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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Draven nick Wright Episode four oh nine,

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Speaker 1: our final episode of twenty twenty five. Twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: has been an unbelievable year for the podcast. We partnered

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Speaker 1: with the volume Demons became a father, we added all

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Speaker 1: these great new sponsors, and we really hope twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six is even better. It is also our second to

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Speaker 1: last show of the year. Did I say it was

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Speaker 1: our last? It's our second last. We have the gambling

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Speaker 1: show coming to you tomorrow. Last week we saw the

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Speaker 1: real perils of doing an NFL gambling show on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Wednesday heading into the weekend. But despite the results, I

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Speaker 1: don't mind the process. This week we are tweaking it

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Speaker 1: a bit as Week eighteen as always tricky, but that

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Speaker 1: is coming your way tomorrow. We hope everyone had a

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Speaker 1: wonderful Crew Smith's wonderful holiday season as we get ready

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Speaker 1: for New Year's to Monse. I was telling you before,

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Speaker 1: I keep having dreams about your daughter. She's about to

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Speaker 1: turn two months old. She'll turn no, two months, she's about.

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Speaker 2: Two months, like almost a week exactly, in.

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Speaker 1: Just over a week, and my subconscious must think that

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Speaker 1: she's way ahead of the developmental curve. Because with them,

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Speaker 1: my dreams involved her walking around and talking to me.

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Speaker 1: So I I mean, well, I assume Listen, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: she's going to be smart, and I'm sure she's gonna

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Speaker 1: be athletic since you and her mom were both college athletes.

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Speaker 1: But I just what, what I am really trying to

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Speaker 1: get to evidently is her turning into a full blown

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Speaker 1: person with a personality, and that's going to take a

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Speaker 1: few months my subconscious to accelerate that process. But we

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Speaker 1: have a ton to do today. We have a loaded

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Speaker 1: show after an insane week seventeen, and this morning one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite things, the NFL Hall of Fame finalists

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Speaker 1: came out, So we will get to all of that,

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Speaker 1: and there's always This show is brought to you by

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Speaker 1: to Voicemail presented by boost Mobile. Yokic left last night

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Speaker 1: with what looked like a scary knee injury. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't want, as they say in the Poker world, ride

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Speaker 1: the broom on this, but it looks like the preliminary

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Speaker 1: reporting is he avoided disaster that they think it might

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Speaker 1: just be a hyper extension with no real damage. That

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Speaker 1: obviously is season changing and more than season changing. When

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the best player in the league who

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Speaker 1: is just days off of a fifty six fifteen and

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Speaker 1: fifteen so and a guy who's never been hurt, a

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Speaker 1: guy who's been incredibly durable. It was shocking to see

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Speaker 1: him go down and it made me think, like, have

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Speaker 1: I ever really seen this guy in pain? And I

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Speaker 1: like where he really looks like something something got hurt

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember it. So ob Be our great producer,

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Speaker 1: Daniel is a diehard Nuggets fan. Uh, he's holding his breath,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like dating everything's gonna be okay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Luca leads NBA All Star fan voting and Bron turns

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Speaker 1: forty one today, which means the numbers are in in

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Speaker 1: his age forty year of basketball and he was twenty five,

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Speaker 1: seven and seven from his fortieth birthday until today. Pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: I understand that some folks would like to make the

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Speaker 1: story of the Lakers, you know, swoon over the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks that they have a Lebron problem. I would argue,

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Speaker 1: if the plan was ever have the guy with seventy

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Speaker 1: thousand minutes in year twenty three who just turned forty

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Speaker 1: one be our primary lockdown defender. That's probably a roster

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Speaker 1: build problem. Speaking of roster build and like rate, subscribe

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Speaker 1: review to our channel would be a wonderful New Year's.

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Speaker 2: Gift for us.

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Speaker 1: Did I I didn't even tell you, guys, I do

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Speaker 1: this very quickly before I get to the football that

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Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you when I was out there,

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Speaker 1: that I talked to Polinka.

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Speaker 2: No, when I was in a game.

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Speaker 1: When I was in the game, that's INSI when we

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Speaker 1: been very critical of Rob Bolinka, some would say mean,

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Speaker 1: and when we were at the game the day after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: I was like Rob, and he turned around and saw

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Speaker 1: over and I was like, hey, man, nice to finally

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Speaker 1: I could have left it at that, but I, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: but so I could have just left the congratulations, but

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Speaker 1: don't think I said you got Luca, but I just

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Speaker 1: I was And that was that. But that was my

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Speaker 1: Rob Polinka interaction. Now there is this small chance that

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Speaker 1: there's our NBA talk for today as this will be

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Speaker 1: demand say do you oh no, that's just a light.

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Speaker 2: I thought you had something in your thought like a

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Speaker 1: No, okay, no, okay, there you go you were, I

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about last night's football game.

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Speaker 2: All right. So Bijon rolled through the rams last night.

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Speaker 2: In the upset, Stafford messed himself up a little bit,

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Speaker 2: dropped to number two in MVP. He's at plus three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Drake May's now at minus four point fifty after his

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Speaker 2: three interceptions. How do you think last night impacts the

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Speaker 1: So I think last night Drake May won the MVP

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Speaker 1: is not because I don't like Drake May. I said

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Speaker 1: just moving forward. That is right now this moment, I

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Speaker 1: a travesty or an outrage. That's not my issue at all.

