1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Brian Grodski. Thank 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: you guys for being here. So on this program, I 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: have talked a lot about politicians and taking them to task. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: People who pretend to be one thing in public and 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: in private are monsters. And I've mostly focused on my 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: own party, people like Corey Mills and Tony Gonzalez, who 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: just recently dropped out of his re election campaign. But 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: today I'm going to talk about a Democrat, one of 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the most deceitful people running for office this year. His 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: name is Graham Plattner, and he's running for the Democratic 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: nomination for the US Senate in Maine against incumbent Governor 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Jenna Mills in the primary and against Susan Collins, the 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: incumbent Center in the general. Potner has quickly become a 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: progressive Darling are in the endorsement of Bernie Sanders, Ruben Diego, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: David Hogg, gen Z for Change Our Revolution, and the 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Anti Israel track APAK. He's raised millions of dollars across 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the country, mostly from small dollar donors, close to eight 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: million more in the last quarter than either the governor 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: or the Senator. He's raised, and he's raised him on 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: the back of the campaign that he is a true 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: working class advocate, you know, and it's working. That plot, 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: that plan, that selling point is working. Right now. He's 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: got a very significant lead in the primary and a 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: smaller but respectful one in the general. In the last 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: six public poles, Platner led by an average of twelve 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: point five points against Janet Mills and three and a 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: half points against Susan Collins. Planners spent the majority of 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: his campaign really honing in on that working class image. 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: He's just an everyman, you know. He's the real version 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: of what Pete put to Judge and Beto O'Rourke and 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Tim Wallas and James tallergo pretend to be. He's speaking 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: to the masters. He's a veteran and he's an oyster farmer, 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: and he wants to know over and over again, I'm 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: just a veteran and an oyster farmer. And to his credit, 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: I will give him credit something. He did serve in 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the Iraq War. He signed up in two thousand and three, 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: stating to the New Report Public that even though he 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: protests the war before signing up, he's still signed up 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: to serve and went to combat he said his inspiration 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: for serving was he read a lot of Ernest Hemingway. 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: I just want you to hear that again. He read 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Ernest Hemingway at seventeen, and that's why he decided to 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: go to war in Iraq. Of course, being something of 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: an upstart and a fighter really came very easily to Platt. 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Very early in his yearbooks. Yearbook's perlative, he was known 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: as the most likely to start a revolution, and he 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: hid up a sign as yearbook stating free Kosovo, Chechnya, Kashmir, Palestine, 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: Kurdistan and Tibet. All of those are subjugated lands. They're 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: all just suffering from colonization. And he's anti colonization and 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: from the right bold age of seventeen. That's what he 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: wanted you to know about him. Now, he likes to 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: create the narrat that he was radicalized by his time 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: overseas fighting in Iraq, but clearly that's not true. He's 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: always been a Champagne socialist, and the keyword in there 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: is Champagne. We'll come back to in the second. Anyway, 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: he served for combat duties and he suffered from PTSD. 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: He went to college on the gi Build in twenty twenty, 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: he took over an oyster farm, which he says doesn't 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: earn a lot of money, but him and his wife 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: are able to get by over the nearly five thousand 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: dollars a month he receives in benefits as a disabled veteran. 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: That's about his blue collar as it gets right, veteran 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: oyster farmer. He's like the main version of Dan Connor 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: from Roseanne. He's just an all around working class guy. 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Only Graham doesn't come from any version of a hard 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: scrabbled existence. See when he went to primary school, he 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: went to a place called Hotchkiss, which is a private 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: boarding school in Lakeville, Connecticut, and then he went to 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: John Baptist Memorial. You may ask, wow, that sounds expensive. 