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Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: It is yet another beautiful day in Paradise. Here inside
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Speaker 4: This is mix Shots. If we can get Mickey and
Speaker 4: Everson off their phones and focus on the task at hand,
Speaker 4: we will start Steelers Week.
Speaker 2: Here Steelers Week.
Speaker 5: Nan checking to see if he needed to come out
Speaker 5: of the bullpen again.
Speaker 6: No, we're good, Nate, Thank you sir. All right, we
Speaker 6: don't need any replacements.
Speaker 4: It's the return of Everson Walls. And despite what happened
Speaker 4: at the cot and Ball on Saturday night, he still
Speaker 4: has his grambling football proudly displaying the colors.
Speaker 2: What happened five overtimes?
Speaker 4: Five overtime game against Prairie View Panthers.
Speaker 6: Okay, our rivalry in the swack Uh Conference and my
Speaker 6: dad went to preview.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, there's a rivalry.
Speaker 2: Walls family, right by your classic. I got worried about
Speaker 2: Southern Uh huh.
Speaker 6: You know when it comes to Southwest Classic, I have
Speaker 6: to worry about Prairieview.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm representing.
Speaker 6: Very well, but we lost in five over times on
Speaker 6: Saturday night.
Speaker 5: Were you ready to rush the field if you want to?
Speaker 2: No, I was not. I was not rushing anything.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I think I might have
Speaker 6: missed but two overtimes myself talking trash to somebody you
Speaker 6: know in the stands.
Speaker 4: So who was more importantly who won the Battle of
Speaker 4: the bands?
Speaker 6: And how oh man GRANDMPA, oh way, oh way, always
Speaker 6: there you go. Even my dad would agree on that,
Speaker 6: bless u.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well here we are, and I've done a
Speaker 4: lot of research on the Pittsburgh Steelers this morning. Have
Speaker 4: you getting ready for the week? And you know, it's
Speaker 4: not often we get this matchup. It just comes there
Speaker 4: once every four years. Basically, could happen more often with
Speaker 4: the seventeenth game now, but it's not happening this year
Speaker 4: in the seventeenth game. It's because the Cowboys and the
Speaker 4: NFC East are playing the AFC North and so they
Speaker 4: met in twenty twenty, and they met in twenty sixteen
Speaker 4: and Dak Prescott's only faced him one time, and we
Speaker 4: had some footage of Dak Prescott shaking hands with Mike
Speaker 4: Tomlin after the game after a Cowboys victory at Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: his rookie season, and it was amazing to see how
Speaker 4: young Dak Prescott really eight years ago. Yes, but it's
Speaker 4: good fun week Sunday Night Football. There's a reason these
Speaker 4: two franchises are on Sunday Night Football this week.
Speaker 2: That's a throwback that's going way back. By this, all.
Speaker 5: Their Super Bowl meetings.
Speaker 4: Right going back to the seventies and also in the nineties.
Speaker 5: What was it three four four for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: No, they won, Yes, and they met in the seventies, yes, twice.
Speaker 5: Right, seventy five r seventy.
Speaker 4: Eight, seventy eight, and then ninety victory in Super Bowl
Speaker 4: thirty ninety five.
Speaker 2: I forgot about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we also.
Speaker 4: You were still a part of the organization just as
Speaker 4: an alumni.
Speaker 5: Right, he was officially alumni by ninety five.
Speaker 2: In seventy five, I was a fan.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, seventy eight you were too.
Speaker 6: The five I don't think I was even playing sports really, No,
Speaker 6: you didn't.
Speaker 4: Play sports until your junior year in high school.
Speaker 6: Well, I tried out you play you play basketball, Well, yeah,
Speaker 6: definitely got kicked off the basketball team.
Speaker 4: You played baseball more than once.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't play baseball.
Speaker 4: You talked about what great center fielder you were. That
Speaker 4: was just pick up games in Heildon bar.
Speaker 2: Oh, No, I said that in little Okay, you.
Speaker 4: Did play sports before, except you don't consider little league
Speaker 4: sports to be sports. Well, you didn't play varsity, but
Speaker 4: I didn't think.
Speaker 2: Of it to being a winner versus you know, knowing.
Speaker 4: That they didn't keep scoring.
Speaker 2: They kept scoring, but you know, you didn't know where
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: That was before you kept school.
Speaker 2: At that age.
Speaker 6: The truth, Yeah, the truth tends to be very flexible.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so we we got visual evidence yesterday of
Speaker 5: the Cowboys injury situation. We did, and it's not a
Speaker 5: good thing.
Speaker 4: He was rolling on a scooter.
Speaker 5: See two guys rolling on a scooter with a boot.
Speaker 2: On, right, So I wouldn't even want that thing.
Speaker 5: So DeMarcus Lawrence is heading to injured reserve, which will
Speaker 5: open up a spot on the fifty three man roster.
