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Speaker 1: factor in a day they went nine and nine, most people,

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Speaker 1: including myself, would have chocked this team as a lock

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Speaker 1: top five picking team in the draft. Most people would

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Speaker 1: have said, it's a possible to win that trade with

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos because they're gonna get Russell Wilson. So

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Speaker 1: no matter how many draft picks you get, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be good and they're gonna win games and your picks

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Speaker 1: gonna suck. Well, that was the opposite. He was terrible.

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Speaker 1: They're they're giving you the six pick. They gave him

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. That pick alone looks like an

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Speaker 1: all time fleecing. Then for you to take Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: win thirty games, like most people, especially a lot of

439
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Speaker 1: people in the media because it was the sexy thing

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Speaker 1: to do, and there's a cultish thing with the media once,

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Speaker 1: once it becomes popular to say something, then everyone jumps

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Speaker 1: on it. It's actually, you know, it's the easiest thing

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Speaker 1: to do, I think in the profession. And everyone thought

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Speaker 1: Pete was an idiot. Russell was a star, and there

445
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Speaker 1: were moments where Pete could have been better, and Rusk

446
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Speaker 1: carried the team, but clearly everyone thought let him throw,

447
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Speaker 1: let him throw, let him throw. Pete's like, I'm telling you,

448
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Speaker 1: that's not a great game plan. And then they get

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith and he threw. I mean his numbers is,

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Speaker 1: you're through thirty touchdowns. They got the very best out

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Speaker 1: of the guy. They clearly have some talent. Now they

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Speaker 1: got the picks. Pete Carroll's a really good coach. John

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Speaker 1: Schneider is a really good general manager. And part of

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Speaker 1: being good in those two roles is seeing the future.

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Speaker 1: And they turned on Russell a little bit as Russell

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Speaker 1: turned on them, and they realized, you know what, we're

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Speaker 1: not all in on this. We're gonna short him. Because

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Speaker 1: part of what you have to do as a front

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Speaker 1: office person is value these players like a stock. Is

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Speaker 1: he ascending? Is he descending? Is he kind of just

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Speaker 1: gonna be stable for a couple of years? And they

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Speaker 1: basically said, we think he's trending down. And when you

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Speaker 1: factor in the money and you factor what we could

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Speaker 1: get for him, audios, see you later. Hell, they tried,

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Speaker 1: They thought about doing it years ago with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: and they would have been right then, and they clearly

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Speaker 1: were right down. Now, we'll see what the quarterback situations

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Speaker 1: signing Gina long term. You know, I think that could

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Speaker 1: be a risky proposition. Who they draft. Is there a

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Speaker 1: guy worthy of taking the six pick? But what a

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Speaker 1: year for Seattle who everyone just buried, just thought Pete's

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Speaker 1: gonna be done. And I'm guilty as anybody, but that

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Speaker 1: was a muscle flex year for a guy that's won

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Speaker 1: national championships, super Bowls and made the playoffs without Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if Russell Wilson never makes the playoffs with

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, because I would probably I doubt that one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into a little Middlecoff mail bag at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram. Here's what I did. I'm recording

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Speaker 1: this portion about lunchtime on Saturday, so before the playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I just touched on everything that happened, though I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But let's dive in to some of your

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Speaker 1: mail bag questions. There's this video of Tom Brady going

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Speaker 1: viral of Sam Spf. It's it's a little awkward. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it did not age. Well, that's not a question, that's

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Speaker 1: just I saw it on the the Instagram streets. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Delon love the pot keep crushing in the Arizona. I've

487
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: been a lifelong Patriot fans, so I can't complain since

488
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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed twenty years of Brady and Bill. But these

489
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Speaker 1: last few years under Cam Newton Mac Jones under the center,

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Speaker 1: pair to the Belichick's questionable coaching hires, have been a

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Speaker 1: tough watch. You talk about Bill hiring his buddies, never

492
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Speaker 1: breaking outside the coaching tree, but at what point does

