1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Almost 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: in his podcast. Today, I am joined by my friend 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: Jill Chen. She and I are going to be breaking 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: down Bachelor Nation headlines. Jill, I love doing headlines with 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: you because you are in the know with some of 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: the people of the current cast a little bit more 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Jared and I. Yes, and but Ben and I as well. 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Ben and me and I want to start out with 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: your knowledge about one of your friends in a new relationship. 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: It was a friend that you had one time had 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: a bit of a flirtation with who Tyler Norris. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't think we had a flirtation. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: Oh, he was going to come visit you in Newport 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: and then he like failed to hang out with guys, 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: and then you guys are and then you were like, no, 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: never mind. 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Also because Jacob Jacob said nope, Jacob and. 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: You were trying to find a backup date or something. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm trying to find a backup like, Yeah, I don't 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: think it was I don't know if it was a 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't think it was a flirtation, but it was 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: just like I do love him, dearly and he has 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: a good friend currently like to this day, so he 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: is in the headlines. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: He has a new relationship with a girlfriend named Alyssa. Now, listen, 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: we were just talking you guys in our recap of 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: The Bachelor in Paradise finale about how like nobody hard 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: launched on Instagram the night the night of the finale, 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: and that like, we have these people, we see them 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: get engaged and then they don't post a picture together 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: the next day and they're posting other things and it 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: just seems fishy. But of all people, Tyler did hard 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: launch this week, So tell us what you know. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: So did he hard launch on just his stories or 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: did he hard launch on the main. 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: What do you mean versus this story? It was a story. 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: It was a story he shared a video with and 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: she's in it and it says every room needs a 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: Christmas Tree and he and her are slow dancing to 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: the song Blue Ain't Your Color by Keith Urban and 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: he kisses her on the cheeks. So it's definitely a 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: hard launch. 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like for sure, But I does really count 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: of it's not on the feed, no, and of course 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: it does count, Like I think it's more of like, 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a medium launch. It's not a harder soft, 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: it's like a medium you know. I don't know if 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: he tagged her either, but people, I think know who 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: she is because they they may have also seen her 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: in a previous leak earlier. So do you remember were 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: you aware of the little oop see that happened regarding 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: an ad that they both were in together. 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: She was in an ad with him a couple of 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: weeks ago. 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Yes, so okay, so when he. 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: Was still on the show and like dating Mercedes show. 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Yes, So I guess I don't know who what manager 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: messed up up on that one, but I think she 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: has maybe a little bit of a social media following. 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: And this ended up like on redit Reality. Zachary like 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: picked it up, you know, like all of the channels 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: were like, oh my god, like this is Tyler Norris, 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: Like this is him, and this is a girl who 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: says my boyfriend her act. Yes, but it was like 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: it was like a creator generated content whatever it was, 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: like the brand posted it themselves, okay, and so she 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: made this content. She's like, my boyfriend and I are 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: trying some new snacks. And the boyfriend was Tyler Norris. 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: So so everyone was like, what the hell, Like, Tyler, 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be dating Mercedes, like you're on the show, 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: Like this is weird, no way, and it's And turns 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: out it's the same girl that's in this video. 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Super interesting, you're a good detective. You and vassroonation great. 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was just like oh, at first, 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, maybe. 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like an acting It's like it's just 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: the ad. 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just an acting thing. It's the same girl. 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 3: It's the same girl. 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: So now we know, yeah, okay, so yeah, there they are. 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: That is a thing. Yes, and they're cute. 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: They seem cute yeaheah, they seems happy, he's happy. The 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: other Bachelor in Paradise Bachelor couple actually that did that 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: did hard launch is Brydon is Dan and Christina Mandrell, 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: who we will remember from Zach season as a as 88 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: the single mom and she was a little she was 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: a little kookie. She ended up leaving because Zach was like, 90 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I could be a stepdad, right, that 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: was one of the reasons he gave her. Yeah, it 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: was pretty honest that he was there, or like, yeah, 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: didn't she also. 