1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The game is over, New York, Jeff the world. You 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: play to win the game. He's got a Jet tousdown. 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. What's up, everybody in the Official 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Jet Podcast? Back in studio? Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, we're 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: always in studio. Were new director's chairs? Yeah, we got 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: an upgrade into studio. Yeah, did you know that? Because 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: you got a black fest on and black pants today 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and we have black cushions on the chairs. That is 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: not a coincidence. Okay, I'm just kidding it in quick 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: all right, Jets Bears this Sunday we gate the midway 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: point of the NFL regular season, are just about fair. 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: We spoke to Jeff Dickerson of ESPN. He covers the 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Bears for ESPN Chicago. I guess it would be that's correct. Well, 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: just like which some men, he is ESPN New York, 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: he's ESPN New York, or he's ESPN New York dot com. 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Now I don't know what there's some technicality, Well we 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: better figure that out. Whatever. Just been covering the team 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: for a long time, Always great to talk with. He 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: was on the podcast. Last year, he was not on 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. We we almost had him for the mock 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: draft back in April, but we we had to we 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: had to call an audible there because he was busy 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: in Bristol actually at ESPN. So it's finally nice to 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: have Jeff aud He had some good insight about the 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: status of Khalil Mack, who was a little bit banged 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: up with an ankle. He's big time banged up. I 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: would say, we don't know, we're not inside the trainer's room, 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: but he played on it. It's not like he's been out. Yeah, 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: there's but there's a lot of guys out there played 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: every Sunday or hobbled a little bit, just like I 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: would say Isaiah krol elsbund battling that foot ankle issue, 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: and it's probably impacted them a little bit. I would 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: definitely agree with that, especially when you look at mac stats. 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: He had a sack in his first four games, and 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: then he's telling and that hasn't had in the past 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: two Well, what I thought was fascinating last weekend. I 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't see the game, but I did read Jeff Dickerson, 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: and I did read a lot of people in Chicago 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,559 Speaker 1: is they deployed Mac and Leonard Floyd in coverage situations 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot against Tom Brady. Now you're damn if you do. 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: You're damned if you don't against the Patriots, and they're 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: very unique offense. But I don't know if you got 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: a thoroughbred and let him run man. Yeah, that seems 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: a little interesting to me too. Caught me by surprise, 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: because if you have someone that's debatedly the best pass 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: rusher in the NFL, you would want him to rush 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: the passer. Yeah, so we're gonna have to monitor his injury. 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Stead it's throughout the week, but you know, the Jets 50 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: hit the midway point. What do you think about the 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Green and White three seven games right now? I think 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: that similar to last season, some up, some down, but 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: I would say that overall things are a little bit 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: better and last year that I think there's a little 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: bit of a different vibe that made That could be 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: mainly because of the fact that the Jets have their 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: quarterback of the future and Sam Donald, and coming into 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the season, everyone said with a rookie QB, you're gonna 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: ride your eyes, You're gonna ride your lows. They're both 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: gonna exist last week against the Viking was a rather 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: low point the week before against the Colts, or rather 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: high point. Jabal Adams talked about this time last year. 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: The Jets were three and three last year, then went 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: to three and four and then went to three and five, 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how he doesn't want to 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: let that happen again and that this team is a 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: little feel a little bit different. This team is a 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: great team. We have three man roster full of a 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: lot of talent. Let's just put it like that. And 70 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: there's there's no we're waiting for for next year rebuild. 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: There's there's none of it. Um. At the end of 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: the day, I think this team right here, can can 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, be special? A calendar year later, here we 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: are and the Jets are the same exact record as 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: they did a year ago. The roster is completely different. 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: You're not playing with the thirty eight thirty nine year 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: old quarterback in Josh McCown. This year has a different 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: field because you do have a twenty one year old 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: signal caller who's leading the show now and not only now, 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: but the foreseeable future and it could be for a 81 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: decade to come. That's what you hope. So are you 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: agree with me and that you feel like things are 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: better than may were last year? Well, I think we're 84 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: gonna find out, right. I don't think you can say it. 