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Speaker 1: My issue is MVP has slowly started to turn into

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Speaker 1: I don't like that we saw this there have been listen.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, MVP Mahomes was a no brainer. He ran

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Speaker 1: away with it. Twenty nineteen, MVP Lamar was a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: He ran away with it. Twenty twenty it was a

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Speaker 1: That was a two great candidates. You know, Mahomes rested

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Rogers won it fine.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, Rogers and Brady. It was a legitimate argument.

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Speaker 1: There was no question those MVPs were relatively easy. Twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three was the first year I saw this phenomenon happen,

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Speaker 1: which was there wasn't a clear cut favorite throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: and then in December two MVP there were games amongst

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Speaker 1: the MVP candidates, Dak Purty and Lamar. And if I

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Speaker 1: sure Dak Law, I thought, Dak you know, as far

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Speaker 1: the point. Dak played poorly in a December game to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: Party's out, now it's Lamar's MVP. That's that. And we

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Speaker 1: again this is not anti Lamar, I promise because if

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Speaker 1: he had an awesome passer rating, it was fourth in

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Speaker 1: the league. He did not have MVP numbers, but he

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Speaker 1: then last year, Lamar had been the MVP really all

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Speaker 1: year long, but Josh Allen had the moment against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: He had the finishing surge and because of that he

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's been the MVP of the league. If we

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Speaker 1: look at if you take this season, demonte and put

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Speaker 1: the sixteen games each guy is played, and you reorder

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Speaker 1: I think Stafford wins MVP eighty five out of one

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Speaker 1: hundred of those reordered seasons. But because Week seventeen Drake

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Speaker 1: one of his two bad games that he's had all year,

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Speaker 1: it's now going to be betting wise, it's over and

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Speaker 1: conventional wisdom wise, Drake May won the award even though

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Speaker 1: Stafford has thrown for more yards, has thrown for twelve

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Speaker 1: the same number of interceptions. Now Drake Man's a slightly

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Speaker 2: One more game too.

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Speaker 1: No, they played the same number of games.

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Speaker 2: No, And I'm saying, okay, yeah, fair enough. What do

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Speaker 2: you mean? I guess they've they've both played their Week

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Speaker 2: seventeen game. I was gonna say they've got one more game.

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Speaker 2: It's not locked up, But going into the tea yesterday

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Speaker 2: I would have easily given it to Stafford the Pigs.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean they both have a they both they

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Speaker 1: both have a Week eighteen game. By the way, do

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Speaker 1: fix that? I don't know how the hell that happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what. I didn't even touch anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what just happened. That was really weird.

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Speaker 1: I looked like I was glowing for a moment. The

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Speaker 1: bright lights is not a good look for me. I

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Speaker 1: need very just regular warm lighting. No, I I just don't.

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Speaker 1: It feels to me like MVP is slowly moving towards

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Speaker 1: who's hottest at the end of the year, and I

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Speaker 1: don't love that. And I just think Stafford And this

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Speaker 1: is where I do think when it comes to league MVP,

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Speaker 1: it's totally fair to pick nints. I think the fact

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Speaker 1: against a brutal schedule where they have played Houston, phil

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Speaker 1: the Niners, Jacksonville, the Niners, Seattle, Seattle again those seven teams,

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Speaker 1: and I'm that's just me listing the teams they have

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Speaker 1: at the time that we thought were big like Indie Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we now have a half day decade sample

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Speaker 1: Well, so they expanded the season shortly after COVID. They

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Speaker 1: Giants were a couple of years removed from winning the

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00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Giants and Tampa in twenty ten both

434
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: won ten games, neither made the playoffs in the same conference.

435
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: I just think that was a superior UH set up

436
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and it would have made Week eight. It would make

437
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Week eighteen a matt like Bill's Chargers. Texans, you if

438
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: you're the Chargers this week and again, and then I'll

439
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: stop ranting about it. If the Chargers felt like we had,

440
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Like if we're sixteen playoff and the Chargers be like, well,

441
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to beat the Jets, so they're

442
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna get to twelve wins, and the Texans are playing

443
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard and the Colts, they're probably gonna get to

444
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: twelve wins. We're gonna be out of the postseason if

445
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: we don't go to Denver and win. That then makes

446
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Denver have to obvious. Denver's playing for the one seed

447
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: matters to them. The Patriots all of a sudden, they're like,

448
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: holy moly, you know we are alive for the one seed.

449
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: The Jags say, well, if Denver loses were just one,

450
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: you know we can jump up to the two. It's

451
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: just the exclusivity is good. All right, Let's talk about

452
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: that Eagles Bills.

453
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: The Eagles escape Buffalo with a win despite not completing

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: a pass in the second half. The Bills had a

455
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: chance Josh Allen kind of whipped on the two point conversion.

456
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: With the playoffs coming up. Who was this game more

457
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: alarming for.

458
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I think it was more alarming for Philly as far

459
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: as the quality of their team, but it was super

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00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: alarming for Buffalo as far as their path. Now, right,

461
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: had Buffalo won, they're gonna be They're alive for the division.

