1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Let's start tier. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: We are expecting Shane Bieber to join us at any moment. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays game three three. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Yes, he started it three and seven in the LCS 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: are not going to change it. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: I would think so too, but they haven't officially announced 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: that yet. Maybe he'll give us the official announcement when 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: we talked to him. Before we get to him, I 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: did have this saved. You asked me yesterday about ratings. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: We got them for Fox. ALCS Game seven averaged over 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: nine million viewers. 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: And that's just in the US though. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: In the US that's part of this, and peaked at 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: twelve point three ish. It was the most watched ALCS 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: game on any network since twenty seventeen, which was ALCS 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Game seven. Yankees astras, Yep, we hear about that one 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: all the time. 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Tod with Todd Father Kratz. Tod Father brings that one 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: up all the time. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: Right. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, still thinks they were banging trash cans in 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: the game, but we had nineteen mound visits to change 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 5: our signs every single time, so I don't Yankee fans. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: They weren't banging trash cans during that game. It's not 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 5: like every every pitch occurrence type of thing. 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: That one was in New York or in Houston. 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: That game seven in Houston, we had a three to 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 5: two lead going to Houston, lost Game six and then 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 5: lost Game seven. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: That's when Lance mccullors threw. 31 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: A couple of curve balls in a row exactly. 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: Game six was a blowout, right. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I remember. 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: In Game seven was the super tight one that they 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: you guys lost at the end as we got other 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: things to worry about. We don't care. That's past. We're 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: talking about it with. 38 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Actually, pitch is ready to go. Let's bring him in. 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Blue Jay Starter Shane Bieber is here, looking nice and 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: crisp from his phone. Does he have to move it 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: horizontal to everybody? I'm asking real quick so that we 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: know once we can start here, let me know fast. 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: I think I did all right? 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Yep? Did it looks great? How you doing? 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: Man? 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: All right? 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: Thanks? Yeah, sorry, you're gonna have to bear with me here. 48 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm doing. I'm doing well, guys. Thanks for having me on. 49 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 6: By the way, is it beanie weather in Toronto? You 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 6: have a full Beanie? It's not that cold. 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're it's climate control. 53 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 7: We're we're indoors here, but you didn't want to see 54 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 7: this mop that's under here, so I had to throw 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 7: something on. And we're going straight to some some media 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 7: duties after this. 57 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: So wrap the brand. How is the celebration after game seven? 58 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: It looked like a nightclub? 59 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was long. 60 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 7: It was well deserved. You know those eight pm game starts, Uh, 61 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 7: go go deep into the night, right, But it's a 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 7: it's a great privilege to be able to celebrate late 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 7: and to enjoy what was a huge win with with 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 7: these guys. 65 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 6: By the way, Shane, I mean, I know, it's just 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 6: like where Scott would hang out normally on a Tuesday night, 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 6: like you guys were doing that Monday night. But was 68 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 6: mad Max like the all time greatest because they showed 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 6: him at one point he was standing I don't know 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 6: what he was throwing beer on everybody like on the stage? 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: Was he the DJ? Was he having the most fun? 72 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: Who had the most and what? By the way, I 73 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: know you guys are all. 74 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 6: Sexy as hell with your shirts off, but why is 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: everyone wearing no shirt? Can we get Gossman and Hoffman 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: and some of these guys to put shirts on. 77 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 7: I know I've been trying. I've been trying this whole run, 78 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 7: but it keeps working. So who am I to tell 79 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: him what to do? In regards to Max, I don't 80 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 7: even think he knows what he's doing. He's just enjoying it, man, 81 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 7: And like he sets the standard. He works his tail 82 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 7: off right, he goes and competes like nobody, nobody else, 83 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 7: and then he enjoys it like nobody else too, And 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 7: that's what we're all trying to do and fall in line. 85 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: And man, what a pleasure it's been to be able 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: to play with him. 87 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: Did that celebration? 88 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: Has that been? 89 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: Like, that's not been like since day one, since you've 90 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: been there, it's kind of like grown right, like mores 91 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: more fog machines Or is that like your first day 92 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: when you got there in your first big league rehab 93 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: assignment that that you went on. 94 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Is that what they were? 95 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: Rocks? 