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Speaker 3: Blazing five, hitting on a fifty eight percent clip. That's like,

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Speaker 3: what mob guys do? I mean? That is really Rowland

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Speaker 3: fifty eight percent clip, Blazing five in one hour. Urban

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Speaker 3: Meyer College football talking a couple hours. Well, Jmac, I

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Speaker 3: know it was windy, oh in Denver. But ten first

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Speaker 3: downs and eleven penalties not great for your guy, not

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Speaker 3: great for bon Knicks. So if Sean Payton is your

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Speaker 3: head coach, PFF says, you have the best offensive line

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Speaker 3: in football. It's the Raiders defense. You have two very

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Speaker 3: capable running backs, good wide receiver court great, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Good you gotta do better than ten first downs right now.

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Speaker 3: This team has ten more punts this year than Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, bow Knicks looks nervous. That's why he's

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Speaker 3: so bad in the first half. It's like he's trying

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Speaker 3: to please Sean Payton. Feels the weight of the world

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Speaker 3: on his shoulders. He is nervous, side arming stuff, feels

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Speaker 3: backfield like I get throws downfield. We're tough last night

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Speaker 3: for Bold quarterbacks. It was windy. Denver gets that way.

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Speaker 3: We're moving into the winner. But it shouldn't look like that.

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Speaker 3: He looks nervous. He looks like he's got a lot

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Speaker 3: of anxiety. And he only plays well most of this year.

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Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter, when he trails and has nothing

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Speaker 3: to lose, he just lets it go. Sean Payton now

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Speaker 3: is trying to protect Bonnicks, and so he's making some

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Speaker 3: odd compensation calls, like that double pass on third and one.

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Speaker 3: It's just a bad call. Well, Sean Payton didn't get dumb.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to protect him. He knows that bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: is not right upstairs. And because this Raider defense hasn't

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Speaker 3: made any quarterback look that bad this year. So the

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Speaker 3: Broncos have one touchdown in their last seventeen drives. They

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Speaker 3: have more three and outs than the Titans. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: I'm dead serious here. Sean Payton is a very impatient guy.

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Speaker 3: He also understands the urgency at quarterback, unlike a lot

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Speaker 3: of coaches in this league. I wonder because the roster,

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Speaker 3: the O line, set the D line, set the pass

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Speaker 3: rush the receivers. With Sean Payton draft another quarterback, I'm

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Speaker 3: dead serious. Bow Knicks has regressed badly. His completion percentage

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Speaker 3: is now towing that backup quarterback line from sixty six

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Speaker 3: mid nineties to mid eighties. He's going to have more

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Speaker 3: turnovers this year. Again. He is a significantly worse quarterback

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Speaker 3: this year than last. And I understand quarterback development is

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Speaker 3: not linear. I think it was Peyton Manning who suddenly

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Speaker 3: had a really bad fourth year in the league. I

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Speaker 3: get it, you lose a coordinator, you lose an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: But this old line's great, and we thought with bow

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Speaker 3: Nicks he was one of these high floor, low ceiling guys.

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Speaker 3: We knew he didn't have like Caleb Williams horsepower, but

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Speaker 3: like b b Ish. This is the Ish, that old

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Speaker 3: Denver's defense is staggeringly good and aggressive. So bow Nicks

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Speaker 3: on average is getting much better field position than quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: got seven straight weeks of this stuff, and that last

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Speaker 3: So now Kansas City comes up off a bye. I

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Speaker 3: Defcom three here, what's Defcom three increase readiness. I'm I

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Speaker 3: behind this group, this coach, this line, look at that

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Speaker 3: Raiders are a lost franchise. Here's bonecks. After a messy performance.

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Speaker 4: You'll win a lot of games to the defense playing

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Speaker 4: scoring points. I've been booed before and I'll be booed again,

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Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna be the last time. It's obviously unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: I know the wind was bad, it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk Raiders briefly. When you pursue Geno Smith, the

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Speaker 3: Raiders gave up a third round pick and paid him

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Speaker 3: sixty six million guaranteed. The Seahawks got Sam Darnel for

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Speaker 3: no picks he was a free agent, and only pay

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Speaker 3: really good personnel guy. The Raiders they overpaid, over pursued

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Speaker 3: Geno Smith, who once again leads the NFL in picks.

