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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with Leave.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long.

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Speaker 1: Wey, I'm just playing in lone wezy. Hey, I'm Nora,

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Speaker 1: and with me as always is Sarah Ode.

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Speaker 3: Hello and happy holidays everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is our holiday Ish episode.

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Speaker 3: I love this time of Year's miss Ish.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite, and.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have the perfect guest artist to

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Speaker 3: make us feel cozy and warm and all the holiday feels. Yes,

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Speaker 3: our guest today is the captivating singer, songwriter, multi instrumentalist Leave.

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Speaker 1: She is blown up out there. I am watching her

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Speaker 1: rise to start them and it is really fun to

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Speaker 1: watch because she is a doll. She's an incredible musician.

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun hanging out and playing music together.

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Speaker 3: She's our first Icelandic guest, that's true. She released her

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Speaker 3: debut album last year called Everything I Know About Love,

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Speaker 3: and just released her new album Bewitched a few months ago,

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Speaker 3: which I think Bewitched is a perfect album title for

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Speaker 3: her because her voice is very enchanting.

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Speaker 1: You were gonna say bewich, I was going to say

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Speaker 1: be wish enchanting. Yes, it's beautiful, It's like butter.

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Speaker 3: Actually, it really is and stay tuned for a little

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Speaker 3: holiday surprise if you're feeling jolly.

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Speaker 1: Yep, we do a little jingle jangle. We did a

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Speaker 1: couple Christmas songs together that we released as digital singles,

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Speaker 1: and so we might just do one of them at

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Speaker 1: the end. We had so much fun hanging and I

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Speaker 1: learned a lot from her. It's fun to learn stuff

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Speaker 1: from someone who's so much younger. It makes me happy

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Speaker 1: for our future.

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Speaker 4: Yes, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: She's very smart and cool.

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Speaker 1: She's smart, cool and really just beautiful musical. So we

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Speaker 1: had a great time. Thanks for listening to us for

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Speaker 1: and we're going to be back with some fresh, fresh episode.

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Speaker 1: So okay, did I say fresh too many times?

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Speaker 3: You kept it pretty fresh.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you all. Thank you so much for checking

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Speaker 1: us out and sticking with us. This has been a blast.

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Speaker 1: And there will be more to come, so stay tuned

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Speaker 1: and thanks and please enjoy this episode from Live.

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Speaker 4: This is one of my favorite on the album, is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty. I love it.

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Speaker 4: A single though, whatever it'll be. The thing is, I

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Speaker 4: love all of them so much. I feel like they

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Speaker 4: could all be singles, so I can't. It's really hard

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Speaker 4: to decide.

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Speaker 1: I think that that makes sense. They're your children, They're

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Speaker 1: like your little babies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I figure, you know, if the kids like it, they'll

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Speaker 1: Yeah, singles singles for the kind of music you make,

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Speaker 1: kind of music I make. It's confusing.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, none of this is going to pop radio,

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Speaker 4: so you can chill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the next one I have, The next single is

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Speaker 4: like with an orchestra, It's like perfect.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time there was an orchestral single?

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Speaker 4: Well, rarely for me, it's been one other time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the reason I wanted to be a single,

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Speaker 4: because I was like, well, if I can't decide which one,

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Speaker 4: I may as well make it with purpose, which is

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Speaker 4: like pushing a symphony orchestra on to me, like Friday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my label always surprises me by picking the song

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Speaker 1: I didn't think would be a single to do a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I like, in the beginning, I refuse

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Speaker 1: Her soul Really after you get in late tonight. Ooh,

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a new one.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, why not? I'm doing a little something new.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's how you keep it fresh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I did a music video for my last one.

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Speaker 4: I had to kiss a boy for the first time

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Speaker 4: on screen. Oh boy, how was that so scary? But

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Speaker 4: I did it. I remember before the scene, I like

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Speaker 4: I like looked at myself and I was like, you

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Speaker 4: and you're going to push through this. You spent way

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Speaker 4: too much money to not go through this, That's true.

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Speaker 4: So I pushed through because I'm a professional And was

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Speaker 4: he a professional actor?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was an actor, so he like walked me

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Speaker 1: It helps to know that the other person is yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: It helped so much, and we were all good friends

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Speaker 4: at the end of the shoot, which was which was good,

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Speaker 4: but I was it was definitely a new one for me,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: Now, dancing is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I try to dance thing once and it never came out,

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Speaker 1: I used to think I was a good dancer, but

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just a good like interpretive dancer. Yeah, question, yeah,

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Speaker 1: are you doing like a diminished thing?

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Speaker 1: I think you did both. Actually you switch it up.

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Speaker 6: One one stand. I don't want to codest sleep pale misty.

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Speaker 7: I'll allow myself to have just to light and I

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Speaker 7: quite like God.

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Speaker 6: I swear to myself as he.

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Speaker 8: This wild, until he haunts me again, rose fur fee.

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Speaker 9: Lodly, I'll pretend stay for.

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Speaker 6: They re.

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Speaker 10: Corus haunt the alwaisars hes me over.

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Speaker 6: And I long to every answers.

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Speaker 4: I know he don't love me.

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Speaker 10: Quite like God.

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Speaker 6: I swear to myself as he.

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Speaker 8: Really wooland until he haunts me again.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty.

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Speaker 4: I love that. It was so nice.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yay, yay.

