1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Take me to your leaders. Unless they're jackasses. They seem 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: like jackasses. It's one more thing. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty, one more thing before we get 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: to your thing. I know we're about to talk about 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: the UFO hearing as they had the other day. I 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: as a guy who listens to lots of podcasts and 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: reads tons of stuff, I've noticed the change in the 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: last couple of years. There are way more of your 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: super smart people saying I think there's a decent chance 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: we are the only life in the universe, as opposed 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: to like my whole life where it was now, that'd 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: be crazy to think that. Now they're the super educated 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: people who spend their lives on this, there's like a 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: backlash to that, Like, no, there's very good reason to 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: believe we are the only life that exists in the universe. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: I've got to admit, having been convinced of the other 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: point of view from my whole life, I find that 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: counter into it been difficult to buy, but I haven't 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: dug into it. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look, you know, just like search it on 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: YouTube you'll find MIT professors talking going through the reasons 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: why they think that's quite possibly because it's just very 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: very difficult and takes a whole bunch of extraordinary things 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: to occur. Yeah, temperature water. Nobody's exactly sure how life 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: started anyway, but maybe there's just none anywhere, Katie. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Your gut reaction, Oh, I for sure think there's like 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: aliens or something. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure something well, and the other I'll let you 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: argue with the MIT professor with that they're hiding something. 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: I totally think for sure there's life somewhere. I tend 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: to be on your side. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, and the other thing that I, you know, 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: tended to forget about until I took a college class 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: on This was an unbelievably easy class. I mean, home man, 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: talk about an easy a. You hardly had to fogg 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: a mirror anyway. But it was super interesting and fun. 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: But you know, in the history of the globe, which is, 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: you know, couple of billions a year whatever it is, 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: human beings have existed for like well, just life in 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: general has existed for like a blink of that time. 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: And so not only would. 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: You have to have you know, life here and then 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: there's some here and then way over there, but it 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: would have to exist at the same time across billions 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: of years, right, that's Elon, But I'm aware of each other, 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: that's Elon. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Musk's point is that unless you are inter multiplanetary species, 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: which is why he wants to get us to Mars, 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: there's almost no chance of your surviving because there's a 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, there's a time limit on all planets for 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: where it's going to be too hot or too cold 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: for the life to continue. So again, there could have 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: been life, maybe maybe a very long you know, one 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: hundred million years ago or one hundred million years from now, 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: but the idea that there's intelligent life somewhere right now 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: that could reach us is very very low. 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating topic, no doubt. But getting back to my 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: charming introduction. Take me to your leaders big hearing the 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: other day in the United States Congress. 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I like that version of interplanetary. Yeah, there's plenty of life. 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: It's close by. They can immediately come here. They speak English, 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: which is very handy. Well, they have translators. It's good 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: they had Google Translate before Google. Did I appreciate you 65 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: learning the English language before you land? Come down and 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: they have three fingers. Yeah, they're basically us, just slightly different. 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, always bald headed, always kind of translucent with smooth 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: weird heads. Anyway, you know what, the old Star Trek 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: was so great for aliens. I mean because they really 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: tried hard with the technology of the time to be imaginative. 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't all you know, bald headed, et looking creatures. 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: It was everything from like sparkles of energy to very 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: humanoid to like hot green chicks. 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, really ran the gamut. 75 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Of what with Mars attacks. 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, great old movie. Yeah. 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, So there's a hearing the other day Congressional panel 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: what the House Oversight Committee. 79 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Evidently they oversee space aliens. 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: But it's funny because this account in the Wall Street Journal, 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: which you'd think would be among the more sober accounts 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: of this, just kind of glosses over all. Right, are 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: we talking about freaking space aliens? Are we just talking 84 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: about objects observed by military pilots that have not yet 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: been identified? 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Do I think I think China has planes or drones 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: that we don't know about and are hard to detect 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: a freaking course, right? 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: And or do we think that DARPA is developing weapons 90 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: and reconnaissance aircraft and sometimes they try them out on 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: our very guys to see if they can be detected 92 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: and in what way and how quickly and that sort 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: of thing. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think that. So the hearing. 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: Wednesday by two House Oversight Subcommittee's latest in Congress is 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 3: push for transparent around UFOs, which seems like a terrible 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: idea to me, for reasons I'll get into. Witnesses have 98 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: alleged that they've seen aerial phenomena exhibiting qualities that defy explanation, 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: that the US government has taken steps to shield what 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: it knows. And you've got Nancy Mayce, who's the hottie 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: from South Carolina who about half the time strikes me 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: as a really good congress person, then the other half 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: of the time she strikes me as a nut. But 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: she said she's the chairwoman of one of the subcommittees, 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: said in her opening remarks that some people didn't want 106 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: Wednesdays hearing to happen because they feared what might be disclosed. 