Speaker 5: And they were in the myths of scouring other teams
Speaker 5: practice squads to maybe poach somebody.
Speaker 4: Okay, we might have a report on that by three
Speaker 4: o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 5: Or probably by twelve forty eight, course as soon as
Speaker 5: we finish, and so they'll open up a roster spot
Speaker 5: and then probably try to find somebody. I mean, they
Speaker 5: need they need numbers defensive ends, because the only defensive
Speaker 5: end on the practice squad is Carl Lawson. He has
Speaker 5: one more elevation. We'll see how he does.
Speaker 4: I predict that the Cowboys will probably sign kJ Henry
Speaker 4: to a two year deal off the Bengals practice squad.
Speaker 5: It's already out there.
Speaker 4: I'll just predict that that I really think that the
Speaker 4: guy they ought to go care. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4: I just think that the guy that they probably should
Speaker 4: go for is uh. I think there's a guy in
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati practice squad and a guy named kJ Henry,
Speaker 4: And in fact, if I were going to do it,
Speaker 4: I think I would go ahead and sign him to
Speaker 4: a two year contract, and I think he would be the.
Speaker 5: Answer to the reported that they.
Speaker 4: Signed him to. Well let me check, let me check
Speaker 4: and see if there's any reports out there about it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, kJ Henry is the guy that I have
Speaker 4: my eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stealing.
Speaker 4: Oh, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN is wrong there. It is
Speaker 4: signing pass rusher cagej Henry to a two year deal
Speaker 4: on the active roster off the Bengals practice squad person
Speaker 4: is theft.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, breaking news, breaking news, Bill Jones.
Speaker 4: I was just I was just saying, that's the guy
Speaker 4: I would stay.
Speaker 5: It turned out the guy's on a practice squad. He'll
Speaker 5: save the day.
Speaker 4: Actually, I had someone else yesterday that I told Mickey
Speaker 4: that that's the guy that I would go after, and
Speaker 4: they yeah, but I can't say who that person.
Speaker 6: Well, the problem is with Michael Pausums. Of course, you're
Speaker 6: thinking about two different positions. Almost you know you have
Speaker 6: to sign someone. You're not going to sign another Michael
Speaker 6: Pawsums off a practice squad.
Speaker 2: So it's almost like you gotta signed two people. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 6: You got to bring in someone back and be steady
Speaker 6: at defensive end. And then also we need someone that
Speaker 6: can rush the pass on third down.
Speaker 5: Well, what they're probably looking for is that rush the
Speaker 5: passer on third down, Okay, because they'll fulfill the regular
Speaker 5: down spots with Marshawn nieland on one side, he's by
Speaker 5: the way, yeah, and Chauncey Golston on the other I
Speaker 5: don't know that they look see. And the problem was
Speaker 5: a lot of the snaps that Kneeland was getting, they
Speaker 5: were moving them inside on the nickel a pass rusher
Speaker 5: third down nickel situations. But now if he's outside, you
Speaker 5: kind of lose that ability to move him inside. And
Speaker 5: I don't know that they have another big pass rusher
Speaker 5: they can move inside.
Speaker 4: You gotta like kJ Henry. He played for Brent Vinables
Speaker 4: at Clemson.
Speaker 2: So oh well, okay, so we must like him.
Speaker 4: You've got to like him. He comes from that of defensive.
Speaker 5: What's this history he assuming? You got it there?
Speaker 4: I have it right here, and let's give you some
Speaker 4: details on kay J Henry sixty four, two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty five pounds out of Clemson, and he was a
Speaker 4: fifth round draft pick last year of the Washington Commanders
Speaker 4: and with Cincinnati on the practice squad this year. So
Speaker 4: he was at Washington. Let me check on this. Did
Speaker 4: Quinn cut him this year? He was released as part
Speaker 4: of the final cuts with the Washington Commanders this year.
Speaker 4: So in August, a month ago, dan Quinn cut him.
Speaker 4: He was claimed off waivers by the Bengals waved on
Speaker 4: September seventeenth and re signed to the Cincinnati practice squad,
Speaker 4: so he has been on. He was on the Bengals
Speaker 4: active roster the first week of the season, maybe the
Speaker 4: first two weeks. September seventeenth, he was waived and resigned
Speaker 4: to the practice squad. And he okay, pre draft measurables
Speaker 4: six ' four in a quarter, two hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: one pounds with thirty three inch arms and ten inch
Speaker 4: hands like Everson Walls sounds like four six three forty
Speaker 4: and the other measurables are.
Speaker 5: And how many rounds did he play last year.
Speaker 4: For Washington wells yep, four six three, because obviously his
Speaker 4: twenty yards shut as cone draw was not great, but
Speaker 4: that could be because he didn't.
Speaker 5: How many tackles did he have last year?
