1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson And it is a. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Lovely, lovely too. It is lovely out there. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful day. I'm sure it's beautiful in a 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: lot of places. Other places probably. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: Not so much. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: That's the way that works, the way the world works now. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: But it's great in Pittsburgh right now. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Somebody complained on the message board about it. Why do 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: you say, what you know what the weather's like in Pittsburgh. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: All your listeners are in Pittsburgh. I'm bringing you into 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: the the. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: The daily environment right right. So football weather not really 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: football weather, No, it's not. It's not brisk, it's not 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: hot in the middle of weather. It is kind of 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: baseball weather. 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if it's good golf weather. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: There you go. If it was a little yard work, grilling, 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, right for a cold one on 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the porch. 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: There aren't many days like this, and I know there aren't. 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: There early aren't, I like the four seasons, but more 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: of these days would make me happy. 27 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: I like those the twenty day stretch that you get 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: in spring and then the twenty day stretch that you 29 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: get in the fall, right. 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: Right like this, they're the best parts for sure. But 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: I would miss winter in summer and all the you know, 32 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: real seasons. But they all wear on me a little 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: bit too. The older age. I would miss win her too. 34 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you were to shovel more this year than I did, 35 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: I'd say this year was a little longer and a 36 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: little more tax. 37 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: We had snow for like, for the first time that 38 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: I can remember in a long time. We've really gotten 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: off track here, like real slow, like real snow on 40 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: the ground, not like over a month. That hasn't happened 41 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: in a long time. 42 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, global warming is very real. I mean considering climate change. 43 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Climate change there, it's a good way of putting it. 44 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Compared to our change. It's constantly changing. I mean, as 45 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: kids would put on our moon boots and walk to 46 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: school all the time and in like deep snow. Yeah, 47 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: and then Johnstown was crazy. 48 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Johnstowne was nuts. Yeah, Like I got to the point 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: where I'm not even going why would I buy my 50 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: kids sleds? 51 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Why? Because it never snowed. I just never got the child. 52 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: Where I grew up at, we did a lot of 53 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: way north of Pittsburgh, north of A eighty, We had 54 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: snow on the ground all the time. 55 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we would go sled riding all the time. And 56 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: then I kind I moved down here and it's like 57 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: we don't get as much snow. 58 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter's a little old for it now. I mean, 59 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: but there was a year stretch. You're not. She still goes. 60 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: Actually she's a young puppet. Would steal the trays out 61 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: of thee even a Titus one when I was there, 62 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: and slide riding on. But there was like a three 63 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: year stretch there where she was real into it with 64 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: her friends and like this much tiny bit of snow 65 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: and she's trying to go. I'm like, that's not going 66 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: to cut it now, You're not going to go anywhere 67 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: gonna in many days. No, they would have been good anyway, right, 68 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: not wor talking about the lovely day in Pittsburgh is 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: the bottom line. 70 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: That is the that is the main point here. Warren 71 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: Sharp has put together Matt He's been busy, man, he 72 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: has been since that schedule came out. He's very scheduled. 73 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Orient very schedule oriented, but he's betting oriented and these 74 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: things matter and wins and losses and you know, it 75 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: goes a long way. They really looks deep into these things. 76 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: So he has put together the top five most brutal 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: stretches of the twenty twenty twenty five NFL season. His 78 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: number five stretch is the Dallas Cowboys from Week twelve 79 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: through Week fifteen and they play so in that four 80 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: week stretch they play the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Lions, 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: and the Vikings and the consecutive weeks. 82 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good. There's a lot of wins between 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: them last year. 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also a run in there where they play 85 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: three games in ten days. Oh do only NFL team 86 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't? Now part of that is because they have 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: all those Thursday night games. 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I know that there are 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving team obviously. Yeah. 90 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: There coming out of those weeks where they play the Egles, 91 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: Chief Teams, Lions, and Vikings. Yeah, they also coming out 92 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: of that they play the Chargers and Commanders. 93 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, I mean that has to be the hardest 94 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: six game stretch in the season. Yes, So he's breaking 95 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: his down to four game or just stretches period. 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: I will say this, three of those four games for 97 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Dallas are at home. 98 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: Which makes Givings at home. Yeah, they play the. 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: Eagles at home, the Chiefs at home, the Lions away, 100 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: the Vikings are at home, the Chargers are at home, 101 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: and then they play at Washington. 102 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's off stretch, but that's a little better. 103 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: It's not quite what the Steelers did last. 104 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: Year, right, right, right, So the road stuff and the 105 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: travel was part of the problem. Yeah, here two, no question. 106 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: I mean the first two games of that stretch were 107 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: on the road. 108 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, one in a place you haven't won at since 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: the sixties. 111 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Right, that went on to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. 