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Speaker 3: I mean he can't figure out basic pass protection. It's

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Speaker 3: it's I mean, it's it's bad. And right now you'll

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Speaker 3: be the worst quarterback in the league. The last two years,

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Speaker 3: Geno Smith has seven more interceptions than the next highest

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Speaker 3: You should never settle at quarterback. It's another to pursue

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Speaker 3: the wrong one. And I understand sometimes you draft, we're

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Speaker 3: You got a lot of tape on me. You got

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Speaker 3: a lot of tape on Geno. You gotta know, after

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Speaker 3: and what a guy isn't. The smart gms are not

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Speaker 3: pursuing pursuing surrendering a third round pick the Raiders could

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Speaker 3: have had Donald. Nobody in the world thinks Gino's better

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Speaker 3: As far as I can tell, I don't have the game.

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Speaker 3: Film is open on every play. How does he have

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Speaker 3: one reception? I don't even understand it. So Pete Carroll

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Speaker 3: had a full year away from football to modernize, to reflect,

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Speaker 3: and he went back to Geno Smith. That ain't good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, your go at, that's old school Geno Smith

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Speaker 3: twenty seven picks in the last two years, seven more

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Speaker 3: not like Gino didn't have a resume. You didn't need

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Speaker 3: You could have gone to last year. And Pete had

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Speaker 3: a year off to reflect. I offensively, I don't even

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Speaker 3: know what the Raiders are. Here's Pete after that's one points.

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Speaker 7: The running game would have helped us in that regard,

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Speaker 7: but Chip was trying.

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Speaker 8: on us, and so yeah, we gut score more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you never want to settle at quarterback. A lot

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Speaker 3: of these defensive coaches, they're like, ah, Sam Howe, Mitch Trubisky.

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Speaker 3: It's another to pursue sixty six million guaranteed in a

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Speaker 3: third round pick, to pursue Geno who's been in the

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Speaker 3: league forever and is a turnover machine. So you kind

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Speaker 3: of earned your spot in fourth place. Denver's a different story.

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Speaker 3: Bonix was young. It's college, good rookie year. You think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna grow. Something's happened. He looks nervous. That's a

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Speaker 3: different feel. You do feel like, how do they right

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Speaker 3: the ship? It was so ascending last year. Raiders are

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Speaker 3: just why how j Mac? We have ourselves a weekend?

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Speaker 3: I tell you something. I had this discussion with Danny

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Speaker 3: Parkins at the network yesterday. Sometimes we in the media,

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Speaker 9: Are you talking about the Raiders and Beef Caroll? I mean, listen,

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Speaker 9: you kenn of given pet Carroll. There's a veteran coach

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Speaker 9: who's like we could win. Now, let's bring in Geno Smith.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is kind.

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Speaker 7: Of a disaster.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to say Pete Carroll's won and done

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Speaker 9: there in Vegas, but Colin, I mean there's a veteran coach.

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Speaker 9: They look awful, like genuinely bad. People are close to

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Speaker 9: Pete Carroll, He's well respected of the media. Is he

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Speaker 9: coaching this team next year?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean the Raiders make a lot

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Speaker 3: know what is winning in this league, young offensive coaches.

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Speaker 3: We know what's not winning as much and creating some

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Speaker 3: angst older defensive coaches, Tomlin, Pete McDermott, right, Like, we

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Speaker 3: So that's why I've said for the Miami Dolphins, I

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel knows offense.

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Speaker 9: So the Raiders they need a lot of things. And

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Speaker 9: that Ashton gent Pick. I don't I can't say anything.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: know what to make of it. I can't blame him

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Speaker 3: because the old line's a tragedy.

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Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, they're missing Miller, but you know, Jami

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Speaker 9: They're getting the ball in space, they're doing things. Jen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the old lines everything on offense. Brock Bowers

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Speaker 7: It wouldn't catch on three targets.

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Speaker 3: I believe what I know. It's a lot of what

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Speaker 3: blazing five fifty eight percent? Clip? What the staffs?

