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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. We are moving on this week. I

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Speaker 1: swear this week's regular episode isn't about Joseph Paul Franklin

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Speaker 1: or Willie Muther Peers or the Turner Diaries or any

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Speaker 1: of that. I promise we're done with that for now.

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Speaker 1: But before we leave them behind, I just had to

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Speaker 1: tell you one more thing, just a quick note. Earl

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Speaker 1: Turner was a real guy, kind of anyway. Timothy McVeigh

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Speaker 1: blew up a federal building trying to imitate Earl Turner.

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Speaker 1: Robert Matthews formed the Order in an effort to bring

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Speaker 1: the novels events to life. But before any of that,

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Speaker 1: before the book was published, there was a real Earl.

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Speaker 1: William Luther Pierce named almost every character in his two

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Speaker 1: novels after people he knew in real life, and Earl

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Speaker 1: Turner was no exception. I'd always read that Earle was

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Speaker 1: the name of his secretary in the early National Alliance days,

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Speaker 1: but that's all anyone ever said, Earl who Surely there's

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Speaker 1: an answer to this question. The name turned out to

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Speaker 1: be not that hard to find, although the man himself

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Speaker 1: has proven to be a little more elusive. His name

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Speaker 1: was Earl Woosley Thomas junior. He died in Maryland in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, just a few months shy of his

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Speaker 1: eightieth birthday. Earle joined the American Nazi Party in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties when he was a young man in his twenties.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you exactly what year he joined, but

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Speaker 1: I suspect he was very deeply involved by nineteen sixty five.

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Speaker 1: A story shared by one of his old associates describes

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Speaker 1: an incident in which Earl and another Stormtrooper were arrested

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Speaker 1: for spraying red paint on some anti war activists, but

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Speaker 1: the charges were later dropped. It doesn't say when this happened,

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Speaker 1: or where or who was sprayed, but that is a

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Speaker 1: significant number of specific details. Right, two arrested, charges dropped

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Speaker 1: red paint, anti war protest and I found one incident

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Speaker 1: that matches those details. He was in August of nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty five. Newspaper accounts don't actually name the two Nazis

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Speaker 1: who were arrested, and neither does the issue of Stormtrooper

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Speaker 1: magazine that describes the incident. But the men who were

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Speaker 1: soaked and paint are actually very famous. Labor lawyer Stawton Lynde,

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Speaker 1: student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee leader Bob Moses and pacifist activist

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Speaker 1: David Dellinger. I suppose it is possible that Earl through

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Speaker 1: paint on a different Pacifist on some other day, but

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Speaker 1: that was the only story I found that fit. Later

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Speaker 1: on in his career as a Nazi, Earl was one

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Speaker 1: of several longtime members who left the organization with William

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Speaker 1: Luther Pierce in nineteen seventy after his big falling out

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Speaker 1: with Matias Kale, the man who took over the party

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Speaker 1: after George Lincoln Rockwell's death. Between accounts from former members

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Speaker 1: and references in FBI files, it looks like Earl worked

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Speaker 1: for William Luther Peers for a few years after that,

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Speaker 1: following him from the National Socialist White People's Party to

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Speaker 1: the National Youth Alliance and staying on with Pierce as

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Speaker 1: he founded the National Alliance in nineteen seventy four. H

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Speaker 1: Michael Barrett, Earl's roommate from his American Nazi Party days,

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Speaker 1: has written on several occasions that Earle quote got out

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Speaker 1: of politics after that. That's not entirely true, but I'm

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Speaker 1: still working on nailing down the specifics of exactly how

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Speaker 1: terribly untrue, that is, but this old Nazi roommate of

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Speaker 1: Earls did supply by way of his long online posting history,

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Speaker 1: some of the details I needed to confirm other things

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Speaker 1: about Earl, like his career in publishing. Earl W. Thomas

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Speaker 1: Junior is the American copyright holder on two English translations

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Speaker 1: of works by the infamous French Holocaust denire Paul Rossigner.

