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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thursday edition of Clay and Bucks starts now,

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Speaker 1: big news day, a lot going on, and honored as

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Speaker 1: always to be with all of you as we make

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Speaker 1: sense of it, or make sense of it to the

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Speaker 1: degree that that's possible given some of the things going

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Speaker 1: on in the world these days. First up, as you

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Speaker 1: may have seen, Donald Trump going to the border, Biden

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Speaker 1: going to the border, and some big changes in the

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Speaker 1: way Democrats talk about the situation of the US Mexico border.

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Speaker 1: So we will be joined later on the program third

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Speaker 1: hour by our friends and podcast colleague Carol Markowitz, who

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Speaker 1: was just down there. Clay and I are going to

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Speaker 1: get down there too, but now everyone's going down, so

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Speaker 1: we've got to have our friends who have already been

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Speaker 1: to the border on the air here and then we'll

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Speaker 1: go down, but she'll tell us what she saw firsthand.

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Speaker 1: And then Julie Kelly's second hour on the legal situation

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Speaker 1: for Trump, which there's big news on as well. So

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Speaker 1: the two headlines today, you've got Trump and Biden at

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Speaker 1: the border, and you've got a major move by the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I think we'll dive into this one now, Clay.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I get a text from Clay after hours about

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Speaker 1: a story, I'm like, all right, so I know we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this tomorrow. At the top, he's fired up

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Speaker 1: about this one. The Supreme Court has taken up the

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Speaker 1: immunity claim. And this is where, just by way of review,

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Speaker 1: you have the District Court by with Chutkin, has dismissed

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Speaker 1: the immmunity claim, went to the appeals court. The appeals

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Speaker 1: court was kicking it back down to the district court.

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith wanted to go around the possibility of a

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Speaker 1: Trump appeal to the appeals court and went right to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. And now the Supreme Court has said right,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm getting this right so far, now the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has said, yes, Jacksmith, you can jump over

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Speaker 1: the appeals court knowing that you will win in the

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Speaker 1: DC appeals Court on the issue of presidential immunity. Now

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Speaker 1: they're saying that the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments

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Speaker 1: the third week of April on this yes, April twenty second,

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Speaker 1: so they'll hear about the Trump immunity claim. What this means, though,

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Speaker 1: is that the Appeals Court said, if you don't take

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Speaker 1: it to the Supreme Court. Chuckkin gets to run the

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Speaker 1: clock again and start the trial and set a new

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Speaker 1: trial date for the District court. Supreme Court now says,

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Speaker 1: not so fast. Everything comes to a halt on Trump

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Speaker 1: J six immunity and about the j sixth case and

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Speaker 1: April the Supreme Court will hear it, which means Clay,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will probably decide in June at some point,

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Speaker 1: right roughly, probably June, which means that the fastest Well,

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Speaker 1: now I'll hand over the baton here. I think we've

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Speaker 1: laid the groundwork. It's now in the Supreme Court's hands.

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Speaker 1: Chuckkin can't do anything in DC. Appeals Court can't do

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Speaker 1: anything in DC. Everything turns on with the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: how fast it moves on and whether it agrees that

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Speaker 1: Trump cannot be prosecuted for official acts in office. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to take a sip of water and you

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Speaker 2: That is super complicated, and it's why I think the

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Speaker 2: average person out there just kind of hears these legal

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Speaker 2: proceedings and conceives of it as sort of a dull roar.

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Speaker 2: That's goal is to get Donald Trump. I don't think Buck.

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Speaker 2: The average person can distinguish between a civil trial with

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Speaker 2: Egene Carroll a business related investigation with Letitia James, both

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Speaker 2: of which are in New York City. Alvin Bragg's misdemeanor

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Speaker 2: that he's raising to the elevation of a felony that

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Speaker 2: is right now scheduled to start in March over business

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Speaker 2: keeping issues relating to how Stormy Daniels ended up being

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Speaker 2: compensated in effectively a hush money case back all the

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Speaker 2: City is chaos. And I have long thought that really

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Speaker 2: what Democrats wanted was Jack Smith versus Donald Trump in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: So leave aside everything going on in New York City

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Speaker 2: because I think that's a dull roar of just anti

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Speaker 2: Trump dynamics that most people have already baked in. No

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Speaker 2: matter what happens there, This is a big deal because

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court taking this case over presidential immunity means

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Speaker 2: they now have three different Supreme Court rulings that they

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Speaker 2: have to bring down at some point. One remember what

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Speaker 2: They followed up and did it in Maine. Oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, this kind of got snowed under yesterday in

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Speaker 2: in Illinois. So in theory, three different blue states have

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Speaker 2: now taken Donald Trump off the ballot. That Illinois decision

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Speaker 2: totally got lost in all the chaos. They are not

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Speaker 2: They are not going to be able to get a

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Speaker 2: Florida is still up in air. There's not really a

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Speaker 2: a total done deal. I mean that thing has collapsed

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Speaker 2: faster than a house of cards. And so Trump. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is my big picture analysis, Buck. I think it's

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Speaker 2: possible that the Biden team and the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 2: general have collectively put together the greatest failure of an

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Speaker 2: own goal used to coach soccer, and own goal that

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Speaker 2: they have scored on themselves, maybe in the history of

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Speaker 2: modern American politics, because they have managed to unite a

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Speaker 2: huge segment of the population behind Trump based on these

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Speaker 1: If we were to take a step back, this almost

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Speaker 1: turns into a metaphysical discussion. They have turned the law

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Speaker 1: upside down in the name of doing justice, and in

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Speaker 1: doing so have committed a tremendous injustice that can only

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Speaker 1: be set right by Donald Trump winning because of the

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Speaker 1: injustice that they did in the name of justice. Everybody

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Speaker 1: with me on this one. The only way that this

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Speaker 1: it's still wrong what they've done. But the only way

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Speaker 1: the Democrats seem to be catapulting Donald Trump into the

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Speaker 1: presidency for four more years. Look, you could even take

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Speaker 1: this back to the primary when Ron DeSantis was gaining

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Speaker 1: So we are in a very bizarre situation where the

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Speaker 1: very Democrat plan to do anything to stop Trump may

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Speaker 1: be the thing that actually makes him president. Yes, one

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Speaker 1: we all have to know the Fat Lady has not sung.