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Speaker 1: So you've never done that live yet? No, because it's

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Speaker 1: on the new album that has yet to come out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I may have spilled it accidentally once at a

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask how that goes now, because

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was first coming out, I would

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Speaker 4: Be fans already knew the song, so it actually I

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Speaker 1: It helped. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm never sure how much I'm allowed to. I

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Speaker 4: no one's really screamed at me. I think it was

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Speaker 4: I think I've put so that a little bit early, right,

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Speaker 4: And he was like, yeah, maybe, but why Yeah? I

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Speaker 4: mean he was like, you know, you do whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: He was like, but what's the second I start telling

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Speaker 1: That's you know, that's true? Yeah, Well, I think you've

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't want to do it too early,

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Speaker 1: Oh gotcha. I was gonna say, what's the negative, because

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes if it's a little earlier, then people are

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Speaker 1: Thats like where's the song? Where's the song?

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Speaker 4: Which you know isn't a bad thing because it eventually.

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Speaker 1: I just remember doing a song from my second album

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Speaker 1: not just different versions, but like very different arrangements. But

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Speaker 4: Right, No, I completely get that. I mean, when I write,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I've I've been releasing like orchestral versions

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Speaker 4: some Like I think a couple of my songs have

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Speaker 4: like three or four versions out and it's like I

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Speaker 4: kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of you know, like

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Speaker 4: the all the old jazz musicians they had, like you know,

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Speaker 4: they're like five different versions of like dream a little

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Speaker 4: dream of Me, like in different cities or different or.

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Speaker 1: It takes three exactly album from the very yeah exactly.

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Speaker 4: Like No, when I talk about my favorite favorite Bill

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Speaker 4: Evans recordings, it's always such a joke. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but like take three right.

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Speaker 1: Take three right exactly, because all those old jazz records

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Speaker 4: I kind of like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't like it when you start hearing the

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Speaker 4: No, it's cool. It kind of tricks my brain into thinking, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, my jazz standard. I love it.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a kid that wrote it, like seventeen when

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Speaker 4: That's true. He used to visit all the very great places.

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Speaker 4: That is like, yeah, that is an old man song.

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Speaker 1: But it's yours. Yeah, it's your journal, it's your record

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Speaker 4: It's my EP is very much like my first time

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Speaker 1: I've written more songs on guitar for that reason, same reason.

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Speaker 1: Not that I'm fancy on piano, but you're pretty fancy

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Speaker 4: I've recheckted affection Free. Now I have it, and damn it,

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Speaker 6: He tells me. I'm pretty don't know how to respond.

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Speaker 14: I tell him.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty too, Can I say that don't have a

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Speaker 15: Oh my heart, God caught no romance with him.

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Speaker 6: Somehow, I still feel a shock through a bad when

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Speaker 9: How the hell did I I can't believe I get

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Speaker 6: I blinked and.

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Speaker 4: So so so lovely and dainty.

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Speaker 4: It's a cute one. This is definitely one of the songs.

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Speaker 4: I look back and I'm like, yep, I was definitely

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. So you're in the middle. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, you very.

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Speaker 1: Clearly think want to do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of like the whole reason I make music,

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Speaker 4: and I went to jazz you know, conservatory if you will,

448
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: for school, and to Berkeley. Yeah. So how all this

449
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: like formal education behind me for these styles of music

450
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: that kind of seem like they're only for those who

451
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: have the formal education.

452
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

453
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: And I love the music so much and I want

454
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: to make it kind of accessible to all. And I

455
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: think one of the reasons that people believe that these

456
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: genres of music are dying out a little bit is

457
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 4: because it's lost that air of relatability and accessibility, which

458
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, jazz music in the beginning was meant to

459
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 4: be that, you know, it was kind of breaking out

460
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: of classical forms. And I guess in a way of

461
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: triving to trying to save these styles of music, I've

462
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: gone out to make this kind of music and make

463
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: it accessible for all.

464
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: But I think that's great because I've heard of other

465
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: people doing that as well, but they are more of

466
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: a historical route.

467
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: Right.

468
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: You're writing original music, and you know, you're not trying

469
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: to do something old. You're just doing what you feel

470
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: in an original way. That's why it's being related to

471
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: so well, you.

472
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: Know what I mean. Cut Well, you know this generation

473
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: they don't really care what the music sounds like. Like

474
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 4: of course, they want good music, but they want just

475
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 4: somebody that they can look to. Like I. The way

476
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 4: I carry myself and the way I go about like

477
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: social media for example, and and like releasing and all

478
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: that is very pop music. Like the way that I

479
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: go about it is very much a pop like focused career,

480
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: which I wanted. But the second I open my mouth,

481
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: it's kind of like you know, it's like Valentine, It's

482
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 4: like songs that sound kind of old, but because they're

483
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: written about my current experiences, my modern experiences, I think

484
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: there's some sort of connection there that gets to the

485
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: new generation. And I think it's really neat. I really,

486
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: really really surprised that it's somehow worked out. You know, previously,

487
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: when I'd walk around and people would ask me like, oh, like,

488
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 4: you are honestly like one of the like kind of

489
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: my main examples for you know, somebody that could bring

490
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: music that was, you know, less traditional in that sense

491
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: and bring it to a wider audience. Like there were

492
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: such so few examples. It was really only you for

493
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: for a while that I had to look up to that.