96 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 7: So yeah, so yeah, they redid the clubhouse like a 97 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 7: year and a half, two years ago, I think, And like, yeah, 98 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 7: I got here a couple of months ago and this 99 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 7: place is purled out. It's it's pretty incredible the way 100 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 7: they take care of you know, all just every amenity 101 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 7: is anything you can think of is handled. And I 102 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 7: think it was going into Game one sixty two, obviously 103 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 7: we're fighting for the Al East, and they were setting 104 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 7: something up in the hallways outside the clubhouse. They were 105 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 7: setting up like strobe lights and all that. I said, what, 106 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 7: what what's this all about. They're like, oh, that's for 107 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 7: you know, when we win the postgame celebration. I said, 108 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 7: we're not gonna We're not going to celebrate in this 109 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 7: fantastic clubhouse of ours. I would love to. I would 110 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 7: love to mess things up in here. And they said, no, no, 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 7: it's too nice. We'll do the hallway. I said, okay, well, 112 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 7: when we win the World Series, you got to promise 113 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 7: we can. We can do it in this clubhouse and 114 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 7: and really mess some mess some stuff up. 115 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: So we'll see if they keep their promises. 116 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: That's a big hallway. By the way, that was a 117 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 6: big hallway. It looks like a rave hole. I mean 118 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 6: that's a massive hallway, which is. 119 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: All yeah, which is aw all right. 120 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: They do it right here, that's for sure. 121 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: They've changed the clubhouse because they used it used to 122 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 6: not be nice, so they've redone the whole. They've done 123 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: both sides, and it's way better than what it used 124 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: to be, as you know. All right, so we got 125 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 6: to go back to Game seven. You started Game seven. 126 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 6: First of all, in the first inning, your ex teammate 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 6: Josh Naylor jumps in front of a double playball. What 128 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: did you say to him when he did because you 129 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 6: said something to him, but you didn't really read your looks. 130 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no you couldn't. I thought it was pretty obvious. 131 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, something like what the effort you doing? Or it 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: was kind of. 133 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 7: Like that, you know, that's the heat of the moment comment, right, like, 134 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 7: you know, he already had a base base RBI base 135 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 7: hit and it was a tailor made double play to 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 7: get out of that first inning. And credit to Josh Man, 137 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 7: I know he'll do anything he can to win. 138 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: Love his game. He had a fantastic year this year. 139 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 7: So we exchanged some text messages after and it's all good. 140 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you can you can. 141 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 7: Read, uh read my lips, and you know, thankfully they 142 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 7: they made the right call and we got out. 143 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: Of the inning. 144 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 6: Okay, So not only did you yell at Nailor, but 145 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 6: when you got taken out of the game, you kind 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 6: of were yelling at the umpire, were you trying to 147 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 6: get ejected as you got taken out of the game, 148 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 6: or were you just walking that fine line between just 149 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 6: saying things and not getting ejected. 150 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know something about that, don't you. 151 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: I've been ejected a time or ten, so yes, I. 152 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: Know it worked, Yes, so exactly. 153 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it turns out, I mean, the TV zones different 154 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 7: than the umpires on, so we'll see. 155 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 5: But I went back and. 156 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: Looked and like home, those are both falls. So that's 157 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: not a great not a great look. 158 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 7: But you know whatever, I think, like I said, is 159 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 7: game seven just trying to leave it all out there. 160 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: And obviously didn't want to you know, I wanted to 161 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: finish the inning and didn't want to end it on 162 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: a on a walk. 163 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 7: But at the same time I knew, you know, Louis Varlin, 164 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 7: our fire extinguisher, was coming into the ball game, and 165 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 7: you know he was able to get the job done 166 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 7: and and ultimately, in a game seven, you're just looking 167 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 7: to give everything you have out there and then pass 168 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 7: the time and with the offense that we have, keep 169 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 7: it as close as possible, and you know we're gonna 170 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 7: get our opportunities to do some damage and go figure 171 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 7: we did just that, all. 172 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: Right, So players in the dugout kind of know how 173 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: the game is gonna go. You're surprised by certain moments. 174 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: Take us to the springer. The springer and not bringing 175 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: munos in in that in that situation, were you guys 176 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: sitting on the bench like I kind of thought they'd 177 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: bring munos in here, like we kind of did you say. 178 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: Kind of rash or brash or brash? Yeah, honestly, I 179 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 7: mean you never know. Hitting is hard, right and baseball 180 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 7: is crazy. We have all these in the world, and 181 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 7: in George, he continually comes up with a huge hit. 182 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: Time after time. 