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Like we mentioned coaches and execks and scouts. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: I'll get into this, and they get down to the 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: top ten. So the last few years, the number one 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: has been Patrick Mahomes. But will there be changes this year? 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: Drum roll no, ain't no changes, ain't no. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is number one again. However a little bit 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: of controversy. He is his lead. The gap has lessened. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: The gap is slimmer because you got guys keep creeping 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: up on them. So it goes like this number one Mahomes. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: Number two, Josh Allen, you have Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: Number five is where it gets interesting to me. Jade 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: and Daniels, Yes, and then so on. We'll go down 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: the long list a little bit later on, but I 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: want to start with this Patrick Mahomes. Part of the 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: reason if you read the article, some execs says, which 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: is kind of how I felt. 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: And I had to argue with Rob last year. His 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: numbers weren't great. 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: If I just told you a guy had twenty eight 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: and eleven, I mean, that's solid, you know, But if 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: I told you Patrick Mahomes, but I wanted a little 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: bit better on your hat right now, you have a goat, 35 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: and he was a legit person competing to be the goat. 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: Those aren't goat like numbers. So this is my thing 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: that I pointed out that some of these anonymous scouts 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: and gyms and all that pointed out as well. His 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: offensive line was bad. He was running around for his life. Also, 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: his wide receivers, as we know it decimated with injuries. 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: So he was making the best out of what he had. 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes mama ain't have everything, but she gonna 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: make the best of what she had. We gonna eat 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: and we're gonna eat good again, and in this case 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: that's him winning to the tune of fifteen and two. 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: So that was one of the things pointed out. But 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: also they said, other guys getting better. Yep, some said 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: Joe Burrows and playing the best football last couple sear. 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: Some guys said lamar Jay, you know, so on and so 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: forth down the line. 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: Sure. 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: So my thing with this is when it comes to 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, it's really difficult to kind of explain because 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: me and Robb g were discussing this. Patrick Mahomes has 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: done something that every ten to fifteen years a guy 56 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: will do in a sport, and it'll happen in other 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: sports only maybe twenty twenty five years, where we have 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: a handful of guys who have done this. Carrie, I 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: think you'll feel me. Patrick Mahomes isn't rare air. Patrick 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: Mahomes is in the as of recent NBA wise Lebron 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods with golf, Serena Williams, Tennis Tom Brady playing 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: the same position in the same league in the NFL, 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: And what that is is, at a certain point they 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: had so much winning and they did it early, or 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: at least in a certain span of years, and they dominated. 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: And so they had the numbers, they had the wins, 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: and they did it in a unique style that was 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: different that all of a sudden in your psyche, well, 69 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: they're just gonna win. And there was a period in 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: time where Lebron was just that guy, He's gonna win MVP. 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: If I said, hey, who's gonna win this series? You know, 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: you say, I gotta go with Lebron and he might lose, 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: and just like Patrick Holmes has lost in Super Bowls, 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: but you're like, I'm going with that guy. Even when 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods started to get banged up a little bit 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: started to be a little less than he was. If 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: I said, who are you putting the money on his 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: turn this in the US Open? Who'd have Tiger Woods? 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: Who'd you putting the money on Augusta Serena Williams has 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: a baby, comes back, she's don her best shape, she's 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: trying to work it out, she has some injuries. If 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: I said, hell, but who you got who's winning the 83 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: Australian Open. Serena Williams, Tom Brady, he's in his forties, 84 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: he's this, he's trying to figure out out he's eating 85 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: avocado ice cream. And if I said who you got 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: to win, you say Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes has 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: gotten to that point because I get that year by 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: year he hasn't been the best player. Yes, for the 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: last few years, last couple of years in particular, season 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: by season, I get the last couple of years. You 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: can look at other guys' numbers. They're doing it more dazzling, 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: more beautifully style of football. 93 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: It's more spectacular to watch. 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: They're blowing people out regularly, routinely, where he was ekeing 95 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: by people off last year. 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: But when it comes down. 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: To it, it is difficult for me to put any 98 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: of them in a position where I would pick them 99 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: over him in a game, in a meaningful game, if 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: it's a playoff game, a super Bowl game, and going 101 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: up against and now the other guys are in his division. 102 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: But let's just say in the playoff game, I can't 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: pick against or not his division is conference, I can't 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: pick against him. And that's a credit to the run 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: he had, the run of Lebron had, the run of Brady, 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: the run of attacker where you're like until I see 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: otherwise routinely. I gotta go with the guy that routinely 108 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: is in the Super Bowl, win, loser, draw routinely there 109 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: routinely fifteen and two. Yeah, I mean, and everything you 110 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: said is correct, it's right, I feel, Yeah, the Stallion 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: Klay Thompson girlfriend. But there is a butt right because 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: he went in by the way undred percent. 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: No, you got one hundred percent. Like everything you said 114 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: is right. 