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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie

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Speaker 1: Reck Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang

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Speaker 1: gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation

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Speaker 1: to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: My name is Alex Alonso from Street TV Street Gangs

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Speaker 1: dot Com, where I interview all the o g s,

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Speaker 1: I'm here with my two co hosts Jr. James McDonald

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Speaker 1: and Reggie Rick Junior also has another platform, Bomb First

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Speaker 1: and you can interact, call in comment while the show

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Speaker 1: is going on. And also, James, your shirts are finally done,

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Speaker 1: or or get the shirts to be honest, The patreon

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Speaker 1: on bomb for Versus the easier easiest way, but you

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Speaker 1: can check the link as well on the Patreon for

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Speaker 1: Against the Chronicles. It's active, but go to bond first

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Speaker 1: and go to the patreon and and pick up the shirt.

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Speaker 1: Man I'm telling you it's a it's a good quality

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Speaker 1: out and um, let's make it happen to support And

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Speaker 1: we actually talked about that shirt in detail. I believe

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Speaker 1: that was episode four or five. And I'll also put

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Speaker 1: a link in my Instagram to the bomb First Patreon.

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Speaker 1: I will make sure that's active and current. So this

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Speaker 1: is episode number sixteen. And if you're new to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: our episodes are interrelated. You won't start hearing me till

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Speaker 1: episode three. And if you're listening to this episode of

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Speaker 1: and radio dot Com. All right, um, usually I do

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Speaker 1: show from last week. Guys, what do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about? How? I mean, how bad you treated our guests?

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Speaker 1: thinking about the subject that you that offended you so much.

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Speaker 1: His question was was was the way black asked questions?

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Speaker 1: in jail with him right now. He probably would be,

427
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: but unfairly unfairly, You don't y'all don't get it. Y'all

428
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: don't get the point. They have nothing to make this

429
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: case without her. You can't just make a case by

430
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: video alone. And they have they need her because cousin

431
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: not cousin, because Perry Perry later and the other and

432
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Carrie's a nephew or not cooperating or at least wasn't

433
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: cooperating at that time, and so we don't know what

434
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: they say now. But without them, they had no case.

435
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: They speculation now unless he wouldn't there start talking. But

436
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: if y'all listen to the interviews, I've been trying to

437
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: tell y'all, watch forty eight hours and shut up, he lawyered.

438
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Then he would lawyer up pretty quickly. I don't know

439
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: if we don't know, I'm sure they didn't really want anymore.

440
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that part. I don't know that part.

441
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I see right now because you'll see

442
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: the new motion that is lawyer made today, uh any

443
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: requesting information to see if Nipsey was a police informant.

444
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I heard about that. All right, let me

445
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: let me read something right quick, and I want y'all discuss.

446
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: This is a ten minutes long This is the soul

447
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: of a lyric that he wrote, and I'm gonna say

448
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: it kind of a kind of quick now. This is

449
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: by Eric. This is his song that he wanted to

450
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: know if they heard, so he purposely asked them, have

451
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: you ever heard the song to Nipsy? You pussy ass

452
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: wrapped niggas trying to play me. I'll hit you with

453
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: the with the things. You must be crazy or you

454
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: must be cycled. Catch them bullets that I throw. I'll

455
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: hit you with the code keeping the rich rolling, with

456
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: your brains spilled on the floor, leave a nigga's blood

457
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: dripping as slipped the full clip and any nigga get

458
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: to tripping, and my nigga's get to chippy. We will

459
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: leave your ass missing when it's time to bus a mission.

460
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: Hollow points, get to spitting, and your flesh gets too

461
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: ripping paramedics calm, get you when I'm done with your

462
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: on a mission. I got a happy trigger finger. So

463
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that she didn't know he was

464
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: getting related knows all of that already rapping and killing

465
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: and carrying. Guys, you think she's on Spotify, that's that's

466
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: a Spotify account. You don't think either. Let this woman

467
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: listen to his is his song? His music. According to

468
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: the transcript, they just barely met. They've been like a

469
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: month apparently, and within the month Gene never played the

470
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: song on the music for Hey, I meet someone within

471
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: a month, I ain't playing on my YouTube video. He wouldn't.

472
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: They wouldn't intimate. And then she said they were. She

473
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: said what she said is uh they never took off No,

474
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: she said they were. Damn, I got it. They did.

475
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: It was the gest of it was that they had

476
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: uh sex, But it was not um that they didn't

477
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: take the clothes off. So that's that's not even relevant. Really,

478
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: he just said that he asked that question. I'm just

479
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: telling you what my whole thing is, How responsible do

480
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: y'all think she is in the death of Nipsey Hustle

481
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: she played she took him over there. Yeah, she did

482
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: take him over there, but not with the intention. Just

483
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: just gonna put your mind shed into a game banger's

484
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: mind a cat that is mad and pished off and

485
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: got raged. I'm sitting here with a chicken. We rolled it.

486
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: I swould have got off and to kill his motherfucker.