Speaker 4: Well, I've got to look up his stats now, and so.
Speaker 5: That's not part of that big No.
Speaker 4: It's nineteen tackles last year he was He had ten games,
Speaker 4: three starts with Washington last year, nineteen tackles, four tackles
Speaker 4: for lost, two quarterback hits, one and a half acts
Speaker 4: last year in limited time. Let's see how many snaps
Speaker 4: he had two hundred and eighty two snaps on defense
Speaker 4: last year, eleven snaps this year on defense in two
Speaker 4: games with Cincinnati ka j Henry So he reportedly headed
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 5: So he got beat out by Dante Fowler and Dorince Armstrong.
Speaker 5: Okay in Washington. Why he got cut.
Speaker 4: Well, what you do on that is you follow the money.
Speaker 4: They're not going to cut Durrance Armstrong and Nante Fowler
Speaker 4: after spending money on.
Speaker 5: Well, that's on them. They spent the money, so.
Speaker 2: That you know what happened.
Speaker 4: I think with kJ Henry is they probably wanted to
Speaker 4: get him to.
Speaker 2: The practice squad and didn't make it, and he.
Speaker 4: Didn't make it. He got signed by Cincinnati, and then
Speaker 4: it becomes.
Speaker 5: A well, at least it's a body that's been practicing
Speaker 5: and actually played right. There's no ramp up there.
Speaker 4: And so they looked at the landscape the all the
Speaker 4: practice squads in the league, and this is the guy
Speaker 4: they either wanted or could. Of course, guys on practice
Speaker 4: squads also have their option of signing.
Speaker 5: There or not well, and the reason why they signed
Speaker 5: them to a two year deal is basically he's getting
Speaker 5: minimum and so he gets two years. In case you
Speaker 5: hit like Cavante Turpin. When the Cowboys picked him up,
Speaker 5: they signed him to a three year deal. Okay, and
Speaker 5: he's still on his original contract even though he became
Speaker 5: an All a Pro Bowl punt or kick returner. As
Speaker 5: his agent told me, I said, how do you sign
Speaker 5: a three year deal? He goes, well, no one else
Speaker 5: is knocking on your door. Whatever they offer you, you.
Speaker 4: Sign, Everson. Remind me because I've missed you here in
Speaker 4: the last week. So to William, but were you here Friday?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, So we did get your take on the Giants game. Yes, okay.
Speaker 4: That's how memorable that take was for me.
Speaker 6: You know, after that game, I'm thinking, you know, well
Speaker 6: we got to win. It's you know, it was something
Speaker 6: that we needed. I could have sworn we lost. I
Speaker 6: could have sworn that we lost.
Speaker 4: The narrative after the game, man.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 6: My son and I talk about it all the time,
Speaker 6: just how unique we are as a team and how
Speaker 6: uniquely we're covered. No one is talking about Joe Burrows
Speaker 6: and how the Bengals are playing.
Speaker 5: Winds are not valued.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when it comes to us, when it comes.
Speaker 6: To us against the Giants, Yeah, well I thought they
Speaker 6: said the Giants were pretty good. If I recall that
Speaker 6: was some positive narrative out there about the Giants.
Speaker 4: By the way they had won the week before and
Speaker 4: the week before that, they held Jaden Daniels from scoring
Speaker 4: a touchdown in.
Speaker 2: This game, basically the field goal.
Speaker 4: That's right, Washington, Washington did not score a touchdown. This
Speaker 4: great Jaden Daniels, who's now the leading candidate to be
Speaker 4: the MVP in the league, by something. He couldn't find
Speaker 4: the end zone against the Giants.
Speaker 2: The wait before.
Speaker 4: They had seven field goals and the only reason the
Speaker 4: Giants lost that game was their kicker pulled a hamstring
Speaker 4: on the opening kickoff of the game. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 4: and so but that wasn't a good win over the
Speaker 4: Giants any win to me, And this won't be a
Speaker 4: good win win. This won't be a good win over
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh either on Sunday night because the Steelers just lost.
Speaker 2: And then but then also it's a divisional win.
Speaker 6: You gotta go with that you have anytime on the road,
Speaker 6: thank you, anytime that that happens. I don't care what
Speaker 6: your team looks like. Divisional play is if he had best.
Speaker 4: It's if he at best. And it's also important when
Speaker 4: it comes to the end of the season as far
Speaker 4: as tiebreakers. In fact, if you go back you get
Speaker 4: to the end of the season, that lost to Baltimore
Speaker 4: is not not nearly as bad as the loss to
Speaker 4: New Orleans because the New Orleans was a conferences out
Speaker 4: of conference losses, they don't come back to bite you
Speaker 4: during tiebreaker season.
Speaker 6: It's like Janus, like George Bush said, Man, you got
Speaker 6: to have strategy, you know, kind of if you kind
Speaker 6: of do this, you know there's a method to the madness.