115 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 5: But there is a level of the expectations that we 116 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: have been accustomed to expecting from Patrick Mahomes, the level 117 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: of play, the things that he does. When he first 118 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 5: came to the league, a lot of the stuff he 119 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: was doing was unorthodox, right for a guy that was winning. Yeah, 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: And I think and I think that part of it 121 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: was cool to see the aesthetics of it. You mean 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 5: this the aesthetics the way he played. I mean, obviously 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: when he first started he couldn't read defense as well either. 124 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: He was out there winging that yeah, and it was 125 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: fall and it was beautiful to see. So you have 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: seen the evolution of his game from the first year 127 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 5: he started to where he is now. Right now, they 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: have caught up to him. Those top four that were 129 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 5: named on any given day, they can be the. 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: Best quarterback in the league. I don't disagree. 131 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: And that's the point, right, So when you make these 132 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: lists and you make a concrete number one, this is 133 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: the number one guy, there's always an asterisk behind it 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 5: because obviously that's attributed to team success. If he was 135 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: in Lamar Jackson's position at four, putting up the numbers 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: that Lamar is putting up, winning the MVPs and all 137 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 5: the things that. 138 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: He's been doing. 139 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: And not getting the wins, would he still be number one? 140 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 5: As and when you think of wins, that's a team thing. 141 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 5: It's not just him. Obviously, he's the head of the snake. 142 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: And you can make that argument what you just said, 143 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: what you just eloquently said, and it can be true. 144 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 4: But on the flip side of that. 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: If Lamar's team has let him down, and I'm not 146 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: saying that's always been the case, Lamar hasn't always played 147 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: well in big playoff games either, But if the roles 148 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 5: was switch, would he be one and Patrick mahons before? 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: I think that's my argument, right, So when you make 150 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 5: these lists, especially coming off recent history, the last couple 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: of years, it's been clear that there's been quarterback played 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 5: better than Patrick mhaundry. So why can you concretely say 153 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: that he's number one? And that's always my tip, and 154 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: I don't think anything of any of these are concrete. 155 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 5: It's just why I think a big yet. 156 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: But I think that so when you start to poll 157 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: people and then the way they put the rankings in 158 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: power or this guy got more votes, he got more 159 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: first play votes. You know, they do all the metrics 160 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: in the numbers. I don't think it's concrete. I think 161 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: he got sixty percent of the number one votes this 162 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: time around, So it wasn't like a blowout where That's 163 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: why I say it wasn't concrete. And I do think 164 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: you know, if you read through some of their points, 165 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: that was just what you said, Hey, yo, Joe Burrow. 166 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: They said he has been the big lead. Some of 167 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: them said that his his footwork is timing is completion 168 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: percentage at seventy percent. They were saying, like, you know, 169 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: he's kind of the guy. Others would say, oh, look 170 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: look at what Josh Allen is just a whole different 171 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: beast to size and speed of athleticism. But I think 172 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: what the common and dominator is Carrie. I will go, yeah, 173 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: that's cool. Yeah, I hear you. Yep, yeah, Well they're 174 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: lining up this Sunday AFC title game. Who you got 175 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 3: and that's been proven and that's the thing that that's 176 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: why he's the guy. 177 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: Now. 178 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk later on some more of his 179 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: lifts and maybe even a little bit further on here. 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: You know, there's more to be dissect. 181 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: I think about Lamar Jackson because I've been saying something 182 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: about Lamar Jackson for an entire year that I've been 183 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: doing this odd couple. And I know you've been here 184 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: for days that I've said it, and I know you 185 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: echo the same sentiments about how great he's been. But 186 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: I do think there's something too why he's on his list. 187 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: Now. 188 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: This is the second year in a row that Lamar 189 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: Jackson has been four. So we'll get into that a 190 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: little because I can see why you feel like you 191 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: want to go off. It's the first segment. You're trying 192 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: to be nice. He already know alright, just you know, 193 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: because hey, hey Rob g Joe Burrow don't exist with Carrie. 194 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: I ain't hear it, No, he does, he does. I 195 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: love Joe, I said, you said to Petrimhomes. Anyway, let 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: me tell you about Lamar. If we flip flopped the 197 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: flop of the flips, Yeah, why wouldn't Patrick because Lamar? 198 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean you are here and you're the 199 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: embodiment of uh yeah, you are the You're the embodiment 200 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: of Rob Parker right now. I feel like he's here 201 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: right now. Do you feel that that's the only black 202 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: quarterback you like? 203 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: Is Lamar? I got some more because we gotta go 204 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: on that list some more, but we'll come back. We'll 205 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: get a little bit more and none of this. 206 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: But that's my big takeaway is that it's a credit 207 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: to Patrick Mahomes and the success he had. You just 208 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: talked about the style of play, the flair, the hair, 209 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: the winning and I remember the Super Bowl run they made. 210 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: Against the Niners. 211 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: He was down ten points in every single game and 212 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: all of us went, yeah, they probably gonna still win. 213 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: I don't know I feel that way about Lamar. I 214 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: don't know. 215 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: I feel that way about Josh Allen And I'm you know, 216 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: obviously it's a game by game meeting. 