487
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I'm mad at this motherfucker. Man, I ain't time for

488
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: these niggers bullshit. So I'm gonna pop this motherfucker. We're

489
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna bounce. His conversation could have been anything, but don't shit.

490
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: You can't sit in and say that this she was

491
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: rolling and he just said in the card, not not

492
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: saying nothing. Actually, that's exactly what's in the transcript. They

493
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: said there was no conversation about Nipsey. That's she didn't

494
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: she they recognized Nipsey. He didn't even acknowledge Nipsey. The

495
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: first thing you're gonna do is drawback and say I

496
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing that she according to her. She should

497
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: let me, let me just touch her. Okay what I

498
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: said about the even though she hung out, um, she

499
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: met Okay, she met him on February two, thousand nineteen.

500
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I'll giving him a ride as a customer, So I

501
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: mean she's driving left over. That was February nineteen. You

502
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: want to make and they and the incident happened with

503
00:28:53,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: March twenty associate relationship up began, but she claimed the

504
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: suspect was not intimate towards her. They had one sexual

505
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: counter but never kissed. She claims to have seen him

506
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: multiple times with guns, which he said he needed for protection.

507
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: She also claimed to never have have seen any game

508
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: tattoos are known. He was a member of the sixty

509
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Rolling Rolling Crup game and we got the meeting to suspect.

510
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: She accompanied him to his cousin, Earl's apartment, where he

511
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: recorded music. Yeah, the music that you said he never heard,

512
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: but I don't like you said, I don't know it

513
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: was that particular song and she wouldn'tness his cousin giving

514
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: him a gun before they left or marsh To thirty

515
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: two nineteen. The suspect wanted to hang out with the driver,

516
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: but she was unable to because she had to work

517
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: that day. I wish she would have met him on

518
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: that Saturday, but so on the thirty one, which was

519
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: at Sunday, the driver called the suspect, who wanted her

520
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: to take her to take her out. He wanted her

521
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: to take him to In and Out I'm Burger. When

522
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: they met later that day, they changed plans because they

523
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: had already eaten. They decided to go to l A.

524
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: They both lived in Long Beach. When entering her car

525
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: that day, the suspect wasn't wearing a shirt, but was

526
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: carrying a red T shirt in his hand with they

527
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: bent down tied around his neck. When they reached Lowson Avenue,

528
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: the suspect directed her to pull into the Strip mall,

529
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: where the Marathon clothing store is located. When turning into

530
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the mall, the driver noticed Nipsey hustle and mentioned she

531
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: wanted to take a picture with him. The suspect remained quiet,

532
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: giving no indication that he knew Nipsey. According to the

533
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: witness thing, Nipsey recognized the suspects and asked one of

534
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: of his friends, is that shitty? The suspect exit the

535
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: car and walked into the Master Burgers. After leaving the

536
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: Master Burgers, he approached Nipsey and his crew, shaking their

537
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: hands showing that they were cool. Right, everything that's cool. Everything,

538
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: it's cool. Nipsey asked the suspect, where are you being,

539
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: which the suspect replied he had been staying out the way.

540
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Nipsey mentioned they're being paperwork on on the suspect, which

541
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the suspect replied, people was just hating on him. Nipsey

542
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: told him, which what's nown is sounding like he's like

543
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: concerned for him, not like shipping on him, like he's

544
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: out there people thinking like he was. But Nipsey told

545
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: him he was his bro and suggested he addressed it down.

546
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: This is not coming from her. This is coming from

547
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: either what's his name, either Cowboy or Perry what's his

548
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: name or either carry these This coming from now because

549
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: they because she's still in the car and he goes.

550
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: According to the witness in the conversation, not to get heated,

551
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: and there was no animosity or harsh words. The suspect

552
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: also asked the group had they heard his new song,

553
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: which they all replied no. The driver left left her

554
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: car and approached Nipcy for a picture. According to her

555
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: state her testimony, she heard the suspects had had he

556
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: ever snitched? Which is kind of funny. So she nigga,

557
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: have you ever snitched? You know? That conversation was going.

558
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Nipsey made it a gester like, waving him off, like nigga,

559
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: get the funk on, you know. Appearing to be done

560
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: with the conversation. The driver left the group, returned to

561
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: her car and immediately posted a picture of her and

562
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Nipsey on her Facebook page. The suspect walked back into

563
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: the Master Burgers, then to the driver car, accing r

564
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: for two dollars to pay for his food. He then

565
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: walked back into the Master Burgers and then before leaving,

566
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: approached Nipcy and his crew, shaking everybody's hands. Okay. When

567
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: they entered the driver's car, he directed her the driver

568
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: around the corner. He then pulled out the gun and

569
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: began loading it. Now she in the car with him

570
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: and he's lowing a gun out right. Wait, wait, say

571
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: that last sentence again. Uh. He then pulled out the

572
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: gun and began loading it. That's not what I read

573
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: in you're not reading the grandjury trans transcript, and said,

574
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: does not say that it says that he pulled the

575
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: gun out and he split it to load it, to

576
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: put one in the chamber. That's what it says in

577
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: the transfer. That's why I don't like reading. That's this summarize. No,

578
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: I told you summarize. That's a huge different. Loading the gun.