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Speaker 3: I forgot last week? A little bumpy?

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, you know I'm familiar with bumpy.

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Speaker 3: Well what a life it is for Chicago Bear fans.

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Speaker 12: This is the Herd Line news.

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Speaker 3: And get back to basics.

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Speaker 13: Bounce back by just coming back in the building, getting

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Speaker 13: And uh you know, like I said, we just got

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Speaker 9: Breakdowns of what the Panthers did to Jordan Love, and

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Speaker 3: like about once a week there's a game I want

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Speaker 3: So that's the number. Hard to bet against. Philadelphia and

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Speaker 9: Micah knows Jalen Hurts very well, knows those tendencies from

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Speaker 3: I like packers here.

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Speaker 9: All right, let's go to the second story here, Colin,

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Speaker 9: I don't know what the hell's going on with my

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Speaker 3: This is just strange.

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Speaker 9: He hasn't played since Week four. They didn't put him

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Speaker 11: I think we're definitely being more aggressive with them as

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Speaker 5: That last week.

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Speaker 11: And he's definitely getting better each week, head in the

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Speaker 11: Brock's definitely getting closer.

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Speaker 3: So you're confident that we we'll see him again this year.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I'm pretty confident you'll see him this year.

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Speaker 3: Well, would hope? Pretty content? How about this? The offense

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Speaker 9: Problem is, last time we saw San France against a

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Speaker 7: Why didn't they put him in Rock Purty on ir.

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Speaker 9: Those that's showing up roster spots Skyland for five weeks

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Speaker 3: They have so many injuries they didn't make a move

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Speaker 3: Shanahan's take is, I want my guys fully healthy for

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Speaker 7: They're hopeful.

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Speaker 9: story college football, Now, this one's spicy. You like this guy,

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Speaker 3: he's a good offensive coach? Okay, so was Brian Kelly. Well,

429
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Speaker 3: old and grumpy doesn't necessarily want to put the time

430
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Speaker 3: into recruit so okay.

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Speaker 9: So Lincoln Riley maybe, Okay? Does he fit at Penn State?

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Speaker 3: Well? Fit? It's same conference here When I saw that, Well,

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Speaker 3: first of all, I trust Josh implicity, I'm not so.

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Speaker 3: My take on this is USC has gotten, has spent

435
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Speaker 3: a lot of money in nil a lot of money

436
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Speaker 3: in facilities, a lot of money on the staff, a

437
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Speaker 3: lot of money on the GM, and this roster has

438
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Speaker 3: very few elite players, very few. They're just now waking

439
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Speaker 3: up to the fact that LA actually has really good athletes.

440
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Speaker 3: They didn't recruit it for four years. So I think

441
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Speaker 3: there's some discomfort the fact that they're sub five hundred

442
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Speaker 3: on the road and many of their losses are to

443
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Speaker 3: Maryland and Minnesota. And then you know, last year an

444
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Speaker 3: average Michigan team in illinoy and I'll I'll be honest,

445
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Speaker 3: if Penn State came and said, boom, here's the check

446
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Speaker 3: and USC didn't have to pay in some sort of buyout,

447
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Speaker 3: could possibly at the end of the year if they

448
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Speaker 3: get clobbered by Oregon and it does they lose a

449
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Speaker 3: you know, the last game. I don't know. All i'ms

450
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Speaker 3: I'm not making. What I'm saying is Josh Pace is

451
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Speaker 3: well connected. There's not a lot of guys out there.

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Speaker 3: If Lane Kiffen takes an NFL job or stays at

453
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Speaker 3: Old Miss and doesn't go you tell me the Vanderbilt

454
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Speaker 3: guy everybody loved, but really Barkley, he's amazing.

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Speaker 9: Oh okay, amazing, Okay, so my day. So I've been

456
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Speaker 9: in this long enough. You know, in the media, you

457
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Speaker 9: get fed stuff. You got people talking to you when

458
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Speaker 9: I say stuff here on the show that's.

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Speaker 7: You know, forward thinking people could.

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Speaker 9: Say, oh, I listened to his pod. I listened to

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Speaker 9: the show closely. I know where j Max getting that from.