217 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: I have to see it. Are they down ten early 218 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: and they got a whole forty five minutes last? Okay? 219 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: Cool is it? 220 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying Patrick Mahomes was the only guy. 221 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: We're like, how much time left, thirteen seconds against the bill, 222 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: whatever it was. Oh, for sure, Yes he can still 223 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: win this. And he reminds me of Steph Curry. Steph Curry, 224 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: last point here we got to break. Steph Curry is 225 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: the only shot. This is when I get into arguments 226 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: with Rob No, I know you never made a game Okay, 227 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: he's not made one game winner that you like. Yeah, 228 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: but he's made every other shot I've ever seen. He's 229 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: the first person has n't going up to get a drink, 230 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: going up to get some chips and guac real quick 231 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: with four seconds left, three seconds left on the clock, 232 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: two seconds left on the clock, and he's got to 233 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: go to full length of the court. He's the only 234 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: person in the history of NBA posital hold on, he's 235 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: shooting from that free throw line all the way over there, 236 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: and you stop, carry rose, don't you hold on? There's 237 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: a chance they thing might go in. Steph Curry is 238 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: the only player. And Patrick Mahomes has a little bit 239 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: of that where you're like, hold on this. 240 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: He's done. 241 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: What is it? 242 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 243 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: Let me see him even in the Super Bowl, You're like, 244 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: all right, if they get a stump here, there might 245 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: be something to this. 246 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 247 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 248 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 249 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 250 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 6: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker, for 251 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the 252 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 6: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 253 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: in analytics or the I test, We've got all the 254 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 6: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so do yourself 255 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 6: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 256 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 6: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 257 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: Speaking of Lebron and those four teams, So, according to 258 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: Scoop who got the Scoop, there are four teams who 259 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: have reached out and have some interest in Lebron, one 260 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: in particular, I'm gonna leave last because it irks you. 261 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: So we have the Cavs because that's the I'm coming home. 262 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm coming it makes sense. So there you got the Warriors, 263 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: you have the Clippers, and then you have. 264 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm sorry the maths. I'm sorry. Why did you have 265 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: to say it again? Sorry? Some people might be excited. 266 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe you're not excited. I don't know. 267 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: But those are the kind of the teams that have 268 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: reached out and have some interest in getting Lebron. We know, 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: let's just kind of give a little back stories of 270 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: things that we've known. Yeah, Brian Winhurst supporting that in 271 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: Mona Shellburn that the team and Lebron aren't seeing ey eye, 272 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: that there's some distance between them. We know for a 273 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: fact that you just kind of see all the tour 274 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: he's been on, he's been played, he's been in Cleveland. Yeah, 275 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: he's been here. He hasn't text DeAndre eight and we 276 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: heard from DeAndre said him as of when he was 277 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: he's signed. Now, if anything's happened since then, we don't know. 278 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: But as of that time, the team hasn't put out 279 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: a we're so glad Lebron opted in. 280 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: We're woo woo woo, We're excited. 281 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: We haven't heard from that, which typically you get, right, Yeah, 282 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: even if it's just two sentences, happy he's opted in. 283 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: Looking forward to this season, we haven't gotten any of that. 284 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: So that's kind of as the precursor to where we 285 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: are and why there would be interested and why Lebron 286 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: feels a bit slided is what the reporting is that 287 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: you know from the Lakers. 288 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: You know what's funny, what's that this is the first 289 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: time I think in Lebron's career that he's been on 290 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: the outside looking in. It's an uncomfortable situation. A guy 291 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 5: that's always been in the know since his rookie year, right, 292 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: I think we can safely say he's had the backing 293 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 5: of every team and every GM and every owner he's 294 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: been a part of. This is a new regime. This 295 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: isn't even the regime that he's familiar with, right, this 296 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 5: is a new regime. So for them to even you know, 297 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 5: try to accommodate him right now or make him feel 298 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 5: better for you know, his ego feel better with a tweet, Sam, 299 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: We're happy he's back. Like, I don't think they're in 300 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 5: the business of Lebron, right, They're in the business of Luca, 301 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: and I think that's very evident. But it's it's funny 302 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: how all that stuff like life comes at you fool 303 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 5: like like full a steam ahead, really quickly totally been 304 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: in the control of everything and all the moves that's 305 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: happened around you to now being left out and now 306 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: your ego not being pleased the way that you want. 307 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: Now you want to shop around and have your boys 308 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: say you want to be moved or you're available, and 309 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 5: have these things and not come out and say them directly. 310 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 5: It's just it's it's Lebron's brand, and it's it's for me. 311 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 5: It's kind of ironic that he's in this situation. 