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: You know that's a boarding school. Yeah, it was a 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: very expensive school in today's dollars. Lakeville currently costs over 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars a year, and from my best search, 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: John Baptist Memorial is about twelve five hundred, much more 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: reasonable than the first school, but still expensive. Not exactly 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: a place at a working class person can afford to 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: send their kids. And I get that it was years 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: ago because he's in I think he's forty one now, 78 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: but nonetheless it was expensive no matter when he went. See, 79 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Planner doesn't come from a working class background, despite all 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: the flannel that he wears in the campaign trail, His 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: grandfather was one of the world's most renowned architects and 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: interior designers. You could still buy his furniture and it 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: costs upwards of twenty thousand dollars per chair. His father 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: was also a very successful lawyer. Graham likes to cause 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: play that he is his underdog, and to a point, 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: he is against the governor and the Senator, but his 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: family has long standing political ties in Maine. It's not 88 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: a case of mister Smith goes to Washington. His father, 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: Bronson Planners, served as the assistant district attorney in Maine, 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: ran unsuccessfully for the state Senate, and chaired a board 91 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: of a local nonprofit that maintained close ties to the 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Senate majority leader, former Secretary of Defense, and former main governor. 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Plantner's rugged exterior should be offensive to working class people 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the same way it was offensive to black people that 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: in the day. In the early days of the movies, 96 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: white actors would put on black face pretending to be 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: something that they are not. How wealthy is Platner's family, 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: we don't know, but his father's wealthy enough they could 99 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: drop sixty thousand dollars to support Democratic candidates running for 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: office over the last fifteen years. And that doesn't even 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: include money he gave two local candidates running just in Maine. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: That's just federal candidates. Sixty grand in ten years. Not 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: many people can afford to do that unless they have 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: a lot of money, So the Working Class Act is 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: really a facade. Graham says he doesn't own any socks, 106 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: and he doesn't, but you really don't need to when 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: you likely have an inheritance. Look, I don't fault anyone 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: for making a lot of money. I don't fault anybody 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: for want to give that money to kids or protecting 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: their children. That's totally honorable and admirable. What I do 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: find something that needs to be held account is people 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: lying and lying all the time, which is i thing 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Graham seems to have a problem with. He has a 114 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: very unheal healthy relationship with the truth. Let's start with 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the Graham's infamous tattoo. Now, this is the story you 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: may have actually heard about Graham Plattner was revealed he 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: had a Nazi tattoo on his chest at the Nazi 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: skull and crossbones. It was called tunkoff. I believe this 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: way he pronounced it. It probably isn't, because you guys know, 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm not great at pronouncing things. He apologized. He said 121 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: he got another tattoo to cover it up. He said 122 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: he received the tattoo in two thousand and seven and 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: he was on leave in Croatia on a drunken night 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: with his military buddies, and he said that he was 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: totally unaware that it was that it had a connection 126 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: to Hitler and the Nazis, And he told pot Save 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: America he's covered up and he's not a secret Nazi. 128 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: He wants you to know I'm not a secret Nazi. 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: He also proclaimed during the podcast that he was a 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: World War Two with history buff, which is I figure 131 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: a World War Two issue buff might know you know 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: what the skull and crossbows meant. And he says that 133 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: he's been an anti fascist since he was twelve years old. 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: That seems hell for what a twelve year old should 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: be thinking about. I don't know you, I was a 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: twelve I was probably watching X Men. I don't really 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: think that I was thinking about fascism, but Graham Planner 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: once you know, he's been doing this for a long time. CNN, though, 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: reported that into as early as twenty twenty, Graham's friend 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: said that he described it as a Nazi styles had too, 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: But I'm sure that's just probably the only time Graham 142 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: seemed to connect himself with anti Jewish and authoritarianism, right, Like, 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: he couldn't possibly have more connections with people who were 144 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: anti Semitic and authoritarian wrong. See as recently as twenty 145 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: twenty one, when he was the ripe age of thirty six, 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Graham called himself a communist and a recreational drug user. 