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Speaker 9: I don't know Josh as well as you do, but

463
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Speaker 9: I'll just say this. If I'm Lincoln Riley and I'm

464
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Speaker 9: watching all these buyouts happen around.

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Speaker 7: College football, I'm in his camp.

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Speaker 9: I'm floating this, Hey keep Lincoln's name out there in case,

467
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Speaker 9: like you said, they get smashed by Oregon and the

468
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Speaker 9: USC boosters say this is not good enough, let's buy

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Speaker 9: him out. Let's I think this is Lincoln Riley, his

470
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Speaker 9: camp hedging his bet.

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Speaker 3: They're not dissatisfied with Lincoln.

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Speaker 7: Well, if they get smashed by Oregon by thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yes, then I think you look in the mirror and

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Speaker 3: go four years in. What are we? That's what I've

475
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Speaker 3: said with USC. What's the there there? I know he's smart.

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Speaker 3: I compare him to Matt Lafleur. I know he's young, smart,

477
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Speaker 3: good play caller, liked by players. I don't know if

478
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Speaker 3: the CEO thing is perfect. I kind of feel both

479
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: get prickly. They can be a little defensive, but I

480
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Speaker 3: know they're both smart and capable. Matt Lafleur would be

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Speaker 3: on the job market and fired. In a minute, he'd

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Speaker 3: get a job. Lincoln Riley would get hired in a minute.

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Speaker 3: He's he has done an unbelievable Offensively, they don't have

484
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Speaker 3: their they're using a walk on running back, a walk

485
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Speaker 3: on on the offensive line. They really are. They've got

486
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Speaker 3: some nice receivers and a good left tackle, but they're

487
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Speaker 3: young everywhere, and their star right now is a former

488
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Speaker 3: UNLV quarterback and a walk on running back. So I

489
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Speaker 3: think he's a really good coach. But they spent a

490
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Speaker 3: lot of money in this program, and everybody at USC

491
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Speaker 3: they kind of look down at Oregon still. They're like,

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Speaker 3: it's Oregon.

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Speaker 9: You know, the USC booster crowd is a little nutty.

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Speaker 9: I mean the college football the well I think always.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you're writing five million dollar shecks, is

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Speaker 3: it nutty or demanding? Well were they before.

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Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley got here?

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Speaker 14: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I think he's done a pretty damn good job.

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Speaker 3: If they had beaten Illinois and they had their chance

501
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Speaker 3: go either way game at the end, had they beaten Illinois,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you'd hear these rumors, but I do.

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Speaker 9: Think they wouldn't move off him. I'll just say this.

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Speaker 9: He's not Jim Harbaugh, obviously, but with Jim Harbor.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't move off him either.

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Speaker 7: Multiple years people were like, get him out of here.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't move off of me. Just be patient.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I'm the Brian Kelly thing. I got grumpy, weird fit,

510
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Speaker 3: didn't want to recruit older.

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Speaker 7: He lost the team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lincoln's young. I don't see him as grumpy, little defensive.

513
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Speaker 3: He's young, he's smart. He's on the right side of

514
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Speaker 3: the ball. What he has done to Jaden may Ava. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 3: it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: That kid.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, I watched him at UNLV and I'm like,

518
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Speaker 3: what is Lincoln seeing that guy? I think he looks

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Speaker 3: like a pro. He does look like a pro because

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Speaker 3: a Lincoln. Yeah. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. That's

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Speaker 2: the herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: Yes man, I got stuff today, Blazing five, Top of

524
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Speaker 3: the Show, bounce back week, so very very interesting game.

525
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Speaker 3: Minnesota hosts Baltimore. Lamar Jackson owns the NFC. But over

526
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Speaker 3: the next month, starting this Sunday, the truth is going

527
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: to come out on JJ McCarthy. No more handholding Baltimore, Chicago,

528
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Seattle can all score points. There's gonna be

529
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Speaker 3: some shootouts, and they're gonna need thirty points a game,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight thirty points a game to win games. So

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Speaker 3: so far this year JJ McCarthy, I mean, if if

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Speaker 3: you kind of almost look at the career thing, it's

533
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Speaker 3: it's two good quarters of twelve. Okay, if you take

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Speaker 3: the two good quarters out, he has a thirty seven

535
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Speaker 3: passer rating and is completing fifty three percent of his throws.

