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Speaker 5: that looks familiar. It's orange and white and black.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, he's got and.

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Speaker 3: Oil, I started flashing out an idolka.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know if it's the center or have

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Speaker 8: you heard common problems at the center?

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Speaker 3: And if I do replace it, should I go with

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Speaker 5: It's a two thousand and five, so you may you

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 5: Others are open, but I am here to take your

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Speaker 5: call at eight five five.

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Speaker 6: Six hundred and now tea running boy. You've seen the.

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Speaker 5: Price of new cars, and my gosh, everything's expensive. It

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Speaker 5: seems that way, it really does. And the other side

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Speaker 5: of that is, I think you're all broke, judging by

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Speaker 5: what's going on lately, the conversations I'm having with people,

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Speaker 5: you guys are you guys are all in a tough spot.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's kind of counting nickels, and I don't know if

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Speaker 5: that's a sign of the times, the economy, or the time.

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Speaker 6: Of year, or just what exactly it is.

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Speaker 5: But just just a bunch of stories from the shop

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Speaker 5: this week that just told me that, you know, dollars

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Speaker 5: are tight, tighter than normal. I think Teresa came in

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Speaker 5: with her two twenty one Kia minivan, and Teresa's a

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Speaker 5: regular we see you're on a pret regular basis. It's

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Speaker 5: a little hard for her to get into us because

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Speaker 5: she comes from a distance, so we may not see

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Speaker 5: her for one or two oil changes, but she gets

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Speaker 5: in there for the big stuff, and you know, her

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Speaker 5: backup is she goes to her local Kia dealer over

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Speaker 5: where she lives on that side of the state. And

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Speaker 5: as she puts it, she says, you know, Ron, I

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Speaker 5: don't trust them, but I just don't know where else

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Speaker 5: to go, and I can't always get to you. And

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Speaker 5: I understand that I do, I really do. I take

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Speaker 5: no offense, and I kind of think it helps because

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Speaker 5: I you know, to me order repairs like dating. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think the other guy is cuter, Eh, go ahead,

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Speaker 5: have a good time. And then when they come back,

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Speaker 5: the grass isn't always greener, and it just sort of,

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Speaker 5: you know, strengthens that position in a quiet solidarity kind

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Speaker 5: of way. So she went in for an oil change

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Speaker 5: because and it was more than that. Actually it was

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Speaker 5: the oil filter adapter housing was leaking, and they said

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Speaker 5: need battery cables. I didn't understand that. So she brought

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Speaker 5: the positive cable did the same thing. So both battery

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Speaker 5: cables even though the nuts were tight, and it's ay

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Speaker 5: what they've a lot of the car companies have gone

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Speaker 5: to now. It's say, it's what I think of as

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Speaker 5: a swedged nut. As you tighten it, it pulls itself

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how you're judging I don't know

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Speaker 5: how you're judging any of it. If the battery cables

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Speaker 5: aren't tight, if the battery cable aren't clean, you can't

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Speaker 5: just condemn anything. You can't run any tests. It's what

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Speaker 5: do we need? We need good clean contact. I told

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Speaker 5: Teresa the story. At the end, Billy my boss, my

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Speaker 5: years now, you know, nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 5: As you get older in this business, you're going to

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Speaker 5: come to some basic things that are always going to

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Speaker 5: have to be there. They need good tires, they need

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Speaker 5: good breaks, they need a good battery and a good

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Speaker 5: basic electrical system. And Billy had some foresight, he said,

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Speaker 5: I don't care how complicated things get.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you could see how complicated they

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Speaker 5: That you know the basics still hold true. You've got

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Speaker 5: You just can't randomly PLoP it out into the middle

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Speaker 5: You can't run tests on anything until you fix the obvious.

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Speaker 5: It was really difficult fixing the battery cables, it really was.

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Speaker 6: I loosened up the.