Speaker 6: We we you know, there was a way to win it.
Speaker 6: But the fact that we did win it on the road,
Speaker 6: that is something you just don't sneeze at.
Speaker 2: It's something that should.
Speaker 4: Be on a short week on the r Come on, man.
Speaker 6: All of that, you see all of that? No one,
Speaker 6: we got no credit for that. So regardless, we know
Speaker 6: we never will but I know that within the Cowboys camp,
Speaker 6: of course, yes, we still have work to do, but
Speaker 6: that win is a good win.
Speaker 4: Mickey, as we wrap up this first segment, I've got
Speaker 4: a lot I want to get to about the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4: I listened to Mike Tomlin's press conference on the way
Speaker 4: in and but is there something else that you would
Speaker 4: like to throw out there in this first segment.
Speaker 5: Just the fact that you know Micah wasn't going to
Speaker 5: just I can't play. It's like if I can, I will,
Speaker 5: but it sounds like he can't. I mean, if you
Speaker 5: see that big old booties got on.
Speaker 6: The fact that he can't go, that lets you know
Speaker 6: what has rightly.
Speaker 5: Because he ain't missing a game, right, that's right because
Speaker 5: somebody told him would it makes sense that you missed
Speaker 5: the next one, and then get the buye and he goes, hey,
Speaker 5: you only get seventeen of these, and he goes, if
Speaker 5: I can go, I'm going I'm not looking at it like, well,
Speaker 5: the best thing to do would be to sit out again.
Speaker 6: I don't think they talked him out of it. I
Speaker 6: think he knew he could not go. Oh, there's no
Speaker 6: talking him out there.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's on a scooter, right, kneeling down, scooting
Speaker 5: along like I did it when I tore my achilles, right,
Speaker 5: and you are how long?
Speaker 2: Let's do this a little different.
Speaker 6: Stop comparing your injury to especially Michael.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm just saying I know what it's like, scooter.
Speaker 5: I know what it's like to be on that scooter.
Speaker 4: And yet the game is Sunday night and this is Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Right, so he got a lot of time.
Speaker 4: Uh huh. I would not I would not count that.
Speaker 4: And by the way, by the way, listening to Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 4: he's not counting it out either, because he knows a
Speaker 4: little something about what Michael Parsons is made of.
Speaker 5: I got you.
Speaker 6: He's a a a Mike Thomas type of player, exactly right,
Speaker 6: Mike Thomas.
Speaker 4: All right, and when we come back here, let me
Speaker 4: ask you this, when was the last time the Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: Steelers had a losing season? Think about that. We'll have
Speaker 4: the answer for you. We come back on mixed shots
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Speaker 4: And Jared Goff was eighteen for eighteen in a Lions victory,
Speaker 4: and he caught a touchdown, and he caught a touchdown Brown.
Speaker 4: That's the first time in his career, to answer your question,
Speaker 4: and the first time Saint Brown has thrown a touchdown.
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Speaker 5: A guy throws eighteen for eighteen two ndred ninety two
Speaker 5: yards and two touchdowns, right, and it's not even a
Speaker 5: perfect quarterback rating one fifty five point eight one fifty
Speaker 5: eight three is perfect, right, So if he had completed
Speaker 5: one more pass for say seven yards, it would have
Speaker 5: been perfect because if you add Saint Brown's touchdown pass
Speaker 5: going one for one, yes, yeah, and his seven yards
Speaker 5: as a team, their quarterback rating was perfect fifty eight three.
Speaker 4: So what's the standard.
Speaker 2: What do you have to do?
Speaker 4: You have to throw more passes.
Speaker 2: It has to be a certain certain number of passes.
Speaker 4: You have to get to nineteen passes and.
Speaker 5: Be well, it's passed. One lead in is a perfect
Speaker 5: game completed and yards? So the yards count?
Speaker 4: What it was? He so he had got his stats
Speaker 4: in provacy, his yards per attempt seven win eighteen, okay,
Speaker 4: and that's gotta be plenty.
Speaker 5: And it comes to you.
Speaker 4: Got it there?
Speaker 5: No, I didn't write that part of town.
Speaker 4: Well, I got my calculator here. What were the numbers again?
Speaker 4: Two ninety two, yeah, two ninety two divided by one
Speaker 4: to eight equals right, I think I just can't wait?
Speaker 2: Yep, you blew it.
Speaker 4: Let me try that again. To ninety two divided by
Speaker 4: one point eight, sixteen point two.
Speaker 5: It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: How is that not a perfect rating?
Speaker 5: He needed more yards or another touchdown.
Speaker 4: Sixteen point two yards per attempt isn't good enough twice.
Speaker 4: The what eight point zero is a great yards per
Speaker 4: attempt in this league, in this.