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: Like a breakdown. Didn't she get in some beef with 95 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: somebody else? 96 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just a little bit of a drama queen. 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: And she was only there for like two or three weeks. 98 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was only Yeah, she was one of those. 99 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: Did she the first impression Rose? No, Okay, she just 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: made a big splash on night one. I remember she 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: made a big splash. 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know she did. I remember they had some 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: good time together night one, and then she got a 104 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: date she got she met his family. 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Ah, your memory is so good. 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure for the family. And then there was liked, 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: there was some drama after that, like I remember her 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: saying help me, help me, help me or something by 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: the pool and Zaxy. Yeah. So there was like some 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: weird stuff that happened, and it kind of reminded me 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: of Cassidy from my season, like someone who just goes 112 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: like so hard and so fast they burned themselves out 113 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: like immediately, like it's just like too much. So her 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: and Branden are in this relationship. But I'm like, Okay, 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: why wasn't she just on paradise. She wasn't on paradise. 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Was she asked to do Paradise. I don't know. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh, but like that just seems kind of like a 118 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: no brainer character for Paradise for sure. 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: I feel like she was definitely must have been asked. 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: Well. 121 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: I think like she's from Nashville. I remember that she's 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: like Tennessee. He lives in San Diego. I wonder how 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: they're keeping that up. But they're involving her daughter, you know, 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: he knows her. And we see a little clip at 125 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: the end of The Bachelor in Paradise finale where jokes 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: Brandon is teaching Christina's daughter how to acsissorize. This is 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: something that we would have loved a reunion show for us, 128 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: that we could hear their story or eat them on 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: the podcast. 130 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, right exactly. I think that that's like a 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: funny couple to me. I think they're both like really 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: kind of out there. I Braiden is like such a 133 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: a loose cannon. I feel like I just never know 134 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: where he's gonna go. And that really is knowing that 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: they're in a relationship. 136 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: Dude, they must be wild together. 137 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: They must be wild. I mean it was really fun, 138 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: but that was just like confusing to me as to 139 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: why she just was on the show and why we 140 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: couldn't have maybe just seen this happen. 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if she was on the show, they would 142 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: have actually left together. I know there's so many questions, 143 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: but they would have had more hurdles. I'm sure. 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure they were, yes, but it would have been 145 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: entertaining for me to watch. 146 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ultimately, let's let's stick with the Bachelor and Paradise stuff. 147 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Bachelor of Paradise is cat defense herself. After we call 148 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: a homie hopper, you're a little bit more gen Z 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: than me. What the heck is a homie hopper? 150 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: Like you go from guy to guy? 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well she did kind of go from guy to 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: guy on the show. 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: Yes she did, and she did, and there's something wrong 154 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: with that, and I think I believe it was was 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: a TikTok that she was doing. Yeah, so she did 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: the TikTok and she was like, well, why am I 157 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: a homihopper? When a guy does it, he's like exploring 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: his options or playing the field. You know. 159 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good point. 160 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: Like I entirely agree with that. There are some guys 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: who would have a new girl every weekend. It would 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: be fine, you know, there's a double standard there for sure. 163 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 164 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: I think that that was just like an easy target 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: for people to come after her for I think she 166 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: was just an easy target at one point, you know, 167 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: to kick someone when they're down, and that was one 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: of the things that maybe stuck. 169 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: M Yeah, that was what hurt her. Yeah, okay, let's 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: get into Golden Bachelor drama. What was your take? This 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: is your overall take last week with the finale, so. 172 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: Ah my god, it was like part of his heartbreaking. 173 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: I feel like Gary was really good the whole season 174 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: and then he almost kind of fumbled the bag for me. 175 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: You know me too. 176 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: Oh, Like you're really gonna say I think it's you. 177 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: You know you're the one? Yeah, the one? 178 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well no, what, like no wonder she 179 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: was so upset like that is and because as as 180 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: someone who not has been in that position but has 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: been on the show and only knows one side, what 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: you see of the lead is minuscule. 