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Speaker 5: Nuts and I found a socket that fit over the

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Speaker 5: outer circumference of the terminal, because I could see that

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Speaker 5: the battery cable wasn't pushed down all the way onto

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Speaker 5: the battery post, it was up a little bit. So

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Speaker 5: I found an older socket, a scrap socket, and I

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Speaker 5: I just took up my little, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: spread everything. It reshaped everything, and I was able to

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Speaker 5: tighten the terminal, no problem, no thing, nothing extreme, and

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Speaker 5: tightened right up and everything was great. And I did

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Speaker 5: the same thing to the positive side.

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Speaker 6: Of course.

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Speaker 5: Then when I was done, now this is a five

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Speaker 5: battery using one of the computerized battery testers charging system

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Speaker 5: testers that we have in the shop, and yeah, the

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Speaker 5: battery came up as a failure, so it did need

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Speaker 5: a battery. Now I felt very confident, which you guys

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Speaker 5: know me right. Confidence is the name of the game. Hey,

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Speaker 5: your car's fixed.

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Speaker 6: What'd you do?

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Speaker 5: Well, we fixed the two terminals. We put a battery

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Speaker 5: in it after we charged it up to level because

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Speaker 5: you can't tell anything on a dead battery, and the

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Speaker 5: battery was marginal. The battery only had a thirty five

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Speaker 6: And you know, is that because of the age.

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Speaker 5: Is that because the terminals were loose because the alternator

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Speaker 5: couldn't read it?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: How critical is that connection? Well, it's critical enough that

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Speaker 5: Kia puts a battery charge rate sensor on the negative post,

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Speaker 5: so it's looking at charge rate to make a determination

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Speaker 5: as well. Part of the determination on how to run

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Speaker 5: the alternator, on how to charge the vehicle based on

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: My point is, I just can mechanics look beyond their noses?

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Speaker 5: And you know what, I blame the mechanics in this

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Speaker 5: I get why it's a lot of money. I get

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Speaker 5: why it would have been fifteen hundred dollars because battery

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Speaker 5: cables kind of wiggle, waggle and disappear into the car

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Speaker 5: and they're part of the wiring harness and very expensive.

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Speaker 5: But why can't they say, Hey, we can take a

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Speaker 5: that as an option? And I hate to talk badly

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Speaker 5: there's some of the smartest mechanics I've ever met, because

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Speaker 5: and they say, oh, let's do this. We don't have to,

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Speaker 5: you know, spend fifteen hundred dollars. We can do this

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Speaker 5: a much better way and make all of this work.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's just so important, especially in this

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Speaker 5: I see a lot of this. I see that we're

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Speaker 5: all questioning what things cost. I talked to coach Dave

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Speaker 5: so I'm not one hundred percent. I'm cranky though, so

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Speaker 5: this ought to be good. I was talking to Coach

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Speaker 5: Dave the other day at the gym Dave where I

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Speaker 5: go CrossFit Bison and big shout out to everybody over there,

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Speaker 5: my five am family. And he's thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 5: does he get rid of the plow truck.

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Speaker 6: His plow truck is now.

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Speaker 5: Four years old and it's got thirty five thousand miles

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Speaker 5: on it, and he uses it to plow the parking

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Speaker 5: lot of the gym. You know, when it snows and

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Speaker 5: we started talking and you know, he was asking me questions,

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Speaker 5: you know, does he get rid of it? Does he

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Speaker 5: and I said, well, I said, you know, you've got

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Speaker 5: to realize that the four years you've owned it, it's

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Speaker 5: everything's been under warranty. So if you keep it, planned

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Speaker 5: to keep it another four years, that vehicle is now

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Speaker 5: going to cost you something in the way of maintenance

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Speaker 5: and repairs.

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Speaker 6: I mean it has to.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's going to be eight years old when

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Speaker 5: suggestion for him is what you've always heard me say. Here,

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Speaker 5: go find out what that plow truck is worth. Go

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Speaker 5: find out what they'll give you on trade, and then

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Speaker 5: realize that you can sell it for more, because right now,

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Speaker 5: What does it really cost and what's your time worth

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Speaker 5: Are you expecting? And here's here's the reason I brought

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Speaker 6: You don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave it here and I consider him a friend

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Speaker 5: Food to think about. I'm ronning Ay in the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: This when you get keep Ron's number handy eight five

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Speaker 8: Ron Hey, very welcome. Yes, I have two thousand and

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Speaker 6: Okay, No, go ahead, tell me the story, Okay.

