1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: with her radio. Welcome to the almost Famous podcast. We're 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: here for another episode. Ashley I Connetti, the wonderful, the talented, 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: the spunky. How is your How was your holiday weekend? 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: It was wonderful. Um. We just went over to her 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: friend's house. She had the most cute Instagram where these spread. Um. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: It was in Arlington, Virginia, so we got to see 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: the fireworks from her rooftop, which was really cool. And 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like the National fireworks, which is really awesome. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: I've only seen them a couple of times, even though, 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: like I've grown up in Virginia, I've only gone to 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: see the DC fireworks couple of times because you know, 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: it's crazy, um to get in there and all that, um, 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and like, other than that, pretty relaxing laid by the pool. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Lois floated out on the pool with Jared, which is 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: really cute. But that's about it. What about you? Well, 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: I am back in Indie, Sienna on the lake Whyno Lake, 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Indiana represent I'm here right now looking out at the lake. Uh. 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: And I just came off the boat to do this podcast. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: So that's something. Now, Jessica's family, uh came in, so 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: her parents both came in. They did that last year 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: and then uh, Jessica's here still they left and my 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: parents so we did three full days agether it was 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: a blast, like we had an amazing time. Why not. 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: No lake really does Fourth of July in a big way. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of so a lot of families around here 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: call it like their designated Christmas um because kids go 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: off and do different things. They don't want to come 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: back to Indiana for the winner. And so this is 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: where like families get together, they do their big dinners. 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: They do like I'll like the kids come in. Here's 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the crazy part and this has no I really don't 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: want this to come off judgmental, um, but I'm a 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: huge fan of fireworks. I grew up. I just love 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: lighting of firework and see explodes, seeing the colors, seeing 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna do. It's always a surprise. There's like just 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: a like a mystery to it and like a power 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: to It's it's a great thing right to do. I 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: really enjoy. I don't understand the idea of fireworks. So, 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: for example, our neighbor here in the lake, uh lives 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: a couple of houses down he bought ten thousand dollars 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: with the fireworks and an incredible show that he put on. 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: An incredible show. I mean it's beautiful and the whole 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: neighborhood gets together to the watch it. But I just 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: so it feels like professional fireworks, like when you go 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: to like somewhere that the town puts on. I mean, yeah, 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: you would never know or there firecracks. What's the worst 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: in firecrackers and fireworks? And like fireworks are the big ones, 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: then firecrackers are the little things you buy the stands. Yeah, yeah, 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: firecrackers are the things that like Jessica lights off, she's 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: allowed to buy fireworks in Indiana. Oh yeah, we do. 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: It depends on the stage. Yeah, it depends on the state. 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Well we have. I mean the whole lake was full 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: of them at night, uh during the fourth So yes, 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: you can definitely buy him here. But nothing really says 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: like America like ten th dollars going up in flames 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: and like five minutes, you know, it just feels wild 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: and and every sort of the way. Now again there's 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: nothing like it's a really incredible thing to watch, but 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: then when you're done, you're like whoa like that. That 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: was just a lot of money up in the air, 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just a weird time. Okay, whatever, 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: whatever you want to spend your money on. I guess hey, 64 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: why not. Well, hey, it was a good holiday weekend. 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: The weather is nice in Indiana. But we did take 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: some time to sit down with all of you to 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: talk about this week's episode of the Bachelorette. It continues 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: to be a great season. Katie continues to be a 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: terrific bachelorette. We're here to break it down for you 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: right now, but before we do, we want to wish 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: you all a great holiday weekend, a great week. But 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and we'll come back with 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: almost same as podcasts. Alright, guys, it is time to 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: recap episode five of Katie season. Um. Alrighty, Well, this 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: is actually like a really simple step by step episode, 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: very classic. We had our one on one, we had 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: our group date, we had another one on one, and 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: we had a roast ceremony, and really there wasn't a 79 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: ton of drama. The biggest, you know, topic number one 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: is definitely Blake coming in. I liked the way that 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: they started out with Caitlin taking a walk and being like, so, 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: how was it when Nick came on? And just having 83 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: that relatability factor and having Caitlyn there for her that 84 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. I like that. And then 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: I liked the fact that Taitia came in and in 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: your kind of like previewed what was going to happen 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: to the guys by saying like I know this, I like, 88 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: I trust him, I hope, and and like I'm vouching 89 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: for him here. So like, I think that was kind 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: of her way of saying, like, let's not make this 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: so dramatic right now. Um, and the guys really like 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: they didn't I didn't really freak out. I think they 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: kind of obeyed what she wanted. Yeah, I found this 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: is an interesting part. And tell me if I'm crazy, Ashley, 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: but Blake walks in, you would expect the guys to 96 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: be shocked, every one of them to be shocked. They 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: were very prepared by what said. I think I think 98 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: they were very prepared. I don't think they were happy 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: about it, but this would be a moment, as like 100 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: a bachelorette and bachelor, that you're really seeing how like 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: you're judging how people react, you're kind of watching and 102 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: seeing Okay, who here seems like overly angry? Who see 103 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: here seems just like completely like jealous. Who here isn't 104 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: happy about it? Like nobody is happy that anybody else 105 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: is there, but they're handling it like that's This is 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: one of those controversial pivot points that we talked about 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: every season that I feel like she was probably watching 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: who hands like how did the people handle it? Now? 109 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: And we knew this was going to happen, and I'm 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: glad it did. I don't think it was good for 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: the guys, but for them him didn't get a one 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: on one before somebody else like that would have probably 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: disappointed me personally. If I was one of those guys, 114 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I would have just been like a little bumped. Do 115 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: you remember what happened with Nick on Caitlin season when 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: did he get his first one on one? Well, we 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: it was a different story with Nick, because doesn't it 118 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: feel so much different a little bit? But we also 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: found out uh dirt, like when Nick came in. I 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: forget how exactly, so don't quiz me on it. But 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: I do remember knowing that Nick and Caitlin had talked 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: before and had probably seen each other, like within the 123 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, And so we knew that Nick 124 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: and Caitlin had a history of some kind. We didn't 125 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: know the extent, We didn't know how much they had talked, 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: but we knew they had some history when he came on, 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: and so it was less of a just one more 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: guy thing two more of oh my gosh, like he's 129 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna walk in and sweep this thing away, like we're 130 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: all done, like they they were dating before the show. 