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Speaker 1: his previous accolades no longer play a role in his

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Speaker 1: continued tenure as the Patriots head coach? GM side note,

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Speaker 1: does Bill limit the Patriot chances of garnering a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick because of his ability to coach up young,

497
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Speaker 1: no name players, preventing the rebuild I think he limits

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Speaker 1: their ability to ever get a top ten pick because

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Speaker 1: he's really good, like his understanding how to attack teams, right,

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Speaker 1: he's just his team is gonna be competitive obviously, Like

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Speaker 1: you said, random guys become good players there. But a

502
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Speaker 1: lot of it is he knows how to scheme, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to watch sometimes offensively, but he does

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Speaker 1: understand the uh the plan of attack. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: say he's the greatest game planner consistently in the history

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Speaker 1: of the league. Now, you know, reports came out this

507
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Speaker 1: week Patricia's out. Uh, they're extending Gerard Mayo their defensive

508
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Speaker 1: coaching staffs. Fine, it's just Patricia. Clearly, Robert Kraft was like,

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Speaker 1: this is not gonna fly. He's got to go now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know as a recording, as I haven't read

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Speaker 1: like he's getting fired from the staff. He's just not

512
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Speaker 1: gonna be the offensive coordinator. It's actually an easy one

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Speaker 1: for Bill to roll back because he never named an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He just had Matt calling the place. I

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Speaker 1: think the two guys that are gonna be rumored to

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Speaker 1: be their offensive coordinator are gonna be Bill O'Brien been there,

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Speaker 1: and Cliff Kingsbury. Bill, you know, drafted him. Now, Kingsbury's

518
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Speaker 1: offense is a lot different than what Bill's offense looks like.

519
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Speaker 1: But Bill could mesh what he does and Cliff does

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Speaker 1: together and maybe get more of a modern day offense.

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Speaker 1: I will be a little stunned if it's not one

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Speaker 1: of those two guys. Now, I'm not Cliff super rich.

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Speaker 1: Does he want to go be an offensive coordinator for Bill?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Uh? Maybe he could go to Alabama if

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien leaves. And that's also assuming people think that, uh,

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Speaker 1: Cliff is that good? Like I watched his offense, isn't

527
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Speaker 1: that great? You know, I see a pretty soft spread?

528
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Speaker 1: Like just doesn't really do it for me. But um,

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Speaker 1: maybe these guys like him. Okay, now that Mike Williams

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Speaker 1: is injured, should Brandon Staley be fired? No matter what

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Speaker 1: the outcome of the playoffs, I think the Charges will

532
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: be a lot better off with Sean Payton, who has

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Speaker 1: expressed interest in coaching them. Obviously, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they want or not. Uh, I'll be honest, I'll assume

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Speaker 1: they'll win him playing Mike Williams. Now, Ultimately, Mike could

536
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Speaker 1: have been injured in practice, right back spasms, whatever. It

537
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: is just so reckless. It is and I'm sure I

538
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Speaker 1: talked about it at the front of the podcast, but

539
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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley now like it's always something with the guy.

540
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: It's insane. It's always something. Every coach makes a bad decision,

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Speaker 1: wrong time to kick a field goal, wrong time to

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Speaker 1: call a play, maybe pushing a player too many touches.

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Speaker 1: He gets injured like it's football. I think Brandon Saley

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Speaker 1: over the course of the two years is a just

545
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Speaker 1: terrible decision maker. Obviously when his team's healthy, He's actually

546
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Speaker 1: proven to be a better defensive coordinator this year than

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Speaker 1: he was last year. He has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I think it's a no brainer. Uh Now,

549
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Speaker 1: this span ofs is never forget they love their cash

550
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Speaker 1: in a savings account. They don't like spreading it out

551
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Speaker 1: to other people who then can make them a lot

552
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: more money. That's why they always hire chief coaches. So

553
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Speaker 1: this lock that he would hire Dean that is Sean Payton.