112 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: I didn't realize any team was playing three and ten. 113 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: They're the only one. They're the only one. Yeah. So 114 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: they go, what Thursday, Thursday, Monday? They go I can't 115 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: see exactly what the okay, what it says here in 116 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: the chart, they play a Sunday Thursday Thursday. Oh okay, okay, 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: that's what it is. So there's a short one on 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: the front end. Yeah. 119 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: Now they do get coming into that Chargers game. They 120 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: then get a little mini buy im at. 121 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: It after the Thursday. Yeh okay, it makes sense. 122 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Number four toughest schedule stretch is for the Steelers. 123 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: The home game. 124 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: This is weeks thirteen through sixteen. Week thirteen, they have 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 2: the Bills at home. They then play the Ravens away. 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: Definitely tough Dolphins at home. Okay, that one doesn't worry 127 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: any much, especially late in the year. But and then 128 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: Lions away on a short week, a short it's a 129 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: six day or they have a full stretch. Lions are 130 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: that team that has the best rest advantage in the 131 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: whole league, and that's one of their games where they 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: have arrested it. It's a difficult stretch. But again, it's 133 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: not like what they did last year. No, no, no, 134 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: I mean that the last year three game was as 135 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: bad as I've ever seen any stretcher. 136 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Those three, those three teams, I mean, that is comparable 137 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: to what. 138 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: Especially with some hindsight realizing two of them went to 139 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 140 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: It's comparable to what Dallas faces this year. But it 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: can Philly incident r yeah, Philly, Kansas City in Detroit. 142 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Especially if phillyard Detroit go or I. 143 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: Mean we're looking at power rankings right now. Those three 144 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: are all in the top. 145 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: Five everyone else's and the Bills are on there too. 146 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: The Bills are in the Steelers. 147 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah right, so the Steelers do it three and four 148 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: weeks where you look at they played three of the 149 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: top five teams. 150 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 3: Over a four week period. Okay, so it's only two. 151 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's in there or not. But 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: that short week on the road in Detroit. There's a 153 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: handful of teams that have two short weeks on the road, 154 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: and the Steelers are one of the ones that have 155 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: the most. It's only two, but still the NFL really 156 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: tries to avoid that. But that's not a great way 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: to end it. 158 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: The Vikings are his third team on here. They have 159 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: a stretch where they play from Week seven to ten 160 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: Eagles at home, Chargers away, Lions away, Ravens at home. 161 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: Pretty harsh. I mean they also back to back Europe games. 162 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: They're a little before that. I assume they have a 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: bye after that by after getting back in week six, 164 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: so's they have a week six by then go into 165 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: that awful stretch or is there a game before that? 166 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: Well that's a little better at Leastah, you know, right, 167 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: if you could beat the Browns by go into that 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: take your lumps. 169 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're looking at the Giants. 170 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I know they have the hardest schedule in the league. 171 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: But what their stretch was Week six through nine? They 172 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: play Philadelphia at home at Denver, brutal Philadelphia away. 173 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Fact, you're hoping like Barkley and Hurts are hurt 174 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: for those. 175 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: Three stretches, and then they host the forty nine ers. 176 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't like. I mean, that's definitely a tough stretch. 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: But again I've said this not for a couple of years, 178 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: especially last year. I don't like all those division games 179 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: being that close. I mean two and three weeks against 180 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: the same team. It can just swayed the power. 181 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Well, there was I think it was during COVID when 182 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: there was a cancelation of a game where two teams 183 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: ended up playing each other back to back. You played 184 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: your home and home back to At. 185 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: Least that wasn't how they wrote it up in the schedule, right. 186 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Right, And the number one toughest stretch this season, according 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: to Warren Sharp, is for the Cincinnati Bengals. No good, 188 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 2: he said, nobody plays a tougher four week stretch, and 189 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: the Bengals this year. This is late in the season 190 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: for the Bengals as well. 191 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: This is weeks. They've been better late than early. 192 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: Thirteen through sixteen. They better not start slowly this year. 193 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: Yah. Here's what they. 194 00:08:52,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: Got at Baltimore at Buffalo who home against Baltimore. 195 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: Wow. So they go Lamar Allen Lamar, Yeah, and then 196 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: they go to Lamar and Allen back to back too. 197 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: But then they go to Miami. 198 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's part of that stretch. 199 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: Now, but I mean those three year as hard as 200 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: it gets. Yeah, so maybe if you took the game 201 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: ahead of it. I mean, I know he's just doing 202 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: four game stretches and the three year awful, which those 203 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: are awful. Man. Again, you're hoping Lamar and Henry are 204 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: hurt for a month. You know. That's Matt Williamson saying that, 205 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: not Dale Ali. I just you're the Bengals. If you're 206 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: the Ravens, you're open Burroughs. Yeah, right right right. I 207 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: mean again, I don't like too the same opponent twice 208 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: in three weeks. 209 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: The one nice thing that they opened the season with 210 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: the Browns, they closed the season with the Browns. All 211 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: they've struggled in Cleveland like nobody else. 212 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: They haven't. I don't know. I think I don't know 213 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: if Burrow's ever won in Cleveland. I think you're right 214 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: about that, now that you say it. I think he's 215 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: like his chances this year. They play him in the 216 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: opener and the opener, although the Bengal has been terrible 217 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: in openers. I mean the first month. They don't play 218 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 3: anybody thing worth watching this year. Yeah. Yeah, like I 219 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: think you'd love to see the Browns beat them again. 