Speaker 1: And now watching my my back, you're like that we
Speaker 1: just strike.
Speaker 2: Waters from headquarters behind in the bor if.
Speaker 1: You're just turning into city Sacer. I'm your host, Ramsy's job.
Speaker 3: And my name is Quentin Ward.
Speaker 1: And what we're doing today is talking about rooting support
Speaker 1: for the b LM movement, So definitely stick around for that.
Speaker 1: Our Way Black History fact, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the author Alexander Dumas. I have an interesting story behind
Speaker 1: that that I'm excited to share as well. And I've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of movie watching and I spent
Speaker 1: some time watching the movie Django recently. I had watched
Speaker 1: it in two parts because it's pretty long movie, but
Speaker 1: just a neat story to go along with that as well.
Speaker 1: But first, what we're going to talk about is our
Speaker 1: Baba segment, and so let's get into that right now.
Speaker 1: Baba becoming a better ally. So a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago on the show, we had some
Speaker 1: women up. They were Arizona State University students. They were
Speaker 1: in a video that was seen almost six million times,
Speaker 1: very much viral video, and these women were confronting some
Speaker 1: these these were black women, two or three black women
Speaker 1: and one Pakistani woman, and they confronted two white males
Speaker 1: on the campus of Arizona State University at the Multicultural Center,
Speaker 1: a center that the women fought to create so that
Speaker 1: they could have a place to study free of you know,
Speaker 1: oppressive systems and you know the world that they see it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a student at Arizona State, so I won't
Speaker 1: state their brief, but we invited them up to, you know,
Speaker 1: share the story behind the video that we saw. I
Speaker 1: employ you to go back a couple of episodes and
Speaker 1: check it out. You can find it on civicside for
Speaker 1: dot com. Well, Arizona State University wanted to take some
Speaker 1: disciplinary disciplinary action against those women for standing up for themselves. Obviously,
Speaker 1: on this show, we stand in solidarity with those women.
Speaker 1: You know, the males that came in did so with
Speaker 1: the intention of intimidating them. It wasn't because they were white.
Speaker 1: It's because they were bringing some anti black paraphernalia into
Speaker 1: the space and displaying it in such a way that
Speaker 1: it was intimidating and behaving in a manner that was
Speaker 1: inconsistent with the the promise of that space. Well, the
Speaker 1: disciplinary action has been reduced in at least one instance
Speaker 1: eliminated because of a letter writing campaign. They got over
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred letters sent to Arizona State University. And
Speaker 1: this is my way of saying that writing letters works.
Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity to join a letter
Speaker 1: writing campaign for a cause that you believe in, I
Speaker 1: implore you to do so. If you want to find
Speaker 1: out more about the story I just told, like I said,
Speaker 1: go back a couple of episodes and check out that
Speaker 1: that episode that we aired, and plug in with the
Speaker 1: women on our social media. We follow them on our
Speaker 1: Instagram at Civic Cipher to follow that story and find
Speaker 1: out how you can offer them your support as well. Now,
Speaker 1: the BLM movement, First off, Q, how does this hit you?
Speaker 1: The eroding of the support for the BLM movement.
Speaker 3: So, one thing that was always going to be true
Speaker 3: is that at some point the flash bomb of support
Speaker 3: that BLM received in the midst of one of the
Speaker 3: most lightning struck, extremely polarizing years in our country's history,
Speaker 3: especially in our lifetime, was going to dwindle because, unfortunately,
Speaker 3: for the support to stay strong, the awful things that
Speaker 3: keep happening would have to get the same coverage, the
Speaker 3: same amount of gas would have to be poured on
Speaker 3: those fires, and that just wasn't going to continue. Right once,
Speaker 3: once video recording police killing black people didn't stop police
Speaker 3: from killing black people, one of two things was going
Speaker 3: to happen, a violent revolt by black people, which the
Speaker 3: country seems to have been waiting for for its entire inception.
Speaker 3: Like they think at some point we are going to
Speaker 3: take up arms and try to overthrow the oppressors, or
Speaker 3: people were going to become numb to it, and it
Speaker 3: was going to become normalized and not have the same
Speaker 3: effect anymore. And because contrary to what they think, we
Speaker 3: are not barbaric and evil in nature. We are not
Speaker 3: seeking revenge, just justice. We do not want more than you,
Speaker 3: just the same we do not want to replace you.
