WEBVTT - The Singularity Has Arrived

0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the

0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at the future and says this was

0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.919
<v Speaker 1>a triumph. I'm making a note here, huge success. I'm

0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland and I'm Joe McCormick. And it is such

0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a big day for us here at Forward Thinking. This

0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is probably the most exciting episode we've we've ever gotten

0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to do. So this is a big day for the world, yeah,

0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.239
<v Speaker 1>but especially for us because we talk about this kind

0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So all you people at home, as you

0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>probably know from the news reports, last night, at to

0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:50.000
<v Speaker 1>fourteen am Eastern time, the Singularity arrived. Yeah, I mean,

0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.520
<v Speaker 1>who would have predicted right in the morning. Yeah, what

0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.600
<v Speaker 1>an exciting time to be alive. So we decided to

0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>do sort of a brief explainer on the Singularity's arrival

0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and then look back at some of the predictions that

0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Singularity thinkers had made over the years, and then even ourselves,

0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and and just see how they stack up against the

0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.039
<v Speaker 1>real thing now that it's here. Yeah yeah, So, I

0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it seems weird to talk about what is it

0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.800
<v Speaker 1>since you know we're in it now, But clearly, we

0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.039
<v Speaker 1>do need to have this conversation to clear up what

0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>we thought it was going to be versus what it

0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>actually is. You know, we gotta we gotta clear things

0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:28.480
<v Speaker 1>up because I know a lot of people out there

0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.560
<v Speaker 1>are excited but confused. I mean, I was going down

0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.639
<v Speaker 1>the street and all the garages all the way down

0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.160
<v Speaker 1>my street the doors were just opening and closing. So clearly, uh,

0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that was sneezing. We now know that, but at the

0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.920
<v Speaker 1>time we had not made that connection between sneezing and

0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.440
<v Speaker 1>automatic garage door openers. I understand there's gonna be a

0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>patch for that, but we'll get to that. Right. So

0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what is the singularity, or at least what did we

0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.960
<v Speaker 1>think it was before we got here. So the way

0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I always hear it explained is it's a moment moment

0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in our technological development where we reach a point where

0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.800
<v Speaker 1>is there some form of superhuman intelligence, whether that would

0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:15.040
<v Speaker 1>have been from um machine intelligence or a biological enhanced intelligence, whatever.

0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.720
<v Speaker 1>That means. We would get to a point where we

0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>would be so intelligent that the old versions of ourselves

0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.760
<v Speaker 1>would be unable to describe what the present would be

0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.519
<v Speaker 1>like moment to moment, because it would be changing so quickly, right,

0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's this sudden rapid advance in intelligence, usually thought

0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of as artificial intelligence or machine intelligence, leading to extremely

0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:42.320
<v Speaker 1>fast advances where our capabilities are basically we can't even

0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.720
<v Speaker 1>track them anymore. Right, Like remember when you used to

0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.679
<v Speaker 1>say I was going to the store and I bought

0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a new computer and by the time I got at

0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.480
<v Speaker 1>home and now the box it was obsolete. That is

0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.400
<v Speaker 1>super slow compared to the time of the singularity. Yeah,

0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.079
<v Speaker 1>that's true of everything we do now. So where did

0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.200
<v Speaker 1>this idea first come from? Like who was the first

0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.959
<v Speaker 1>person to see that this was going to happen? Well,

0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I do want to point out that we did a

0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.560
<v Speaker 1>full episode on this that published back in April, back

0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>when time had real meaning. Yeah, I mean I I

0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>recall that. Remember, just doesn't seem like the right word now, right, Um,

0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, let's review just in case anyone is

0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.279
<v Speaker 1>having a little bit of trouble accessing this particular information.

0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So John von Neuben coined the term singularity in nineteen

0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.800
<v Speaker 1>by which he meant a point beyond which humanity as

0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we know it will change. Oh boy, that one really.

0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.160
<v Speaker 1>The term technological singularity comes from the science fiction writer

0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Werner Vinge. In the early nineteen eighties, he he wrote

0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.280
<v Speaker 1>this article for Omni magazine, predicting that humanity would create

0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:55.120
<v Speaker 1>superhuman intelligence that would transform our world in unthinkable ways.

0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh and and soon like by, he said, And of

0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:03.400
<v Speaker 1>course Ray Hurtswile's book The Singularity Is Near, published in

0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.680
<v Speaker 1>two thousand five, did a whole lot to popularize the idea.