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Speaker 1: Under the pseudonym Wayland Smith. He holds a copyright for

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Speaker 1: a text called Richard Wagner Alberic Loki and the Jews.

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that is, but a copy

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Speaker 1: of it is held in a collection called Anti Semitica

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Speaker 1: at the University of Florida's Special Collections Library, so we

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Speaker 1: can guess. The pseudonym Wayland Smith is obviously a bit

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Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. It's a reference to an unfinished opera

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Speaker 1: libretto by Wagner based on the Germanic folk legend of Wayland,

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Speaker 1: the Blacksmith. Earl's publishing company, Bibliophile Legion Books, published one

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Speaker 1: of his own books too, an out of print text

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Speaker 1: called The History of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich.

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Speaker 1: In postage stamps and postal stationary. It sounds thrilling, and

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Speaker 1: I did try to find a copy, but I came

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Speaker 1: up empty. All I found were some old Usenet posts

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Speaker 1: in a group for people who collect postage stamps from

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Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, and they were complaining that the book is

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Speaker 1: impossible to find. Curiously, in an interview given by Barrett

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Speaker 1: that old roommate of Earls, Earl is described as a

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Speaker 1: federal employee. I know he was in the Air Force

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Speaker 1: in the early sixties. I doubt he stayed on in

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Speaker 1: the military, but if he moved to the DC suburbs,

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Speaker 1: maybe he did work for the federal government. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what kind of work he did, or for how long,

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Speaker 1: or if H. Michael Barrett is even telling the truth here,

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Speaker 1: But if Earle worked for the government, that would explain

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Speaker 1: why his name is completely absent from old party newsletters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he was an original card carrying member

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Speaker 1: of Rockwell's American Nazi Party and he'd been arrested in

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Speaker 1: never shows up in an issue of Stormtrooper magazine. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't find a trace of him if he were trying

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Speaker 1: to stay off his employer's radar, though. That makes a

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Speaker 1: little more sense, and that might be why it's been

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Speaker 1: such an uphill battle to find much of anything about

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Speaker 1: who Earl Woosley Thomas Junior was. Outside of his filings

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Speaker 1: with the US Copyright Office. He's a bit of a ghost.

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Speaker 1: According to H. Michael Barrett, though Earle loved Bruce Lee movies,

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Speaker 1: the only record he could remember Earle buying during the

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Speaker 1: years they lived together was Simon and Garfunkele and Earle

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Speaker 1: loved tuna casserole. He loved it so much that Barrett

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Speaker 1: could recite Earl's recipe from memory even decades later. He

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Speaker 1: apparently preferred his canned tuna packed in oil not water.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of blank spots in the notes

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Speaker 1: I've started for Earle. I'll probably come back to him

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Speaker 1: one of these days. Maybe there are some clues in

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Speaker 1: the novel he wrote. Back in the nineteen seventies, William

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Speaker 1: Luther Pierce borrowed Earl name for the protagonist of The

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Speaker 1: Turner Diaries, a novel Pierce published under a pseudonym, and

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Speaker 1: just two years before Earl Thomas died, he published a

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Speaker 1: novel of his own under a pseudonym, And I'm waiting

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Speaker 1: for my copy to come in the mail. Just a

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Speaker 1: quick announcement before you go. I'm planning on doing another

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Speaker 1: Q and A episode soon, hopefully in the first week

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Speaker 1: of May, so I can take a few days off

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Speaker 1: to celebrate my first wedding anniversary. You guys were so

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Speaker 1: patient with me last year. You endured two reruns in

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Speaker 1: a row while I got married and took my honeymoon.

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Speaker 1: I don't plan on making a big deal out of

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Speaker 1: it every year. Don't worry. It's just kind of special

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Speaker 1: the first time you have an anniversary. You know. I

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Speaker 1: don't intend to make you listen to a rerun this

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Speaker 1: time around, but a fun little Q and A episode

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Speaker 1: gives me a little breathing room. And you guys always

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Speaker 1: have so many more questions that I know what to

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Speaker 1: do with, and some of them are really fun. So

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