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Speaker 8: Okay, the story is. In December twenty four, some codes

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Speaker 5: Okay, So this is a drive by wire vehicle like

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Speaker 6: Leave you stranded, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, this particular problem is common on GM vehicles.

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Speaker 5: Right, four oh forty one Baker all right, okay, And

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Speaker 5: It's going to take some lapscope time and some dedicated diagnosis.

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Speaker 5: Of course, here's the vehicle that's seventeen years old. I've

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Speaker 5: he's got it, he's got it. You gotta have stick

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Speaker 5: But in any case, get a look at that bulletin

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Speaker 6: I appreciate the call. Call me if you need more,

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Speaker 6: jan I'm Ronning Andy and the car Doctor. I'll be

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Speaker 1: From the city streets to the open road tonight. If

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Speaker 2: He he's the car Doctor.

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Speaker 6: Ryvis.

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Speaker 5: Do I see the boys in the band have recovered

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Speaker 5: from New Year's They're up in They're very lively today, Tom,

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Tell them, Tell them good.

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Speaker 5: So let's go to Tom and wiscon Yeah, no, what, no, Okay,

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Speaker 5: let's go to Tom and Wisconsin seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Super Tom.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Car Doctor A five five, five six

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Speaker 6: How can I help?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Before we get started with my question, Ron, I

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Speaker 7: want to tell you that you've done an incredible service

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Speaker 7: to do all of humanity by running your recorded conversations

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Speaker 7: with Uncle Steve. Those are some of the most incredible

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Speaker 7: things I've ever listened to. I listened every year. I

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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, Your uncle Steve was. You know, every

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Speaker 5: And so of course I would go to my father's brother,

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Speaker 5: and you know, there wasn't a moment you couldn't and

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Speaker 5: what do you mean you can't do that? You're in Ananian.

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Speaker 5: Of course you can do that. Just do it, just

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Speaker 5: that time period that he grew up in. And thank you.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate those words. It means a lot.

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Speaker 6: So how can I help you, toy sir? How can

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Speaker 7: Okay? So I have a twenty seventeen Subaru Forester with

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Speaker 7: it was a rear wheel bearing. Okay, But as I

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Speaker 5: I mean, it could be Tom, it could be tires

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Speaker 5: from the rear of the vehicle and it's not tires

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00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 5: and it's not wheel bearings. The only thing else that's

438
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 5: back there is the rear differential itself. And again, listening

439
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 5: to it with a mechanic stethoscope, we'll tell you a

440
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 5: lot and you know, help you, help you to pinpoint it.

441
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 6: You know, have I seen bad Subaru rear diffs? Yeah?

442
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 5: You know, two percent out of the one hundred percent

443
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 5: that are bad wheel bearings. So it's such a low

444
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 5: ratio spinning it by hand, spinning it or feeling for

445
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: a wobble, I've never felt I've never had one wobble.

446
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: I've never felt it spinning it by hand. It always

447
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 5: has to be done under load, because it has to be.

448
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 5: It has to get up to speed. If you get

449
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. There has to be a certain amount

450
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: of speed associated with with that noise because it won't

451
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: always happen. It doesn't occur at five six miles an hour.

452
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 5: And if it doesn't occur five six miles an hour,

453
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: you're not spinning it at five six miles an hour

454
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 5: in the driveway, right It's it's you got to get

455
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: it going faster. So is it?

456
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 6: Is it a part? Right now?

457
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

458
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 7: You know, so far I haven't taken the wheelbearings out,

459
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 7: but I'm to the point where I was going to start,

460
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 7: but I thought, I kind of hate to do this

461
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 7: because I can't see any evidence at this point. So

462
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 7: that's why I'm talking to you.

