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Speaker 1: doing it. Yea. Like now everyone was kind of doing

424
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: it at that point. Ye So yeah, that's what it was.

425
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: It's like sucking Atlanta now, Like my sister's like in

426
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: Dunwoodie where it's like she's with all the fucking white

427
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: people and that's great and like she's they're happy there.

428
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: But it's like I whenever I go to Atlanta, I

429
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: don't I just go straight like north to fucking you know,

430
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: and you see a whole another Atlanta that someone was

431
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: in the right, and I'm like, oh, I would I

432
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: would like want to sort of get like like a

433
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: good sampling of all of this, And like that's why

434
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: I like I try to like go to like Midtown

435
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: every now and then when I when I'm there, or

436
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: just like when Matt and I were there. We just

437
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: that there's like gays in everything, you know what I mean.

438
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: It's just weird. Like whenever when we went to we

439
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: didn't like, um like when we do. We went to

440
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Texas and did shows there, and people showed up for

441
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: the shows. I was like, Oh, cool, they're out here.

442
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: And then honestly, it's like, because our show has like

443
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: thirty comics on it and it's majority like women, people

444
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: of color and LGBT people, and it's just it's oh,

445
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: it's always just interesting that there there's like a scene there,

446
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: But there's not like an active scene in every city.

447
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: And so that's something I think we take for granted.

448
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: In New York. It's like these shows aren't just popping

449
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: up everywhere. So I guess I'm curious about like that

450
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: also not to be this person, but I also thinks

451
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: something that white men take for grant. Yeah, it's very

452
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: hard to find active black gay scenes anywhere, you know

453
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like even in like it's like Atlanta

454
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: has one. Even in New York, it's not really like

455
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: it's not out there. It's Boston. So it's like, if

456
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: you do want a party, you have to go out

457
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: with the white gays and mostly white gay men and

458
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: that's just gonna be the vibe. And then there's like

459
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: four like especially hard for lesbians because we don't even

460
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: go outside, so we have a whole another thing that

461
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: deal with, which is like insane. I know. I mean

462
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: it's like that I'm glad I'm in a relationship now

463
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: and like me and y'all will go hang. But like

464
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: when I was out here just trying to be like

465
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: single dyking, it was miserable. Like even when lesbians go out,

466
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: we couple out, we go out couple there's not a

467
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: lot of like single lesbian scenes, like hookup scenes, except

468
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. Except for Atlanta, describe it. Atlanta is just

469
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: it's like what you would think. Atlanta is just gate

470
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: so it's like the same stuff. It's like booty music

471
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: is like you know what I mean, Like it's like

472
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: trap music. It's you know, old and don't some stuff

473
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: like that, and like that's what the club will play

474
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: and just white play with people listening on the radio,

475
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: but it'll just be like, oh, lesbians is the first

476
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: city I have experienced that we could go to a

477
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: club that called like three D people and it'll be

478
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: full of black Lesbian, and it was like, Okay, everyone

479
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: in here is like available to fun. Yeah yeah, yeah,

480
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: yeah yeah that that you're you're describing that, and it's like,

481
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to say this from from my own

482
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: fucking loves, but that sounds so rare. It is like

483
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: just like where you can like listen to Megan a

484
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Stallion and have a to like twerk on you and

485
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: be like yes, oh my god. Exactly, and that it

486
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: was into like a weird house version. Yeah exactly. It

487
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: just is what it is, what it is. Let music

488
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: be the music really really quickly have to say before

489
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: but I do want to keep talking about this, but

490
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: I do have to say that Sam J is the

491
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: reason why I listen to Megan in Stallions. Really yeah,

492
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: brought it to me. Tinas now had just come out

493
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: and and Sam comes over to me. She goes, I

494
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: think you'd really like Megan the Stallions, Like great, And

495
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: then I listened to listen to it. You're like, listen

496
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: to it, freak. I was like great. I listened to it.

497
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I was like, freak, this is sucking insane. And then

498
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: she when she was on when Chance was house staying,

499
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: I told I went up to Megan, I was like, um, whatever,

500
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: writers sam Jay told me about you and I and

501
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: she was like I was like, oh great, and I

502
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: told you what she said. She was like, she was like,

503
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: I saw you guys on the TV. It looks so fun.

504
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, She's like, she's like, I want

505
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: to do this. I was like, you should. Oh my god.

506
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: I did you get to meet her when she was

507
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: there her? You did you see her like in person? Though? Like, yeah,

508
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: are like walking around the hottest person I've ever seen me, Like,

509
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, she is stunning, stunning, stunning, Like yeah,

510
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: I won't even let me watch her on the TV. Wow. Really,

511
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: oh my god. Okay, have you guys been together? Oh man,

512
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: we've been like sucking around off and off for ten

513
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: Really you guys meet again. You told me my friend's

514
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: car broke down in front of her house. He didn't

515
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: tell me. I didn't know about this. You didn't. Wait,

516
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: what is that story? We were leaving the club and

517
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: we were like we were it was like a big

518
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: group of us and she was like a part, like

519
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: a satellite part of that group SA in the club

520
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: and then my friend got to fight black lesbian Atlanta drama.

521
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: My friend got to fight with a girl. Her girl

522
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: smacked her in the club. It was a whole thing.

523
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: So they were like fighting all the way out the club.

524
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: So me and my homie were following our homie who

525
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: was fighting their girl. They and the girl that they

526
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: were fighting was Yaw's homie. So then they were like

527
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: argue in front of our's house and then they took

528
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: off together. We were like, okay, they're crazy whatever, and

529
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: we pulled out to leave and we hit a curb

530
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: because my friend, Goose was high. Uh we hit a curb.

531
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: Goose hit a curb. Blue tire out um and we

532
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: were just sitting out there way and I had a

533
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time. We were waiting on my girlfriend

534
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: to come pick us up, and y'all came back downstairs

535
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: because she had seen us sitting on the curb and

536
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: she was like, if you guys want some water or

537
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: something like that. So her she was like, you don't

538
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: gotta sit out here, you know it's hot. So we

539
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: went up and she was just talked to us in

540
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the kitchen and she had a girl at the time,

541
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: and I was just like enamored. I was was for

542
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: sure she has a quality. She definitely Bo's got her

543
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: number on some let's be friends and I'll hang out.

544
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, Goose, I like that girl, so

545
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: we would like Goose would have raised these hangs and

546
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: we would just be hanging. And then one day you

547
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: drunk at a club. I said something very forward. How

548
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: long the friend? This was maybe like a week, like

549
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: a week or we're gonna st Yeah, I said some

550
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: super forward. She was receptive. She heard me, may go

551
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: to our house. Well, first we were talking on the phone.

552
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: I still had a girlfriend. I was being I was

553
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: such a dog when I was in such a dog.

554
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: So I still a girlfriend. And then she was like, um,

555
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: why don't you have a girlfriend? I was like, who

556
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: says I did? But I think she kind of liked

557
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: my boat and that's about it. Yeah, And I think

558
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: I said that that would that would like that. That's

559
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: super hot. That the fact that you said that very

560
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: very honestly, yeah, because no one just says what they mean.

561
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I said that, and I told her that

562
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I wanted her to be my mistress. I was just,

563
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was actually the same thing that Like,

564
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: I was just on my supermack and you know what,

565
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and then and then we linked up like

566
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: two days later, and then we did it. And then

567
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: I called my girlfriend that night and dumped her, I know,

568
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: which was terrible. That not good. It was the whole thing.

569
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: Does she know why or you were just like for

570
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: reasons I will not disclose. I was just like I

571
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: didn't go into all of it, but she was kind

572
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: of aware of what I'm saying. And but I like,

573
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: once we had sex, I was like, I'm gonna want

574
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: to do this all the time. That's great. But then

575
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: but then didn't still have a girl at this time. No, no, no,

576
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: she had broken up with her girl that we were

577
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: like being friends, they had things, so they were kind

578
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: of already on the outs, I guess, um, so she

579
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: was out here just banling, you know. And then I

580
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: just like chased her around for years like a like

581
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: an idiot. Um. And then we stopped talking for a bit.

582
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I got married. Then we happen to be in New

583
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: York at the same time. I saw each other in

584
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: New York and then I was like, I still love

585
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: this girl. That's just ridiculous. Still try to make my

586
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: marriage where it did it and now here we are

587
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: when when I met you at j f L. Is

588
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: that when you were going through a divorce. I was

589
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: like on the ends of it. Yes, yeah, I remember

590
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: you talked about that a lot in your set. Yeah. Yeah,

591
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: the sip of the rose is happening. But that's I mean,

592
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: what you two have is like so special. You can

593
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: tell however, man, she's like truly my best friend. Yeah,

594
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: and she's just such a good like she's like she's

595
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: she has a light that I don't, which is so dope.

596
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: It's just like her energy is so pure and like big,

597
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: like she has a big heart for like everybody. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

598
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: she's dope, is she? Um? Does she watch a lot

599
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: of your stuff? She goes to like every show. She

600
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: could she go to every show, but she goes to

601
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot shows. But you know, it's so dope. Like

602
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I used to be so resistant of it because, um,

603
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: I was so protective of comedy and like I felt

604
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: like it was mine and I didn't want anyone in.

605
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: And she says, why don't you, like, you know, let

606
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: me in more? And I'm like, I don't really know

607
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: what you mean by that, but really I was like

608
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: being so guarded with her, And now like she goes

609
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: to shows and stuff, and she impresses the hell out

610
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: of me because she loves me that much and she

611
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: pays into that much, and she knows jokes. So sometimes

612
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: when I change stuff, she she knows. She knows when

613
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I change things, or she'll like remembers something that set

614
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: and be like, Babe, you know that would work with

615
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the thing you said to days ago, and it's like

616
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: it would be truly super healthy. They're good, and they're

617
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: like super revel because she's really paying attention and also

618
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: she knows you so well, so she can feel when

619
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: something out of right. And one time, I remember I

620
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: was on stage. I was on stage and I was talking, talking, talking, talking, talking,

621
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: and it's on tape somewhere, which she loves. She loves

622
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: these documented I saved the day moments. But I was

623
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna stage talking and I forgot where I was going.