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 7: We were all hoping for a base hit, and uh 184 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 7: he won uped us, that's for sure. You know, credit 185 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 7: to honestly the Mariners, their bullpen. They they're incredible all year, 186 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 7: in all postseason. And so, you know, regardless, I think 187 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 7: you're you're thinking a little bit less about the picture 188 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 7: and you're you're thinking a little bit more about George 189 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 7: and putting your faith in him and his ability to 190 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 7: get the job done regardless of who's on the mound. 191 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think looking back, they probably had a 192 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 7: few different options, but nobody knows those conversations when that 193 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 7: dugout and in that bullpen to end up making that decision. 194 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 7: But I think for us Andres had a huge sacrifice 195 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 7: bunt to put runners on second and third and and 196 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 7: it didn't matter who's on the mound. We have every 197 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 7: all the confidence in the world in George to be 198 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 7: able to come through for us big time. 199 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 6: You know you're happy they brought in you can you 200 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 6: guys are all happy on that bench and you guys like, oh, 201 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 6: George Homer, nice, thanks guys, thank you, thank you. 202 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Seattle. So it's okay. I know how listen, you're not 203 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: gonna say it, I'll say it for you. It's cool. 204 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: But I want to know are you pitching Game three? 205 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: Have they told you? Are you guys going same same rotation? 206 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: I think we're still I think we're still figuring some 207 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: things out. 208 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 7: I heard you guys talking when I was in the 209 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 7: waiting room there trying to get an answer from me. 210 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: I actually don't have an answer just yet. 211 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: But I think you're saving it for media. It's cool, 212 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: we get it. 213 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you guys are the media man. 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 7: In twelve minutes, I might find out when everybody else 215 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 7: finds out to be fair, But I just it's a 216 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 7: World Series. 217 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, no matter. 218 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 7: What, we're leaving it all out there, So I don't 219 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 7: care when it is. I'm just excited and grateful to 220 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 7: be able to get an opportunity and get the ball. 221 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: And so whenever I do get that, I'll get my 222 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: all shame. 223 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: So they kept they always talk about this. You had 224 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: Tommy John not that long ago. Okay, is it a thing? 225 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 6: Is this a real thing where you throw one day 226 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 6: and you're like, Okay, my arm feels great and I 227 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 6: have great stuff, and then the next time, because it's 228 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: kind of been in the postseason, one good one, one 229 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 6: bad one, one really good one, one bad one. You know, 230 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: is that a real thing where sometimes you just don't 231 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 6: feel it because you haven't fully come back from Tommy John? 232 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 6: Because the Game three start, your slider was literally stopping 233 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 6: and just making a left turn on TV, right right 234 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 6: turn or left turn for you, right tern for the 235 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 6: hitter right, and then in Game seven it just wasn't 236 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: as sharp. 237 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: Is that a Tommy John thing? Or is that just 238 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: day to day thing? 239 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: Who's to say? I think I located it much much 240 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: better in Seattle. 241 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 7: You know, I left some pitches up in Game seven, 242 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 7: and I got punched for it a little bit, and 243 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 7: at the same time, I felt like, uh, yeah, it 244 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 7: just had It was one of those addings. It was 245 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 7: clear early on, and you know, from behind the dish, 246 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 7: like sometimes it's like, oh, we're gonna have to grind 247 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 7: through this one because you know, induced a few ground 248 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 7: balls and they were final and we're just trying to 249 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: limit damage at that point. 250 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: The game kind of. 251 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 7: Like sets its theme early on and you got to 252 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 7: make adjustments and compete and roll. 253 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: With it, and that's kind of what it was. And so. 254 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: I think in a game seven, you're just focusing on 255 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 7: getting as many outs as you can and keeping the 256 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 7: game close. 257 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: And fortunately I was able to do that. 258 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 7: And you know, in regards to Tommy John, I don't 259 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 7: know what's going on right now, Like there's yeah, everybody 260 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: I've spoken to is telling me and had told me, like, 261 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 7: get you know, once you get to that first off season, 262 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 7: because I didn't have an off season last year. I 263 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 7: was rehabbing and throwing and building up throughout the entire 264 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 7: thing and in spring training. 