312 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: Well, I want to go back to someone that you 313 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: just talk about the new regime, so we know they 314 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: have the the the group that ow was the Dodgers 315 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: now is the owner of the Lakers, and I think 316 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: there's been a mutual benefit. Sometimes in life, things worked 317 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: out for the both of us. Now there was left 318 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: more left to be desired. Talking about the Laker of 319 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: the marriage between the Lakers and Lebron, you wanted more, 320 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: Maybe you wanted another ring. Maybe you at least got 321 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: to the finals one or two morey, maybe we didn't 322 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: win it, but we got there. Maybe you want an 323 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: MVP on our watch, something you know you wanted a 324 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: little bit more. But if you look at the marriage, 325 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: I think both teams can both parties can go. You know, 326 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: at least, hey, it was pretty beneficial. ROGI, you're a 327 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: Laker fan. The Lakers the last five six years with 328 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: Kobe horrid. 329 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: He was bad. 330 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: He was broken. It wasn't as fun. He's broken down. 331 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: It was a lot going on. He was missing games. 332 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: The team wasn't good. They didn't have a lot of 333 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: great players. That's just a fact. I'm not being funny 334 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: that every year to begin a new pick number two, 335 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: deand rusts the number two Big again Linzo, number seven, 336 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Big Jalius random brandon ingram Like. It wasn't good. That's 337 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: why they got accumulated on his young talent because they 338 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: weren't good. So to be relevant because of Lebron at 339 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: least relevant, at least competent. You missed the playoffs twice, 340 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: only twice you won a ring. You made a Western 341 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Conference final. He has the all time leading scorer on 342 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: your watch. Watch this too. You had the perfect statesman, 343 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: and I mean this sincerely, to handle Kobe Bryant's death. 344 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: Right. He was the one out there was speaking. He 345 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: spoke eloquently. 346 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: It was one of the times it felt kind of 347 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: from the heart it didn't really feel rehearsed with Lebron. 348 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: It kind of just felt like real deal, raw motion. 349 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: And then now that's why when people's oll the bubble ring, 350 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, they won that the year for Kobe, 351 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: everybody kind of goes straight to bubble. I go, this 352 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: was the year Kobe pass and the ain't kind of viole. 353 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna win for him, for him, and they did that. Yeah, 354 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: that's amazing to me. And you were able to have that. 355 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: Not only did we the Lakers win it, we want 356 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: it and honoring our guy maybe arguably the greatest Laker 357 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: of all time. Some would say magic. It's very generational Kobe. 358 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: So Lebron, you got to be in LA you have 359 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: to be close to Hollywood. You got to do all 360 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: the business. One thing you want to do. You gotta 361 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: want a championship. 362 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: You got. 363 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: They got all the clutch guys you ever want. Who 364 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: you want, what clutch guys you want? Okay, great, you 365 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: want to play with your son, cool, We got that. 366 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: You want different coaches. Cool got that they traded the 367 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: young Corps, all those guys they accumulated. So to me, 368 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: it's a mutual benefit and it's just time to move on. 369 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: And I think that's okay. Right now, you start to 370 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: wonder what's the best fit. I look at this two ways, Carrie. 371 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: The Clippers are the best fit in that he gets 372 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: to stay directly in Los Angeles. 373 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: We know how much that means to him. 374 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: His kids are in school here, well, his daughter, you know, 375 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: you know, his son is obviously still playing with the Lakers. 376 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: So we're playing a hypothetic. If they swore to happen, 377 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: what matches? So I would say the Clippers. And here's why. 378 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: For the clip number one, if you're still keeping the core, 379 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: you might have to trade James hard and obviously for 380 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: some money. He's to kind of match and you have 381 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: to move another piece here. But if I have Kawhi, 382 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: I've got Zubach, we got Lebron, you got some other 383 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: pieces around there. He's still in LA he doesn't have 384 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: to travel. You got a guy that you can kind 385 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: of say, all right, Kawhi goes down some games, we 386 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: got him still here. He can play well. So that 387 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: kind of fits and makes sense in that regard. But 388 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: the one that's really interesting to me, don't you do it? 389 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it. It's the Warriors. Okay, there 390 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: you go. I'll tell you why why Lebron has been 391 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: on a campaign like he was like one of these 392 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: presidential you know candidates. Man, I just g Gotti Schucks. 393 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: I love to play with Steph Man. You know who 394 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: I love to play with Steph? Ask me who I 395 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: like to play with? 396 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: Kerry? Who would you like to play with? 397 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: Steph Kurry? I love to play with Steph Kurry. In 398 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: the Olympics, it was so correct to play with Steph. 399 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: Oh step step step I mean he is like dang, 400 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: Steph is like whoa. So he gets to play with Steph. 401 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: He gets to stay on the West Coast where he's 402 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: gonna play the Lakers four time. He played the Clippers 403 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: four times, you meaning staying on here. You get to 404 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: play the Kings four times, so you're here, yeah, the 405 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: Suns four times. Still really close to LA just a 406 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: quick forty five minute flight our flight max. 407 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: So you get to stay there. You get to compete 408 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: with the team. 409 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: And I think it will be the last dance, if 410 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 3: you will, for Steve Kerr and Stephan I don't mean 411 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: the last year, but this is their last little go. 412 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: The next couple of years, right. 