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Speaker 1: We understand that this is still a long ways out.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, it seems to me that they're going to

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Speaker 1: would have to violate the deal. We've talked about this,

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Speaker 1: but just by way of review, DOJ policy is you

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Speaker 1: can't bring a trial during an election or you know,

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Speaker 1: in the within a period of election season. That's right,

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Speaker 1: you can't bring in the high the election season. But

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Speaker 1: it's guidance, it's not a law. And I think given

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Speaker 1: what we've seen, all the rule breaking, all the norm

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Speaker 1: Smith is going to respect that? You think Merrick Garland

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Speaker 1: and I think what's going to be forced to happen

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Speaker 1: is they're going to try to bring this case anyway,

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Speaker 1: even though it's within the whatever three or six months,

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Speaker 1: that the DOJ says, come on, you can't do this,

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Speaker 1: and then the Trump campaign will be able to go

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court on an extremely expedited basis and say, guys,

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Speaker 1: come on, this is the most blatant election interference. This

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Speaker 2: I also think the Supreme Court has been really smart here,

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Speaker 2: and this is where I've been talking about the calendar

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Speaker 2: for people out there. I believe correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Buck they are hearing this case now. April twenty second

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Speaker 2: is the last day that they have scheduled oral arguments

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Speaker 2: on cases. I believe I'm correct on that. Staff can

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Speaker 2: I've been texting with people who are more experts on

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court timing. The last week of June is when

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Speaker 2: technically the Supreme Court's terms, all their opinions have to

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Speaker 2: so I think this decision. So there's three cases, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to understand, and it's very complicated,

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Speaker 2: and I understand if some of you are like the

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Speaker 2: calls if you have questions. Eight hundred and two A

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Speaker 2: course in law school. They have three cases now before

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. One, can Trump be removed from the ballots?

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Speaker 2: That's still a big case that they've already argued that

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Speaker 2: we haven't gotten the opinion on. Two, what is the

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Speaker 2: scope of the jan sixth related charges that represent half

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Speaker 2: of the charges brought against Trump? In other words, can

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Speaker 2: that statute be applied to all January sixth defendants? And

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Speaker 2: that's half the Jack Smith basically interfering with an official proceeding?

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Speaker 2: Can that be applied in this context? So that which

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Speaker 2: most presidential immunity, which is all three of these are

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Speaker 2: huge cases, and so I think they may release all

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Speaker 1: That's my prediction of how this goes. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to rule that he doesn't have total immunity,

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Speaker 1: so we can put that down on the record. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to define what the scope of presidential

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Speaker 1: immunity is. I think it'll be somewhat similar to what

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Speaker 1: you have at a much lower level of if you're

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Speaker 1: acting in good faith within the official scope of your duties. Right,

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Speaker 1: So this is if you know, if a cop is

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Speaker 1: he's operated. Now, even that that's a standard, it's a

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Speaker 1: little like a reasonable man's standard, but it's something right now,

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Speaker 1: we got nothing right now, it's can the president do

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Speaker 1: He's the president. So and they're making this argument which

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Speaker 1: maybe we should address because I saw this, because I

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Speaker 1: but they're saying, well, you know they had to pardon

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Speaker 1: Richard Nixon. You know, Ford had to pardon Nixon because

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Speaker 2: And they jumped away in front of other January sixth

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith skipped the affirmation that his position would have

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Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. The Supreme Court has said,

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Speaker 2: Remember Jack Smith, to your point, wanted them to go

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Speaker 1: You thought they would delay the decision. You don't think

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Speaker 2: Jan six Trump legal scholar expert Julie Kelly is with

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Speaker 1: All right, Julie, I got you right out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: You, in the immediate aftermath of the Supreme Court taking

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this.

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Speaker 2: In particular, you cited that Judge Chuckkin has said, hey,

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Speaker 2: when we restart the calendar, here the clock, there's going

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Speaker 2: Question for you, why would Judge chuck cannot toss the

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a good question. I wouldn't put anything

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Speaker 4: she has stated an emotion that she will make sure

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Speaker 4: to prepare for trial. Well, when she put a hold

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Speaker 4: March fourth. That's where all the juicy stuff takes place, right,

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Speaker 4: That's where jury selection happens. That's where they're filing in

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Speaker 4: So yes, Judge chuck Kin could kind of play a

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Speaker 1: So. So, Julie, thank you for being here. This whole

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Speaker 4: Well to your point? And I had two computers open yesterday.

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Speaker 3: As polls show.

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Speaker 4: Now the flip side, and I can get back to

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Speaker 4: You were going to see the quickest case of whiplash

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Speaker 4: It will be the toughest for DOJ to prove in

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Speaker 4: stamp like Judge Tanya Chuckkin. So it would be fascinating

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Speaker 4: Judge Cannon sets a new trial date, certainly not tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: but within the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So as you see it, you've been great on this.

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Speaker 2: You've been coming on with us for a couple of

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Speaker 1: You would if you were.