Speaker 3: We just want to be able to exist ourselves. Because
Speaker 3: the things that I'm saying are true, and because the
Speaker 3: thing is that they try to sell about us as
Speaker 3: a culture and as a people are not true. It's
Speaker 3: only human nature that the support would d winder. Right,
Speaker 3: because we're going to either seem less or more upset
Speaker 3: about what we're dealing with. We can't get any more
Speaker 3: upset than we are. Right, the only, like I said,
Speaker 3: the alternative would be for us to take arms and
Speaker 3: burn this down, excuse my language. And since we have
Speaker 3: not taken that approach, since it seems that we never will,
Speaker 3: because that is not our goal. Unfortunately, and contrary to
Speaker 3: what people might think, Black people built are proud of
Speaker 3: and deserve to be happy citizens in this country. We
Speaker 3: should not have to destroy it or go back to Africa,
Speaker 3: as we've been implored to do for hundreds of years
Speaker 3: we've been here and because of the colonizing your pressures.
Speaker 3: I don't have any history with Africa. I have my
Speaker 3: ancestry results, but I have no idea where my people
Speaker 3: came from, what tribe, what region, what country? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So the support was always going to dwindle.
Speaker 3: Bro it was always going to be less. People were
Speaker 3: always going to be less outraged. As the thing that
Speaker 3: outraged just became more normal and we became more numb
Speaker 3: to it. The coverage gets less, the outrage is less,
Speaker 3: the support is less. It's a human nature experience. It's
Speaker 3: not even about Black lives matter and specific. The support
Speaker 3: for all causes has dwindled. When it's not October, less
Speaker 3: people are concentrated on breast cancer when it's not February. Less,
Speaker 3: people are concentrating on Black history right when it's not
Speaker 3: the time to pay specific attention to specific causes, the
Speaker 3: support dwindles. That's why people spend so much money to
Speaker 3: keep people's focused and attention and awareness or things that
Speaker 3: they want people to be supportive of, because by nature,
Speaker 3: the support and the attention will dissolve in some way.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you said that. I think that that
Speaker 1: is a very easy and a very natural conclusion to draw,
Speaker 1: And of course it's absolutely right. This is something that
Speaker 1: we've seen. But I want to add a couple of
Speaker 1: other things to that and get your thoughts on that
Speaker 1: as well, But first allow me to read this now.
Speaker 1: For this, I consulted with NBC News for my notes here.
Speaker 1: According to a national poll conducted by Civics, a non
Speaker 1: partisan online survey firm affiliated with the progressive media group
Speaker 1: Daily Costs, forty four percent of respondents said they oppose
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement. Another forty three percent said
Speaker 1: they support it. That means forty four percent oppose it,
Speaker 1: forty three percent supported, while eleven percent said they neither
Speaker 1: support nor oppose the survey has tracked respondents viewpoints at
Speaker 1: multiple moments from April twenty seventeen to this month. According
Speaker 1: to the poll, support for the Black Lives Matter movement
Speaker 1: peaked in June twenty twenty at fifty two percent, a
Speaker 1: month after George Floyd was killed. While eighty two percent
Speaker 1: of the respondents in support of Black Lives Matter is
Speaker 1: the most recent in the most recent poll sorry, while
Speaker 1: eighty five sorry. While eighty two percent of the respondents
Speaker 1: in support of Black Lives Matter in the most recent
Speaker 1: poll were black, more than half of those in opposition
Speaker 1: were white. In other words, black people supported Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter iter rate of eighty two percent, White people opposed
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter to the tune of over fifty percent,
Speaker 1: which reflects a pattern of public opinion when it comes
Speaker 1: to racial justice movements. This was according to Vita Robinson,
Speaker 1: the director for the Center for Critical Race Studies at
Speaker 1: the University of Houston Downtown. Robertson said, the findings reveal
Speaker 1: the historical phenomenon of the liberation struggles with Black Americans
Speaker 1: and civil rights movements from the Harlem Renaissance to the
Speaker 1: Black Power movement. And I want to pull this quote
Speaker 1: from her, these polls are quite representative of America's approach.
Speaker 1: Robertson said, there is no historical evidence whatsoever that America
Speaker 1: has ever been interested in black liberation and building an
Speaker 1: equitable society. We are simply coming to grips with our
Speaker 1: romantic ideas that are running up against our political realities.
