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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's coming this way.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted. I los nandaz.

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Speaker 1: Plase.

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Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 2: I like about the baron normal. Oh my god, Paul's

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Speaker 2: sheer is on the show. Paul freaking' Sheer And guess what,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty six. Now, Wow, we've made it. I

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Speaker 2: hope everyone's having a wonderful new year. We're starting off

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Speaker 2: that's wrong. And just wait till you see who we

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Speaker 2: got next week. This is going to be the year

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Speaker 2: of ghost it. I just know it. Oh, let me

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Speaker 2: tell you something else. I gave myself a nice Christmas

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Speaker 2: present this year. I got a shipment of Sylvia Brown books.

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Speaker 2: I saw them on eBay. I typed in Sylvia Brown

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Speaker 2: Books on eBay. I was like, you know what what

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Speaker 2: row's like for Christmas this year? And I found a

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Speaker 2: whole a lot of them. I think there's let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 2: eleven to twelve Sylvia Brown books with everything ranging from

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Speaker 2: Adventures of a Psychic Psychic Children the Mystical Life of Jesus,

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Speaker 2: oh so many. You know, I should do some bibliomancy.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what that means? That's when you just

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Speaker 2: sort of like open a book and wherever it lands,

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Speaker 2: that's the message. You have to sort of interpret that message.

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Speaker 2: Let's do some bibliomancy with Sylvia Brown. Okay. This is

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Speaker 2: going to be from her book called Exploring the Levels

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Speaker 2: of Creation, And there's a gorgeous photo of her on

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Speaker 2: she's looking at this photographer going, you know your your

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Speaker 2: sister's missing. Okay, so let's see. Okay, bibliomancy Sylvia, what

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Speaker 2: message would you like us to have for twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: All right, right here it says, I know that communicating

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Speaker 2: we got from Sylvia Brown that you know, it's going

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Speaker 2: having hormonal changes and sometimes we're just gonna cry for

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Speaker 2: no reason. Thank you, Bagda for giving us that message.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to this conversation with Paul shere.

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Speaker 2: This this conversation's got it all, honey. He's just he's

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Speaker 2: such a pro. This guy knows how to talk and

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Speaker 2: it's good stuff every time. So let's go to our

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Speaker 2: conversation now with Paul Sheare and with the show. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, I'm joined by I feel like it's appropriate

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Speaker 2: to say, uh, podcasting, you know.

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Speaker 2: You think about it, it's like that's that's an art

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that this business that we're in,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's always like, wait, did I was I have?

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Speaker 3: Like now that they've added like voice memos on your phone,

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Speaker 1: Like when you gave me a message. Yeah, it really does.

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Speaker 3: It's like all right, So anyway, I'm thinking, like, wow,

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Speaker 2: To hear the voice smells. Brought to you by.

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Speaker 3: My wife, who is the best or I would say

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Speaker 3: easily probably over fifteen years, has never allowed you to

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Speaker 2: I don't need the voicemail and you can see that

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Speaker 3: And it used to irritate me so much. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm remembering right now. The last time I saw you

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Speaker 1: And I had to leave a little bit early from

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Speaker 3: I am not against it at all. As a matter

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Speaker 3: This ghost hunter was saying that if you personally have

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Speaker 3: well this that you personally have a ghost that is

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm a huge Sylvia Brown.

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Speaker 2: Fan and everything she says goes for me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that it kind of like devalues you in

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Speaker 3: it better to be the Baltimore medium, Like move to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: If you live in a city where a medium gets

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Speaker 3: yes about the what did the psychic in Long Island

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have two interesting things and I and we'll

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Speaker 3: So she was doing a reading for a friend of mine,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you are the second person in a row

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Speaker 1: Bought a tickets is Tyler Henry.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I love Tyler Henry.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Henry is interesting and I find Long Island Medium

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Speaker 1: You have to make a show, right are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you inundated that much like I would almost prefer

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Speaker 3: it week after week. But then I met up with Moby,

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Speaker 1: And this is a very rare occasion.

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Speaker 3: Occasionally Moby and I have been in the same space,

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Speaker 3: We have a secret society that we look at each other,

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Speaker 2: Wait is Joe Rogan and this though, no, he's a

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Speaker 3: He is bald, but when you think of a pantheon

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Speaker 1: That is true. That is true, right, that's our memory

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Moby in his episode was a skeptic and

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Speaker 1: It's not a lie.