624
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I totally forgot where I was going,

625
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: and y'all yelled out like apple sauce, and I was like,

626
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: that was where I was going. But I was like,

627
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: I was doing a new set. It wasn't like I

628
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: was doing a like we teacher see before. I was

629
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: doing a new set. But she just knew like process

630
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: that was the next logical spot for don't you know?

631
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: It was crazy and it was like that is exactly

632
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: what I was about to go. What does she do?

633
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: She's in interior designer. Oh nice, she's very good. She's

634
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: very good and kind of visual. I remember Sam and

635
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I did a photoshoop one time and she was just

636
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: out there. She was just like fixing, like where things

637
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: were sad and like she was she was she was

638
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: not fixing fixing. She's great like that. You know people

639
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: with that. It's like yeah, yeah, and she's like such

640
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: a good partner. Yeah, and it's interesting that you're like

641
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: before like I didn't. I was very protective of that

642
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: and like of my of my work, and I didn't

643
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: think I would let anyone in, especially a significant other.

644
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: But it's like, what's the alternative? Would would the alternative

645
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: just be that, like yeah, like wouldn't be I wouldn't

646
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: have any investment in like what your work was. And

647
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: then like she's totally separate from like what you mean?

648
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, like I don't know because I didn't grow

649
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: up seeing any example of it. Yeah, just both had

650
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: jobs and they come home and then they goes, both

651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: go to jobs. So it was like with this thing

652
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: and and also like protective because it truly saved my

653
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: fucking life in a way, you know what I mean.

654
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: So so like guarded with how that energies being messed with,

655
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so I never really

656
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: seen examples of how you like let someone into something

657
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: so personal because I didn't grow up seeing that type

658
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: of energy. So it was just I just felt like

659
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: that's I do this, and then are what we do

660
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: is what we do, you know? And I didn't get

661
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: why she was pushing, but it was like she was

662
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: pushing because she's like this is so important. That's how

663
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: do you expect me to be fully out of something

664
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: that matters to you so much as stand up is

665
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: not super collaborative anyway from else be and you don't

666
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: want to get your girls my girls tags like baby,

667
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: but that's not what we just had to learn like

668
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: a language, and like that's not what she does. She

669
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: doesn't give me tags, you know, be like don't forget

670
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: that piece or don't drop that or why don't you

671
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: say that? And sometimes it's like because I completely forgot

672
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I said it, or oh because of reason, but It's

673
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: also is good to have someone that I trust that

674
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: much to download in because now I talked to her

675
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: like I call her after sets at the celler in

676
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: the cab and be like, yeah, that thing did work

677
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: bad but it didn't or I don't know. I was

678
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: a little frustrated with this part of it. And it's

679
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: like before I would just keep all that stuff in

680
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: and then she's feeling that energy. She feels that that's

681
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: on me when I come home and I'm not sharing something,

682
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: and that makes her feel isolated. You know, I just

683
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: had to learn how I think. Man, it's just alive.

684
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: Is gonna grow up in real loving households, and you

685
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: don't realize that to you out in the world. So

686
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: it's like I just had to learn how to let

687
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: someone love me, because that's really all she was trying

688
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: to do. And even if it's like I don't like it,

689
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I can vocalize that. We vocal about that, but I

690
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: gotta let her love me. You know what, what are

691
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: we doing? I think that the ideal is someone that

692
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: does it, like because she does her own thing and

693
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: it is creative and like she is obviously very creative

694
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: and does have that love for you and she gets it,

695
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: you know. That's the thing is like in my relationship now,

696
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: it's like he does not do what I do, but

697
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: he does get it and can help and say likewise.

698
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: And that is like ideally what you want, is it?

699
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: It should feel like like the pieces come together. Yeah,

700
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: But when you don't have all that, like if you're

701
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: not seeing examples of that, you know, you're like, I'm

702
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: doing I did this communy thing on my own. This

703
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: is me, you know what I mean, and you're coming

704
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: with that energy. Then it's like someone's like, hey, let

705
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: me tell you what I think, or just you're like, no,

706
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: this is mine, you know what I mean. And at

707
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you are the I guess

708
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like if there were

709
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: to be credits, you would still be the creator, executive

710
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: producer of the project. That is you. So it's like,

711
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's just a piece that

712
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: supplements the whole. And also you know for sure that

713
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: it's coming from a good, positive, loving place. It's not.

714
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: It's not this thing where it's like I have to

715
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: question the motive. Yeah, but it was like I just

716
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: had to let my guard. That's what she was giving, like, hey, babe,

717
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: I have an idea right here. I'm like taken offense

718
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: to that, Like, oh, you think you could tell me

719
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: how to do That's not where this energy is coming

720
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: from it. Oh like, so let it be pure because

721
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: it is pure, you're putting impurities in it. Yeah, it

722
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from your credibility at all. You know, Wait,

723
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: where were you going to school for? I went to

724
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: school for communications. I went to school for Then you

725
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: go to school fool when you want to go to

726
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: school that when you don't want to be there. Before

727
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: before you you wanted to do comedy. What was did

728
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: you have like any great? I was just doing a

729
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. Man. I was party promoting in Atlanta

730
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: for a while, and then I worked in music and

731
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: at like four or five years I got this team

732
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: people and started like as this independent label. We opened

733
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: up a studio. I was just doing stuff, trying to

734
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: figure out. But there's like an abundance of that, what

735
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: the hell go on? I think a lot of people have,

736
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: But I genuinely think we all go to college to

737
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: fucking early. I really think, like I've seen it happened

738
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: so many times people that just they they're in these

739
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: schools and they're paying the money, and you, I don't

740
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: know if you. I think it's a very The percentage

741
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: of people that actually know what they want to do

742
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: or feel like they're okay to say what they want

743
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: to do at eighteen years old very small. And then

744
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: it's even harder, like when you're coming from these communities,

745
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't have access to stuffmation. So it's like, now,

746
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: like I'm a comedy writer, right, I remember being a

747
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: person was interested in communy as a kid. I like

748
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: to write, you know what I'm saying. But when I

749
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: think about, like, who is going to point me in

750
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that direction? In my family and my school system, any

751
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: of that to the point where I didn't even know

752
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: that was the thing you could do. I know, understanding

753
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: you could be that or go to school for that,

754
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: but none of that for me. I thought you just

755
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: accidentally became those type of things, you know, like you

756
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: just got lucky and in life just kind of worked

757
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: out for you. But I didn't know there was like

758
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: a career path to it because I didn't have access

759
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: to that information. You know what I'm saying, Will you

760
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: forget that people write that ship? You know, what I

761
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: mean as a kid you're watching and you're like, these

762
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: are the actors doing it. It must be some it

763
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: must be simpler, even on a level like once I

764
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: was in high school stuff and I'm like, oh, I

765
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: think I want to be a TV writer. In my

766
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: neighbor it wasn't a lot of like how to get

767
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: to that, even like a guidance counselor at that school

768
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: would be like, but I don't know, because it's not

769
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: like what do you you know what I'm saying. And

770
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: it's like, at the end of the day, now I

771
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: write versonnel and it's such a roundabout way that I

772
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: got here, and now that I'm a fullgrown person, I'm like,

773
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: I live in a city. I live in Boston, Dude,

774
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Emerson is the number one comedy writing school maybe in

775
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: the country, and it was up the street from my

776
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: house and I didn't even know you could go to

777
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: school to do something. But then it's not even no

778
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: idea that was even But then you know, it's not

779
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: even a geographical gap. It's truly So that's what I'm saying.

780
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like people think it's like, oh, no, man,

781
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: I lived there. And I'm sure that these other more

782
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: established systems, we're having kids whom mmr sancom talk or

783
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: if those kids that had that type of interest, they

784
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: were creating clubs and stuff for these kids to do.

785
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I just didn't live in

786
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: a neighborhood would know access later. You know, this is

787
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a sidebar, but recently

788
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris said she wants she wants to She's like

789
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: championing a school the school school day go to six pm.

790
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: The school would start at the same time and it

791
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: would go to six pm. And I don't necessarily know

792
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts are why this is happening, but

793
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: I was watching it get discussed on TV, and I

794
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, and I was like, this is

795
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: such a kind of weird thing to mandate for everyone,

796
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: because when you have certain school systems that do not

797
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: have the kinds of um opportunities in school or like

798
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: areas in school some like not every school has like

799
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: a schoolyard, not every school has like this that the

800
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: other things so that they can be doing extra crickets

801
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: at the school. So I feel like it's kind of

802
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: fully and you also the fully like revamped school in

803
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: a way. Yes, like I went to I went to

804
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: a progressive, weird charter school and we did day in

805
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: school to like six, but not by mandate. It was

806
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: just kind of a structure after school. It was it

807
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: was open, you know. The school was just like we're

808
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: never gonna close. Like the principle was so dedicated to

809
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: the community he was want to do like he wouldn't

810
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: leave to the last student left, and a lot of

811
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: students would hang around. And it's not a bad idea

812
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: in the sense that a lot of kids are going

813
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: with parents and jobs stuff, they're going home and nothing

814
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: to be alone or if there stre to it having

815
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe not just straight curriculum. But and that's

816
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: what happened, Like clubs started being made just by students

817
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: because we would be there and teachers would be like

818
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: hanging out and noticed that students hanging out, Like clubs

819
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: started very organically, things started to create, Like to your school,

820
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: they would extend right right, you're saying, that's what happened

821
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to your school. I think it's like it's it's a

822
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: very it's it's a positive idea to say going to

823
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: make school the community and that's exactly what the school,

824
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: like the whole base was was that school is the community,

825
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: and we care about you beyond just what's going on

826
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: with you in this building. And they recognized the need

827
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: for that in that type of neighborhood. Yes, you know

828
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it was such a it changed

829
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: my life. It saved my life. That was another moment

830
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: where my life was saying, you know, my mama died.

831
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: I was spiraling and I remember going to the principal,

832
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: David Pearago. I remember just being over it. Bro. I

833
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: was getting kept back, bro, because I wasn't in school

834
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: my mom and all that, and it's hard to feel.

835
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: I was just feeling like fuck it. Yeah. And I

836
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: went to him and I was like, yeah, I'm dropping out.