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: This has all been one big set up. Now we 132 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: find out it wasn't, like, but that was going through 133 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: our minds at the time. That's what all the guys 134 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes were talking about, like, Hey, did we 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: just get totally like set up here? Now we obviously 136 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: didn't and they didn't play out like that. Yeah, So 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: Blake gets the one on one and I think it 138 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: went exactly how we assumed it would go, really well. 139 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: You know, they proved to be pretty compatible. And she 140 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: said like she can imagine walking out of this thing 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: with him, which is pretty huge. Uh, And I kind 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: of I can see it too, Like I think like 143 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Blake went to top three, top yeah, top three in 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 1: that day. Can we talk about something for a moment 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't brought up, and it could just be my insecurities. 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: But I had watched two full seasons. It's soon as 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I started to get asked, Hey, do you are you 148 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: interesting to be on the show? I started to watch 149 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: as many season as I could on television. And you 150 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and I have both admitted that when you show up 151 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and you meet the bachelor or Bachelor, they, in a 152 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of ways feel like a celebrity. You're nervous, You've 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: seen him on TV, you've seen him on the cover 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: of magazines, and now you're there in front of them, 155 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: and for a short pid period of time, you're very 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of star struck in a way. Is there any 157 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: of that going on with Katie meeting Blake? Like she 158 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: had watched him on television, she had watched his season. 159 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Now she has already been on but then you know, 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: he kind of comes in and she already knows a 161 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: bit about him. Like, is there an infatuation with Oh, 162 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I've watched you on TV? Could that be playing into this? Yeah? No, 163 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Like I get it, but like Katie is also on 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the same level, if not higher, Like people are going 165 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: to make it like that like she's the star here, 166 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: so like, does the star really get star struck by 167 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the supporting character? Yes, I don't think. Actually I've told 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: you this. I was star struck when I met you 169 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: the you know you know this, like when I met you, 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: you know this the first time I met you as 171 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: and I was already announced announced the bachelor, or at 172 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: least I was knowing I was going to become the bachelor, 173 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: like they had already kind of told me. I met 174 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: you the first time. I remember that day, and I go, 175 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: I've watched her on television, like I know this human 176 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: like it's it's just a thing. Like I don't think 177 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: there's like a hierarchy here. Okay, okay, so two different 178 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: ways of seeing it. I don't know that that's really 179 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: playing a role here. I think there is a benefit 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: to their being, um there being like a familiar rare 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: how do you say that word of familiarity? Yeah, just 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: kind of role the RNL and then just keep going, 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: yeah with this person like you feel like you already 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: kind of know them, which I feel like makes conversation 185 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: easier because you can kind of use what you already 186 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: know fair enough. And and and there there was just like, uh, 187 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: I felt like there was a on this to their 188 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: first interaction. I felt like there's a calmness to this date. 189 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I think they both knew how to date on this show. 190 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I think that has an advantage like that. That's also 191 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: what I mean when it's a familiarity, just like an 192 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: ease the experience. Yeah, how far did he go on 193 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: Tatious season? Pretty far? Um? I think he was top 194 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: five Okay, which is wild. It's funny He's like, I 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: haven't felt this way in the longest time, Like, so, 196 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: you didn't feel that way about Tasia and it didn't 197 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: feel that way about Claire even though you said it. Um. 198 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I think it's also kind of crazy that it keeps 199 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: saying that he was like dumb this twice before. It's like, no, 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: he didn't. He was on a season where the league 201 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: dropped out. He was on one season before not to 202 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: let's not make it seem like that. I do think, 203 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, from what I'm watching on television, I mean, 204 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the biggest controversy with Blake is gonna be I mean, 205 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's done in his personal life, 206 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be, Oh, you're just out to date 207 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. That's gonna be the thing that everybody's talking about. Now. 208 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't really buy that, because I think this is 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: a a good opportunity. I think the bachelorets are always 210 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: incredible people, and so of course you would want to 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: date them, and if you get the opportunity, like, go 212 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: for it, your single, give it a shot. I'm not 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: I just also and I'm assuming this. I don't know 214 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: Blake at all. Never met him. Uh he we did interview. Okay, 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: well that's it. But I feel like he's a hopeless romantic. 