536
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Speaker 3: Two good quarters of twelve this year. That's not that's

537
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Speaker 3: not great. He was the one quarterback in the twenty

538
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Speaker 3: twenty four class. I didn't buy. There was nothing personal,

539
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: but I have to see in college a wow trait.

540
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Speaker 3: That's why I like Kyler Murray. I'm like, I've never

541
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Speaker 3: seen a guy move like that, size are athletic ability.

542
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Speaker 3: I gotta get a wow trade. You can't tell me

543
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Speaker 3: he's a winner. What does that mean. That's like if

544
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to hire your son or daughter and I

545
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: ask you as a parent about him, and you're like, well,

546
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: they're a good kid. Well you're their parents. I would

547
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: hope they're a good kid. You got to give me

548
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: a resume. Where do they go to school? What is

549
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: their skill set? What have they done? I got twelve quarters,

550
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Speaker 3: two good ones, you know I. And here's the thing,

551
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: if you go to his quarterback class in college. I

552
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: looked it up. Pennix, Caleb, Jayden Daniels, Bonnick straight May

553
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: averaged over three hundred yards a game they carried their teammates.

554
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy averaged one hundred and ninety nine yards. He

555
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: was carried by Michigan. So his college career did not

556
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Speaker 3: set him up for the NFL reality, which is you

557
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: don't have the best O line, the best coach, the

558
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: best run game, the best defense, and the best field position.

559
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Speaker 3: So and people say, well, Colin, he'll make one or

560
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: two spectacular throws a game. That's like being a comedian.

561
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: One or two jokes that land does not make a

562
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: great set, Right. You gotta be funny for twenty five minutes.

563
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: You gotta do a Bill Burr like you gotta be

564
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: You gotta stand on stage for forty five minutes and

565
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: ninety percent of it is really really funny. Then you're

566
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: a franchise comedian. It can't be a couple of good jokes.

567
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: So I don't see the wow in twenty five games,

568
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: he's he's played three. I don't know what to make

569
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Speaker 3: of it. This morning the staffs, I said, give me

570
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Speaker 3: the total quarters twelve? How many are good too? That's

571
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Speaker 3: not a good hit rate. I don't know what to

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Speaker 3: do with it. So he plays the Ravens. I look

573
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Speaker 3: at the schedule, Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle. There are

574
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: some offenses there. Lamar Caleb, Jordan loves Sam Darnold. You

575
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: gotta put some points up. Here's Kevin O'Connell. I mean,

576
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Speaker 3: two of twelve's not even a good batting average. I mean,

577
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Speaker 3: here's Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 14: I've always thought JJ is a very very high level

579
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Speaker 14: prossessor of information. I think the way I would equate

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Speaker 14: it to it would be like, you know, if you're

581
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Speaker 14: a high level chef making a meal. You know, we

582
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Speaker 14: try to put the ingredients out on the counter and

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Speaker 14: then leave the instructions right next to the ingredients, and

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Speaker 14: then potentially, you know, have up until fifteen seconds to

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Speaker 14: help guide the crafting of that meal.

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Speaker 3: That's how we try to do it.

587
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Speaker 14: So it's not just show up to the stadium and

588
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 14: figure it out all on your own.

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Speaker 3: You know I like the ingredients. I got no problem

590
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Speaker 3: with the ingredients. It's the chef. I don't know if

591
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: can bring it home. Like I said, left tackle, Star

592
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Speaker 3: Receivers head coach, I love the ingredients. Defensive coordinator Brian Flores,

593
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Speaker 3: I'd hire him in a heartbeat. I love all the ingredients,

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Speaker 3: but you got to make that land on my plate.

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Speaker 3: I don't see it. We got blazing five. Top of

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Speaker 3: next hour, Mike Sandals got a fascinating piece, Mayor to

597
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: put my tinfoil hat on with Lebron James. See that. Suddenly,

598
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Speaker 3: Lebron James, Siatica is all hels. This is very interesting.

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Speaker 3: My back is suddenly healed.

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Speaker 9: After a great lucas it happens to us old guys.