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Speaker 2: Betting right now, Julie bet only on the Alvin Bragg case,

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Speaker 2: felony bookkeeping in business charges as the only one that

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's certainly what it looks like right now,

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Speaker 4: certainly what's happening in Fulton County, where I really think

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Speaker 4: most people thought that would be the easiest win, and that,

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Speaker 4: of course is falling apart amid all the scandal and

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Speaker 4: what's happening with Nanny Willis and Nathan Wade and.

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Speaker 3: The entire cabal that she put together.

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Speaker 4: So it could be that Alvin Bragg gets the first

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Speaker 4: bite of the apple, which of course no one wanted.

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Speaker 4: You know, the DC trial was supposed to start this Monday.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think of what Washington, d C Was supposed

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Speaker 4: to look like. I mean popular, over populated, overrun, with

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Speaker 4: journalists from around the country and around the world preparing

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Speaker 4: for this history making trial. And instead now we've got

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Speaker 4: hearing tomorrow, which will be interesting, but now they're stuck

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Speaker 4: with the Elvin Bragg prosecution. So this was not what Democrats,

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Speaker 4: never Trump Republicans is certainly the corporate media had in

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Speaker 4: mind when they were looking at twenty twenty four in

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's legal problems.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Julie Kelly, her substack is declassified. If you

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Speaker 1: want to weekly update and deep dive into all of

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Speaker 1: these matters, Julie, I know you're not somebody who gets

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Speaker 1: far ahead of what has already happened. Right, We're not

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Speaker 1: in the prediction business, and we're also not in the

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Speaker 1: mind reading business. From what you can see though, based

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Speaker 1: on the realities of the judicial mechanisms at play here

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Speaker 1: for the various cases, do you think the Democrats, notable

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith and others are feeling not just heat but

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Speaker 1: a bit of panic at how the schedules here are

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Speaker 1: likely to play out? Or is there something that we're missing?

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Speaker 1: I keep looking for the thing that's going to hit

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Speaker 1: us that we don't see yet, right.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that's a very good question. So we

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Speaker 4: can't trust the system. We can't certainly trust DOJ or

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Speaker 4: even most of these judges. So I think that's a

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Speaker 4: really good question. Well, what could jump out next? What

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Speaker 4: could happen? I'm not really sure with Jack Smith, And

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Speaker 4: you're starting to see some criticism of Jack Smith and

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Speaker 4: Merrick Garland for waiting until August of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 4: to bring the j six indictment. Certainly the indictment and

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Speaker 4: classified documents was June, and then a superseding indictment in

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Speaker 4: July of twenty twenty three. Knowing that all of these

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Speaker 4: unprecedented matters we're going to have to be hashed out

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Speaker 4: and ultimately resolved at the Supreme court, So I don't

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Speaker 4: know what he does next. Does he bring a superseding indictment?

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Speaker 4: Can he I'm not sure that he can with the

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Speaker 4: proceedings on hold in Washington. Look, there's rumblings, and this

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Speaker 4: is in the court motions, that there was a third

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Speaker 4: FBI investigation into Donald Trump. We don't know what that

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Speaker 4: was about. But Jack Smith has asked in the classified

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Speaker 4: documents case to keep that the details in the name

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Speaker 4: of THATI investigation under seal. Judge Cannon has said no,

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Speaker 4: because to my knowledge, the investigation's over and we need

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Speaker 4: to publish that information. The public has a right to know.

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Speaker 4: So is there another investigation we still don't know about?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: Look, this is always filled with surprises, as you've noted,

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Speaker 4: So is there something else on the horizon? Will they

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Speaker 4: go to any extreme to salvage these cases? Absolutely? Will

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Speaker 4: Judge Chuck and go along with it. Absolutely. So it's

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Speaker 4: to your point, it's hard to predict. But the only

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Speaker 4: prediction is you can't predict what's going to happen because every.

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Speaker 3: Day is something new.

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Speaker 2: Last question for you, Julie, because the way you lay

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Speaker 2: this out, I'm now looking at if Alvin Bragg is

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Speaker 2: the only guy who gets to bring a case. I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if they're just going to go absolutely bonkers on

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Speaker 2: that case and try to put Trump in jail or

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Speaker 2: in prison because they know there's not any federal or

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Speaker 2: Atlanta case that is going to come next. And so

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Speaker 2: in the same way that they've hit him with a

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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty million dollar fine an eighty eight

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Speaker 2: million or whatever it is in Egene Carroll, why do

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Speaker 2: we think they're not going to try to put him

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Speaker 2: in prison on this ridiculous bookkeeping charge that they've brought

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Speaker 2: to me That would be the sign of desperation. Just

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Speaker 2: do the absolute maximum that you could to him there

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Speaker 2: to try to get the pound of flesh.

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Speaker 4: They definitely could. But look, that is not going to

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Speaker 4: satisfy the Democrats. They wanted the January sixth conviction. They

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Speaker 4: wanted the insurrection narrative with a judicial and a jury

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Speaker 4: impromater on it, because we see all of the mileage

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Speaker 4: that they're getting out of the alleged insurrection even though

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is not charged with insurrection for January sixth

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Speaker 4: in the indictment, and half of those counts, to your point,

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Speaker 4: are at risk by the Supreme Court in the fifteen

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Speaker 4: twelve C two obstruction of an official preceding case that

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is now reviewing. They wanted the insurrection

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Speaker 4: alleged insurrection conviction because not only could they use that

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Speaker 4: against Trump that he cannot hold office regardless of what

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Speaker 4: happens in the Colorado Supreme Court case, which will be

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Speaker 4: reversed by the US Supreme Court, they wanted to use

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Speaker 4: that against any Republican involved in the events of January

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Speaker 4: sixth attempting to vet the results of the electoral college.