462
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: But they again would need the Pats to lose to Miami,

463
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: which could happen, but I don't think it's likely, but

464
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: there were the Bills would then be in a position

465
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: beat the Jets were the five seed, we get whatever

466
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: fraudulent team comes out of the AFC North, and we'll

467
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: see if Josh Allen and this Bills team can get

468
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: its first ever road playoff victory. Now they're in a

469
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: spot where Round one demons they are playing either in

470
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: New England or in Jacksonville on the road. The entirety

471
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: of the playoffs and their path just got so much harder.

472
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: And the other thing on the Bills that I will

473
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: say is this because we just have the fare is fair.

474
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: And you guys know how highly I've talked of Josh

475
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Allen this year early the last couple of years. He's

476
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: got to be better. In that game, I thought the

477
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: fumble was a bad call, but you can't stand there

478
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: and argue about it rather than chase after the fumble.

479
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: That's the first point. You got your offensive lineman running

480
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: thirty yards downfield. You're standing there yelling at the rev.

481
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: That's the first one. The taking the twenty yard sack,

482
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: knocking you out of field goal range when that field

483
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: goal would have mattered. That was bad. And he just

484
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: missed the game winning play. It was open, It was

485
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: not that hard of a pass. He just missed it,

486
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: and that game mattered for them. And so you guys,

487
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: I've talked a lot, so I don't have to do

488
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: too much more on it. How much pressure I think

489
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: is on the Bills this year. We have We have

490
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: not talked about McDermott or Allen in these in like this,

491
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: because the Ravens have been struggling, The Chiefs are out,

492
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: the Bengals are are out. But man if demonds, the

493
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: Bills end up with the sixth seed, which that's what

494
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: it looks like they're going to be, and they go

495
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and lose. Man I wonder or if Sean

496
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: McDermott survives that like we the we haven't if they

497
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: go one and done by losing to the Jags. Even

498
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: though I think the Jacks are really good, it feels

499
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: like it when the all the other veteran excellent quarterbacks

500
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: the field is, you know, are removed from the field.

501
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Then you this had this has to be the Bill's moment. Now,

502
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: I did think their defense was excellent, and the defense

503
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: has been the question mark about the team on Philly.

504
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what people want me to say. I

505
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: they had negative passing yards and a half. Demon's for

506
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: the third time this season, so they have played two

507
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: halts teams. Literally, No, they're the only one. You played

508
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: thirty two halves of football. Three of them you had

509
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: negative yards passing one in ten. That's insane the end.

510
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: No, it's just really weird.

511
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: He Yeah, and then you got Sirianni yelling at the

512
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: Bills fans in the tunnel. AJ Brown's clearly annoyed by him.

513
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: It's I understand they win, and I I feel like

514
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: winning in Buffalo, which has been happen It's happened twice

515
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: in the last two years that a team's gone to

516
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo and win should be like an unimpeachable type of victory.

517
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: But that wasn't unimpeachable. They're up thirteen to nothing and

518
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: then game seventeen second half yards as a team and

519
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: negative yards passing, And so I we'll see how everything

520
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: falls seating wise, because they could be the two or

521
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: the three. And if they're the two, they get the Packers,

522
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: but if they're the three demons, they get either the

523
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Rams or the Niners.

524
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

525
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Like either of those teams to go to Philadelphia and win.

526
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: I understand the weather could be a factor, and but

527
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: I just feel like those teams have been so much

528
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: more consistent throughout the year and they don't go through

529
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: these just inexplicable, indefensible droughts. And and listen, aj Brown

530
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: was not wrong. His delivery might have been wrong the

531
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: way he did it, all of that, but his concerns

532
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: were correct. This the offense has been an issue all

533
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: year long, and Saquon can't save them. So I I

534
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know how you know. On one hand, they're the

535
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: first defending NFC's champion to win it again in more

536
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: than twenty years to the defending Super Bowl champion. They

537
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: just went to Buffalo and one. On the other hand,

538
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: we just watched that game, and man, that offense goes

539
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: through droughts the likes of which no other even average

540
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: team does. All right, let's talk Niners Bears.

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Speaker 2: Uh party, He's peaking three hundred yards, three touchdowns without

542
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: all his guys. He had five touchdowns in the game

543
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: before you were gonna end the party debate after back

544
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: Jones came in earlier in the season bought out, you know,

545
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: assistant quarterback stuff. How close are we to reopening that conversation?

546
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: I got to save Brock parties looked amazing, He's looked great.

547
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: There is there is no argument. I mean, he's at

548
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: back to back five touchdown because he had three touchdowns

549
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: through the air in two. He's running, He's been awesome.

550
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I it is maddening to me that we are somehow,

551
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm just in an endless loop of me making statements

552
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: that seem unprovable about the Niners quarterback situation. They then

553
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: get proven and folks still saying I'm wrong like that

554
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that Which is this the Jimmy the original statement, Jimmy Garoppolo,

555
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: don't care that he wins. He's not very good. Oh

556
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: but look at how he wins that he they went

557
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl with him. My statement, I think

558
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: if you dropped any starting caliber quarterback in his spot

559
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: with that team, they would perform at that level.

560
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: You think in the last two games would have like, okay, ahead.