216 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I feel like he is. It's easy for him to 217 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: become very interested in somebody because he wants to like 218 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: fall him up? Now does he Is he going to? 219 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that's why you probably 220 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: see him going, oh my gosh, I really like Claire, 221 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I really like Tasia, Oh my gosh, 222 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: I really like like Katie. Like I don't think that's 223 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: hard for him to get to. I think he's probably 224 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: in it most times when he meets somebody as incredible 225 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: as those three. Yeah, and also, let's remind everyone that 226 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: he also slid into Claire's d MS before the show. 227 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: He's a little d M slider. There you go. So 228 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 1: was I uh, he was actually eliminated seventh seventh okay, seventh, okay? Well, um, 229 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: anything else to say about that? Well, I think we 230 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: should point out that Katie did bring up her sexual 231 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: assault history again one on one with Blake. She brought 232 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: it up during the date with the group date with 233 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Nick and I and it's I think it's just important 234 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: that like all these guys know about that. And I 235 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: think what an incredible thing for Katie to do. To know, 236 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: it's bringing awareness to something that so many have to 237 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: suffer through and are healing from, and she took this 238 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to do it. And I mean, I think the 239 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: amount of conversations around it, and then also the promotion 240 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: of RAIN and some of the organizations that people can 241 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: support who are going out to help, is really incredible. 242 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I she falls in love. I hope this 243 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: is a great love story if all, If that doesn't 244 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: work out, A huge win for this season and for 245 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Katie's kind of legacy on The Bachelor is to bring 246 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: these conversations to a head so that we can start 247 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: having him again. I think that the fact that she 248 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: brings up that she wanted to pursue a relationship, and 249 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: she went after that guy so intensely afterwards is a 250 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: part of the story that is probably relatable to a 251 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of women, and that's something that nobody talks about, 252 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: just so that she like had a different sense about 253 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: the experience. But well, she's uh and and you know, 254 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed watching Katie. I think the way she's 255 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: navigated this thing, uh, not perfectly, but who does. But 256 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: just it's been really I'm really engaged in her season, 257 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: uh and kind of how she's navigating it and how 258 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: she's dealing with these conversations and what she's bringing the light, uh, 259 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: and who she's choosing and who she's not choosing. So 260 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Katie's done extremely well. And then you know, we see 261 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the end of this day. Are you shocked at all 262 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that Blake gets a rose? I'm assuming not. And you 263 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: just made this comment you think he's jumped up to 264 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: top three? Wow? Yeah, because I think like top I 265 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: think top four is Greg Andrew, Blake and Michael. Yeah. 266 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think Connor b was up 267 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: there for me. He's definitely dropped down, Yeah, dropped. I 268 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: don't think she's not attracted to him. Yeah, I think 269 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: he's dropped. He had a great first impression, but we've 270 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of seen how that first impression can fade and 271 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: and so I don't I'm with you. I'm looking at 272 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: these names right now. Season there is it happens, uh, 273 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: and so we've gotten to see these other stories kind 274 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: of be highlighted. Well, then we have a group date. 275 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: After Blake gets to Rose, we have a group date 276 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: and it has Greg, Courtney, Aaron, Mike, p Michael, a Andrew, 277 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: m Josh, Justin, Brendan j Names, Connor, Betray and Hunter. 278 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: That is a big group of people. How do we 279 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: have this many people still left? Well, a lot of 280 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: them we don't really know. And I do feel like 281 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: this Rose ceremony cut out a lot of the guys 282 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: that we didn't have any sort of attachment to. Uh. 283 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: This was one of those athletic group dates which we 284 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: all you know, someone always gets hurt. The big takeaway 285 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: here during this is that Hunter is like crazy aggressive 286 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: and he thinks he's impressing Katie by like tackling these 287 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: guys and annoying and annoying them. And then Michael gets 288 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: hurt and Katie calls the game, and she brought up 289 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the point that if Michael had to go to the hospital, 290 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: he would have been debubbled, right, he would have been 291 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: taken out of the bubble and then not allowed back in. 292 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: How crazy is that. I didn't think about that at all? 293 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: How I mean, Yeah, A whole new element to this 294 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: experience is like you can't get hurt, which surprises me 295 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: that the show is so willing to put. Mean, We've 296 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of dates so far that people definitely 297 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: could have got hurt at. Like, I'm shocked that somebody 298 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: hasn't got seriously injured at him wrestling. Uh this, I mean, 299 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: You've grown humans going full speed at each other, some 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: to like destroy the other person. Like, I mean, I'm 301 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: surprised the show is taking that risk, but I guess 302 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: it does add a dramatic element. But if Michael would 303 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,479 Speaker 1: have gone home, I honestly think Bachelor Nation just completely 304 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: like erupts like that they are so angry he is 305 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: he has to if he's not a kiddie, he has 306 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: to be considered for the next Bachelor. I need to 307 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: watch him. Everything stops, everything, everything when he's on screen. 308 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is we gotta focus in. He's 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: so captivating and just the sweetest And that was another 310 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: like takeaway from this this group day is that he 311 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of reveals to all the guys he can find 312 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: been in a few earlier in the season that he's 313 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: a widow. And the emotional reaction from these guys Greg 314 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: really really really hit him. Started crying. Um, They're just 315 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: like he's so happy, He's like so positive, and you 316 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: would just never know that this guy was going he 317 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: went through this and I love him. I don't know, 318 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: he's just Oh, he's just the sweetest thing. And yeah, 319 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: do you think here's my question though, so we obviously 320 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: see Wells Franco as the commentators for this date, do 321 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you think Franco just like quarantines for the whole entire season? Like, 322 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: is he on set the whole time? Because this is 323 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: a couple of times we've seen him, not just this season, 324 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: but like he pops up, you know, he does a 325 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: couple host a couple of dates. Do you think he's 326 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: just hanging out? No, it'sn't only been one day this season, 327 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: well sure, but two completely different dates. I just wonder, 328 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if he pops up again this season, we 329 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: gotta get him on the podcast. I gotta ask him 330 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: how much time he spends on set. I mean it 331 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: has to be weeks. Well, it wasn't it last year? 332 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Then he dressed up people. Yeah, so I'm just wanting 333 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: if he comes up again. Yeah, he's on call. Why not? 334 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he shows up. They did great wells and 335 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Franco hilarious. Uh, they do really well together. I'm with 336 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: the ash. I don't have a problem with this date 337 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: as much as I do like just straight out wrestling. Uh. 338 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I would have probably semi enjoyed being a part of 339 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: this date, just from the athletic side of it and 340 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: the competition side. But there's really no good way. The 341 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: worst part of this date is there's just no good 342 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: way to like show your true character. I mean, I 343 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: guess kind of hunter did I guess? I guess that 344 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: was a good Yeah, we saw his true character, but 345 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: it's just hard. You kind of either get lost in 346 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: the mix and it just doesn't feel like the dates 347 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: that we love. I would definitely rather have the Nick 348 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: File like sit down talk than I with this one. 349 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: Same same and even last week's scavenger Hunt or whatever 350 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: that was, I don't understand I mean, I don't understand 351 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Katie's thing with Hunter. I don't get I mean, like 352 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: it seems like he you know, she looked at pictures 353 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: of him with with his kids and she was like, 354 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: oh my god, like there's such a light around you, 355 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: like you look like a whole different person. But like, 356 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't feel any chemistry there for her to give 357 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: him the group date. Rose is interesting. How do you 358 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: how did you deal with group date Roses, because like, 359 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: obviously we know that the same person is not going 360 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: to get it every single week. You know, it's it's 361 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: at all an alternating thing. You know. They were talking 362 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: about how important that group date was and how it 363 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: was like a first impression Rose. I'm like, no, one isn't, guys, 364 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: it's whoever stood out this week, who didn't stand out 365 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: the week before. I'll give you a little secret, okay. Uh, 366 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: how I gave group group date Roses was this, Uh, 367 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: there was obviously an attraction. Um there was like it 368 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: wasn't just hey, I'm gonna give this to this person 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: for no reason, but there was a little strategy to 370 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: it because I wanted One of my biggest fears was 371 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: that everybody would leave at some point because they just 372 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: felt like, oh, this isn't worth it for me anymore. 373 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Like he's not into it, he's gone, So I tried 374 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: to spread him out. Yeah, that's a better way to 375 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: say it. Yes, not Roses. That mean they mean something, 376 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: for sure, I think. But I think it's more like 377 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: you stood out to me today type of rather than 378 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: like a you stand out to me amongst the crowd 379 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: all the time, Rose, I would not look too far. 380 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: If I'm a viewer, I'm not watching this going he 381 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: got the group day Rose. That means he's like top three. 382 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: It's just saying, hey, this week, she knows she wants 383 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about him, so he 384 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: can be around next week. Like there's not a question 385 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: that she wants him here and and so I'm gonna 386 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: give this to him just so like he knows that. 387 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm still into it. Like that that's all I 388 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: see in it. There's not there is not at all 389 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: the first impression Rose type weight to it. And uh, 390 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: but I will say on Caitlyns season, when I got 391 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: a group, they rose and I can't remember how many, God, 392 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: I think maybe two. Uh, it's a good feeling like 393 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: it definitely like energizes you. It gives you a little confidence, 394 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: it validates kind of what you're feeling and thinking. And 395 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: so I think they're impactful. I just don't think they're 396 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: extremely meaningful. Well, actually, I want to hear your thoughts 397 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: because I know you're You and I both are big 398 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: fans of Michael uh and we're both fans of of 399 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Katie and Michael's relationship. Well, Michael's moment with Katie on 400 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: this group date is is something spectacular. I mean, when 401 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: she she's caring for him, but the comment that he 402 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: makes such a smooth line. I don't see him as 403 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: a smooth dude, but such a smooth line like can 404 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: I kiss you? And and she comes back with an 405 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: incredible response, you can kiss me anytime. You give me 406 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: all you want, all you want, you can kiss me 407 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: all you want. I mean, what a moment, What a 408 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: moment for their relationship. It's so cute. Who would have thought. 409 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think at all. The first week. I was like, 410 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: now it's a little nerd, that's why we love him. 411 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: But that was that was a big moment for me. 412 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is definitely up there, like 413 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: he's not I mean I've always known he's top three, 414 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: but like this could be something special, Like she is 415 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: into it, he's getting more study as time goes on, 416 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: to like he's getting hotter. Isn't that weird how that happens? 417 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: We just talked about like first impression roses kind of 418 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: fade or first impressions like kind of disappear, uh for 419 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: whatever reason. But the one that kind of sneaks up 420 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: on you and the first couple of weeks like I 421 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: don't really notice him, and then all of a sudden, 422 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: like or her, and you're like, oh my gosh, like 423 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: they're like they are something. It's kind of Michael story. 424 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: I know. Another thing just to mention about, Well, I 425 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: guess it is a group date. Aaron is so annoying. 426 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: Is he getting there for you? Yes? Every week he's 427 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: like I don't like that guy. Something about that guy. 428 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't like that guy. It's like you have said 429 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: that about five different people and you change it and 430 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: you have a different person you don't like every single week. 431 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: That's all I have to say about that. All right. Um, 432 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: as far as the group date, Oh Greg, we gotta 433 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: talk about Greg. I guess um, Greg's like I'm gonna 434 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: after seeing Michael and like and Michael talking about how 435 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: each moment of your life, like it is so precious 436 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: and you can't waste any time. He's like, Okay, I'm 437 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: really gonna step it up with Katie tonight. I don't 438 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: know that he really steps it up, but she tells 439 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: him that he looks like a little lost puppy dog 440 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: and has like a resting sad face, and Greg just 441 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: says that, you know, he just like he's just so 442 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: crazy about her, um, and he's going to keep waiting 443 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: because she's worth it. Um. And Katie said that one 444 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: of her biggest fears is that Greg would want to leave. 