265 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't pitching in games the first half of 266 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: this year. 267 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 7: But you know, I'm throwing bullpens, you know, two three 268 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: a week and then lives and you know, starting on 269 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 7: a five day rotation. So it's been a it's been 270 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 7: a grind, that's for sure. It's been a long year 271 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 7: and a half two years. But guys say, like, well, 272 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 7: you get that full off season and then you build 273 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: up and do normal spring training, that's when things kind 274 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 7: of start. 275 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: To feel normal. 276 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 7: But for me, I don't even think I would recognize 277 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 7: what normal is right now, just because of where I'm at, 278 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 7: coming off of surgery, you know, having just started throwing 279 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 7: a baseball just a year ago, and now I find 280 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 7: myself pitching the World Series. 281 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: Is there a difference for you going into a start 282 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: because you said in Seattle? In Seattle, your slider was good. 283 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 5: Do you feel like your stuff is different in Toronto, 284 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 5: in Seattle, in Toronto, in la or in Toronto roof close, 285 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: roof open, like where you can you can spin it differently? 286 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it can be absolutely And that's something I've kind 287 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 7: of learned a lot more about this year, just playing 288 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 7: in an environment like this with a dome, making some 289 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 7: starts with the roof open and with the roof close 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 7: and different different wind patterns. 291 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: And after my first start, I think it was the 292 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: roof was open and I. 293 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 7: Was throwing change ups that I could not land in 294 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 7: the strike zone, and I was looking up at the 295 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: the metrics of it and it was like negative four 296 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 7: vertical and negative twenty two horizontal and as twice as 297 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: much movement as I was used to right and was 298 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 7: trying to make the adjustment mid mid game and on 299 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 7: the mound. So yeah, absolutely, environment definitely impacts the way 300 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: the ball moves and the way. 301 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: You might go about pitching. But at the same time, 302 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: you try and just. 303 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 7: Figure it out early on and make the adjustments necessary, 304 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 7: and then it doesn't really matter. Nobody cares what the 305 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 7: environments like. You got to go out there and compete. 306 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: Interesting that you look at that, by the way, and 307 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 6: then you try to make adjustments. 308 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: My hell, pitching has changed. 309 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 6: I mean it's crazy how pitching is, you know, I 310 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: look at vertical and horizontal. It kind of like, man, 311 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 6: I really. 312 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: Threw a good slider and punch that dude out on them. 313 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 6: So that's what you should tell next time it comes 314 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 6: to take you out. You should go like Max and 315 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 6: be like, look at the vertical on my slide. It's 316 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 6: good right now. 317 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 7: No, and we make fun of ourselves for sure. For that, 318 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 7: Like there's there's definitely a nice balance. You don't want 319 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 7: to just like completely rely on that stuff, but sometimes 320 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 7: it's nice to add context. So why why for you know, 321 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 7: the love of guy, you can't land a change up 322 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 7: and you've been able to do it for the last 323 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 7: last six months. 324 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: But at the same time, like. 325 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 7: Now I'm hearing hitters do that too, and they're coming 326 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 7: back and looking at the iPads and so it's not 327 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 7: just hitters they're they're or it's not just pictures. It's 328 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 7: it's hitters two that are focused on all that stuff 329 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 7: and for better or for worse, it helps. 330 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: Them, but it might hurt them as well. So we'll see, all. 331 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 6: Right, last three, But because we know you got to 332 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: go last three real quick? One, what's it like to 333 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: be because the logo behind you says World Series. You 334 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 6: were on the Guardians, you were hurt, you got traded 335 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 6: to the Blue Jays, now you're in the World Series. 336 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: Explain that feeling to. 337 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: Us, Yeah, hard to explain. 338 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 7: We didn't know what what was int or for for 339 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 7: my family and I getting traded over here. 340 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: You know what was that end of July. And you know, 341 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: thankfully I knew a lot. 342 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 7: Of guys here, A lot of guys from Cleveland have 343 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 7: ended up here in Toronto, and these guys have welcomed 344 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: me with open arms, and the team and even guys 345 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 7: I didn't know prior to to get traded over here 346 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: that they've taken amazing care and and helped this My 347 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 7: family and I acclimate so so well. 348 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: And so. 349 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 7: Really it's a it's a surreal feeling now pitching in 350 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 7: the World Series and being in the World Series, and 351 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 7: this is the most fun I've ever had playing baseball. 352 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 7: I'm enjoying every second with these guys, and so I 353 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 7: can't wait to continue it. But it's a it's a 354 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 7: crazy feeling, that's for sure. 355 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 6: Okay, Second one is is bo gonna play? Is he 356 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 6: gonna be out there playing short stuff for you guys 357 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 6: in tomorrow. 