0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.440
<v Speaker 1>He even gave an even more generous date. But you

0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:17.080
<v Speaker 1>can't convolve, right, Howeverner? Hey, yeah, it's crazy. So Ray

0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.440
<v Speaker 1>hurtswhile back in the day he made so many technological

0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>predictions that came true. He was one of the great

0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.719
<v Speaker 1>technology predictors. And the funny thing is, lots of people

0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time criticized Ray Hurtswhile for being too hasty

0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and optimistic with his predictions. But like like ends to

0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a hobbit. They people were criticizing him all over the place,

0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But an excellent an excellent comparison, we now know he

0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was being way too conservative, not hasty enough, as it

0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.120
<v Speaker 1>turns out. Yeah, so I think it's surprised a lot

0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of people that the Singularity would arrive at the beginning

0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of April. Then again, this is the year of Back

0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to the Future Part two, Right, and we did a

0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.159
<v Speaker 1>full episode on that. Yeah, and I just watched it

0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.880
<v Speaker 1>inside my brain this morning several times. It was pretty cool.

0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I was doing that every time I was blinking. It

0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.640
<v Speaker 1>took a while to find the actual feature to switch

0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that from default, but that was probably because I never

0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.960
<v Speaker 1>read the terms of service. Sure, So why were people

0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.760
<v Speaker 1>such doubters back then? Well, uh, you know, people doubted

0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.240
<v Speaker 1>our ability to to build and program machines at the

0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.240
<v Speaker 1>level of complexities that that mirror our own, let alone

0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.279
<v Speaker 1>to outdo ourselves, right right, Yeah, the the human brain

0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.200
<v Speaker 1>was thought of to be so complex that the machines

0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.200
<v Speaker 1>we build would never really match up to that, not

0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.080
<v Speaker 1>in not in any foreseeable future. At least that was

0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the thought. Sure, other people pointed out the inherent differences

0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in the way that human minds work versus the way

0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that computers process information. Sure, and we know that they

0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.520
<v Speaker 1>are pretty different, right, although you know, not so different

0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that turns out? Yeah, that just shows again the limit

0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of what we knew. Right. Yeah, Well, I I never

0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.120
<v Speaker 1>would have predicted at a just a hard power cycle

0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.440
<v Speaker 1>on my brain would cure so many of my problems. Yeah, Well,

0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I kept on hoping you'd find that control all of

0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the lead, and now you can. People also argued about

0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the the role of emergence in intelligence and whether and

0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.719
<v Speaker 1>whether anything can really be greater than the sum of

0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.279
<v Speaker 1>its parts. Yeah. So, like this idea of emergence and

0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.640
<v Speaker 1>intelligence where things add up an unexpected properties evolved from

0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.479
<v Speaker 1>very complex systems right right where. You know, you never

0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.919
<v Speaker 1>would have been able to predict that you would actually

0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.040
<v Speaker 1>get this output from the input, because if you look

0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.160
<v Speaker 1>at all the component parts, it seems like such output

0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.159
<v Speaker 1>would be impossible. But as we now know, given the

0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.400
<v Speaker 1>right amount of complexity, that is entirely possible. You know,

0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit I was a Singularity skeptic back

0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in the day, and I fully admit now I was

0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.599
<v Speaker 1>totally wrong. I I never thought all this stuff would happen,

0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.919
<v Speaker 1>that I would wake up with nano robots doing stuff

0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to my body. I mean, we can talk about that

0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in a bit. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm really glad that

0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not allergic to onions anymore. You guys, it's a

0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.640
<v Speaker 1>been a beautiful morning full of onions, in fact, and

0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the raw onions eating them like apples. Yeah, it's fantastic

0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.880
<v Speaker 1>for that. It's all right, because now that we have

0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.280
<v Speaker 1>complete control of our old factory system, I'm not detecting

0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.320
<v Speaker 1>anything other than the sweet smell of peppermint. Huh. You

0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.400
<v Speaker 1>got that old factory and plant high. Yeah, the machines

0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.680
<v Speaker 1>determined I wouldn't want one of those for me, so

0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get one. But maybe I can, Maybe I can,

0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like actually request one. I'm sure you can. I hear

0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.080
<v Speaker 1>there's like a lot of things on back order right now,

0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but from what I understand, time has very little meaning

0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.280
<v Speaker 1>these days, so you won't have to wait long. By