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: He said, I'm a vegetable growing, psychedelic tasting socialist these days, 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and then said, in fact, I got older and became 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: a communist. That would explain why. In recent videos, Graham 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: has said that the United States should be working in 151 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: cooperation with the Chinese Communist Party, not in opposition. You 152 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: know that regime, that government that puts their own citizens 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: in internment camps, forces abortion, it's like five minutes ago, 154 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: manipulates their currency, steals our ip and funds our enemies. 155 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: We should be working with them. That's Graham Platter's idea 156 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: foreign policy. We should just give them a big grand 157 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Platiner bear hug. It was while he was writing on 158 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: these he's see this is how you know, like he 159 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: like millennials as a generation. We're gonna have a rough 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: time running for office, most of us. Because he seemed 161 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: to love Reddit. He wrote on Reddit a lot, and 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: that's where he wrote those comments of being a communist. 163 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Now he has since said, listen, I'm not a communist. 164 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a socialist. I'm a small business owner. Don't 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: believe what I wrote on Reddit. I'm just a small 166 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: business owner. He's a small business owner of a business 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: that he doesn't draw a salary from. See nothing nothing 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: makes sense. Graham wasn't young when he wrote this. He 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a child. He was close to middle age when 170 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: he declared that he was a communist. And as he 171 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: gets older, he came more of a communist. And I 172 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: want you to remember he said communist, not democratic socialist. 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: He didn't align himself with like Bernie Sanders' ideology. He 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: said communism the ideology that killed sixty to one hundred 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: million people in the twentieth century. Communists. When you look 176 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: at the death toll, make Nazis look like child's play. 177 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Probably why his Nazi tattoo didn't bother him that much. 178 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: NBC News asked for him about this, and he said, 179 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about my evolution as a human being. 180 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: He said, a lot of Americans also want to have 181 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: the hope that you can change and you can evolve, 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: and then we can be in a society with grace 183 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and forgiveness to people. Because if we can't, if we 184 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: can't think of people as just ossified into who they 185 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: are right now and can ever be something different than 186 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: what's the point? This is such a nonsensical comment, right, 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: This wasn't This is from twenty twenty one. He wasn't 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: a teenager. I don't believe a fifteen year old should 189 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: be held a council for what they write on social 190 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: media for their whole entire life. You were thirty, dude, 191 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: You were not a kid. This is not a million 192 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: years ago. This was six years ago. But he does 193 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: you know all this evolving And apparently he hasn't evolved 194 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: from Graham's big Jewish question. See, Planner has a tendency 195 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: to just accidentally keep finding himself around people who really 196 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: don't like Jews, and it's not like they're you know, 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: they're coming to him. He somehow is finding them. In 198 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: January twenty twenty sixth a few months ago, he appeared 199 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: on a YouTube podcast hosted by Nate Kronaccia. I'm guarantee 200 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: you I'm slaughtering his last name. I've never watched him. 201 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: You know why I've never watched him. He's a very 202 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: well known anti Semitic conspiracy theorist who promoted Holocaust deniers. 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: He has a long history of making up for the 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: conspiracies at Israel is behind the Kennedy assassination nine to 205 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: eleven and the death of Charlie Kirk. He also that 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: October seventh in Israel was a false flag operation. Now 207 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe Graham didn't know that before he was going on 208 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: to show. Maybe you know, a PR producer booked him 209 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: on a show. But when he was on the show, 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: he said, I'm a longtime listener and fan. Well that's weird. 