837
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: I was eighteen. I was like, I ain't coming back

838
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: and I'm dropping out, bro, like I need whatever. It's

839
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: like you have to get something from them, like sort

840
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: of thing. I'm saying, I'm out of here something. He

841
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm not let you do that. He said,

842
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: take two weeks think about that. Come back. I went

843
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: back to school because I graduated, but it's like if

844
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: I just went to one of the bigg as high schools, Bro,

845
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: they would have just slid that thing under the thing

846
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean. It's like, but he

847
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: knew me as a person and knew it and that's important.

848
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: It's so matters did the way school these classrooms and

849
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: these sizes, and it's like non connection to the kid.

850
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: It's so hard for a kid to care about what

851
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, bro, when they're when their circumstances are so limited,

852
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: and if you don't understand that, you're not gonna be

853
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: able to reach them just saying crazy ship to them.

854
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: You're saying, like you you need to really give a

855
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: funk about this algebra today, And they're like, Bro, I

856
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: don't have food. People don't get that. People circumstances. I

857
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: don't have food, or I don't know where I'm gonna sleep,

858
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: or I don't know how I'm gonna clean my clothes,

859
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: or I don't have we might be evicted tonight. Like

860
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: what are you saying? What are you talking about? What

861
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like I can't even give zero

862
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: funks about this. And there's a lot of teachers, teaching

863
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and communities that is the case over and over and

864
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: they're not figuring out how a way to teach that

865
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: kid they're valuable and how their value supersedes their circumstances. Yes, yes,

866
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: it's so. It sounds so like kind of basic to say,

867
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: but truly education has to come very high on the

868
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: priority list. And I think the class it's the class

869
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: sizes should be trying to be smaller because once these

870
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: class sizes get too big, once you start getting kids

871
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: in the class and you're funneling kids out in forty

872
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: minute periods, boom boom boom, these kids just feel passed

873
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: around and then see other people. It's very hard to

874
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: cultivate individual identity, very hard to feel like people. And

875
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: it's also very hard to recognize for a teacher because

876
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: those that was like another model of that school was

877
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: we were very small classes and we moved through all

878
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: the curriculum together, so you're with like a home group

879
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: of a certain amount of kids and then you would

880
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: just move through every part of your day with those

881
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: um But it's also hard with these larger classes for

882
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: teachers to recognize learning disabilities right and and learning gaps

883
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: because they don't they can't pay attention right right. In

884
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: my school, there was no it was the David's rule

885
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: that there was no track kids, so there was no

886
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: separate classes, especially classes class like that, everybody was just

887
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: in one class. Now that kids sometimes maybe pulled up

888
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: by tutor for our right, but that was so essential

889
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: because so many people are having all these learners because

890
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: they're scared to speak. But it was like in my

891
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: school became less of a thing because they weren't being ostracized,

892
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: isolated and treated like they can't do what we do right.

893
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: And also it's not something you have to then and

894
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: established in a new group of people every day or

895
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: every year. And then it forced us to be more

896
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: respectful of the fact that people learn different and that

897
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: just because you don't learn like me doesn't mean you're

898
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: not intelligence, and it doesn't mean you don't know something.

899
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: We just learned things differently, and we might also just

900
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: learn things at a different pace. All of that is fine,

901
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: but the school did so many things to like drow

902
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: that into us, you know, subconsciously. We didn't have grades,

903
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: we had like learning rulers. We didn't get gays or

904
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: bees or seeds, you know what I mean. You were

905
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: rated on your own work, so you couldn't be like, well,

906
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: I know I did better on this paper than him,

907
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: so why does he have a higher grade than me?

908
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: And at first he used to piss me off, for

909
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: my teacher would be like because he did, because it

910
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: was like exceed expectations. They're like, he did exceed our expectations,

911
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: but you didn't. You was being lazy. We know what

912
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: you're capable of, and you didn't go beyond what you're

913
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: capable of. So you did not exceed. You met it.

914
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: You did what we know you're capable of doing. He

915
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: did something we didn't know he could do it. And

916
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: it's relative, and learning is relative, and it's so hard

917
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: because we're taught to compete. We're taught that it's like

918
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: some type of race and it's not. And that whole

919
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: mindset is how I ended up here because I never

920
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: I never attested to that anymore. It's like, no, you

921
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: do things on your time. Everybody's different. Everyone learns. Experience matters.

922
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: People's experiences affect how they see and learn. That. All

923
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: of that is very true, and so this stuff is

924
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: way more arbitrary than it is important, and it is

925
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: way more fluid than it is rigid. You know, because

926
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I never think of you as someone who ever thinks

927
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: of yourself as like inadequated anyway, I truly have never

928
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: thought like Sam j just like just has whatever assuredness

929
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: that she has. Well, the thing is, I'm assured in

930
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: the fact that I will have inadequacies. Yes, yes, it's

931
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: like what it is. Bro, Can I ask you when

932
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: did you when did you get in touch with your

933
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: sexual life than anyone? Did you come out? It's I

934
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: came out. I was twenty six really Atlanta, Atlanta. But

935
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: another example of just not knowing I could beat that

936
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: right because I was telling my my friend, we will

937
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: die laughing. I was like, when I was a kid,

938
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: this is why representation matters. The only thing I saw

939
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: of lesbians and I didn't know there wasn't lesbians around me.

940
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't like outwardly I could tell you lesbian lesbians

941
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: around me, like what lesbians mask sin a lesbian? They

942
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: weren't around me. So all I knew of lesbians was

943
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: to shoot us on TV, which was these like white

944
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: lily fair ladies with like believe in washing. And I

945
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not that. I could easily easily

946
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: threw that out. I easily threw that out. Eight I'm like, well,

947
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: that's not moving right at home, and also the the

948
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: the mainstream says like, well we have the representative moving

949
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: on you, you know what I mean at that time

950
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: for sure, So I'm like, whatever, that's not me. And

951
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: it's fucking easy to to I don't hate men, and

952
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't not attracted to men. So when you're taught

953
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: that that's what you're supposed to do, and then it's like, Okay,

954
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: this looks good to me. It was like, I'm straight,

955
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: this makes sense to me, you know what I mean.

956
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: And I and I had a boyfriend at the time

957
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: when I got around high school age and we stayed

958
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: together like five six years, which is a big development

959
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: for sure, and I loved him, you know, but also

960
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: he was there for me when my mom died. He

961
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: was like around, so I also realized the closeness came

962
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: from other things, right, And of course I didn't not

963
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: like having sex with him, but when we broke up,

964
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: I was just you know, dating around fucking dudes and

965
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, h this is not This isn't

966
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but this isn't it.

967
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: And I'm not finding that connection that you just know

968
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: when you know it, you know. And then I convinced myself.

969
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, maybe I'm just one of those

970
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: girls who just has to be in love to like dick,

971
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: and like I've just got too many the emotion. It's

972
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: more emotional for me. And you know whatever that dumb

973
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: shi it is that gay girls tell themselves. So I'm

974
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: doing all that because it's still not like you're gay.

975
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: That's not even in my head. Yes, that's not even

976
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: in my head. After you broke up with the guy

977
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: and this and this is so you're not even thinking

978
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: that that you're a lesbian as a possibility. No, no, no,

979
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm just like not feeling it. I'm not feeling it

980
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know why. So I'm just like fucking

981
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: more dudes. I'm like sucking different types of dudes. I'm like, well,

982
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: maybe it's a relationship. Let me build a relationship to

983
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: dude then funk them, like, you know, just trying to

984
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: figure it out. And like guys are liking me and

985
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: wanting to be with me, and I'm like I could

986
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: do this, but it's like it's not the thing. Right then,

987
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta, which is a very gay forward in

988
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: African American gay forward place and before I even got

989
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: to remember, being maybe fifteen the first time I went,

990
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: and now I realized such it was such an important moment.

991
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: I was fifteen, I went down to Atlanta with my

992
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: brother and that was the first time I saw a

993
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: stud what what we as a black culture considered like

994
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: a stud, which is like a woman a dresses masking, right,

995
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: and she had tims on jeans, jersey, she had a

996
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: fade and I was like, that's dope. I remember being fifteen,

997
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: and that like resonated with me, like for some reason, yeah,

998
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: that's dope. No, it was like no, it was like wrong,

999
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, because that's what you know what I mean. Like,

1000
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: but also it was like that's fly, so you know

1001
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: way that I would like to be flying, right, So

1002
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: you saw you saw aspiration in it, and also on

1003
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: a traction in that right right, Like that's flawed, right,

1004
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: and like that's how I feeling. Side is the only

1005
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: way I can explain it. Like always wear my brother's clothes.

1006
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm always like trying to be fresh. That's what I

1007
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: feel inside. Like even when I would tell two dudes,

1008
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: I would like mac on them and pick them up

1009
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, that's what I feel like when

1010
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the imagey myself, I'm like a cool nigga

1011
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: in the suit riding down the street. So when you

1012
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: were in your teens in early twenties though, where you

1013
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: kind of like being fem was, was there some sort

1014
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: of like that do there a little? Yeah? But it

1015
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even like it was just like being me, which

1016
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: was this real crazy mix of masculinity and femininity, right,

1017
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because now like there's people

1018
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: that know me then was like, bitch, I knew you

1019
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: was gay back then, I'm like, for real, because I didn't.

1020
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: You know, It's so crazy because for for I think

1021
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: I don't know about for you, but for maybe for

1022
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: a lot of gay men that I know, it wasn't

1023
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: this thing of gradually figuring out. It was like this

1024
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: visceral thing of like, oh, I like, man, I had

1025
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: eleven years old. I remember the moment like I saw

1026
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: my friends like bare back and I was like, I

1027
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: think that's what it is. You know what I'm saying.

1028
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: I was seeing titties my whole life. Women are always solved,

1029
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: you know, Like femininity is so much more elusive than

1030
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: like masculine. It's like, if you're not sure and it's

1031
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: not that clear to you, you can confuse it with

1032
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: a million things. Right now, I look back and I'm like, oh,

1033
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: I had crushes on all my female friends, but also

1034
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: this c is I just didn't even think you could

1035
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: like a girl like that. You were just like, well,

1036
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: this feeling I'm feeling is not a feeling, and so

1037
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: therefore I'm going to is just how like my mom

1038
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: is what her best like, that's just my super homie.