554
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Speaker 1: I I can't feel confident though. That seems to me

555
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: the no brainer move. W c W. What is WCW.

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Speaker 1: I'm not up with the lingo, but respect your non

557
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Speaker 1: sugarcoat takes an approach to business. Disregard the fact that

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Speaker 1: this is coming from a dog's I G account. I

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Speaker 1: love dogs, Bro, looks like you've got a good looking dog.

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Speaker 1: It's my only way to d m you. No judgment zone,

561
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Speaker 1: my man. What Super Bowl matchup do you think would

562
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: be the best this year from a storyline football perspective? Well,

563
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are pretty hard to beat. Right

564
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Speaker 1: we saw the Bengals last year. Been there, done that.

565
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: No offense to Bengals fan. The Chiefs, they've won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl before. Pretty sure the Buffalo Bills have never

567
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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. They literally went to four lost

568
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Speaker 1: four straight. Everything that happened to that city, that team

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Speaker 1: over the course, if you've listened to podcasts, read in

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Speaker 1: the articles, it is pretty crazy everything that has happened

571
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Speaker 1: to that community. On top of that team, I would say, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: you could argue Jalen Hurts and the Eagles over the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners. I I don't think you could go wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a homer here, but a

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Speaker 1: seventh round Mr Irrelevant being the starting quarterback against the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills trying to get their first Super Bowl while

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Speaker 1: the Niners are trying to get their sixth. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Eagles are a bad storyline at all either.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, a guy that everyone discounted, probably playing injured. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I would say Bills versus one of those two teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with Mahomes. So like if that's

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Speaker 1: a Constellation prize, so I would rank it Bills clear

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Speaker 1: number one in the a f C, then Chiefs, then Bengals.

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Speaker 1: To me, the NFC is Eagles Niners because those two

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Speaker 1: teams have the opportunity to me to beat one of

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Speaker 1: the a f C, though I think both of them

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Speaker 1: probably be an underdog. And then you could go the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys just because ship it's the Cowboys, and uh, they're

589
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: always a fascinating If the Cowboys made of the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: that would means they would, you know, beat Brady, beat

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, and beat the Niners. Be a pretty good

592
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Speaker 1: run for old Mike McCarthy, Mr middle Coff. I saw

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Speaker 1: your scouts take video on YouTube about Brock Purty. I

594
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: was wondering how you became an NFL scout because it's

595
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Speaker 1: my dream being an NFL scout since two thou thirteen.

596
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm a freshman at a D three college and involved

597
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Speaker 1: with the football team. Is there any advice you would

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Speaker 1: give me about trying to become an NFL scout? Well,

599
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: you're you're already on the right path. The way I

600
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Speaker 1: got into football is I I was at cal Poly

601
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Speaker 1: as a student and I got involved with the program,

602
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Speaker 1: and then from there I went to Fresno State. College

603
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: football is the best feeder system to the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: started at cal Poly. You're at a D three, It's

605
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Speaker 1: not that much different. We were D one Double A.

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Speaker 1: Now we had some draft picks, so it just kind

607
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Speaker 1: of got the ball rolling. Uh. I would try to

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Speaker 1: get to a bigger school, either D one Double A

609
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Speaker 1: or Division one working recruiting. UH. That that to me

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Speaker 1: is a great, great springboard. That is my number one

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Speaker 1: advice to anybody work in college football, especially now. Who knows,

612
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Speaker 1: maybe you can become You work your way up. You

613
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: don't even need to go to the NFL. Become a

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Speaker 1: GM of one of these college teams, make like four

615
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: grand living the SEC have a time in your life.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more on your take that Packer fans

617
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: are exhausted with Rogers. How about him the other day.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's always about retirement with the guy.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, I'm not convinced Jordan's Love is

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Speaker 1: a long term solution, or even in the short term

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Speaker 1: for that matter, assuming Rogers retires or moves to another team.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the realistic options for Green Bay

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. Well, the only way Rogers is obviously, He's

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Speaker 1: got two options to not be on the Packers next year, retires,

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Speaker 1: or they trade him. And I think in either scenario,

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Speaker 1: Jordan's Love is the quarterback next year. You drafted this guy,

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Speaker 1: You've developed this guy. I think it would be borderline

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Speaker 1: malpractice to not give him a year. Now. If they

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Speaker 1: didn't and like you said, started looking at Jimmy Garoppolo

630
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Speaker 1: or trade for Derek Carr or do one of those,

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Speaker 1: that would show you what they think of Jordan's Love.