358 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 7: I know he's working his tail off to to get 359 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: to a point, to push them hard, to to make 360 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 7: the right decision. I think he's probably already rehabbing or 361 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 7: hitting right now. I saw him a little bit earlier, 362 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 7: and so I don't know when they got to release 363 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 7: the roster, probably tonight, tomorrow morning. So I know they 364 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 7: they definitely have some decisions to make, but you ain't 365 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 7: getting that answer for me. And you think, if you 366 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 7: if you think, I know, you're crazy. 367 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: Man. 368 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 6: Dang, you're so good at this stuff. You're so good 369 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 6: at not answering questions but not really answer. That's why 370 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 6: I wore this shirt. I wore this shirt just for you, Okay, 371 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 6: just because I know, just because I know. 372 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about the Hotspurs. 373 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, he's not a Hotspur fan. 374 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: What do you want me to your last question? 375 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 6: That was my last question. I wore that shirt just 376 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 6: for him. I wanted to see his feelings on you. 377 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 6: He just laughed. 378 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: I love it. I appreciate it. 379 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: You're what you're Chelsea, right, Chelsea. 380 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: Fan, Liverpool, Liverpool shot. 381 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 7: They're playing more, they're playing more American football games in 382 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 7: that stadium than they are European football. 383 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: Hey, well, you know you gotta get that money. Gotta 384 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: make that money. Concerts in football. 385 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: Exactly, getting a call and you've got to go anywhere. No, Shane, 386 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: thank you for the time. If you can hear us, 387 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: appreciate you. I know you're getting a call We're at 388 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: time for you, so go to media day. 389 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: Have the best time. 390 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck. 391 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys, appreciate you. 392 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: Hed. 393 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: This episode of FT is presented by Fox one and 394 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: Fox one is now live stream all your Fox favorites 395 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: together in one place. MLB postseason, which is now up 396 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: to World Series. 397 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Shane Bieber. 398 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: Shane Bieber pitch game three or four, six or seven 399 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 6: or whenever. He won't tell us. 400 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe like he knows. Come on, he hasn't, 401 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: no cratzy. I bet he doesn't know. I'm gonna go. 402 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: He was honest. Okay, okay. 403 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 6: It's also like Logan Gilbert didn't know when we asked 404 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 6: him and he was I was like, which one one? 405 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: He was like, oh you know he knew. He was like, 406 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: am I allowed to say yes? 407 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: Yes? Yes? Yes? 408 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: Is it officially announced? 409 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 410 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: No, but listen. 411 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 6: I mean that he was a great interview first catching 412 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 6: pitch on Fox one. Whether it's game it's probably gonna 413 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: be game three, and if it goes to game seven, 414 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 6: he'll be out there in game seven. But I love 415 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 6: his confidence. 416 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: He's like, when we win the World Series, we're having 417 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 3: that party in the locker room. Trash. I freaking love it. 418 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: That's awesome. 419 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 6: That's what's all about right there. And if he's got 420 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 6: that good slider going, he owns show hate too. By 421 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 6: the way, two for thirteen with six punchies. That's pretty good. 422 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: That is good. 423 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: So Joe Hay won't be pitching that game. So you're 424 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: saying that was the game where the batwoke up? 425 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: Who wasn't that said? Show Hey didn't do anything special 426 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: that game? That was dumb. 427 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: Take Rob Parker. 428 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: I like you, Rob, but that was bad take. 429 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: I'm all four going outside the box, but like, you 430 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: have to give me something. I actually opened up the 431 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: article and I was like, is he gonna say something interesting? 432 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: And he didn't say anything. He just said, like, people 433 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: have hit three homers in a game before, people have 434 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: pitched really well before, but. 435 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 3: Not in the same game. Roberts anyways, I like. I 436 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: like Rob too. He's a he's a good guy. 437 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: I do too. 438 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: We can bring him on, he's been on. Yeah, he's 439 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: super nice. We should I mean, we should get him 440 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: back too. 441 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: Is he I think he is. 442 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean maybe that contributes to his take. 443 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, but what I can tell you is 444 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: seven day free trial, foxwe dot Com, QR code on 445 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: the screen Brady on Sundays exactly. And the World Series, 446 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: which is most important for you right now Friday night. 447 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: If you don't know where to find it and you 448 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: need a spot, you don't have TV, cable whatever, Fox 449 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: one is your solution. Grant Brisbee is back on foul Territory. 