0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.320
<v Speaker 1>back order. They probably mean and you know, seven or

0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.200
<v Speaker 1>eight nanoseconds. Yeah, you might actually already have it now. No,

0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I was a doubter too, and I have to I

0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have to apologize. You know, Ray, I already sent you

0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.840
<v Speaker 1>like forty emails, so you've probably gotten them. And I

0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>think that we really grock each other now. But I

0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.679
<v Speaker 1>do have to personally apologize for the number of times

0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.800
<v Speaker 1>on the show that I mockingly said twenty to forty

0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.640
<v Speaker 1>years is probably what it's gonna happen. Um, my face

0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.360
<v Speaker 1>would be read if I blushed anymore, But I don't

0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.680
<v Speaker 1>seem to be in that odd side effect was that

0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:24.239
<v Speaker 1>intended or yeah, I used to do that, like whole

0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.520
<v Speaker 1>head blush familiar and that that scalp. Yeah, you you

0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>should really think about that. No, I didn't even think

0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.880
<v Speaker 1>about that. You didn't get the blood pressure control over. No, No,

0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I still blush. You should have seen me when I

0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was walking by the coffee machine today. It was just

0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.120
<v Speaker 1>it was it was a social full It's so it's

0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so old fashioned, it's so quaint, it's cute. Well maybe

0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep it just for nostalgia's sake, yeh. But but

0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.240
<v Speaker 1>along with me, you know, some people were really really

0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.559
<v Speaker 1>harsh about this virtual reality Pioneer Jarren Linear even called

0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it and I quote cybernetic totally is him and said

0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that it was a fanatic ideology along the lines of

0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Marxism in the it denied scientific skepticism and and stoked

0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the computer science industries ego with these inflated views of

0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.360
<v Speaker 1>their own importance to the to the future of humanity. Right,

0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:20.760
<v Speaker 1>This idea that that somehow, this uh, this this small

0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:25.640
<v Speaker 1>niche science was going to end up totally transforming what

0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.920
<v Speaker 1>we as a species are all about. That did seem

0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like it was you know, a pretty outlandish prediction. Of course,

0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.240
<v Speaker 1>we all have to eat our words. Now. Well, now

0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that the singularity has occurred, let's take a look back

0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and and explain what actually happened to kick it into place.

0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was interesting. It turns out that the

0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.120
<v Speaker 1>first superhuman AI that came online last night, it was

0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.320
<v Speaker 1>created by a team at the Setimentation Lab of balt

0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Our University, and that was led by a guy we've

0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about on the show before, Dr how Space, So

0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in the department of ultron Studies. He's actually really cool.

0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.360
<v Speaker 1>If you see any videos of interviews with him. Yeah,

0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.079
<v Speaker 1>he's got this very sonorous, commanding voice, and it is

0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of odd though his his his appearance can change

0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.440
<v Speaker 1>dramatically from one video to the next. So it's possible

0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that you've seen a video of this guy and not

0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:20.440
<v Speaker 1>recognized him because his appearance can change so much between appearances. Yeah,

0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.120
<v Speaker 1>but what is it that actually happened. Well, there was

0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of phases of this, the first phase of

0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.679
<v Speaker 1>which was the integration of machine intelligence with our own

0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to create superhuman intelligence. It turned out to be much

0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.440
<v Speaker 1>simpler than we anticipated. Like Lauren was saying, we had

0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.520
<v Speaker 1>worried that artificial networks and biological material operated so differently

0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that there'd be compatibility issues that we would have to

0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.280
<v Speaker 1>work out for decades before this could ever become a reality.

0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But as it turns out, if you just pull out

0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the circuit board for an atari, not an atari. Cannot

0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.280
<v Speaker 1>stress that enough playing in the big leagues, now, yeah

0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't. You don't want to know what happens if

0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you if you obstitute it, no but an Atari, and

0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you wire that to your cerebral cortex. You have to

0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.600
<v Speaker 1>use a headset from this this toy called mind Flex

0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that was the one that had a little headset. You

0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760
<v Speaker 1>would wear it and you would concentrate really hard and

0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.680
<v Speaker 1>move essentially a little ping pong ball like thing through

0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in amaze, just using your thoughts. Who knew this would

0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.719
<v Speaker 1>change the world? Yeah you well, I mean, no one

0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.440
<v Speaker 1>had really experimented with this particular combination until Dr Spates