220 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: Keep those troubles there. 221 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: Keep them rolling. Then they play, then they're they're at Cleveland. 222 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: We haven't even looked at the other team schedules. 223 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: No, not that much. 224 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: At Cleveland, Jacksonville at home, at Minnesota at Denver, home 225 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: against Detroit at green Bay. 226 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: Then they're home against the Steelers. They're at green Bay 227 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: that week before they host the Steelers in the Thursday 228 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: night game. Oh okay, So at least for their sake, 229 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: they have they have a home Thursday night or which 230 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: you always love. But it's off a road trip. Yeah, 231 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna have Lake. I think that's like 232 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: a I think that's a four to twenty five start too, 233 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: So they're not going to get back from that'll be late, 234 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: flying home from Green Bay, kind of get a practice 235 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: in before the Steelers come to town on Thursday. I 236 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't love that. 237 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: So it's and then they host the Steelers, then they 238 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: get the Jets at home. Then they have the Bears them. 239 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: They say, have three straight home games, okay, which is nice. 240 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: Then they're by a week okay. Then they host sounds. 241 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: Like they have a decent break twice in a row. There. 242 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: They got Steelers ten days off game by. 243 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, coming out of the Bie week. They had the 244 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: Steelers here m hm, the Patriots at home. Then it's 245 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: at Ravens, at Bills, home against the Ravens, at Miami, 246 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: home against the Cardinals, and home against the Browns. 247 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: The last three don't sound bad. The three before the 248 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: last three sound horrific. Horrific. Yeah wow, But now it's 249 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: a good point. I think they better put a little 250 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: bit of money in the bank that first month. They 251 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: never do. 252 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: They lost to the Patriots last year at home. 253 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah they did, they did. And I think New England's better. 254 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: And I don't know that the Bengals are better. Yeah, 255 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean a different coach. 256 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: But if New England comes out there with the same 257 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: kind of game plan. He just says, Hey, we're just 258 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: going to run the ball like crazy. 259 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, keep away. It amazes me that the Bengals, 260 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: they're really their only addition is the the d tackle 261 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: they signed. I mean, I mean other than the draft, 262 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: but I mean terms of free agent money spent on defense, 263 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: it's like none. They just didn't think it was a problem. 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Apparently gave it all to Higgins and they had made 265 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 3: Hendrickson mad. I don't understand now. Zach Taylor said today 266 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: that he's spoken with Tray Hendrickson. No new updates on that, 267 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: but he's spoken good. I mean, he wasn't loving the 268 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: Henderson wasn't loving the conversations he was leading up to. 269 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean they're having you know, exactly right. 270 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Anyways, that was Warren Sharp's top five most difficult schedules. 271 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: That's a tough run for Steelers. There's no questions there. 272 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: They don't have the most which I think last year's 273 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: stretch I don't care who who's looking at it would 274 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: have been the most difficult. 275 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, probably even sitting here before the season starts. 276 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: But in hindsight, it definitely was. Yeah, you know, we 277 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: remember going into the season the Eagles. Well, what are 278 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: the Eagles? We know they'd be good, but we didn't 279 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 3: know that. We were like, oh, they're the best team 280 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: in the league, ye know, in their building where you 281 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: never win. 282 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: Other than that, it was fantastic. 283 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He is the 284 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. 285 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here in the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, 286 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this. 287 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 288 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 289 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 290 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lollie. He is 291 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson Matt. Pro Football Focus has put together 292 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: their rankings of the starting quarterbacks. Oh yeah, the NFL, 293 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: as we sit here today, and they're balking them into 294 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: six tiers and so rightfully. 295 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: So they used Rudolph of the Steelers. That's the only thing. 296 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: I didn't look at any of the rankings. I just 297 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: want to see who they had the Steelers and read 298 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: the right up. But you got to use Rudolf right now. 299 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: I disagree though with what they said about it. So 300 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: he's in tier six with the low end starters and 301 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: not long term options. The only person below him is 302 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck. 303 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again the rookies are so hard to rank. 304 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: Right, But at thirty one they have Mason Rudolph, and 305 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: he said after spending six seasons in Pittsburgh, Rudolph spend 306 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: a year in Tennessee before returning on a two year 307 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: deal with the Steelers. With just eight hundred and fifty 308 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: career dropbacks and only twenty two big time throws to 309 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: his name, Rudolph is firmly established as a career backup. 310 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: Given that the Steelers selected Will Howard in the sixth round, 311 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: it's likely we'll see the rookie take the field before 312 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: the season's over. I would disagree so many people say that. 313 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he won national title last year. I like 314 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: Will Howard as much as the next guy. A six 315 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: round pick is a six round pick. They're going to 316 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: have another quarterback in here, right. 