183 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: So if they tell you something, you believe it. 184 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I've been saying it all season long. 185 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: But he does a lot of stuff that because he's 186 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: like adorable, Like Gary's great. I'm not not saying that 187 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: he's not, like he totally is, but at seventy one 188 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: and being like all like shucks about everything, he's getting 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: away with stuff that like a thirty one year old 190 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: would never get away with. Could you imagine if a 191 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: thirty one year old lead said you're the one and 192 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: didn't know her at his. 193 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: Big age like that is But also it kind of 194 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: reminds me, and maybe she'll remind all of us that 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: men are gonna be the same regardless of what age. 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: Because he's making a lot of the mistakes that a 197 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: lot of bachelors make, saying I love you to multiple people, 198 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, the you know, kissing whoever, telling someone this 199 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: and doing the other thing. It always happens. And I 200 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: feel like maybe he was so in the moment. Maybe 201 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: he could blame his age and he forgot you know. 202 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: But well no, his whole defense was that in the moment, 203 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: I felt that with you, and then it changed and 204 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: I felt it for someone else, which is sad, and 205 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: I just how did that change so significantly? 206 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: So fat? I don't know, Like it's like when you 207 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: have something in front of you, you're like, oh my god, 208 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: this is the best, Like I understand being in that position, 209 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: and then also thinking okay, well maybe the grass is greener, 210 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: but when you're dealing with someone's emotions, you're dealing with 211 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: someone's heart, come on, you have. 212 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: To feel quiet. Just be a little bit just I know, 213 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: I know that. Leslie was like, I rather you said 214 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: I love you. I'm glad you said I love you, 215 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: but like there's you can say I love you, which 216 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: I actually like was like, okay, that's fine, and so 217 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: many have done that before, but the telling the person 218 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: that you're the one that was actually a step above. 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: That was my biggest like, oh my gosh, that's really yeah, 220 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: that's a sin in Bachelor Nation. 221 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: And that's something we saw. She even said, like in 222 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: the fantasy suite, we said things that I won't even 223 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: say because like that was intended to be private, but 224 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: I bet you got even more intense. 225 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh I bet it did. Of course, I bet they 226 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: were planning, you know, where they're going to live. They're 227 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: probably planning all this stuff, like for sure, I you know, 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: so obviously she was the first fantasy suite. And then 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: because sometimes they mix up the order, and then right Teresa. 230 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, we know that she was the first 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: fantasy suite because remember Teresa was like, I can tell 232 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: that he's thinking about her from last night, so that 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: was actually her hometowns weren't an order. We learned from 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: the ladies when we were interviewing with the Bachelor Mansion 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: that those were in order. But that does bring us 236 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: to our first headline with Golden Bachelor, and it says 237 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Leslie claims that Gary made plans with me for the future. 238 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: He made plans with me for the future, kind of 239 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: like save the date, kind of like what we're gonna do. 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: I can't wait for us two more days, will be 241 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: done with this, be together, start our lives. Did he 242 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: say will you marry me? In there? No? But he 243 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: all but said that. I mean I would have been 244 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: very happy with Jess, I love you, but he took 245 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: it to a whole other level. 246 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: That's heartbreaking. 247 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: You're making plans with what. 248 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: You can't do that, especially when you have when you 249 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: know you have another fantasy suite. No way you should 250 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: you be doing that, Like he knows that he could 251 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: potentially feel this way about Theresa. And if you, if 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: you're so sure on Leslie, then get to Resa out here. 253 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Since there is a home, right you think that perhaps 254 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: this was like a mistake made because he never went 255 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: through the main show. Yeahause normally we have somebody who 256 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: kind of goes through training and knows how it feels 257 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: like to be on the other side. 258 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: Yes, and I've said this time and time again that 259 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: maybe not maybe not publicly, but I do feel like 260 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: to be a lead, you have to go to fantasy suites. 261 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: You have to get there and know what it feels 262 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: like before you can be a lead. Because I can 263 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: get with that, like there are or at least take 264 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: like really copious notes because you knowing that you have 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: another fantasy suite lined up, and making all these promises 266 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: and then going through with that fan like that second 267 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: fantasy suite knowing full well what you said to Leslie 268 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: is wild. Like that broke my heart for Leslie, maybe 269 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: like Carrie you dog, like you dirty dog. 270 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: I know I need to know how his relationship with 271 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: has been with Teresa. 