561
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: Just hold on. Just They then put literally the last

562
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: pick of the draft in Jimmy Garoppolo's spot. He performs

563
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: at an even higher level. They go back to a

564
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl and people are like, see, Nick, you were wrong,

565
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: Like wait, what didn't we just saw it? Then brock

566
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Purty has this run prior to this season. They go

567
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, we were like, give him more credit, Nick,

568
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I listen, he's he was underdrafted. He's clearly

569
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: a starting caliber quarterback. He might even be good, But

570
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: I think most of the credit should go to the

571
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: Avengers on the team. They're like, well, what do you want?

572
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: You want to see him do it without those guys.

573
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, he probably won't ever have to, but yeah,

574
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: if he did it without those guys, they didn't have

575
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: a season where all those guys are hurt. The team

576
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: goes in the tank and I'm like, see the thing

577
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: that we didn't think we'd be able, this is the

578
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: second time the thing we didn't think we'd be able

579
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: to test we tested, And I was right, We're like, no,

580
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: it's not fair. This year comes out, he's out for

581
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: two months, a guy that everyone agrees is not a

582
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: good quarterback, Mac Jones steps in, looks awesome, the team wins.

583
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, another test, and then Bertie comes back

584
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: is better than that guy? And we were like, see, Nick,

585
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. I don't know what people want me

586
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: to say here. Now. Do I think mac Jones is

587
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: as good as brock Purty? Obviously not. Do I think

588
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: mac Jones could have done what brock Purty did the

589
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: last two weeks? No? Do I think brock Purty is

590
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: proving himself to be a pretty good NFL quarterback? And

591
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: does that surprise me? Yes, all of those things. But

592
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: all the folks arguing with me two months ago when

593
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: I said, see this is why I wouldn't have necessarily

594
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: paid Purty fifty three million. We can get that level

595
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: of production from mac Jones, we're quietly agreeing with me,

596
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: which is why they stopped arguing with me. And now

597
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: he's on this heater, and certainly if he's playing at

598
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: this level, he's worth fifty million dollars. I don't think

599
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: this level is sustainable. But he's been great. But my

600
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: biggest thing is and I know people, and I've done

601
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: it to myself, so I'm not whining. Look at me

602
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: as a party hater. But the other way to look

603
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: at it is I just want the right people to

604
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: get credit. And the story of this Niner season is

605
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: not a Rock Purty story. He has played half the games.

606
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: The story of this Niner season is about two people

607
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: more than anybody, Kyle Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey who

608
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: has been available and used like a pack mule all

609
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: year and Shanahan, who has been in his bag to

610
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: even by his standards, an insane degree. That's the story

611
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: of the Niner season. Now, the story of the last

612
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: two weeks, Isy has been utterly brilliant, and I give

613
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: him credit, but I don't. I can't. I feel like

614
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm in a time loop on the Niners quarterback arguments,

615
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: and I keep throwing out their things that I believe,

616
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: but I'll never be able to prove. And then somehow

617
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: we get real life samples of it. Replace Jimmy Garoppolo

618
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: with mister irrelevant. See what Purty looks like without his

619
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: star players? See it? What if you dropped mac Jones

620
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: in the Niners offense what it would look like, and

621
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: every single time it looks exactly like I say it would.

622
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: And then people are like, Nick, You're still wrong. I

623
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna lose my mind, all right, Go ahead

624
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: with some follow ups.

625
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: You think that Shanahan should win Coach of the Year

626
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: at plus one point fifty at number two and Cee

627
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: mc at Offensive Player of the Year at plus two

628
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: seventy five. They're both numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's number one for both of those? Because those

630
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: would be my picks. I think Shanahan's been coach of

631
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: the year. Oh, you know, Christian McCaffrey should win often

632
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: to play the year over js N as good as

633
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: jays N's Christian McCaffrey is are the most important non

634
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league this year and rave Will's favorite

635
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: for the other one. No, I would give it to

636
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey.

637
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: The Niners they're playing for the one seed on Saturday.

638
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: How alive for a real run at the title? Do

639
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 2: you think they are? And do you think this should

640
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: have been a Sunday night football game?

641
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm fine with the winning you're in game,

642
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: being Sunday Night football. They want Raven Steelers, Rogers, Lamar.

643
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: It's fine, and it might not be Lamar.

644
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna's I mean, yeah, we'll get

645
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: to that.

646
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: We'll get to the Lamar stuff. All Nick's a hater.

647
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: Nick doesn't know what he's saying about Nicks making things up.

648
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: Uh I told you so, guys. But let's stay here

649
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: for a minute.

650
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: Uhud, he's hurt. The Okay, we'll get to it. Well,

651
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 1: we'll we'll get to the Lamar stuff. The I don't

652
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: think the Niners defense should be good enough to win

653
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but with the way the offense is playing,

654
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: and the with the way the offense is playing, and

655
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: if they win on Saturday, getting the buye and having

656
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: all the games come through Santa Clara, obviously they've got

657
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: a great shot at it. I'm shocked by that. And

658
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: that speaks what I was saying about Shanahan and McCaffrey

659
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: and how will party has been playing. All right, let's

660
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: talk Bears just for a second.