494
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 4: So it's really cool to be sitting across right, Yeah, exactly.

495
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so such a different world now, it's

496
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: so different. You are, you're like a social media master

497
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: and you have to be there.

498
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 16: Yeah.

499
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean that's the way that I've managed to connect

500
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: to a young adeas because they're all on social media. Yes,

501
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 4: I also enjoy it.

502
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: But I think if you don't enjoy it, people can

503
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: tell and they won't connect to it as well much.

504
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm lucky. I enjoy it. You know, it's not

505
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: not not a given to to want to do it

506
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 4: along with doing music, Like they're kind of two separate

507
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: things that now the industry kind of requires you to

508
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: do both. Yeah, I mean it's lucky. I enjoy it.

509
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: I've talking to a bunch of friends lately, and there's

510
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: because it's not the artist's brain to be a self promotion.

511
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: You have to be your own.

512
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: You have to be like business. You are a.

513
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: Business woman, and that's what I find so fascinating that

514
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: you're so on top of it all, you know, at

515
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: a young age. I don't think I really knew my

516
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: way around stuff at that age. Well maybe by by

517
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: your age I had to. But I mean, did you

518
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: start out just as as a teenager watching TikTok or then?

519
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: No? No, I mean, like, so I was at Berkeley,

520
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: I was just a student there, and then I was

521
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: studying cello, and yeah, well we also got sent home

522
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: because of the pandemic. So I went home and I

523
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: had just a couple of weeks or so, I thought

524
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: of break because of COVID, and I just said to myself,

525
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna post little videos on myself online

526
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: playing jazz standards and songs that I've written that sound

527
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: like jazz songs, and and just kind of that was

528
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: my challenge to, you know, try to write as much

529
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: as possible and post as much as possible. And I

530
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: actually didn't even have TikTok at that point. I remember

531
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: my sister came. I have a twin sister. Yeah, she

532
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: and her friends had been watching TikTok and she went

533
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: to university in Scotland, and my sister was like, you know,

534
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: you should get on TikTok, like there are a lot

535
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: of singers on here. And I remember rolling my eyes

536
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: and feeling like this is so stupid, like this is

537
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: not for me at all, Like I'm never going to

538
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: like get into that. This is for children, you know.

539
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: And then of course, like everyone else, I kind of

540
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: got sucked in, and I think I posted one video

541
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: of myself singing I Wish you love and I'm like

542
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: accompanying on cello. Yeah, and it just kind of immediately

543
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: caught into the algorithm or something, and all of a sudden,

544
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: I had all these young people commenting on it, being

545
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: like oh my god, like this sounds like something out

546
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: of a movie or reminds me of my grandparents or something.

547
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: And it was really then that it kind of clicked

548
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: in my that my generation had a hunger and understanding

549
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: of this kind of music. It just hadn't been presented

550
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: to them yet. So I kind of, you know, after

551
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: that video, kind of jumped on the train and kept

552
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: on doing that. And it was kind of a perfect

553
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: storm of events. I had my first song set to

554
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: release the third week of the pandemic just it was

555
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: just for fun, like I literally uploaded it onto like

556
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: tune core or whatever myself, and yeah, it's all just

557
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: snowballed from there. It was all just a really lucky,

558
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: lucky kind of string of events. But social media is

559
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: definitely the reason that, you know, I'm not sitting in

560
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: my bedroom in Iceland and yeah, and got to move

561
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: to La so I have you know, as much as

562
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: you know artists are inclined to hate on social media,

563
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: I'm very thankful for where it's it's brought me, and

564
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: it's given me a lot of control and leverage kind

565
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: of as an artist myself to run my own business

566
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: exactly the way I want to and also release, yeah,

567
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: and release exactly the kind of music I want to

568
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 4: like nobody's ever Like when I wanted to release Valentine,

569
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: you know, not a single person was like, hey, you know,

570
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if gen Z is gonna like a

571
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: jazz song, Like yeah, you know, nobody ever thought that

572
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: because I had already posted it on TikTok and it

573
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 4: had already you know, shown shown that it was there,

574
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: that there was interest there.

575
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty cool you can take control like that,

576
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: and once you're in the machine and people are excited,

577
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: it's just connection with other people.

578
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is is It is this like direct line

579
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: of communication that I have with my audience, and and

580
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: that helps me so much as an artist to know

581
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: what they want. Like obviously I make music for myself

582
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: first and foremost, but I also have you know, an

583
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: audience and and I listen to them, and it's really

584
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: neat to have that direct line of communication. And it's

585
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: so fun to like respond to fans and like respond

586
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: to d ms and they're never expecting it. So yeah,

587
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: they excited, get so excited. I still remember, like, yeah,

588
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: I was only about three years ago I post. I

589
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: remember I posted a video of myself like from a

590
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: practice room at Berkeley singing down by Emily King and

591
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: like playing along, and she commented on the video or

592
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: shared it or something, and I remember I had to

593
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: like take myself out of class, like I had to

594
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: see myself out because I was like so nervous and

595
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: so excited, and I like remember it like standing in

596
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: the hallway hyperventilating because I was so excited that like

597
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: Emily King had commented on my video and it encouraged

598
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: me so much to like continue. And I now have

599
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: that power, which is the coolest thing in the world. So,

600
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, whenever I see a cover or of one

601
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: of my songs that a fan has made or you know,

602
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: a nice DM and I just if I have a moment,

603
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: I respond because maybe one day I won't be able to,

604
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: but until that day, I'm going to engage as much

605
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: as I can.