Speaker 1: And the fact stands that America has constantly and will
Speaker 1: constantly struggle with the liberation of black bodies because we
Speaker 1: are endemically a racist society. Now, something that I wanted
Speaker 1: to add to your statement is a visibly visible, well defined,
Speaker 1: deliberate opposition to black lives matter. You know, it was
Speaker 1: just talking about the young women from Arizona State University.
Speaker 1: The white student male student, one of the two white
Speaker 1: male students in the video. If you want to check
Speaker 1: it out again, it's on our our social media. At
Speaker 1: civic Cipher had a sticker on his laptop that said
Speaker 1: police Lives Matter, and that was part of what he
Speaker 1: was pointing toward the women who were studying there in
Speaker 1: attempts to intimidate them and harass them. Police Lives Matter
Speaker 1: is one of the things that grew in opposition to
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, the same as all lives matter. You know,
Speaker 1: that flag thing wasn't popularized until twenty twenty. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean critical race theory. I mean there are
Speaker 1: people that send their children to school because they want
Speaker 1: their children to learn, but not that. And you can
Speaker 1: see how well this opposition well defined, very very precise.
Speaker 1: It is white supremacy. Not to pick on it. It
Speaker 1: deserves to be picked on, but not to pick on it.
Speaker 1: Certain systems are built to preserve themselves, white supremacy being
Speaker 1: one of them. You know, we could talk about white
Speaker 1: being the one, the one, yeah, but we could talk
Speaker 1: about a lot of systems that you know, they they're
Speaker 1: designed with self preservation in mind, and that's why they
Speaker 1: continue to orbit on their own access. You know, they
Speaker 1: continue to exist and continue to you know, we could
Speaker 1: talk about a lot a lot of things. But you know,
Speaker 1: white supremacy empowers powerful people and compels them to retain
Speaker 1: all of the power and all of the money when
Speaker 1: you mix it with capitalism, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: fortunately there is that forty one percent that's still stands
Speaker 1: and support a Black Lives matter. And fortunately there's a
Speaker 1: good number of those folks who are white, and you know,
Speaker 1: perhaps nearly enough, right, But that goes to show how
Speaker 1: effective these I mean, it's easy to pick on Fox
Speaker 1: News because they make it so easy, but you know
Speaker 1: they're not the only ones. And what we don't have
Speaker 1: the same resources. I'm talking about black people specifically as
Speaker 1: a Fox News as you know, in terms of a
Speaker 1: way to challenge critical race theory or challenge the opponents
Speaker 1: of critical race theory. But we do have this show,
Speaker 1: and we have people that listen to this show, people
Speaker 1: who are not black. You know, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a black show, but make no mistake, this is
Speaker 1: a black show for non black people.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why you're listening to this show wherever you're listening
Speaker 1: to it, if you're listening on the radio. We think
Speaker 1: that in spaces like this we can create stronger and
Speaker 1: more empowered allies by sharing this information. We feel like
Speaker 1: you listening to Q andized voice, oh sorry, mine and
Speaker 1: Q's voice today, we'll be able to take this information
Speaker 1: and understand what the path forward should be. Conceivably, we
Speaker 1: need to combat this active opposition to a statement that
Speaker 1: in theory should just be a statement of fact. But
Speaker 1: it's controversial. Somehow black lives matter because I believe a
Speaker 1: good amount of this erosion has come from right wing
Speaker 1: media in the form of moderates who are you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: if they see something they're gonna be upset by something
Speaker 1: like the George Floyd video, they're gonna be upset by it.
Speaker 1: But you know, if enough of these folks on the
Speaker 1: right get in their ear and say, you know, critical
Speaker 1: race theory is indoctrinating your children to hate themselves, what
Speaker 1: in the world does that mean. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: teach anyone to hate themselves. It doesn't teach my children
Speaker 1: to pity themselves. It's the reality of the situation, so
Speaker 1: that we don't repeat it anymore. But let the right
Speaker 1: people frame it the right way and get that message out.