Speaker 2: Sixteen point two not per completion?
Speaker 4: Right, per attenpt time? Eight point zero is a great
Speaker 4: yards per attempt.
Speaker 5: I told you he needed one more completion.
Speaker 4: All right, there, we've just one more exposed. We've exposed that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: rating the one fifty eight point three, there's a formula
Speaker 4: that you don't that's a ridiculous formula.
Speaker 5: Completions yards, I'm sorry, touchdown.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry in eighteen out of eighteen for two hundred
Speaker 4: and ninety two yards, no picks, two touchdowns. Is a
Speaker 4: perfect passer, right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: And he was surprised by it, by the way.
Speaker 2: And he didn't get the game ball.
Speaker 4: He got sacked three times. He had sacks.
Speaker 2: That doesn't know, and he didn't get the game ball.
Speaker 4: That's right, he did not get Dan Campbell didn't know
Speaker 4: he was perfect?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, does he have to be per See,
Speaker 6: nobody's given him love. Does he have to be perfect
Speaker 6: to get the game ball?
Speaker 4: No one's ever given Jared Goff love. Right, he took
Speaker 4: a team to the Super Bowl, didn't get love. Oh,
Speaker 4: got traded for another quarterback who did take his team
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl out and win it. No, all right,
Speaker 4: when was the last time the Pittsburgh Steelers had a
Speaker 4: losing record?
Speaker 6: And I said, doing the break that I thought it
Speaker 6: was around twenty years.
Speaker 4: He did say that.
Speaker 2: Try to avoid.
Speaker 6: I thought they were trying to avoid a losing year
Speaker 6: maybe two years ago, and I thought they barely did.
Speaker 2: And I could be totally wrong about Mickey.
Speaker 4: What was your retort to that that.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys owned the record for twenty consecutive winning seasons.
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you this, that's the Cowboy record.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The keyword there, not the NFL winning seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I said, when was the last time the Steelers had
Speaker 4: a losing record? So you factor in a five hundred
Speaker 4: record is not a losing record?
Speaker 2: True?
Speaker 4: And so the Cowboys have the record for twenty years
Speaker 4: with winning records from nineteen sixty six through nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 4: The Steelers last year to have a losing record was
Speaker 4: two thousand and three.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Ever, sin, but when did they have an ax?
Speaker 4: And several times they've had five hundred records during that stretch.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I was referring to.
Speaker 6: I remember them trying to avoid the first losing season
Speaker 6: in the whild but.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys didn't, and they did have one bump in
Speaker 4: the road in that twenty years span, and eight the
Speaker 4: bump in the road was an eight and six record
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy four, which is still a winning season,
Speaker 4: and so their record is still intact well but still.
Speaker 5: Out non losing. Then you can add nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4: Five, right, and so the Cowboys non losing seasons, the
Speaker 4: Cowboys and the Steelers are at The Steelers currently are
Speaker 4: at twenty one in a row, and the Cowboys had
Speaker 4: twenty one in a row from nineteen sixty five through
Speaker 4: eighty five, five hundred and seven and seven record in
Speaker 4: sixty five.
Speaker 2: So I was right.
Speaker 4: So yes, you were Everson ding Ding ding Ding, Everson
Speaker 4: win's the prize.
Speaker 5: This week, And you realize they would have stretched it
Speaker 5: to through eighty six if Danny White didn't break his wrist.
Speaker 4: Right, So over that twenty one year period, the Cowboys
Speaker 4: had two hundred and fifteen wins and eighty six losses
Speaker 4: from sixty five to eighty five. Okay, the Steelers over
Speaker 4: the last twenty one years two hundred seven wins and
Speaker 4: one hundred and fourteen losses.
Speaker 5: Not even close.
Speaker 2: But what a.
Speaker 4: Testament to the Steelers organization to have put up that
Speaker 4: kind of right to.
Speaker 5: Do it in this area when there's a salary cap
Speaker 5: for the last thirty years, and.
Speaker 6: For those two teams to be so close closely aligned,
Speaker 6: that just lets you know, how you know, both organizations,
Speaker 6: so we expect.
Speaker 4: So year has been right, and so you look at
Speaker 4: the Steelers. Bill Cower was the coach when they last
Speaker 4: had a losing record in two thousand and three. He
Speaker 4: then made it to the AFC Championship Game in two
Speaker 4: thousand and four with a fifteen and one record, and
Speaker 4: then won the Super Bowl in five with an eleven
Speaker 4: and five record, went eight and eight and six, and
Speaker 4: then Tomlin took over in seven and Tomlin his first
Speaker 4: year ten and six, lost in the wild card. His
Speaker 4: second year in eight, they win the Super Bowl with
Speaker 4: a twelve and four record, and then, of course, two
Speaker 4: years after that they lose in the Super Bowl to
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy and the Packers after a twelve and four
Speaker 4: regular season. Here, yeah, exactly right at and T Stadium.