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Speaker 4: Anyone who signed up senator or House member who is

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Speaker 4: going to challenge those votes on January six they want

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Speaker 4: to apply that insurrection label to them. They've already tried to,

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Speaker 4: but if he had a conviction in Washington, they would

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Speaker 4: have much more leverage to do so. And I think

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Speaker 4: that that is part of their pain. If you get

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Speaker 4: in convictions, some jail time with Alvin Bragg, okay, but

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Speaker 4: it doesn't support they're overall narrative that they've had since

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Speaker 4: January sixth, more than three years now, that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: January six to keep Donald Trump in power.

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Speaker 2: Julie, keep up the fantastic work. I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you again because who knows what's next, but man,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling there will be Trump legal news

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Speaker 1: Carol, great to have you as always. You were just

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Speaker 1: down at the US Mexico border, and I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling that, despite what the Associated Press and others, including

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Speaker 1: this White House want people to believe, it is not

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Speaker 1: the most secure and even militarized border of all time.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What did you see?

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys? Thanks so much for having me well. I

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Speaker 3: came back feeling very very negative about the future of

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Speaker 3: our country because it is a disaster down there. And

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Speaker 3: one of the kind of things that I want to

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Speaker 3: tell people is that none of our walls or border

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Speaker 3: patrol things are working at all. In fact, if you

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Speaker 3: are down there, I was in McCallen, Texas. There are

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Speaker 3: three different walls. They call it George W. Bush's Wall,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's Wall, Greg Abbott's Wall. None of the walls

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Speaker 3: are finished. They're all have large gaps, and the thing

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Speaker 3: is that they're all on American soil, so that means

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Speaker 3: both sides of the wall are the US. Our policy

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Speaker 3: is if you get to America during the Joe Biden administration,

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Speaker 3: you get processed. So once you've reached the wall, which

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Speaker 3: in most cases you could simply walk around, you're already

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Speaker 3: in the stage where we're going to process you as

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Speaker 3: a potential refugee. Now are these people refugees? I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: I was a refugee to this country. We came to

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Speaker 3: the US with like one hundred dollars, and we had

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Speaker 3: very specific reasons for being here for coming and it

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Speaker 3: wasn't economic, and we had people in places to help us.

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Speaker 3: What we're seeing at the border is these people dressed

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Speaker 3: in like fabulous clothing with iPhones, and they're here not

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Speaker 3: to work in agriculture, like we're often told. We spoke

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Speaker 3: to agricultural workers. They absolutely do not have any illegal

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Speaker 3: immigrants working in their farms, and they say that basically,

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Speaker 3: the people that are coming don't want those kinds of jobs.

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Speaker 3: They're too rural. They want to be in the cities.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of the things that we're facing are

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Speaker 3: just really scary because I don't see any action from

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration to fix any of it.

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Speaker 1: Carol, I'm fast. I got so many questions for you here.

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Speaker 2: But when you see your mom, when you see what

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Speaker 2: happened in Athens and the way that Lake and Riley

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Speaker 2: has cut through, and we know Biden is talking later

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Speaker 2: this afternoon at the border, Trump will as well, but

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Speaker 2: I don't believe Joe Biden has spoken the name Lake

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Speaker 2: and Riley at all. What are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: degree to which that story has cut through and seems

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Speaker 2: to have personified for many people the dangers that in

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Speaker 2: a wide open southern border has. And we talk a

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Speaker 2: lot about moms in the way that they're going to respond.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts when you see something like that

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Speaker 2: and think about, I know you've got three kids, I've

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Speaker 2: got read something an active violence like that being perpetrated

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Speaker 2: by a guy who should have never been here.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's too prong, right, So first of all, somebody

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Speaker 3: who should have never been here and commits this heinous

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Speaker 3: act murders this girl. I think that, you know, we

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Speaker 3: have to say, why are we not vetting people who

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Speaker 3: are coming to this country? Why are we letting in anybody?

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Speaker 3: We have no idea who's coming in. We have no

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Speaker 3: idea where they're going, or what they're doing, or what

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Speaker 3: their point is to be here. But the second prong

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Speaker 3: is that even if he was an American citizen, our

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Speaker 3: legal system is such that you get arrested and you

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Speaker 3: get out the same day, and there's very little repercussions

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Speaker 3: for a lot of crimes in a lot of these

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Speaker 3: places that have this far left d eight thing going

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Speaker 3: on where they're just not prosecuting crimes. I was in

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Speaker 3: New York yesterday. You know there's the signs, oh time

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Speaker 3: Squares gun free zone. Yet they had an illegal immigrant

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Speaker 3: shooting up a store recently. I guess he didn't see

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Speaker 3: the sign. So we're doing crazy things. We're letting in

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Speaker 3: people we don't know who they are. But we're also

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Speaker 3: not prosecuting any crimes, not just the crime of coming

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Speaker 3: across our border illegally, but once you're here, you get

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Speaker 3: to beat up police officers in Times Square, for example,

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Speaker 3: and be let out the next day. This kind of

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Speaker 3: system is the demise of our country. We can't go

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Speaker 3: on this way.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Carol Markowitz, and you should check out the

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Speaker 1: Carroll Markowitz podcast, which is in the clay In Buck

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Speaker 1: Network for more about her journey down to the border. Carol,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering did you get a chance to speak to

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Speaker 1: border patrol? Was it only the Border patrol union guys?

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Speaker 1: Because those who are active federal employees not in the

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Speaker 1: union aren't allowed to talk to you. I've had that

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Speaker 1: experience before. I'm just wondering, did you get to speak

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Speaker 1: to the folks on the front lines.

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Speaker 3: Well, I spoke to somebody who's retired. He was the

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Speaker 3: Border patrol chief in Yuma and his name is Chief Clem.