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I think the belief is there within the locker room. 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: And you certainly mentioned what Jamal Adams said. Jermaine Curse, 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: who had nine receptions against the Colts but had zero 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: receptions against the Vikings, he said, what are you gonna 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: do when adversity strikes? And we say we are a 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: gritty team, Well, we have to be a gritty team. 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: And the Jets over the last a year and a 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: half or so have struggled on the road. We know 93 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: that they opened up the season with the win over 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, but uh, it would be really something 95 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to go to Chicago, who is and I think a 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: very similar outfit to the Jets, not in terms of personnel, 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: but where they are in terms of their built They 98 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: have a young quarterback that they're trying to get to 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the next level. They've added some pieces around him. Defensively, 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: They've been stout at times this year, and they traded 101 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: for a superstar in Khalil mac But the Jets could 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: catch a break this week with Mac being less than 103 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: all right, I have a good question for you after 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: we roll into Jeff Dickerson interview. So without further ado, 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: here's our chat with Jeff Dickerson. I think it's time 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: to go out to the Windy City to speak to 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Dickerson of ESPN. Jeff, thanks so much for coming 108 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: on the Official Jets podcast. Oh guys, it's my pleasure. 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Great to be with you. We almost had you on 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: for the mock draft, but times in the ligne, so 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: now we get you on during the season. So let's 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: talk a little Jets Bears this Sunday, of course, is 113 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: the Bears are very I think are very interesting team 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: so far throughout the regular season. And obviously the big 115 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: splash move here is Khalil Mack in the beginning of 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the year. And you see the stats, and you know, 117 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you watch the primetime games and you see Khalil Mac 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: really be in a force. But what really has Khalil 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Mac meant to the Chicago Bears defense. Oh, I would 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: say everything, And I think you can look at when 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: he first injured his ankle against Miami two games ago 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. The Bears defense really hasn't been 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: the same since that point. Uh. He is the heart 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: and stall of that defense because he is such an 125 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: impact player. I mean, he cannot only treasure the quarterback, 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: but he can play the run. I saw him have 127 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: a pick six in that first game against Green Bay. 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: He's just a tremendous player who I still cannot believe 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders traded away to the Bears, but I guess 130 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: that is what it is. But the problem with clil Mac, though, guys, is, 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, the ankle was not right against the Patriots 132 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: last Sunday. He was only credited with one tackle in 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: that game. He spent most of that game dropping back 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: in the past coverage, which we found so strange and 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: so bizarre. Um, the Bears haven't really given much indication 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: as to what his status is gonna be this weekend. 137 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: But you can rush assured that if that ankle is 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: hurting him and bothering him the same way against the 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Jet that it did against the Patriots, even though it's 140 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, not Tom Brady back there at quarterback, Um, 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem for the Bears defense when 142 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: he's not right. Just a defense this isn't right. Yeah, 143 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: that's what I'm wondering, and I've read you here getting 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: my preparation and for the Jets and the Bears this 145 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: weekend is that he dropped a lot along with Leonard 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Floyd against the Patriots and Tom Brady. And this is 147 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: a different animal with the Jets, and we know the 148 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Jets aren't the caliber offense that the Patriots have. But 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: with that being said, and you said that Khalil Mack 150 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: has not been right the last couple of weeks, is 151 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: there any possibility you think the team would shut him 152 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: down for a week or two in order, uh, for 153 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: look into the long term. It really is a great question. 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: It's a great debate to have as well, because the 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Bear already had their bye week, so there's not a 156 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: lot of time for kobil Mac to getting an ankle right. 