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Speaker 3: It's like it is, it's there, it's real. And that

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Speaker 3: And he's like, I got nothing, got nothing for you,

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Speaker 2: See. I do a ghost hunting show on YouTube where

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 3: Like I have a theory that before every Olympic event,

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Speaker 3: Because I'm watching people off a diving board, I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: How am I knowing better or worse?

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Speaker 3: Give me let me get in there. Yeah, show me

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Speaker 3: Give me like a fair to you know, an average

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Speaker 1: See what the average is.

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Speaker 2: Fe you are I mean, imagine Patti Lapone and Sylvia Brown. Oh,

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Speaker 1: She should play her and then musical.

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Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea, Like that Sylvia the musical.

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Speaker 1: Way I took you way off, and I apologize for

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's good. This is a good problem to have. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and I'm adding to it and I.

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00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: And that's Sylvia. Sylvia has good improv.

440
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh, she's a great at improv.

441
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: And here's what I will say about Sylvia that I

442
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: love is that she is quick, I mean, which is

443
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: the best part, but also doesn't waiver. Like there's a

444
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: thing where a woman was like my father called from

445
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: an airport. He was in Miami, and you know, and

446
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: he he said he was coming home. But then he

447
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: never came home. And we've we've searched and we can't

448
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: find him, and you know, and where is he And

449
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: he's like, he's alive. He's in Minnesota. And next and

450
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: then and she goes and then like the host like

451
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 3: does that make sense? And the woman goes no, and

452
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: it's like, but yeah, but I think like, and she

453
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: doesn't give that much time to follow up, you know,

454
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: so I feel like.

455
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: She makes choices, strong choices.

456
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: I I sometimes I coach and sometimes referee my kids

457
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: soccer games, and my rule whenever I talk to a

458
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: ref that's coming in like, oh, I'm so nervous, I'm like,

459
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: don't be nervous. Just be quick with your decision and

460
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: that's it and move on, because it's like the minute

461
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: you hesitate, like that was out of bounds or that

462
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: was you made a decision and you go And I

463
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: feel like there it's a good life lesson to be like,

464
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: I made it. I'm not wavering. Let's move forward. Sure,

465
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it's the only way to be,

466
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: but yeah, Tyler Henry And that's but I also feel

467
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: like people want to hear, they want to connect, and

468
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: when you go to the show, obviously it's like you.

469
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to do the hits right.

470
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: You want to like, you know, you want to be

471
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: like hopefully he's somebody is trying to get to me.

472
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: And I watch this, you know, I watched this happen

473
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: where you know he's doing his thing. He's like, I

474
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: see this person. It's a truck driver. It's a this

475
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: you know. People are standing up, so it's almost like

476
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: he's whack a mulling them down like okay, but they're

477
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: like you sit.

478
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: When they're like, oh, I know a truck driver, right.

479
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: And it's.

480
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: And it normally gets down to about three, and that

481
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: is when it gets really specific and goes and for

482
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 3: a while that the two are up there and then

483
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: and then one, and then it gets down to one.

484
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 1: At least that's the way of that. I'm remembering it.

485
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: And there's a moment where there were two and they

486
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: were both kind of fighting. Know it's me, it's me,

487
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: it's me, and and Tyler deb it's actually not you,

488
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: it's that other person. And he was wonderful with the person.

489
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: He's like, I know you're upset. I know, and I'm

490
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: just not it's not it's not for you. It's not

491
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: it's not coming for you.

492
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: See.

493
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: That's what bums me out is that my people never

494
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: want to talk to a psychic. I go to so

495
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: many psychics and I'm like, where's my relatives. They're like

496
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: they said, bye, Well, this is.

497
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: My whole thing is I don't like terrat cards. I

498
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: don't like psychics. I believe in ghosts, I can believe

499
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: in aliens, I can do all this sort of stuff.

500
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 3: But psychics scare me because I I don't want to

501
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: be told something that will get in my head in

502
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: the wrong way, right, yeah, and I and I and

503
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: and not that I'm susceptible, but you know, maybe it's true.

504
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's true, you know.

505
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: I remember like at one point my mom had seen

506
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: a psychic and she came back and she said, oh,

507
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 3: psychic said that.

508
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: You're going to be.