450 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: You can find all of his work in the Athletic. 451 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: He's one of the funnier writers out there. I'll say 452 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: it for Grand He goes for it. He takes chances 453 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: to try and make you laugh and I appreciate that. 454 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: So Grant, good to see you, and we're bringing you 455 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: on at least to start here to talk about your 456 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: latest The Lover's Guide to the twenty twenty five World Series. 457 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: So how you doing and how are you taking care 458 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: of the lovers out there. 459 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 8: I'm doing very very well. As you know, I grew 460 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 8: up a Giants fan writing about the Giants, so it's 461 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 8: a it's a pleasure to be on here at the 462 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 8: Giants catching legend and also a j Perzinski. 463 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 6: But I have a bubble head, Grant, Look at this, 464 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 6: Look at this, I have a Giants bubble ahead. 465 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: You know what Crowds doesn't have one of those, does he? No, 466 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: Crowds doesn't, but not yet. 467 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 8: I'm working on. I got an article in the can. 468 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: I retired either by the Giants, like minus. 469 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 8: Last year, you had me on after writing The Hater's 470 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 8: Guide to the World Series because it was the Dodgers 471 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 8: and Yankees and it was an annoying matchup. It was 472 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 8: a fun matchup ended up being a short world series, 473 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 8: maybe not the most even, but a fun world series. 474 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 8: But it was still an annoying world series leading up 475 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 8: to it. So I had a totally different preview in mind, 476 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 8: and my editor said, no, do that for last year. 477 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 8: You hate this world series, right, But I don't. I 478 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 8: like this world series. This world series is fun, it's fresh, 479 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 8: it's new. So so I'm all. 480 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: In, Okay, why give me some more context on why 481 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: the half the world series is the same from last year, 482 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: but now you're suddenly in love. 483 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 8: Well last year Dodgers Yankees. Look, I know the Yankees 484 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 8: haven't had the same success that they had in the 485 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 8: turnal of litt Millennium, but they're still the Yankees. They're 486 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 8: still a boogeyman. 487 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 7: You know. 488 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 8: The Cowboys haven't been to a Super Bowl in thirty 489 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 8: five years, people still get annoyed by the Cowboys, and 490 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 8: the Yankees have that same vibe. There's still kind of 491 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 8: a payroll bully. They're still in the postseason every year. 492 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 8: So you could pick the Yankees, but you didn't feel 493 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 8: good about it. The Blue Jays are friendlier. They're named 494 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 8: after a well, an annoying bird, but they're named after 495 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 8: a bird. They're like, they're a fun, new, fresh team. 496 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 8: They've got they've got flat Tito, they've got so much 497 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 8: going for him, they've got a hot shot rookie, and 498 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 8: it's a new team in a hungry fan base. Now 499 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 8: you have someone to root for if you're not a 500 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 8: Dodgers fan, and so you have an entire country rooting 501 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 8: against you, and then you've got most of the baseball 502 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 8: loving world rooting against you. And if you're a Dodgers fan, 503 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 8: that's perfect. 504 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: That's perfect. 505 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 8: I mean, you don't have to you don't have to 506 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 8: overthink that. It's it's great. You love it when when 507 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 8: the world is against you. I mean, right now, I 508 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 8: didn't plan this, but you know I'm wearing a Golden 509 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 8: State Warriors sweatshirt. When they got Kevin Durant. Yeah, that 510 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 8: was funny. Everyone got mad at the Warriors and it 511 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 8: was one of the best times in my sporting fan life. 512 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 8: So I love that everyone has a rooting interest in 513 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 8: this World series. 514 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 6: So yeah, I was gonna get on you because you're 515 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 6: wearing a Dodger blue sweater and you're a Giants fan. 516 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: That's unacceptable. 517 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: So I'm glad that you showed that because I was like, man, 518 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 6: is he really wearing a Dodger sweatshirt? So one of 519 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: the reasons if you're if you don't if you picked 520 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 6: the room for the Dodgers, what were the three reasons 521 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: you said you're a Dodger fan. 522 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: You're Sandy Kofax or what was the third one? 523 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 8: You like showho Tony. That's reasonable, you know, especially I 524 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 8: if you're overseas or if you're just getting into baseball, 525 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 8: maybe you're a kid and you live somewhere where there's 526 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 8: not a baseball team or there is, and you still 527 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: love Stani. Totally fine, And it's not like if you 528 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 8: choose another reason, like you like the logo, you're a dork. 529 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 8: It just means that's what most people. They found their 530 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 8: way to the Dodgers by being born into it by 531 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 8: living in a certain area or being a big fan 532 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 8: of Otani. The rest of the world falls outside that circle, 533 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 8: and it's a pretty big circle. 534 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 5: So do you think Dave Roberts is right that the 535 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: Dodgers are ruining baseball? 