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: I guess is you know, look, he's likely not going 158 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: to practice much all of them get to the end 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: of the week. In his ankle, is it feeling any 160 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: better than it did last week? They might have to 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: have that hard conversation about possibly deactivating him for one 162 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: game just to make sure that he's good to go 163 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: for the stretch run. Kobel Mack has never missed a 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: game I can't imagine he wants to start doing that now, 165 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: but he is so important to this defense in the 166 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things that maybe you could sacrifice a 167 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: week if he's shown no improvement, maybe another week of 168 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: rest and recovery and treatment gets him to the point 169 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: where he feels good enough like he can actually go 170 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: out there and make more of an impact they did 171 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. We'll see, We'll see what his status 172 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: is this week, if he talks. We couldn't get him 173 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: in the locker room after the Patriots game. He he 174 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: pulled the old veteran move or he pulled the stuff 175 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: out of the locker and said he was going to 176 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: treatment and just never came back. That's the old veteran 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: moved there for the postgame locker room. So we haven't 178 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: spoken to him yet, but obviously he was not happy 179 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: with his performance. And yeah, I mean that ankle was 180 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't even eight percent he was he was se 181 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: this did not look healthy playing out there against New England. 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, outside of Khalil mac though, this Bears defense 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: is highly regarded as one of the best in the league, 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: even last year. So outside of Khalil Mack is what 185 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: is the strength and the identity of this Bears defense? Well, 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: really everything. I can't overstate just how much Mac sets 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: the table for everyone else. Because when he's not applying 188 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: that pressure, um a secondary is it nearly as effective. 189 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: They're really instantly that identity after Phil Mac. So when 190 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: he's not able to do the things that he normally does, 191 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: the entire defense suffers. And again, I just think you've 192 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: seen how they've played the last two weeks without him 193 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: being at full strength. It is concerning um. Even with 194 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: the Jets coming up, but then Buffalo the week after, 195 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: the Bears one of those teams guys that could either 196 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: win these next two games or lose these next two games. 197 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no predicting how the Bears are gonna bear. 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be probably a close game and exciting game. 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: But without that pressure and those sacks from Mac, just 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: a different defense. Again, what have your impressions been first 201 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: year head coach Matteggie. Yeah, I like him a lot, 202 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: I really do. I think he is innovative. I mean, 203 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: he's young, he's got the offensive background. I think a 204 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of teams are looking for now. I feel like 205 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: people are buying into what he's selling. You know, the 206 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: offense works. It really does. If the receivers are open. 207 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: The quarterback Mitchell Robinski is sometimes not finding or seeing 208 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: the open guy, which is another issue the Bears are 209 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: facing at the moment. But everything I've seen for Matt 210 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Naggie is positive. He's likable, he's a good spokesperson for 211 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: the organization, which John Fox was not. There's just a 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: whole different vibe and feel with the Bears through six 213 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: games under Matt Naggie than they were under those three 214 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: horrific years under John Fox. Schematically, what can the Jets 215 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: defense expect? Like you mentioned, Naggi comes from the and 216 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: you read coaching trade. He likes to take deep shots 217 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: down the field. Now again, the hold up has been 218 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: that those routes appear to be open often during games, 219 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: but the quarterback just isn't seen the play. That's an issue, 220 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's why you look at Travisky and 221 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: you see some really good moments and some not so 222 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: good moments. He's kind of all over the map, but 223 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: they like to flood the zone. It's a very West 224 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Coast style of offense. Um. I think Tarik Cone is 225 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: really sort of a guy that that sets it all off. 226 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I think the offense can flow through him more so 227 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: than Jordan Howard because Tarik con can attack the edges, 228 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: he can run between the tackles that he has to. 229 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: He's an effective weapon in the flat out of the backfield. 230 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: He can run up the field. So you're gonna see 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: a lot of different looks. Um, you've seen personnel groupings 232 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: this year where Chase Daniels is on the field. They 233 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: almost through a pig last week. The Bradley Soul. You've 234 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: never heard of Bradley Soul and for good reason, he's 235 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: a backup offensive lineman that report as an eligible receiver. 236 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: And for some reason, Tropisky throwing the ball who knows right? 237 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: But um, I mean Neggie tries to keep you off balance. 238 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: He tried to keep you guessing. So I would look 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: for a lot of innovative and creative looks. Do not work, 240 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: but the Bears do get a lot of points for creativity. 