317 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: How many times in the last ten years have these 318 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: national people said, oh, that's six round picks and we 319 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: seeing the field. Never happened, right, I mean, He's party 320 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: needed things to happen, And this is nothing at all 321 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: against Will Howard. No him right, but the are expected 322 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: to start. Yeah. 323 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: The over excitement, uh regarding Will Howard is like they. 324 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: Just fleeced the league. No one heard of him in 325 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: this Steelers draft in the third round, right right. Nobody 326 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: talked about him this way. No right now. 327 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: I understand they had Ben Roethlisberger at the time, but 328 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: nobody was saying, boy that Mason Rudolph. I can't wait 329 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: till he's the starter. 330 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Right. 331 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: They weren't saying he was a third round pick. Now 332 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: they said that about Landry Jones and he was what 333 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: a fourth round pick? 334 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: I have really high hopes for Howard in this regard 335 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: is everyone talks about him like he may be a 336 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: future head coach, you know, like super smart, and I 337 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: keep looking at him like he's Jason Garrett, the Troy Aikman, 338 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: or he's Garrett became head coach, Frank Reich became a 339 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: head coach to Jim Kelly and the Apeman, and Kelly 340 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: to me comes next year, you know, presumably presumably right right, 341 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: and work out. And I've been calling Howard he's next 342 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: year's first rounds picks, caddie, And that would be wonderful. 343 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean, because think about it too let's say they 344 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: draft tooever, not Smyer or whatever, and I don't know 345 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,359 Speaker 3: if they'll take one, but I think it's a real possibility. 346 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: You get here, you're expected to be the starter, you're 347 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: a first round pick. You might have traded up for you. 348 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: But that dude watched Will Howard win the national title 349 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: of the year before too, Like, immediately he has respect 350 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: and he's been in the building. Like, I think he's 351 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: the perfect guy. 352 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: I think about the dynamic that was there between Josh 353 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: Dobbs and Mason Rudolph in their careers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 354 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: those two guys knew each other well before they got here. 355 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know that they had both been to all 356 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: the elite eleven Kames and things of that nature. 357 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: So many of those guys. Yeah, the quarterback. 358 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: Unlike a lot of other positions, the quarterback fraternity, right, 359 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: these guys all know each other. 360 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: They all do to different game. And yeah, if you're 361 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: a top recr if you're a four or five star recruit, 362 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: you know all the other ones. He went to the 363 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: combine together, you know, I mean yeah, And frankly, even. 364 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: If you don't come out necessarily in the same year, 365 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: you were the same grade coming out in one stayed 366 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: in college and one didn't. 367 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: Right, if you're a year or two apart, and needless 368 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: to say, we're old men. When we were that age, 369 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't I'll send you a letter, sonny boy, you know, 370 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: I mean text. Oh yeah, yeah, they're and they're following 371 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: each other on Instagram all that stuff too. 372 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, the other thing that I would say about 373 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: that particular paragraph, Yes, Mason Rudolph has had eight hundred 374 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: and fifty career dropbacks and just twenty two big time 375 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: throws his first year as a starter. They didn't want 376 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: him trying anything crazy. 377 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, that's definitely true. 378 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: When he did, for example, the game against the Lions 379 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: when he had to fill in when Roethlisberger tested positive 380 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: for COVID the night before the game. 381 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: Right right right, he had like no prep. 382 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: They didn't want him trying any big time throws. I 383 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: think if you're going to look at Mason Rudolph's quote 384 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: unquote big time throws, you have to look at the 385 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: stretch that he played end of the year two years 386 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: ago and then what he did last year with the Titans. 387 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: So take a step further. You kind of beat me 388 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: to it. Is I bet a very high percentage of 389 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: his big time throws came in that stretch right before 390 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: he left the Steelers, you know. I mean I would 391 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: bet everything, or even leading into the Jets game when 392 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: he got hurt again, because he was starting to kind 393 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: of turn the corner there too. I'm on plying circumstances matter, right, 394 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: and in Tennessee it's hard to make big time throws 395 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: behind the worst offensive line of league. 396 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: The receivers that just aren't aren't pretty pretty good right 397 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: that too. But I just remember Kevin Colbert talking about 398 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: that stretch in twenty nineteen when they had to start 399 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph in Duck Hodges, and he said, look, we 400 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: we figured and this was after the fact, we figured 401 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: that as a defense we had to hold the other 402 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: team to seventeen or fewer points. 403 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: When Masons remember that, Okay, when it was. 404 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: Duck Hodges in there, we had to hold the other 405 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: team to thirteen or fewer points. 406 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: It's a big difference. It's a huge, huge difference. 407 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, But you're saying, you're what you're saying, though, is 408 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: you don't think think your quarterback is going to get 409 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: you twenty He's going to get you twenty and that's 410 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: that's probably the ceiling right right right, That's what it 411 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: was in twenty nineteen with Mason Rudolph. It was even 412 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: less than that when Duck Hodges was in there, which 413 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: is why it's amazing to me that there were so 414 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: many people backing Duck Hodges as start again. 