413 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: And Lebron and you get to compete, you get to 414 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: play with him, we get to all seed. 415 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: It's great for the NBA. Be fun. 416 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: And my last point why I think you would love 417 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: to do that because if for some odd reason they 418 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: were to mess around and win. Steph, you got five, 419 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: I got five. You ain't got one up on me. 420 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: You ain't got one. 421 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: Up on me. That sounds like Lebron. We both have five. 422 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: It dang it. 423 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: People have me rank higher than you right now. But 424 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: if you mess around and got a fifth, then I didn't. 425 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Maybe now some people want to you know, oh man, 426 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: he got five ones with Lebron's watching all that. Yeah, 427 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 3: you gotta hold on, brother, you gotta sit with me. 428 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 3: Either we both losing. Oh, we both winning and we 429 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: got five? We right got free? We got five. No, 430 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: it's funny you said. 431 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 5: The Clippers though that that would be intriguing just from 432 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: the standpoint of having those two legends play together, and 433 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: obviously their styles of play would fit seamlessly. I mean, 434 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 5: they both do everything at a really high level. And 435 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 5: what what The perfect teammate for Lebron always has been 436 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 5: the guy that can shoot the ball, right, got that 437 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: can space it. Whenever you construct the team around him, 438 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: you're trying to get shooters around him. Right, So the 439 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 5: ultimate shooter, the best shooter of all time on this 440 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: team would obviously be so exciting the sas just a lot. 441 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: He would just find stuff. It would be crazy. Yeah, 442 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: it'd be crazy. 443 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: But again I think, obviously we look at these four teams, 444 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 5: and if you have to choose between these four teams, 445 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: I do like the Golden State one the most, just 446 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: for the intrigue of it. But for me, like I said, 447 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 5: Lebron needs stick this thing out and ride it down 448 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: with the Lakers, and the. 449 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: Best fit is actually with the MAVs. You just don't. 450 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: You tried to No, no, no, you just don't want 451 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: to hear. Okay, wait wait why did he say this's 452 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: a homecoming? Why do you say that Kyrie gets to 453 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: come back play Kyrie? 454 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: Hey? 455 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: You know Kyrie was on his Lebron little to remember. 456 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: You know, I just realized I was too young. I 457 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: didn't understand what I had. I didn't appreciate him. And 458 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: Lebron have been a spoon Coons since then, and they've 459 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: been cool, and we had Scoop again. Scoop by joined 460 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: us last hour. He was saying he got some inside 461 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: traction that they had had a phone conversation a year. 462 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: So we'go a couple of years ago and they were 463 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: just like. Kyrie was like, Yo, man, come be a 464 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: math It'd be dope to have you here. Man, Just 465 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: come be a Maverick. And Lebron said, yo, let me 466 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: you know, let me think about that point being there's 467 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: that the Hey and a D is a connection you 468 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: talk about, a live connection, you talk about already have chemistry. 469 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: He's one with Kyrie, He's one with a D. It 470 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: makes sense you're about to get the best person you've 471 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: seen in five years of Klay Thompson because he messing 472 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: with Meg. 473 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: That's right. 474 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: This you talk about comeback player of the Year. Lay 475 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: Thompson is about to be going crazy. He thinks about 476 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: to go crazy. Let me tell you if he goes crazy, 477 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: remember I said that I'm gonna write is about to 478 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: be an assassin? 479 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: I hope Thompson. 480 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: You know the game is game six. Play game six, Clay. 481 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, when your girl is in 482 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: the gym, you played different. When your girl is Meg. 483 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: This version makes her she is the most tone and 484 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: fitted working out and you know he's a baby. 485 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm an athlete too. Let me show you how we 486 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 4: do it. 487 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: And Lay Thompson is about to win a three point 488 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: contest and love the three point percentage some loving basketball, 489 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be some loving basketball. He's gonna be 490 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: coming out there and Kys, he's gonna have a gonna 491 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: say saves the room. Don't say he gonna come to 492 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: games with Houston Astro jerseys on because she's from Houston 493 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: to Houston. 494 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm all for that, Okay, I'm all for that. Yeah, 495 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: put it out there. Yeah, I mean, Clay, why are. 496 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: You ignoring the mass just because you don't want him? Yeah? 497 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 4: I just don't. Yeah, I do not want Lebron. 498 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: There. I just think that you have to you don't 499 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: want the king. Think about it again, we talked about this. 500 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 5: If this was a buyout situation, obviously, if Lebron's if 501 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 5: you don't have to give up anything to get him, 502 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 5: that's a no brainer. I'm not saying that that's that 503 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 5: would be some hayting that behavior, that would be a 504 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: clear cut version of hate. 505 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: Right, you said, you just be robbing hundred percent. If 506 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: that was the case. 507 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: But if it's a trade situation, you just got to 508 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: get rid of too many of the assets that you have, 509 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 5: and it just doesn't make sense from a longevity prospect 510 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: for the map. 511 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: That's all. 512 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: It really doesn't. Here's why I'm just teasing you with 513 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: the mask. Here's why it doesn't make sense to master me. 514 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: I mean, and I mean this sincerely. Yeah, if I'm 515 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: playing a video game, it's a blast. 516 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: Right. 