579
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: And he got guns. One of the guns. She's the gun.

580
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Let's keep going. Okay, he got a gun into then

581
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: he got a gun. Okay. The driver told he wasn't

582
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: going to do a drive by, so that you ain't

583
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna do drive all of my car used, yeah, like

584
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: we ain't doing no drive on. So from this point

585
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: the driver knew something was right. Would you agree? From

586
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: this point she knew someone was about to go down. No,

587
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: for her to make a statement like that, you have

588
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: to know how did you're not do a drive by?

589
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: But then you pull up your part. You let him

590
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: get out and then let him get back, and saying

591
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: you let she let him. She got no control. She

592
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: took her ass off once he got all of the cars.

593
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Soon as he got out of the car, and soon

594
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: she heard the shots. She could have bounced, oh no, listen,

595
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: come on, Okay, we can say what should have played out,

596
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: but shot, but anyway, okay. According to her testimony, she

597
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: pulled into the alley A fifty eight place, which is

598
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: one is on the corner of the marathon strip mall,

599
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: so he could eat his food. So now they're doing

600
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: all of this, and so now she's about to let

601
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: the eat all right. The suspect exit the vehicle, putting

602
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: on his red T shirt, saying he'll be right back.

603
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: According to the with the suspect approach Nipansey from behind

604
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: and said, you're you're through? Whoa? So this this one

605
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: of the other guys, saying is that in the dress

606
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: and begin fining with a gun in both hands. Let

607
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: mean he had two guns. With the gun both fans.

608
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Nipsey was hit a total of ten times. Ten times.

609
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: The driver herd two shots from her car and she

610
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: said she did that. She did the two car from

611
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: her car, and she waited for the suspect. She waited,

612
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: she said, I waited for them. I waited for the suspect.

613
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: The suspect in her car told her to drive. The

614
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: driver asked the suspect what had happened? What? She replied,

615
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: drive before I slap you. She asked the suspect where

616
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: he wanted to go next? What she replied to his

617
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: cousin Harold's apartment. I wonder llypd ever read a girl

618
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: becausin her old's house. They actually had warrants on all

619
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: these locations that she provided. Yeah, but I don't know

620
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: what happened, but they searched a few places based on

621
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: her cooperation. Got you, the driver asked the suspect. Whatever, okay?

622
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: She asked the suspect where he wanted to go? What?

623
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: She replied? Because? Okay. He also suggested she turned on

624
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: some music. Okay, now he needed he stressing out. Now

625
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: the shooting is over and they're gone. She dropped him off. Okay,

626
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: so not that. She dropped him off a cousin her

627
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: own apartment, and returned home to her mother's house, where

628
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: she learned Nipsey Hustle had been murdered. When the guy

629
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: she just took a picture with, Okay, but she took

630
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: him to the mama house and they spent that night.

631
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna get to that. Around a PM

632
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: that night, she received a phone call from the suspect

633
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: asking her to pick him up from the cousin's house.

634
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: She noticed he had changed clothes. He had asked could

635
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: he spend the night with her at her mother's house

636
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: the next morning, which is a for the first aple

637
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: through the day. The suspect as could he spend the

638
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: day there as she went to work, which she replied,

639
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: now you gotta go. You're gonna stay here while I'm

640
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: not here. He then asked her to help him get

641
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: a motel room. So they did. They apparently they did.

642
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: She did spend the night after after the murder over

643
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: she see it happened on TV, and then she goes

644
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: right away. Haven't said that? Ye? Did you say that?

645
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: She dropped him more on Harold house. She left, He

646
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: called her back. She noticed she changed clothes. How you

647
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: noticed he changed clothes? If he ain't come back, she said,

648
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: she she spent the night with James, picked him up,

649
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: came and got him, picked him up, and let him

650
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: spend the night at his and her MoMA house. Okay,

651
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: my point keep telling you no, she's accessory to murder

652
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: after the fact that all of that. But um nah,

653
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: even even holders not going to be found guilty at

654
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: first agree murder because he didn't go there with the intention.

655
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: He left the location and they came back, got in

656
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: his car and ate his food, loaded up the gun

657
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: or wrecked the gun, and get out and tell the

658
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: man nigger you're done. You said second degree. It's not

659
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: first degree premeditated plan second gree second degree if I

660
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: walk up to you and but do you think he

661
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: went up there with the intention to kill Nick? He

662
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: done when he went there to get his food. Nothing

663
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: that came later. When he went up there to get

664
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: his food, he had no thought of I'm gonna kill correct, correct,

665
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: And then within what five minutes it changed. That's premeditating

666
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: in the state of California. You're right, you only need

667
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: like and I think it's fair. You only need like

668
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: two or three minutes. You need minutes and just decide

669
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm about to kill this nigga. It's not a reaction.