606
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: And because you remember how that felt.

607
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I remember so well. There's like a cup

608
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: of artists who who are now my friends, even that

609
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: I like did covers of their songs and I was

610
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: like freaking out. It's like so sweet, that's so cool,

611
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: Like I can in one second like make someone's week.

612
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: It's crazy, right, Yeah, it's so crazy.

613
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

614
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: So I mean I'm sure you you feel that power too,

615
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: Like when people come to you and and you know,

616
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: tell you how much your music has meant to them

617
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: or what they've done. It's it's wild how how that happens.

618
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: I could learn a lot from you on social media,

619
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: running your own show, being such a good business person. Also,

620
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: you're on a label, but it's kind of self run.

621
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 11: Is that?

622
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: What's the label? Your?

623
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: Oh, my label is called a Wall And they're really

624
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: really great and and have been so supportive and they

625
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: support all my projects and and they kind of let

626
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: me release whatever music I want and I have like

627
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: full creative control and and yeah, it seems it's like

628
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: a really really like best case scenario. It's like all

629
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: these things that at least at Berkeley, you know, people

630
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: are always talking about how like if you're with a label,

631
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: like you don't get to make your own decisions and

632
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And my experience has been entirely the opposite.

633
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: But are they a typical label or there?

634
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say so, there's not really anything

635
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: they do that other labels don't do.

636
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: But there are they a major label?

637
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: They they're no, I don't They're not considered a major label,

638
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: but I believe they're under Sony now.

639
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha, gotcha, but a great Yeah.

640
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: I own my master's and own my publishing, and it's

641
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: it's cool we have it.

642
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what that meant when you know

643
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: what I mean.

644
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well, I mean there's so much transparency in

645
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: social media now, and like obviously with Taylor Swift, you know,

646
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: speaking so much about it and and re recording all

647
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: of our all of our older albums. It's like it's

648
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: very kind of a its forefront of a lot of

649
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: young artists' minds now.

650
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been empowering because it educates you all

651
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: as to what the business is behind the scenes of business.

652
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

653
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I remember when I signed my record deal. It was

654
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: not for a ton of money, and we did fourteen

655
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: songs for the first album, and I had a publishing

656
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: deal like in the Works, but I only wrote two

657
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: and a half songs on my first album. It was

658
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: a few covers and a lot of songs from my

659
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: band members. At the time, I was a new songwriter.

660
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: But we get closed, we start pressing the records, and

661
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: it comes out that I didn't understand any of this

662
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: at the time until after the fact. The label only

663
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: pays seventy five percent of the publishing per song, so

664
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: you have to get every publisher to agree to that.

665
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: But of course it's favored nations, which I didn't know

666
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: anything about, and so if one person doesn't agree, then

667
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: nobody agrees to it.

668
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: Wow.

669
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: And also the label only paid for eleven songs on

670
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: an album, so here I had fourteen years out of

671
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: pocket for three I was going to be way out

672
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: of pocket for three songs plus the extra twenty five

673
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: percent of each song, if that makes sense A quick

674
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: mass yeah right, no, yeah, but it was too late

675
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: to go back because everything had been pressed and finalized.

676
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: Wow.

677
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: So this all kind of came out at the end,

678
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: right before the album came out, and I panicked a

679
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: little and I didn't under and then for so now

680
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. Ever since then, I was very you know,

681
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I learned my lesson is what I'm saying. But it's

682
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: just little things like that that you don't think about.

683
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I've had my own version of that too,

684
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, like you kind of don't. It is odd,

685
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: you know, in the beginning, especially for young artists, like

686
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: you really don't know anything about the music industry and

687
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: it is so so so confusing, Like I'm still learning

688
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: so much every single day. I always tell people, like

689
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 4: I get I got my master's degree in music business

690
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: from my manager because he's like still to this day,

691
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: like teaching me everything, like there is to know, and

692
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: there's so much to know. But like like my first

693
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: my first few songs, I had no clue about any

694
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: of that stuff, and I was just lucky that I

695
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: had my manager swoop in and kind of like help

696
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: me take care of it.

697
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: But that's good. Interesting, Yeah, you need people to help

698
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: help you through it, but also it's great to know

699
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: that you're wise to most of the stuff.

700
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: I'm like very careful.

701
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 7: Well.

702
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: I remember, like at Berkeley, like in music business classes

703
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: that we would take, Like my my main takeaway was like,

704
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: don't like be careful before you sign anything. Yeah, make

705
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: sure you have a lawyer and whatever. So like I remember,

706
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: you know, when I first started getting phone calls and

707
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: emails from labels and managers and stuff like that, I

708
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: was like, okay, slow down. I took all the meetings,

709
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: but I refused to sign anything until I had like

710
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: a manager and a lawyer. It's good, So it was

711
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: like this, it was this puzzle piece. I remember the

712
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: first few months of doing I was very confused because

713
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: I really needed help, but I also wanted to make

714
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: sure it was the right people helping me. So that's good.

715
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: I kind of walked around blindly for a bit, but

716
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: it was all worth it.

717
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: That's great. Would you ever consider signing it a big

718
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: deal and losing control of your masters? Is that something

719
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: that's crossed your mind?