509
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: You're gonna be writing a lot, and you're going to

510
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: be on airplanes a lot. And even that it's vague, right,

511
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm writing, I'm on airplanes, two things that are true. Ish, Well, yeah,

512
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: they both are true there, But I.

513
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Hate it even being funneled into like any kind of bracket.

514
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: I felt like it took away my own free will

515
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: and not and not that because it's like it's in

516
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: my head. Well tell me I was gonna write and

517
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: be on planes. I guess, yeah, you know, and then

518
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: you're fighting. And that's what I think. I have that

519
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 3: issue with making like goal oriented lists for me. I'm

520
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: like my goal oriented lists are less about specific things,

521
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: are more about general things. Okay, I mean that's at

522
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: least I don't know. How do you feel about that?

523
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: Do you want to be told like you're on the

524
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: right path, You're not on the right path.

525
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: I've been to psychics so many times. Yeah, mainly because

526
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: I need something to talk about. I've been doing this

527
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: one for six seven years. I got I gotta talk

528
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: about some Yeah, So I go to these psychics all

529
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 2: the time. And yeah, part of part of what I

530
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: want is like when I have gone before where I'm

531
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: first of all, never gone when I'm in a great

532
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: place of life.

533
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: Right, oh, right, there you go, right, of course you want. Yeah,

534
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: there you're wrestling with something.

535
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: And I'll go to them and I'm just like what

536
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: should I do? Like I've gone a few times where

537
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: I'm like up for a job and I'm and you know,

538
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: those things are so there's there's so many opportunities. I

539
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: don't like to ever be like this is if this

540
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: one doesn't happen, my life's over. Like I definitely don't

541
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: feel that way, but I'm sometimes I'm just like, am

542
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: I getting her or not? Because I got other plans?

543
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: Right, I need to make some choices.

544
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Yeah, I need to I need to

545
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: take this other thing or whatever. So I've got the

546
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: psychics before and they'll just be like, no, you're not

547
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: going to get it or whatever, and then I'm like, okay, great,

548
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna stop stressing about it. However, I went

549
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: to a very famous psychic one time and I did

550
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: that exact same thing, and she said, you're not going

551
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: to get it, and I did, Well.

552
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

553
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: Now, can I going back to your first question about vibes, right,

554
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: and vibes of ghosts or vibes of people, do you

555
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 3: think that on some level? Well, I guess I have

556
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: two questions for you. Number one, do you think that

557
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: everybody that you've gone to has the ability? I think

558
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: everyone does ire with that, yeah, And I guess the

559
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: question is what you're bringing into that meeting. I think

560
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: part of it is about reading people. And I don't

561
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: think that I'm not saying that to undercut that they

562
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: can see something, but it is about like where you're

563
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: carrying yourself, Like if you felt like I am not

564
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: going to get this job, or I don't feel good

565
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: about this, or I'm concerned about this. They're almost reading

566
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: that to be like, you're not going to get it

567
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: because you're almost you're almost shading it.

568
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: In that way. It's like when you carry yourself in

569
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a certain way. That's my thought.

570
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: And so I think that some psychics may be really

571
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: good at reading people. Some psychics may be really good

572
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: at reading the future. Now, my wife went to a

573
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: psychic who like predicted something about my book that came true.

574
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: But again it was it was funneled, it was funneled around.

575
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't asked about it. It came in a different direction.

576
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: See, if a say did that to me.

577
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: You'd be like, stick to the script here, it's about

578
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: me and you.

579
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh I've had that. I've had a problem before where

580
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: a psychic that just want to talk about other stuff

581
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, babe, it's.

582
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: By the menut right yeah yeah yeah no.

583
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: But to me, I think I'm gonna start doing this

584
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: to people. I'm gonna be like I went to a

585
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: psych it she tell me something about you.

586
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: Five bucks, that's what you need you need to I

587
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: need to get it back.

588
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: Pay off.

589
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I paid you a minute that was your you're

590
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: paying for their minute.

591
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: But I want to go way back to answer your

592
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: question about the bachelorette parties. Uh, ghost hunters, which, by

593
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: the way, I should do bachelorette parties. I'm adding that

594
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: to my.

595
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: It would be great.

596
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: And it was so much fun because like, like we

597
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: were trying to be like, what would be a fun

598
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: thing that doesn't make anybody feel bad, like you know,

599
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: it's we just want to like have a nice time.

