WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Mike Renner (04-27-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.520 Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend, safe weekend. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:08.879 Welcome in, stay awhile if you can. Dan and the 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.440 Dan Ns Dan Patrick Show a lot to talk about. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.680 Peter King will stop by Reggie Miller. Final hour of 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.759 the program. We'll check in with Pro Football Focus in 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.240 their draft analyst Mike Renner, who had some great, great 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.680 opinions over the weekend following the three days of the 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.760 NFL Draft, will explore the draft, some of the goods, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.319 some of the bads, some of the ugly. Also, you 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.120 had parts three and four of the Bulls documentary. 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We 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.119 got to play of the day coming up as well. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:17.720 The first ever virtual NFL Draft was a hit, a 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.040 big hit. They're already talking about using some of these 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.600 elements as they move forward with future drafts. And the 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.520 ratings obviously didn't suffer. People were looking for something to watch, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.720 anything to watch. First and second day set records for 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.080 a viewership. And you show the executive, you show coaches, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.199 you show players at home, and it humanized these people. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.120 It provided a lot of fun content content, and you know, 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.720 people were picking apart the home decor of the players 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.680 and the coaches and the gms, and some writers suggested 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.120 doing the draft like this every year moving forward. I 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.160 disagree with that. It's a novel approach, but you know, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.760 this cold for this because it was we're going through. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.200 This wasn't somebody who said, hey, let's do this. This 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.880 was a necessity. I can't imagine next year in LA 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.520 or the following year in Vegas, you're going to do 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.840 this and not really kind of explore what Vegas and 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.440 Los Angeles are all about. You want that pomp and circumstance. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.239 This was great. You know, the Draft has changed since 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.919 they moved it out of Radio City Music Hall, took 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.240 over cities like Philadelphia and Nashville. Did a wonderful job, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.520 and I'm sure there's going to be compromises here. You 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.480 can take the best parts of both formats. But either way, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.040 the Draft will go down as a bright spot in 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.400 NFL history. The commissioner and everybody in front of the camera, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.240 behind the camera, behind the scenes did a wonderful job 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:49.040 with this. The draft delivered both in abundance, entertainment and 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.520 some optimism there. But I can't see moving forward where 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.560 Hey we're in Vegas. Remember Vegas was going to have 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.040 a boat. They were going to have gondolas taking the 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:06.639 players to the stage. They had canals that they were 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.720 going to use. That was the opposite of what we had. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.480 I liked it. It did humanize Belichick at home with 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.359 his dog. You had the setup with Cliff Kingsbury, Mike 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.200 Vrabel kids, pets. You know, you had the draft picks 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.880 at home with their family. I like it. You can 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.280 incorporate that. I would love it if we had the 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.520 capability the technology to be able to give you a 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.320 screen of all of the war rooms. Now you couldn't 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.040 hear it, but you could pick your war room and 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.440 you could just watch that. Now, you could also have 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.920 the split screen where you have the commissioner, you have 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.120 the draft picks, you have videos, whatever that is. You 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.560 could do that, but you could pick your draft room, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.160 your war room there, and I think that would be entertaining. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.080 I did like the fact that you had these front 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.080 office people, coaches or players in their element with their families, 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.920 and I think as we move forward, you'll incorporate some 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.640 of that. But if that's all you were showing, you know, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.520 you're not showing, you know, the red carpet, and you're 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.200 not showing what Vegas is going to look like when 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.400 they roll this out, what they're gonna do with the 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.320 new stadium and the rollout in Los Angeles. You know, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.279 I think we like this because we were hungry for anything. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.760 You could have shown anything, and I think we would 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.840 have been fine with it. But I can't imagine as 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.960 we move forward where you go, Okay, that's what the 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.000 draft is going to be. You know, the network wants 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.640 to show, you know, bells and whistles here. They want 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.120 to have people in locations, they want to have beautiful 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.760 pictures there. They weren't able to do that. You got 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:50.280 creative lighting on Bristol, Connecticut and the ESPN headquarters, like 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.720 that was the glam shot. Now we did get some, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.400 you know, Cliff Kingsbury with his home, but other than that, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.120 you know, nobody really was had a tricked out place. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:07.000 I liked the simplicity of Belichick there. And I think 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:11.440 the dog made the pick. I started to think that 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.680 did the dog hit a button that? Like Bill put 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.440 him up there? And all of a sudden, did you 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.400 know the dog you know with his paw like click 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.480 on something? And then they drafted the kid out of 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.599 Lenora Rhyne and I thought that was his name. I 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.640 went they drafted Lenora Rhyne. Oh that's right. There is 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.400 a college called Lenora Rhyne. I liked it. It was fun, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.279 it was well done. I thought Rhys Davis Trey Wingo. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.120 To be able to navigate the traffic that you have there, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.680 just on the draft by itself without this pandemic is 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.640 hard to do, and they were able to do it seamlessly. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.919 Anybody want to keep the draft the way it was 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.000 what we saw this weekend. As we move forward, that's 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.040 what you want to see, any of the Danettes. I 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.400 want to see this as we move forward. I liked it, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.440 but I liked it as a one off. Yeah, Seaton, Yeah, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.720 I think that there's some elements of it you can keep, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.200 but I don't want it to be that stripped down. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.640 That was a little too basic. Yeah, Paulie, I do 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.400 like a handful of draftees from home, and but they've 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.400 always done that. They have draftees on the site. What 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.440 if they have in Vegas, but they'll have drafteas at home. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.920 You can see the home reaction. So as long as 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.360 they keep that part of it. But as far as 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.200 like Belichick at home, that was perfect. That looks like 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.440 what we would do doing a fantasy football draft. You pick, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.840 you jump up, you walk around your house, you go back, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.960 you pick. Yeah. Mclovin, Yeah, I mean I kind of 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.560 agree with paul. It was interesting to see the gms 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.800 and their kids. But I love the Nashville and the 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.680 Philly the pump, and I think the economic reasons are 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.719 valid too, Like, isn't that a lot of money to 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.520 those cities? Oh sure, yeah, and it will be for 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.920 Los Angeles with that new stadium, and then of course 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.560 Vegas when they get their opportunity. All right, age seven 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.920 seven three d P show email address DP of dampad 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.440 dot com Twitter, hand to a DPS show. Mclevin's got 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.479 a pull question or two. There were a couple of surprises, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.800 not many surprises. Remember, leading up to the draft, we 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.400 had a couple of analysts say, oh, there's gonna be 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.760 a lot of trades. I don't think you had a 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.240 lot of trades because of the virtual draft set up. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.040 I think that that played a large role in this, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.800 that teams were a little bit more cautious in what 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.040 they were doing, and they locked in on who they 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.760 wanted and they did their damnness to get that pick. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.400 You saw some outliers, which we'll talk about, you know, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.800 the Eagles taking Jalen Hurts, what happened with the Packers 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.840 with Jordan Love. But I think there were some jams 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.480 who were frustrated that they were trying to make picks 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.280 and they couldn't do it. What do you have? McLevin? 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.160 So yeah, I had a question, what is the biggest 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.800 surprise the Packers taking quarterback in the first round and 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.440 no wide receivers, the Eagles taking Jalen Hurts in the 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.760 second round. I don't know if it's a surprise, but 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:59.880 Jamis Winston signing with the Saints. I'm fine with Jamis 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.840 instance signing with the Saints. I think it's like that. Yes, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.280 I think it's a very good move. But I got 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:10.680 Sean Payton and I've got Drew Brees. I don't need 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.240 him to play, but when he does play, I want 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.200 him to make better decisions. We all know he has 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.240 great talent. He doesn't make good decisions with Sean Payton 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.880 and Drew Brees. No more excuses. If you can't learn 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.480 with them, then you're not going to learn the position. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.440 I'm fine with that. Jalen Hurts with the Eagles, I 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.520 get it. This isn't about Hey, the Eagles are looking 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.920 at maybe they're Taysom Hill. I think they're looking at 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.520 their quarterback and Carson Wentz. To me, this is more 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.680 about Carson Wentz than it is. We want to find 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.400 our Taysom Hill as well or our Lamar Jackson. I 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.160 think I like Jalen Hurts. I wish that he would 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.319 have gone to a team where he would have been 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.360 the eventual successor in maybe two years, but he might 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.200 be playing because of the way Carson Wentz plays. I 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.520 like what the Eagles did in getting Jalen Hurts. Nate 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.880 Sudfeld is not going to scare anybody. I think Jalen 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.320 Hurts has the ability to come in and put some 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.160 pressure on a defense if he has to, you know. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.080 But I think Carson Wentz played all every game last year, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.040 so maybe he's getting smarter, but he has to. Yes, mclovin, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.440 I gotta tell you, if Philly was ready to burn 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.960 down Lincoln Financial Field, they were I raped. The fans were, stop. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.080 You got your wide receiver in the first round, which 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.840 you needed that, and you got it. This was a 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.200 value pick, and you got Jalen Hurts and you got 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.280 a really what I think is a really good backup quarterback. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.760 You know, to start the season they took a wide receiver. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.040 Then no one expected them to take Jalen Ragar instead 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.280 of the one that everyone knew Jefferson from Alice you 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.120 you know, but then again they bowed McNabb in ninety eight. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:50.040 I know, look, we we don't know, we don't know. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:51.959 It's like when they go, oh, you know what, we're 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.760 gonna bring in Nick Foles. Nick Foles, he can't play, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.040 you know, he nearly retired. How did that work out? 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.360 And I was there at the NAB draft when they 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.760 booed him, and I went, yeah, they don't even know 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.920 this guy. Donovan McNabb is a borderline Hall of famer. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.280 Now we want those shiny objects that we know. Their 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.839 job is to find the right person, not Hey, you 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.720 guys don't know who this guy is. Would any camp 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.080 be any good? That's not always the case. We know 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.280 that there are just so many situations where we go, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:32.960 who's that guy? Who's Russell Wilson? Wait, Dak Prescott. That's 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.920 why when it comes to draft picks, when you see 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.520 what you're doing, the team and what they're doing, I'm 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.520 going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.840 assuming you got guys who spent a lot of time 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.920 on that player or the player you're not going to take. Yeah, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.520 Paul Dan, I went back and looked at some old 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.800 drafts and draft grades today, and you're exactly right. When 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.320 Russell Wilson was drafted, people said, that makes no sense. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.440 You just spent a bunch of money on Matt Flynn 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.760 in the offseason. That's a wasted draft pick. When Kirk 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.120 Cousins was drafted by the Red that makes no sense. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.679 In the first round you took a quarterback, you take 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.520 one of the fourth game alignment or a tight end. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.560 Same thing with um you know different Dak Prescott, like 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.520 Tony Rown was in his prime. You don't need a quarterback. Yeah, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.920 that's why when it comes to the reaction overreaction, and 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.839 you guys, remember when people Dallas Cowboy fans wanted Johnny Manziel, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.400 not Zack Martin, not a Hall of Famer. You wanted 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.400 Johnny Manziel because you knew Johnny Manziel. We like when 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.160 our teams draft somebody we know. Then you get the 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.760 Packers with Jordan love Now. I told you on Friday, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.840 why didn't like it for a couple of reasons. Now, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.160 I was letting it soak in. I was gonna let 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.000 it simmer a little bit and go, Okay, maybe I 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.240 have a different approach here. Maybe I'm gonna feel differently 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.120 about this now I feel worse about this if I'm 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.200 a Packer fan for the following reason. You trade it 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.559 up for Jordan love Now, I told you that. I 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.920 found out my source said the cold We're going to 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:05.319 take Jordan Love. They ended up taking a quarterback in 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.280 Jacobieson out of Washington they were going to take. From 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.920 what I was told they were taking Jordan Love. That's 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.560 where the Packers wanted to go up and get it. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:21.240 Why maybe they think he's the next Patrick Mahomes. I 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.079 have a problem with it. If you're going to look 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.000 at the Green Bay Packers and say, well, you got 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.560 the greatest quarterback, why can't he make these wide receivers great? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.960 Tom Brady did this. The reason why the Packers didn't 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.000 go to the super Bowl was because of their defense, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.920 not their offense. Now do I think they were a 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.920 legitimate thirteen and three team. I do not, In fact, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.680 the entire season. I even said on the show numerous times, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.000 I don't know how good the Packers are, and I 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.640 still don't. I think they're more of a ten or 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.839 eleven win team. They won thirteen. They could have gone 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.000 to the super Bowl. The reason why they didn't their defense. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.560 That's what they needed to shore up. Now you can 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.640 say did they do a good job and that, well, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.920 we can discuss that as well. If you're taking Jordan Love. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.079 You just signed up Aaron Rodgers. He's got four years left. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.160 So if I look at the financials here, what are 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.760 you gonna do? Trade him? Cut him? Is Rogers leaving 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.200 in the next two years, and I'm going to say 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.600 probably not three years. Maybe the reason why you draft 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.040 a quarterback in the first round is you get to 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.320 have that rookie contract. So I'm going to take Jordan Love. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.440 The first three years of that team friendly contract, he's 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.000 not playing. Then we get to the fourth year, will 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.000 he be playing? Then what if we get to the 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.439 fifth year where you've taken him, and you've just wasted 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.800 the five year window to have a quarterback who doesn't 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:59.520 make achingly painful money for the salary cap. Right, look 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.880 at what Alex Smith did for the Chiefs, and the 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.280 Chiefs said we can get Mahomes. He sits for one year, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.439 not one and they win a Super Bowl because they 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.040 have a team friendly contract. That's why it doesn't make 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.959 any sense for Jordan Love. Now, we could all sit 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.840 here and go, well, but if he's a Pro Bowl 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.240 quarterback and he's your quarterback for the next ten years, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.120 he's not going to be my quarterback. For the next 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.480 four years. What I want out of that quarterback is 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.320 immediate dividends. Joe Burrow plays right away. Twoah sits for 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:34.440 one year. Justin Herbert probably sits for one year. Now 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.240 I have a team friendly contract. Jordan Love, he's not 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.680 sitting for one, he's not sitting for two. Maybe the 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.960 third year you get Jordan Love in there. Maybe that's 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:53.120 best case scenario. That's why I didn't agree you trade up. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.560 You could use defensive help. If you're going to trade up, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.600 trade up for somebody who helps you now a thirteen 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.000 and three team unless management went, you know, we're really 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.840 not that good. We got a lot of holes here. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.320 You found the running back. Your wide receivers are you know, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.280 aside from Davante Adams, they're okay. That's not a ringing 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:21.040 endorsement there. But I got Aaron Rodgers. Your defense was poor. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.800 Your defense hurt you, and the Niners ran all over you. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.840 If that's who teams would always build their team in 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.640 accordance to how they matched up with the Patriots. If 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.960 I'm the Packers, how do we match up with the Niners, who, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:41.200 by the way, got even better they did? Scary? I 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.640 think Baltimore got better, and I'm talking about you know, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.680 the elite teams getting better. Baltimore got better, but San 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.520 Francisco got a steal in Trent Williams. So you have 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:59.840 Joe Staley retire and they go get Trent Williams, crazy, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.520 get a wide receiver, trade to Forrest Buckner, you get 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:08.680 defensive line. John Lynch did a good job, did a 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:12.520 good job, and that's the difference there. You know, the 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.120 San Francisco forty nine ers got better. Green Bay didn't 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.760 get better. They got different, but they didn't get better. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.680 In my opinion, you didn't take any wide receivers in 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:27.280 a wide receiver heavy draft. You didn't take one. Okay, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.320 it's your defense going to be formidable, and if it is, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.240 then maybe this works out. Baltimore got better. Now Dobbins 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.840 Ingram might think is thirty. So you got a guy, 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:43.280 you know, another running back in there. I love Queen Patrick. Queen, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.320 you got a talented defensive player as well. But you know, 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.680 when people talk about a draft and they give you 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.880 a grade, your draft is in entire draft, not just 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.320 the first two picks. We focus on the first and 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.680 second rounds. Drafts are won and lost after that, and 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.960 I was also looking at the Vikings. The Vikings had 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:08.840 twelve picks on the last day, like an expansion team 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.480 has twelve picks, not a team that's a playoff team. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.760 Those guys aren't gonna Why not take twelve picks and 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.439 narrow and package that to get three picks. Because three picks, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.600 I can get guys who will play. Twelve picks they're 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.800 not going to play on a playoff caliber team. Didn't 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:31.240 understand that philosophy at all. Take the twelve and move 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.880 up and get two great players instead a bunch of bodies. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.960 And plus you have the offseason. That's not an offseason. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.680 You're not even gonna give them a chance to make 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.119 the team. But if I trade those picks up and 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.360 I get some guys who are going to play, that 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.080 to me was the smart choice. All right, come up 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.200 with a poll question here, we'll talk to a Mic 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.320 Renner Pro Football Focus. Fritzie said, you got to look 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.720 at these opinions with Mike Renner. He did a great job. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.280 It was just, you know, there's no bias there. He 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.840 just gives you a raft grade and he'll tell you 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.360 why he doesn't like the Chargers in what they did. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.920 Doesn't like what they did with Justin Herbert, and he 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.560 had some thoughts prior to the draft on the Chargers 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.320 should have gone all the way up to three. You 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.880 know who had another good draft the Lions. And it's 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.360 rare when we say that about the Lions. I thought 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.920 the Lions did well, really did well. All Right, we'll 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.840 take a break, We'll talk some football. We've got some 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.680 phone calls. We got Reggie Miller a little later on, 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.880 and we got a lot of topics to dive into 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.680 twenty after the hour, just getting started on this Monday, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.879 Dan and the Dan It's Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.280 listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.680 catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.800 or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.080 your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.120 Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.160 on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. Dan 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.800 Patrick Show brought to you by Legal Zoom. No matter 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.520 what happens, you want to make sure your loved ones 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.520 are taken care of. That's why legal Zoom has made 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.240 it easy to set up the right estate plan. You 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.439 don't even have to leave your home, take care of 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.520 your family today the right estate plan at legal zoom 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.720 dot com. Michael and Michigan joins us. Hey, Mike, what 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.200 do you have for me today? ADP first time, long 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.280 time six foot a meaty two fifteen. We want to 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.960 talk to you about this Packers pick. Man. I've been 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.680 sitting for three days this here, and everyone talk about 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.879 the Packers and Jordan Love and oh my god, what 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.840 they do? You know? Honestly, Man, I gotta tell you 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.520 who's our backup quarterback when Rogers goes down? Longtime Packer fan, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.040 I've seen a lot of Super Bowl runs shut down 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.119 because we lose Rogers. Well, okay, okay, go back and 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.040 behind man. All right, here you go, Michael, thank you 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.960 for the phone call. If that's the case, then bringing 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.040 Andy Dalton or bring in Cam Newton or bringing Jamis Winston. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.840 If you're worried about who's our backup quarterback. I just 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.000 didn't like the Jordan Love pick you went up to 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.200 get him. He's not going to play for at least 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:00.240 three years. You want that team friendly rookie quarterback contract, 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.840 like it just doesn't make sense. And I know he 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.359 might be the next Patrick Mahomes. We keep hearing that 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.760 you needed to shore up your defense because the Niners 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.159 gouged you, ran all over you, and you went you 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.600 were you were went away from the Super Bowl. I 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.640 don't know. Mike Renner Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.840 and did a great job in summing up the draft. 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.000 He had great opinions there and Mike joins this. Now, Mike, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.760 good Morning, let me start with the Jordan Love trade. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.480 Explain it. Tell me the good of the Packers taking 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.480 Jordan Love. Well, the good is with the rest of 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.320 their draft, I gotta ended up being their best pick. Actually, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.000 so the good is that he has the tools. Like 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.840 the Patrick Mahomes comparison that everyone wants to make. It's 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.840 not fair to him. He doesn't necessarily have that level 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.959 of ability or even that level of performs at college, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.960 but he has that natural arm talent. You saw it 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.240 on a tape at Utah State. We tracked these things 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.320 called big time throws here at PFF, which are special 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.040 downfield throws with accuracy. You were still top five in 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.560 the nation last year in that category despite play with 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.480 not a lot of talent around him at Utah State. 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.240 So that's what you fall in love with with him 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.119 the pick though I can't get on board with the 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:12.800 national media. No one seems to be able to get 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.880 on board it just because of Aaron Rodgers four years 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.680 left on his contract. Jordan Love up and down over 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.760 the course of his career, almost made picks his touchdowns 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.399 last year. You better be right about this evaluation. If 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.920 you're Brian Goodacoons or else, you just drafted a guy 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.040 who didn't even play at a big school, who wasn't 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.639 even good last year. To us, sir, if Aaron Rodgers, 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.160 do you like Jordan Love better than Justin Herbert, I'll 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.640 say I'd rather come away from the first round with 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.080 Jordan Love than Justin Herbert because I think he can 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.000 get to that level, Like I think his ceiling could 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.760 be a top ten quarterback in the NFL. Justin Herbert, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.639