1039
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: I got love. But now I look back, I'm like,

1040
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: I never hung around ugly girls. I never wrong with

1041
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: ugly girls, like, oh it goes on with hell pretty

1042
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: this period talking about in between like dating dating guys

1043
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: and then like coming to that realization now, I feel

1044
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: like that's something that probably feels like it doesn't get

1045
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: talked about enough where it's like there is a latent

1046
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: period for a lot of people before they figure it out,

1047
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: but but not but after they've been intimate with like

1048
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: what they what they're, what their past selves were. There's

1049
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: just also not a discourse really even yet for lesbians,

1050
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: especially like black lesbians, you know, lesbians of color, you know,

1051
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: there's not there's not a lot of visibility, you know,

1052
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: there's I mean, I I bet like most white people

1053
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: would be like, well, orange is the new black is

1054
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: the one thing I have seen you. There was references either,

1055
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: like I didn't understand what it was for real, but

1056
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: I just knew, like the energy that I was seeing

1057
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: wasn't me. Now I'm in Atlanta, I'm messing with dudes,

1058
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: but it's so gay forward and and so black that

1059
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: I'm seeing like Studds a the Studds and they were

1060
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: bad bitches and they just in the street and like

1061
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: they just shopping and ship and like I'm like, okay,

1062
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: like this is like kind of and it's so weird.

1063
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: Before it was a sexual thing, it was such an identity. Yeah.

1064
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: So I was like when I listen to jay Z,

1065
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm jay Z, They're screaming at me. I'm like, what's

1066
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: wrong with you? Mom? You know. So it's like I'm

1067
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: now seeing real representations of that in the world, like

1068
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: you could live there, and it's like, oh, ship, now

1069
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: the sexual part has to come, you know what I mean.

1070
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like I didn't know that they existed,

1071
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: but seeing it for real. Yeah, And so what I

1072
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: understood if it was like it's so taboo that it's

1073
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: not a life, but then all the way you see

1074
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: it and you're like, no, they're living whole lives. But

1075
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: then you see all like the buttressing around the sexual

1076
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: stuff that you're like, oh, that has nothing to do

1077
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: with sex, but I still want that, right, And then

1078
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: it was like women are hitting on me and and

1079
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: she would use is like not really clicking. And one

1080
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: day I'm talking to about my good friend. I'm telling

1081
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: her about it, and She's like, just go on a

1082
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: date with one. And I was like, could I do that?

1083
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: She was like yeah, right. And so I was in

1084
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: chat rooms and ship I think how most people start

1085
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: being gay now. It was like there was like black ones.

1086
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: It was down link that was a black lesbian one,

1087
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: and then it was like a yeay who black lesbian

1088
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: chat whom I used to be in all the time.

1089
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: And that's when I first started like really flirting with

1090
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: women and like engaging in the idea of being sexual

1091
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: with a woman. Yes. Um, so this is taking me

1092
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: back here you were you weren't room queen, yes, And

1093
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: then you were just like talking to people when they

1094
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: were out of they were they weren't living in your city,

1095
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: were they. There was like all over the place, so

1096
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: people was in Atlanta, you know. And then like that

1097
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: was this girl, uh came my girlfriend before y'all know

1098
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: how long I was gonna ask how long was that relationship?

1099
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Like that first one, it was like on and off

1100
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: for like four or five years. I broke up with

1101
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: that girl, got with y'all, did y'all did some crazy ship?

1102
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: All right? I stopped when y'all got back with the girl,

1103
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: broke up with her again to be with you. Yeah,

1104
00:55:54,280 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: then yeah, did some crazy ship and three she was

1105
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: just like we like, we like, we like fun a

1106
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: few times after, but she really wasn't me after that. No,

1107
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: the girl kept dumping. She just didn't get y'all's hold

1108
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: over me and none of that. So she was out.

1109
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: And then I dated around, dated some chicks in Boston, um,

1110
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: you know. But me and y'all were still working off

1111
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: and on and all that. And then I hate y'all

1112
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: one day, like, yo, do you want to be with me?

1113
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: And not? Because I can't do this ship anymore? And

1114
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm still doing my things. So I

1115
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: did leave her from everything. Blocked to number got married

1116
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: maybe a year later, nine months, ten months, like turn

1117
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: to someone that you had in the intervening, did all

1118
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: that super fast because I was in such a like

1119
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: I was getting to where I wanted to be in comedy,

1120
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: and I was sucking, just feeling like, all right, how

1121
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: how am I going to be? This ship is so

1122
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: lonely bro. Probably is lonely bro. So I was feeling lonely. Man,

1123
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm out here just traveling by myself, don't got no

1124
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: one to call. All good ships happen and don't got

1125
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: no one to share it with, you know, call y'all.

1126
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: And she out doing whatever she doing, so she ain't

1127
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: answering because we ain't together, you know what I'm saying.

1128
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: So just feeling like, damn, bro, this sucks. This is

1129
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: not the way I want to do this. You so isolated,

1130
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: So it was like, well, this is the guy I

1131
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: want to be with. Let me just put it all

1132
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: on the table. But you know, so much back and

1133
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: forth between us, so much doing stuff and break my

1134
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: heart and then meet like so much craziness that it

1135
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, what are we doing? And if

1136
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: we're not doing it, then I need to like free

1137
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: myself of what this. I need to let this die.

1138
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: And at this point in time, you guys were both

1139
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: living in she was in Atlanta and I was but

1140
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: now yeah, so it was like I gotta kill this,

1141
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, just to to be free. So in the

1142
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, interim of that, I met my wife and

1143
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: she was I think, in the same space in a

1144
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Yeah, just you know, we're both around

1145
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: the same age, and just like I don't really want

1146
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: to be out here anymore. Like I don't even want

1147
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: to be out here like this no more. Bro. So,

1148
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: knowing all the risk of getting married quickly, both were

1149
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: kind of like, we're feeling it. Let's just go with it,

1150
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. Get married, bro. And then maybe

1151
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: six months later I get Common to watch I'm coming

1152
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: to New York and I had got married. That blocked

1153
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: off and her you think, so someone told her like

1154
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: I see SAMs Man on Instagram or whatever she called

1155
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: me from anybody didn't know, crying like what did you do?

1156
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: How could you do this? Like why why did you

1157
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: do this? I thought we were gonna be together and

1158
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk? I asked you? Bro? I

1159
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: put everything like, like what do you mean I can't

1160
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: hold my whole life up for you type. Yeah, like

1161
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm four real married. She's like devastated. Oh my god, devastated.

1162
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: So and I had to devastate you in a right

1163
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: absolutely so then I uh, but she's still blocked from everything.

1164
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm married, you know what I mean, I'm

1165
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: really like fulling I'm married. So she's still blocked from

1166
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: everything and all that. I get comics to watch. She

1167
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: ends up being in New York the same week for

1168
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week because she was doing makeup for

1169
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: the Victorious Secret. Not she was doing make it for

1170
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: the Victorious Fashion So she ends up there the same week.

1171
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 1: I'm there. So she hits me and she's like, would

1172
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: it be okay for us to just talk with friends?

1173
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: You know what i mean? Like, come on, I tell

1174
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: my wife. I'm like, she's me. She's gonna be this

1175
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: because I didn't want any funy stuff, Like I'm like,

1176
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: I want on funny stuff. I want you to see

1177
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: that she was dead. Think I was on some funny stuff.

1178
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: So I just found out she's gonna be what I'm

1179
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna be. Like, she wants to meet. It's like, I'm fine,

1180
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: with it. I'm fine with you going to have this.

1181
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: I tried you to have this conversation. Bro. So we

1182
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: meet at the seller. Oh my god, because I'm the

1183
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: dedication comes back. I was working, so I'm like maybe

1184
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: at the cellar, me at the cellar, like up there

1185
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: eating and she just starts pouring her heart out, bro,

1186
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: crying the whole bit, and that moment, I'm like, you're married.

1187
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm married. But I'm like, I love this girls. And

1188
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: also I'm like hating it because I'm like, oh, I'm

1189
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: never gonna not love this girl, bro, Like it doesn't

1190
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: matter what she does. Like me, why can't life be easy? Yes? Bro?

1191
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: Like fuck bro ship, but damn I love this girl

1192
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: because you do not love also your wife. It's not

1193
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: that it's something else cosmic, right, It's like ship, man.

1194
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: And it's also like I don't trust this girl. Man.

1195
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: She do this ship all the time. She's just doing

1196
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: this ship because I'm with somebody, and this is like

1197
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: did you tell her that? Yeah? I'm like, you know

1198
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: fucking funk that, you know funck that toxic shit. This

1199
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: is all the seller Aller Like, I hate you, brother,

1200
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We have such a fun, good it's antagonizing,

1201
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: but at the second I have to say, keep going.

1202
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: So man, I'm feeling all of the feelings, you know,

1203
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: but I'm also knowing, like you love this fucking girl.

1204
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Go back home, still not talking to her, still doing

1205
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: the thing. But it's not the same end. And partly

1206
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: part of that I take because my wife had to

1207
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: must have felt something on my spirit. Ain't know what

1208
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: she did, but part of it was like she was

1209
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: just crazy and stuff got crazy, you know what I'm saying.

1210
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: So it was like dual forces type ship. So she

1211
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: has one final spas out that I'm like, I'm good,

1212
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm done right, And at this point, y'all and I

1213
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: like talking periodically, you know what I'm saying. So I

1214
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: call y'all and I'm like, man, I'm done with this

1215
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. She's like whatever. I don't care, but you

1216
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: always you always say whatever, but like whatever, you know

1217
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It kind of like she's been keeping

1218
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: me at real distance at this point, Like when I

1219
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: call it, she's like, what's up, married woman, Like, you know,

1220
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: just being that. So I finally him like I'm done

1221
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: with this for real, and she comes and meets me

1222
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: in Arizona for good Arizona. Yeah, okay, that that is

1223
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: a tram. This is like I'm so invested, okay yeah yeah.

1224
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: And then um after that, I get back to my

1225
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: crib and it's like we're already we separated. You know,

1226
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping on a couch thing. It was already like

1227
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: we're not doing this, you know what I'm saying. And

1228
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: it blows all the way up. You know what I'm saying,

1229
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: goes crazy, like cops called all this type of crazy crazy.