661
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: After it Bears, after Atlanta defeated the Seat after no, oh, yeah,

662
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was like, what on the Bear side

663
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: Caleb had a shot to win at the end, but

664
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: he came up short. Is this a team that you

665
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: feel comfortable with bed money onto.

666
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: The playof listen. I think there's been a great year

667
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: for Chicago, and I think that if they win against

668
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Detroit and get the two seed, I think they'll beat

669
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: the Packers in round two. In round one, their defense

670
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: has just as many questions as the Niners. And while

671
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: Caleb I think was awesome in that game, I don't.

672
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: I think they're probably a year away from real contention now.

673
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they can't do it, but it would

674
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: surprise me. And so if they now, if they fall

675
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: to the three and they have to play one of

676
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: those NFC either the Niners again, obviously they can win

677
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: that game, but that would be tough, or the Rams,

678
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd like them. I certainly wouldn't pick

679
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: them against the Rams, and I might not pick them

680
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: against the Niners. But this is a great year for

681
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: Chicago no matter what. The NFC playoff field, just the

682
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: three NFC West teams, Chicago and Philly, it's a tough field,

683
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: all right. Now we can do NFC South.

684
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, after Atlanta, of setting the Rams. The Panthers

685
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: Bucks race a little bit more complicated. If the Falcons

686
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: win next week this against the Saints, Tampa Bay will

687
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 2: be out. So it's totally possible that your two Super

688
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: Bowl picks don't make it to the playoffs.

689
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. So the Falcons winning was a big

690
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: problem for Tampa because it's no longer as you explained,

691
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: a winning your end situation for Tampa against Carolina, because

692
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: now it's weird because the Falcons can't win the division,

693
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: but they can get to eight and nine, which is

694
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: because the Bucks just keep losing awful games. That's where

695
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: the Bucks would finish if they beat Carolina, and if

696
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: it if it's a two way tie between Tampa and Carolina,

697
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: Tampa gets it. If it's a three way tie, Carolina

698
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: gets it. So here's the What the Bucks have done

699
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: since the start of the year is unacceptable on so

700
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: many levels. Since starting five and one, they have two

701
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: victories a good win in New Orleans to get to

702
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: six and two. So I really should say that since

703
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: starting six and two and then a skin of their

704
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: teeth win against a terrible Cardinals team while losing to

705
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots, getting blown out by the Bills getting blown

706
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: out by the Rams, a bad loss at home to

707
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: the Saints, giving a game away to the Falcons, a

708
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: terrible loss to the Panthers where Baker threw a pick

709
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: at the end, and a lost to quinn Ewers and

710
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It is unforgivable for Tampa to need help,

711
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: to need to win and get help to make the playoffs.

712
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: Now I think that their upside is higher than Carolina's.

713
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: Who again, I don't know how many people are actually

714
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: watching the Panthers on a week to week basis. But

715
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: Bryce just had one of the worst games of the

716
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: NFL season this year. Twenty four pass attempts for fifty

717
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: four yards two point three yards per attempt, zero touchdowns,

718
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: one pick, and he's had a few. I mean, that

719
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: was his worst game, his worst game of the year,

720
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: but he's had a number of rough ones. But neither

721
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: of those teams, Carolina deserves it more, to be honest,

722
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: The only team in that division that's playing like it

723
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: wants to me in the playoffs is the damn Saints.

724
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: But even Tyler shucked. But they just started, uh, they

725
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: started too far behind, all right. Let's talk AFC North.

726
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: Demanse Pittsburgh had their chance to wrap upon the division

727
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: against the Browns this weekend. They failed. The Ravens won

728
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: without Lamar Tyler Huntley. I like what he was doing

729
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: out there, Derek Henry, just run the ball. Now. The

730
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: FC North title is up for grabs on Sunday with

731
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: his Ravens showdown against Pittsburgh.

732
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen. Pittsburgh's loss on Sunday was one of the

733
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: most unacceptable performances of the NFL season. By the way,

734
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: Joker hyper extension in his left knee will miss at

735
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: least four weeks. Not bad, but what it does do

736
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: to Monsey, it probably eliminates him from being able to

737
00:53:53,040 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: be MVP because the six games. Yeah, so, and they're

738
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they were already down three starters. So this

739
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: has I mean we're about to see right, I mean,

740
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna right, they'll be they'll be fine for the playoffs,

741
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: but not fine for seating. And this has massive implications.

742
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: But that you do have a sigh of relief that

743
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: he's okay, you know, miss a month maybe more. Uh

744
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: My guess is maybe they hold him out through All

745
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: Star that'd be like a month and a half, and

746
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, then he comes back. But that is and

747
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: but it does probably eliminate him from being eligible for

748
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: the MVP, which sucks because he's been playing so great.

749
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Helps share a lot in his ability to win a VP,

750
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: keeps Lucas Sneaky alive for m VP. It opens up

751
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: for a lot of people all right back to this, Rogers'

752
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: performance on Sunday was unforgivable. I don't know if he

753
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: was just trying to avoid Miles Garrett to bee. It

754
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: was so bad. And and his decision on fourth and

755
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: one to throw a deep fade to Scottie Miller, his

756
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: decision on the final drive to only target NBS. He

757
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: was awful, and they brought him in for that moment.