600
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: And it was fun. It was fun in a weird way.

601
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: It was like a great like. It was a great like. Uh,

602
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: it made the whole weekend a blast. That was a

603
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: weird thing that happened. Yeah, there was also pools and

604
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: we had a great time and good dinners and whatever.

605
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: Now what if you would have conjured up some ghost strippers?

606
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: Well that you know, she really felt the pressure to

607
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: be at the bachelorette party, so she was trying to

608
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: like lean into I am, hey, we're gonna do stripper stuff,

609
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: and we're like, oh no, no, you don't.

610
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: They don't have to wait.

611
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: She won't hire a ghost center to start stripping.

612
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: Well, she was like, I got the whip cream or

613
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: no bits, no bits please? You know, we didn't need

614
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: the bit because she with her son like.

615
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: It was.

616
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: It was all she was in good fun trying to

617
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: do it. But it was like, yeah, now go strippers.

618
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: Well I guess do you believe that like objects like

619
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: this object?

620
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Right?

621
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: This could like could this ant be Anna build? Oh yeah, okay,

622
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: see you think so?

623
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: All right?

624
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: See I So I bumped into Matt Rife and be

625
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: lined to him.

626
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't know it Annabel or he bought? What did

627
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: he buy? You know, he's like her guardian.

628
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Well he bought the house with all the objects in it,

629
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: the you know, the what could go wrong? So again

630
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: be lined right up to him, like this is what

631
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: I will tell you why. It was my introductory question.

632
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: I was like, are you touching that thing? Are you

633
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: like fucking with Annabel? Like I But I didn't say that.

634
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: That wasn't my entry point, but it was like that

635
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: was my thought, like do you respect Annabel enough like

636
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: to have this responsible it's a huge responsibility if if

637
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: Annabel is she's a big star, giant star, and she

638
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: needs a guardian, I mean, she needs a proper guardian.

639
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: And everyone who's been involved with Annabel has reached an

640
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: untimely demise, you know, So these are questions I needed

641
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: to ask, and I will tell you that again. Like

642
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: that person I spoke to you, Moby uh, you see

643
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: it in their eyes he had a respect for Annabel.

644
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's also he's also doing ghost other stuff.

645
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: He's doing a lot of good and that's where I'm like, good, now,

646
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm more on board. You gotta respect for You're not

647
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: You're not opening up that case.

648
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Good all right now?

649
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: But can Annabel do crowd work?

650
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's we'll see. I mean, here's a thing.

651
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: You should come to the show with good things because

652
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: Annabel might come out after you. Now is Annabel like

653
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: trying to.

654
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: She's back backstage being like you butter not right.

655
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: Anyone who like fucks up this set? Is Annabel protecting

656
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: the owner. I would think that potentially don't wrong, don't wrong,

657
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: Matt and or the Wrath.

658
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: That's a scary Annabel.

659
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so do humans have ghosts that stick around

660
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: with them? I think a lot of people say yes there.

661
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: But there is a Sylvia Brown clip where a woman

662
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: is very sincere and she's like, I keep feeling like

663
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: there's like someone inside of me, and she's like going

664
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: on and on about this, hoping that Syvia is gonna

665
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: be like, yes, there's a person in you or whatever,

666
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: and Sovia just goes that doesn't happen to people. She goes,

667
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: you need to go to a specialist.

668
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: You see, Like in a weird way, I think that

669
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: she's right, that's probably the best advice that this person needs,

670
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: maybe therapy.

671
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: What is this ghost story I heard that you have

672
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: from a from childhood?

673
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: So you know, it's always interesting. Did I see a ghost?

674
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 3: Have I had ghostly interactions? And I feel like you

675
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: know very much. You know I'm coming to you. Obviously

676
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: you have a lot of experience in this field. But

677
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: I remember this thing so vividly, so clearly, and has

678
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: a two part to it. When I was a kid,

679
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: I love camping out. I loved like camping out to

680
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: me was like I'm going to sleep in the living room.

681
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to sleep over here, sleeping out wherever it was,

682
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: but primarily in the house. It wasn't like camping outside.

683
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: It was camping out in that I'm going to set

684
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: up a bed over here. And so one night, in

685
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: the many camp outs I did my own house, I

686
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: set up a sleeping bag in the hallway. Now there

687
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: was a hallway that was leading to my room, and

688
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: on the other end of the hallway was my parents' room.