1230
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: So the next day I get finally in touch with y'all.

1231
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: I tell everything that's happening. So she's like, mam my way.

1232
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: So she flies from Atlanta to l A. Comes I'm

1233
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: in an apartment. All I got is a fucking foot on. Bro.

1234
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: She took everything, My ex wife took everything. So there's

1235
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: a foots on and y'all in like a Bluetooth radio

1236
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: and y'alls just stuck in it with me. So why

1237
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: this is going on crazily. I'm going through the SNL

1238
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: ship that was right after God. So all this is

1239
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: going on, I'm going through the SNL ship. So I'm

1240
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: in a audition process now. So I've just done like

1241
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: l A showcase the day after all the police ship happened. Wow,

1242
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: because it was like that ship happened on a weekend,

1243
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: and then she was like a Tuesday that was I

1244
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: don't remember. I just said, did it like my I

1245
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: had just started looking regular because my ex wife hit me,

1246
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: So y'all's there, I go do this ship. I'm like,

1247
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: I think it went well. But we're also like talking

1248
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: about like what are we gonna do? She's like, am

1249
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: I gonna be here? Like what are we doing? D

1250
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: da da da. I'm like, I don't even know, like

1251
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be here, Like, you know, I don't

1252
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: want to get furniture. I don't want to do this

1253
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: place because what if I have to leave whatever. So

1254
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: we're kind of like in a like limbo of the space,

1255
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: and she also doesn't want to be in that place anyway.

1256
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: She's just like, I don't want to live in this craziness.

1257
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: You know, this is crazy. But I'm like, if I'm

1258
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: still in l A, I don't I can't afford to

1259
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: move anywhere, so this is where I'm gonna have to

1260
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: be type of things. So we were also having that,

1261
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: so we were all we were immediately like we're going

1262
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: to be living together. It was like we've been doing

1263
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: this ship too long to be doing something. When she

1264
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: came there that had to be like even if it

1265
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: wasn't vocalized, it was like that was a confirmation that

1266
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: was true girl, Right. So we're just sleeping off time,

1267
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: dugging through. I'm going through the court stuff, like I

1268
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,479
Speaker 1: had to put a straight out all this stuff doing

1269
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: the S and now ship. I'm like, man, let's not

1270
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: buy anything we don't know. I was like, I just

1271
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: want to be in a new space and new energy.

1272
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: It just start life fresh. Didn't get the call and

1273
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: it's like you come to New York and like three days.

1274
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, actually yes, because I have nothing. So I

1275
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: go two weeks before she like closed down the lesser fair,

1276
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: shut down apartment like I did all the least stuff,

1277
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: did all that stuff. So she was still there for

1278
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: another like two weeks just on a foodstone with nothing. Comes.

1279
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: We stay in the sheritton until we find a crib

1280
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: and then that was it. And then you got the job,

1281
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: and you got the job when you were when you

1282
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: were showcasing for testing for it, did you feel like

1283
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: it was likely because when you talk about representation. There's

1284
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: never been like I mean, like there's not I know,

1285
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: we talked about this with you too, because when when

1286
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: you were going through it, UM, it's that thing of

1287
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: when you don't see yourself on the show Vans, like

1288
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: there's no queer black women on that. Well, you know

1289
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: what I was like, so like I never cared about

1290
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: it before, So I tried to keep this like I

1291
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: never put it in. It was never in my plan

1292
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: because it didn't seem like something that fits me. So

1293
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm never like, oh, this is something I want to do.

1294
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: But once it became a opportunity, it was kind of

1295
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: like that's how I looked at it, like what could

1296
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: this opportunity to lead to? And like what could it do?

1297
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: You know? And it was and yeah for sure. And

1298
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: I also was just like board, I don't know, I

1299
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: go with the energy so much. So I was in

1300
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: l a bro. I was getting more of a comedy,

1301
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: like getting more stand up. I was writing stuff, and

1302
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: I had written this UM pilot and who was all

1303
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: into it And basically it was like giving me like

1304
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: a little development there to just developed the script while

1305
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of doing this, like I'm writing

1306
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: with somebody, but I'm not feeling good about its script. Bro.

1307
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like me, and it feels like

1308
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm letting everybody take too much control. But this is

1309
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: also because I don't really know anything yet. But I'm

1310
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: so green. I never real script before my life, so

1311
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm trusting everybody else. But I'm like, this ain't me,

1312
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: This ain't my. This sounds crazy, bro, just feels corny.

1313
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know exactly how to like fix it, right,

1314
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: So that's going on. I'm getting bored with stand up.

1315
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: This opportunity comes and it's like it just seemed like

1316
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: it was put there for a reason. It was like,

1317
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: this is not you could go this other way, take

1318
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: this show because they're probably gonna give it to you

1319
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: just because you black and gay. And and then like

1320
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: meaning like you know what I'm saying, like meaning like

1321
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: it's such an unrepresented thing that if you do this

1322
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: hacky thing and just it's explaining your existence rather than

1323
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: being your existence, they're gonna love it because like that's

1324
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: the type of ship they love. And that's what I

1325
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: felt like it was doing explaining myself is rather me

1326
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: just being And I'm like I just be on stage,

1327
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to just be in this

1328
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: form and but this isn't it. I know this isn't it,

1329
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: so then that's nothing. I'm just feels like right there

1330
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: at the right time, and it felt like if I

1331
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: walk away, then I'm doing myself a disservice and I'm

1332
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: gonna do the easier thing, go down this road, maybe

1333
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: this show where right stay a popular comic in l

1334
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: A getting shows whenever I want or go through this

1335
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: like really kind of scary thing that I've never done.

1336
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: I've never written a sketch. Yeah, I was gonna ask.

1337
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: So it's like maybe going to this world I've never

1338
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,879
Speaker 1: been in sketches, So it's like, do I just step

1339
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: with this kind of leap of faith? And this is

1340
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: where age and wisdom kind of informed that decision. I

1341
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: remember when I was in high school, I got an

1342
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Oberland College and I was for

1343
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: sure going to be able to go. There was a

1344
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: recruiter and I was like, I don't have good grades.

1345
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: It was like it doesn't matter, like we want you

1346
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: to school, like we'll work it out. We're you know,

1347
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: you're smart, you tested well all this stuff, and I

1348
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: didn't go. I didn't go because I was like, it's

1349
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: Ohio super white. Uh, they're gonna know stuff. I don't

1350
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: know what. It's all this stuff in bro, And that

1351
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: felt like that felt like another so that I felt

1352
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: like an echo boom where I was like, I can't

1353
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: do that to myself again. If God's put in this

1354
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: in front of me again and I do this again,

1355
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: then this is you have not learned me. So it's like, yeah,

1356
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: if you're great at stand up, now, this thing is

1357
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: not gonna make you bad at stand up if you

1358
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: care about it. You still don't care about your find

1359
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: a way to do it. You'll find a way to

1360
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: make it all work. And uh, if this makes you less,

1361
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: then something's wrong with you because all you can do

1362
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: in this situation is when sure, yeah what was when

1363
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: you got you got it? She was happy because she

1364
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: just wanted a new starts. She was just like, we

1365
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: don't have to live in this. Yeah, that's cool you

1366
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: got a new job because and here you talking about

1367
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: things that are not in your voice and that you

1368
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. It made me giggle because then immediately

1369
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: thought of stuff that you have written that I do

1370
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: feel like or your voice. I feel like I don't

1371
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: want to reveal the premises, but like the things that

1372
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: you've written that like really make me laugh. But Sam's

1373
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: Randa Japperwalkie sketch and she's Rando sketch about a game

1374
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: fire that may really make me laugh. And I pray

1375
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: to God that they see the light of day. Can

1376
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: I share this story because I was recently they had

1377
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: me to do some talk at some like management consultant

1378
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: firm this week. It was really it was great. It

1379
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: was a really good experience. But they asked me like, um,

1380
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: how do we talk about how do we talk about

1381
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: inclusion and the more like, you know, inclusion in a

1382
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: more inclusive way. Yeah, sure, one of those questions. It

1383
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: was a really really great question, and like I understood

1384
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: what she was trying to ask. Um. She was like, well,

1385
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: look like, how how have you felt included at work?

1386
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's tough or whatever. I was like, yeah,

1387
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: it's tough for everybody. It's not just specific to me

1388
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: or any other person. But my first week at SNL writing,

1389
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: do you remember this? Do you know I'm about to

1390
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: tell Okay, so do you remember Tucker and Keenan wrote

1391
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: this future for Keenan to play Quincy Jones on Update.

1392
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: Um and this is right after that Quincy Jones profile

1393
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: came out on the Nature. Oh that was you too, Yes, okay,

1394
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: that was that was you too? Great but but you

1395
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: come up in a story later too. But but is

1396
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: this right after Quincy Jones has had done an interview

1397
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: and Vulture about like all he could scious stories about everybody,

1398
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: and then see that this feature that was very rich,

1399
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: very rich, and then Keenan and it made it to air,

1400
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: right Keenan and Quincy Jones. It didn't fuck and it

1401
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: was you know, but it was so funny. It was

1402
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: so funny funny. But there there was one b where

1403
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: he's like me, it was like I forgot who the

1404
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: celebrities he goes, Yeah, me and Prince would go to

1405
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Japan and get our feet bound and go to a

1406
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: kabooky show. Yeah it was like that, right, yeah, So

1407
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: was this him saying like crazy crazy crazy thing like

1408
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: and there was just this reference to footbinding and then

1409
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: I literally and then I like it was at the

1410
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: re right table on a Saturday, and I was just

1411
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: I was so like meek and it was my speaking.

1412
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: I was so nervous that. I was like, but I

1413
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: feel like I should say something about this, because I go,

1414
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: I sort of like, I don't even raise my hand.

1415
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: I just go, there's a quiet moment, there's a law

1416
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: at the table. This is just how you get like

1417
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: your your piece that you like, you're saying, we're pitching on, yeah,

1418
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: we're pitching, and I just go. And this wasn't even

1419
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: a pitch. I just go. In case this matters. Foot

1420
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: binding is Chinese, not Japanese. And like the reference was

1421
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: that you went to Tokyo. I was like, for binding

1422
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: is Chinese and not Japanese. I was like, but like

1423
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: that's just that's just like information. And then you and

1424
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: Tucker and Keenan we're all like, thank you so much,

1425
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And you took that so there

1426
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: was no tension around that. It was just like so

1427
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: quick and seamless and good. And you guys received it

1428
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, great and then you guys like

1429
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: just cut that beat out, not the beat, just that joke.