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Speaker 3: He's on Fox quite often. But he told me that

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Speaker 3: what we don't understand about the border or is that

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Speaker 3: it is so much policy related that it used to

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Speaker 3: be that they would turn people away and say you're

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Speaker 3: not eligible for even a hearing, But now everybody gets

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Speaker 3: a hearing, so it takes years and years the Ice

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Speaker 3: does not have the capacity to hold these people, so

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Speaker 3: they end up letting them free into the country. Do

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Speaker 3: they ever come back, you know, who knows, maybe maybe yes,

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Speaker 3: maybe no, but it's going to be years before they

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Speaker 3: have their court date. So it really is a story

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Speaker 3: of policy and the fact that you know, Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: recently floated an executive order that can maybe make some

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Speaker 3: real fixes to the border. It really shows that none

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Speaker 3: of the bills that they proposed in Congress, none of

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Speaker 3: this really matters. It's the policy from the president. The

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Speaker 3: fact that these numbers have gone up so significantly during

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration is evidence that what the Trump administration

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Speaker 3: was doing was completely different, and if you go back

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Speaker 3: to those policies, we could see a major change at

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Speaker 3: the border. Of course, the Biden administration has to appease

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Speaker 3: as far left base, and so we're not seeing that happen.

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Speaker 2: If you were advising the Biden team, Carol Buck and

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Speaker 2: I like to play counter, you know, go to the

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Speaker 2: other side and try to advise them. They seem to

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Speaker 2: be trying to run abortion. They seem to be trying

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Speaker 2: to run jan sixth. Obviously, the trip to the border

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Speaker 2: is an acknowledgment that right now Republicans are winning on

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Speaker 2: that issue, and they're trying to at least pretend that

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Speaker 2: they're involved in that in some way. How do they

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Speaker 2: sell Biden? What would you tell them is actually a

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Speaker 2: compelling argument?

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Speaker 1: Pull out? Today?

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Speaker 2: Biden is losing in all seven swing states, didn't have

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Speaker 2: great numbers coming out of Michigan. His age is not

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Speaker 2: getting any better, His mental acuity is certainly not going

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Speaker 2: to improve.

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Speaker 1: What do they have to sell at this point?

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Speaker 3: I think what the selling point from Democrats would be,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that they were ever right on

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Speaker 3: the border. So you know, again I'm playing the Democrat here,

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Speaker 3: but it's to say that, look, we wanted to allow

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Speaker 3: people to come in and go through a process, and

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Speaker 3: then that process was overrun. Who could see that coming?

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Speaker 3: I mean the fact that every single Democrat in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty raise their hands on the stage for free healthcare

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Speaker 3: even for a legal immigrants, obviously making us the health

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Speaker 3: clinic for the whole wide world. You know, to say

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Speaker 3: that maybe they had lofty goals in terms of helping

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Speaker 3: people come here, but then those goals ran into reality

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Speaker 3: and now we need to have some border protections. Kind

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Speaker 3: of talk down the far left from their insane positions

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Speaker 3: of open borders and kind of show that we can't

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Speaker 3: actually house the world. Point to like Bernie Sanders who

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Speaker 3: has said many times in history that we cannot simply

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Speaker 3: take in every single person who wants to come into America.

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Speaker 3: It's not feasible. So Biden needs to kind of get

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Speaker 3: control of the conversation from the far left and say

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Speaker 3: that we can't go on this way.

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Speaker 1: Carol, what's up next for you? And the Carrol mark

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Speaker 1: Which podcast, which is on this phenomenal podcast network playing

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Speaker 1: Buck Network, but it's a great network.

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Speaker 3: It's just so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: On the Carol Markowitz Show, we talk about living a

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Speaker 3: better life and how to do that and all the

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Speaker 3: ways that you can improve your situation on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: It comes out Mondays and Thursdays. Today I have Nancy

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Speaker 3: Bramwoman on, She's a fantastic writer. On Monday, I've got

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Speaker 3: the blog father Instapundit, Glenn Reynolds himself. And then a

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Speaker 3: week from today Thursday, i have Bethany Mendel, my co

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Speaker 3: author on the book Stolen Youth. It was a bestseller.

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Speaker 3: It came out a year ago next Thursday, and we

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Speaker 3: talk about what we've learned, what we've seen happened to

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Speaker 3: children since then. We talk about she's been canceled many

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Speaker 3: many times, so which one of her cancelations was her

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Speaker 3: favorite and things like that. So listen up, Carol.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, and this is a very important one.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: dig at the Yeah, it's going to be a big one,

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Speaker 1: this big one.

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Speaker 2: How would you assess Buck Sexton and Mason sext and

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Speaker 2: firearm training experts? Because I understand that you have become

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Speaker 2: somewhat of a marksman thanks to one Bucket Mason section.

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Speaker 2: But the duo of Buck gene Wick, if you didn't

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Speaker 2: know already, they're.

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Speaker 3: So fantastic, the Sexton brothers, I mean really American heroes.

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Speaker 3: They took my husband and I was shooting at an

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Speaker 3: open air shooting range in South Florida. We had the

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Speaker 3: best time. I learned so much. I feel like I

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Speaker 3: walked away from there having my skills improved so much.

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Speaker 3: But also it was just such a fun day. And

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Speaker 3: the Sextons are fantastic. I mean, you know, I got

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Speaker 3: to say we had we had.

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Speaker 1: To pry the we had we had to pry the

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Speaker 1: ar out of Carol's husband's head, and he was like

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Speaker 1: he was ready to keep going. He's like, we're done,

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Speaker 1: We're shy. We've been out here for four hours, buddy.