536 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 8: I've thought that since like nineteen eighty two, and so 537 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 8: I'm a little biased. No, I don't think, you know, 538 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 8: when you go back, if the Dodgers, how would I put? 539 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 8: They're at least doing it in a way that I 540 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 8: don't think you can repeat ad infinitum. I don't think that, 541 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 8: no matter how hard you want the next show Heotani, 542 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 8: that there's going to be a next show heo Atani. 543 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 8: I don't think that the next time there's a Mookie 544 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 8: bets that his very rich parent franchise will give him 545 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 8: up that easy. I think a lot of things have 546 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 8: kind of fallen into place, and they have the Juggernaut already, 547 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: they have the structural advantages, like I don't want to 548 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 8: minimize that, but this kind of Dodger's dominance really relies 549 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 8: on Shohyotani, and he's you know, he's not gonna come 550 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 8: around again. He's a superhero. This is it so that 551 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 8: that's the way to kind of make peace with it. 552 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: You're talking me into really liking this matchup the Dodgers 553 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: of the Evil Empire. You've got the star power with 554 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: guys like Otani and Vladdie. But here I'll add this 555 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: to the mix. And I know you included this in 556 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: your all inclusive article. You have traditional it sounds where 557 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: it even say traditional starting pitching where they actually will 558 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: keep going in games. And then you also have contact 559 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: and I know they can hit the slug too, but 560 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: contact top contact team in the sport. 561 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: That's how you hook me in. 562 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's that is the promise of a really fun 563 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 8: world series. So even when you have Dodgers Yankees, it's 564 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 8: a great matchup. You have great players on both sides. 565 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 8: But you sort of knew how the outs were going 566 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 8: to get made. You were going to see a lot 567 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 8: of swing and miss. You're going to see a lot 568 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 8: of big time swings that were going for the fences 569 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 8: and not getting it. But that's their game. This is different. 570 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 8: This is a Blue Jays team that loves putting the 571 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 8: ball in play. The Dodgers led the majors and strikeouts, 572 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 8: so it's not it's not a given that they're just 573 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 8: gonna whap the ball all over the ballpark. But they 574 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 8: put the ball in play, and that's when things happen. 575 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 8: It sounds simple, it sounds reductive, but anything can happen 576 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 8: when a ball is in play. That is when you 577 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 8: get the triple play. That is when you get the 578 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 8: triple down the line. You get an inside the park 579 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 8: home run, you get someone thrown out at the plate 580 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 8: trying for an inside the park home run. You get 581 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 8: a routine grounder to short, you get someone making the 582 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 8: best play you've ever seen in your life at short. 583 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 8: Balls in play are fun. Strikeouts are cool if the 584 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 8: moment is right, but balls in play are just That's 585 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 8: why we watch baseball, and I get why teams are 586 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 8: strikeout heavy. I get how do you maximize your chances 587 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 8: of success if the ball isn't in play? But let's 588 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 8: let's see some baseball and the Blue Jays offer that. 589 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: Okay, before we go to your team, who are you 590 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: rooting for and who's gonna win? 591 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 8: I am a credentialed member of the Baseball Writers Association 592 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 8: of America and I can't officially root for a team. 593 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: I didn't. 594 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 6: That's what I said. I guess that wasn't the question 595 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: who do you want to win? And who's gonna win? 596 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 8: Dodgers are gonna win, Okay, yeah, because they're they're they're 597 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 8: the better team in Yeah, well it's you know, you 598 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 8: can be a Giants, a Giants writer, and be a 599 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 8: fatalist too. I think that fits in, uh with the 600 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 8: general ethos. 601 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 602 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 8: Who do I want to win? Honestly, like it sounds 603 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 8: like a bit, but I just want some like a 604 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: fun World Series, I really do. You just want a 605 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 8: game set like to me the ending of the World 606 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 8: Baseball Classic with Otani and Trout. It was so perfect 607 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 8: it felt scripted. I want something like that, and I 608 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 8: don't care if it's Trout striking out or Trout getting 609 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 8: the home run in this analogy, but I want seven 610 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 8: games and I want people to be delirious. The best 611 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 8: baseball experience I've ever had in my life was Game 612 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 8: five of the twenty seventeen World Series. I was in 613 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 8: the auxiliary press box in Houston and just watching a 614 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 8: ballpark lose its mind in one of the wackiest games 615 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 8: I've ever seen. I want that, but without revelations later 616 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 8: that that maybe might spoil it a little bit. 617 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: Okay, so you want Kershaw to close it out for 618 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: the Dodgers. Cool? 619 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 6: As a Giants fan, I please, okay, But all right, 620 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: so here's my choy. We're gonna go to the Giants. 