758
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: And if the Steelers had won that game, they're in

759
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: really good shape Demons. If they win that game, they

760
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: are locked into the four seed. They can rest. In

761
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: Week eighteen. They get a home game against either Texans,

762
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: Chargers Bills, who will have just come off games that

763
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: they well, no, it wouldn't be the Chargers, but the

764
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: Texans are Bills, and again not an easy game, but

765
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: teams that would have just had to go theoretically, well,

766
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if those teams are gonna go all out.

767
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: In Week eighteen.

768
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who Bills probably aren't, but regardless, a

769
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: home game and rest instead, you have to win a

770
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: playoff game to make the playoffs. And I just thought

771
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: Rogers was awful, just really really awful. I I believed

772
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh this weekend because I thought Shador would make

773
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: a few just egregious mistakes. He did, and they couldn't

774
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: take advantage of any of them. It was pathetic, and

775
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that to that be a game that you know, it

776
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: was as if they thought Baltimore was gonna lose the

777
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: night before, so that game wasn't gonna matter. But Baltimore

778
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: won the night before. You knew that game mattered, and

779
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: you knew if you want it, you won the division.

780
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't score six points. And I

781
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: know the Browns have a good pass defense, They've been

782
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: allowing twenty seven points a game in the last month.

783
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: Like that's just so it's as bad of a loss

784
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: as it gets. And now we get to Baltimore. Derrick

785
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: Henry was unbelievable. Snooputley did his thing, but Derrick Henry

786
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: was great. And Derrick Henry, by the way, since he's

787
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: been a raven leads the NFL and rushing yards leads

788
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: the NFL and yards rushing yards per game, leads the

789
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: NFL and rushing touchdowns, and is second in the NFL

790
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: in rushes. He has gotten his fair share of touches.

791
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. But the story in Baltimore is Lamar

792
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: and Demon's you can get mad at me here. I

793
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: am just going, like, so, there was that article in

794
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Sun that was a torched Lamar yep by

795
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: a guy who has written at the Baltimore Sun since

796
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, Okay, a forty two year writer in

797
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore local columnists. Now, it doesn't mean that he doesn't

798
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: play favorites. It doesn't mean that everything's saying is fair.

799
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what I'm saying, but right, and I

800
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: have been trying to tell you guys all year that

801
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: something is off with Lamar and Harbaugh and I'm not

802
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: just guessing. And what we are now seeing is a

803
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: situation where for the third time there have been Like

804
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: I want to be fair here, but I think the

805
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: fairest way to put it is to just give you

806
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: the timeline on it in real time, and I will

807
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: read you exact quotes because people get very mad at me.

808
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know what you want me to say. Okay.

809
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, which was the first year that

810
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was playing for the Ravens, in the midst

811
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: of wanting and deserving a contract extension that the Ravens

812
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: were unwilling at that time to give him. And you

813
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: add to the context, Lamar does not have an agent.

814
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: And I know everyone says, well, his mom does it

815
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: for him, which is fine. However, this is an important detail.

816
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Lamar's mother is not a certified nfl PA agent. Here's

817
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: the only reason that matters. It means the team is

818
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk to her. Okay. They she can

819
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: handle stuff for Lamar once he gets it, but the

820
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: team can only talk to Lamar. And that has been

821
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: weird up to an including that we found out through

822
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: court filings over the summer that when they were trying

823
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: to negotiate a contract with him the summer, he asked

824
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: for the trade demons is in the court filings. He

825
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: said the microphone on his phone wasn't working and because

826
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: of that they couldn't talk. So like it's been the weird.

827
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: It's a weird contract negotiations situation. And as someone as

828
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: someone who uh has you know, done negotiations. One of

829
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: the reason you have an agent is you go to

830
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: you want to make you know, one hundred million dollars

831
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: from the place you're working. The place wants to pay

832
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: you eighty million dollars. They are going to explain to

833
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: you why you're actually not worth what you think you're worth.

834
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: You're worthless. That can hurt feelings. It's like, well, actually

835
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: you're not good at this or is good at that.

836
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: So the agent does the negotiation, keeps the relationship between

837
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: both sides, you know, happy where you don't have to

838
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: say nasty things to each other. Yeah, you don't have

839
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: an agent, it makes it a little tricky. Again, it

840
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to have an agent. I'm just

841
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: giving you, guys the skin the context of it, additional

842
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: context that is not lost on me. What was the

843
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: big one of the big stories of this Ravens season

844
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: that they removed all those video games and toys from

845
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: the locker room And what was one of the kind

846
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: of weird huh pieces from that column for Mike Preston

847
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: that they think Lamar stays up all night doing what

848
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: playing video games? So there was a lot of not

849
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: so subtle what's. And the other thing in that story

850
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: was Lamar wants a new contract. Ye, he's the back

851
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: to back defending first team All Pro quarterback. He's won

852
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: an MVP since his last contract. A bunch of quarterbacks

853
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: have passed him in the pay scale. Seems reasonable. Also,

854
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens right now, he's got a cap hit of

855
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: seventy five million each of the next two years, so

856
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: they certainly want to rework his contract. He wants to

857
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: extend his contract. So I give all of that context

858
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: while trying to be fair, and then I remind you

859
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: guys of this in twenty twenty one, when the Ravens

860
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: were in the midst of trying to make the playoffs

861
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: and Lamar wanted and deserved, by the way, a second contract.