272 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: This week, I feel. 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: The craziest week for their relationship, like way to put 274 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: it to the test, because not only does she see 275 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: the episode see that he had such strong feelings the 276 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, you know, she saw the fantasy 277 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: suite with Leslie and knew that she had he had 278 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: such strong feelings for first and then he said all 279 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: this stuff. Yeah, and then it comes out that like 280 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: there's all those claims about miscellaneous things about how fast 281 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: he jumped into a relationship and you know how he 282 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: had a relationship, which is really probably the big thing. 283 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: And it may not necessarily be Gary's issue. It could 284 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: be the show wanting us to believe that I agree 285 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: he that he like went from his wife and now 286 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: he's finding another great love and then like he didn't 287 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: date anywhere in between, so like giving him the benefit 288 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: of the doubt, where it was like maybe he was 289 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: in the interview room being like, oh I dated then 290 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: and this happened with her, and then they're like, okay, 291 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: but let's focus on Tony. You know I could hear 292 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: that happening. 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: I could too. And there was also some like random 294 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: allegations of like, hey, didn't own a restaurant. It's like 295 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: I don't care what he did in the eighties to 296 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: my honest, like. 297 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: It's our next headline. Shall we talk about it? 298 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 299 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Okay. So he's responded to allegations that he misrepresented his 300 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: career before going on the Bachelor. Listen The Bachelor. The 301 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: franchise loves to misrepresent people's careers everybody, so it's not 302 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: like this is just him. You know, we have fake 303 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: there's fake professions underneath our names all the time. So 304 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: it says that when Turner seventy two was as the 305 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: inaugural Bachelor Golden Bachelor, his career was listed as retired. 306 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: Prior he claimed to have worked as a restaurant tour 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: and owned multiple eateies. The business I owned was very 308 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: much like Cadillac, was very much like the Cadillac diner 309 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: that Teresa and I went on our first date to. 310 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: This is what he said to Katie Curic in an 311 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: interview that was published last week, referencing they're one on one, 312 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: he goes, I sold burgers and fries and shakes, and 313 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: it was very profitable business. He continued to say that 314 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: the comments about what I did later in life, that 315 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: was like he was doing like handyman work and stuff. 316 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: I did those after I retired. I retired at fifty five, 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: and I was very happy giving back to the community 318 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: and doing things that were worth something to other people. Yeah, 319 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: because I can. I can get behind this. If you 320 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: retire at fifty five and you're able to retire at 321 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: fifty five. Wow, that's incredible. And he obviously did make 322 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: a ton of money from his franchise to be able 323 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: to do that. Here a lot of people and it's 324 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: like not always like super healthy to like just stop 325 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: at fifty five and then not work at all. That 326 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: you have to involve yourself in something. 327 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And I also feel like I heard 328 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: somebody say, like, well, his LinkedIn said this, Maybe he 329 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: doesn't know how to use LinkedIn. He is not updating 330 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: his LinkedIn from the eighties. You know. I just feel 331 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: like that's it's like a cheap shot that doesn't do 332 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: anything for me, Like I don't really care. It's not 333 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: like I don't know. It's not like he was embezzling 334 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: or he's not. 335 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: You know, there's no time, no crime is committed there 336 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: there with his career. Yeah. Now something a little bit 337 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: more scandalous, I'll admit is our next headline says Golden 338 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: Bachelor Gary Turner's ex accuses him of fat shaming and 339 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: lying about his dating history. Like we said, lying with 340 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: dating history. It could go either way. It could have 341 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: been the show not wanting to talk about anything other 342 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: than his wife. What's your just take, general take? Does 343 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: that have curiosity? Like, like the allegations say he started 344 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: dating someone like within three months of Tony dying, How 345 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: do you feel about that? Jared and I? Jared and 346 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: I had a bit of a debate about it, like 347 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: I would literally come and murder him from the other 348 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: side first he started dating someone after like forty something years. 