1430
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: And then you came up to me at the after

1431
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: party and you were like, thank you for doing that,

1432
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: Like it just it just like it was just very

1433
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: important that you did that, and you and you really

1434
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: keep advocating for like what culture you represent, like all

1435
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: that stuff, and and it meant everything to me that

1436
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: you said that, because otherwise I of like not felt

1437
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: because so I brought that story up and to answer

1438
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: this person's question, it was like, I the more you

1439
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: can break down any barrier of like someone not feeling

1440
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: comfortable voicing a concern or someone not feeling empowered to

1441
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: say something like that's all that I knew, Like I

1442
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: knew he was feeling that, because who doesn't that situation

1443
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: that definitely you know, everyone's tense. Yeah, everyone's tense, and

1444
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: it's like and you you can't helpe, but you you're

1445
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: underrepresented and when you're going into energy, I don't and

1446
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand it unless you've been in

1447
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: the situation, right, People who are on outside looking in

1448
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: all was like, wow, why didn't they speak up things? Right? Right? Right?

1449
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: Well Bowen was there and then that Asian thing got

1450
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: through it. But also it's like what people don't understand

1451
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: is like when you're putting in those positions where you're

1452
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: where you're so underrepresented, you do feel a little bit

1453
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: of like I don't want to be that one that

1454
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: comes in and like makes everything an issue, and especially

1455
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: in a comedic space, well partially how we are funny.

1456
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: It's just the freedom to say with you don't want

1457
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: to be killing anything, You don't want to be killing

1458
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: any buzz or like you know, letting people get their

1459
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: ship off, becoming that energy. Well yeah, it's like it's

1460
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: that thing like when you put someone in the room.

1461
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: Everyone on the outside is like, well, they have that

1462
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: person in the room, so it's dealt with. But it's

1463
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: like you don't know what it's like to be that

1464
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: one person in the room because you have no one

1465
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: to the left that is saying I'm here also hearing you.

1466
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I just wanted to said it because

1467
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: that was the point. It was just like, as a

1468
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: person that has been there, don't feel weird about saying

1469
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: what you need to say if your thing is being misrepresented.

1470
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: But it's also all on the approach where it's just

1471
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: like I like, how to think about exactly about what

1472
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: I was saying in the words that we're going to

1473
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: come out of my mouth I said, and then I

1474
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: was like, this is the phrasing I'm gonna use, And

1475
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: then what I said was if it's important footbinding is

1476
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: this other thing? And then all you guys did was

1477
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: just cut out footbinding and then the jokes still work.

1478
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: It's still so freaking funny. It was like, yeah, like

1479
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones and Prince went to Tokyo and like did

1480
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: all this crazy show, Like that's funny. It's like yeah,

1481
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: And it's like and that's probably because that, even if

1482
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 1: it didn't matter to us, you need to feel represented

1483
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: in the room. You need to feel like a represented

1484
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: part of the process I was offering. I was just

1485
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: offering information that like could or could not be relevant

1486
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: to you guys as the writers of that piece. And like,

1487
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys, it was at your discretion absolutely to cut

1488
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: it or or leave it, and that and that's what

1489
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: was dope. You didn't make using what we had to

1490
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: do anything exactly. You just like, here's a piece of

1491
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: information that could help or not help. But now you're

1492
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: informed and what you decide to do that is up

1493
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: to you. And it's like you should definitely feel that,

1494
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: and you should, and and that's how when you're in

1495
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: the room, things like that don't happen. And get on

1496
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: TV or someone to say what was Bob, because that's

1497
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: the way to speak up and do it. And it's

1498
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: like and that should always be encouraged. And I think

1499
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: for that s and is a way more encouraging place

1500
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: and it gets credit for and way more supportive space

1501
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: than it gets credit for, in a way more supportive

1502
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: supportive space of different ideas in different culture than it

1503
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: gets credit for. For sure. Like we've got like like

1504
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: six queer writers on that stuff. It's like pretty cool.

1505
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: And like creators like last season it was like me,

1506
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: you Gates, James Julio, it was just like, oh, whoa,

1507
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: and like that's like a pretty age diverse, like race diverse,

1508
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: like gender diverse group. I was like, Oh, that's like

1509
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: that's like pretty great. I don't know. I do think

1510
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: it's a huge um deal and a big and a

1511
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: big big step forward for them to put LGBT people

1512
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: or more than one LGBT person on the cast. Yeah,

1513
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: I will say that. I think I think in terms

1514
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: of visibility, I think we're talking about we spoke about earlier,

1515
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: how you know it's there are people out there who

1516
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: just look up on the screen and they assume that's

1517
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: that that people saying is where it's coming from these

1518
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: kids that are going to see not only just Kate

1519
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: but also you on screen. Now, I mean, I think

1520
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: it's it has been a long time coming. But my damn,

1521
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: my damn hope is that there's space. And because I

1522
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: think it is a myth to say that, like, well

1523
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: there's not room for another just Gamian or another gay

1524
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: woman or transperson, like they're absolutely as like that. We

1525
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: do not cannibalize each other or the other. Okay, let's

1526
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: finally ask him the questions. Okay, Sam, what is the

1527
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: culture that made you say? Culture is for me like

1528
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: the cold like formative like piece of pop culture for you,

1529
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean pop culture cure or it doesn't have to

1530
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: be pop culture. He does something so specific to like

1531
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: the like the neighborhood you grew up in, Like it

1532
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: could be Boston, it could be like whatever general broad days.

1533
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: How much thinking too, because honestly I have telling that story.

1534
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: I have to say, seeing that lesbian in Atlanta, Yes, yeah, honestly,

1535
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: that is a moment at the moment did you know

1536
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: what did you ever see? Fun Home on Broadway? There's

1537
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: there's a song called Ring of Keys where a young

1538
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: lesbian who doesn't know she lesbian, yet sees someone who

1539
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: comes in and she's got like this ring with keys

1540
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: on it. She's a butcher lesbian and she's The song

1541
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: is about recognizing that you know that person, but you

1542
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: don't know how and how you're attracted to that person.

1543
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: You don't. It's a very specifically that pistillation of recognized

1544
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: recognition of sexual identity in yourself but in someone else

1545
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: that very similar. That's what you describe. Yeah, I'm saying.

1546
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: So she was in her jersey. Do you remember what

1547
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: the jersey? I remember it had to be like a

1548
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: um a ram, like a like a l A rams

1549
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: or some because it was like yellow window blue. Yeah,

1550
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: well maybe it might have been a yellow and blue

1551
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 1: food jersey. And it was like some phychology, so crispy

1552
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: as Tims. And she had a fade with a part

1553
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: part I always want to part, I always wanted to part,

1554
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: and I was a line or apart, like apart like

1555
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: yeah okay, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,

1556
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: And I was like that's dope. Yeah yeah. And then

1557
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: she stayed with you like she like I forgot seeing it.

1558
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: You forgot, never never forgot because I don't think I

1559
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: because it's it's really I get like jealous whatever not

1560
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: the right word, but I get jealous when people have

1561
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: that moments that they're like the kid, I don't. I

1562
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: don't think I have one. I just remember I had

1563
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: a friend come over and we were swimming in my pool.

1564
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: Were eleven, and then I was going to bed, and

1565
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I love my friend. I love when

1566
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: it comes over. I love his back. I want to

1567
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: touch us back. Oh. It was kind of this moment

1568
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: of like true light bulb moment of abject terror because

1569
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: it was like very similar to what you were saying.

1570
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, just I did not know a healthy, adjusted,

1571
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: adult gay person that wasn't a joke. Yeah, that wasn't

1572
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: like that's not a life. Yeah, this was like that's

1573
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: just some like what what whatever? Yeah, And it's like

1574
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: you can't and then and that's why it's so important,

1575
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: like just forced to be doing ship because I get

1576
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: damn after damn from like young Black Lesban is just

1577
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: like how did you do it? This is cool to

1578
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: see because it's just like there's no there was no

1579
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: identity of a career that wasn't like a construction worker,

1580
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm saying like I'm solved, I'm not

1581
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna be Well, it's because truly, it's like you don't

1582
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: you don't see you don't see any depiction of anyone

1583
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: leading a story or like kind of driving any narrative,

1584
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: let alone, you're getting to feel like you could drive

1585
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: your own narrative, because what the funk would that look like?

1586
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember like just the devastation, the primary

1587
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: devastation that I felt when I realized this was, well,

1588
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: I will not have a family. It was because I

1589
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: just did not understand how that could ever be a possibility, right,

1590
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: And it was because, you know, because it's like it

1591
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: was like as like this spinster lifestyle, like you couldn't

1592
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: there's no stability or one thing excluded the other. Yeah,

1593
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 1: and it's like not at all, you know, So seeing

1594
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: her for sure? And then right, let me think of

1595
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: like a pop culture movement. I think that's like pretty adequate.

1596
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: What was the music listen to when you were young?

1597
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: A lot of just hip hop like nineties, a lot

1598
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: of like Scoop Dogs. You mentioned jay Z before jay

1599
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: Z huge, huge, huge one like between jay Z and

1600
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: Kanye got me through. Sure, what are your thoughts on

1601
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: like Kanye, like how he's kind of like progressed like

1602
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: with with the situation that it is now you know

1603
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: what it's. I'm a big Kanya fan, and I think

1604
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: that he was a part of me. Is like he

1605
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: was always going in his direction. If you listen to Think,

1606
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: you think he's dropping hands early on. But even fun

1607
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: beginning to Kanye's music, it's always been very Christian influences.

1608
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean one of his first singles was Jesus Wokes

1609
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: Like he's always been like an Avid I'm a Christian,

1610
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: Like all his rap has some part of that in it,

1611
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: and the sounds were starting to you know, be that.

1612
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: I always argued that Life of Pablo is a gospel album.