241 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a good offense again, I think you'll 242 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: see on Sunday. Um. I think the players are gonna 243 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: be there to be had for the Bears. The question 244 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: is will the quarterback make it happen and not leave 245 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: big players on the field. So you mentioned Mitchell Drubinsky 246 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: and some of his problems. Well, one is, can you 247 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: just talk about some of the other problems that you 248 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: think that Mitchell Troubinsky has been facing this year? And secondly, 249 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: is on the other side of the spectrumers, What are 250 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: the some of the things that he's done well so far? Yeah, well, 251 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he is a very good athlete. You'll 252 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: see that this weekend. Um, And if you've seen him 253 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: run the ball out of the pocket and eighty one 254 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: rushing yards against the Patriots, that was the second most 255 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: rushing yards ever by a quarterback against the Bill Belichick 256 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: New England team. We saw that crazy Legs Hirst touchdown 257 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: against the Patriots and that was great. Covered yards on 258 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: that one, and then he had a big thirty nine 259 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: yard scramble on third down that was huge for the 260 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: Bears in the second half. He's a great athlete and 261 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: the arm is good enough where he can get at 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the ball where it needs to go. Um. He has 263 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: had moments this year when he's been really locked in. 264 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: He had six touchdowns against the Buccaneers back in Week three. 265 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I thought he played really well in the second half 266 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and in the overtime they lost that 267 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: game because they turned the ball over multiple times inside 268 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: the red zone. But again, I think the dilemma is 269 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: you've got this good that Trabinsky does, but there's also 270 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the times where he's not accurate. He missed on twenty 271 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: four pass attempts against the Patriots. That's a lot of misses. 272 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: We have the Statar ESPN we used called tight window throws, 273 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: and at one point on Sunday Trabinsky was over ten 274 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: with two picks on what we call tight window throws. 275 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: That's not good. Um, guys will be open, he'll airmail 276 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the ball over their head. So I think it's just 277 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: a product of a byproduct of a guy that did 278 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: not play a lot in college, played in this archaic 279 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: offense last year, is learning this new system. There's a 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: lot coming at him, and he's just not where he 281 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: needs to be right now. I think with the mental 282 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: stuff to consistently be an above average player, he has 283 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: way above average talent, but the great ones typically played 284 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: pretty well week after week. He's not at that point yet. 285 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I think there again, there were times against New England 286 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: that you look great. There are other times that it 287 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: left you scratch in your head. So I think right now, 288 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: trying to get him more consistent is that Bears the 289 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: biggest objective. I have a two part question here. Part 290 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: A would be the Bears rushing offense. Is that solid 291 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: or is it more of um? You can point to 292 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: the reason the stats are good is because Traubinsky is 293 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: using his legs so much. And the second part of 294 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: this is how can this jet's defense exploit potential mismatches 295 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: against the Bears. Yeah, well, I think the rushing offense 296 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: is a concern because I just don't think Jordan Howard 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: fits into what the Bears do anymore. On offense, He's 298 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: had a really down Here's the guy that have back 299 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: to back when bouts in the yard seasons. I mean, 300 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm not putting police when I say this. Don't jump 301 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: out at me, but like, statistically speaking, what he did 302 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: over the first two years of his Bears career, only 303 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: guys like Walter Payton have done better. I mean, he 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: really from a statistical standpoint, has done very well, did 305 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: very well. But I don't think he's fast enough for 306 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: this offense. I don't think this offense is big on 307 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, the big plotting guy between the tackles with 308 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: this RPO style. So I just think that, you know, 309 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: and then plus he had a bad fumble around the 310 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: goal line against the Dolphins two weeks ago. That's not 311 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna endear him to Matt Naggie. So I don't think 312 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: beyond this year he's got much of a future in Chicago. 313 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: So I think the running a tag, I wouldn't say 314 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: the status are misleading. I think it's been pretty disappointing 315 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: this year, and it really starts with Jordan how Ward 316 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and the Bears relative um lack of usage with him. 317 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's number one as far as exploring mismatches. 