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Speaker 2: You know. I bet, though, seriously too, Carol, that a

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Speaker 2: lot of Jewish people who might have had some antipathy

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Speaker 2: towards firearms in the wake of October seventh and the

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Speaker 2: fallout there, I bet that data would reflect that Jewish

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Speaker 2: ownership of guns has skyrocketed.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm seeing this definitely anecdotally in my own life. Look,

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Speaker 3: I was always pro Second Amendment, but it took October

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Speaker 3: seventh for me to go to the gun store and

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Speaker 3: buy guns, so that that change really is something. Also,

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Speaker 3: one of my first times, maybe like early mid October,

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Speaker 3: going shooting after it happened, I'm in a shooting range

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Speaker 3: in South Florida, and I got my Jewish star on

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Speaker 3: and this girl comes out of the shooting range and

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Speaker 3: she's got her du Ast star on, and we kind

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Speaker 3: of give each other a nod like this is what

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Speaker 3: we're doing. This is how we have to live. And look,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're lucky to be Americans. We're lucky to

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Speaker 3: have that right, and we're lucky to have the ability

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Speaker 3: to arm ourselves, and we absolutely should do it, whether

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Speaker 3: you're Jewish or not.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I know Clay said last question, but when he

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Speaker 1: does that, I like to throw in three or four

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Speaker 1: more questions. I do that sometimes too, Yeah, like this

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Speaker 1: is the final thing, and then five minutes later, like, wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, we're not done that. Yeah, you talk about

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Speaker 1: on your podcast. I think this is so good too,

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Speaker 1: that there's things that people can do to make their

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Speaker 1: life lives better. You mentioned and I appreciate it that

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Speaker 1: I told people on your podcast when I was a

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Speaker 1: guest read at night. I'm just wondering if there's another

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Speaker 1: one that you would want to throw into the mix

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Speaker 1: right now that I was going to ask. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna put Clay on the hotspot too. Something. And you

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Speaker 1: have to be serious about it, Clay. It can't be

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Speaker 1: you know, watch more sports, something that makes your life. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe that does make your life better, actually, but Carol,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to tell you that a lot of

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Speaker 3: people say the same one, and they all admit that

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Speaker 3: they struggle with it. But it's get off your phone,

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Speaker 3: use your phone less, beyond the internet less, just be

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Speaker 3: less connected all the time when you're with your family,

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Speaker 3: be with your family. And I know these are you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe it sounds cheesy, but it actually does help

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Speaker 3: people to hear the advice. I think that that's really

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Speaker 3: what the thing is that when you tell people, Look,

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Speaker 3: I think you know, being on your phone less would

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Speaker 3: be helpful to you. I think people need to hear it.

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Speaker 3: I need to hear it sometimes. But remind me give

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Speaker 3: us for living.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I want to hear Clay's best one. But I'll

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Speaker 1: just add into this I've started. I have a first

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Speaker 1: of all, you're not to put your cell phones on

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Speaker 1: the table when people are eating, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people do this occasionally. I'll even do it now. I'll

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Speaker 1: do a cell phone sweep and put them off from

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Speaker 1: the table. You know, I'm talking about it sitting down

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Speaker 1: for dinner, not you know, having a quick bite for

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Speaker 1: lunch or something, and people are running to get to

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Speaker 1: the office, but or running around the office or something.

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Speaker 1: But taking the phones out of your pocket, out of

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Speaker 1: your hand and away from the dinner table, so at

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Speaker 1: least everyone's present during dinner. You're not hearing. You know

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Speaker 1: from the vibrations and Star Clay, you buy into this one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent buy into that. And I've been trying to

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Speaker 2: limit how much time I use my phone. My thing

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Speaker 2: would be from a parenting perspective, and I'm curious. I

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Speaker 2: know Carol's got three. I believe as well, finding things

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Speaker 2: that you can do with one or two of the

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Speaker 2: kids solo with yourself, to give them your complete attention

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Speaker 2: at some point in time. Because what I find is

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Speaker 2: I've got sixteen, thirteen and nine. Every day's kind of

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Speaker 2: a frenzy with all of their activities. But if I

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Speaker 2: can take one of them to go get pizza, or

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Speaker 2: I can take one of them to go get ice

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Speaker 2: cream or something where they have my complete attention, that

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Speaker 2: is I think invaluable, even if it's just a you know,

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes or an hour that you can pull out.

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Speaker 1: That's very good. Clay, Clay coming through on the spot here,

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Speaker 1: Clay's not messing around. Have you found that to be

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Speaker 1: true to Carol?

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Speaker 2: I mean with multiple kids, that if you can give

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Speaker 2: one the focus for even if it's just an hour,

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Speaker 2: it's invaluable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they love it so much. They love being

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Speaker 3: one on one with you. It's it's such a you know,

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Speaker 3: benefit to them. Yeah, you know. I also like to

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Speaker 3: travel one on one with the kids. I haven't done

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Speaker 3: it with my youngest yet. He's the forty one, so

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be see some game or something sometime together.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the one on one time they

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Speaker 3: love it. I love it. It's so necessary and it

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Speaker 3: really gives them the attention that they need.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic Carol Mark WITHZ. Everybody check out the Carol Markwoitz Show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Bribe the Clay and Buck podcast Network. You'll

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Speaker 1: find it right in there, and look for her latest

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Speaker 1: on The New York Post. Carol, thanks so much, as

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Speaker 1: as great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to do a little double takes. This

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Speaker 1: play will say, you see you see the latest on

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Speaker 1: the our cutsheet, our soundbites, actualities from the news cycle

889
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: of the course of the day. And and I'm like

890
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: that that can't be right. But I forget the rule,

891
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: the rule that we should always keep in mind, which

892
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: is that there is nothing that is too stupid to

893
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: be said on the view. I mean, this is this

894
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: is an ironclad there what whatever you think would be

895
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Speaker 1: too stupid to see on or here on television, the

896
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Speaker 1: view will break through that rule, will will obliterate it.