445 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: So I wonder if it's a little foreshadowing because we've 446 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: seen the super tease that somebody leaves. UM. My actual 447 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: gut instinct is that it's Michael, because we see him 448 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: on face time with this kid and he's like the 449 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: kid says the saddest thing, something like sometimes I think 450 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: you don't like want to see me anymore or something 451 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: like that. UM, But I guess I possibly it could 452 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: be Greg also um leaving. I don't know, it's yeah, 453 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: it's somebody big, Like somebody big makes that move. Out 454 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: in it. I think a lot of what we're seeing 455 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: the teases come from that moment where she's like I'm done, 456 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: Like this doesn't feel worth it, this isn't you know? Yeah, 457 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: I get has to come from there. Well, actually before 458 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: we move on here. Uh, there's two people that I'm 459 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: surprised we don't know more. I'm not shocked about one. 460 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: James is one of these people that James exactly the 461 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: guy in the box. I thought we would see more 462 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: of him, but we don't know a lot about him. 463 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: The second one, though, is one that I really thought 464 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: was going to be a standout this season. And I'm 465 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: a little bit sad and that we haven't learned more 466 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: about him. I think we learned some, but it's Courtney 467 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: with a cue. We don't know a lot about Courtney yet, 468 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: and I feel he's gone now exactly. And that's shocking 469 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: because he he, like Week one was I believe, like 470 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Like what happens. He's cool, he's 471 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: got a cool, suave vibe. Um. I do think that 472 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: he got a little bit into the drama. Um. But 473 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: other than that, like, I just think there was like 474 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: a lack of chemistry there and who was the other 475 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: person you said, James James. James's hair is too slicked. Yeah, 476 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: if he had some like if his hair is a 477 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: little less hard, I would think he'd be getting more 478 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: screen time. Yeah, I haven't washed my hair, and I 479 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: don't know over a week at this point. Um, I've 480 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: been on the lake. I want to see James in 481 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: the lake like. I want to see him a week 482 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: without washing his hair, no slick back like hat on, 483 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: and just see see how the vibe changes. Yeah, I agree. 484 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: I think I really like him. I think he's cool. 485 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: I just I think that he looks like a little 486 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: bit too swaved up too too often. I don't know 487 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: if that's Katie style either. She kind of exactly. No, 488 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: she likes a blake. She likes a guy who looks 489 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: like he's like working in the National Park. That's right, 490 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: good for her. Well, hey, we have a second one 491 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: on one, but before we get there, let's take another break. 492 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: We come back or to break down the second one 493 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: on one of this episode. It's something special. We got 494 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: to talk about it, and we're back with almost from 495 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: his podcast. All right, Hey, Ben, do you know what 496 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: really stressed me out about this date? So what I 497 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: always like this moment, what is it? It started when 498 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: it was dark, and that always freaks me out because 499 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: that means they're going to be up to like four 500 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: in the morning. I mean, come on, I mean, how 501 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: many people out there would enjoy dating at starting at 502 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: like what? I mean? How to be probably? I mean this, yeah, 503 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: nine or ten o'clock, like when the sun went down 504 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: it was dark, and knowing that the dates like one 505 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: on ones on the Bachelor, like non Bachelor Paradise, but 506 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor Bachelor I like always last at least 507 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: six hours. So that means, like at nine, you're starting 508 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: something that you know is going to last six hours 509 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and you have to be totally on and your very 510 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: best self, and you like they walked into that dinner portion. 511 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. It must have been two 512 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: I am. I mean just rough, just rough. This is 513 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: why this is a show for young people. Okay, so 514 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: what do you think. Where's Andrew and Katie's chemistry at um? 515 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I think that she really likes I feel like there's 516 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: not a lot of chemistry. I'll say that I think 517 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: she really likes him, but I don't know if there's 518 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: like a magic factor here. I like the date. This 519 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: is a kind of date that you all know that 520 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: I like because you know, there's envelopes that have fun 521 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: little questions, you get a little get to know little 522 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: nuances about the person, and then they like smash the 523 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: hearts and there was like deeper conversation topics. I love 524 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: that stuff because The Bachelor, like we said it is 525 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: a zillion times on this podcast in the past four years. 526 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: But like when you're sitting there and it's like dead silent, 527 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: like you have no background music, no background speaking, it's 528 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: not like a regular date, it can be like really 529 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: hard to just like grab conversation topics and for not 530 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: to seem super and um. So I think that when 531 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: they give them little envelopes like this, it really helps 532 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: ease things. And again we get to know more about 533 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: the contestant and their their chemistry. I just don't I 534 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: just don't know whether like there's like this hotness between 535 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: them that like she had obviously with Blake on that 536 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: one on one. Yeah, but here's the thing that we 537 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: have to bring up. But I like Andrew a lot. Well, 538 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: we like Andrew and he's he's a great like from 539 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: what we watch and tell me he's a great dude. 540 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: And typically this is the week or next week that 541 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: we see the one on one of somebody who goes 542 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: either really far or ends up with her with him 543 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: or her at the end. I mean four and five, Yeah, 544 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: this is the first one on one like that's I mean, 545 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: they usually save kind of the favorite right for that 546 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: like ending storyline where all of a sudden Week four 547 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and five they erupt and kind of finished strong and 548 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: we get really invested in their story. But here's what 549 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: I'll say is, I was thinking this is going to 550 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: happen with Andrew this week, and I didn't feel like 551 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: it erupted. Like I don't feel like there's storyline is 552 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: one that I'm like super involved in. I was expecting 553 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: them more of a chemistry than what I felt I saw. 554 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Does that make sense, Yes, he's the guy heat to 555 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: me in my head, he's the top four guy who 556 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: gets really far because he makes a lot of sense. 557 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: They have a lot of similarities, especially with their parents. 