621 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 6: Now we're gonna go to your team. What did you 622 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 6: think of the new manager? Higher, I think it's fascinating. Listen, 623 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: Do I hope Tony Vaitello six undred percent? Do I 624 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 6: think he's a good college coach? Absolutely? 625 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: Do we know what kind of MLB manager is going 626 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: to be? Absolutely not. 627 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: But it is gonna be mesmerizing to watch who he hires, 628 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 6: what staffhires, where he goes. What is game planning is 629 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: like what is bullpen? It's gonna be must watch TV 630 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 6: for me every night to see how he handles his 631 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 6: starting in spring training. 632 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 8: That's really the only way to think about it. The 633 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 8: only way to approach this is this is interesting. This 634 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 8: is curious because you've got not only is he never 635 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 8: managed a game of the majors, He's never managed a 636 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 8: game in the miners. He's never played a game in 637 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 8: the miners. He has as many professional hits as I do, 638 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 8: and he's just he's a total unknown. And I was 639 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: thinking about it. And yes, you know, he's a gregarious guy, 640 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 8: a leader of men, as they say, and he is 641 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 8: supposed to be a very good communicator. All these things 642 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 8: that are going to be what you want in any 643 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 8: managerial candidate in twenty twenty five. But I really do 644 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 8: think that one of the things that is a problem 645 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 8: with a lot of teams, not just the Giants, but 646 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 8: the Giants, is a lack of fundamental a lack of 647 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 8: just getting people on the same page when it comes 648 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 8: to hitting the cutoff man, making the right play, picking 649 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 8: up your third base, coaches around the bases. It sounds simple, 650 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 8: and I know Bob Melvin cared about that. It's not 651 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 8: like he's hearing this for the first time. You going, 652 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 8: wait a second, You're supposed to do those things. But 653 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 8: they needed a new voice, someone who is used to 654 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 8: not surprised when they're seeing a lack of fundamentals, perhaps 655 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 8: at the major league level, someone who is able to 656 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 8: communicate it without condescending. To these high paid superstars who 657 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 8: have never struggled, you know, in their careers, when it 658 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 8: comes to baseball over like a year long stretch, it 659 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 8: just it seems to me like it's a they're trying 660 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 8: to match that goal of teaching fundamentals with you know, 661 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 8: getting guys on board. Buster Posey's convinced, and that's it 662 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 8: would be different. I think if anyone else, if it 663 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 8: Brian Saviian or Farnsiety, if they were trying to convince me, 664 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 8: I'd be like, Okay, that's that's a big task. When 665 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 8: Uster Posey says I think this will work, then it 666 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 8: becomes less risky and more oh, this is interesting and 667 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 8: we'll see how it works. 668 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: Do you feel like he was definitely his number one 669 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: choice or do you feel like someone else denied the 670 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 5: position or didn't want to take take on what it 671 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 5: meant to manage the giants when they got Once they 672 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: got farther in an interview process, it. 673 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 8: Was Nick Hutley's job, if you wanted it. I don't 674 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 8: think that's a secret. I think that you know, he's 675 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 8: super close with Buster Posey when they met. I'm sure 676 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 8: Posey at the time was just thinking for an entire season, 677 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 8: this kid's going to be a manager one day, and 678 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 8: you know, baseball works out in funny ways, and he 679 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 8: had a chance, but he didn't want to go right 680 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 8: back to the grind and Honestly, I don't know how 681 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 8: anyone does, you know, retire as a player and then 682 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 8: go immediately back to the grind. I feel like I 683 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 8: would sleep for twenty years. I can't even believe you 684 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 8: guys do this like I would. Just it's so much 685 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 8: work to be, you know, a manager, swip player, a coach, 686 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 8: and when you have kids at home. I'm surprised this 687 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 8: doesn't come up more often, but it was Hunley's job 688 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 8: if you wanted it. 689 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we'll see how Tony does. It's going to 690 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: be fascinating to follow. 691 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm excited for You've got some storylines to follow this 692 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: coming season for San Francisco. Buster Posey is making things 693 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: a lot more interesting. I think that's safe to say 694 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: for the writers out there. He's rooting for fun stories 695 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: to cover. 696 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: And there you go. Grant, this was great. 697 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm all in I already was, but I'm even more 698 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: all in on the world series. 699 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure of talking to you. 700 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: Check out Grant and all his work in The Athletic 701 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: also part of the ground Table podcast on the Athletic Network. 702 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Grant, good talking to you man. 703 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 8: Thank you very much for having me on