318 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think really what the Jets have to do, 319 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: honestly is if you take away to Ricon and you 320 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: forced Trabisky to be accurate with his passes, and you 321 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: forced the Bears to give the ball to Jordan Howard, 322 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: I think that's playing in your favor because I don't 323 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: think Rabinsky has shown except for that Tampa game, which 324 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: was terrific, that's been kind of an outlier. I think 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Drabinsky has shown that he can be accurate with those 326 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: throws for four quarters. I just talked about the Bears 327 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: reluctance to kind of buy in the Jordan Howard this season, 328 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: so the Jets defense could absolutely cause the Bears some 329 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: some problems. The Bears also, I should point out, gave 330 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: a fourteen point on special teams last so if you 331 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: throw those out the window, maybe it's a different story 332 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. So I don't think the Jets will 333 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: completely stymy the Bears offense, but you can absolutely force 334 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: them into make a mistakes. And Drabinsky, his decision making 335 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: at times this year has been suspect. When the Jets 336 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: offense works, they're running the football. How have the Bears 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: been against the rush this year? Not great? Last week, 338 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, um, Sony Michelle got hurt early in 339 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: that game for the Patriots, and then they still managed 340 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: to run the ball late in the game, and they've 341 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: led about three and a half minutes off the clock 342 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: when the Bears knew they were gonna run the ball. 343 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: So the run defense has not been that spectacular. Um, 344 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: they aren't down getting up rushing many rushing touchdowns or anything. Um. 345 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think that's something that is going 346 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: to have to be watched closely. I think Day Trevisan 347 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: is a very good inside linebacker. He's probably the best 348 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: guy against the run. I'll tell you someone the Bears 349 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: are waiting for to kind of have a big, you know, 350 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: coming out party even versus the run, is ro Kuan Smith, 351 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: their top ten pick. Very quiet this year. A couple 352 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: of players here there, but nothing like people were saying, well, 353 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: here's your defensive rookie of the year, Bubba. He had 354 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: a great career at Georgia, hasn't been that great memory, 355 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: held out all the free season because of his contract, 356 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: or almost almost all preseason. Then he got hurt and 357 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: missed the tailor of the preseason, so he doesn't have 358 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: a lot to draw upon here. Yet he's still kind 359 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: of green. I think the Jets could probably take advantage 360 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: of that. But against the run, I would say the 361 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: Bears are just kind of average. They're better when Khalil 362 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: Max on the field playing against the run, but last 363 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: week their run defense was nothing to get excited about. 364 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Just just going off of the question here. So if 365 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: you're if you're Jeremy Bates and this Jets offense, I 366 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: know it's earlier in the week, but how do opponents 367 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: typically have success against his Bears defense. And what do 368 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: you envision the Jets might do to exploit the Bears defense, 369 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: even if Khalil Mack is on the field. Not sure? Well, 370 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you got to get the ball quick. 371 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that's of course what Tom Brady does. Um 372 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: even brock Oshwiler got the ball out relatively quickly against 373 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: the Bears defense. It's just, you know, the first four games, 374 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: I would have said, good luck, you know. I mean, 375 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: because the first four games with the Bears, Dee was 376 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: outstanding and you were going to do much against them. 377 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: Mac was healthy, everyone's healthy. They were sacking the quarterback 378 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: on average at four point five times per game. That 379 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: was number one in the NFL. They were taking the 380 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: ball away force and bubbles. But again, I think this 381 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: version of the defense if Mac is not healthy, I 382 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: think their defense that you can you can attack. I 383 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: think you can run on them. I think you can 384 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: hit those quick hitters, and you know, you gotta do 385 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: make the Bears tackle you in space. They've missed a 386 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of big open field tackles this year. Big I'm 387 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: talking about big splash plays versus the Dolphins where they're 388 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: safety that he Jackson, Adrian Amos just weren't making the play. 389 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: So it's not this invincible defense that it was earlier 390 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: this year. Unless you know, they tape up that ankle 391 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: or do whatever they gotta do to get Mac right, 392 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: and and he's out there just you know, dancing on 393 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Sam's Arnold on Sunday, then maybe it's a different story. 