Speaker 4: Now here's what's interesting too, And you compare him with
Speaker 4: the Cowboys since twenty ten, the Steelers have been to
Speaker 4: the playoffs thirteen times, and no, I'm sorry, that's over
Speaker 4: the twenty one year Over the twenty one year period,
Speaker 4: the Steelers have been to the playoffs thirteen times and
Speaker 4: won eight division titles. Going back to the Cowboys during
Speaker 4: that time, they're twenty one year period, eighteen playoff appearances
Speaker 4: and thirteen division titles. To compare those two decade eras.
Speaker 4: But since twenty ten in the postseason, the Cowboys are
Speaker 4: three and six. Okay, the Steelers are three and nine
Speaker 4: in the postseason since twenty ten.
Speaker 5: Well, I think the only the only we'll go to
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine. You get the Cowboys another victory
Speaker 5: in a.
Speaker 6: Well now, But the only thing that I see where
Speaker 6: you might have a little bit more stability in Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: is just a number of coaches, That's right.
Speaker 2: That would be the only thing, like two Yeah, you
Speaker 2: had Cower.
Speaker 4: And now Tomlin two thousand and seven, right, which leads me, no, right, yeah, Chuck, Noel,
Speaker 4: Bill Kauer and Mike.
Speaker 5: Tomlin in our lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And by the way, listening to Mike Tomlin driving in
Speaker 4: you know, it's not often that I will listen to
Speaker 4: a Mike Tomlin press conference. In fact, I might I
Speaker 4: listened to it in two thousand when the Cowboys played
Speaker 4: him that week, but I'm sure I just because the
Speaker 4: Cowboys are playing them that week, I might have just
Speaker 4: listened to him or in two thousand and six. Other
Speaker 4: than that, it was probably during super Bowl week in
Speaker 4: twenty ten. So my memory needs to be refreshed on
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: He is an impressive gal. He has his whole career,
Speaker 4: I mean, but you just listen to a press conference
Speaker 4: and you can understand why Mike Tomlin has had the
Speaker 4: success that he has had and he has been the
Speaker 4: Steelers coach for so long, just the way he conducts
Speaker 4: the press conference, the way the knowledge and his communication
Speaker 4: ability and being in charge of a situation. You know,
Speaker 4: if he hears a question that he doesn't run answering,
Speaker 4: he handles it with respect to the reporter, but at
Speaker 4: the same time, he doesn't want to go there, and
Speaker 4: so he'll let him know.
Speaker 6: And yeah, he'll let them know, right, And he has
Speaker 6: no qualms about ruining whatever plans you have and asking
Speaker 6: the question because this is Mike prestconference. But he doesn't
Speaker 6: come out as a bully, just comes out as the boss.
Speaker 2: Yep, No, and that's just the difference. And you know
Speaker 2: it's like that.
Speaker 4: In that room with the players, you know, and very
Speaker 4: very impressive.
Speaker 2: Very impressive guy.
Speaker 6: He spoke at We had a Grambling Legends Awards, and
Speaker 6: Doug Williams and Shack Harris they have always tried to
Speaker 6: remember all of those old Grambling guys that you just
Speaker 6: forget about. I mean, you know when you're talking about
Speaker 6: integration and all that kind of stuff. You know, a
Speaker 6: lot of guys get left out from the sixties and
Speaker 6: the fifties and things that nature. We try to bring
Speaker 6: them back in their family. So we have a Grambling
Speaker 6: Legends event. He was the keynote speaker. I'd say that
Speaker 6: must have been about ten years ago. He was a
Speaker 6: keynote speaker. Very impressive. The fact that Doug and Shaq
Speaker 6: chose him to be the keynote for that event. They
Speaker 6: just lets you know what kind of respect he has,
Speaker 6: you know, not just in college football, not just in
Speaker 6: the NFL, but for HBCUs as well. And he was
Speaker 6: not an HBCU coach. I think he was at William
Speaker 6: and Mary.
Speaker 4: Right, you got me on that one.
Speaker 2: Dare you Spags and I know this information. You are
Speaker 2: the man, bro.
Speaker 4: You know what I was. I was on the track
Speaker 4: to look him up, and.
Speaker 2: I think it went back.
Speaker 6: I think he was at William and Mary before he
Speaker 6: went to Pittsburgh. And you know, just the legacy at
Speaker 6: least behind is something to be whope.
Speaker 4: He went to college at William and Mary. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety four, fifty two years old.
Speaker 4: And as a coach he was before Pittsburgh. He's a
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator with the Vikings in six. He was with
Speaker 4: the Buccaneers as the dba'st coach one through five, University
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati and Arkansas State before that, Arkansas State from
Speaker 4: ninety seven to ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Talk about it joinning.