517 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: In real life, Kyrie is injured. We don't know when 518 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: he's coming back. Some people say January February, some people 519 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: say March. Kyrie says, don't calm me in next year. 520 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: I don't know yet. Let me just heal. Let me see. 521 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 522 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: You know who's often injured, Anthony Davis. Come on, man, stop, 523 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: we keep it really, we keep it real. He's often injured. 524 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: The man was injured on his first game. I'm about 525 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: the approve him that it was worth it that much 526 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: better than me. 527 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: He was like, okay, all right, a man. 528 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: And I'm not making fun I'm saying this is his reality. 529 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: He's even older. Now, he's hurt. Now, he's got the 530 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: retinal issue. Bro, I'm not even being funny. And everybody's 531 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 3: like all the Mavericks. Rob GI's been here for me. 532 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: Keep asking people what do y'all mean the Mavericks in 533 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. I mean people, I respect their opinion. Yeah, 534 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Rashon Phillips is hardly ever wrong, and I'm like, wait, 535 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: what Kyrie's out and he's something, you know, when does 536 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: he go down? 537 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: And what point Cooper Flagg has to get his footing right? 538 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: That's fair? And then Klay Thompson, No, I feel differently 539 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: the news. This was me pre mag news. 540 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: I was saying Clay's washed, and now I mean washing 541 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: a good way, like washing with the blood. Like he's 542 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: a whole new person. Now he's been born again, he's baptized. 543 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: Now again he is I don't know who it is 544 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: he about to be. He got a new hair boy, 545 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: he feeling himself. But uh, And then you gotta bunch 546 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: of power forwards and centers who I like, Yes, I 547 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: like a lot, Yes, But you know, is de Angel L. 548 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: Russell the key? Has he ever really, really really been? 549 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: Has he showed up when you really needed? DeAngelo Russell? 550 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 3: He's one of the more talented players that has been 551 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: one of the more frustrating players his whole career. Yeah, 552 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: just talented lot. You're like, man, dude, why can't he 553 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: do this every night? And that's the thing. You know 554 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: this from being a pro. Anytime I've ever heard professionals 555 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: talk or coaches talk, and even in this business, any 556 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: any business where you have to be professional, anybody can 557 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: have a day. Yes, every single person in the NBA 558 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 3: can drop thirty to forty easy, just to night that 559 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: was on the shots are coming my way, team was 560 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: feeding me, or I just had a great matchup. Can 561 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: you drop twenty five every single night? Twenty eight every night? 562 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: That's why Kobe was Kobe, Jordan was Jordan Lebron was 563 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: a Bron, Katie's Katie's staf. Can you drop every single night? 564 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: Put me out for twenty eight and eight? I will 565 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: tell how me. Guys can't do that in a winning 566 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: situation too. In a winning situation, I'll tell you this, 567 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 3: so Kel it depends on what is needed of you. 568 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: When the Angelo Russell was with the Nets and he 569 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: was the guy he could have, he could do that. 570 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: And so again I to say he can't or can 571 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: any of those guys, it's unfair to say that without 572 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: the real backstory. 573 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 5: No, it is No, No, because you just asked they 574 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 5: made the playoffs that you're too. So this isn't a 575 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 5: team that wasn't in the in the. 576 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: Do you remember that record? I think they were where 577 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: they subbed five hundred and got in the player. Gotta 578 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: looked that up. I'm not sure they made you know, 579 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: some teams I know, but listen, that'll be thirty eight 580 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: and something. 581 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 5: Then they make the playoffs, right, But kel, But I'm 582 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: saying that's the point. Right, If you're asking of that 583 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 5: from him, ask ask of it, and if he can't 584 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: do it, then So this is what I look like, Rodgers. 585 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 4: But he's done it. Talking about the pistons and the lines. 586 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: This is what This is what I look like. 587 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: I know you said he can't do it. He has 588 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: done I'm sorry, Roger. I might even text Rob hey, 589 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: I know you in Magic City, but my band I 590 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: get it. No, Nope, this is what Rose color glasses. 591 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 592 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: You over here, year ten for eleven, whatever it is 593 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: at the end of the US you like, now, it's 594 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: the year. 595 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: I'm telling you. I'm not saying he is. That's not 596 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: my point. Nope, But you said he can't do it. 597 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 5: He can do it. 598 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 599 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 600 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 601 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: listen live. 602 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: So at our one, we talked about the new list 603 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: that has been listed when it comes to the quarterbacks, 604 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: and they do this every year ESPN. They put it 605 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: out and you have the top one hundred players specifically 606 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: at positions, and its quarterback position. 607 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: Is this I'm gonna reread it. Yep. 608 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: You have number one, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen at you, 609 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jane Daniels at five, Matthew Stafford 610 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: at six, jo John Justin Herbert at what My seven, 611 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: Jared Goff eight, Rounding Golf nine, and ten Jalen Hurts 612 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: in Baker Mayfield. So I'm gonna start with the midway 613 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: point number five because I think we'd agree with the four. 614 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: You can rank change the rankings, but we agree with 615 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: the four and Mahomes, Borough, Jackson and Allen. 