1613
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a it's a it's a hood rap

1614
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 1: hard wrap, but it's a gospel album that is a

1615
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: praise album top to bottom, because it wasn't, yeah, because

1616
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: everyone like he's doing all this gospel stuff. Now he's

1617
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: been doing it since It's like Pablos got Beautiful Woe

1618
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: in it only became overt with something Jesus right, like

1619
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: that was the only time when it became like actual

1620
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: like thinking of himself and that. But even Registration day.

1621
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: It was like there were there were notes of that, right,

1622
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: So it's like it's not crazy to me as a

1623
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: true fan. Seems just right where he wanted to lame.

1624
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Remember when he got punked um and he was like,

1625
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: she tried to run off with his you know what

1626
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: set him off because the fucking guy that they planted

1627
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 1: who's part of the punked crew said the Lord giveth

1628
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: and the Lord taketh the way and that, and you

1629
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: see the change in Connie. He fucking flipped out. He's

1630
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: like and he takes it and he runs. He's just like, no,

1631
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: don't talk about religion. It's always been there. It's always

1632
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: been there. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't seem like elite, right.

1633
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: You know. His mental health and all that stuff is

1634
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: another thing, you know, and I can't speak to that,

1635
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: but it seems like even if people don't feel it,

1636
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: it seems like he's more balanced. Yeah, just just just internally,

1637
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: um jay Z. On the topic of jay Z, I

1638
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: feel like I have Maria or anything for letting jay Z,

1639
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: letting queer little queer boys be the entry port. See.

1640
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: I always knew of jay Z as a cultural figure,

1641
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: but then I think, yeah, honestly, when he was when

1642
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: he was on Heartbreaker, I was like, oh, now I

1643
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: like z me being the little fact that I was

1644
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 1: like literally trying to trying to like get Anny Mariah

1645
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: content I could. She was my first content concert too.

1646
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: I saw that Rainbow album. She got me through that

1647
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: break up, my first break up with my boyfriend that

1648
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: I have for a long time. Absolutely bit it was

1649
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: everything she has friends, She's got one of the best

1650
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: albums from I would say in my room and listen

1651
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: to it so much. My Michelle comes over, Michelle Slot

1652
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: come over, and Michelle is like, this is not your life.

1653
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: It takes the album. They forced me out because they're like,

1654
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: this is fucking crazy in a week later, which I

1655
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: was like, really, I took it because I just wanted it. Well.

1656
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: That album is Stay the Night, and that was that

1657
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: was I believe produced that. It was also say something

1658
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: is something we can forget it off on that album,

1659
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: never forget we want together together. It's like that. I

1660
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: think it's a very good first. It was a great

1661
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: to like, y'all keep coming for me for doing like

1662
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: black stuff bitch get off the album. Yes, yeah, it

1663
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: was such a good Also, Mariah is fucking funny which

1664
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: is something I like about Mariah is that she's funny

1665
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: and that I love that she really is g TF,

1666
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: I'll get the funk out, Like that's just a little thing.

1667
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: She's funny like and she she has her issues as well,

1668
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, at the heart of it,

1669
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy that we still have someone that's like trying

1670
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: to get better and trying to be honest. Finally he's

1671
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to still fucking exist in this damn and she's

1672
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: got to trying to erase her right. It's crazy. It's

1673
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: like I was talking to someone. I was like, Bro,

1674
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: Mariah carry made the first, Like we haven't had a

1675
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: new Christmas song, and how long centuries it's been. She

1676
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: is up there with the she's with domain. She's that's it,

1677
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: that will be playing forever forever. Like, come on, you

1678
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: can't just do people. That's what I don't like that

1679
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: when people just trying to like do people dirty, just

1680
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: like write people off. It's like, bro, like, and I

1681
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: guess when you do this as a career, you see

1682
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: it more. Were like you're gonna go mad ship, yes,

1683
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: but you're just gonna forget about the ship. That's why

1684
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: sleabries be crazy, like, why are You're just gonna forget

1685
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: about the ship I did, especially with women, and I

1686
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: think especially especially with a woman like Ryan, who's a

1687
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: biracial woman who probably struggled to find I'm sure. I mean,

1688
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 1: she's open about struggling to find a place her identity

1689
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: for her entire life, and then her musical identity in

1690
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of her career being sort of a Selene

1691
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: diond type, to then her transitioning to R and B

1692
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: music and being like not super accepted necessarily action of

1693
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: Mimi was like I'm gonna do black ship because it

1694
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: wasn't it was it wasn't super accepted. Mostly I feel

1695
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: about the white community, Like when she started hanging out

1696
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: with Dame Dash and Ship, it was like everyone was

1697
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: looking like she's stepping down, and it's like, bro, this

1698
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: is and that is not a step down. He's a

1699
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: part of the coach and he's a big part of

1700
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: And also you have to never forget that A lot

1701
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: of the reason why the first five or six years

1702
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: of her career were what it was is because she

1703
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: was married to the owner of her record label. Y'all, yeah,

1704
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: and you don't know the darkness that that was and

1705
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: I you know, what I will say is that she

1706
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: actually is finishing her book and that book is going

1707
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: to say a lot of ship. Book is going to

1708
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: say a lot. I No, I'm a lamb. I'm in

1709
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: the Lamily And I will say that that you will,

1710
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: truths will be revealed. And I also went when she

1711
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: what did for caution? She did like I was invited

1712
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: to go caution? Is it? But just real quick cause

1713
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking, abou this what what's crazy? Is on

1714
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: a flip with Justin Timberly worked with Timberland. That wasn't said?

1715
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: Does it like he's not even he's not even black

1716
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: at all? Let's not forget. It's like why when Mariah

1717
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: is messing, you know, messed with Dame and so I

1718
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: messed with Ja, It's like, what's happened? Because it's starlet,

1719
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. It's because she's a woman, and obviously,

1720
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: and it's because she's a biracial woman, and it's also

1721
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: because both sides. It's also because she's a woman who

1722
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: owns her sexuality and how dare she? And that's how

1723
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: people feel and the fact that Maria, almost thirty years

1724
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: into this, is still someone that we talked about. And

1725
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you know what, the reason you can never erase her

1726
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: from the narrative is because she writes her own ship

1727
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: and that is why like she she will constantly reinvent

1728
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: herself and like also stayed on brand. Mariah is what

1729
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: was your thinking about she went to the Caution preview

1730
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: or something I went to. There was a preview at

1731
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: Parcaution where she was kind of sat down and it

1732
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: was all lambs, and I mean, like the whole room

1733
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: was packed. So you were so excited and I was

1734
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: so so happy to be there and Maria's I sat

1735
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: with Mariah Smith and we were there and I was like,

1736
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: she came out and sat down and you could tell

1737
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: it meant so much to her that like people were

1738
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: respecting her and talking about her as a lyricist, her

1739
01:28:53,280 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: as a composer, as she has composed arranged like maybe

1740
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: we're a carrying the tub on. It's because not only

1741
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: is she this big personality, but she's also happens to

1742
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: be one of the best singers of all time. And

1743
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: people can't accept that you can be this larger than

1744
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: life personality and one of the best thingers of all

1745
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: time and and be this good and accept Again, it's

1746
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: like when you're on the outside looking and it's it's

1747
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: just like like watching football from your couch. When you're

1748
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: on outside looking at you said a lot like I

1749
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: was talking, um yeah about this. I was like, what

1750
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 1: I realized now and this is just a limited amount

1751
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 1: of times that I've been on camera. You cannot care

1752
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: about being on camera. There could be an amount, there

1753
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: could be so much like on camera nous that you

1754
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: don't give a funk. So people sometimes be like they

1755
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: wore that on TV and I'm like, yeah, because there

1756
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: wasn't TV, and give a fuck man, TV, bitch, they

1757
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: always on t V. So Mariah Carry did that on always.

1758
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: It's not for nothing. What are you talking about? Bro?

1759
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Like when you're like it's important to you, everything is relative,

1760
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: it's not important to do. She's got things to jumble

1761
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: about Cribs. Bit she showed up and had a good

1762
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:20,480
Speaker 1: time on Cribs and goddamn right, she's got a fucking practice,

1763
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, like cribs, Get the funk out of here. Also,

1764
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: never forget that the whole time she's juggling being the

1765
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: best singer of all time and maintaining that which thirty

1766
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: years and it might not be what it was, but

1767
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: it's still something. And so that the fact that she

1768
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: runs her own business as a songwriter, the fact that

1769
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: she has a brand to keep end not for nothing,

1770
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: but she is managing bipolar disorder. This is and and

1771
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: problems in her life and children, leave leave alone, Leave

1772
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: mariah Alone's um, this is the thing. And it's like

1773
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: what you're saying, like watching, Yeah, the pleaves and myself included,

1774
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching from the cheap seats for people

1775
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 1: who do like actual crazy. And the thing is like

1776
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like what you're

1777
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: doing it on any level and you can look in

1778
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: a little bit, you're like, whoa man? Like chill? These

1779
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: are just like people trying to like live like it

1780
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 1: just happens to be you do this thing like I

1781
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: missed the times like I missed, like it just being

1782
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: when you didn't know ship And I can't imagine when

1783
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: it was like like being Beethoven, because it's like no

1784
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: one knew he just played the ship. You come, he

1785
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: played the ship. He liked the ship like it go home,

1786
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 1: discussed the ship, but no one was like Beethoven sleeps

1787
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: with his brother's brother's friend gave a fun. No one

1788
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: gave a fun. It was probably a damn fag at

1789
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: some point. Number six nag. It was at some point,

1790
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: though I don't know what happened, And it's always gross

1791
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: to me out and it's maybe because I've grown up

1792
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: with like celebrity in my family, and but it's always

1793
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: bothered me that the public at some point I felt

1794
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: like they had rights to your life, not not your

1795
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: creative not not right to decide to support you creatively.

1796
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: You're not not a right to buy your music life,

1797
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: but right to your life, to your personal life, to

1798
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: your personal decisions, and they get to determine what those

1799
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: should and shouldn't be. And it's so wild and gross

1800
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: to me. It's like, how do you feel like you're

1801
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: old that? And then it's because they think they're old

1802
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: your success. They think your success is completely dependent on them,

1803
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: and they don't give any credit to the fact that

1804
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you had to do a bunch of ships for them

1805
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: to even see you. So it's like, what kind of

1806
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: nutship is that when you gotta go out and you

1807
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: gotta apologize for some personal ship you did in your

1808
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 1: house to a bunch of people you don't know because

1809
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: they're mad and they deserved it because without you there

1810
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: is no them. It's like the first celebrity of the

1811
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,440
Speaker 1: cow tail. Fuck you because you ruined it for everybody.