862
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: He hurt his ankle in Week fourteen. John Harbaugh said,

863
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: going into Week fifteen, I'd say he has a chance

864
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: to play Week fifteen. It's one of those things where

865
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: it's an ankle sprain. If he starts feeling good and

866
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: everything is all right, we'll check him out probably pregame.

867
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: He's in all the preparations. We'll see where we're at

868
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: week fifteen. He did not play again that season and

869
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens missed the playoffs. After the year, John Harball

870
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: was asked about why Lamar didn't play. He said, quote,

871
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: Lamar felt like he was going to be back. The

872
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: first week, he thought he had a chance. The second

873
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: week he assured me, he said, I'll be back. I'll

874
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: be back. So in twenty twenty one, Lamar got hurt.

875
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, the team thought he

876
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: would be back. He was not back. He was in

877
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: the midst of a contract negotiation. He did not get

878
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: the contract in twenty twenty two. Lamar Jackson obviously deserved

879
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: a new contract, they had not given him one. He

880
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: got hurt on December fourth, in a game that removed

881
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: from the game. John Harbaughs said, it's not a season

882
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: ending type of knee. We'll get more tests tomorrow and

883
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: let you know how long it's going to be. We'll

884
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: see if he can be back this week. If not,

885
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: he'll be back sometime after that. Shortly, he did not

886
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: play again that season. They did make the playoffs. Everyone

887
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: thought he would be back for the playoff game. He

888
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: did not play in the playoff game, and then he

889
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: tweeted after the season that it was a grade two

890
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: PCL sprain bordering on grade three, which was not what

891
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: Harbaud said Schefter had said any of it. So in

892
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, he suffered an ankle injury. The coach

893
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: thought he'd be back. He never came back. He was

894
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: in the midst of a contract negotiation. In twenty twenty two,

895
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: he suffered a knee injury. The coach thought he would

896
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: be back. Schefter said he'd be back, and I'm not

897
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: picking on Schefter here, just like meaning the team was

898
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: telling him he'll be back. He did not come back,

899
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: and he missed the playoff game. In twenty twenty five,

900
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson evidently has been in a contract negotiation. He

901
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: suffered a hamstring injury against the Chiefs. He missed time,

902
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: the team did not play well. When asked about why

903
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: the team would be better after the bye, John Harbaugh said,

904
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: our quarterback is going to be back. That's a big one.

905
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: Lamar then was not back after the bye. And if

906
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: you remember, there was the issue with I'm trying to

907
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: remember what game that was before the weird what was

908
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: the weird game this year. Oh that was after the

909
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. That's what it was. After the bye when

910
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: he had when they had to change the practice designation, remember,

911
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: and they got in trouble for it. It was like, oh,

912
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: that the about whether Lamar was a full practice or

913
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: not a full practice. And now Lamar Jackson suffered what

914
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: his coach called a back bruise in Week sixteen while

915
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: in a contract negotiation with the team and missed a

916
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: must win Week seventeen game, and we don't know if

917
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: he is playing in Week eighteen. That's the timeline of it.

918
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: Folks can draw whatever conclusions they want, and folks can

919
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: act like I'm just being a ship stir for no reason.

920
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: But I feel like I can say with full confidence

921
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: that the Lamar Jackson John Harbaugh partnership is ending and

922
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: it is very likely that Lamar has played his last

923
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: game with the Ravens as with John Harbaugh being the coach.

924
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: Let me say that better because I do not think

925
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna move on from Lamar. But I

926
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: don't know that I believe Lamar is gonna play again

927
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: this season, and I don't think there is any realistic chance.

928
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is the coach next season. And here's the

929
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: last thing I'll say on it. And this is supposed

930
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: to be a quick show, but they never are. And

931
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: we still have a bunch more stuff today. We might

932
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: not get to all of it. Demands there's to me.

933
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: Tell me if you think this is fair. There are

934
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: two ways to look at this, because Lamar does want

935
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: a new contract.

936
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. The either.

937
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: Lamar has suffered, by my count, hamstring, knee, ankle, toe, back,

938
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: five different injuries this year that were legitimately severe enough

939
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: that two of which he missed games and three of

940
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: which he missed practices. That a guy who turns twenty

941
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: nine next week. It's a running quarterback who doesn't run

942
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: as much anymore and is coming off his worst year,

943
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: suffered five separate from semi significant to truly significant injuries

944
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: and wants a new, big, guaranteed contract. That is one option.

945
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: Another option is that these injuries are not quite so significant,

946
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: but because he is in contract negotiation, he is leveraging

947
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: his injury status. I don't see, And if the producers do,

948
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: or you do, or anybody a third door to walk through,

949
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it is a or B. And my response

950
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: to that is if it's just a or B. Is

951
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: that a player that you are comfortable giving a top

952
01:10:55,040 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: of market guaranteed contract to either a guy who who

953
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: is not playing in do word eye games as contract leverage,

954
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: which is a real indictment that I am not levying,

955
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: or a guy who suffered five different injuries this year

956
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: that made him miss valuable time. Either way, that's a

957
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: risky investment. And that's where I stand. People can say

958
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm unfair. I know I'm not wrong, and I know

959
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: that's your guy demandsay, and I apologize for putting you

960
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: in this spot.