Speaker 5: So was he with Tony Dungee?
Speaker 4: He would have been when did Dungee?
Speaker 5: Let me check on Dungee later than.
Speaker 4: That, No, Dungee was he would have been with Dungee
Speaker 4: and then Gruden as well. I think, right, let me
Speaker 4: make sure on that. Well I look that up. You
Speaker 4: can go ahead and.
Speaker 6: Well I was gonna say the one thing that was, uh.
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess we do need Let's do it all right,
Speaker 4: We'll be back and we'll have more Mike Tomlin and
Speaker 4: ever soon we'll try to find something to talk about
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Speaker 5: Gotta ride a bull Western game? It said Western games.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I would imagine they mean like roping, maybe horseshoe.
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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin coached with Tony Dungee one year at Tampa
Speaker 4: Bay in two thousand and one, and then Gruden took
Speaker 4: over in two I'll tell he was four years with
Speaker 4: Gruden there.
Speaker 5: So we talked yesterday about the Steelers' worries on their
Speaker 5: offensive line. I saw today that the people covering the
Speaker 5: team have a worry about their wide receiver corps because
Speaker 5: George Pickens is the dominant receiver. Yes, he's got twenty
Speaker 5: catches for two hundred and eighty four yards, it almost
Speaker 5: matches CD's twenty catches for sixteen. But their other three
Speaker 5: top receivers, Van Jefferson, Kelvin Austin the Third and Scotty
Speaker 5: Miller only have in four games combined fourteen catches for
Speaker 5: one hundred and ninety two yards, and ninety five of
Speaker 5: those yards came by Austin in one game. So they
Speaker 5: were deducing that if they don't get these other guys
Speaker 5: going like they didn't get going against Indianapolis in that loss,
Speaker 5: when those three guys only combined for three catches for
Speaker 5: thirty eight yards, they're going to struggle.
Speaker 4: There's a reason that they were mentioned in the Brandan
Speaker 4: Nayuk stories, writing it up to Brandon Nayuk finally resigning
Speaker 4: with the forty nine Ers because there's the need for
Speaker 4: a wide receiver in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: So obviously they brought up Tyreek Hill and one of
Speaker 5: the receivers at Jacksonville. So they were saying they need
Speaker 5: to make a trade. Everybody needs to make a trade.
Speaker 5: You got to have money to make a trade. And
Speaker 5: also they've been off to slow starts in.
Speaker 4: The because they don't have any wide receivers.
Speaker 5: In the four first quarters of the four games they've played,
Speaker 5: they've only scored ten points. And at one point in
Speaker 5: that loss to the Colts, I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 5: The Colts had one hundred and eighty yards in Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: had thirty eight years.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, they're like most teams.
Speaker 6: I think we're having a throwback moment here in the NFL,
Speaker 6: and nobody really wants to say it. The good teams
Speaker 6: have good defense and the running game, and that's a throwback.
Speaker 6: Everyone wants to live off your quarterback these days. But
Speaker 6: when it comes down to a Lamar Jackson, not Lamar,
Speaker 6: but the Ravens themselves have shown us the proper way
Speaker 6: to play a game is to have a good quarterback
Speaker 6: and a good running back and a good defense. But
Speaker 6: you don't have to lean on your passing game consistently.
Speaker 6: Your running game has to be the catalyst for what
Speaker 6: you do.
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
Speaker 6: These days, we're going right back to that, but no
Speaker 6: one wants to talk about it because quarterbacks get all
Speaker 6: of them.
Speaker 4: Ever since I was talking about this yesterday, I was
Speaker 4: specifically talking about the way the Chiefs beat the Chargers
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter on Sunday. It was a ten
Speaker 4: to ten game and we all think about Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: You can throw it all over the lot, whatever, but
Speaker 4: they won that game because they even with backup running backs,
Speaker 4: one of whom they just signed that week, Kareem Hunt,
Speaker 4: they were able to run the football and wear down
Speaker 4: the Chargers and win that game seventeen to ten because
Speaker 4: no doubt. And it wasn't because now Patrick m Mahomes
Speaker 4: had a couple of completions in there, But they were
Speaker 4: able to do that because they were able to run
Speaker 4: the football.
Speaker 6: That's what running the football does. It gives a quarterback
Speaker 6: a chance to make plays.
Speaker 4: Last night Detroit, yeah they ended up, but they only
Speaker 4: had to throw eighteen passes, right.
Speaker 5: But they ran the ball twenty eight times for one
Speaker 5: hundred and sixteen yards. And the guy that led them
Speaker 5: was sort of the second running back, Jamar Gibbs, fourteen
Speaker 5: for seventy eight. So their ability to play action run
Speaker 5: the ball allowed them to win a game completing only
Speaker 5: eighteen passes.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, when you look at it, even in
Speaker 6: the Cowboys and Giants, in the second half, we didn't score.