670
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Now if he would have went there, if he would

671
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: just been talking to Nipsy walking up nifty man, I'm

672
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I got a problem with what you said. What you know,

673
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: even though I got my gun on, But I got

674
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: a problem with what you said to me. Man ask

675
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to me and mam a snitch. And I don't like

676
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: how you weighed me off, shrugged me off. Dog, What's

677
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: what's up with that? You know, don't mean, don't don't

678
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: be doing me like that. I ain't know no bitch

679
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: as nigga used the rapper and nifty go nigga, fuck you, huh.

680
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: And then I put my gun out and shooting, said

681
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: a degree murder. But that's kind of like set in

682
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: this car, ate some food, had his last meal. The

683
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: differences he had to walk to the car to get

684
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: the gun and come back as opposed to the gun

685
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: being on him. All you just go on the car,

686
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: get the gun and come back. He went ate his food,

687
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: got some money, has some food. Tell her, you know,

688
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: for her to even say that you ain't gonna do

689
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: no drive by all of my car. This nigga is

690
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: playing with the gun and she's like, wait, hold on,

691
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: you ain't right there, and then she already knew that

692
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: shooting if she All my point is, she's is the

693
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: prosecution biggest witness. They need her for all of this.

694
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: They stay and it's the defense attorney's gonna tear her

695
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: down because of her line. Yeah, I knew that, niggles

696
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: from sixty Yeah, I knew that, niggas when she still

697
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: walk away scot free, and she shouldn't walk away scot

698
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: free if there was another cat, if it was a

699
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: gang banger in the car with Yeah, the guy that

700
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: the guy in the back seat that's sleeping get charged. Yeah. Well,

701
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: usually because they have other witnesses that's willing to testify. Yeah,

702
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: unfortunately for for him that he got guys that's going

703
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: by the street cold, which honestly, you know what, huh

704
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: jump on the immunity day off of your immunity, get

705
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: away from a murtle. Ben. Let's get into it. Well, ship,

706
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. You have you brow up another top.

707
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and move on to us. Keep you

708
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: d okay, you want to talk about that? What's going

709
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: to well? Keith you d seems to be the hot

710
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: topic right now because of the we got we got

711
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: some time, we'll we'll, we'll wrap it up with this topic.

712
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Keith you d has definitely been the hot topic because

713
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: all those interviews at vlasmin putting out and it's about

714
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: to get hot in the next seven days. Yeah, he

715
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: hasn't got to the meeting potatoes. Yeah, he hasn't got

716
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: to the to the main parts that everybody he's been

717
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: If you've been reading the comments and like, we don't

718
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: care about this thing of being connected to the oscar?

719
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: What was the name uh the big king? Uh? Who

720
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: probably about that? We want to hear about the what

721
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: was your thoughts? Why y'all killed too while? And what happened?

722
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: But it comes to this question um that a lot

723
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: of people are asking about and criticized keip Di is

724
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: is the admission to Greg Kating? Is that considered snitching?

725
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked this because no one

726
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: ever got arrested, no one ever got charged, no one

727
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: went to jail, and it had no impact on the

728
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: investigation that the police had. It didn't have any positive impact.

729
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: Nothing happened from Kip d spilling the beans. But is

730
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: that still snitching? You know the way you hear is

731
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: showing them catch like uh not gotting them to say

732
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: dry snitching. I don't call the snitching because he used

733
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: this card at the right time. Here you got a

734
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: drug case. You can be sent away on this. And

735
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: here y'all want to know life him his brother and

736
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: it's a life sentence. He was looking at him, his brother,

737
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna give me immunity. Fucking this is

738
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: what happened. I called you. He played, he played the

739
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: system I think I thought he made a strategic move.

740
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing, and he was playing

741
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: chess when Kayden and them was playing checkers. How many

742
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: people you think that won't uh take that opportunity? And

743
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: then you you just gotta think everything you lose if

744
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: you go to jail. You you you stand up like

745
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: this and you say, I'm going to the fucking that's aat.

746
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He trying to say that

747
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: he lying that he that that he that he trigged

748
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: get grad hatings and he played grad hatings to get

749
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: out of a will ask me this, That's that's what.

750
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't Cating interested in the Biggie shooting because they happened

751
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. The POC shooting happened in Vegas, has

752
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: no relevance in Los Angeles. But Keith, you d really

753
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: I guess he knew that he did what he did.

754
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: He told him what he told he did that ship

755
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: and so he told was seeking information on the shooting

756
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: of Biggie Christopher Wallace correct and didn't get it. He

757
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: didn't get it because that ain't what he did. And

758
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: if they would have found out otherwise, he would have

759
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: lost that immunity agreement and he would have got charged

760
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: for the murder and his his sister, and his brother

761
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: and himself were being sending them to a federal penetunty

762
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: right now. But once they found out that, Okay, this

763
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: is the crime that you did, and they exonerated him.

764
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: He was their number one suspect. I was probably their

765
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: number two suspects, but he was there number one suspect

766
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: in that case. And they exonerated him. And so then

767
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: they move on to investigating myself and Teresa Swan and

768
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: other people, and they found out the truth and to

769
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: night and they found out what happened on that and

770
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: so they was like, Okay, Keith, he is telling the truth.