1812
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: You should have just told him to lick your ass,

1813
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: manya business body shit of don't. That's actually number four,

1814
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: number number nineteen. You should have just told them to

1815
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 1: lick your ass and don't and also leave Maria alone

1816
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 1: as a real culture number fifty leave honestly, like what

1817
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's aren't like the people that like they could

1818
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: A motherfucker could poison us with lettuce. That nigga don't

1819
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: gotta come on TV and be like, I'm sorry to know.

1820
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: We're just like, don't eat the lettuce, don't You probably

1821
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a mother frecker can poison us with lettuce, George,

1822
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: never think with lettuce. But there you are algy demand

1823
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: for Britney spirits who can barely lift her head up.

1824
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: Let her be let her be let her paint. There's

1825
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: some energy. We gotta move on. I don't think this

1826
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: is the one that a segment of lost culture is

1827
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: where we absolutely go off on something in culture that

1828
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: we're saying you thought so no, no, but this is

1829
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: the thing that we don't like no more. I want

1830
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: to say, I actually do have something, and this is

1831
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: a little bit off the beaten path, but I'm happy

1832
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: that it's finally being addressed. Okay, okay, I'm so happy.

1833
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this. This is Matt Rodgers. I

1834
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: don't think so many of your time starts now. I

1835
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Those urinals at the restrooms in

1836
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: the airport with the little flies on them. There's a

1837
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: little flies urinals. What the funk is that they're on

1838
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: all of them? I don't think so, honey, you're making

1839
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: me pee on a bug. I don't think so honey,

1840
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: that they're drawn so realistically. I almost and I really

1841
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: don't think sings only myself because I almost took a

1842
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: picture of the urinal, had my own piss in it

1843
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: to make sure that peop it would recognize what I

1844
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: was talking about. But if you are using male restrooms

1845
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: in the airport, I think at JFK N L AS

1846
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. It's these urinals, and

1847
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: inside the urinals on the thing that you pee on,

1848
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 1: which is a k A. The back of the urinal.

1849
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: There is a little fly drawn on every single one

1850
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: bone confirmed confirmed? What is that? I don't think so, honey.

1851
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 1: It has me thinking about like and now I'm aiming

1852
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 1: for it because it's there. I'm a very good aimer

1853
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: when I I don't think, so honey, this like this

1854
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: art artists on the urinal and I think, what is it?

1855
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so that you do aim and so

1856
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: that there's not a lot of splatter and backsplash. So

1857
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: they're trying to get me to target my piss. That

1858
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: train that you go to the side because doesn't fly around,

1859
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, but first of all, I didn't need that.

1860
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: I'm a civilized person. Stop my p fly around because

1861
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: if you're if you're pointing your dick like perpendicular to

1862
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: the actual surface, then then it's gonna splash back and

1863
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: then I have never had this. Cops, Jodian is gonna

1864
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: have to clean up a bunch of dried piss off

1865
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: the floor. That you understand, all this means you're piss

1866
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: is crazy. I mean, so you're a crazy uncut and

1867
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 1: people with four skin we can't control our aim as

1868
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: well as you met it be uncut. Thank you. I

1869
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. If I could go back,

1870
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 1: I would. I would. I would reach my baby hand

1871
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: up out of the damn thing and say stop it. Now,

1872
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: put that stop. I said stop. I said put the stop.

1873
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: I said now, I said put that put that snicker down.

1874
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, okay, I've got something. This is bone yangs.

1875
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. On this episode law Schools

1876
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: and this time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1877
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Mel at tone and bitch, you don't work, get a

1878
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 1: real job. You are not happening for me in the

1879
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: right possible ways. I take one of you. I take

1880
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: one little gummy knocks me out for four hours. I

1881
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: wake up the next day groggy as hell, can't fall back,

1882
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: can't fall back asleep because my hormone are like, nope,

1883
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: you've had enough. It fucks you up and it actually

1884
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: does more damage than it does any good. And melatonin,

1885
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't like this whole thing where you're like, oh,

1886
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 1: it's um, it's not dangerous. It's actually it's naturally produced

1887
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: by your body. No melatonin. If I can get you

1888
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: in gummy form, that means that you've you've done something

1889
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: bad in the world, and that my body does flushes

1890
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: you out and I don't actually need you. Let's we

1891
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: gotta break away from the gummies and this, this is this,

1892
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think about gummys in general. It cannot

1893
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: feel like candy or else. Kids will eat it and

1894
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: odeon vitamin C and fish with so um. I'm looking

1895
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: out for the children. Melatoninsted, you're done, melotonin. If you

1896
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: come for me in my family, I will sue. That's

1897
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: one minute, and I'm happy that you incorporated. I will

1898
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 1: sue you catchphrase. I think that you are correct. Melatonin

1899
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and I believe that every single melatonin is

1900
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 1: a placebo. That's what I have to say about that.

1901
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: You never feel great the next day. You never feel

1902
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: well rested, just melotonin. Thank you, Sam. Sam. Do a

1903
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: topic that you'd like to go off on, I don't

1904
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: know if I could go off there long. Yeah, you

1905
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: can just check out your We're we're stupid. We run

1906
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: out of steam like thirty seconds and then we just

1907
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: like yourself. But I mean, yeah, okay, great, So this

1908
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: is same, James. I don't think I have to you

1909
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: have to. You do have to. This is same, James.

1910
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, her time starts now. Okay,

1911
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. To the Popeye's Chicken sandwich, yes,

1912
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: I really I'm over this fucking sandwich. First of all,

1913
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: was kissing me off the games that pop Eye is playing.

1914
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: It's like, you're a fucking chicken business. You don't got

1915
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: enough sandwiches, bitch, that's just chicken and bread. Were like,

1916
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: what is the deal that y'all wanted this thirst over

1917
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 1: the set? Like Popeye's is jerking off over the that

1918
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: people are like stabbing, Yes, are like rolling people over,

1919
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: are like being crazy over the sandwich, And like, I

1920
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, to the white man that runs popeye'es,

1921
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted niggas to look crazy over some chicken.

1922
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate it. It's absolutely fucking ridicul it is,

1923
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: and it's like also probably not even good, Like I

1924
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: had one when it first came out and it was

1925
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: straight but not enough to kill anybody, not enough to

1926
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: kill anything over it. It's video after video, people just

1927
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: acted insane. So white dude went inside the Popeyes y'all

1928
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: everybody called them a nigger oh the sandwich. Then they

1929
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: beat him up outside, took the sandwiches from them. It's like,

1930
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: it's this where we are America, and we wonder why

1931
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: this ship is going on. We need to let the

1932
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: Russians take this bitch. We don't know what we're doing,

1933
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: so let me tell you the stabbing stabbing This week,

1934
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 1: someone in line stabbed someone over the sandwich. And then

1935
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 1: we're like, and we want respect around the world, like

1936
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: people are dying for real reasons, and we're like, you know,

1937
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 1: we need a sandwich, do we genuinely? It's just raised

1938
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: generally prefer the chicken from Popeyees over the chicken from KFC.

1939
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I think they can't see went

1940
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: way left. What happened to CAFC was when they said

1941
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: that they was growing the chickens in the lab and

1942
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: they was making like and they showed that crazy looking

1943
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: chicken and everyone was like, we good, were actually okay

1944
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: recovered from that rumor. It was like probably not even true,

1945
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay. You can't have a white man sell

1946
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: like the face of a white man sell your chick

1947
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: That lady I hate the Popeye's lady. I don't know

1948
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: the poo's the Popeye's lady when she just oh, I do.

1949
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: I do like it and I hate her as a person. Lord, Lord,

1950
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: get her off. The Popeyes has bettered potatoes than any

1951
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: other players. It was that like she could just still

1952
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: be normal, like I can't. I don't get why the

1953
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 1: let just can't come on and Papas has a great chicken.

1954
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: You know what does she do? Honey? You want you know?

1955
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: It's like like w B frog shit like w frog? Um?

1956
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: Well this, Yeah, you're totally right. It's artificial scarcity. It's

1957
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: like when they purposely make something scarce so that there's

1958
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: more buzz. Yes, it's like people, Papas, y'all be in

1959
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Jordan right now when we were shooting Nova Speakers. You

1960
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: gotta do better, you Jordan. The sandwiches, get the people,

1961
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: the sandwiches on um. Sam has canceled me on the

1962
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: internet for I'm ordering chick fil A at the Writer's

1963
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: every Yeah. Well, I have to say I can confirm

1964
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: that there are days when Bowen looks me in my

1965
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: eyes and wants to go out of our way to

1966
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 1: go to and I'm saying to him, now, well, it's

1967
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: a Colorado thing because I don't do that so we

1968
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 1: can all overcome our past. I'm not gonna. I'm canceling,

1969
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: cancel culture on both of you. Okay, you don't eat it.

1970
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: Let Oh no, they're closed. You have to do that though,

1971
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: because you white reparations, my nigga, you need to abstain.

1972
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: But like you already gotta take somebody else not getting

1973
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: up chicken, you know my stuff. I gotta give up

1974
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: just being black. I'm not giving chicken for that. One

1975
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: can stuff. No boom, you're alone. You're supposed to You're

1976
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: supposed to fight the chickenl like this is your fest.

1977
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: I'll take it, honest. I'm getting my lemonade, my fries.

1978
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: If Top Eyes can't get it together, I understand you.

1979
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: This has been a fantastic I love this episode. I

1980
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 1: love being here. Um we closed every episode with the

1981
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 1: song heartbreak. You've got the best of me, But I

1982
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: just keep off coming back and sessh did you have

1983
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: to run your game? I should have known right from

1984
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: the start, go and bring what. Give me a love? Love,

1985
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Give me a love. We love you, Mariah, We we

1986
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: we stand. We won't leave you alone by This has

1987
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Brett Baum,

1988
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey For more original podcasts, please

1989
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1990
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