897
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Speaker 1: And in that sense, at least I I can I

898
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Speaker 1: can appreciate the game. I can appreciate the predictability of it.

899
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Speaker 1: There's nothing that is too dumb. And uh, this one,

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Speaker 1: I say, was close to the line for me. I

901
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: don't even I haven't even heard this we're just they're

902
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: really saying, am I right in this? Yeah? This should

903
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: just arrest the people. He does does not like team

904
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: do we? Is this a real thing? I sit here,

905
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's not. Do we have

906
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Speaker 1: this clip? Oh yeah, it's ready to roll, We'll be Yeah.

907
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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's hear it.

908
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Speaker 5: Let's look at a scenario where the Supreme Court says, yes,

909
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Speaker 5: he has that he has all those rights. He is

910
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Speaker 5: immven from everything. You know what Joe Biden could do?

911
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: Says he is presidently president whoa, he could throw every

912
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Speaker 5: Republican in jail. I mean he could, I mean.

913
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Speaker 2: He can.

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Speaker 5: What this means is it he can do anything?

915
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could.

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Speaker 5: Dismiss everybody's debt. You know, there's a whole bunch of

917
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: great stuff that could happen. But let's let's really look

918
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Speaker 5: at what this means.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So hold look, I love sometimes good on radio

920
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Speaker 1: because my favorite part is is the audience kind of

921
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Speaker 1: clapping like yeah, lock up all the Republicans. It's like,

922
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Speaker 1: wait a second, I think you're going a little far

923
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Speaker 1: with this one. I don't think you're supposed to clap

924
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: that part of Whoopy Goldberg's legal analysis. What do you

925
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Speaker 1: make of this one, Clay.

926
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Speaker 2: I wonder what they have so for people out there

927
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Speaker 2: who have never done a television show, never even been

928
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Speaker 2: involved in what a television show is like radio. For

929
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Speaker 2: Bucking me, we sit down before the show and we're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: here's the three things that we're going to talk about

931
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Speaker 2: off the top, what do you like? What do you

932
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Speaker 2: and we it's very free flowing, so there isn't a

933
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Speaker 2: in the open we're going to talk at about this,

934
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Speaker 2: and there's not a rundown right of every single topic.

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Speaker 1: People ask me sometimes who writes our scripts? Yes, to

936
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Speaker 1: which I say, we don't have any.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, And some of you are saying, yeah, we know,

938
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Speaker 2: but yes, there is no organized script television. The best

939
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Speaker 2: description of television I ever heard was Colin Cowherd saying,

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Speaker 2: if you put makeup on, something is very artificial about

941
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Speaker 2: what you're doing right on in media, right Buck, and I.

942
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Speaker 1: Don't sit here with makeup on doing radio.

943
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Speaker 2: But you're getting dressed up to appear in a way

944
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Speaker 2: that you would ordinarily not appear. And so they have

945
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Speaker 2: these meetings and they know all of the topics on

946
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Speaker 2: the view. Television is very scripted because they have different video,

947
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Speaker 2: the b role that they run everything else. I'm just

948
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Speaker 2: kind of taking you behind the curtain, so to speak,

949
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Speaker 2: of how a television show is put together. I was

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Speaker 2: on a daily television show for four years. You can

951
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Speaker 2: look at the entire script. You know exactly what the

952
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: conversations are, topics, order everything. They know all this on

953
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Speaker 2: the view book. And so they had a pre meeting

954
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Speaker 2: discussion and what pe Goldberg said, I'm going to say

955
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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden should just put all Republicans in jail,

956
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Speaker 2: and everybody who was a part of her production team said,

957
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Speaker 2: you know what will be that is great? You should

958
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Speaker 2: definitely do that. When do they ever tell a woman

959
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Speaker 2: on the view that is really stupid?

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't say that.

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Speaker 2: Has that conversation ever occurred? And if so, I would

962
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Speaker 2: love to know what doesn't make the air? What would

963
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Speaker 2: they try to argue? But for producers protecting them because

964
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Speaker 2: this is crazy. First of all, there's something called the

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Speaker 2: writ of habeas corpus. You can't just randomly grab someone

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Speaker 2: unless it's suspended and throw them in prison for no

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Speaker 2: reason at all.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: The View is the dumbest show on television. But it

970
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Speaker 2: also has the dumbest audience. Because you mentioned it, Buck,

971
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Speaker 2: a bunch of them were clapping yeah, like yeah, whoopee.

972
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden should throw every Republican in jail. And the

973
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Speaker 2: lack of understanding of what the presidential immunity argument is

974
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Speaker 2: is really Again, it's either she's wilfully ignorant or she's

975
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: so dumb her brain does not work well. Because and

976
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Speaker 2: we've made this argument before, but I think it's significant.

977
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Speaker 2: If the president of the United States picked up a

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Speaker 2: paperweight and dashed an assistant in the head and killed them,

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Speaker 2: the president would be charged with murder. The argument that

980
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Speaker 2: Trump is making is that his presidential powers allow him

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Speaker 2: to challenge the results of the twenty twenty election and

982
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Speaker 2: are not criminal in nature. Now, this is going to be,

983
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Speaker 2: I think, a really difficult question to answer because at

984
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Speaker 2: some point the scope of presidential behavior, like I just used,

985
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Speaker 2: I think most of you out there would say, yes,

986
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Speaker 2: if the president picked up a paperweight in the oval

987
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Speaker 2: office and he smashed somebody in the head with it

988
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Speaker 2: and it killed them, the president would not be able

989
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: to argue, my presidential duties protect me from being prosecuted

990
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: for this.