349 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: But then I also talk to people that are like, 350 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: that's what men do. A lot of men do that, 351 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: and it's like no offense to their wife, but like 352 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: they need the emotional support after always having it for 353 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: so long. 354 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: They do. And I so I look at it in 355 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: a sense where Okay, when I want my husband like 356 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: what I wanted to grieve, Yeah, honestly yes, because that's 357 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: the type of person I am, Like I need you 358 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: to grieve me, but I need you to be sad 359 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: like selfishly, yes, like have show how miserable you are, 360 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: dressed in black for forever, Like did maybe die of 361 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: a broken heart? Like you know that's just who I am. 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: Please he book me like I will. 363 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: Die of broken heart. But I know that men throughout history, 364 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, because I'd be knowing history. I'm researching houses 365 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm seeing, Oh, his wife died and he married the 366 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: sister a couple months later. It happens. It happens. But 367 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: so you know, in modern times, what I like to 368 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: see a little more of a grieving period. Sure is 369 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: that realistic? I don't know. But I also think about 370 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: grief and I like, I think about when my cat 371 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: died earlier this year and I got a cat the 372 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: next month because I couldn't bear to be without an animal, 373 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: like you know, And I'm not saying that people are 374 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: like animals that. I'm saying that maybe like a distraction 375 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: is something that you need. I don't know. Yeah, I 376 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: don't think it's like a cardinal sin. I think people 377 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: handle grief differently. I don't think that For me, that 378 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: wasn't it was like, you know, I'm not going to 379 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: get into his business that. 380 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's get back to the headline, which is 381 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: the fat shaming, which yeah, I mean, this is heavy. 382 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: It's heavy. So the woman that he ended up dating 383 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: after Tony died, within like a year or so of 384 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: their dating and living together, he said, I'm not taking 385 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: you allegedly said I'm not taking you to the reunion 386 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: looking like that and Caroline, who was is the pseudo 387 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: name that they're that's giving the outlet said that she 388 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: had recently gained ten pounds due to stress, and he 389 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: said that like because of the weight game, he wouldn't 390 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: bring her to some reunion. And when Gary was asked 391 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: about this, he said, my only response is that I 392 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: have so many positive things in my life right now, 393 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: and I have the wonder the wonderful love of Teresa, 394 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: my partner, and I don't have time to reflect on 395 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: comments like this, happy to look forward. 396 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: What So it wasn't like I never said that. It 397 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: was I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, ah, 398 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: that is that's disappointing, honestly. 399 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is interesting. I want to know what kind 400 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: of PR training he had there, Like did they say, like, 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: let's just if anything like that comes up, you say, 402 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm moving forward, I'm not talking about the past. 403 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: Well, because he didn't say that about the restaurant. He 404 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: clarified everything else really, and this thing he just kind 405 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: of accepted. He took the l on that was probably 406 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: bad PR training, like he should have just been consistent 407 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: either said no comment to everything or ye had a 408 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: little explanation. But that one is like that's tough. That's 409 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: like really sad. And I don't know, we talked with 410 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: so much about there. There's a lot of like talk 411 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: about body positivity within Bachelor Nation in and of itself 412 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: and like something that we as a society should be 413 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: striving towards, and it's it's a hot topic. And I 414 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: I think that men specifically should be respectful of women 415 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: as they are, you know, as a personal belief as 416 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: I you know, I just so that is really disappointing. Honestly. 417 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 3: I just wish that he gave a better answer so 418 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: I could forgive him. 419 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: But you know, like I'm just continuously wondering, like what 420 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: is going on into ESA's head this week? Oh my god, 421 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: she must be that poor woman, Like that's what because like, 422 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: is she freaked out that maybe she saw like the 423 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: perfect side of him and that now that there's like 424 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: another side that she may not get to know about 425 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: for like a year and then she's gonna marry this 426 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: man on January fourth? Or are we just all being 427 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: salacious now and like digging into these headlines And I 428 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: don't know, we don't even know the sores And I 429 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: don't know, do we just. 430 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: If you think about it, like, Okay, when we normally 431 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: have a bachelor, they're like thirty or younger, not