720
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: I think it would have to be for a lot

721
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: of money. Yeah, a lot of money. I think hopefully

722
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: I'm in the position now where like, I don't think

723
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: anybody would be, you know, crossing me and telling me

724
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: what to do and what not to do. I think

725
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: I think people realize that I'm very strong minded and

726
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: know what I want musically. Yeah, but yeah, i'd have

727
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: to for a lot of money to give up my master.

728
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a quick decision.

729
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be a quick decision. No, it would be

730
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: a group decision too.

731
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I love that everybody knows what that means now. Yeah,

732
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: because of Taylor's.

733
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I know it's funny.

734
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: She's not the only one, but like it's pretty pretty good.

735
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: It's good it's it's brought on so much transparency in

736
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 4: the music industry, and and you know, kids are walking

737
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: a little less blind into these like big scary meetings.

738
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well good, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad you're smart.

739
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: It's it's I have a good team. I will say.

740
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: After I released this song, somebody commented it's so.

741
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Really yeah, that's funny. I actually don't think so. I

742
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: think it's so you.

743
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: I just remember that it's so nice.

744
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: It's a nice piano, right. Yeah, I'm glad you're going

745
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, I know.

746
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: I'm really dancing around all the instruments now.

747
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: I'm excited you're going to play.

748
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: So excited to have the world on it. That's such

749
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: a good call.

750
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: Cool. Did you study classical piano and also so cello

751
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: and piano classical growing up? Intensely, very intensely. Your mother's

752
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: a violinist.

753
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: She's a violinist. Yeah. My grandparents were also a violinist

754
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: and a pianist.

755
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And your sister is a violinist.

756
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: She's a violinist. Yeah, she plays on a lot of

757
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: my recordings.

758
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: That's cool. Anyone else musical, No, just yeah, where did

759
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: the jazz came.

760
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: Well, my dad really liked jazz. Okay, yeah, so he

761
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: played he played a lot of jazz music. And I

762
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: think for me, like when I started singing, I always

763
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 4: had kind of like a dark, like low deep voice,

764
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: and I could kind of resonate with like Ella Fitzgerald

765
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: and like, of course my voice is not nearly like theirs,

766
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: but kind of had that darker quality to them, and

767
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: the recordings with like the big string ensembles and stuff,

768
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: I could kind of relate to that, Like it kind

769
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: of felt like a middle world between like classical music

770
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: and something new, something newer. So I kind of that's

771
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: how I fell in love with jazz, and that was

772
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: the only music I really saying, Like.

773
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: There's never saying classical.

774
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: No, you know, I don't love classical singing that much.

775
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm exposing myself. I might come around.

776
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I might love Maria Kallis.

777
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: Okay, there's one recording on Maria Kellis singing Samson and Delilah.

778
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: It's like one of the most beautiful songs in the world.

779
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: She had a lot of heart.

780
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah that I will say.

781
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Cool. I love this song. This is this is a

782
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: deep song.

783
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: I mean it's it is a deep song.

784
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about Valentine and being young

785
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: and all the relatable first this one feels old.

786
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 4: I've definitely matured a bit. Yeah, my songwriting and experiences

787
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: have matured a bit.

788
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: I love this one. I'm glad we're gonna do.

789
00:41:40,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 16: It to distances.

790
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: My soul.

791
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 6: Took a flame.

792
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: Through scot Honestly, I didn't think about how we didn't

793
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: say by just.

794
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: Very It hurts to be something.

795
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 4: It's worse to be in.

796
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 14: A flame with you.

797
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 6: So I didn't call you.

798
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: For sixteen long day. I should get cigarette.

799
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 17: For so much restrain, No man, how long risis tamptation.

800
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: With love. It hurts to be something. It's words to

801
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: be nothing with you.

802
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 14: I've done the math.

803
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: There's no solution, will never left.

804
00:43:47,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: Why can't let go? So I brought my promise. I

805
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: called you last life. Shouldn't have.

806
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 18: I wouldn't have if it weren't for the side of

807
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 18: a boy who just like you standy.

808
00:44:53,760 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: New her, Sibby something or siby nothing. Wrasy it?

809
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 16: Where you.

810
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Sorry?

811
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: I love that.

812
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm like I know that, of course, where is it?

813
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 6: It is?

814
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: Sorry? I threw that in there. I loved it a little,

815
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 4: a little tension for the kids.

816
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: That was beautiful.

817
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 4: Thank you.

818
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: That sounded okay. I couldn't tell, but no, I loved it.

819
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 4: I thought it was great. The world sounds so beautiful

820
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: on it.

821
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 14: Good.

822
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: I love that song. It's so intense, very very intense.

823
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 11: Yeah.

824
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: And also the tension we were talking about, like the

825
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: push and pull of the tempo stuff.

826
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: I love that.

827
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fun one. It's a really good one

828
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: to do live.

829
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 11: Yeah.

830
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: I bet it's probably my favorite one to sing live

831
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: right now.

832
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Really.

833
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well it's new enough.

834
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's new, but it's been out a couple

835
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: of months now maybe, or it's.

836
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: Been a month a month. Yeah. Well, by the time

837
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: this is out, I guess it will help in a

838
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: couple maybe I'll be tired by then.

839
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. It's the people in your audience.

840
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: They're mostly younger.