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Speaker 1: But I would guess the way they've talked about him,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers really likes him, thinks he's gotten a lot better. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's just saying that to say it.

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Speaker 1: I would be if Aaron Rodgers not your quarterback next year,

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Speaker 1: I'll be shell shocked. If Jordan's Love is not your starter. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how Jordan's love is not your starter

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Speaker 1: next year if rogers, it feels like he's more likely

639
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Speaker 1: to be retired than to be than to be traded.

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Speaker 1: I think a take that needs to be mentioned about

641
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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh that no one really seems to be talking

642
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: about is how he absolutely shredded the draft capital of

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Fair enough, won a Super Bowl, but then

644
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: second thing's got tough. He's jumping ship. Now it's been

645
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Speaker 1: announced he's coming back. I'm sure there's more to the

646
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Speaker 1: surface level doesn't seem crazy? Do you think there's any

647
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Speaker 1: truth to it? One difference if I wanted to defend

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Speaker 1: McVeigh is he is. You know, he's my age, thirty

649
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Speaker 1: seven years old. He has made an astronomical amount of

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Speaker 1: money and basically for almost twenty years now. He works

651
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: during the season, you know, eighteen hour days now. He

652
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Speaker 1: chooses to do that, but that's the way he's wired.

653
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: And the difference, like Andy Reid, Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: would they were Sean mcveigh's age, none of them had

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. So even if they had some

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Speaker 1: quote unquote other interests or will be like I just

657
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Speaker 1: need a break. You couldn't afford to think that way

658
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Speaker 1: when you are young, and I would say to me,

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Speaker 1: young in two thousand twenty three is like under forty

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Speaker 1: five and check your bank account and you have unlimited

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Speaker 1: money relative to what you want to do in life.

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Speaker 1: It makes you think like it makes you question what

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Speaker 1: you're doing if you're going through a tough time or

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Speaker 1: if you're just burned out. And listen, I've been critical

665
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Speaker 1: of the story, though I'd be a hypocrite, like I

666
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Speaker 1: changed careers, I've done different things. You know. I'm sure

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00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: many people listening have followed like, you know, I'm not

668
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Speaker 1: feeling this, I'll do something else. And if he would

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Speaker 1: have chosen that, though he decided to come back, like listen,

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Speaker 1: he's no different than anyone else. He just has. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I would say is he's got a pre

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Speaker 1: sweet job. He's an NFL head coach for a team

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Speaker 1: that is going to return a bunch of guys in

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Speaker 1: l A and he's a superstar. That job is better

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Speaker 1: than calling games on television. Now in ten years, if

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Speaker 1: he had become a superstar on TV, then you could

677
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Speaker 1: argue their equals, right, John Madden's job, by the time

678
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Speaker 1: I was a kid, was as big as most coaches

679
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Maybe a shortlist. Bill Parcels was more famous,

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Jimmy Johnson. It was a small, smallest

681
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Speaker 1: couple of college coaches, but John Madden was every bit

682
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Speaker 1: there equal and at the time was making more money.

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Speaker 1: Now the difference is Sean McVeigh makes every bit of

684
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Speaker 1: the same amount of money that he would make on TV.

685
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Speaker 1: It's just obviously an easier lifestyle now. Like for me,

686
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Speaker 1: I like golf. I don't think Sean McVeigh plays golf.