463
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: You know, it's if can you get it securely up

464
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 5: all four wheels off the ground, just because is it

465
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 5: an all wheel drive Subaru where the fronts are going

466
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 5: to spin should you go to engage it. Yeah, so

467
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 5: you know this is a case where it needs to

468
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 5: be secure on a lift and you know, drive it

469
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 5: at speed and listen to the rear now point of contention.

470
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: You're in Wisconsin, you guys get that stuff called snow.

471
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 5: I'm sure, I'm sure they put that stuff, you know, salt,

472
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: the lininator or the things that you know melts the

473
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 5: snow and corrosive material. You can almost you know you're

474
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: I can almost tell you you're gonna probably end up

475
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 5: putting backing plates on it, which are not uncommon because

476
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: to get to get those bearings out are a chore.

477
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: You're either using the special six seven hundred dollars after

478
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 5: mark a tool to pull it apart, or you're gonna

479
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 5: use a torch and two bolts from the inside. We

480
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: get Dormant actually makes longer bolt kits, and I forget

481
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: the thread size, but we will find those those longer

482
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 5: bolts from the Dormant supply catalog on their website, and

483
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 5: we will use an air hammer. We will heat the

484
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 5: bearing and then push the bolts with pushes against the

485
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 5: hub to get it to come out, and you know,

486
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 5: not not doing it that way, you'll be there forever.

487
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 5: I've never seen a slide hammer able to able to

488
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 5: move those they are those bearings get so corroded in

489
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 5: there that it's just it's just beyond comprehension. And if

490
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: you're in assault belt state, it's going to be worse.

491
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: And I tell everybody you know lately, as these cars

492
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: get older and it becomes a more prevalent problem, you know,

493
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: be prepared. Backing plates are probably going to be needed

494
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 5: because the ones you're going to take off are so

495
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 5: badly rotted they're not worth saving. So and Super usually

496
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: has them in stock, which tells you.

497
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 7: Something, yeah, okay, And so then my last question is,

498
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 7: so if I put the put it back together and

499
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 7: drive it, is there a danger with that other than

500
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 7: I mean, what can happen?

501
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 5: We've got people out there that come to us, and

502
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: it's the conversation. As usually, my car has been making

503
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: this noise. My Super who has been making this noise

504
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 5: for the past two years. The three mechanics I took

505
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: it to couldn't figure it out. I finally found you

506
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: can you tell me what it is? And we tell

507
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: him it's a wheel bearing, and we put it in there.

508
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 6: I don't encourage you.

509
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: To drive it with a noisy wheel bearing. The bearing

510
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: is brindling. B R I N n E l I

511
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: n G. I believe is the way it gets spelled.

512
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: Is the word just the bull bearings have got a

513
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: little bit of acne, so to speak, and that's what's

514
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 5: making them noisy.

515
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 6: And you know, have I ever seen one come apart?

516
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 5: No?

517
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 6: Would I be comfortable.

518
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: Driving one with a noisy wheel bearing? No, you know

519
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: it's bad as bad. You know you're you're you're asking

520
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 5: me when's it gonna fail? It has failed if it

521
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: is a wheel bearing, tom right. If it is a

522
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: wheel bearing, you know bad is bad. So and listen,

523
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: I'll segue back to Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve would always say,

524
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: whenever he took off, whenever he flew, he knew the

525
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 5: plane was in the best possible condition, because big or small,

526
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 5: he knew the problems were solved, so it could face

527
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 5: any condition that he put it in. And I think

528
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: you probably want that with your vehicle. If you're in Wisconsin,

529
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 5: if you're traveling distance, if you're out in any kind

530
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: of weather, you know there's nothing like being in a warm, safe,

531
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: reliable vehicle in bad weather, knowing you're gonna you know,

532
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: the odds of you getting there have increased because you've

533
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 5: done your maintenance and you've taken good care and due

534
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 5: diligence of the vehicle.

535
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, sir, Okay, thank you very much. I

536
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 7: love your program and I appreciate your help.

537
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 6: Ron, thank you, sir, anytime. Happy to be here for you.

538
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 5: A five five five six o nine nine zero zero.

539
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: I'm running ad in the car doctor. I'll be back

540
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 5: right after this. Hey, there running any in the car doctor.