415 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: Nothing against Duck Hodges. No, it's a little bit like 416 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: now I should even go down this road. It was 417 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: a little bit like Fields versus Wilson, like last year. 418 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: The defense was so much better when Fields was in there, 419 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: and it resulted and wins, not the Fields played bad. 420 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take Fields over Duck ninety nine out 421 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: of you know, ninety times. I mean obviously, but sometimes 422 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: it's circumstantial too, like the defense stepped up like crazy, 423 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: What was it? It's how you play the game. When 424 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: Bradshaw got hurt and no one ever like crossed midfield, 425 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that the backup was better than to start 426 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: that guy right right. 427 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: Right, and he's throwing eight passes a game exactly. 428 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: And contrary to popular belief, I think Tomlin's proven that 429 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: he coaches to his quarterback a lot. If I'm gonna 430 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: have doctor Rudolph. I'm not going to have him throw 431 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: deep downfield over the middle. 432 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: That's one of the that's one of the things that 433 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: is a misnomer out there about Toman. 434 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: Oh. He won't let his quarterbacks do this. He won't 435 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: let his quarterbacks do that. 436 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: No, when he trusts the quarterback, Nobody was saying that 437 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: they were too conservative when he had Ben Roethlisberger and 438 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown. If anything, it was wow, 439 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: are they Why are they going for all these two 440 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: point conversions? 441 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: Why are they going for out of the game it's 442 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: six nothing and they're going for two, you know, because 443 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: they were the best offense in the league. Giver. 444 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, do we forget that Ben Roethlisberger 445 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: threw six touchdown passes him back to back games, Like 446 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 2: in one of them when he outdueled Andrew Luck there 447 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: were nine touchdown passes in the game because and he 448 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: kept the foot on the gas because he's looking on 449 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: the other sideline and seeing Luck over there throwing warm 450 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: on the stand warm on the other sideline, Like, hey, 451 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: we got to keep scoring, right right. 452 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: I mean, even like Belichick is such a defensive minded dude, 453 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: that early Patriot Belichick. They were very conservative until he 454 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: realizes Brady for fifty touchdown passes. I can, I'll go 455 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: for it. On four and two in my own end, 456 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: went against Peyton Manning and people thought he was bonkers, 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: you know, like the same thing like I can't give 458 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: the ball back to Manning. You know I got a 459 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: guy too, you know at thirty and over the middle 460 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: stuff too makes me crazy, Like that's a Russell Wilson issue. 461 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: I mean, Arthur Smith wants to throw the ball between 462 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: the numbers, and this year they will a lot more. 463 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: I have no doubt my mind. Thirty is Anthony Richardson, Okay, 464 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: it's gotta be low. 465 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: Twenty nine is Joe Flacco. Yeah, and even if that's 466 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, I still think it's twenty nine. 467 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, low end starters and not long term options. That's 468 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: what they're calling him. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's fair. Uh. 469 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Tier five is veterans capable of solid play but could 470 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: quickly be replaced. Twenty six on that list is Sam Darnold. 471 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean you can listen to all my mill 472 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: roads of I don't think Locke's going to replace them, 473 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: and Nowhere would have to blow their socks off and 474 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: replace them. Twenty seventies rus will being replaced. Wilson could 475 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: quickly be replaced. Twenty eight is justin Fields. Yeah, but 476 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: by who I mean the quickly. 477 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: They're not saying quickly replaced this year. 478 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: They're saying maybe, yeah, okay, okay, that's fair. That okay, 479 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: then Donald even qualifies. 480 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: Would that be where you would put Aaron Rodgers if 481 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: he signs with the Steelers, him. 482 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: And Wilson should probably be on the same tier. But 483 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: like Fields and Donald are different than Wilson and Rogers. 484 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: I mean, one's going to the Hall of Fame and 485 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: one might be going to the Hall of fame. Those 486 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: guys are struggling. Donald's have one good year. Here's the 487 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: here's the problem. Ye, here's the problem with their quote 488 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: unquote rankings. Yeah, it's really just tears. I would say 489 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: these are really really. 490 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: Rankings because Tier four is young players with a wide 491 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: range of potential outcomes. 492 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: So that's not Aaron Rodgers, no, but it is Rogers 493 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: would be in the other tier. 494 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: So at nineteen is bo Nick's, twenty is Bryce Young, 495 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: twenty one is JJ McCarthy. I don't know why he's 496 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: ahead of some of these other guys. Twenty two is 497 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: Drake May, twenty three is Michael Pennock, but I get it. 498 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: Twenty four is Caleb Williams. 499 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: They all should be in the same tier, and twenty 500 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: five is Camera and I said I'd have order with 501 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: them too. I don't know if these are in alphabetic 502 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 3: I guess that doesn't mean that they're all better than 503 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: they're not. I go Wilson Donald, I mean, like Donald's 504 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: better than some of those guys. 505 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you put JJ McCarthy over some 506 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: of these other guys. 507 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: Agreed, who actually like the idea of throwing them all 508 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: in buckets. So yeah, put them all in these tiers. 509 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: This is the type of quarterback they are. But again, 510 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: Fields and Donald aren't the same as Wilson to me, 511 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: in that tier, and Fields and Darnald aren't the same 512 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: as Rogers if you were in that tier either. I 513 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: mean one of them's at the end of their career 514 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: and one of them's hoping to get a career going. 