Speaker 1: Then we end up with at least a piece of this,
Speaker 1: in my belief, erosion coming from that source. And what
Speaker 1: you as a listener of this show and an ally
Speaker 1: to black and brown and indigenous and any marginalized people,
Speaker 1: and you, as a person who wants to bring a
Speaker 1: little bit of balance to the universe and to follow
Speaker 1: the moral arc of of this existence, you the listener,
Speaker 1: can combat this by having conversations about this, because that's
Speaker 1: a lot more powerful than Fox News. It's a lot
Speaker 1: more challenging as well. But we want you to do
Speaker 1: that and we need you to do that. We need
Speaker 1: you to know that this is a real thing. We
Speaker 1: as Q mentioned, we knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1: We knew this was going to happen. And that's why
Speaker 1: we did our best to capture the moment and do
Speaker 1: something with it. And our contribution to the moment that
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty has birthed this show. And for folks
Speaker 1: listening to us in Vermont and you know, in Florida
Speaker 1: and in California, and you know, whatever state you're in
Speaker 1: or city you're in, listening to our voices, hopefully our
Speaker 1: contribution will be these conversations that we're asking you to have.
Speaker 1: We will have them, and then we ask that you
Speaker 1: have them as well, because the reality of the fact
Speaker 1: is that now there are less people in support of
Speaker 1: black lives mattering, and we are black lives that I'm
Speaker 1: going to wake up tomorrow and I'm still going to
Speaker 1: be black. My children are going to wake up tomorrow,
Speaker 1: They're going to be black. And according to these numbers,
Speaker 1: it says.
Speaker 3: Most people.
Speaker 1: Would disagree with a statement suggesting that their lives matter.
Speaker 1: Life is a beating heart. You understand that. So this
Speaker 1: is a reality that we knew about. As Q mentioned,
Speaker 1: we knew this. This doesn't hurt the way that it
Speaker 1: does when you're first figuring it out. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it ever really hurts. It's just sort
Speaker 1: of reality that you were born numb to and you're
Speaker 1: still numb to. It's sad. I know it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I do my best to you know, encourage people
Speaker 1: and uplift people that I know are in similar predicaments.
Speaker 1: They might look like me, they might not, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, we have our own therapy sessions, and
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, I put little crowns under
Speaker 1: the Instagram photos and Facebook photos of little black kids
Speaker 1: and black men and whoever I see that might be
Speaker 1: able to use a little bit of brightness in their
Speaker 1: day to let them know that they're valuable and that
Speaker 1: they're special.
Speaker 3: And I noticed that and adopted that as well. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've noticed. Yeah, but something that you said
Speaker 3: that you said that we're born numb to it, and
Speaker 3: that part isn't true.
Speaker 1: Okay, so help me say we're.
Speaker 3: We're born We're born knowing that it's the truth. Okay,
Speaker 3: but the numbness isn't natural. Right. You've seen our kids play.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: One of the first videos that I've ever taken of Grayson,
Speaker 3: we were at Top Golf in Las Vegasy. We went
Speaker 3: out to visit Grayson's uncle Nick. Shout out to Nick.
Speaker 1: Bean, and.
Speaker 3: A little Asian girl from a couple bays down just
Speaker 3: ran down and gave Graceon a hug. And there were
Speaker 3: no strange, weird negative responses from this girl's parents. The
Speaker 3: parents of that baby thought it was just as amazing
Speaker 3: and precious as we did. And that's one of those
Speaker 3: moments where you realize, or you're reminded that not everyone
Speaker 3: subscribes to that ignorance, but you're also reminded, but damn
Speaker 3: a lot of people do. And there are parents who
Speaker 3: would have been terrified to see their child run down,
Speaker 3: their daughter run down and hug my black son. And
Speaker 3: there will be a moment, I am certain that there
Speaker 3: will be a moment where either my son or his
Speaker 3: dad is going to be reminded that there are people
Speaker 3: who do not want their children to love, care about,
Speaker 3: play with, hug, kiss, or have any type of relationship
Speaker 3: or interaction with my black and Mexican son prove positive
Speaker 3: by the tens of millions of people that try to
Speaker 3: re elect a man whose entire base, foundation and campaign
Speaker 3: was run on stoking the fire of divisive racism in
Speaker 3: this country. So you're not born numb to it. Things
Speaker 3: happen that remind you that it's true, and you somehow
Speaker 3: find yourself feeling stupid for being so naive, as as
Speaker 3: if to believe or think that we'd made some progress
Speaker 3: or that it had gone away, or that it wasn't
Speaker 3: going to be the case with you. So we know
Speaker 3: that it exists, but that numbness is developed, and it's
Speaker 3: developed through disappointment and hurt and pain and anger and fear.