841
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

842
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: Do they sing?

843
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: Oh, they sing yeah, constantly? Yeah, pretty much. Well, I

844
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 4: find when the audience is sitting down, they're a little

845
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: more reserved. If there's adding, they're singing the entire side. Really.

846
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.

847
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's cute, and they harmonize a lot as well.

848
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Really, I was gonna ask that do they do the harmonies?

849
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do, and and I hear it the most

850
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: clear for like the last note. I'll like sometimes end

851
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: and I'll like, you know and like on a sea,

852
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: and I'll hear like it's like a choir. Yeah, singing kids,

853
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: A bunch of singing kids. Yeah, big with the orchestra kids,

854
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 4: that's great. Chore kids. Yeah, we're all the we're all community,

855
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: the choir kids.

856
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: I was a choir kids.

857
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it's it's really it's cool. I

858
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: never thought i'd be hearing, you know, a room of

859
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: you know, a thousand young people singing along to like jazz. Yeah, yeah,

860
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: I know.

861
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: It's great.

862
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: It's fun.

863
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: That sounds really fun.

864
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: Do you ever get tired of singing certain songs?

865
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't usually because when I when I launched in

866
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: to come away with me, or don't know why, the

867
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: audience gets happy. There's like a oh.

868
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always wondered, you know, because you know, you

869
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: you have these songs that are just like like everybody

870
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: knows them, so I'm sure you have to perform it

871
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 4: every single time.

872
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to do those every time, right,

873
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I feel like.

874
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: The rest that there's but you don't get tired of it.

875
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: I don't get tired of those songs. And I think

876
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: it's just because the thank you, I mean, I think

877
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: don't know why it is a great song. My friend

878
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Jesse Harris wrote it. I think there was a time

879
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: where I got tired. I'll get tired of like an arrangement,

880
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: and I switch things up, not just for the sake

881
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: of switching it up, but I feel like songs evolve

882
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: and grow and change as you play them, and so

883
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: hopefully the audience doesn't mind that it's a little different

884
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: from the record, you know, Yeah, oh yeah.

885
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: Of course, I think, at least for me. Like when

886
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: I go to a concert and I hear I always say,

887
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: you go to a concert, you don't want to hear

888
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: a recording. Yeah, Like, there's so much beauty in a

889
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 4: the imperfection, not that there's any imperfection on your plenty,

890
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: but there's so much beauty in that, you know, slight

891
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 4: human error, like that's what you come to a concert

892
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: to see exactly, and then also difference in arrangement, Like

893
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: I think some of my most magical memories from concerts

894
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: was like when I'd go to like a pop concert

895
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 4: as a kid, and like they just sing and play

896
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: guitar on a song. Oh yeah, and hear like a

897
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: special stripped down version. Yeah, and that's always been my favorite.

898
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: Or like if you hear a version with like a

899
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: super upbeat version of like a song that's like kind

900
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: of a ballad, like it always takes you by surprise, yea,

901
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 4: and that feels special because that feels like you only

902
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: got that.

903
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 16: You know.

904
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I think I think people have different opinions,

905
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: but that's how I feel. I think some people really

906
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: just want to hear certain arrangements. But I think as

907
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: long as you're not doing it just to the sake

908
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: of messing with it, right, I think it has to

909
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: be again, it carries over. If it's heartfelt and you

910
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: mean it and it evolves into something that you're excited about,

911
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: then a different arrangement is is awesome?

912
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, hm hm hm.

913
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 14: M m.

914
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: That was the first video ever person online.

915
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 16: What is it?

916
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 4: I did?

917
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 6: Has your heart from side? Lock your dreams at night?

918
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 6: It could happen to oh to count Stars.

919
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 11: Or you right stone board, some one drops aside and

920
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 11: down You dono.

921
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 4: Keep an eye on spring run when church builds aery.

922
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 6: It could happen to.

923
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: Love.

924
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 6: Oh did was one the your arms would be?

925
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: And it happened to me.

926
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 6: Geeve your eye on spring.

927
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: Roum wind Church Bill rees, it could happened.

928
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 16: Oh that.

929
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 6: Was your arms would be, and it happened to me.

930
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: That's such a cute one. I actually did a recording

931
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: of that for my album. I don't know if it's

932
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: going to come out, but we did kind of like

933
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: a like a like a wedding belt kind of thing.

934
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: That's sweet.

935
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'll put it out.

936
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: I like that out there.

937
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: You put everything out?

938
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: Or do you have everything out?

939
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: You don't hold on to stuff. I don't think it's

940
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: not anything you like to just do the app play right?

941
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah I have. There's one song I've recorded that I

942
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 4: haven't put out, but every every other one. I recorded

943
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: fourteen for the album, and fourteen are coming out. I

944
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: stop a song before it even goes into recording if

945
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: I don't like it. Okay, if I don't like a song,

946
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 4: I don't finish writing it. And if I don't like

947
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: a song when it's finished, I definitely don't record it.

948
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: Really yeah, but then I get so excited when I'm

949
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: recording it and it turns into my baby, and I'm like,

950
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: there's no use holding on to it. Even with like

951
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: my last album, which was my first album, Like I

952
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: found the songs that I don't necessarily love that much

953
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: anymore are like some of my found's favorite songs.

954
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: That's a weird thing. I feel like that I always

955
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: respond to stuff that maybe isn't my favorite.