394 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: But but if he's not right, I do think Jeffkin 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: games contraction that I certainly can't ask you if this 396 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: is a must win for the Bears here as we 397 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: reach week eight. But with that being said, there's three 398 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: and three. They easily could be four and two, maybe 399 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: five and one, when when you look at what has 400 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: transpired for them over the season's first six games, how 401 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: important is this do you think, Jeff, for them to 402 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: get this game? Because after this one, you got to 403 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: think that the Bears have a good shot taken down 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Well, I mean, if you're thinking playoffs, 405 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: which which, by the way, I have got grip the 406 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: playoffs Bears this year. I thought they would be around 407 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: and eight. Now standing by that, I just think it's 408 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I think it's too soon for this team that had 409 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: been dead last in the NFC North fourth straight seasons 410 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden contend for a championship. I'm not 411 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: buying that, but you know, it is a huge game 412 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: because what's been lost in all of this really for 413 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: the Bears is that they got after that three and 414 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: one start. It was a surprised even one start. But 415 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: what happened was the Packers, the Vikings, and the Lions 416 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: all had these issues early in the year. But by 417 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: losing these last two games, the Bears have allowed the 418 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: rest of the NFC North they kind of find their footing. 419 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: And you look at the standings today and the Bears 420 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: are back in last place because they're all and one 421 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: in the in their division, and you know they're not 422 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: having a bad year or anything, but that's that's how 423 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: quick it can change in the NFL. So I think 424 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: it's a big win for the big game for the 425 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: Bears if they're really thinking about playoffs, and I think 426 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: they will probably win. But again, with this team, how 427 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: up and down they are, nothing but surprised me whatsoever. 428 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Jeff, last question here for you is, uh, 429 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: the Bears offensive line. How do you think that they've 430 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: fared so far this season? And do you think that 431 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams can cause them some issues up front, no doubt. 432 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't think the offensive line has been all that great. 433 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: I would say very average, very very average, especially against 434 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: New England in Miami. Uh yes, I think Learn Williams 435 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: is a is a tough guy to handle for them, 436 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: and we will be a tough guy to handle for them. Um. 437 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: I think Trabinsky's scrambling ability that allowed him to get 438 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: out of some sacks, but he's still going down quite 439 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: a bit and they're not running the football. So definitely 440 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: not the best that the Bears need to see from 441 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: their offensive line at this point. That's that's saying it lightly. 442 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: That is Jeff Dickerson of ESPN. Thank you so much, 443 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Jeff for coming on the Official Jets Podcast. You can 444 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at Dickerson ESPN. Jeff, thanks again, 445 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Sunday guides, My pleasure will see a Sunday enjoy the game. 446 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: All right. That was Jeff Dickerson of ESPN Chicago. Again. 447 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at Dickerson ESPN. ZO. 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Before we rolled into that, I said out a good 449 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: question for you, So we're not gonna break down, Jeff, 450 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, No, we'll talk about him in a minute, 451 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: but we got time for that. I want to know 452 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: is what do you think the Jets can prove this 453 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: Sunday If they come out of chicag Go with nothing. 454 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: What Jermaine Curse said, they could prove that they're a 455 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: gritty team. I think right now they were feeling good 456 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: about themselves. They take down the Broncos and the Colts, 457 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: and I thought the effort was there against Minnesota. Execution 458 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: execution wasn't We've seen so far what works the blueprint 459 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: for the Jets. They have to run the football. They 460 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: can't let Donald throw more than thirty five times, not 461 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: because he's not talented, just because the way this offense 462 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: is constituted is you have to have balance, and the 463 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Jets did not have balance once again against Minnesota. They 464 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: need big plays defensively. They played well against Minnesota for 465 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: large portions of that game, especially early. That was a 466 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: tennis seven game at halftime. But when you have opportunities 467 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: to make plays, and they got off the field on 468 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: third down throughout, but when there's a ladder all there 469 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, you gotta grab the ball. They 470 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of p d s, but they need 471 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: interceptions the Jets have to win, uh in the turnover battle, 472 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: so they have to follow their blueprint. But to me, 473 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: it would just be another step and a process because 474 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: this is a young team who just got punched again. 475 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Now what are you gonna do? It looks a lot 476 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: different being five hundred at the midway point rather than 477 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: being three and five. A lot different. And while I 478 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: would agree with Jeff's assessment that I don't think the 479 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: Bears are ready to be in the playoffs themselves just yet, 480 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: this is a team who is in a similar predicament 481 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: as you. So if you can go in and on 482 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: the road, I think you're taking another step in the process. 483 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that as just going off of Jeff's 484 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: assessment is what did you take away from what Jeff 485 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: said about the Bears of the Jets? Trabinsky, You know, 486 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the run game has necessarily been there. 