687
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Like what's you gonna do with this time? Honestly, Like,

688
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: what do you do every day to fill that void?

689
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: It's it's hard. So even so, listen, I'm not My

690
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: life is not that difficult podcasting. I have to dedicate

691
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: time to watching sports and reading about him, but I ain't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to work eighteen hour days now. I

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Speaker 1: do have to stay locked in, So I don't sound

694
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Speaker 1: like an idiot, but I do some free time in

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Speaker 1: my hands like that. You have to feel it. I've

696
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: got involved in some real estate stuff and trying to

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: trade some stocks on the side. Work out like you

698
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: gotta do things to feel your day, go on a

699
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: walk with my girlfriend. I you know, it's not you

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Speaker 1: just if you're not working like you are in coaching,

701
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: which is six months a year, fucking all the time, NonStop.

702
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: You go zero to sixty back to zero pretty fast,

703
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Speaker 1: and it could be a shock to the system. And

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Speaker 1: I do wonder if you realize, like, yeah, I don't

705
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Speaker 1: really I'm not ready to do this ship. But I

706
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Speaker 1: think most coaches, given the choice would do what he did.

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00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: Give picks for guys now, Jalen Ramsey, I think tweeted

708
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: or instagram he's probably gone what he probably is. I

709
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: got into football two years ago. I consume mostly main

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: ESPN Fox shows. However, they lack the insight of someone

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Speaker 1: who has previously worked in the industry. I'm still under

712
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: the impression that the importance of scouting is constantly glossed

713
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Speaker 1: over and underrated in the media. Do you think that

714
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: there is a tendency to oversimplify the job, as most

715
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Speaker 1: football media members seem to portray themselves as great talent

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Speaker 1: evaluators sending goodbyes from Poland. Well, no hate to the players,

717
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: and most people on TV are former players. Obviously their

718
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Speaker 1: perspective is getting ready for a game, training for the sport,

719
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Speaker 1: and then playing in the game, which is important. But

720
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Speaker 1: when it comes to team building or evaluating who should

721
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Speaker 1: and shouldn't be on the team, or how much guys

722
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Speaker 1: are worth, I would say their opinions tend to be

723
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Speaker 1: pretty shitty, and most of them are not the people

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Speaker 1: I would go to to go like they They've never

725
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: been a part of should we trade this guy? Or

726
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: all season long, when you're in the front office, it's like,

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Speaker 1: how do we upgrade our average right guard? Who can

728
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: we get to replace our backup linebacker. You're just constantly

729
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: talking these scenarios like most fans do. Honestly, being in

730
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Speaker 1: the NFL, in a front office or a college recruiting

731
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: office is no different than the way the fans talk

732
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Speaker 1: like God that damn, this guy is pretty good, we

733
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: need to extend this guy, or we really love the

734
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Speaker 1: guy now. The one difference is is you get to

735
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: know the people and the personalities really matter, and honestly,

736
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Speaker 1: some that's where some players are pretty good at talking

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Speaker 1: about personalities leadership being around guys, because that does really matter.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of like it's a black and white

739
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: business It's it's cut and dry. Either win or you lose.

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Speaker 1: You either get the job done or you don't. And

741
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Speaker 1: that's the way you're evaluated. And you're always trying to

742
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Speaker 1: get better players. Now there's also a balance of if

743
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Speaker 1: you can only slightly upgrade, but you love the guy,

744
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: you roll with it. There are complications, but yeah, I

745
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Speaker 1: mean team building, scouting, evaluating the right people, having a

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Speaker 1: philosophical belief in what you look for in positions, in scheme,

747
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Speaker 1: in an organization. Like clearly it's pretty clear to who

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Speaker 1: the Ravens like. Like is it shocking that they traded

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Speaker 1: for ro Kuan Smith and the next ended him? Like

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Speaker 1: when you think ro Quan Smith if you know, obviously

751
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Speaker 1: got drafted by the Bears. But if you said, like

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Speaker 1: the Bears, he's not gonna be on the Bear. If

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Speaker 1: I would have told you last year he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the Bears, what type teams would he go? Do?