771
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: This is what we found out to be true. What

772
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: did they find out to be true? They found if

773
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: they find something to be true, I mean they're saying

774
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the cases close. It's not an active cage, and they

775
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: both close. I mean they ain't close officially, but the

776
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: ain't no cops out there beating on no doors trying

777
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: to solve anything. Well, it's a cold cage. Ain't a

778
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: cold case. It's a case that they know that they

779
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: came from. The suspects are dead. But technically they gotta

780
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: keep it open. But technically they got something that they

781
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: can do to close on the officially, and I know

782
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: lp D is considering doing it, and they was considering

783
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: doing it because they know who the suspects are in

784
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: the suspect is no longer with us, and and and

785
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and and it's a form and some type of prosecution

786
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: that they can do, but they haven't decided to do

787
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: that yet. But if you know they they in their minds,

788
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: law enforcement is convinced enough. Biggie Small's mother is convinced

789
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: enough by dropping the lawsuit that the case is SAWD

790
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: and and and she's moving on in her life and

791
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: the l A p D pretty much has moved on.

792
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: How do you how did you saw vocation? And nobody

793
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: went to jail. It's not salved Well, the number one

794
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: suspect is deceased. I know he said that she was.

795
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: The mama convinced apparently what they came and presented to

796
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: her and showed her. She was convinced enough to drop

797
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: her four million out of lawsuit against the city. Even

798
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: though the shooters in both Pock and Biggie are deceased.

799
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: Who the shootors who we believe to be. There are

800
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: other people in the car that are accessary to murder

801
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: that are still alive. Only Kifi in the park was

802
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: was Wardale by himself in that car? Yeah, no, no, no, no,

803
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: Now what, they'll have a person out there that they

804
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: believe and I believe the person that that's that that

805
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: um that hired you to do something that's just as

806
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: guilty as the person that did it. Now if you

807
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: can go out to that person, if you can prove

808
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: that particular case. But they exhausted all their possibility means.

809
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: And same thing with keip you D. He's saying that

810
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: he got the weapon and he was hired to do

811
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: that to pack as well. And I guess kep D

812
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: problem is well, well not kep D because Lost Vegas

813
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: not involved this. They don't have to honor this disagreement

814
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that Greg Katieans gave to kp D. Let's let's just

815
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: put that in the feds. Right, Yeah, that's that's just

816
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: a federal thing. Could do whatever they want, whatever the

817
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: funk they want. But motherfucker's all the time, come in

818
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: and come and confess and stuff. You get crazy bombs

819
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: off the street, come in confessing the crimes that they

820
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: had no part of it and not involved then. And

821
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: so in the United States of America, UH, and most

822
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: of our our law laws, you know, most of our

823
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: system it's just because a person come in and confesses something,

824
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: it's not good enough. You need something other than a

825
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: confession to prosecute someone on the case. And a d

826
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: A is not gonna prosecute anyone other Now, if she

827
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: night right now had to come to Jesus and been

828
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: watching all the interviews, keep e DVEs, Hey, goddamn right.

829
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: That was my childhood friend. That was my football player

830
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: guy that was driving the car, and and was was

831
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: in there in that car. I just noticed that I

832
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: just recognized you. And based on keeping statement, oh keep

833
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: you being vas Vegas, p D will pick that case

834
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: up in Rby. Now a good defensitory. What I'm trying

835
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: to tell you about this incident with the lady will

836
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: tear him up like you been twenty three years and

837
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden you recognize him and he

838
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: looks older now, and he looked different. How did you

839
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: look twenty three years ago? He showed a picture of

840
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: me twenty three years ago. I was a hundred pounds lighter,

841
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: you know, so people change over a twenty twenty three

842
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: year period then so a good defense per tear him up.

843
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: But if somehow he came and did that, or you

844
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: know what, God's been working on me. God just told

845
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: me that's why they have their their death bad confessions

846
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: and all of that people. But God' been working on me,

847
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: and man, I gotta come clean. I've been knowing all

848
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: my life it was keep d I just was living

849
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: by a street code. And I don't want to believe

850
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: that cold no more or whatever. That's a long shot,

851
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: but I agree y, Yeah, that's the only way that

852
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Keith you can never be arrested. We know what the

853
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: state of Nevada is even interested in this case anymore.

854
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: I think. Let me just say this. I know some

855
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: people that was the interview when KIEFI did uh the

856
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Death Row Chronicles interview. They came down, got the tapes,

857
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the tapes that wasn't uh air and all of that.

858
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: So they have some cops that are that are investigating.

859
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Just like and we know of this because it happened

860
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: to Bill Bill Cosby. How you get a new set

861
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: of law enforcement officers are a new d a that

862
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna run office on.