Speaker 3: Right we're the ones who are actually afraid initially, you know,
Speaker 3: we keep painting this picture where these cops are so
Speaker 3: afraid of us. They're not afraid, like you said, they're
Speaker 3: shooting people in the back that are running away from them.
Speaker 3: That's not fear, that's hate. And our fear and anger
Speaker 3: at some point turns into numbness because we continue to
Speaker 3: perpetually experience the worst things that this country has to offer,
Speaker 3: and we still have to stand when they play that
Speaker 3: anthem with our hands in our hearts and be proud
Speaker 3: of it, or get out and go back to our
Speaker 3: whole countries.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not wrong, You're you're in fact, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: But the good news is that there's always so there's
Speaker 1: some people who are a conspiracy theorists, and I'm adopting
Speaker 1: the term I'm a positivity theorist. I you know, I
Speaker 1: just I feel like we're going to get there. This
Speaker 1: is our journey, this is our journey, and this is
Speaker 1: our this is our story, you know, for better or worse.
Speaker 1: And what we're going to do is appeal once again
Speaker 1: to everyone listening to our voice. Continue to have challenging,
Speaker 1: difficult conversations, to unindoctrinate those who have been indoctrinated to
Speaker 1: oppose very very simple, logical, linear things. And you know, uh,
Speaker 1: spread love, man, just just spread love. It's we need
Speaker 1: you to do that. Please. Before we move on, I
Speaker 1: wanted to say the name Filando Castile, who, if you
Speaker 1: listened to the first half of the show, was the
Speaker 1: gentleman who was shot in the front seat of his
Speaker 1: car by police after letting them know explaining that he
Speaker 1: had a gun on his person. And was filmed by
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, so it's important to say his name, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I got that in there.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Alexander Dumas.
Speaker 3: All right, So.
Speaker 1: I was watching the movie The Harder They Fall recently
Speaker 1: and it was such a good movie, and I recognized
Speaker 1: that it's kind of like the type of movie that
Speaker 1: you don't see very often, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know that, but westerns. I don't watch westerns, so maybe
Speaker 1: it's just me who knows. And then I got to thinking,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Jango is kind of like a Western.
Speaker 1: You know, it's in my memory at the time it
Speaker 1: took place in the South, but Djengo is a cowboys,
Speaker 1: same as you know these guys, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: an old timey western flip. There's a bunch of horses
Speaker 1: and shotguns. So I'm like, let me revisit Jango and
Speaker 1: see if I enjoy it in the same way that
Speaker 1: I enjoyed Harder They Fall. And toward the end of
Speaker 1: the movie something stood out to me. So in the movie,
Speaker 1: there's a man named d'Artagnan. He's a slave, and Leonardo
Speaker 1: DiCaprio's character says that he wants to have his dogs
Speaker 1: rip d'Artagnan apart. d'Artagnan attempted to run away, and that's
Speaker 1: what happens to him. The dogs eat him and terremark.
Speaker 1: Later in the DiCaprio's character realizes that d'Artagnan was the
Speaker 1: name from one of Alexander Dumas's books, The Three Musketeers, Right,
Speaker 1: and that book was written by a black author. Right,
Speaker 1: So he read this book, obviously loved the character named
Speaker 1: one of his slaves after a character in the book,
Speaker 1: and then found out that the author was was was
Speaker 1: not a white person. The author was black and would
Speaker 1: not have approved of the way the d'Artagnan in the
Speaker 1: movie met his end, and you can see him coming
Speaker 1: to terms and they're like, wow, I had no idea
Speaker 1: that black people could aspire to that. And if you
Speaker 1: see the film, for those who haven't seen, if you
Speaker 1: see the film, you'll see how it comes together because
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio's character did not think highly of black skinned
Speaker 1: people based on bogus science of the time that was
Speaker 1: not founded in any reality whatsoever, but allowed folks at
Speaker 1: that period in this country's history to justify slavery that
Speaker 1: in the Bible Furthermore, my older son has to read
Speaker 1: The Three Musketeers for like a high school project he's
Speaker 1: working on right, which is a book by Alexander Dumas,
Speaker 1: And so in brief I wanted to share a bit
Speaker 1: about Alexander Dumas or our way Black history fact. He
Speaker 1: was born the twenty fourth of July eighteen oh two
Speaker 1: and died December fifth, eighteen seventy. He was a French writer.