956
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so so music is so subjective, so you

957
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: may as well just put it out.

958
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. That's true. Also, I think in today's

959
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: world it's like more is better, more is better. When

960
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: I was younger, I think it was better to be

961
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: selective and rit not overdo it.

962
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think. Yeah, back in the day, they're

963
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: just like row out, like tons of recordings and different

964
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 4: versions of recordings. And then we went into like a

965
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 4: time where it was like very protective and selective about

966
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: which ones go out because you know, it took so

967
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: much to send a record out. You know. Now it's

968
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: like you upload it online.

969
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: And it's done.

970
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: It's like putting it. It's like almost like posting an

971
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 4: Instagram post. It's like that easy.

972
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And then the algorithms you kind of want

973
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: to stay in it for streaming.

974
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 4: Right exactly. Yeah, Well, you just there's so much content

975
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: and so many people because it's so easy to you know,

976
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: release music and post. So I guess to stay relevant

977
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: and stay remembered, you need to kind of keep up.

978
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: I tell you, well, until you become like an icon

979
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: like you, then you can do no.

980
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's the same with me. I think I

981
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: think I'm being encouraged to do stuff more frequently. Yeah,

982
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: that same reason, and I get it.

983
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, as long as as long as

984
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: it's what you like, desire exactly. Yeah, I think it's

985
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: releasing music is something you don't want to. I can't

986
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: be forced people.

987
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: People won't won't care about it.

988
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: Especially the kind of music you make and I make.

989
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: I think you know it's not come out of some machine.

990
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for us to fake it. Yeah

991
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: we're singing.

992
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 4: Everyone will like if you look like a little dead

993
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 4: in your eye, like in a recording, people will comment like, like,

994
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 4: you look a bit tired today, And I'm like, you're right,

995
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: I didn't really want.

996
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: To record that exactly, or I just won't even finish it.

997
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: I just won't sing exactly exactly exactly.

998
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 11: Yeah.

999
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: I did a recording with Wayne Shorter oh wow, maybe

1000
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: six or seven years ago, and we were all live

1001
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: in the room and with a band with bass and

1002
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: drums and singing playing the intro. I finished two verses

1003
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, he's not into it.

1004
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: He's not playing, you know. And then all of a sudden,

1005
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: it was just listening. Wow, you know, and then he

1006
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: played the beautiful something I've ever heard in my life.

1007
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: But it was just so interesting to me. He wasn't

1008
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: going to just like play under the verse for the

1009
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: sake of doing it, and it was a really good

1010
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: lesson and just like heartfelt. I feel like, I'm I

1011
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: try to do that anyway, but it was a reinforcing

1012
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: of it.

1013
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 4: Wow.

1014
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool.

1015
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 4: That's an incredible story. You must have the most incredible

1016
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 4: stories locked.

1017
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 11: Up in you.

1018
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: I have some good ones. I have some funny ones too. Yeah, yeah, off, mic, off, mic.

1019
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. I'm definitely collecting some funny ones.

1020
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: Of my own. Good. I hope, I hope you enjoy

1021
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying yourself.

1022
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will.

1023
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 4: I'll burn my journals. I'll have my sister burn them

1024
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: when I die.

1025
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: But are you enjoying yourself and all this? Because I

1026
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: remember this time, and I remember I had a lot

1027
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: of stressful things going on at the time. But I

1028
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying it.

1029
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: I really am. I feel like so fortunate and I

1030
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 4: have such a good support system, so it's i've I'm

1031
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: enjoying it.

1032
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 7: I think.

1033
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: I think I will never be in a more exciting

1034
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: time in my career than this, like whether it continues

1035
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: to grow or if it flat lines. Like every day

1036
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: something new and exciting happens, and it's new, you know,

1037
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: it's it's a first time feeling for everything, and I

1038
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: feel so thankful for everything. So I hope I can

1039
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: hold on to that kind of excitement. I hope so too.

1040
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Looking back, I think the one thing I wish is

1041
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: that I could have just relaxed a little and enjoyed

1042
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: it more. Yeah, but I get this. I feel like

1043
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: you are. My sense of you is that you seem

1044
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: genuinely tickled by all that.

1045
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, amused by it.

1046
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing, Yeah, it truly is. It's it's a

1047
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of things, but it's definitely amasing.

1048
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, exactly.

1049
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, so We recorded this Christmas song together yesterday, which

1050
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: was fun.

1051
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: It was very fun.

1052
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to try it? Yeah?

1053
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: I do.

1054
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: I just can't get over how cool it is when

1055
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: you play.

1056
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: Rig It's fine, It's really cool. It's it's definitely you

1057
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: know something I found Some of the first videos I

1058
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: posted online were like playing guitar and singing, and I

1059
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: realized it seemed just to be such a rare thing

1060
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: that people were fascinated by it.

1061
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: It's find it's fun.

1062
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of, it's like somehow a cross between bass

1063
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: and guitar. It's somewhere in the middle, and it has

1064
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 4: that body. It's Yeah, it's a very versatile instrument. It's

1065
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: my favorite instrument.

1066
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: Do you always play everything on tour? Like, do you

1067
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: you dabble? You'll play piano, cello.

1068
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like I'll usually sit in kind of like

1069
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: a triangle formation, and I'll like I would say, I

1070
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 4: split pretty evenly between piano and guitar. Well, it depends

1071
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: if I have a grand piano, then I'm more on

1072
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: piano because.