689
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: No one would ever walk through that hallway because you'd

690
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 3: only be going to my room. That would be it.

691
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: And I didn't have any brothers or sisters. I just

692
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: had my mom, my stepdad, and and me.

693
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: That was it.

694
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: That was the house. And I'm out camping out in

695
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: the hallway. And I woke up and I see this

696
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: image that was from my feet above me, and it

697
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: was very very peaceful, just looking down on me. And

698
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: I saw a face.

699
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: It was a woman's face. It was a blue aura.

700
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna save some of this and then and

701
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: white and she was like draped in like a white thing.

702
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: I guess the closest example I could give you to

703
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: what she looked like was like Roman Catholic versions of

704
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: like Mary like that. So like that kind of an image,

705
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: and I just opened my eyes. I didn't freak out.

706
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't afraid. I felt very peaceful, and we just

707
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: sat there or I laid there as she was over me,

708
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: and we just were in that moment. And then I

709
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: like kind of rose to just get up, not again,

710
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: not out of afraid, but I don't even know if

711
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: it was to touch or whatever. It was just to

712
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: kind of like see and then disappeared. And that image,

713
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: that image of that face, that image of has been

714
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: with me. And I guess you can say, oh, well

715
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: sleep or this whatever, that image has been with me

716
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: for a very very long time.

717
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: Now.

718
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about probably twenty five to thirty years later.

719
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 3: I'm on set for what I was shooting NTSFSDSUV, which

720
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: is this adult swim show that I did for a

721
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: couple of years that I created, which had an amazing cast,

722
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: great people. And this grip comes by and the script

723
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: was not always on the show, but sometimes on the.

724
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: Show, and he said to me, He's like, I can

725
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Yeah, He's like, you believe in ghosts?

726
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: And I said I do. Actually, you know, I don't

727
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: have much experience with it, but I do.

728
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: And he goes, did you ever see and he describes

729
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: this image he and I go, oh my god, I've

730
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: never talked about this image. I never said it. It's

731
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: like this woman in blue and with white and described

732
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: this image perfectly me and I go, yeah, what what

733
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: do you mean. It's like, well, she's right here.

734
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, she was on set.

735
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: She was on.

736
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: Set, and I was like, what, He's like, Yeah, I

737
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: just I'm He's like, I I feel like I have

738
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: this mpath thing. I see it what you saw, and yeah,

739
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to tell you that she's here. Now

740
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: that I can only say, No money was exchanged, No

741
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't. This wasn't a part of a larger conversation. Yeah,

742
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: he saw the image that I saw. It blew my mind.

743
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: So is this woman always with you? You think?

744
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: I wonder? I wonder now because I.

745
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Was wondering who that lady is, I thought publish this.

746
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: So that's to me the closest I've come to something.

747
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: And I feel like the version of it from a

748
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: kid was interesting, and I'm sure you could write that

749
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: off in a million different ways. But the kicker of

750
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: it is this almost stranger describing something that I'd never said,

751
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: and like maybe to a handful of people.

752
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: You never said it in your years of podcast, ever,

753
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: I don't talk about it. So do you think that

754
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: that house was haunted or do you think was the

755
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 2: ghost attached to you?

756
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: Well, that's the question that I think I'm trying to

757
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: wrestle with, Like it's not of anyone in my life

758
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: that I can imagine at that point in my life.

759
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: You know, my parents are alive, they're show live now.

760
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: My grandparents were alive.

761
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: Did you ever ask any of them about this? Yeah?

762
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: No, my mom told me a story. And this is interesting.

763
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: We became born again Christians. So then there's a lot

764
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: of like Catholic ghosts in the mix. You know, like

765
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: there were like you know, speaking in tongues like that

766
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: whole idea, like the spirit of the Holy Ghost is

767
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: inside of you and it's kind of come out and

768
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: you're like, well, you know, like like that idea is

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: like you are letting a ghost speak for you, which

770
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: would contradict you know, Sylvia saying that no ghost can

771
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: be inside. But like that, like you're opening yourself to

772
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit.

773
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Now what kind of ghost it is?

774
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: That?

775
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: The same ghost as it? One ghost? I don't know.