616 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: The interesting one it's Jayden Daniels. Now. 617 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: The reason why it's interesting is because he is coming 618 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: off of a spectacular rookie campaign. But I'm gonna be 619 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: emphasis on heavy on rookie campaign. Yes, and as you know, 620 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: you play defense in the league. Defenses go all right, 621 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: I had about enough. We figure some things out. Yes, 622 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: there are numbers out where seventy percent of his passes 623 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: go to the right side of the field, similar to 624 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: another quarterback who was ranked lower than him. He does 625 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: not like to pass down the middle. And these are 626 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: things defenses start to really get. All right, all right, 627 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: we're starting to get more date on you. First six, seven, 628 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: eight game. All right, good little rookie. Al right, look good, 629 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: you know boom. Now it's like, all right, he's actually legit. 630 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: We gotta start figuring this, figuring him out. So I 631 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: thought it was interesting that he was so high so 632 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: early in this ranking. Yep, you're looking at a season 633 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: of thirty five hundred yards, which specifically through the air, 634 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: and twenty five touchdowns, nine interceptions, which is good, which 635 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: is which are there? Those are those are good? Those 636 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: are good stats. If you look at the rushing he 637 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: ended up having. Trying to get the total here, I 638 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: think it was a five hund let me pull that 639 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: up right there. But he absolutely is spectacular and we 640 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: all expect big things from him. However, there are some 641 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: folks that he's that he's above that I find interesting, 642 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: and Jalen Hurts being the main one, and I think 643 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: he's I think he's a better talent than Jalen Hurts. 644 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: But I specifically bring those two up before a reason 645 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: we can't go back to the first hour discussing what 646 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: matters most wins for quarterbacks. Well, Jalen Hurts has done that. Yeah, 647 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: he's gotten a super Bowl. You could argue out played 648 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in that Super Bowl. He did right, Yeah, 649 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: play well next season play you know, they unachieve and 650 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: it says they won a bunch of games early, they 651 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: lost a bunch but still won a lot. It wasn't 652 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: like they were like two and fifteen. Then eventually he 653 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 3: wins a super Bowl. So on one end, I can 654 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: see why if you're Jalen Hurts, or if you're his agent, 655 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 3: or if you're just a fan of his, if you're 656 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: an Eagle fan, you could say, well, why is Jalen 657 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: Hurts solo? If you're ultimately telling me about winning. The 658 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: guy's been to two Super Bowls already in his career. 659 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: He's one one he played great a than another, And 660 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: you got a rookie who you know did well, got 661 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: to the NFC Championship Game, but doesn't have the kind 662 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: of the the years under his belt as a Jalen Hurts. 663 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: So he's the one guy I think isolent wise, Jayde 664 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: and Daniels has been better. But I can see an 665 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: argument of, well, what more do you want from me? 666 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: The way my the way my team is built. Sakuan 667 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: freaking Barkley in the backfield, me and my squatting seven 668 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: hundred pound legs. I can run and I got some receivers. 669 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: I hit him when I need to, but I don't 670 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: have to pass other times. I'm just winning. I think 671 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 3: he's getting penalized for the style in which he plays 672 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: and the way in which their team operates. Really all 673 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: about upfront, whether it's offensive, defensive line, and he's getting 674 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: the lack. You know that all of that is taking 675 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: the credit away from him, and I get it again 676 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: natural talent wise, I see why Justin Herbert, I get 677 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: just pure arm ability Jaye Daniels, from the arms to 678 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: the ability to run. 679 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: He's so slithery, He's man. He can get through spots 680 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: and holes. 681 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: But the one person I can see who can have 682 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: a gripe if you're telling me it's based off winning. 683 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: What has Justin Herbert done that I ain't did? 684 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: Right? You know? Yeah? Yeah? 685 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: And Matthew Staffers throughout his career, you can you know 686 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: he's now he's a super Bowl champ and again another 687 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: arm talent. But I just think Jalen Hurts would be 688 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: the one that would have something to say, even though 689 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: I get just pure arm talent and just ability. 690 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 4: I do think Jayson Daniels is better. It's too early. 691 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 5: I'll just say it straight up for them to put 692 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 5: him at five right now, it's just premature. One great 693 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 5: year does not warrant you. 694 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: Being in a lot. 695 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: It's to you said one, it's two guys on this 696 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 5: list right now. There's no way that he's better than 697 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: right now, and that is Jalen Hurts and it's Matthew Stafford. 698 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 5: And some would argue Justin Herbert, but I'm not a 699 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: big Herbert guy yet either. I think he told me, yes, 700 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: he's got a certain point, we're gonna look up, it's 701 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: gonna be year twelve, and were like he's coming one 702 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 5: hundred percent. And that's so that guy would he wouldn't 703 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 5: be on the list. But Jalen Hurts very interesting because 704 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 5: even after the Super Bowl when he out played Patrick 705 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 5: Mahomes and at the Super Bowl when you know Kent 706 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: City came back and won great Super Bowl. I still 707 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 5: wasn't high on and I wasn't high on Jalen Hurst 708 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: last year, but the fact that he was able to 709 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 5: do what he did last year, there was some actual 710 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: turmoil throughout that year that he had to overcome. It 711 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: wasn't always peachy. He didn't play great all year long, 712 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 5: but when it mattered we talk about winning, he showed 713 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: up in the big game. He showed up. At this point, 714 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. You can win with 715 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 5: that guy, and you know how talented he is. He 716 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 5: has to be number five on this list right now, 717 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 5: and Matthew Stafford has to be up there as well. 718 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: I mean talk about talent, arm talent, the things that 719 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: he's done, the things that he's achieved in his career. 