515 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: Tier three B is solid as starters, but they need 516 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: more help. Fair okay, that is Jordan Love, Yeah, Baker Mayfield, 517 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, Okay, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott 518 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: to at Tago Vila. 519 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: It's kind of a wide range there though. Yeah, I 520 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: might break them up into two more tiers, you know, 521 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm not suggesting Love or Lawrence is a tier 522 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: ahead of them, but they I think they could get there, 523 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: you know, Like, I don't know if Baker can get 524 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: any better, and he's been a success. 525 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: You know again, honestly, if I were going to put 526 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Rogers in a tier, it would be with that girl. 527 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I was kind of thinking that too, Like 528 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: give him a nice supporting cast. 529 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: He's not He's not the elevator that he once was, right, 530 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: but he can still make some big time throws a lot. 531 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: Better than Davante showed up in New York. Yeah, you 532 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's there. Yeah, I might 533 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: put him in there too. Uh. 534 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: Tier three a as solid starters who have flashed high 535 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: end play. That is Jared Goff, Gino Smith, Rock Purty. 536 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: I can see why you put all three of them 537 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: in their own tier. Flashing high end plays were like, 538 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: you kind of lost me on those guys, though they're 539 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: more consistent. You know, that implies that there's peaks and valleys, 540 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: and I don't see a lot of valleys, and I 541 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: don't think I could make the argument that some of 542 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: the guys that are in Tier three B have done 543 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: more like Love has flashed big time. Yeah, he's flashed. 544 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has definitely flashed, right right, right, No, Dak 545 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: Prescott has flashed. 546 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean even for stretches, like when he's 547 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: been healthy in the last three or four years. He 548 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: might be the best player of any of the ones we 549 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: mentioned in either tier. Yeah, more so than Gino Smith. Yeah, right, 550 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: right right, Like if we put both those tiers. 551 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: If you're ranking those two tiers together, Gino might be 552 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: last on the list in terms of the overall quarterback. 553 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: Play, especially if you're talking about flashes, Like if you 554 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: just show me your best fifty throws in the last 555 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: two years, yeah, I mean some of those guys would 556 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: be like, Wow, they made a lot of really good stuff. 557 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: Tier two high end starters, Okay. Jalen Hurts, Yeah, I 558 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: think he's there now. Jaden Daniels where you have to 559 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: put him, Matthew Stafford, Yeah, justin Herbert. 560 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: I wouldn't argue any of those. Would you put Stroud there? 561 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: Not after last year people were putting him there. Oh 562 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: a year ago he was like Daniels. That's what made 563 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 3: me think about it. 564 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: There were some struggles last year, there was a lot 565 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: of it. 566 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: I blame those around him, mostly protection. 567 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: At the same time, you're responsible for what you put 568 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: out on tape. 569 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: As I say, the last month five six weeks though, 570 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: it looked like he lost his fastball slash, lost faith 571 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 3: in those around him, was dropping. Is part of the 572 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: that's you're the court right right, right right. Those can't 573 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: do those things right even when times are tough. Yeah, 574 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: you have to. I think he could easily get back 575 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, yeah, right right, and I kind of 576 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: bet he will. And that leads us with the Tier 577 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: one guys, the elite Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen. They're the four. Yeah. 578 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: I think that almost goes without saying. Yeah, I forget 579 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: what quarterback we listed a couple of weeks ago, or 580 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: one of them was. 581 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Daniel was two that sports that was ridiculous. 582 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: It was really bad. Yeah, but those four standalone. If 583 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: you want to fight about the order, fight about the order. 584 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: But those four, to me are the elite. And maybe 585 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I know this is going to kind of 586 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: sound blasphemous, might go down NFL history is one of 587 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: the best groups we've ever seen. I mean Brady, Manning, 588 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: ben Breeze. I mean, there's some awesome ones that all 589 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: played together that were in the who's the what's the 590 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: best era of Tier one quarterbacks that we can remember? 591 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: This group starting to make some noise. 592 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't have the depth because you see when the 593 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: one you just mentioned they all have rings, they all 594 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: have rings. You know, throw Rogers and Farv into that 595 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: because they overlap right right. 596 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: Right, you know, right like if you could pick a 597 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: three or four year stretch of boy, those are the 598 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: clear you know tier one guys. How does that compare 599 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: to nineteen eighty three or nineteen ninety three or you 600 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I think it's pretty darn good group. Yeah, 601 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: but you're right, I mean Manning, Brady, ben Breeze, Rogers, 602 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of rings, a lot of MVPs, and yeah, yeah, 603 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: it's tough to That's the thing about the Borough Lamar 604 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: Allen thing is I think they're on Hall of Fame paces, 605 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: but getting a ring goes a long way to solidify, 606 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: and you like on this it's tough top ten quarterback list, 607 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: or you know, let alone, like a Mount Rushmore. 608 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: When one guy is monopolizing on getting there. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 609 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: it's a difficult on all the other guys. 610 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: Extremely, extremely you know, it's. 611 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: It's like being an AFC quarterback in the early two 612 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: thousands to you know, twenty eighteen it was. 613 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: Or the seventies it was. 614 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an entire stretch of Brady Manning and 615 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: roethlisbern right with a flat. 616 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: There throw right, which really wasn't I mean, he was good, 617 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: but it wasn't like he was with those guys. Yeah, 618 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: never in that tier even the best. The reality of it. Yeah, 619 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: it's not a bad list. I mean, it's not real list. 620 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: It's not a bad buckets. There's a couple of the 621 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: way I think I would put. 622 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: Rogers may be in somewhere at the bottom of Tier 623 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: three B. 624 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: Would you take that if he played like a three 625 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: B quarterback for twenty two Look at. 626 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: The quarterbacks that are in there, Love Mayfield, Stroud, Murray, 627 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence Dak, Prescott, Tago. 628 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: Vi Law. Yeah, if you had a Mayfield Dak like 629 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: season out of him, you're a contender. 630 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: One of the things that drives me crazy about people 631 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: talking about the Steelers signing Aaron Rodgers. Well, Beanie Bishop 632 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: picked him off twice last year. As if Beanie Bishop 633 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: went up and just plucked the ball out of the 634 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: air on both on both of those, cass. One of 635 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: those he did, he made a nice play on the football. 636 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: The other one bounced off of Garrett Wilson's chest on 637 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: a throw that was right where it needed to be. 638 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: The ball hits off of Wilson's chests and it bounces 639 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: back into the hands of Beanie Bishop. 640 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same argument. I got this a 641 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: bunch too from Penn State fans. Boy, I hope the 642 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: Steelers don't take genty. I watched him against the Nitley Lions. 643 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: He couldn't go anywhere. Yeah, he had the four of 644 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: us blocking for him, and he still ran for like 645 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten yards or something all on his own, 646 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: Like everybody on your home team game. Again, it's the 647 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson argument. Yeah, yeah, everybody in the stadium knew 648 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: that guy's getting the ball right everybody it's Abdul Carter, 649 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: and I mean it's pros all across the front. 650 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: I asked, I go ask the guy brushing off the seats, 651 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, for the fans coming to Hey, who's getting 652 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: the ball today? 653 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, watch boy, I don't want no Vechkin because he 654 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: didn't score against the Pens last week. I made like 655 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: he'd just watched the one game and the Beanie Bishop 656 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: things a perfect example. It was like Rogers did that 657 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: every week, and. 658 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: One of them wasn't his fault, and one of them 659 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: wasn't his fault. Yeah, yeah, the other one, Beanie Bishop 660 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: made a hell of a play on the floe, right right, 661 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: right right. 662 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: Give him credit. 663 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: But let's not pretend, Oh, Beanie Bishop picked him off twice. 664 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: He must stink. Yeah, come on, It doesn't mean he's 665 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: gonna throw thirty four picks if he plays seventeen games. No, anyways, 666 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williams 667 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: of the play against Beanie Bishop. That's true. 668 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the 669 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: Driver on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be 670 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 671 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on 672 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 673 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: gold Steelers Nation. 674 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: Radio and we are back. I am Dale LOLLI. He 675 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. 676 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: Matt. 677 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: We talked yesterday about the league meetings starting today in Minneapolis, 678 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: and uh word is leaked out. As I said, it 679 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: probably would that the league is expected to pass the 680 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: or approve the resolution to allow players to compete in 681 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: the Olympic Flag. 682 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: Wow. I really didn't think they would, but I actually 683 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: did think about it since we got together. 684 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: I just I think I wonder how many if the 685 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: league looks again distances we're talking about two guys. 686 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was also thinking there's such a push 687 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: on international exposure and international flag football fan flag football 688 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: for that matter, which is a great sport. Yeah, that's okay. 689 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: You know, let's promote it with Tyreek Hill or you 690 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: know whatever, you know. 691 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Or it's not gonna be Tyreek Hill at that point, 692 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: would be like thirty five. 693 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah by the time it comes. But right, you 694 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: kill that. There are other fast guys insert fun player here, 695 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. However, whoever, he's somebody who's 696 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: still playing in college right now. Absolutely the Ohio state 697 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: wide receiver. Yeah, yeah, okay, it'd be pretty good. I 698 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: would think about a little fast guys, but how about 699 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: real big. 700 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: Fast Yeah here in Japan, try to cover this guy. 701 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy by the way, Smith, like, I think 702 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 3: he would be the first pick in like any draft 703 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: and can't even come out next year. Yeah, he's gonna 704 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 3: come out as a twenty year old and be like 705 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: the back to back best receiver in football for vollege 706 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: football for a while. 707 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: The kid of Alabama's pretty really good too. 708 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: Right. It's a strong group. 709 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's just what the league is putting out. 710 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, just not this year, this past year, yeah right right. 711 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: In fact, that's somebody brought up on the message board 712 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: over the weekend that well, you know, I don't understand 713 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: the trading at George Pickens. They're not going to find 714 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: anybody who is who is as good as George Pickens. 715 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, they get the draft next right. I Mean 716 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: we always talk about the first round pick is being a quarterback, 717 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: but it could be the third best receiver. 718 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: George Pickers was a second round pick. Yeah, you know, 719 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: you can find wide receivers. 720 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this past year was a little thin in free agency, 721 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: and doesn't mean they all will be yea, it doesn't 722 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: mean they all will be that's gonna be a position 723 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: that constantly gets This. 724 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: Was really this, I mean, this was an anomaly. 