776
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: So there were things about that, and then there was

777
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: a lot of stories in church about you know, my

778
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: mom tells the story about being on a couch. Now

779
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: this as I describe it to you. Sometimes I do

780
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: this where I'll start to tell a story from my

781
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: child and I'm like, wait a second, that makes no sense.

782
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: But it's was told to me. My mom was on

783
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: a couch saying on one end, and she believed a

784
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: ghost in the other end. The couch seesawed like it

785
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: would lift it. Now, I don't know what possible world

786
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 3: that could possible.

787
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: She went up or she went up. Well that's a

788
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: heavy ghost.

789
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I was gonna say, is it seems like

790
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: a very corporeal thing. You know, it doesn't even like

791
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: ghosts carry weight. I don't know. And again, if you

792
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: are a ghost out there dealing with weight issues, I

793
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: have no no issues with you at all.

794
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: I saw something only one time in my in my

795
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: few years of ghost huntressing, I saw a coffee pod

796
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: like those like kr rig little things. I saw one

797
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: of those get thrown, And so that makes me like, Okay,

798
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: I guess ghosts can like do things. They can like touch,

799
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: which always makes you think, well, then if they can

800
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: lift a couch with their fat ass, they can sit

801
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: on top of me and squish me. They could pick

802
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: up a knife and chop me up. Okay, Okay, so

803
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: now I'm scared of goes.

804
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Now you've opened up a big world to me, obviously,

805
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: Annabel is gonna I mean Annabelle is a ghost inhabiting

806
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: the body.

807
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: To warn your friend, Matt Rife.

808
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: Didn't say yes, okay, close friends, I'm Matt. I wanted

809
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: to make sure because if this is the power of

810
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Hell incarnate, we gotta make sure it is being handled.

811
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Do you believe in annabel I mean, now that you've

812
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: met him, do I believe in it? Well, you certainly

813
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: believe he believes it, right.

814
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: Yes, What I don't believe in is that family you're

815
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: talking about, the Warren f Yeah. I feel like that

816
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: might be because here's the thing, if you really do

817
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: your research on annabel there's nothing to back up any

818
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: of those stories. The same way with like the conjuring,

819
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: like what went on there, there's no like, as a

820
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: matter of fact, there's proof, definitive proof that all of

821
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: it is made up. Like you know that the woman

822
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: who was the ghost didn't kill herself, that she was

823
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: actually a farm woman who had children was over there.

824
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm missing some of the things. Yeah, exactly.

825
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: So this whole idea of like, oh, who are these

826
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: sorority girls that had this doll? Why didn't they ever come?

827
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: Don't their name?

828
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: We don't have anything.

829
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there is a part of me that and

830
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: this is the world. I think two things can be true.

831
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 3: There can be Charlatan's and there can be people who

832
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: are are out there doing it and having it, and

833
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: then there can be people who are kind of eating

834
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: from both sides, which is like yeah, yeah, like a

835
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: Tyler Henry, like I'm gonna get paid, but I'm also

836
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm also legit, right, Like it's like, you know, it's.

837
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Like, well, I think that was. I think there's a

838
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: lot of people that succumb to the pressure of like,

839
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: oh shit, I have to always deliver, so I'm going

840
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: to Okay, maybe I will make something up a little bit, right,

841
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: But like I think that there it originates with like, oh, okay,

842
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: I was. I was really psychic a lot of the time.

843
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: But I have to like, you know, well do you.

844
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: Have like this is the psychic issues that I deal with,

845
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 3: which is I will have a very vivid dream weeks

846
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: before an event happens.

847
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, and that's something.

848
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: That I have had my entire life and it comes

849
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: true and it comes true and it's but it's not

850
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: like I won the lotto in my dream and I

851
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: won the lotto. It's it's just a person and interact

852
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: in a place. It's very fragmented. It's I guess what

853
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: deja vu is to a certain degree, and that is

854
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: always wild because it feels so real in the dream

855
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 3: that then when it happens in real life, I'm like, wow,

856
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: and I can I can find that connection, Like I

857
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: remember the dream and then I feel that connection. I'm like,

858
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: whoa that Like, like there's moments that gets me.

859
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: I feel like that just means you're on the right path,

860
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: Like you're going where you're supposed to be.

861
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm already taking it in.

862
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: I think it's good. So annabel is an industry planned

863
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: I agree Annabelle, Like, there's this story I'm obsessed with about.