601
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Speaker 9: Come on, you know that A good night's sleep and

602
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Speaker 9: your back is fine.

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Speaker 3: Siatica can't get out of bed. Luca drops thirty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 5: It's the hurd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

607
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Speaker 2: in Neon Eastern not am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, USC is gonna beat Northwestern and Iowa. It all

609
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: comes down to that Oregon game. And to your point,

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Speaker 3: us he views themselves as and they're spending money like

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Speaker 3: Ohio State is and Texas they're spending big money on

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Speaker 3: facilities and the staff and the nil. It's that Oregon game.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing, you know, it's one thing to lose

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Speaker 3: it Notre Dame. The alumni is okay with that, and

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Speaker 3: it's another thing. It's a battle with Oregon. But if

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 3: you go down there and get baked in Eugene after

617
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Speaker 3: losing to Illinois, and you look up four years in

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Speaker 3: and you're like, our record's kind of the same as

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Speaker 3: Clay Hilton. Now we know Lincoln's better than Clay Helton.

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Speaker 3: He develops players better, but it's a lot of the

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Speaker 3: same stuff. Recruiting's not as powerful as it should be.

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Speaker 3: That was a Clay Hilton problem. It's a Lincoln issue.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's like, oh, next year's class is great. Well, let's

624
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Speaker 3: just see it's the nil world. Guys leave all the time.

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Speaker 9: Indiana went into Oregon and had a pretty convincing win. Excellent,

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Speaker 9: you need to show up. I like USC tonight. I

627
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 9: think it's fourteen and a half. They're a very good

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Speaker 9: home team. But it's the story.

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Speaker 3: Josh Pate like, there's keep your eye on Penn State

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Speaker 3: maybe it's just out there through an agent to cool

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Speaker 3: the heat on Lincoln. I like Lincoln. He's my Matt Lafleur.

632
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Speaker 3: I know he's smart. I know he knows quarterbacks. I

633
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: know he's a really bright guy. Some of the CEO

634
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Speaker 3: stuff a little prickly. Sometimes I doubt the worldview on

635
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Speaker 3: the program. Where's the they're there with the packers.

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Speaker 7: And remember when he was at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 9: There's not that massive spotlight at USC much bigger spotlight,

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Speaker 9: big Den. I think you got to give these guys time.

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Speaker 9: I agree, I'm with you. I'm defended Dabbo and all

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Speaker 9: these guys. He won eleven games every year at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that I can go defend Dabbo. But

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Speaker 9: that's another story, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know there's a lot of talk trade deadline

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Speaker 3: week criticizing teams that were too aggressive, like Indianapolis, and

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about Jalen Phillips. Good player goes from

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Speaker 3: spiraling out of control Miami to Philadelphia. Sauce Gardner goes

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Speaker 3: from the abysmal hapless Jets to the Colts. Rashid Shaheed

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Speaker 3: hooks back up with his offive coordinator in New Orleans,

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Speaker 3: goes from the lost woeful Saints to the Seahawks. I

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Speaker 3: think all three players are going to crush. And it's

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Speaker 3: three of my favorite gms Howie Roseman, Chris Ballard, John

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Speaker 3: Snyder great gms. So when people say they say this

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Speaker 3: a lot, well, you gave up too much, be careful.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Philly needed an edge rusher. They're like

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Speaker 3: bottom six in sacks, bottom seven in sacks. The Colts

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Speaker 3: needed a corner. Look at the Colts schedule in the

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Speaker 3: next five weeks they need They're facing a lot of

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Speaker 3: number one receivers. They need an elite corner. In Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Too much of their offense through the air was JSN.

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Speaker 3: They needed another perimeter weapon. But when people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you gave up this first round picks. So instead of

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Speaker 3: just crossing your fingers and hoping next year the first

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Speaker 3: rounders play, let's go back to this pass first round.

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Speaker 3: Two players in the first round are crushing playmakers today.