1073
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: You're enjoying it because you do ever you do like

1074
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: use a keyboard ever?

1075
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Or is any Yeah, I mean on it's like my

1076
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: one off shows, like shows that I'm playing solo, I'll

1077
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: like usually have a grand piano, and like the shows

1078
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: in Asia that I just did in Australia, I had

1079
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: a grand piano. But on my tour, you know, when

1080
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: we're like traveling with everything, it's it's a keyboard and

1081
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: a shell.

1082
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Now what do you use because I'm curious about that.

1083
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: The keyboard It's a Nord Okay, yeah, I've used.

1084
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: I've used.

1085
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 4: It's a Nord something. It has eighty eight keys and

1086
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: it's weighted. That's all I asked.

1087
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: I used one of those ones. Yeahh they couldn't get

1088
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: a piano into this place.

1089
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 4: And right, well, pianos are so tricky, you know, they're

1090
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: so tricky.

1091
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: I just did a tour with the piano and the

1092
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: heat and it just it really went out a lot.

1093
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but it's so worth it.

1094
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 6: It is.

1095
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it for twenty years, but I'm

1096
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: starting to question certain things. I think it's also fun

1097
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: to try different things. I used to tour with an upright,

1098
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: which I really wow because I had more intimate, like

1099
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: more closeness with my band that way, right, yeah, other way?

1100
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: How do you situate the piano.

1101
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: So that that's what's always the audience. Yeah, there's always

1102
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: somebody with my back to the audience.

1103
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: And that's I did that the other day, and I

1104
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 4: felt like I was away from the audience.

1105
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel bad about it, but there's

1106
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: nothing you can do.

1107
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm still seeing you. Yeah, your backside.

1108
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: They can see my hands. Not the worst.

1109
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly see your hands and see what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's try the slag Yay.

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Speaker 2: All right, have yourself, Ah, marry little Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Letting your heart belive.

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Speaker 6: Next year are a lot of troubles.

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Speaker 1: We'll be out of side.

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Speaker 4: Have your shoe for Mary Christmas. Make the targets. Next

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Speaker 4: year all.

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Speaker 14: The large travels will be miles away.

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Speaker 15: He as in older lace, happy golden days, faithful friends.

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Speaker 6: Who are to last, Gavin hear to twe Sunday.

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Speaker 19: Soon we all be together, if the faith allows unto.

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Speaker 19: Then we'll have to model through show so had shows

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Speaker 19: a merry little Christian.

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Speaker 14: We are as in olden days, happy golden.

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Speaker 4: Of your.

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Speaker 1: Flame for friends who had to.

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Speaker 6: Gather near to us one small some Ly, soon we

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Speaker 6: all pa together. If the fates a.

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Speaker 4: And then we'll have to model.

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Speaker 14: Through somehow, so have a very little Christmas.

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Speaker 4: So jolly. That was great. Santa will be happy with

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Speaker 4: that one.

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Speaker 1: I think he would dig it. Yeah, thanks for doing this,

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Speaker 1: of course, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, such a dream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really really fun. I hope we get

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Speaker 1: to play more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my god, we too.

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Speaker 1: All right, have a good trip.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Ah, that was so fun.

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: Her sound is so refreshing. It's really unique, and the

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Speaker 3: honesty in her lyrics makes her song so special.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it in the episode, but I really

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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: do love the angle she's coming from because she's such

1145
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: a great jazz musician, but she's trying to make original

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: music instead of just singing old standards, which is sort

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: of the struggle I had coming out and playing jazz,

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: because you love those old songs, but at a certain

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: point you want to do something new. Of course, you

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01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: want to sort of be yourself. So I love how

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Speaker 1: she's made it work.

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01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like the lyrics that she relates

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: to and not just you know, telling someone else's story.

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it, and I love her sweet fans.

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: They love her so much. It's so sweet to see.

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you didn't know about her. Check out the

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01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: rest of her music. Get to know her. You won't

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: be sorry. Her sound is truly her own. Try to

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: see her live if you can. She's got some tour

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Speaker 3: dates coming up. And Happy holidays. Everyone from the Norah

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Speaker 3: Jones is playing a long crew.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Happy holidays to you, wishing you well this season.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're cozy. Thanks for listening, and we love you,

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: We love you. If you want to know what songs

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: we did today, we did it. I've a original song

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: called Haunted from her album Bewitched twenty twenty three. We

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: did Valentine from Everything I Know About Love from twenty

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: twenty two. We did Promise from Bewitched, and we did

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas, which is a song

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: from the nineteen forties written by Hugh Martin and Ralph Blaine,

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: and it was introduced by Judy Garland in the musical

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01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: Meet Me in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 4: I love that version.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode was recorded at Clubhouse in ryan Beck, New York.

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Speaker 1: Recorded by Pete Hanlon, assisted by Gillian Pelconan, mixed by

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01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: Jamie Landry, edited by Sarah Oda. Additional editing and mixing

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01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: by Matthew Vesquez. Additional engineering Matt Marinelli. Artwork by Eliza Frye,

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: Photography by Shervin Linez. Coordinating producer Rachel Ward. Produced by

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Speaker 1: Nora Jones and Sarah Oda.

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: Hey that's me me and you That's me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Happy holidays,