558 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, they both come from like their parents both 559 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: didn't have the happiest of marriages. Andrew talks a lot 560 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: about how his dad wasn't that present and he wants 561 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: to be the exact opposite of that when he's older, 562 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: which I think is you know, every girl loves hearing 563 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: about how the guy projects to be a father one day, 564 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: right and the so yeah, Like I think there's like 565 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in the way of that, in 566 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: their background, in the way that they see their futures. 567 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: I just think that he's like the top four guy 568 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: that like she wants to just love so much, but 569 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: like the passion isn't there as it is with a 570 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: couple others. We'll see, maybe I'm reading too much into it. 571 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Who knows, you might not be. And I mean we 572 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: do see some really good conversations come out of this 573 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: where they aren't afraid to dive deep and they aren't 574 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: afraid to laugh. But they also do start to have 575 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: conversations for the future. Uh you know, Andrew shares about 576 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: his concerns because in the past relationships, somebody said they 577 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: were concerned about having uh A mixed children and Katie, 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: and Katie sits there with that and supports and here's 579 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: and so you do see these conversations happening where they 580 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: are talking about like what does the future look like? 581 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: And you know, where what could we become if this 582 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: was us at the end. And so as much as 583 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: we're not feeling maybe the chemistry, what I am seeing 584 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: is they've had throughout this whole process some of the 585 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: most important conversations. Uh, that can prep him for the future. 586 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: So maybe we shall see, we shall see. There's that 587 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: one clip at the end of the Supertees that they 588 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: used multiple times where she she yells Andrew and then 589 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: she runs into his arms as if he was departing, 590 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: and then she just had to say one last goodbye. Again, 591 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: maybe I'm over analyzing. It's always the most fun of 592 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: this anyways. Shall we speak about the rose ceremony? Yeah, 593 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is the rose ceremony that I 594 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: always say. Week four, week five is when I started 595 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: get invested in the show again. And I'm back now 596 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: because we're starting to get rid of a couple more 597 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: guys that we haven't gotten the note too well, and 598 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: that haven't been a huge part of the storyline. But 599 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: the rose ceremony just did it start with the rose 600 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: being passed out? It started with Katie's entrance into the evening. Yeah, 601 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and she looked awesome, that red dress with like the chains. 602 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: I think all the guys were very into that. I 603 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: think the biggest storyline here was the Hunter pulls Katie 604 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: aside for chat even though he has a rose, which 605 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: we see this all the time. When I was in 606 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: the house, I wasn't sure how I feel about it. 607 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: I still kind of torn about it. I still feel 608 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: like this is the kind of process where you have 609 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: to take advantage of all the time that you can get. 610 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: Do you are you supposed to look out for others? 611 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't really know, um. But then and at the 612 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: same time, while I say that, I do feel like 613 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: those people who have roses going to the rose ceremony 614 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: should at least give like the more time, um and 615 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: the earlier time slots to people who don't who don't 616 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: have one. What do you think I mean? I'm it 617 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me either way. Yeah, me neither. I 618 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: don't have like strong feelings, but like I could see 619 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: both sides. But actually tell me this, listeners, tell me this, 620 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: At what point in any season that you've watched in 621 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: the twenty years that this show has been going that 622 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: when there is the take too much time guy or girl, 623 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: it's ever ended well for them? Like, it's not like 624 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: that is the start of a storyline for Hunter that 625 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: will just continue to get worse, I think the next 626 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: few weeks. And the reason I say that, the reason 627 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I I hint to that, is because I cannot remember 628 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: one man or one woman on this show who has 629 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: been hey, I have a Rose, but I'm going to 630 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: take more time than necessary and it's ended well for 631 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: them long term. It's a good point. That's a really 632 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: good point. Uh Yeah, Like he brings her over to 633 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the telescope and then he also wants to have like 634 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: couch time with her, And even though he's had the 635 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: telescope time and the couch time, he still tells James 636 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: to back away. And I'm like, no, it would have 637 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: been way more attractive if you're like, yeah, dude, you 638 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: go go for it. And does Katie seem that into 639 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: it at this point, She's not that into it. She 640 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: thinks she wanted to talk to James because she even 641 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: said like, I appreciate you trying to come over and 642 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: grab me. Yeah. So at this point, I feel like, 643 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: as a viewer, I'm watching this going hilt and think 644 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: Katie is even if she gave the group date Rose, 645 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: I think she's starting to feel like wait, there's something. Yeah. 646 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: She even said you have a rose, so you should 647 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: feel good. Like, give me a break here. I have 648 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people to meet, and as much as 649 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: I love spending time with you, I also really like 650 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: spending time with the others. So Hunter back off? Yeah yeah, yeah? 651 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: So who gets who gets eliminated in this episode? The 652 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: guys who don't get a rose of this episode is Courtney, Josh, 653 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: and Andrew m So like, I I know who Andrew, 654 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I know who Josh and Andrew m r um, and 655 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: of course I know who Courtney is. But none of 656 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: them really played a huge role. And I think that 657 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: they were the obvious cuts this week. Yeah, and I 658 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: feel like James is definitely a cut next week. I 659 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: have a feeling that Hunter will be a cut next week. Uh, Aaron, 660 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: I think will be gone. Who's Who's Iceman? I say 661 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Iceman because we watched Top Gun this weekend? Um, who's 662 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: the guy who looks like Val Kilmer in the eighties? 663 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: I don't know Brendan, Yeah, Brendan, come on, Ben, please look, 664 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm just sending you this picture of this guy, and 665 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: don't tell me that he doesn't look like he wants 666 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: to beat Tom Cruise in the air. I see it now. Yeah, 667 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: and he's still around somehow. Yeah, that guy's gone to 668 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: there's no way he sticks. I mean, like we haven't 669 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: heard anything from him. Yeah. The sad part is I'm 670 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: invested in this season and I when you said the 671 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: name Brendan, I was like, I don't. I don't know 672 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: who you're talking about. And that's it's not a good sign. 673 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: Not because I'm an expert, but just because you think 674 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: we would know by now. Well, Ashley, before we move 675 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: on to the hot topics of the week, Uh so 676 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: far A to F, how are you grading Katie's performance 677 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: as a bachelorette? I think I give her an A 678 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: What about this season A to F? I feel like 679 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: it's an A A minus. I still am very much 680 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: enjoying it. It's one of the very few It's like, 681 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: I have not looked at my phone. I've not been distracted. 