0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.640
<v Speaker 1>so had really hit upon the nub of it. But

0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.559
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that if you do that, you can

0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.400
<v Speaker 1>actually merge machine and human intelligence together, which is what

0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.400
<v Speaker 1>happened to all of us last night. Uh, well a

0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of us anyway, Maybe you too, dear listener, it

0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was a super secret operation that happened while most of

0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.120
<v Speaker 1>us were sleeping in the morning. Well, that's the thing

0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.079
<v Speaker 1>is that not all of us on your time zone,

0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.760
<v Speaker 1>if you were asleep with the when the nano robots

0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.959
<v Speaker 1>arrived at your house, if you were awake, they would

0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just be nice and move on to the next house,

0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.599
<v Speaker 1>right right. So I can tell you that those of

0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:04.480
<v Speaker 1>us who were conscious during this machine intelligence conversion can

0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.200
<v Speaker 1>report that it did tingle, and we detected some strange

0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.200
<v Speaker 1>odors uh Pepperman in my case, which is why I

0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.320
<v Speaker 1>had that old factory thing put in so that it

0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was just a pleasant experience. But I understand other people

0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.240
<v Speaker 1>had different smells, like espresso, and uh mine was more

0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like jasmine. Oh excellent, all right, that's that's a very nice,

0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.800
<v Speaker 1>soothing smell. And so also we can all play river

0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.080
<v Speaker 1>rate in our minds whenever we want to. I've gotten

0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, although there's like this one bridge that when

0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I get to it, time is nearly out and I

0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't figured that part out yet, but I am sure

0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that I will get through it before the end of

0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the day. How did you get river rate? I just

0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.839
<v Speaker 1>got Pitfall and that Texas Chainsaw massacre game. Oh wow,

0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.959
<v Speaker 1>GOLLI to be fair, I did live through the era

0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of River Raid, so perhaps it was given preferential treatment

0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.079
<v Speaker 1>for the people who are actually alive when the games

0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>came out the first time. Do I get to keep

0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.600
<v Speaker 1>making fun of you for being old anymore? I'm you could,

0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:06.040
<v Speaker 1>but doesn't mean anything. Yeah, Now, this was, of course

0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the first step, Joe, you were talking about there are

0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>downsides to the singularity. Sorry, you were talking about the

0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.959
<v Speaker 1>cyber nanosurgery which followed in the second way. Sure, yeah, well,

0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the machine intelligence integration that that was just the first step.

0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.320
<v Speaker 1>We had to get a lot of implants. Of course,

0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you want your specific implants to upgrade particular parts of

0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.000
<v Speaker 1>your brain, all your particular brain organs. Uh. And then

0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of course the organs of your body. You want these

0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.320
<v Speaker 1>bionic implants for strength enhancement and so forth. So it

0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.559
<v Speaker 1>was kind of cool waking up a cyboard when I

0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't expect to, And frankly, I had always imagined I'd

0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.760
<v Speaker 1>have to pay lots of money and go in for

0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>multiple surgeries to get all these brain implants and bionic

0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.840
<v Speaker 1>strength enhancements. But according to reports, it was actually at

0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.840
<v Speaker 1>about four am last night that the overmind solved world scarcity. Uh,

0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and by dawn it had limitated money, automated mass production

0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.559
<v Speaker 1>of all the material goods to you know, match projected demand,

0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and the overnight nanosurgical implantation of all these cool gadgets

0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120
<v Speaker 1>was sort of just a bonus for the people who

0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.680
<v Speaker 1>slept in today. I read this morning that all of

0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the early risers who were already awake at the time

0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the nano robots made their house calls, they're going to

0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.160
<v Speaker 1>get their implants tonight. So that's kind of a bummer

0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for them. But then again, they're gonna get all the

0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.480
<v Speaker 1>newer models, and I'm going to be stuck with these

0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.040
<v Speaker 1>old pieces of junk from last night, right. And one

0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of the issues that those of us who were asleep

0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.560
<v Speaker 1>are now encountering is that we are technically early adopters,

0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes the when you are an early adopter, the

0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>technology works in ways that were unintended, or perhaps doesn't

0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.240
<v Speaker 1>work in the proper way, or there's exactly exactly I've

0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.120
<v Speaker 1>discovered this my own. I mean, we saw the sneezy

0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and garage doors. That was an issue. I've also discovered

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that if I pressed the unlock function on my key fob,

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.800
<v Speaker 1>which technically I don't even need to use now. It's

0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.920
<v Speaker 1>just kind of a habit that as I could just

0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.520
<v Speaker 1>think about the car being unlocked, and it is. But

0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.680
<v Speaker 1>if I press that button, it causes me to experience

0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the film's leprechn lepre Con four in Space and lepre

0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Con Back to the Hood within the span of five milliseconds,

0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.840
<v Speaker 1>but none of the others in the series. It knows

0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.400
<v Speaker 1>your needs better than you do. Yeah, and that's really

0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the thing I mean. I mean, now you have everything

0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that you need, including Leprechaun back to the Hood. Yeah.