863
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: You get some crazy Las Vegas d A that comes

864
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: up and say I'm gonna, I'm gonna run on. I

865
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: want to solve the two Pox Corps murder case. And

866
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: this is what my platform wants to be to unseat

867
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: this this d A. That's what happened to Bill. People

868
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: don't know that's what happened to Bill Cosby. This guy

869
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: ran on the platform that I'm going to reopen all

870
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: these cases and I'm gonna get Bill Cosby njil. You

871
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: get a d A or something like that going to

872
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and operate like that, then you know it's

873
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: a possibility. But like you said, a good it did

874
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: this before and the rest because a good defense attorney

875
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: with tear shook night up on the stand. Yeah, now

876
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were the number two suspects in

877
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: the Park murder, not Pop you were the number two suspects.

878
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I was investigated behind that case and

879
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: I didn't took lie detective tests and all type of

880
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: stuff when that matter. Okay, so the Telegraph example, all

881
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: stuff with the l A p D. You didn't go

882
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: with the Task Force l APD and the task force.

883
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: So you took their polygraph or did you take your

884
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: own and then turn it on you took theirs? Was

885
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: by the d A n riverside? Okay? And and how

886
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: did you perform on that? I guess I did? Okay?

887
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: Were you're nervous when they questioned you? How he always

888
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: nervous because you don't know what you know? Yeah? Um?

889
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: Or what you thought you knew? Did you gotta remember

890
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: I was around all of that. Yeah, so I don't

891
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: know what don't you know? What I owed? What you

892
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: know and what you thought you knew? There was a

893
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: lot of suspicion going. You know. The difference between killing

894
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: them and I wasn't. I wasn't ever considered a person

895
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: of being a trigger man or it was always an orchestrator.

896
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: It's a difference getting the money to supply, setting it up,

897
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: setting it up, talking to meeting with that is they

898
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: would they would pay you, They would put you in

899
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: jail for setting up some ship, but they won't put

900
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: you in jail for driving the motherfuck around to kill them.

901
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: Motherfucker and didn't pick him up later, if I would

902
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: have came up and said, okay, all right, y'all got

903
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: me Reggie damn st y'all got me what the fosse

904
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: did it? I paid them? Yeah, give me a munity

905
00:51:52,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: the agreement. Hell no, you do themmunity over that to me?

906
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I told him about they needed because I knew how

907
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: they needed it. I was over that. So they tried

908
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: to link you to Wardell though, um and what was

909
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: what was the link between you? Never read murder? Rap? No,

910
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: I need to read and watch murder. That's the whole

911
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: great kating things. That's why you know I was exonerated

912
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: all of that. Now, you conspiracor white boys, they don't

913
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: believe that. But they don't even believe the whole Pucci

914
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: and the connection with Sugar and all of that. They

915
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to believe that the conspiracors are out there,

916
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: want to believe what the dirty cops. No, no, he

917
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: he didn't hire warning all the Pucci or anything like that. No,

918
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: that ain't true. He had David mack LPD cops. That

919
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: that that that that that that, um, he hired to

920
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: do this. This is a professional here, No, no random

921
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: guy could have did no ship like that. Let me

922
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: ask you this, when you when when the ship is

923
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: unfolding like this ain't going that way. And people start

924
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: blaming the police. You got police with their rowing, then,

925
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, don't just blame one. But they got l

926
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: APD cops that they're saying that is dirty. Then they

927
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: guys they got something confidence saying ain't good. I mean,

928
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: can you blame them for voice in their opinion on

929
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: saying that it's these gang bankers ain't got the mentality

930
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: or the mindset to pull this off like that, because

931
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear people say Tupac. They were standing

932
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: there on the corner waiting on Tupac post to driving

933
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: hitting the curve. And then but we're talking about Biggy,

934
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: Let's stay on try. No, I'm just saying, I'm using example,

935
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: killed all of this ship, and I don't need no

936
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: conspiracy coming the back up. Let's stay on track with

937
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: who we're talking about talking about. It ain't that. But

938
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: you don't jump and went to a Tupac thing when

939
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about Biggie. It's all I'm actually, let's talk

940
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: about big But they were both the same thing, right,

941
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: These people were talking about Biggie and Tupac and Tuopuck

942
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: and Biggie both being murdered by the shame people who

943
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: was talking about that. Everybody on TV in the newest

944
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: where I was never a question about what they know.

945
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Let's stay on track with

946
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: with the biggie thing. But on the biggie thing, there

947
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: was there's people out there. But okay, if we that's smart,

948
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: if we that's smart, than all of that is professional

949
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: and all of that. The guy that I supposedly hired

950
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: or had some relationship with, which have been in federal

951
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: pison for fourteen years, and and his partner and his

952
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: boys and all that under the Rampart investigation is what

953
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: what they try to link me to, which everybody think

954
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: police officers know everybody. I worked at Compton p D,

955
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: which was eight to ten miles away that were it

956
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: was a two department, you know, police department, and these

957
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: are cops that work the l A p D, which

958
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: is ten to twelve housing man. But everybody knows each other.

959
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: The people don't even realize that people went within the

960
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: LPD don't even know each other. And so but because

961
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: of that, I supposedly know the cops, but the cops

962
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: doing the whole Rampart investigation has never mentioned my name.