682 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: I've been excited to watch episodes. I like the depth. 683 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: I like all the personalities we're getting to know. And 684 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: we're through hump week now, so now we start going down, 685 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: like into the more like intimate storylines. They're the people 686 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, we have hometowns coming up. We have fantasy 687 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: suits coming up, we have some we have the engagement 688 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: episode coming up. We this is starting to get like 689 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: to the like heart of the season, and I'm pumped 690 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: for it. I'm in I think Katie's in a. I 691 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: think the seasons in a. I've really enjoyed it and uh, 692 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: and it's been good. But like I said, before we 693 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: start talking about hot topics, we do have something really 694 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: important to talk about, and that is a sneak peak 695 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: of the rest of the season that we get after 696 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: this episode. And actually, I know we can over analyze these, 697 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: I know we can look too far into him, but 698 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: this sneak peak gave me a lot of anxiety. It 699 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: makes me feel like things are not going to go 700 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: well or easy from here on out. I know. Wait, 701 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: I'm looking at our notes for the sneak peak, and 702 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that I didn't even pick 703 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: up on. Apparently Blake tells Katie he's not in love 704 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: right now. That's big um. Greg asked if he can leave. 705 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: I guess I misinterpreted that because when Greg said I 706 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: can I leave, I felt like he meant can I 707 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: leave the room or something right now, which would be 708 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: just as weird. If I was like, hey, can I leave, 709 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: like right now? That's something we would so say. That's 710 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: like something you would say to the producer if you're 711 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: like sitting around and you're like having like you know, 712 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: to do like group chat time, you're like, can I 713 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: can I go? Now? Good point. I guess that's true. 714 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: But so that could be taken out of context. Um, 715 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: we do see more Justin that I think, uh, well, 716 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: we've seen thus far, Justin is your favorite with the 717 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: expressions I I think Justin is a highlight of the season. 718 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't say a lot, but my 719 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: own mind does he speak with his face? And then 720 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're skipping over something super important. We 721 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: believe in the sneak peak that we're we We witness 722 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: Katie telling Mike P that the words I love you silly. 723 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: That's so silly. That's not to Mike P. Like, there's 724 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: no way you don't think that's Mike P. No, I 725 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: think that's totally to somebody else. I took it as 726 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Mike P. They make it look like that. I don't know, Ash. 727 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on here. It's gonna 728 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: be a fantastic end of the season, and we're going 729 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: to continue to break down every episode as this season continues. Then, yeah, 730 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: we have to talk about who the last. But she 731 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: said that you're the last person I ever expected to 732 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: show up at my door. Um, who's that? I have 733 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: no clue. I think that's a guy from home. They 734 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: always hint at that, and it never it never ends 735 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: up being anything. Like every season when I was the Bachelor, 736 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: they were hinting that, like some ex boyfriend was going 737 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: to show up, like multiple times, and he kind of 738 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: showed up a little bit, but I never met him. Like, 739 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, what what do you say if somebody 740 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: from your past shows up, You're I mean, I would 741 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: think at that point you you've kind of moved on. Yeah, 742 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't really excite me as much 743 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: as like the people were getting to know. I would 744 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: be shocked if any outsider comes into a season like 745 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: this and makes that big of a disruption. But it 746 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: is gonna be a good into the season, There's no 747 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Hey, let's take a break. We have 748 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: hot topics talk about, and there's a there's a few 749 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: of them here. Uh, we'll back with almost from his 750 00:40:51,960 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: podcast It's Time for Bachelor headlines of this week, A 751 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: lot of them are focused around Katie season and the 752 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: contestants on this season and Katie our Bachelorette. But to 753 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: start out the Bachelorettes, Blake Moyne's reveals what he said 754 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: in his initial d M to Katie Thurston. You guys, 755 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: there are so many F bombs in these quotes that like, 756 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Uh, he goes, she came out of that 757 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: limo on Matt season with that vibrator, and I was like, yeah, 758 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: I like what she's about. But it's not the fact 759 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: that she had an effing vibrator. That's not what I 760 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: was like, Oh yeah, that's my girl. It's the fact 761 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: that she had the balls to have fun with it 762 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: and go with the flow. It was really a simple 763 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: reach out as far as the d M goes. It 764 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: wasn't um, it wasn't like, hey, I'm into you know. 765 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: It was like, I effing love that you did that. 766 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: That was effing awesome. Good for you. And apparently he 767 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: felt very comfortable right away as soon as he showed 768 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: up on the season. And speaking of F bombs, he said, 769 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: seeing what Katie was like in person and knowing that 770 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: we are very similar, I wasn't too nervous to say 771 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: f bombs and be a little raunchy and things like that. Yeah, 772 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: well it's romantic to say the least. Um. Yeah, just 773 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: like I don't know. I didn't like that whole quote series. 774 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: I was just like, you're yeah, yeah, not by romantic. 775 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah there you go. Well, uh, big story this week 776 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation about Bachelor contestants applying for the p 777 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: p P loan, the paycheck Protection program. This was on 778 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: TMZ released I think this article and actually I got 779 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: to miss him. I have very mixed feelings about this. 780 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: Uh well, so just in in all honesty, and I 781 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: was kind of waiting for it to come out. You know, 782 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: I applied for a p p P loan. That's so 783 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: interesting that you're being so honest because our accountant was like, 784 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: do you guys want to do this? Well, you have 785 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: to think and I'm not saying this is where I 786 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: come into this whole conversation with very little judgment because 787 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know any of these Bachelor or Bachelor people's 788 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: financials or what they're doing with their lives. But you've 789 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: got to think I mean for me personally, I have 790 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: three restaurants, all of which opened up within a year 791 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: before the pandemic, and two coffee shops. So one of 792 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: my coffee shops completely shut, like I closed the doors 793 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: on it. A huge loss to me personally into the company. 