541
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 6: Eight five five five six o nine nine zero zero.

542
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: Let's go to Stephen in Las Vegas and see what's

543
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 5: going on here. Stephen, Welcome to the car doctor. Sure,

544
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: how can I help?

545
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? The question I have is it's kind of general question.

546
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: When do you decide to keep a car that's like

547
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: ten years old, seventy five thousand miles Honda cordy XLB

548
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: six that more warranty claims. I went for the Hondacare

549
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: extended warranty on the advice of my service advisor. He said,

550
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: this isn't the Hondi you had before. This is you

551
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: got computer screens, you got backup cameras, get get the hondacare.

552
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Every year I've had a claim I had a tool,

553
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: convertency or rear strutch, start a motor, and now I

554
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: got like this, the warranties passed. I'm impeccably maintain the car.

555
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: It's expensive doing the maintenance at the dealership. You know,

556
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: they want you to break break fluid change every fifteen thousand,

557
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: terrain and fill the transmission every thirty coolant you know,

558
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: I do the oil every six months, builters everything. But

559
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: uh they told me I had to have a whining

560
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: humming sound in dry when I'm stopped at a light.

561
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: You know, I put the stereo on to go over it,

562
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: and uh, I burn into the dealer. They wanted to

563
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: charge me too pivity to diagnosed that. I said, no, no, no,

564
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: I did my timing belt once, check the belts the bullies.

565
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: Whatever breaks Okay, So they looked at it and said,

566
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: most likely it's the motor mounts, though I'm not getting

567
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: any vibration. The motormounts are two thousand. So it's just

568
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: so expensive to keep cars today. It's not like the

569
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: old days.

570
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 5: Is so so have you have you priced out a

571
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: replacement vehicle.

572
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's substantially more. But yeah, but you know

573
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: you're starting with a new Well I would buy new,

574
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: right And you know, you know my my comparison with

575
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: my wife as alexis and we've had no problems with

576
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: it at all. Nothing, just the oiel changes, right, you know, Well.

577
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: I think the I think the Lexus is a better

578
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: vehicle to be, to be fair. But you know, to

579
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: get into a Lexus today, something new, something comparable to

580
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 5: an Accord, it's every bit of forty five to fifty.

581
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 6: Grand, correct, right, correct? So you know.

582
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: It's so think of it like, think of it like this, Steven,

583
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 5: can you afford to buy another vehicle?

584
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 7: Sure?

585
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 6: All right?

586
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: Is is is there something out there that floats your

587
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: boat that's going to make you.

588
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 6: A giggle when you drive?

589
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the ES three fifty.

590
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 6: Yeah they're a nice car. Yeah, it's a nice car.

591
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: Last year, the gas model. It's just that, you know,

592
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: the Hondas, I don't know what's what's gone on with

593
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: the four cylinders seem bulletproof, but the sixth yonders seem troublesome.

594
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, I'll tell you what. And the four

595
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: cylinders aren't what they once were either. Listen, I don't

596
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: think any car out there is what it once was, right,

597
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: Honda Civics, the little Honda Civix, the four cylinders, fifteen sixteen's,

598
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: the eighteen's head gasket issues five grand to do head

599
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: gaskets on Hondas. It's crazy numbers and the things you're

600
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: talking about.

601
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: As far as break.

602
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: Fluid and some of the other fluids, that's just normal maintenance. Now,

603
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: that's what vehicles require. That's what they want you to do.

604
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: When do you get rid of it? When do you

605
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 5: get rid of a vehicle? I think you're there. I

606
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: think you got your money's I think you got your

607
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: money's worth out of it.

608
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: You got ten going on eleven years out of it.

609
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: It sounds like it sounds like you put minimal out

610
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: of pocket, right, I think you did.

611
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 6: Okay, it's just well.

612
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. They told me you're looking at

613
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: They gave me like the good debate, the ugly the dealership.