211 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: The guy with the Nazi tattoo who calls himself a 212 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: communist till he was thirty six, is a longtime fan 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: of about anti Semitic conspiracy theorist, it will almost be 214 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: a coincidence. And then on February twenty six, retweeted the 215 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: social media comments of Stu Peters, another prominent Holocaust and 216 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: i are who called Judaism a death cult. Graham said 217 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: this was just another error. He deleted the post. It's 218 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: just another coincidences. Graham is full of just ending up 219 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: in coincidences. Graham's excuse for all this just saysn't no, 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: He's just joking on the internet. He doesn't know, he 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know. It's just all a joke. Here's the thing 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: that I know. When the same thing keeps happening over 223 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: and over and over, it tends not to be a coincidence. Now, 224 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about some public policy positions on the issues 225 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: that I think is really important that he may not 226 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: want you to know. That's coming up next. So, as 227 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I said in the first event, Graham Planner is a 228 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: man of coincidence. Things just happened to him. Nazi tattoos, 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: support for anti Semitic podcaster retweeting Holocaust deniers claiming you're 230 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: a communist into your mid thirties, only to say afterwards, 231 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: it's just not if it's true, it's just you know, 232 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: a series of things that have happened to me. He's 233 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: just a blue collar guy who spent his childhood at 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: expensive boarding schools, with deep local political connections. Who's really 235 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: a man of the people. Although the man's character leaves 236 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, what are some policies that he's 237 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: running on and talking about? One in his campagn announcement, 238 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: he gives a lot of populis platitudes that life for 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: working class people and maina it's unaffordable because of billionaires 240 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: and corrupt politicians. You know, those are to blame. He says, 241 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: the billionaires are driving us into poverty. Doesn't really explain how, 242 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: but he's a that's a hot take. His solution to 243 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: these problems is universal health care, no more wars, and 244 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: more money for veterans. So basically, you're you know, you're 245 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: the same talking points from Bernie style, Bernie Sanders style 246 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: Democrats all it is, only that's not the only thing 247 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: he's always said. See Graham as a guy. Once they 248 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: said once again he loved reddit, he loved forms, he 249 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: loved to talk all the time, well into his mid thirties. 250 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: When it's you know, I get when you're a teenager 251 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: and you're bored after school and you write on social 252 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: media when you're in your mid thirties, you should be 253 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: doing a little bit more than posting on Reddit. Graham 254 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: had some strong opinions that I don't think they're making 255 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: into his ads anytime soon. Graham was deeply obsessed with 256 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: a Black Lives Matter movement and the defund the police 257 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: movement in twenty twenty one. Shocking. I know, with that 258 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: kind of background, you can't believe that a guy like 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: that is really into the deep fund the police movement. 260 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: He posted quote, all cops are bastards and miss police 261 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: conduct is a quote problem that extends deep into the 262 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: profession as a whole end quote. See here's how you know. 263 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: By the way, the whole working class thing is a 264 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: shtick and an utter lie. Police aren't just a force 265 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: to protect innocent people. I mean they are that, and 266 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: that is extremely important. But from a working class perspective, 267 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: someone who actually working class, whose father was actually a cop, 268 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: whose uncles were actually cops, and they grew up real poor, 269 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: the police aren't just a force to protect people. It 270 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: is a ladder of social prosperity. If you are working class, 271 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: like really working class and college is just not your thing. 272 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: It's out of reach financially, it's you didn't You're just 273 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: not from an education background. You don't have those kinds 274 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: of brains. You want to take out student loans. How 275 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: do you manage to get into the middle class. You 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: join a public sector union like the police, like a 277 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: civil servant. Job can give you the ladder of opportunity 278 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: to make it to the middle class in one generation. 279 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: There is a deep economic factor behind the police that 280 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: working class people understand that people like Graham Planner do 281 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: not because he's not working class. He is a show pony. 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Now his opinions on police not shockingly extend to ICE. 283 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to reform ICE, he wants to disband it. 284 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: No immigration enforcement whatsoever. But rest assured Graham actually is 285 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: for some type of you know, law and order. It's 286 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: just a poweramilitary organization. I'm not joking when I say that, 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: because Graham belong. This is according to the Main Wire. 