487 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I think it. Naggi is a very talented coach, and 488 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna scheme some things up, and he's gonna get 489 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: his players and positions to make plays. Uh. Trabinsky is 490 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: a guy who he's looking to tuck it a lot. 491 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: And while he can make plays and he's supremely athletic. 492 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I think there will be plays to be made in 493 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield against him, and sometimes he is very inaccurate. 494 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: So you have to see what happens out there on 495 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Sunday because they do have weapons. I like Naggie defensively. 496 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: You know how we keep on talking about Mac, but 497 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: how can you not because Jeff said this defense was excellent, 498 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: and then the last two weeks it's gone away because 499 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: the guy is not healthy. I mean, he's I think 500 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: it's rare that a team will trade a pretty decent 501 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: amount of capital for someone like Mac, pay him, and 502 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: then within the first four weeks that he's played in 503 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: his new uniform have fans saying, Okay, this guy's worth 504 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: every penny because the first four weeks he was a 505 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: one man wrecking crew. I mean you saw it on 506 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: display on Sunday Night Football we were in Detroit. If 507 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: you watched any part of that game, Khalil Mac almost 508 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: took over that entire game for the Chicago Yeah, and 509 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: I know, let's let's not hide the fact either that 510 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: a lot of Jets fans wanted Khalil Mac, but the 511 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: asking price was up there. Who knows what happened. As 512 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: far as phone calls either way and things like that, 513 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: we don't know. We're not privy to those conversations, but uh, 514 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: you know Oakland decided to trade them outside the conference 515 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: to Chicago, and uh, the Raiders just in a little 516 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: tangent here. Wow, they're really tearing that baby down. And 517 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: they're he's got a tiny year contract crowding and he's saying, listen, 518 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: to give me some more ones, give me some more ones. 519 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: I got five first rounders over over the next two years, 520 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily think they're done. No, that's Uh, 521 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: we could have a whole other podcast. I'm discussing what's 522 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: going on the Silver and Black podcast. That would be 523 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: for our man, Chris Gardano, the executive Jets three sixty. 524 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: But uh, listen, he's a game changer and you can 525 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: make an argument that he will be the best player 526 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: in the field on Sunday. But again, when when you're hampered, uh, 527 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with an ankle, that explosiveness is not there, 528 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: and uh, interesting game plans, see how they come out. 529 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Because Jeff also said they've been average. That's what I 530 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: take away from his answer when I asked him about 531 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the run defense or you did them an average, And 532 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: so can the Jets get it going on the ground 533 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: with whoever's healthy enough to play? Balapa's bettling in that 534 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Isaiah Rowaw has been gutting it out lately. And then 535 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: I like what I saw how the Trenton Cannon. So 536 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: there's a couple of young guys offensively that I've been 537 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: encouraged about lately. And and the number one is it 538 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: has to be Chris Herndon had to be chriscerned it. 539 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: You gotta be really happy about him. And then you 540 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: had Trenton Cannon into the mix, who had a number 541 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: of receptions, including on a long one on the wheel route. 542 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: And we'll have to see how quickly the Jets can 543 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: get Richard Matthews up to speak. Yeah, that'll be interesting 544 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: to see what happens there and just to see what 545 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: number he chooses. Oh look at you. Yeah, I'm the 546 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: numbers guy because we're Schard Matthews War eighteen and Tennessee. 547 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: And on Sunday was Deante Burnett who got called up 548 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Saturday when the Jets released Terrell Prior because of growing issues. 549 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how the numbers game of shuffles. 550 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of numbers games or shard, Matthews was very productive 551 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen and two thousand seventeen for the 552 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: Titans if you look at his numbers. Whatever happened this year, 553 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: we don't know. We weren't down in Nashville. He had 554 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: a few receptions and asked to be uh asked the 555 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: team to be traded or released, and the Titans released them, 556 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: and he was on the block for a little bit. 557 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: And the Jets are dealing with a lot of injuries 558 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: right now, keep on talking about it. But once the 559 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: anyone was still on the shelf, and they released Darrell Prior, 560 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: who was dealing with that grin issue. So your top 561 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: two receivers Robby Anderson, who got targeted a lot against 562 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings, your main curse was only targeted a couple 563 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: of times. They didn't have any receptions. But then you 564 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: moved other guys into duties that we hadn't seen so 565 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: far before. In two