107 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: But we stood firm no amount of outside pressure would 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: ever keep me from pursuing a subject. What if it's 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: like highly classified weapons systems to keep us from being 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: overrun by the Chinese commie horde, sweetheart, then would you 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: disclose it to the public. Not good. Congress in twenty 112 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: twenty two held its first hearing on US what it 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: now calls unidentified anomaloust phenomenon or UAPs. 114 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Again, why did they have to change? 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: Or if there's like flying pigs, that would be well, no, 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: I suppose that would be an identified anomalous phenomena. 117 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: Hey, I know what that is. That's a flying pig. 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: Oh when the hole wind pigs fly thing is now, I'll. 119 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: Be damned, but identified? Yes, everybody keep cool. Since then, 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: lawmakers in the public have heard from military and intelligence 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: officers who've testified they've seen UAP and they could pose. 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Risks to national security. 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: And the Pentagon did not respond to a request for 124 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: comment on Wednesday. 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know? 126 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just done. 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: We're dealing with this as fast as we can can. 128 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: We just keep kind of quiet about it all because 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: we're developing counters to these Chinese spy tiny spy drones, 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: and we don't want to talk about it. 131 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Nancy. 132 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: The other thing that has changed in my lifetime that 133 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: makes sense, not only is there, you know, this newfound 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: belief that maybe there is no other life in the universes. 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Why are we sending out signals to try to reach them? 136 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: That stupid Stephen Hawking was the first person I heard 137 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: say that, and then others have written books about it. 138 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: That's the last thing you do if you're some tiny 139 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: little beast in the weeds in Africa is like raise 140 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: up your arms, say hey, any giant predators out there 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: that are much bigger, stronger than meat that would like 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: to kill me? 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: Huh? 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Anybody I'm over here? Why would you do that? Why 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: would you send out the you know, the the voyager 146 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: that's still headed out into space and elons that went 147 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: out a while back, with all kinds of trying to 148 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: alert people that, hey, isuel a week plant over here? 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: If you want to come kill us. 150 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: We're made of meat, and we've got lots of natural resources. 151 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: We're made of meat meat. 152 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of one of Henry Kissinger's descriptions of America 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: and Americans. We're a big, friendly dog, and sometimes our 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: tail knocks stuff and breaks it. But and you can, 155 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: you know, cite this in looking at the way we 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: deal with the Muslim world, in dealing with China for 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: several decades, and there are several others examples of this. 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: But we're we're nice people, Americans in large measure, we 159 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: just want to be friends and do business. 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: And so we have this idiotic. 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Assumption that everybody else just wants to be friends and 162 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: do business, including space aliens. 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Right there on Flutron five, Hey do you want to. 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: Be our friend? Do you want to be our friends? 165 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: Sap? 166 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Well, no, we'd like to eat your resources. 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: That their ray gun. They just zap you with their 168 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: ray gun. 169 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: This is what happens, No words necessary. 170 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: What happened in the horror movie Signs. They started communicating 171 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: with the aliens through a baby monitor and everybody died. Yeah, 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: the idea that that would automatically somehow benefit humanity if 173 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: we did contact a almost certainly superior life format. How 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: why would you assume that that's really weird that we 175 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: ever thought that, let alone it being the consensus of view. 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: It's a very American thing to do, it is. 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: The Pentagon has previously said there is no evidence that 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: UFO sightings are alien spacecraft. 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: Thank god, I don't. 180 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Not since having achieved arguably manhood, have I spent much 181 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: time at all thinking about space alien craft. No, absol 182 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: not it's it's it's advanced military technologies from ours and 183 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: other governments. Obviously, now some okay, all right, hey, you 184 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: know me, mister, I want to hear the opposing point 185 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: of view. 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: You think it may be. 187 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: A cigar shaped silvery spaceship. 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: Is that what you could be? 189 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. The saucer coming down with the beam, 190 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: got the beam picked you up, probed you, maybe ainly, 191 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: and I haven't thought. 192 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: So always part of it, Yeah, so much probing, always 193 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: part of it. 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 195 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: Now, some of the like miraculous stops and starts and 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: changes the direction and speed that they've observed in these 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: craft is I've got to admit it. It looks to 198 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: be beyond terrestrial technology. But the fact that I can't 199 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: come up with the explanation, partly because I'm not a 200 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: physicist nor a DARPA scientist or whatever, does not mean well, 201 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: you gotta go to space aliens the next step. 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Right. 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: That's well, if if the professional you know, commentator can't 204 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: nail down what it is, it must be space aliens. No, 205 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: maybe it's some ability to distort and deceive radar systems 206 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: and you know whatever other technologies the jet fighters use 207 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. 208 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: But God, we should have dug up the best of 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Kate McKinnon from Saturday Night Live when she gets, you know, 210 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: probed by the aliens, and she'd always puts funny joke. Oh, 211 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: they had me strapped up and they looked me over 212 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: from my cooder to my tutor before they let me 213 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: back down. 214 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Sure, one hundred and five euphemisms for the female parts, 215 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: just absolutely hilarious. Hey remember when the guy told everybody 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: to storm Area fifty one online and they took him 217 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 3: serious and it was just a party outside everyone every fifty. 218 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: One on Gates. Yeah, that was a good time. 219 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's it.