864
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of like something that inspired show Girls, one

865
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: of my favorite movies all the time. One of the

866
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: casinos was like, you know, instead of paying for some

867
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: big celebrity to start on one of our shows, let's

868
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: just like come up with a lady and be like

869
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: this lady she's coming. Everyone like put her on all

870
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: the billboards. Like I think this was in the early nineties.

871
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: I can't think where her name was, but they were like,

872
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, oh, you gotta see her and she's just

873
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 2: like some.

874
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Lady, okay.

875
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: And then so then people started coming to buy tickets,

876
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: and I feel like, could Annibal be like that where

877
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: they're like that, like this raggedy andl uh and you know,

878
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: the more you just start talking about put her in

879
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: a box and then just be like, she trusts me,

880
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: you don't want to mess with her.

881
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's a famous story and I don't

882
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: know how familiar are with this person. But Steven Sagal,

883
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: oh you know right, Steven Sagall was a trainer, like

884
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: a karate instructor to Mike Ovitz, and Mike Ovitz a

885
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: very big Hollywood agent at the time, probably one of

886
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: the biggest, like when you think about like mid eighties,

887
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: he is controlling Hollywood, and there's a lore or a

888
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: legend to it, being like I can make anyone a star.

889
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: I will make my karate teacher a star.

890
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Oh and so he did it as a challenge, as

891
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: a challenge that's fun.

892
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: And you know that's why, like Steven Sagal's like backstory

893
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: is ever evolving, like it was like in the beigin

894
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, yeah, this guy was former CIA, He's

895
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: not you know, he did do this. He didn't, you know,

896
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: It's like, like, like what. The only thing that you

897
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: that he was was he was very good at aketo

898
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: and he trained in Japan. That's the that's the truth.

899
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: And then he moved to La not trying to be

900
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: an actor, just teaching a keto to very wealthy, rich people.

901
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: And there you go.

902
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: I need someone to do this to me.

903
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I got it would be the best thing.

904
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I have to show you. Can I show

905
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: you a haunted doll?

906
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see haunted doll.

907
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: So here's the thing about annabel since she's you know,

908
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: she's like that girl, she's the Taylor Swift. Okay, she's

909
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: the haunted doll. A lot of these girls out there

910
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: trying to be Annabelle. It's just natural and so on. eBay.

911
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: There are thousands of haunted dolls at all times, and

912
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: they come with backstories. They range and I've seen him

913
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: as cheap as ten bucks. I've seen some for tens

914
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: of thousands, who they come with photos, they come with backstories,

915
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: and we feature one every week. It is time for

916
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: the dolls are living, Okay. So I would like for

917
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: you today to meet Gloria and Gloria is going for

918
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: thirty five dollars show us Gloria got it?

919
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Yes, whoa that looks a little bit like my wife.

920
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: She's definitely gorgeous. So who Gloria is? This is actually

921
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: a Linda Evans dolls.

922
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: Dynallasty oh Dynasty.

923
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, so that is who she is and the

924
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: backstory with Gloria. Now you have to keep in mind

925
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: this is the ghost that is now inside of this

926
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: Linda Avanca. The doll is like Chucky possessed. Sure, yes,

927
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: Charles Lee Ray is now inside of.

928
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: Chuck Do well that you were able to get Charleslee Ray.

929
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: My dog's it was Chuckie. I love Chuckie. Tiffany's my hero. Okay,

930
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: So let me read you what it says about Gloria.

931
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: This is Gloria. She is fifty two years old and

932
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: here is her story from me and previous owners. Gloria

933
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: loved Linda Evans. She loved Dynasty and would watch it

934
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: every time it was on. She had this doll of

935
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Crystal Carrington and loved it. Gloria was a good woman.

936
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: She would go to church anytime the doors were open.

937
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: She lived with her husband, Robert, and they were married

938
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: since they were nineteen. They had that kind of relationship

939
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: that everyone envies. One day, her husband wasn't feeling well,

940
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: but Gloria wasn't. Missing church. Robert decided to stay home

941
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: while she went to church alone. While she was gone,

942
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Robert had a massive heart attack and unfortunately passed away.