thousand and eighteen, Andre Roberts has 566 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: been primarily used justice the return and then obviously toront 567 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Peak is a special team's ace what he was out 568 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: there as well. And then finally you mentioned Burnett. So 569 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: those guys were three, four or five, whatever you order 570 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: you want to put them in um. But Richard Matthews 571 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: ads another guy who's put up some decent numbers in 572 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Well, one final thing here before 573 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: we close out the Official Jets Podcast. So we're done, 574 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: all right, all right, Well we can keep going. But 575 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: I definitely want to bring this up. Is that if 576 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: you look at We've talked about this a little bit, 577 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: but if you look at Chicago and you said they're 578 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: similar to what's going on here in New York or 579 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: I guess I should I say Flora Park, you can 580 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: say both. Is that the Bears last offseason surrounded Mitchell 581 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: Trubisky with a number of weapons like Taylor Gabriel, who 582 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: leads the team in receptions and yards best, Alan Robinson, 583 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: who missed the entirety of two tho vertical threat and 584 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: he's probably and Turbinsky has probably been missing him down 585 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: the field because he even been getting a lot of 586 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: targets lately. I know he's coming back from injury too. 587 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Go and Trey Burton, who is of course the Philly 588 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: special hero. Okay, he's one of over a hunter yards 589 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: receiving last week. He has New England Patrick. He's been 590 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: one of Mitchell Trubisky's favorite targets as well. So what 591 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: are the Bears gonna do? Greens? After you listens listen 592 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: to Jeff Dickerson, here's my question for you, is that 593 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Howard Dickerson doesn't think he's a good fit there 594 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: and he got three Cohing. You think three Cohen possibly 595 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: could get more run against the Jets? I would, I 596 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: would assume. So I think that. I mean, we're recording 597 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: this Tuesday. The trade deadline is next Tuesday. Maybe he's 598 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: a name on the block. If he if he if 599 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't fit in the system, why not trying to 600 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: get rid of someone that's had back to back a 601 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: thousand yards seasons and you don't really see him in 602 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: the future plans for your offense. And the Jets have 603 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 1: dealt with a lot on their back end, you know, 604 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: as far as injuries are concerned. But you U asked 605 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Jeff about the offensive line and it just seems like 606 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: they're kind of middle of the road. So can the 607 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Jets get a big performance from their defensive line in 608 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: the outside linebackers? And yeah, I'm interested to see what happens, obviously, 609 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: but something that just circling back is when the when 610 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about how the Bears have surrounding Mitchell 611 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Troubisky with with weapons that you take into account moving 612 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: forward for the Jets is that they they're gonna have 613 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot of cap room, a lot of financial flexibility 614 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: in the off season. Maybe they're gonna use some of 615 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: that money to try to beef up this offense. I mean, 616 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: there's some free agents that the Jets are gonna have 617 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: to deal with on the outside. And as correctly, if 618 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, is blow of free agent at the end 619 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: of the year. I don't know that could be accurate, 620 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: but regardless of Jets could add a couple of clams. 621 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: You are right, You are right, and that that is 622 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: definitely going to happen. I'm sure that is in the 623 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: cards because you are going to build this team around 624 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: your quarterback and that's Sam Donald. And like you mentioned before, 625 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: he's riding the ups and downs right now. And I 626 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: didn't think he was awful against Minnesota. He just didn't. 627 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: He didn't play that well. But there are a wide 628 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: number of factors UH pointed to that and that weren't 629 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: just all on Sam Donald, and that's all we have 630 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: here on the Official Jets podcast, Together Jets Bears, Sunday, 631 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: one pm, Soldier Field. If you have questions that you 632 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: want us to answer, tweet A E A E Aller Jets, 633 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: you could creet at the Greenberg Jets will answer your questions. 634 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: That gets week's pot or the next week's body. The 635 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: more questions you gave it, more questions will answer. Do 636 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: you have anything else any party words? No, But Donald 637 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to me has always been able to bounce back, and 638 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: he's got that level head, level headedness about himself, and 639 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: I really like his temperament. So I'm very interested to 640 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: see how he plays this weekend against the defense that 641 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: has been up and down. But if Mac is rarer 642 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: to go, that's a big time challenge. All Right, those 643 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: are E's parting words here on the Official Jets Podcast. 644 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: But that's all we have and we'll see you next week.