much 432 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: time has elapsed in their life for things to go 433 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: wrong or not much time for growth, you know what 434 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like seventy that's a whole lot of stuff 435 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: that could come up. You know, maybe he should have 436 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: said he's grown, just say you've grown from it, Like 437 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel so bad for Terreesa because 438 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: she she's planning a wedding right now. 439 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's literally less than a month away. 440 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: Oh I got my heart, Like I would be freaking 441 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: out if I were her, and God bless her, but 442 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: like is this too soon? 443 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: I feel like yes, I feel like I'm shocked. Jesse 444 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: was like, it's going to be the most dramatic announcement 445 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: ever whatever it wasn't he didn't say ever, but that 446 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: we were all going to be shocked. And actually I 447 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: was quite shocked. January fourth, they have known each other 448 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: for less than five months and they're going to get married. 449 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: No, And I understand he's like a little at our 450 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 3: ange you never know and like okay, yes, but at 451 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: the same time, like there are when you when you 452 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: come out of Bachelor, like the Bachelor, Bachelor Paradise, and 453 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: you're even navigating new friendships. They evolved so much within 454 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: a year, and you see it resides to people that 455 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, maybe I wouldn't have Maybe I don't 456 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: want to explore this friendship because of some things I've seen, 457 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's like to have 458 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: a partner that you have just decided that you're just 459 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: gonna marry after being in this like crazy world and 460 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: only having your relationship exposed to the world for like 461 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 3: I don't know one second. Yeah, they agreed to the 462 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: wedding before they even got to air some grievances with 463 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: the world, you know. 464 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, everybody who I say, who I express concern 465 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: to about this, they're like they're old and they need 466 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: to they don't have that much time left and they 467 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: know when they know and all that. I'm like, I 468 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: don't know, guys, not that fast. Why get married? Like 469 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: why do you have to get married right now? Like 470 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm like such like a pro marriage person and like 471 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: I love it, and you know, I have positive, healthy 472 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: marriages all around me and my family. Yeah, but like normally, 473 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: like when you just at this age that they're at. 474 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: Totally cool, go get get married eventually, but like, you're 475 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: not about to have kids? 476 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: No, why, no reason? 477 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Why do we have to rush into the paperwork? 478 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Right? It's and it's the paperwork part of it that's 479 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 3: like the scary part. Sure the union is like a 480 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 3: nice thing, you know, it's a nice sentiment, but like 481 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: this is legally binding. 482 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: You know you being together at seventy as a boyfriend 483 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: and girlfriend is kind of adorable. 484 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: Right, just do that. And there are people in my 485 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: life that are just like forever engaged. They're like yeah, 486 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: because they're older, you know, this is their second marriage 487 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: or second relationship, you know, with a long term partner, 488 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: and they're just like, we're gonna be engaged for the 489 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: rest of our lives. We don't need to be married. 490 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't to be married. Just relax, Just relax, guys. Well, 491 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: we know why they are that the but we know 492 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: what the franchise wants to rush this wedding because the viewership, 493 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: they haven't had a live wedding in a long time. 494 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: I think they've basically like crossed it out by saying 495 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: that it's normally it's a wash Financially for them. But 496 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: they are having this is there. There's a golden couple 497 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: right now. They have gotten their finale six point one 498 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: million viewers and that was live whoa, that wasn't even 499 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: with the Hulu numbers and DVR numbers in there. 500 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: That's big. 501 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: That's huge, really big, really big. 502 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a cash cow you know, yes, yeap. And 503 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: it is enticing to have your dream wedding paid for. Yeah, damn, 504 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: they got them, They got them right what they want them. 505 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: Our last headline of the week is about one of 506 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: the most popular contestants of all time, Tyler Cameron. So 507 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: do you remember when Tyler and christ and Cavalari were 508 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: rumored to like have a thing, Because last year the 509 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: two of them went to dinner with like Jason and 510 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Caitlin on New Year's Eve. There was one other couple 511 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: there and it just seemed like a little like too, 512 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: like it was a couple dinner, not just like a 513 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: bunch of friends. And then there was them filming an 514 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: ad for her line Uncommon James in the middle of 515 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: Palm Springs, and everybody was wondering whether or not they 516 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: were hooking up or they were together at all, And 517 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: Kristen Cavalary seems to have confirmed that they did hook up. 518 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: This week on the Let's Be Honest podcast, somebody said, 519 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: who was the hottest guy You've ever been with? And 520 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: she said, Okay, this is funny. If I were just 521 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: doing it purely based on looks like every guy in 522 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: the lineup has nothing to do with chemistry or anything 523 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: like that, then the hottest visually is Tyler Cameron. And 524 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: believe it or not, you guys, I know this is 525 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: freaking hard to believe. He's hotter in person. It's insane. 