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Speaker 1: You'd be like the Steelers, the Ravens. You know Seattle

756
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: is it's but Kyle and probably like him. I mean,

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the type mindset of coaches and organizations

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00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: that would like the guy you go who probably wouldn't

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00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: like him, you'd be like, he doesn't really fit on

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You know the Commander's it's it's pretty philosophically

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Speaker 1: easy once you get a feel for what gms and

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: coaches like. But yes, it's the life let of the league,

763
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: how those guys build their team. And this is one

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Speaker 1: thing I will defend Belichick on. Belichick takes a lot

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Speaker 1: of ship. He did a pretty good job for a

766
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: long period of time of finding kind of random guys

767
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: to become key guys on their championship teams. Right once

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Speaker 1: he had Tom Brady established right, most of his guys

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Speaker 1: from Julian Edelman's seventh round pick, Matt Slater is what

770
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Speaker 1: a sixth round pick not not. Most of their guys

771
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: are not super like Gronk was the second round pick,

772
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: but a lot a lot of their running backs were

773
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: traded for undervalued guys. He traded for Kyle van Noy,

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00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: who was a bust in Detroit. Like he's he's pretty

775
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: good at that man or he was when he had Tom.

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00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: It's obviously a lot harder when you don't have Brady

777
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Speaker 1: to pull off. Some of these moves kick up more.

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Speaker 1: Longtime listener, first time asking a question do you think

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00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin will ever play another down in the NFL. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm though, just state school guy, no doctor here. I

781
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: would say the way he has a chance to is

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Speaker 1: I don't have heart conditions in my family or so

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00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't have a good feel for like, uh, I've

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00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: just seen it, you know, when famous people have him

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00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: and kind of read about him. I would guess if

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00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: this is something that he's missing a valve or need

787
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: to stint or something like that, then no. But if

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: it was just a freak occurrence, they think, like, listen,

789
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: you're more no more likely playing football to have that

790
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: happen than to have it happened walk in your child,

791
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: then yeah, I think it's potential for him to make

792
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: a comeback, right, but it would be I'd be completely

793
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: pulling it out of my ass and guessing saying, yeah,

794
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: he's likely to come back. Or I think the safe

795
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: bet would be he never plays in the NFL again,

796
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: would be the safe bet. I think we'd all root

797
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: for him, obviously, it would be an incredible story. I

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00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: think it'll be cool if he just shows up at

799
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: one of these games. But like I said, Damar Hamlin

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Speaker 1: is the NFL the majority of the NFL are not

801
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: superstar players, are not J. J. Watt future Hall of Famer.

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00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: You know DeAndre Hopkins is gonna get traded. It's not

803
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: those guys. It's fifth, six, seventh round picks who are

804
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: fringe starters who play all over the league. DeMar hamlons

805
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the majority of the league. So when you see, like

806
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people I've seen talk about this, it

807
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: felt like you knew Tomorrow Hamlin in the NFL because

808
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: he is most guys in the locker room. If you're

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00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: a fan of a team, most of your team is

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00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: not like Michael Parsons or Trent Williams. It's like this

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Speaker 1: random fifth round pick that's starting for you. You're like, God,

812
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy. That's DeMar Hamlin, sixth

813
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: round pick. Because of an injury, he becomes a starter.

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00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: The whole team loves him. It's like well liked in

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00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: the league, high character guy. Due to it's just easy

816
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: to root for. So I think, like we all agree

817
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: when we all hurt when he went down, I think

818
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: we all couldn't root any harder. A comeback, not a doctor,

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Speaker 1: would be one of the coolest stories in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL from a heartwarming standpoint by far Okay Audios.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys, uh Sunday night or I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll see you Monday. I'll record Sunday night Monday

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Speaker 1: morning after the games coming up on Sunday, and let's

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Speaker 1: keep rock and rolling the volume