961
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, the time I believe, like a year after

962
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,520
Speaker 2: year December of the contract negotiations, I'm gonna sit out,

963
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean, and then even just seeing the play where

964
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: it is where like his back got hurt, it was

965
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: fast he ran into it.

966
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: And seeing hardballs make it clear on Monday this past

967
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: week ago, it's a bruce.

968
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: It's a bad bruise, but it's a bruce. It would

969
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: be unfortunate if he was just I also like go

970
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: ahead like leveraging his injury, especially at this time of

971
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: the season. But I will say that if he does

972
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: end up playing next week, win or lose, I think

973
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: that's huge. I just I hope, I hope he plays.

974
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: But I but so they're also in a weird spot.

975
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: If he doesn't play and they lose, that's obviously awful.

976
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: If he doesn't play and they win, Man talk about

977
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: pressure on him to finally perform in the playoffs. If

978
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, if Derrick Henry's rolling and Huntley plays, fine,

979
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: there's just just a lot there. And I know Marcus

980
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: Spears and a lot of people I really like don't

981
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: like any of this Lamar commentary. I get it, and

982
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: they think some of it's unfair. I just something's been

983
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: weird with Lamar and Harbaugh and the Ravens all year.

984
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: Mike Preston shined a bit of a light on it,

985
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: and to me, it's pretty obvious where this thing's going.

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Speaker 1: all right, Before we get to our quick hitters, demanse uh,

997
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: let's do the Pro Football Hall of Fame here.

998
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: The NFL announced its finalists for the Hall of Fame

999
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 2: class at twenty twenty six. We talked, as we do

1000
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: every year, about it, and you gave out your finalists.

1001
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: The final the semifinalist were announced. Let's take a look

1002
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: at how you did with your.

1003
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: All right, so the here are the finalists, Drew Brees,

1004
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Willie Anderson, Luke, Keithley, Terrell Suggs, Jarry Evans,

1005
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: Tory Halt, Eli Manning, Adam and and Terry, Reggie, Wayne,

1006
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson, Marshall Yonda, and so I. The other finalists

1007
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: are Frank Gore, Jason Witten and Kevin Williams. I did

1008
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: not think Gore and Witten or Kevin Williams would be finalists.

1009
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 1: They were, but otherwise this went about from the semifinalist

1010
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: to finalists went about how I said I anticipated it.

1011
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: I believe this will be the Hall of Fame class

1012
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. I said this on the other show.

1013
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: I've thought more about it. I believe Breeze and Fitzgerald

1014
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: are no doubt first ballot guys. I think that they

1015
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,440
Speaker 1: are going to have too hard of a time debating

1016
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: between Keighley and Suggs. Keighley higher peak, Suggs such a longer,

1017
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,879
Speaker 1: more decorated career. Both similar as far as A plus honors,

1018
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: So I think they put them both in, and then

1019
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: I think they put in one offensive lineman, and you

1020
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: could make the case for Willie Anderson, Jarr Evans, Ri Yanda.

1021
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: I think they will end up going with the person

1022
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: who's been waiting the longest, in Willie Anderson. So I

1023
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: think the Hall of Fame class is gonna be Breeze, fits,

1024
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,440
Speaker 1: Sugs and Keighley along with one offensive lineman Willie Anderson.

1025
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: Eli Manning's gonna have to keep waiting, uh Mark, you know,

1026
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: maybe Evans or Yond to get in. I bet one

1027
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman get in, and I don't see

1028
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: any chance Frank Gore Jason Witten have to get in

1029
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: first ballot, all right, let's do uh the other games quickly.

1030
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: The Jags beat the Colts. It was the first not

1031
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: great Jags game in a while, not great Trevor game,

1032
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: but unlike previous years where they have these not great games,

1033
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: they won it. Anyway. They are still alive for the

1034
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: one seed, but they would need Denver to lose to

1035
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers backups and the Patriots to lose uh to Miami,

1036
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: so they are probably going to be the three seed.

1037
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: I would I was really hoping we would get charge

1038
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: Jags Chargers in round one. It looks like we're probably

1039
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: gonna get Bill's Bill's Jags in round one, which is

1040
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: a bit of a bummer, but is what it is.

1041
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the Commanders in a meaningless game to all parties.

1042
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: Vikings beat the Lions in justin Jared Goff disaster class

1043
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: on Christmas, just as bad as it gets as the

1044
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: Lions season from hell continues. Broncos beat the Chiefs in

1045
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: one of the worst performances in a win a team

1046
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: has had all year long. The Texans beat the Chargers

1047
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: in a game that neither quarterback played well, and if

1048
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: you're the Chargers, you're a little anxious after that performance.

1049
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: Going into the playoffs. Patriots beat the Jets. We talked

1050
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: about it earlier in a game that might have won.

1051
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: Drake made the MVP. Saints beat the Titans as Tyler

1052
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: Shuck keeps rolling, He's played well, Bro, Bengals beat the Cardinals,

1053
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: show Burrow having fun again, and Giants beat the Raiders

1054
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: in a game literally nobody watched. All right, like great?

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