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Graham was an active member and taught instruction at the 289 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: main Socialist Rifle Association. You may remember when he said 290 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: he was, you know, a socialist, He said he wasn't 291 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: a socialist. He not only was a socialist and that 292 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: was a communist, but he actually participated and taught advanced 293 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: firearm instruction to a power military group, surely after the 294 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement led to a rise of riots 295 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: across the country. Once again, he was thirty five years 296 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: old when he did this. He took all his training 297 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: in the military. And by the way, he worked for black 298 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: Water something else he doesn't like to talk about. They 299 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: worked for a private military organization and he used all 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 1: those advanced socialist you know, skills for a socialist agenda 301 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: for a socialist power military organization that just may need 302 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: them for self defense. Wonder why. Once again, that also 303 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: came from a Reddit postman this guy I love posting 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: on Reddit back in twenty thirteen. He also posts that 305 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: black people are poor tippers at restaurants and so that 306 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: sexual assault victims need to take responsibility and accountability. But 307 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: sexual assault victims Jews police. They are in his only target, 308 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Graham's Graham Platner's ir runs deep. He also really doesn't 309 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: like the same people in Maine He's pretending to support 310 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: rural whites. See, Maine has the largest population of rural 311 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: hits in New England, and they actually split their electoral 312 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: College votes by congressional district in the presidential election. It's 313 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: one of only two states besides Nebraska to do that. 314 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: So Main Second District, which is basically one hundred percent rural, 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: they vote for Trump and they give one electoral College 316 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: vote for Trump. In the last three presidential elections, Trump 317 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: won Main Second District by ten points in twenty twenty, four, 318 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: seven points in twenty twenty, and ten points in twenty sixteen. 319 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty, someone in his reditfeed said white 320 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: people aren't racist or stupid as Trump thinks, and Graham replied, 321 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: living in white rural America, I'm afraid to tell you 322 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: they actually are. Once again, he wants everyone to look away. 323 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: He says he this is what he says. Now, he's 324 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: just a white guy from I'm just a white guy 325 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: from rural Maine. I know these people, and I'm not 326 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: a racist. Why would Graham say such a thing? Though 327 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: this is in twenty twenty, he is well into his 328 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: mid thirties when he's saying white rural whites are stupid, 329 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: and Maine has a large population of rural whites, especially 330 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: given that Main Second congressional district, that same district he's 331 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: talking about being follow stupid people. They voted for Obama twice, 332 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: they voted for Kerry, they voted for Gore, and they 333 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: voted for Clinton. So why would they vote for Donald Trump? 334 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: Is because they're stupid? Or is it because their communities 335 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: were devastated by open trade with China, by NAFTA and 336 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: by other policies, by the way, policies that Graham very 337 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: much supports, and it's put Maine in a terrible position. 338 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Open trade with China devastated northern Maine, as did NAFTA, 339 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: and Graham Platner wants you to understand. He thinks those 340 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: rural whites and northern Maine they're stupid and we should 341 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: work with China. So why would voters in northern Maine, 342 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, support Trump because he opposed the things that 343 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: destroyed their communities. It was out of self interest. It's 344 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: not because they're stupid. Why did Graham say that? Because 345 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: he believes it, like he believes all cops are bastards, 346 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: like he believes the sexual assault victims should take responsibility. 347 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to go into his dating life. 348 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I look, I trust me. I did a deep dive 349 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: in the sky and there is. He is not kind 350 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: to women. I'll just say it like that, or hasn't been. 351 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: I guess pre marriage. Maybe he's nice to his wife. 352 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but as someone who dated, not not 353 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: kind to women. He believes in communism. He believes in socialism. 354 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: He is a man of intense privilege, someone who's able 355 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: to go to the finest boarding schools as a child, 356 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: go into the military because he was inspired by Ernest Hemingway. 357 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, who even says that out loud. He voted 358 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: he was voted most likely to start a revolution. And 359 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, listen, you don't have to be working class 360 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: to support working class ideologies or to be a populist. 