614
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: He told me that, you know you're looking at doing

615
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: your plugs now it's ten years old. You don't like

616
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: the plugs to seal up on you. Where we have

617
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: to break them to get them out nine to fifty right,

618
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: labor and parts to do plugs because they've got to

619
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: take the motor apart to get at the plugs. And

620
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: then once I told another mechanic not associally with the

621
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: deal about the problem with the torque converter, seal went

622
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and the drive ack so

623
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: I had a leak. He said, that could be the

624
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: beginning of the sound you're hearing, could be the torque converter.

625
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: And that's three to five thousands dollars right there.

626
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: It could be the beginning of a trans failure. And

627
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: my point is here we are again, right, it's we're

628
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 5: ten years old. Listen, the numbers don't lie right after

629
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: a vehicle is three years old.

630
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 6: It's funny. I started this hour talking about this, and

631
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: I'm going to end the hour here.

632
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 5: You know, after the vehicle is three years old, it's

633
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five

634
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: dollars a month maintenance. You know, the price of the

635
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: car is the cost of admission. The maintenance you do

636
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: after that. It's just it depends on the vehicle and

637
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: it depends on the conditions. It sounds like your particular

638
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: Honda had a higher than average.

639
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 6: Need, right, like it needed more.

640
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: Now, I'm not going to sit here and overlook the

641
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: fact also it had extended hondacare you know there might

642
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: be things there that a garage might go. Hey, you

643
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: know what, your struts are a little noisy. It's got

644
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: a little bit of an oil seep. It's a lot

645
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 5: of money to fix. Don't worry about it. It's not

646
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: going to stop the car. And you might you might

647
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: have been okay with that, but you know this is listen,

648
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 5: this is like medical insurance. Right, all of a sudden,

649
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 5: we've got medical insurance. Let's run all the tests.

650
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: What the heck? Why not? You know?

651
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: But if it was me at this point you got

652
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: eleven years out of it, you've had minimal expense. I'd

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Speaker 5: be out looking at another Lexus and you know, enjoy

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00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: it and get used to the idea. Yeah, cars are expensive,

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00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 5: so its maintenance. So you've got to balance it and

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00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: decide which way you want to go. I appreciate the call, Steven,

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00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: and enjoy your new car. Just you're down to what

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00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: color I'm running? Ay in the car, doctor, I'll be

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00:33:47,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 5: back right after this I think the decision about when

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: you get rid of the vehicle, I think there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of factors that have to go into it, and

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00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: obviously cost financial, right, what sort of maintenance have you

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 5: done to that vehicle has to come into it, because

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Speaker 5: I think you have to be realistic, you really do.

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Speaker 5: And I was listening to Stephen from Vegas there and

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00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: hearing him talk about, you know, the cost of things.

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00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: But all those fluids he was talking about are just

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00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 5: normal maintenance. It's you know, and break fluid, boy, don't.

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00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 5: We haven't talked about this in a while, but break

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00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 5: fluid is so critical now. There are different levels of

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00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 5: break fluid. There's Dot four, there's Dot for with a

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00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: different viscosity. They're talking about different thicknesses of break fluid.

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00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: There's all sorts of specific break fluids that have very

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00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 5: rigorous demands placed on them. And flushing of break fluid,

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00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 5: maintenance of break fluid is such a critical task today that.

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Speaker 6: Is taken for granted. And I get it.

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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of you come from a time

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00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: when we didn't do any of this, but the vehicle

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: is so different today. The needs of the vehicle are

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00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 5: so different today. I think you get rid of the

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 5: vehicle when your mechanic says, hey, it's got rust, it's

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00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: got rot.

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Speaker 6: It can't be fixed.

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Speaker 5: But if you really like the vehicle, whether you can

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Speaker 5: afford to replace it or not, drive it. If you

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00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: have confidence in your mechanic, if you're sure they can

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00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 5: fix it, if you're sure they can keep you on

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00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: the road. If not, life's too short. Ask yourself what color?

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Speaker 5: Move on, find something else.

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Speaker 6: Till the next time.

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00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 5: I'm rotting Ay and the car. Doctor, good mechanics aren't expensive,

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00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: they're priceless.

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Speaker 6: See you, doctor Carr. Advice to write