526 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: It's insane. So yeah, TC for you, baby. Yes, guy 527 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: like doesn't like he just keeps murdering the game. 528 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: He really does. And it is pretty privileged. 529 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: And I'll say it, what do you mean, it's pretty 530 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: pretty privilege. 531 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: Yes, it's pretty privileged. Like he is he is very handsome, 532 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: like one of the most handsome men in Bachelor Nation 533 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: and apparently, I mean he transcends you know, a list celebrity. 534 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: Gigi had, Oh, I'm like, wow, Like he is in 535 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: the big leagues. He's in the league of his own, 536 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: really and I'm not sure, and you know, good for him. 537 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Jared and I were discussing a couple of days ago. 538 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: We're like, can you believe he was runner up to Jed? 539 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: Would never happen to me, would never happen. 540 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: It would never happened today. It never happened today, like Jaed. 541 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Before we wrap, Jill, tell us the headlines in your life. 542 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: You've been with your boyfriend Ellis for over a year, 543 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: like you been together for like a year and a 544 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: half now to tell us, no, that's not true. Okay, fine, 545 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: not a year and a half. A year and like 546 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: three months, two months? 547 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: No, our year anniversary is next week. No, really, yes, 548 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: we've only been to the year. So our year anniversaries 549 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: next week, and we're like trying to decide what we're 550 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: gonna do for it. And then I was also reminiscing, 551 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, I the last time I spoke 552 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: to Jacob was the right before I went on the 553 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: date with Ellis, like. 554 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: The day of like you closed the book and as 555 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: long as you get complete closure, it opens the book 556 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: for somebody. 557 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Else, like and I wasn't even it wasn't even like 558 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 3: closing the book. He was just like called me be 559 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: like I was like going like whatever. He was still 560 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: trying to be friendly and then and then I was like, 561 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: what are you doing right now? I said, oh, I'm 562 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: getting ready for a date like I was getting He's like, oh, okay, 563 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: well let me know how it goes. And I'm like, 564 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: shut up, asshole. I'm like, yeah here and then yeah, 565 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: that's the last time I spoke to him, And yeah. 566 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: And your mom set you up or you Yeah, mom 567 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: and Ellis's mom were the setup. Queen's here, so. 568 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: My mom and then like Ellis's dad's girlfriend who like 569 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: knew my mom, Like the parents really kind of set 570 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: us up, which is a funny story. And yeah, so 571 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: that's how that's how we ended up ended up meeting. 572 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: So any if you're out there and you're single, maybe 573 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: like ask your mom, Like I know she has probably 574 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: given you like a thousand duds before, but like there 575 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: could be a good one in there. So yeah, we 576 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: have been together for a year and I you know, 577 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: we're we're greatly, very hopeful. 578 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: Thank you very your guys are very serious. And we 579 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: have one other friend that that we share in Rhode 580 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: Island that we'll be hitting your screen sometime soon. I 581 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: think I can say that not saying her name, but 582 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: we have a friend who will be on, will be 583 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: on Joey season? Yeah, and we got the preview of 584 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: Joey season. We did and there's there's not a there's 585 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: not a lot there. It wasn't a lot. This an 586 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: extended video soon, I'm sure. 587 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm excited. Like every time I'm like, this is my 588 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: last time watching the show, something else comes. 589 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: In and have another friend come on. 590 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: I have another friend come on, and I am excited 591 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: to watch her journey. I'm I'm so excited. 592 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: We will recap another episode together when she's not with her, 593 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: we'll talk about her and then for the season we'll 594 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: have her on. All right, Jill, thank you so much 595 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: for doing this with us. It was really really fun 596 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: and I'll see you soon. 597 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 598 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Until next time. I've been, Ashley, I've been Jill Sia NYE. 599 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 600 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.