361 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Look at Uey Long, Ross Perrot, Donald Trump. None of them. 362 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: None of them were poor. But they didn't fake it. 363 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: They didn't lie and say they were. They were honest 364 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: with who they are. He wants the public to act 365 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: like the movie Men in Black when they take out 366 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: that little pen and a light goes off and everyone's 367 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: memory is just wipe clean. He doesn't want you to 368 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: know what he has said forty five seconds ago. He 369 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: wants you to have treated him like a completely blank 370 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: slate and only wants you to know the very narrow 371 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: vision of who he is, that he is that he 372 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: thinks is acceptable. No, the true darkness in this man 373 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: isn't just the fact that he's not working class. It's 374 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: that he detests w class people. And if you ask him, right, 375 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: if you ask him, why would you say these things 376 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: that he keeps saying, just look at my growth? Look 377 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: at my growth. Listen, I one hundred percent believe people 378 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: can grow. A fifteen year old, as I said, should 379 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: not be responsible their whole life, or they write in 380 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: social media. This was not a fifteen year old. This 381 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: was a thirty five year old. This is not somebody 382 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: who grew. This is somebody saying the truth because he 383 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: was saying the truth of his opinions when he was thirteen, 384 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: when he was eighteen, when he was thirty five. All 385 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, after thirty years of being a communist, 386 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: of being a radical, of being a protester, of being 387 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: a Champagne socialist, he wants you to understand he is 388 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: not any of those things. He's just a working class 389 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: oyster farmer. This is a dangerous, dangerous person. He's doing 390 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: an impersonation of John Fetterman, who likes to flirt with 391 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: people who hate choose and things. They're response for all 392 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: the wars in the world. So if you live in Maine, 393 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: and if you live near Maine, it is your responsibility 394 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: to get this message out. Graham Platner is a very 395 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: dangerous individual who is lying to voters about who he 396 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: actually is and what he believes. Ask Me Anything is next. 397 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment. If 398 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: you want be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, 399 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: email me Ryan at Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan 400 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: at Numbers Plural Numbers gamepodcast dot com. First question comes 401 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: from Tristan not sure why the GUP White House keeps 402 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: trying to push the Save Act. It's of not getting 403 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: sixty votes and voter ID is not going to be 404 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: anyone's top issue this November. I think it'd be easier 405 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: to fix the voter integrity issue state by state, and 406 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: we could very well get tripectors in Arizona, Wisconsin, and 407 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: Michigan this fall. One Blue states aren't going to go 408 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: with it. And remember there are a lot of well 409 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: there used to be more, but there are some swing 410 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: seats and blue states that you would need to win 411 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: in order to keep the House, like in New Jersey 412 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: and New York, and then there's a few in California 413 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: that honestly, you could still win even with the Jerry 414 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Mander map. And secondly, a lot of people feel like 415 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: they don't have to November, that November without butt or 416 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: idea is going to be a disaster, so they want 417 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: to get it done early. And it's something that Trump 418 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: has this big fight for it, and I've been very 419 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: critical of him, but Ken Paxson's campaign putting out that 420 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: message that he will drop out if they passed the 421 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Save Act was an act of brilliance. It is pushed 422 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: back the corn and endorsement from Trump. It's not coming 423 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: out as of right now. It could be coming out later, 424 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: but it hasn't come out yet, and I think it 425 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: was an act of genius on part of his campaign. 426 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: So Smart put the ball back in the corner of 427 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: John thone, and he's gotta pass something or get something 428 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: along because to avoid this very expensive primary. So so smart, Okay. 429 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: Next up comes from Dave, big fan of your show. 430 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Are you able to explain why Ohio is now solidly 431 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: read I am a millennial. Growing up, I always remember 432 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Ohio being considered and the consummate swing state. But that 433 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Thanks Stave. Okay, Dave, 434 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you for listening. As a millennial, I 435 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: remember those days. Part of the reason is because Ohio, well, 436 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: because the party has changed, is the moral of the story. 