963
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: Or anything. But but the main question I wanted to

964
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: say is they always want to try and to say

965
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: this is a professional hit, and this, this, this and

966
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: this and this guy David Mackins the one who did

967
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: it because he has an SS and polo professional hit.

968
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Cops wanna no cops all that, but he's gonna use

969
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: his own personal car to do a drive by to

970
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: kill Biggie Small. Come on, your stupid white Let me

971
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: ask you this. When they were questioning you, did they

972
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: already believe that Wardell was the shooter or were they

973
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: a little bit unclear on who the shooter could have been.

974
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what they knew. I don't know what

975
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: they knew, no question the way you got questions what

976
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: they all. I think was dead at the time. I'm

977
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: not even sure because I don't remember the timelines. I

978
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: think he was dead though, no wardal Um. If you

979
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: didn't find out they didn't find Wardell is Pucci foos

980
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: For those who don't know, they didn't get on the

981
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: Wardale files until um during their investigation by the persons

982
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: that were actually involved, came up with their name. He

983
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: was still alive. I don't know. I don't know that

984
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when they investigat I don't know when

985
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Pucci died. I think because this investigation went down like

986
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, two tho eight, when Biggie mother filed

987
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: a four hundred million I was also against the city

988
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: of Remember when Pucci got killed. If every is it

989
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: public that everybody? Do everybody know that you had these tests?

990
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: Did they gave you the polygraphs? I have mentioned it,

991
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know lpd is you said it in

992
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: his book, not about the lot detective. I don't think. No,

993
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was actually surprised that you was.

994
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I've been exonerated. I have no

995
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: problem speaking on it. I've I've been offered the immunity

996
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: of agreement. And we just got angry at me. You

997
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: know you're in a cute but you I hate when

998
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: people go from Tupac. I hate being associated. It bothers

999
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: me to the core being associated to two. But that's

1000
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: what I say. You say. I just actually used an

1001
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: example that we were talking about, which was was Biggie

1002
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: because I hate for my name to be brought up

1003
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: in this Tupac ship. It bothers me to the core.

1004
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: Man Biggie ship. I don't care about I really don't. Well,

1005
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure James is sorry. I'm just saying I mean

1006
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: he missed understood that are I didn't understand what I

1007
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: was trying to say. I was trying to use that

1008
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: as an example, but maybe I mean, you know, hey,

1009
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: some people get touchy. It's okay, not insensitive. Well, we

1010
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: got all the way to foosh spouse from keep d

1011
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: admissions um and this all started from addressing the issue.

1012
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: If is keep e D considered a snitch on Formant

1013
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: because of what he did with Greg Katie, what do

1014
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: you think do you think he was man was wrong

1015
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: for doing it? I really don't. It's like what we're

1016
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: talking about Freeway Ricky Ross he told on all the

1017
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: corrupt cops and his investigation, and people started labeling him

1018
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: a snitch. And I'm like, wow, Like how broad is

1019
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: this definition of snitching? Like, well, it has gotten overboard

1020
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: from from the beginning of time and and and people

1021
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: use it loosely, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,

1022
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: just like we keep your d man, the dude had

1023
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: a chicken. And if all of these guys are dead,

1024
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: who am I hurting you? Know what I'm saying. Why

1025
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: would I speak Your nephew would never hear this confession,

1026
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and then I saved

1027
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: my sister and my uncle to somebody from going to

1028
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: the penitentry behind my ship. And I also shaved myself. Yeah,

1029
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: one person and we were overlooking. One person was still

1030
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: still alive at the time when he did get this confession,

1031
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: and that was the driver of the vehicle. Brown parents

1032
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: should hear that one to jail? If just like I

1033
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: said before, just because you go and just because you

1034
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: go and do a confession, you need more than that

1035
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: confession to have someone incarcerated or to be arrested. You

1036
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: can't even pick him up. But you don't want to

1037
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: mess up your case once they froze up on you.

1038
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: So that's why you follow up around. You try to

1039
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: get a case on them. Hey, do we know what

1040
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Terence's reaction was when Kifiti gave that admit into Greg Kating.

1041
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. I'm sure you know because he didn't live.

1042
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: He died shortly there after a few years he got

1043
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: killed in the marijuana Dispenserianum and comforta well, I mean,

1044
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm i don't know if I'm gonna just call Keith

1045
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: a snitch because I think I think he had a plan.

1046
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: I think it was all strategic. I think he knew

1047
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: what he was doing. Um, I guess you can say

1048
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: he threw his nephew under the bus, but his nephew

1049
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: was deceased. Um, no one was gonna go to jail,

1050
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: No one's getting arrested, no one's getting indicted. Did he

1051
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: look at it as a meal chicken? And he got

1052
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: everyone out? He got everybody. I would have took the deal.

1053
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: Let me just say that, I would have took the

1054
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: deal it was offered to me. But but I come

1055
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: from a different code. I'm a law enforcement and all

1056
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: of that, and I'm not a street nigger. But UM,

1057
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Speaker 1: let me just say that. Um, his sister had a

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01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: stroke behind us, knowing that her son was implicated like that,

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01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: even though no one it will save in her life,

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: him and his brother relationship are still not the same today.