794 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: We couldn't keep it open, and we you know, eight 795 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: employees of ours no longer had a barista job because 796 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: of this, And so I applied for a p p 797 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: P loan because this we had to like in order 798 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: to keep our other coffee shop open and the restaurants open. 799 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: We had like that's why what they're for. And so 800 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: I think there was a little bit of um. I 801 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: just don't think it was fair to like call everybody 802 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: out and be like, there's no way you should have 803 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: been doing this because you don't make a lot of 804 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: money being the bachelor or bachelor and you make a 805 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: good salary. I'm not saying it's a bad one. But 806 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: then if you do have like restaurants and you're invested 807 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: in the hospitality, and the pandemic hits and everything closes 808 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: for three months and you're trying to keep your employees, 809 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: uh like having a job. You had to apply because 810 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: everything you were like was a financially and like awful 811 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: year for me. Um, Like everything was going like slipping away. 812 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: Every everything I had ever put my money into or 813 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: my time into felt like it was disappearing. And so 814 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: I just I'm cautious to overreact to this story because 815 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: I know my situation. So you apply for when did 816 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: you get on? I did? I did, And I mean 817 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: we went through we went through the steps. I mean, 818 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to do when you show, hey, this 819 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: is what's happening to me this year and we have 820 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: three employees and all of our businesses are closed. Like, 821 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: it didn't it didn't feel I mean it was morally 822 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: it felt like, yeah that you have to do this, 823 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: like you have to get something because I can't imagine 824 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: closing too generous coffee shops in the course of uh 825 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: due this pandemically we had to get help. Yeah, I 826 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: completely I completely agree with your feelings on it. Um. 827 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: We saw that it was Colton, Tassia, Dale, Ari, and Lauren. 828 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: They were the names that like were released last week, 829 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: which I don't know. I just I do feel like 830 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,479 Speaker 1: it's just like kind of weird to like talk about 831 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: people's money decisions. Um, but Colton and Tasha both have 832 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, Tasia was hiring an employee, use the money 833 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: to pay for an employee that was unemployed before her, 834 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: and then Colton has hissistic fibrosis foundation and the funds 835 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: went there. You just gotta be you know, I think 836 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot to this. Now. I don't know everybody. Again, 837 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why everybody decided to do this, but 838 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: the p PP was meant to support and keep small 839 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: businesses specifically alive, and keep employees working and having some 840 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: type of salary during this time. If that's why these 841 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: contestants did it for that reason, then that they followed 842 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, what it was meant to do. Now, if 843 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: they're doing it for personal gains, then that's a different question, 844 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: right in a different conversation. But I just don't know that, 845 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's enough evidence in the story 846 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 1: specifically to really point out why they did what they did. 847 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: I know people are assuming things, and maybe some of 848 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: the assumptions will be right, but I mean I was 849 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of way eating. I was like, you know, what, 850 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: is my name gonna get thrown in here? And then 851 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one more thing that like I'm just 852 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: like kind of sad about and I'm like, I don't 853 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: know what else we could have done, Like, I don't 854 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, yours was all about business, Like 855 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: yours was done in a business name, and you have 856 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: so many employees. Yeah, we are accountant asked if we 857 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: want to do it, Jared and I are like, I 858 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: think we're good right now. But you know, I think 859 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: for each individual circumstance it's different. Good for you, I mean, 860 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: that's uh, you gotta think through those. But that story 861 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: did come out. It spread everywhere, and I know there's 862 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: a lot of like uh and and again some of 863 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: these people might have been doing it for the wrong reasons, 864 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: but um, there we go. Well, Uh, Colton Underwood comes 865 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: out with a nude photo shoot this week, Ashley, what 866 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,479 Speaker 1: was it about and what was going on? Um, it's 867 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: not like I don't know how to just like basically 868 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: like the photo shoot. If you want to know more 869 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: about it, go look at the pictures. They are very 870 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: easily found. You can see him he got he's got 871 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: nothing on and he's got a leather jacket hide in 872 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: his bare crotch and he's showing off his abs. He's 873 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: gotten ear piercing. Um. There's even one where he's like 874 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: taking a drag from a cigar and winking seductively at 875 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: the camera. I smoke a lot of cigars naked. Yeah, 876 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: Well now I feel like you do smoke cigars shirtless 877 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: a lot shirtless. Yeah, but it feels dangerous for other reasons. 878 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: Ashes are just flying everywhere. Um, anyway, you can definitely 879 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: tell that it was like this is like Colton's like 880 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun. Uh, just just like a part 881 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: of coming out, Like I feel sexy and like securing 882 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: my own skin, so I'm gonna let it show. Ah. Well, 883 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: you can go google those pictures if you would like. Well, 884 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for this week. Uh. 885 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: It has been uh a really great season so far. 886 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: We've really enjoyed Break Vince down with all of you. 887 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: So again, we hope you have an incredible, incredible week 888 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: in front of you and enjoy the time. And before 889 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,439 Speaker 1: we go, we just want to give a quick little 890 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 1: shout out to somebody's been on the podcast multiple times. 891 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: John Paul Jones introduces new girlfriend Katie to the scene. 892 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: Congratulations with both of them. Another relationship is forming in 893 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. Well, hey, with that, I've been Ben, I've 894 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: been Ashley. Bye, guys. Followed the Benn and Ashley I 895 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever 896 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.