WEBVTT - The Next Episode 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.320 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.160 Reck Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.560 material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.920 gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:23.280 to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.080 My name is Alex Alonso from Street TV Street Gangs 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.280 dot Com, where I interview all the o g s, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.240 former and current gang members and other related people. And 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.960 I'm here with my two co hosts Jr. James McDonald 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.519 and Reggie Rick Junior also has another platform, Bomb First 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.240 b O n B one st and you can catch 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.720 them on there every week. But his shows are live 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.880 and you can interact, call in comment while the show 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.840 is going on. And also, James, your shirts are finally done, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.600 that completed, and and what's the easiest way to contact 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.960 or or get the shirts to be honest, The patreon 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.720 on bomb for Versus the easier easiest way, but you 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.600 can check the link as well on the Patreon for 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.480 Against the Chronicles. It's active, but go to bond first 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.839 and go to the patreon and and pick up the shirt. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.200 Man I'm telling you it's a it's a good quality 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.880 T shirt and you'll be helping a couple of families 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.840 out and um, let's make it happen to support And 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.080 we actually talked about that shirt in detail. I believe 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.399 that was episode four or five. And I'll also put 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.360 a link in my Instagram to the bomb First Patreon. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.720 I will make sure that's active and current. So this 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.360 is episode number sixteen. And if you're new to the podcast, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.120 please go back and start with episode one. Because all 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.880 our episodes are interrelated. You won't start hearing me till 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.320 episode three. And if you're listening to this episode of 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.080 The Gangster Chronicles on iTunes, please leave us a rating 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.560 and a review so that we can continue bringing you 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.760 this amazing content. Give us a rating from one to 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.520 five five if you love the show and you want 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.840 us to continue doing it. And for those who do 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.760 not have iTunes were also available on Google Play, Spotify, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.080 and radio dot Com. All right, um, usually I do 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.240 a fact check from the previous episode. Last week we 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.359 had Lad from lad TV on the show, so we 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.959 don't really have too much of a fact check. I 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.080 didn't really go over the things that were stated in 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.240 the interview. But let's, uh, let's briefly talk about that 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.760 show from last week. Guys, what do you want to 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.680 talk about? How? I mean, how bad you treated our guests? 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.760 Come on, now, I thought I treated his lad Um. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.320 I mean I think I could have went in harder. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.480 You could have you did not think? I mean, yeah, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.480 he did it with a smile. I mean with the 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.960 questions that black acts. He also said it itself and 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.239 that he there's only two things. Don't ask me. You 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:51.160 asked me anything else? And and we we stuck by that. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.760 But I knew when you was ready to go in. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.400 I knew it, and and you went in. You asked 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.280 some tough questions. You asked some questions. And I've been 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.679 thinking about the subject that you that offended you so much. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.920 And I know what it is is the the payment 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:14.200 are the payment for an interview, and a lot of 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.880 people taking payments now big you know ABC paying people 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.720 to uh tough, big interviews on their show. Um, you 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.200 know R Kelly, you know. I don't know if he 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.959 got paid by Gail, But situations like that show the 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.840 platforms like that are paying people the uh what you're 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.520 not supposed to I don't care if ABC is doing 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.600 it or YouTube channels doing it. But you haven't heard 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.800 of people getting paid for interview have I've heard? I 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.440 heard the rumor that Dr Phil paid two racks to 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.720 Octo Mom to do an interview. Remember Octo Mom a 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.119 couple of years ago. Actually those kids are doing quite well. Yeah. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.200 But but if you asked off to Phil if he 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.600 paid Octo Mom the money, He's gonna say absolutely not, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.320 because he understands that that violates one of the rules 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.920 of journalism. You are not supposed to pay your interview subjects. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.200 Some people would, They would negotiations on some of the 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.960 big platforms for getting paid. Maybe the game is changing, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.960 but you know a lot of people still stick to 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.360 those journalistic principles. And here here's the problem with paying somebody. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.120 Once you pay one person and that gets out, then 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.960 you gotta start paying every single guest on the show, 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.400 and you don't want that cat to get out the bag. Secondly, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.360 when we have people come to the mic do interviews 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.599 and start telling ridiculous stories already without even being paid. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.400 Once you put money in someone's pocket, now your story 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.400 is tainted. Your story is now partially influenced by the money. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.679 That I gave you as opposed to you just came 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.720 to do a sincere interview. People just gonna start line, 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.120 I got a story and just to get paid, exactly. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.679 And we already have that problem with people lying without 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.800 getting so I think if he needs a perfect example, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.240 you know, do you trust everything this guy is saying 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.600 in the interview? Do you think that he's being influenced 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.280 by whatever? You know? I think, uh, I think people 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.200 like to glorify themselves and make themselves seem bigger than 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.360 what they were. Well, I'm a defended dude. I don't 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:26.800 think he lying about everything, eating certain situations, certain incidents, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.600 But I mean, you just can't lie about everything. He 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.920 has the truth to what he's saying. But the important 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.400 ship you can tell that he's not being one hunter 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.479 with it and he holding back. So do you pay 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.440 somebody like that knowing that they're gonna hold back because 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.679 they can't speak on certain ship. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.440 I think that's your fault. Well, I don't think any 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.880 of the person that pays you to do an interview 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.279 knowing that he's gonna hold back because he can't save 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.320 you too much. He ain't got to the he didn't. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.000 He had part nine right now, part nine of this episode, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.760 and he haven't even got to the questions that he 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.560 wanted to get to yet. So he's warming him up. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.440 He's making him feel comfortable right now, he's starting to smile. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.520 When he first came, he was an angry black man. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.920 Now you know you have time to break up easy, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.560 he smiles. Man, I've seen what's wrong with his jaw. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:28.920 And they ain't got no tea. And here's the third 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.279 problem with paying. When you have big platforms that could 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.400 afford to pay and don't mind paying once in a while, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.479 then it prevents the smaller platforms that are just as relevant, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.640 that are just as important from getting those same interviews. Also, well, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.480 that don't mean just step you gotta step your game 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.200 up because I'm never gonna pay anyone. If you ever 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.840 see KPD on my platform, I did not pay him 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.359 a dime. If you see it, yeah that's why. If yeah, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.520 you know I was. I've been talking to him and 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.400 you know, I'm trying to ye he's close. I'm letting 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.000 them know. Look, I'm a small guy, a small platform. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.120 I don't have it like that, he said. He told 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.920 me this morning I was about the funk with you. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.480 You're not not on find uh find some interviews where 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:19.760 you out there bootlegging my book. I didn't do it. Yeah, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.240 that's my that's my statement. And I did, of course, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:29.400 that's right. I didn't, that's right. So um yeah, that 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.400 was one of my issues. Another issue I have with 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.560 Ladd is I think a lot of his interviews and 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.040 questions are really based off of racial stereotypes. Not every 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.880 gang member is a shooter, not every gang member is 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.440 a drug dealer. Um, he asked kep D. So how 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.160 old were you when you started going on missions? Um? Uh? 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.080 Talk about the work you put in for the hood. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.760 Well that's the way he word ship instead of how 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.320 old were you when you initiated when you actually started 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.560 hanging with gangs that have it? And that ship is 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.120 like what's from a Polish point of view, you would 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.360 be like, how long you've been gaming? Banging? Should as you? 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:15.760 I mean, my all I was just saying is that 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.080 he that's what he brings his platform on. He wanted 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.200 to hear about it, and that's what his kids like. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.320 And and y'all gotta remember, y'all think you're talking to 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.440 people that we socialize with no. But let me ask 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.000 you all this what you're talking to an audience of sixteen, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.199 probably twenty seven year old old They got more older 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:42.120 people really listening. And comes from a background of white folks. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.160 Like I said in his interview when we when when 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.520 we interviewed him, it's not up to him to answer 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.080 the questions. He can ask it and you can actually 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.400 tell him to rebird reword what he's saying. It's it's 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.560 your fault to answer that. He asked questions and a 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.679 lot of I mean, I think we all got out 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.360 right to say what we want to shay, how we 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.400 share it. It's it's not I don't think it's just 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.000 from man. I think it's three point three million people 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.880 on there probably a hundred thousands of other people that 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:18.160 listens to him. Stuff. Are that's that's subscribed to his 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.480 channel is from the l A county or an urban area. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.160 Most of those people are from other countries. But most 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:31.360 of those people from areas that what our culture and 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.880 what we're doing. That has nothing to do with it. Okay, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.880 His question was was was the way black asked questions? 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.679 And I'm just telling you who why he asked the 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.040 question that way. I'm answering why he asked the question 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.520 that way, and because he's preaching to his squad. But 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.760 he also admitted that he knows he's a polarizing figure. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.720 He said that in the previous interview. He says, I 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.360 know him polarizing, and he's embraced that, and he has 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.040 no problems. That's what I mean. It's more, you want 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.559 to go to a strip club of the girl was 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:05.160 straight or got a whole set of panties on. I 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.920 want to see the whole set of panties, right, Okay, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.480 I like him if he noticed he brought his he 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.679 came with a security guard, and I didn't like that. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.920 And he knows he's a polarizing figures because some of 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.760 the things he asked. His style rub people away, that 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.400 it makes him nervous going on in public without a security. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.160 I mean, he knew he was coming here, and and 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.760 I think I got a good report with him, Miss 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.080 Wellers read and I didn't understand why he came with 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.400 what's going to be here? Yeah he doesn't know. You 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:40.640 don't know. He ran in up to a lot of people. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.880 Now you gotta understand, you gotta understand what this man 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.200 have been through and and and because you don't know, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.400 because you don't study it like that. But this man 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.880 have been assaulted. You know, I've been beat up at 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.640 a studio. You know, all of this thing happened. I 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.719 don't mind that he brought his security guard, but he 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.679 just lets you know he understands that he's not completely 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.439 like you know, I don't feel like I will need 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.560 a security guard to go places based on I've never 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.560 had a security guard go to him. When I went 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.560 to him, you didn't need it. You had a security 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:18.920 guard with you, you had. I took my guard. Fourteen friends. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.800 Well it's only it's only ten friends. Oh well, we 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:29.480 got illegal clips. If you got your legal, it's ten friends. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.280 We got illegal clip. Well, no, they're not illegal. If 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.600 their grandfather then from back in the day, whatever, But 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.720 we're gonna go to jail. It's a felony. If either 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.600 one of them got a gun anyway, that don't matter. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.480 Not you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm a fellon now. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.080 Didn't carry and I took my ship. Yeah he can't 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:53.400 never legal like me, but rather be well judged by 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.320 twelve No anyway, but I got mixed. I do not 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.160 carry any guns anymore. I am because you're not. You're 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.199 not breaking the law exactly. Um, I was gonna say. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.880 I got mixed reactions from the lad interview. I had 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.800 people tell me I'm glad you kept him accountable. Great interview. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.800 But then I had people say, you you sound salty, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:17.040 you know, So I got both extremes. The bottom line 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.720 was he wasn't mad at you. He he had found 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.319 respect for you and your interview tactics, and he he 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.760 coming to me that. So I have no problem with 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.559 anything that Alex uh asked me any questions that he 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.560 asked me or hardy came at me. I sent him 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:38.839 a text, uh kind of um apologizing to him on 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.520 the behalf against the Chronicles, and he was like dumbfound it, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.280 Like what was the problem. I'm surprised that I learned 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.760 that this morning. I'm surprised that, uh, you wished an 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.520 apology because of the number one I sent the tax 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.240 Well I didn't issie the apology. Uh. The executive producer 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.240 of Grains the Chronicles is the one, did it? Okay? Well, Hey, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.000 I stand by the way I interviewed him. If I 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.880 was if I ever could interview him again, it'll be 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.600 harder than that. I think you know that, and I 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.959 think that's the hardest interview Vlad has ever had of 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:22.160 him period, because he's done only so few, you know. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.040 And I only think, like I said, he didn't he 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.240 he didn't find it, he didn't have a problem with it. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.920 So that's all that counts. Yeah, that's all that counts, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.200 all right, Any any any other thoughts on the Lad 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.320 interview before we move on, Lad, appreciate you. I noticed 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:42.400 today is uh uh the seventeen, and you promised to 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.520 have some stuff pinned on the um or mob James 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:52.040 uh uh on his um what is it called, on 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.720 his shows or his uh his interviews? Well tagging uh 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.400 the gates the chronicle uh um to put some links 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.679 links on it under your interview and under James interview. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.240 And they haven't been done yet. Okay. Well, if I 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:07.600 didn't know that, I would have I would have told 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.079 him that this morning. This morning, Well, I watched Lad, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.560 and I think a lot of interviews are entertaining. I'm 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.240 not a hater of Lad. I think the Lad has 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:24.560 an incredible platform, and I just have some issues with 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.120 a few things that he does. And I'm not gonna 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.080 shy away from that, and you shouldn't, because I mean, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.560 everybody has their own opinion. You know. I text everybody 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.960 the other day basically saying that we all got our 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.640 own opinion. I say what I feeled, and we got 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.520 to respect each other's opinion. Regardless that we walk out 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.760 of here. We can speak on it or whatever. But 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:51.000 while we doing this show, you know, some people might 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.640 not like what you say. Yeah, I was. Was was 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.320 laughing like and and I was ready when you stood 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.680 up in and you was on your toes and you 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:04.680 was you when you started writing your stuff down, I 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.920 saw black just look down and just like, oh he 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.880 writing this ship down. He I mean it was a 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.760 good interview. Well, I started with a blank page. I 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.840 didn't have any notes prepared for him. I watched any research, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.520 But yeah, I had a bunch of ready. You were 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.520 ready for him. You came ready, like I'm gonna get this. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.280 Dude tripped up to say he paid for interviews. You 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.280 had texas from other people that you didn't even bring up. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.720 I didn't bring that up because I felt those texts 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.640 were private. Yeah, you know, and I didn't You were ready. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.080 I was, I was ready, but I didn't have like 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.360 look the way I prepare sheet, I didn't have nothing 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.960 like the black questions. Ready you did, good man? Well, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.360 I appreciate that you made it through it. Um, you 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:52.040 voiced your opinion. Every question you asked was was could 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.920 have came off anyway to other people because they boshed 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.200 their opinion on different ship. You asked a tough question too, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.280 do you hate sugar or you do you have this 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.960 animosity against you? You know because every interview at hearing 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.920 he said he don't want to be around him, he 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.640 can't get near him, you know, and this and that 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.520 and let me know, jeal us, do you do you 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.440 hate shigg And he explained it so and I was 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.000 good with his answer. You know what I'm saying. I'm 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.200 surprised he said he wouldn't want to do an interview 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.280 with him, like over the phone interview if he had 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.920 the opportunity, because he seems to love this topic. Why 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.240 not interview the guy at the top. She would come 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.600 off to people, and some people are afraid of ship 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.720 over the phone. You're talking about doing it over the problem. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.080 I mean, that's the only way unless you wait twenty years. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.560 He's just going, Yeah, that's true. I don't know what 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.680 you can get in there. He just don't want to 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.320 deal with ship just so they don't like their he 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.240 you don't, you know, I got some point Sugar's gonna 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.520 open up and start talking more. I think, did you 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.680 say that on bomb first the other day? I wouldn't 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.440 try to go speak to him for another three or 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.000 four years until he gets settled, because he's still on 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.280 the bullshit. But I really be in about three or 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.240 four years some maturity, he's gonna get it. He's gonna 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.160 be a little older and he's just gonna be ready 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.720 to tell the truth. So you don't wait till he's sixty. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.320 That's about when the nigga probably grow up in my mind. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:25.880 All right, Thanks Glad, appreciate you for coming through. Um. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.040 I finally got a chance to read that Eric Well, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.160 I don't know what's called not the Eric the Eric 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.879 Holder grand Jury transcript, I guess, And I got a 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.879 better sense of the events, the steps of what happened 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.840 with the girl who they're calling witness one. She's not 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.680 even identified in this transcript at all. She's Witnessed one. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.000 And after I read it, I really didn't have any 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.959 problems with what she did and how she conducted himself 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.240 and and um, all her actions. She actually turned herself 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.760 in after the second day, after she found out. That's 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.520 that's surprising coming from you, because one thing she said 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.320 was that he was talking about it. He was gonna 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.320 shoot Eric. He stopped in eight Now you know he 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.040 finished shoot. You tell him you ain't gonna do a 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.639 drive by, but he gets in the car, or walks 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.359 over there and then do it and then get in 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.119 the car. I mean, if you didn't want to be 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.920 a part of that, you could have drove off when 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.840 he started shooting. Right. Well, I'm not so sure it 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.639 happened like that. I think. No, I'm going about what 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.600 she said. Yeah, she she got into the car after 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:35.960 she took a selfie. Did you know she took a 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.320 selfie with Nipsey. I try to say all that you 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.120 sing in the background, mocking me. You would have heard 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.320 all of that. She took a selfie, she got into 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.800 the car, He comes out of Master Burger, asked for 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.040 two dollars. He didn't. You didn't have the money, um. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.240 After she after he interacted with nip goes to get 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.120 his food from Aster Burger. Have a last good meal 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.399 because I'm about to go. Then he pulls the strap 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.520 out and that's the first time she sees the trap. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.920 But my point to all of that was he got 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:11.080 into the car with two guns. Unlessen, you one of 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.840 those questions. Yes, the first time she sees the gun 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:20.640 is when he slides it's saying that's what she's saying. Yeah, unlessen, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.720 he didn't get the mother up from Master Burgers. He 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.560 got into the car with a pair of pants on, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:31.560 a band and his neck and no shirt on. And 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.159 she didn't see two guns in this person. Well, I 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:35.880 don't know if he had a backpack or a bag 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.879 that's that that he has. Yeah, but it could have 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.120 been in the car in a backpack that he left. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.600 That's something that I don't know where the when when 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.359 she picked him up. Okay, this is what she said. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.320 That's what I said. She's full of ship lying and 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.480 and and a good defense pony going. So you mean 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.200 to tell me you got in my car, got into 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.240 the car, You picked this guy up, and he got 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.320 into your car and you didn't notice he had two 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:05.800 guns on him. Well, if they were concealed in something on, yeah, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.159 but you don't know if he had a bag. One 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:10.800 thing he had in his hand was a red shirt 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.520 and he didn't have a shirt on. He didn't have 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.679 a shirt on. He had a band data around his 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.200 neck that he put her on his neck. He could 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:19.639 have just had it tucked in the back of his 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.840 pants and got in the car and sat down. You know, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.320 I'm just going by what she said the first time 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:29.359 she sees. Also, he got no shirt on, and she 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.560 didn't recognize no game tattoos on him. She said she 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.440 recognized tattoos, but she didn't notice that none one game tats. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.040 I mean, I don't think looking at Eric Holder's tattoos, 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.920 I would be able to recognize which ones are ganging 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.760 lest something close, because he is fully tatted. He's got 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.000 tatted all the way going up his neck coming down. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.199 It's a little difficult when you're when you got that 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.920 many tattoos. This, this is my whole thing right here. Here, 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.840 you got a female that was there. Here, you got 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.840 another person that they give immunity to to solve a case. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.639 It don't make no sense. It don't make no sense. 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.400 She should be guilty, just like what's wrong with giving 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.679 her immunity they gave they gave her immunity, and they 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.240 also gave carry Layton cousin carry immunity. Well, I was 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.080 later after he was trying to violate this probation for life. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.320 And you know, I'm gonna tell you the reason why 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.520 they give them immunity one is so you can feel 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.680 comfortable with saying whatever you want. But also they don't 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.200 want anyone to sit there and plead the fifth. Once 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.119 you plead, you have a right to plead the fifth. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.119 But if you're giving immunity, there is no more pleading 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.480 the fifth. You don't have to. You can't lead the 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.720 fifth when you have a guilty Is she as guilty 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:49.120 as Eric? No, she didn't. If she drove off with him, 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:53.280 she came with him and left with him there and 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:57.160 then got over there he they both with the loan beat. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.879 What is guilty of first degree? Wait a minute second? 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.199 Agree at least after don't matter if both like. But 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.040 after she did the crime, she took him. She took 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.080 him to one house, then she took him to a 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:14.679 hotel room. I think she went to the motherhouse that night. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.760 She didn't want to take him to her. You're assuming 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.639 that she knows that he just shot Nip. She's in 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.560 an alley without any line of sight to where Nippy 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.679 Nips is at the gun fire. After she after she 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.520 went to call him, before she even took him to 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.000