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Speaker 1: He are you talking about Orlando's mom and k e.

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Speaker 1: D They still not the relationship to this to this day,

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: like that, and so even though that they did, you know,

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: he saved their lives or whatever, or or you know,

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't make them have to go and fight and go

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: in the system and fight something. They still don't like

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not appreciative to the fact that

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: he spoke. He spoke on the nephew like that implicated

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01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: him and something worldwide like that. So basically the family

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: ship feel a certain kind of we're opposed to people

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Speaker 1: on the street. The streets didn't got nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with it. That's your family thing. I mean, how do

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: you label that? I mean, I get it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I get it, but I'm not from that world. So

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Speaker 1: that's something you shouldn't see. What I'm saying is you're

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: my uncle and you're gonna put me out there like that,

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01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: and I and I'm trying to tell people I ain't

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: like that. So what if I was still here? What

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01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: would what would be the consequence? That's a great question.

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01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: What if Orlando was still alive, got popped for that

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: drug traffic and he had to sit that withe out.

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01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: That would have been a cold situation right there. So

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: now that changes the game if it's changes the game.

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: So you know, but your sister and your family wouldn't

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01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: feel that way because you put the baby in a

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: situation like that, and they're not saiding well with it

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: because you shouldn't have never even said about it. Well,

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01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,479
Speaker 1: I think, and he was also bringing Puffy comes down

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01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: with that T Brown or T. Bawn, whatever his name is, Terrence,

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: he is bringing him down. So you know it was

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: people that according you know, to the code that we're

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01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: being um you know, so now are you trying to

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: save yourself, saving you you you, yourself and your family,

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: but you jeopardizing the freedom of to other people? Yeah,

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,959
Speaker 1: that's true because Keith, you can't predict what's gonna happen

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: to Terrence or if they're gonna investigate Puffy, which they

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: tried to. They try to pull that case all the

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Speaker 1: way from Las Vegas to l A p to l

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: A Jurisdiction because they said the plan was made in

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01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: l show down the game switch again. If they get Puffy,

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: do we you got immunity, but you will have to testify. Now.

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Speaker 1: Now his argument would be, well, the nigger didn't do

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. He didn't pay me my

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: money and he didn't do that. But so he's feeling

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01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: salty now. You know, in the investigation, we learned that

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: ye Puffy did pay the five hundred thousand dollars. How

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: do we know well from informants and other people. Uh,

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: von Zilk was the mediator, and you know, Puffy pretty

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: much said that, uh I gave the money to zipf

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Speaker 1: that if he did that, he implicateslf right. That's just informants,

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: that's just people talking nobody. Guess it's not like they

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Speaker 1: got Puffy on tape or Zip. You know, Zip died,

1113
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: but just think they would have leaned on Zip actually

1114
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: got into a fight with von Zip once in here

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: in l a Hollywood boulevard. I didn't even know who

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Speaker 1: he was, and everybody was telling me, hey, man, leave

1117
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: that dude alone. And I'm like, man, he's disrespectful, leave

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: him alone. You don't know who that is. You since

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01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: a little short time, I know you don't disrespected. You

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Speaker 1: don't disrespect the ship Night. You don't disrespected? Uh von Zill,

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: how don't respect night? Night? Actually packed out one of

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Speaker 1: my one of my very close friends from where I

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: grew up at you know, okay, so and he's putting

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Speaker 1: and he put a gun and one of my boys,

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Speaker 1: Um what so, No, I didn't disrespect. Uh I adn't

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Speaker 1: disrespect shook I certainly didn't disrespect lad and maybe I

1127
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: did disrespect von Zippelotte, you know. But he was out

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: there with his uh I don't know, Kashmir blazer and

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01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: all these fancy clothes. Yeah he was, and I think

1130
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: we bumped into each other in the club and I

1131
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: was like, dude, get off me, and somebody was like,

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01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: I'll leave him alone, and uh, he tried to win

1133
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: it go in on me. I was like, dude, and

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01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: he's a little older than me. I was like a

1135
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: little too old to be trying to messle me. Everybody's like,

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01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: y'all know what that is. No, I don't care what

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: you is. But um, it was all good, all right,

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: well you know what, we'll we'll wrap it up right

1139
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: there and uh hopefully, uh we could probably continue this

1140
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: conversation on what is the snitch? And with a snitch?

1141
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 1: And because this always comes up, man, But I want

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Speaker 1: to thank everybody for listening to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles. Be sure to go to iTunes if you're

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: listening to on your Apple device and give us a

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: rating and a review, and don't forget to check out

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01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: bomb first. If you want to get James's shirt, go

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: to the Patreon which will be linked through bomb first

1148
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: and also I'll have a link on that from my Instagram,

1149
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 1: Street Gangs and street TV. I'll even put a link

1150
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: on it on my YouTube. And thanks again for listening

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Speaker 1: to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This has been

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Speaker 1: a digital Showbutch Network production.