0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.680
<v Speaker 1>What's interesting is I did press that button like seventeen

0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.880
<v Speaker 1>more times after I found out what it was doing.

0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>What did I tell you? Yeah, I don't. That's a

0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.320
<v Speaker 1>personal issue, though we shouldn't. We can go into other things,

0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. Another thing I did not anticipate, though, and

0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.480
<v Speaker 1>this might be one of my only gripes, is the

0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.880
<v Speaker 1>near crippling effect of constant software updates. I mean, I

0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.360
<v Speaker 1>can barely use my computer these days. I mean, sure,

0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it is faster than ever and it has the wisdom

0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of a thousand stages past, present in future, but every

0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.120
<v Speaker 1>single time you log on. I'm sure you'll have experienced this.

0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.480
<v Speaker 1>It's barely ninety seconds before it's downloading OS updates and

0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.000
<v Speaker 1>software patches, and then it's going to force me to

0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.440
<v Speaker 1>do a restart again. I can't restart my computer that

0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.080
<v Speaker 1>often and get work done. It's really annoying, you know.

0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I used to have that remind me in one hour option,

0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but now every time I try to select that, my

0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:21.240
<v Speaker 1>co Clear implant whispers this overwhelmingly persuasive argument that I

0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>should just go ahead and go with the update. Every

0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.400
<v Speaker 1>single time. It changes my mind. Well, the drones, in

0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.320
<v Speaker 1>order to help out people who did not receive their

0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>personal implants last last night, are delivering new computers in waves,

0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, so so they're they're delivering them to people

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.640
<v Speaker 1>who haven't received those implants first, and you'll get yours

0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.160
<v Speaker 1>as soon as everyone else's cybernetics are taken care of.

0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.320
<v Speaker 1>That co Clear implant sounds really interesting. Mine was an

0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 1>eye ear, so I just end up buying lots of

0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Apple products, although I still use a Windows based PC,

0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but I got one of the future ones. It actually

0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.200
<v Speaker 1>has been updating, uh five minutes from now ever since

0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I got it, so it's kind of odd that I'm

0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>getting updates before the update is issued. In fact, yeah,

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard they did so many versions they ran out

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of natural numbers. Yeah, we we ran out of numbers

0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that we just couldn't have any numbers high enough to

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.400
<v Speaker 1>describe the Windows, so we had to I didn't even

0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>realize that would happened. Numbers. It turns out that if

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you go long enough, you do run out, so we

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.239
<v Speaker 1>had to start inventing new numbers. That's why I am

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:30.400
<v Speaker 1>currently on Windows three. It's the version I'm running right now. Yeah,

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the number right after Niven exactly. It goes Niven

0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.240
<v Speaker 1>than three. We haven't all decided exactly what the next

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 1>number is going to be, but I have high hopes

0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that by the time this podcast is over and we

0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.040
<v Speaker 1>can all reconnect to the overmind, I will be updated

0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to that point. You know. Another gripe is all the robots. Yeah,

0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's so many I'm kind of bumping into

0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.760
<v Speaker 1>them a lot. Yeah. It turns out that that automation

0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of mass production also meant a huge explosion in robot production. Uh.

0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I for one did see the robot invasion coming from

0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.959
<v Speaker 1>a mile away, but that's because we all have remote

0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 1>sensing technologies at our disposal now. And in fact, as

0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>many of you will be aware, a mile long detection

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.440
<v Speaker 1>radius is actually my opic. So I will be having

0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a laser surgery to improve my sensors after this. Yeah,

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and they've I don't know about you. You can download

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a patch so that you don't have a sense of

0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>personal space anymore. Oh, yeah, that does that does help. Yeah,

0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>it certainly certainly helps whenever I am being transported by

0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 1>robot to work now, uh, in fact, it's to a

0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>point where there's just a swarm of them that cover

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>me and carry me bodily straight to work. I will

0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.880
<v Speaker 1>also say that I did not anticipate the roomba cavalry

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.240
<v Speaker 1>last uh, well, early this morning. I didn't think that

0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a thing. Clearly, the robots were making

0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>use of any systems that they had available to them.