720 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 5: I would put him over Jayden Daniels as well. And 721 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: that's not a knock on Jaden Daniels. I think he's phenomenal, 722 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 5: But for him, it's only been one year and that 723 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: second year it's going to be different, ask CJ. Stroud 724 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: when things happen like you have to reinvent yourself, and 725 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: teams are going to now come out and say we 726 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: have to stop Jaden Daniels and they will construct the 727 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 5: formula that will make him half time to be like 728 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 5: I said, develop a number two pitch. And so it's 729 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 5: a little premature for that five rankin for me, Jalen 730 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 5: Hurts has won sixty four percent of his games. You 731 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: definitely would take that. And then since twenty twenty two 732 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: is that seventy percent? 733 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 734 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: You know again, the dude, if the name of the game, 735 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: because they gotta be fair, why did I put Patrick 736 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: mut We both agreed at the number one. You put 737 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: it because it's the winning because it was just better player. 738 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: Right now, that's been Lamar Jackson, Yes, right now, it's 739 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: been Josh Allen. Yes, Ben Joe Burrow. If you're saying 740 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: who's played better the last couple of seasons. But what 741 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: we both said, and I believe it. I don't want 742 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: to speak out of time for we did is that 743 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: Patrick mahonmes when it comes down to it, I need 744 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: to win, I need a third down. I need to 745 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: play to ice the game or to win it. He's 746 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: still the guy because he wins. And Jalen Hurts, who 747 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: I've been hard on Rob g will tell you I 748 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: am to I've been like, I want to see more 749 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: of you got stud receivers. 750 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: Why aren't y'all balling? Got issue as a receiver? You 751 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: and A J. Brown getting into it. And obviously that 752 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: happens from time to time. 753 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: So I don't wantact glad that's the end all be 754 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: off right, But my point is it was he did 755 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: leave some more to be desired, and I said there 756 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: were gonna be times where I was question if it 757 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: came down to this drive you gotta pass six or 758 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: seven times, can you get it done? And you know, 759 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: to his credit, he was able to do it. Now 760 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: they had a big lead and they didn't have to 761 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: do it. And some of it was, you know, him 762 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: being mobile and just kind of some play action stuff 763 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: with against Sakwon Barkley being in the backfield. But if 764 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: the if the at the end of the day, winning 765 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: is what matters, and that's the same thing. While we did, 766 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 3: you know, been knocking Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won 767 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: the big one, then Jalen Hurts would have something to 768 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: say it, and Kevin. The crazy part about that list 769 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: is even I said it, I just said his name. 770 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: But c J. 771 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 5: Stroualt to be on that list before him, in my opinion, 772 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 5: before Jayde Daniels. 773 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's been two years of this. C J. 774 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 5: Strould took the NFL by storm last year, obviously, took 775 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 5: the team to the playoffs, a team that was not 776 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 5: expected to do anything that first year. Second year comes 777 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 5: back and is not as pretty as the first year, 778 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 5: but he figures it out. You talk about no O 779 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: Line o' lion was trying, he was running. He was 780 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: running for his life. He was fighting, fighting for my life, man. 781 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 5: But found found the way to get to the playoffs 782 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 5: and found a way to still be productive and then 783 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: playoffs played his butt off. Yeah, you have two years 784 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 5: to see what he's done. I mean, you only got 785 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 5: one year of Jaydon Daniels to be number five. It's 786 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: just a little bit, it's just a little early. 787 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: Now. 788 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: The only thing we'll say is maybe he's just maybe 789 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: they're these these by the way, for those who don't know, 790 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: this is seventy group of GMS anonymous GMS scouts coaches 791 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 3: as well, and so maybe he's just they see, he's 792 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: just that gifted. I can already project sure pure talent wise, 793 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: Like they're like, no, dude's pure talent wise and so talented. Yeah, 794 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 3: these dudes are coming in old as heck, by the way, 795 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 3: in a good way. They ain't coming in right. I 796 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: all always told Rob because sometimes we'll get into the band. 797 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, the dude the reason because he won't 798 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: acknowledge that these young guys are coming in ballin am 799 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: I dude, the reason they're coming in is because a 800 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: forty starts under the belt. 801 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: Think about it. 802 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: Usually you went to college, you didn't do it any 803 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 3: in your first year or two, then you finally got 804 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: a couple of games your junior year, maybe maybe half 805 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: the season. Then your senior was year or maybe junior 806 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: and senior j Yeah, these dudes are getting forty in 807 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: COVID years and graduate years. These dudes are coming in 808 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: grown men full beard twenty four, twenty three. You know 809 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 3: what I mean, forty stars. Let's go Michael Pennis junior him, Yes, 810 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. These dudes are coming in with a bunch 811 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 3: of starts, and they're ready to go. Yeah, bow knicks 812 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: and there's no dues. They're just like ready, and that's 813 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: why I think they're not playing. They're not coming in 814 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: struggling as much because they're getting so many transferporters. R. 815 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to different. 816 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: Schools I'm playing, so Kayler Williams played a bunch of 817 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: big football as well. 818 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: So these guys are coming in ready, ready for it.