725 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: This was the glitch. 726 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: Like if you look back over the last almost ten years, Yeah. 727 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: Say going back to the Odell Evans Allan Robinson that 728 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 3: was a loaded I want to say, that's like twenty 729 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: fourteen ish something like that. Ever since, almost every draft, 730 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: but this past one has been whoa. Yeah. Yeah. 731 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean there aren't guys you miss on, right, 732 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: but I mean there have been dudes. 733 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: I mean, so we just started a series on our 734 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: podcast where we're just gonna kind of break down the 735 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: first round and we gave it three years to marinate. 736 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: So we started with twenty twenty two and we'll go 737 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one tomorrow. It's the Picket Draft. Yeah, 738 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: but it's like within four picks, was in this order, 739 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: I think London Wilson, a Lave, Jamison Williams, and they 740 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: all went from like eight to twelve and then you 741 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: get like Barks that wasn't so great, But that was 742 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: the Pickens Draft, right, you know, like there was a 743 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: lot of receivers in that draft and that's kind of 744 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: the norm. Yeah, and none of those guys were even 745 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: like a Jamar Chase or Harrison or neighbors like prospect. 746 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's what the league is putting out. 747 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: So we'll see about the whole flag football thing. But 748 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 3: that's interesting. 749 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know how many people were on a 750 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: flag football How many people would you carry on an 751 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Olympic flag football roster? 752 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: That's a big question I had too, is like do 753 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: you have does everyone play both ways? Twelve? Okay, there 754 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: you tv to it said twelve. So if there's twelve 755 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: players on Olympic, I assume it's six on six. That's 756 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: how we used to play, is yea? Our kids were 757 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 3: six too. 758 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: So maybe you could flip out some offense for defense 759 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 760 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: I think I would think. 761 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: So at most, what are they going to have four 762 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: or five NFL players? 763 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Olympic, the US Olympic team will have 764 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: a dozen dudes on it. Okay, and maybe half of 765 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: them are. 766 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: NFL ers Maybeah, it's a different game. 767 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: You think the quarterbacks will maybe a backup maybe a backup. Yeah, 768 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: Like I don't think my home is doing like Tyler 769 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: Huntley right right, right right? Yeah, Okay, and that doesn't 770 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 3: even mean like that. 771 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: I've seen video of the guy who's the current quarterback 772 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 2: for the whatever them. 773 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah he's good. I bet he's real good. 774 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: He's really shifty, but he's one hundred and forty pounds. 775 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: I bet he's smaller, shifty type guy. I wonder if 776 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 3: what'd even ball they use. I doubt it's an NFL ball, 777 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: might be a little smaller. I don't know, little need 778 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: I need to learn more about it, but yeah, I 779 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: don't know a clue what the rules are for adults. 780 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about six year olds is the 781 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: last time. But it won't be all NFL players. No, 782 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some really good ones that are not 783 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: thrilled about this, but they're also going to keep their spot. 784 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and the other thing about it. We're talking 785 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: about twenty twenty eight. Yes, that's three years from that. 786 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: I don't think any NFL or gets this news today 787 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: and be like, I'm gonna start training for flag. 788 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: It might kind of my point about Tyreek Hill. He's 789 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: thirty thirty one. Now those can do this when he's 790 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty five. 791 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: Right right right now, Maybe someone says I'm hanging it up, 792 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: but I kind of have a little left. I might 793 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: try out. Yeah, it's Tom Brady gonna come out of 794 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: retirement at fifty and slinging around, slinging around on the 795 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 3: Olympic team. No, Aaron Rodgers is going to come out 796 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: at forty five and you know right, yeah, no, I 797 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: would imagine not It's a different game. I have no 798 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: idea how to take it. You know, like, are they 799 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: gonna look for two way players? Are they going to 800 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: look for just speed? Are they going to who's even 801 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: a lot of interest? Realistically, if the if the United 802 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 3: States wants to go, hey, we could just we're gonna 803 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 3: put twelve NFL players on, Oh, it'd be a dreaming team. 804 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: Maybe Jordan Byrd and magic and right, they would still dominate. 805 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 3: They would still dominate, right, I mean yes, if it's 806 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase or are the receivers that'd 807 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 3: be pretty to flag football catching balls from Jaydeen Daniels. 808 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: You know, he's right perfect for that game. McCaffrey's the 809 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 3: running back or whatever, you know, someone that can catch 810 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: an run or whatever. Yeah, Jamar Gibbs, Jamir Gibbs, I'm 811 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: sure whoever the running back on team Usa is really good, 812 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: but I'll take Gibbs over him or Bijon. Even if 813 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: you can't break tackles, A chan might be perfect cha, 814 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: right right, you could come up with a ton of 815 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: he who. 816 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 2: Give me the guys who ran the fastest forties at 817 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: the combine. I'm gonna put all them out there, right 818 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 2: right right. It would be The game is predicated on speed, 819 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: that's what it is. 820 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: So you don't take Henry, but he probably wouldn't be bad. Yeah, 821 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: nobody's going to gay. I got to reach in here 822 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 3: and grab that flag, right, I mean he could still 823 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: run and get upfield, right, Yeah, anyways, interesting, Yeah, that's 824 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 3: gonna do it for our number one. 825 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back with our number two 826 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: of the drive right after this.