Speaker 6: We didn't do well. I'll put it like this. In
Speaker 6: the second half offensively we didn't do well. But what's
Speaker 6: saved this was our defense kept him out of the
Speaker 6: end zone. That's just yes, kick the field goals say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how are you kick to lose?
Speaker 2: And that's that's basically the formula for the Giants. Kicked
Speaker 2: five of they kick five.
Speaker 4: Another little note coming out of Mike Tomlin's press conference,
Speaker 4: which they're I'm sure they're going to be making a
Speaker 4: big deal of in Pittsburgh is for the first time
Speaker 4: in several weeks, he made mention of the fact that
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson is ramping it up coming off his injury
Speaker 4: and that they're going to see what he can do
Speaker 4: in practice this week with as he put it, a
Speaker 4: live pocket. Now. Justin Fields has played well here the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, in particular, especially the Chargers win.
Speaker 4: They were able to win twenty to ten to get
Speaker 4: to three and zero, and then this past week was
Speaker 4: the first time he had to come from way behind.
Speaker 4: They fell behind seventeen. Nothing brought him back, made some mistakes,
Speaker 4: but also showed the ability to bring his team back
Speaker 4: to make it a twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 6: His defense gave him many opportunities.
Speaker 5: Through for three hundred and twelve yards, right right. I
Speaker 5: got to imagine that's I've got to be close to
Speaker 5: her career for him had a quarterback rating of one
Speaker 5: oh four. So and then you're and he even led
Speaker 5: him in rushing with fifty five yards.
Speaker 4: But wow, so Tomlin. So Tomlin said that about Wilson
Speaker 4: that basically, if Russell Wilson were the only quarterback on
Speaker 4: that team, if Justin Fields wasn't there, I think Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson might be in a position where he could play
Speaker 4: this week. What it sounds like now he hasn't done
Speaker 4: it on the practice field yet, but he's now a
Speaker 4: month into the season.
Speaker 2: And what you're saying, they just they're happy not to.
Speaker 4: And and so Tomlin was asked, is Justin Field It
Speaker 4: was a question. I couldn't really hear the questions in
Speaker 4: the background listening to it on the radio, but he
Speaker 4: was asked if just Justin Field's getting to a point
Speaker 4: now where he's your quarterback in whatever. Russell Wilson's injury
Speaker 4: status is immaterial to this. And he basically said, if
Speaker 4: he keeps, if he keeps, if he keeps playing well
Speaker 4: and keeps winning.
Speaker 5: So which quarterback would you rather face?
Speaker 6: I'd rather face Russell Wilson. If I'm Pittsburgh, I'd like
Speaker 6: to stick with.
Speaker 5: Justin Fields, somebody that won three out of four games
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be hard to just you know, because because
Speaker 6: like Russell Wilson hadn't established himself as a Pittsburgh quarterback.
Speaker 2: So I don't owe him, you know, a chance.
Speaker 6: I'm still going with the guy that's winning it for us,
Speaker 6: and I think the backup would help to understand that
Speaker 6: because he is a backup at this point.
Speaker 4: You know, Russell Wilson didn't play that poorly with Denver
Speaker 4: last year. I mean you look, he had twenty six
Speaker 4: touchdown passes in just eight picks.
Speaker 6: It was definitely well. They were still upset with him
Speaker 6: from the year before.
Speaker 4: It's right, so bad the year before.
Speaker 6: And then you've got Peyton coming in and he wants
Speaker 6: to establish himself and when things didn't go as way,
Speaker 6: the first thing you did was dumped on Russell right
Speaker 6: there on the sidelines.
Speaker 5: I mean they've won three games, They've only scored six touchdowns,
Speaker 5: you know, and only once scored as many as twenty
Speaker 5: points in those three winters.
Speaker 2: And that is the that's the culture of the Steelers.
Speaker 4: You know what. It's kind of interesting Justin Fields. It's
Speaker 4: not the same as the Dak romo in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: but it sort of it's sort of similar to it,
Speaker 4: where you've got an established quarterback in the league in
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Now he hasn't been established with Pittsburgh, but
Speaker 4: due to injury, Justin Fields has gotten this opportunity because
Speaker 4: had Russell Wilson not been hurt, Russell Wilson was going
Speaker 4: to be the starting quarterback to start the year, and
Speaker 4: Fields has it chance if he keeps playing well and
Speaker 4: keeps winning to keep the veteran on the bench, just
Speaker 4: like Dak did with Romo in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: Straight. I mean, we're back, is fine.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I'm saying if Justin Fields is
Speaker 4: able to continue this and go three and one each month,
Speaker 4: you know, the next couple of months, then he could
Speaker 4: be where that was, but Dak and the Cowboys have
Speaker 4: something to say about that, Sonny. All right, that was good. Now,
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