437 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Because working class whites have become Republicans in greater numbers 438 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: and more college educated urban people voters have become more democratic, 439 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Ohio has been benefited from them more than basically anybody else. 440 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: If you go back to two thousand and eight. In 441 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, northern Ohio and the Mahoning Valley were solidly blue, 442 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean deep, deep democratic parts of the state, and 443 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: the rural counties in Ohio actually only voted for Republicans 444 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: by like you know, they gave them like between fifty 445 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: and maybe sixty percent of the vote. Most rural counties 446 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: did not get more than sixty percent of the vote 447 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: in Ohio in two thousand and eight, which is shocking 448 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: now by today's perspective. Fast forward to twenty twenty four, 449 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Mooning Valley is Republican. All those areas in northern Ohio 450 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: are basically outside of Cleveland Republican. A Canton I think 451 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: is maybe Democratic too, but there's not much that is 452 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: still democratic. Most is Republican. And the rural counties, instead 453 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: of giving fifty to sixty are giving to seventy to 454 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: eighty five. So you have a twenty point shift among 455 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: the rurals, and you have the entire northern area that 456 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: used to be Democratic strongholds going maybe fifty five fifty 457 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: four Republicans, and the Democratic Party has basically collapsed. We'll 458 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: see if anything swings back this year with the upcoming election, 459 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: given that they have a good Democrats of a good 460 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: slate of candidates, but it's kind of hard to see 461 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: that that much movement. Last question is are Shannon? They write? 462 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if R. Shan's a woman or a man, 463 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: but are Shannon? You write to me and I appreciate 464 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: you for listening. Are there any or have there been 465 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: any politicians who want to increase the voting age? I 466 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: think personally should be twenty one, but probably twenty five 467 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: eighteen is far too young. Younger people overall are dumb 468 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: and want free things. Also, by the way, old people 469 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: want free things too. I also sign out tangent. It's 470 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: very scared. These young people are the future leaders. We 471 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: are raising the dumb as kids ever. I kind of 472 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: think everyone thinks that their generation is the dumbest generation ever. 473 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I remember when millennials were told that they were the 474 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: laziest people. And almost every mile and I know is 475 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: working like forty five jobs trying to hold it together. 476 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know the whole I 477 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: will say this, there is a big things between Gen 478 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Z and millennials in the sense of and this is 479 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: a big part of it. The smartphones and the personalized 480 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: entertainment has definitely created a hard cultural barrier between Gen 481 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: zs and Gen Alpha and millennials and older. Because I 482 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: grew up and I know I was the only one 483 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: I didn't have a TV in my room. Ma had 484 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: to one TV in the house, and I know some 485 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: people at TV's in the room, but most people I 486 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: know didn't. Most kids I know didn't, And if you 487 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: wanted to watch something, you had to kind of watch 488 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: what your family watched. And there was a lot of 489 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: jokes being made on television shows that were intergenerational like 490 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: that old people will get any people will get and 491 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: you kind of had a better understanding of what of 492 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: what they were thinking about, what they were talking about, 493 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: and more I guess more conversation, and not conversations, but 494 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: more cultural cornerstones of things that happened in your past. 495 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: So it was more understanding. Zoomers and alphas. They don't 496 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: have everything's personalized to them. They don't have to know 497 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: or learn about anything, so there is that. I don't 498 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: want to call them dumb, though I don't think they're dumb. 499 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're lessons smart. But it is what it is. 500 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: As far as the question goes with the pot with 501 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: voting age, yes, the vec around was swamming if you 502 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: wanted to raise the voting age two twenty five when 503 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: he was joining for president. Obviously he never became president, 504 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: but like the previous question, he might be governor of Ohio. 505 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Kind of hoping that doesn't happen, but it might. So anyway, 506 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: that's the episode. Thank you guys for listening. I hope 507 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: you enjoy this episode. 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