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Speaker 3: Two of thirty two Tyler Warren, who Chris Ballard drafted

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Speaker 3: tight end Colts all pro level tight end, and a

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Speaker 3: Mecca Abuka wide receiver Tampa Productive Dynamic. They are professional

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Speaker 3: football players and high end players. Two of thirty two

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Speaker 3: in the first round. There's another six six, seven guys

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Speaker 3: who are good. They're not Sauce Gardner or Jalen Phillips productive.

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Speaker 3: So again, windows close very quickly in professional football. Strike

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Speaker 3: when the iron is hot is a term used in

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Speaker 3: every industry. And I look at Rashid Shaheed and Jalen

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Speaker 3: Phillips and Sauce Gardner. All of those guys fill a

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Speaker 3: small hole on good rosters. Somebody told me this years ago.

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Speaker 3: They're like, everybody loves draft picks, but if you have

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Speaker 3: a really good roster, like the Philadelphia Eagles, how many

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Speaker 3: spots are available in the draft? I mean, you're the Colts,

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Speaker 3: how many guys can you draft? Tyler Warren hits the

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Speaker 3: only I mean, there's only two or three spots that

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Speaker 3: a second third rounder could even make. That that's why

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Speaker 3: they gave up first round picks. Philly, Seattle and Indy

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Speaker 3: have three of the top six rosters in the sport.

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Speaker 3: And if you like your quarterback, and all of them

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Speaker 3: apparently do, all right, you give up first round picks.

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Speaker 3: So I like aggressive gms, maybe to a fault. Here's

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Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips. I'm going from Miami to Philly.

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Speaker 2: I thought I was excited at day one.

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Speaker 13: I mean, talk to me now, like this is literally

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Speaker 13: the greatest thing that's happened to me in my whole life.

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Speaker 5: Probably.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a workplace transfer. It's unbelievable. I

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Speaker 3: will defend those gms. I want to throw this out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go too deep into it. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to put on a ten fold hat. But

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Speaker 3: you're a Lebron guy a little bit J mac So. Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: report surfaces Lebron's not making the five game Roadie, that

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Speaker 3: psiatica nerve is very temperamental. And then that night Luca

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Speaker 3: has one of his games of the year, Wemby gets steimied.

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Speaker 3: JJ Reddick looks like a genius. And the next morning

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Speaker 3: the report comes out the sciatica nerve, what psiatica nerve?

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Speaker 3: Feel like a million dollars. I read the story yesterday

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Speaker 3: Lebron has now been cleared for contact and then made

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Speaker 3: sure that story made the news. That's made sure that

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Speaker 3: story made the La Times. They got out there for

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Speaker 3: the press. Kind of felt a little intentional, is all

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: Look at me, maybe so is that Lebron he's gonna

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Speaker 9: rush back.

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Speaker 7: Now, what are you going to say?

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Speaker 3: The tinfoil hat on Lebron is very inten tensional. Stuff

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Speaker 3: gets out because his camp wants it out. Luke on

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Speaker 3: a heater beat the Red Hot Spurs. Honestly, Aiden's playing great, Luca.

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Speaker 3: They did it without Austin Reeves and Lebron. Lebron just

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Speaker 3: make sure the old Sciantica nothing just a little achy breaky,

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Speaker 3: it's all healed up. I don't know. I just think

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Speaker 3: here's Rachel Nichols on the Lebron fitting in with the Lakers.

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Speaker 8: I think now he's really on board with being on

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Speaker 8: this team right now and letting what happens next year be,

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Speaker 8: you know, next summer to sort of thing. But look,

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Speaker 8: Lebron has a gravity in the locker room, in any

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Speaker 8: room he's in. I always compare him to Jupiter. Jupiter

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Speaker 8: has two and a half times the gravity of Earth.

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Speaker 8: Lebron has two and a half times the gravity of

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Speaker 8: anyone else in that locker room. So when he's in

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Speaker 8: the locker room actively on the court, he is such

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Speaker 8: a huge presence. That's not Lebron's fault. He doesn't do

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Speaker 8: anything disruptive. It's just that he's different.

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Speaker 3: I am not wearing a tinfoil hat. It just felt

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Speaker 3: like it was an intentional report after a glorious win

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Speaker 3: at home over the Spurs. Hey, this is how journalism works.

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Speaker 3: You've got a probe. Love it The Blazing Five

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Speaker 5: Next