Speaker 1: His works have been translated into many languages, and he
Speaker 1: is one of the most widely read French authors. Many
Speaker 1: of his historical novels of high adventure were originally published
Speaker 1: as serials, including The Count of Monte Cristo that's him.
Speaker 1: The Three Musketeers, of course, twenty years after and ten
Speaker 1: years Later is another one. His novels have been adapted
Speaker 1: since the early twentieth century into nearly two hundred films,
Speaker 1: prolific and several genres. Dumas began his career by writing plays,
Speaker 1: which were successfully produced from the first He also wrote
Speaker 1: numerous magazine articles and travel books. His published works totaled
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand pages. In the eighteen forties, Dumas founded
Speaker 1: the Theater Historic in Paris. His father, General Thomas Alexander
Speaker 1: Dumas Davy de la Pollietari was born in the French
Speaker 1: colony of Saint Domingue present day Haiti, and he was
Speaker 1: born to Alexander and Antoine David de Lapierte, a French noble,
Speaker 1: and Marie Sessette Dumas, an African slave. Sorry these names.
Speaker 1: Dumas died on December fifth, eighteen seventy, at his son's
Speaker 1: home in Puisse, France. He was buried in the cemetery
Speaker 1: of Viller's Cultritz. In two thousand and two, his body
Speaker 1: was moved to the Pantheon in Paris, where Dumas rests
Speaker 1: among other such French literary greats like his rival Victor Hugo,
Speaker 1: Emil Zola and Jean Jacques Rousseau. Alexander Dumas will finally
Speaker 1: take his place beside Victor Hugo and Emil Zola, his
Speaker 1: brothers in literature, said President President Jacques Chirac. With you,
Speaker 1: it is childhood, hours of reading, relished in secret, emotion, passion, adventure,
Speaker 1: panache that enter the Patheon with you. We dreamed with you,
Speaker 1: we still dream and I thought it was important to
Speaker 1: celebrate that because or to discussed that because a lot
Speaker 1: of times we associate literature with white faces, especially literature
Speaker 1: like this, you know, think Shakespeare, you know, think, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that comes to mind. You know, when
Speaker 1: you think of like a literary great, a lot of
Speaker 1: times you don't imagine there being a black face, and.
Speaker 3: Especially when the adaptations of those literary works play out
Speaker 3: the way that they have. See the Three Musketeers, that
Speaker 3: the Count Montes Crisco, the actors, the characters, everyone in
Speaker 3: the story is white. So who whatever think that the
Speaker 3: creator of such stories looked like us?
Speaker 1: And so sharing that beyond just a little fun fact
Speaker 1: in a movie that you might have picked up, I
Speaker 1: thought that was important. Representation matters, you know, our ebony excellence.
Speaker 1: Today we talked about Aaron Jackson from Florida becoming the
Speaker 1: first black woman to win the five hundred meter World
Speaker 1: Cup title, and you know, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: firsts you know, across the board. You know, representation matters.
Speaker 1: And obviously Alexander Dumas is not the first black writer,
Speaker 1: the first black literary great, but certainly one who has
Speaker 1: maybe not deliberately been whitewashed, but just as a result
Speaker 1: of film adaptations, and things like that. You know that
Speaker 1: part of his story has never really made it, like
Speaker 1: he himself as the author that has never really made
Speaker 1: it into our shared public consciousness, the author of Monte Cristo.
Speaker 3: You're so gracious, You're so gracious and kind and charitable.
Speaker 3: The idea that he was not deliberately whitewashed, I said,
Speaker 3: perhaps not. I didn't know that until today.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why we have a show like this, and
Speaker 1: that's why we're so.
Speaker 3: Not deliberately as laughable. Of course it's deliberate perhaps.
Speaker 1: But the point is that we do have a place
Speaker 1: where we're able to celebrate him as an author, and
Speaker 1: we're able to write our own stories, tell our own stories.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's exceptionally important. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that we had a chance to do it, and we're
Speaker 1: obviously very glad that you, our listener, has blessed us
Speaker 1: with your time. So with that said, we're going to
Speaker 1: end it right here once again. I'm your host, Ramsy's Joh.
Speaker 3: I am his co host Quentin Ward, And be sure
Speaker 3: to hit the website citycipher dot com to download this
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Speaker 1: And we are going because you and until next week,
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