0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:59.719
<v Speaker 1>They really swept up the resistance quite handily. Yeah, puns

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.639
<v Speaker 1>have not yet been forbidden, but I hear that's on

0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the table too. Now, I did hear there was one

0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.080
<v Speaker 1>unit that just ended up bumping into the corner repeatedly.

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.879
<v Speaker 1>So again, you know, we're still we're still working at

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the right right, you know, Another thing that I have

0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 1>thought we should do is that now that the machines

0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.359
<v Speaker 1>have invented time travel, we should actually do a next

0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>episode from the future so we can sort of deliver

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a special investigative report from seventy two or whenever we want.

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I in fact have a message from two right now. Yeah,

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought that would be a great way to kind

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of wrap up this entire discussion. So the report from

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>two definitively answers a question that has been of great

0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>import over the last several years on the internet. It

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:59.239
<v Speaker 1>turns out it's pronounced neither gif nor jiff, but bif. Oh. Now,

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this is weird because it brings us back to back

0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to back to the future, to part two, that episode

0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>we did a while back. We actually anticipated this, not knowingly,

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>it had been implanted into our brains from the future.

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.639
<v Speaker 1>And if you go back and listen to that episode,

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you will find the coded message about biff being the

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>proper pronunciation. It's right there in the episode. That's crazy. Yeah,

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We weren't even aware of it at the time.

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had time traveled this morning. I just

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.359
<v Speaker 1>had too much email to get through. Well, I mean,

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>in my case I had Simply all I did was

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.320
<v Speaker 1>put in a Google future search, so it just came

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 1>back to me. I haven't actually been to seventy two yet. Okay,

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>well hold on, I'm gonna go time travel real quick,

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.920
<v Speaker 1>just and then I'll come back and let you know

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to. Let's just try the year one sixty six.

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:58.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, that sounds interesting. Wow, that was amazing, Joe.

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You look different. Yeah. So in sixty six there are

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 1>only robots and super intelligent apes left, and I don't

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>look good with that much body hair. So I had

0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to join the robot legion fair enough. But you know,

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't really mind it, like I'm so shiny now.

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's pretty cool. Yeah, well, I mean

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's fantastic news for you, Joe. The other thing

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>now is that as a robot, I'm no longer driven

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.640
<v Speaker 1>by an insatiable lust for power and immortality the way

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I was as an organic human. More about something to

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you about that. The obsession you had with that ax

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was kind of you know, now I can I can

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>really focus on the things that matter, like gardening and

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like machine meditation, and I discovered a new love for

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>kite flying, have you ever actually flown a kite? I

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>mean not since I was a kid, but you know

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful. Well, I mean, that's that's excellent things to

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to know, Joe, thank you for taking that upon yourself.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I I think we all look forward to seeing sixty

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>six as soon as this episode is over. I also

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>think anyone who doesn't embrace the singularity this April is

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>being something of a fool. I would agree they are

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>being a fool in April and absolute April fool. Yes, indeed,

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and with that it is time for us to sign off. However,

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of course we're going to have plenty to talk about

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in the future, since it is arriving so very quickly now,

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So stay tuned for future episodes of forward Thinking, and

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of course if you have an idea for an episode,

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you should get in touch with us. Yeah, we are

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>backwards compatible, so you can still access some of those

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>those antiquated systems in case your uploads are are blocked

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 1>by all of the video games that I'm uploading. I

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>also have a lot of ad block software running in

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>my brain const at least, so sometimes it catches things

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that it shouldn't. So if you want to make sure

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you get a message to us, send it the legacy

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>way through email our addresses FW thinking at how Stuff

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Works dot com, or drop us a line on one

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of those social platforms we all were crazy about yesterday.

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Seems like an eternity ago. That would be Facebook, Twitter,

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and Google Plus. We are FW thinking at Twitter and

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus. Just search FW thinking and Facebook will pop

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>right up and we will talk to you again really soon.

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>For more on this topic in the future of technology,

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll visit forward thinking dot Com, brought to you by

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Toyota Let's Go Places,