991
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: The president doesn't drive a car.

992
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: But if he were drunk, and if he were behind

993
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: the wheel and he hit a pedestrian, the president would

994
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 2: be theoretically responsible for this. Okay, where is the line,

995
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: it's actually super fascinating, regardless of your politics. Where is

996
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: the line that presidential powers do not.

997
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: Extend to Well? Is that again?

998
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: I think it's powers? Yea, this exists with interesting this discussion.

999
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: This. I remember when I was a CIA analyst and

1000
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Speaker 1: you know, lowly CIA analyst among many, and and we

1001
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: talked to legal ones and we're you know, getting into

1002
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. And you know, if someone were

1003
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: to attack us in the scope of our duties, let's say, right, so,

1004
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: if somebody were to break into Langley and you know,

1005
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Speaker 1: try to kill you because you're a CI, you know

1006
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: that that's obviously very much a federal issue in all

1007
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: federal protections. But if I'm like walking home at night

1008
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: and someone sticks up, you know, sticks me up with

1009
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: a gun or something, I'm just another person who's getting robbed. Right,

1010
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: So there's the scope. This goes to scope of employment.

1011
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: We would talk about scope, by the way, no matter

1012
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: what you do, right, And so for a president, I

1013
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: think what they're looking to have defined here is is

1014
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: it only within the scope of presidential action? And if

1015
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: it's within the scope of presidential action and good faith,

1016
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: then is it non prosecutable? Because the alternative here would be,

1017
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, you'd have a situation where anytime a president

1018
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: did something that the next administration didn't like, well, we

1019
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: can probably you know, he committed war crimes with that

1020
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: missile strike that he ordered as commander in chief. So

1021
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Speaker 1: he goes to prison, now, which destroys our representative government. Obviously,

1022
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, Buck, We talked about this

1023
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: early when we started the show. Just to be clear,

1024
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: your paper weight example. No one argues, if that's correct,

1025
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: that smashing someone in the head with a paper weight

1026
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: is within presidential you know, scope of their job.

1027
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: And that's an easy argument. A challenging one more so.

1028
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: And this is what lawyers have to do, because you

1029
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: have to craft a rule that will handle future uncertain circumstances.

1030
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Do you remember, Buck, the story where it appears the

1031
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: Biden administration and totally got an Afghan terrorist allegation wrong

1032
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: and just blew up the home of what appeared to

1033
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: be an innocent guy.

1034
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: They thought that his car was filled with bombs, killed

1035
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: him in six kids. They hit him with a drone

1036
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: strike because they had such a mess of debacle on

1037
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: their hands. Or in the app we were on air

1038
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Speaker 1: together when the afghanistraw they hit a drone strike with

1039
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: a vehicle. They killed six kids in the vehicle. Yeah,

1040
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: it was totally wrong. The administration got that wrong. That was,

1041
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a murder and inadvertent murder. But pretend

1042
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: that that happens and the president suddenly is held responsible

1043
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: for that failure, that would and I think you would

1044
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: speak to this better than almost anybody Buck, that would

1045
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: make it very hard for the president to be in

1046
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: charge of foreign affairs because the next time that he

1047
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: thinks there's a terrorist, maybe that guy would have blown

1048
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: somebody up. But if he thinks he's going to go

1049
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: to prison because he inadvertently murdered someone who was innocent

1050
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: and he's held for it, he can't protect the United

1051
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: States in the next move. That would be, in my opinion,

1052
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: even though it's an error, clear presidential authority. Yes, acting

1053
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: within your scope as commander in chief, ordering a military

1054
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: strike in a foreign, foreign area of ongoing combat and

1055
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: military operations is one thing walking out on the street

1056
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: to go get an ice cream cone, let's say, and

1057
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: getting into an argument with some guy and stabbing him

1058
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: in the neck. You don't get to say, well, I'm

1059
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: the president, so that's fine. That's a different These are

1060
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: different things. We can understand that there's a distinction here

1061
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: between scope of president and so to Trump's thing, scope

1062
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: of presidential authority is I think that's shed in the election.

1063
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm challenging it in court, and I don't think that

1064
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: this is on the up and up. We need to

1065
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: be with this the scope of your Now, if Trump

1066
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: had to be clear, if Trump had argued, you know,

1067
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm sending in the military to burn down the Capitol

1068
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: and I'm now dictator for life, that would not be

1069
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: within the scope of presidential action.

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Speaker 2: But I think you can you as you all listen

1071
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: out there, the challenge of being a judge, and this

1072
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: is what the Supreme Court is grappling with right now.

1073
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: There's a great line where it says tough cases make

1074
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: bad law.

1075
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

1076
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: That means if you try to look at what happened

1077
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty election and you try to craft

1078
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: an argument about what is the scope of presidential powers.

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Speaker 2: This is a tough case and it can make bad

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Speaker 2: law because whatever precedent you use to set with this

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Speaker 2: is going to be really difficult. Now'll give you one

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Speaker 2: these challenges outside of the role of presidential authority, and

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Speaker 2: I think you'll appreciate it, Buck, and I know many

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Speaker 2: of you out there will as well. What is a

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Speaker 2: basis to know in every single scenario, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: so you try to come up with a rule that

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Speaker 2: you can teach a twenty four year old police officer

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Speaker 2: requirements of the Constitution. And you can imagine in a

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Speaker 2: very difficult to determine whether you can pull someone over,

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Speaker 1: Is and again, the law enforcement sometimes is given the

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Speaker 2: So these are the complexities of the world that we

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