943
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: When she came home from church, she found him. She

944
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: tried everything she could and got the paramedics there, but

945
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: it was too late. She was heartbroken and she never

946
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: went a whole day without him. After his death, Gloria's

947
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: health started declining. She started missing church and wouldn't leave

948
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: the house. The only thing that would cheer her up

949
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: was watching Dynasty. She ended up passing away due to

950
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: a broken heart. So since I've had this doll, I've

951
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: noticed a lot of activity when I put Dynasty on, Okay,

952
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: I will hear clicks and pops near the TV. And

953
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: I've also felt her touch my shoulder when her show

954
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: was playing. One time I was playing her show and

955
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: I was getting tired, so I turned off the TV.

956
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: I heard this loud bang, like someone hit the TV

957
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: stad So I turned it back on and I let

958
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: it play all night. I do feel a feeling of

959
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: dread sometimes when holding her doll, I feel really depressed

960
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: and it even makes me tear up. Sometimes she is

961
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: a sweet spirit, she's just been hurt. I'll play her

962
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: show once a day just to cheer her up. So

963
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: that's basically it so feels like this feels like a

964
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: marketing thing for Dynastic.

965
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean it feels a little bit like a yeah,

966
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: like look, you know it's your forcing streams. Basically, I

967
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: think I really it's like a peacock.

968
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: I think Glinda Evans is behind this.

969
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Here's my thought.

970
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: It seems like this woman who is so committed to

971
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: her husband really just is now committed to Dynasty. Like

972
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: does not seem like the husband is a factoring of

973
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: Like we're adding to her depression. We're basically keeping her

974
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: in her hoarder's nest. We're just saying, like, just relax,

975
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: watch Dynasty, don't go out, don't go beyond, don't leave that.

976
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Yes, your husband's gone.

977
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I think a ghost is is like

978
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: they're here because they're not dealing with they're shit. Like

979
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: if you go to the light, if you accept that

980
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: you're dad, and like all of that. Usually a ghost

981
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: is stuck on earth because of like trauma that they're

982
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: not dealing with.

983
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: Do you feel like, if you know, if my husband

984
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: dies of a heart attack, my love of my life,

985
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: and I get a chance to go to the light,

986
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to light because that's where my husband would be.

987
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. She was given the option of

988
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: being inside of a Linda Evans dall.

989
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 3: And do you think she took like the easy path?

990
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: I guy, Oh, I'll just do that. That'd be fun.

991
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean, this woman's obsessed with dynasty. She has a

992
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: Linda Evans dall. She's like, what would be better? Heaven

993
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: or being Linda Evans? And I think that's what she's chose.

994
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: But I mean, Linda Evans doll, it's not really yeah, right,

995
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: you got to possess Linda Evans.

996
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: It's only Evans still with us. I don't know, but

997
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: it's knowing. But but I will.

998
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Say that it's the name I haven't heard in a

999
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: long time, and I thought she was a wonderful presence.

1000
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: Linda Evans she is still kicking. She's a retired Norwegian

1001
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: American actress. She's eighty three. Yeah, Linda Evans is behind

1002
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: this whole operation to get more.

1003
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: People to watch the dinostse so we'll say, uh, you know,

1004
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 3: by thirty five dollars a bargain a steal if you will.

1005
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only thirty five bucks.

1006
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like she's a nice spirit. She's a

1007
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: depressed spirit. But you throw in a stack of like

1008
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Dynasty season two, maybe I'm gonna buy that. I mean,

1009
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: you know, now, you know, like give me a give

1010
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: me a little incentive here.

1011
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should include that with I mean they should

1012
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: throw in some blue rays and some yeah, some blu rays. Also,

1013
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: make sure you're keeping an eye on when the Blu

1014
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: ray is coming to the end, right, because if it

1015
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: stops without you putting another one on, well that she

1016
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: will throw your TV.

1017
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean, is this the thing that we have to Now?

1018
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: It seems like she's okay with one a day because.

1019
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: They're weaning her off. I think you kind of have to.

1020
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: But I do feel like at this point if she

1021
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: was watching Dynasty in this prime, she's watched a lot

1022
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: of dynastyes, She's she's.

1023
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: Seen almost every word.

1024
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: But I guess the question is, hmm, I don't know.

1025
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: I am I it's a responsibility. It's like a dog

1026
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: I have to feed I have to feed this.

1027
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, You're not just getting a doll. You have

1028
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: to take care of it.

1029
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: This is the thing I'm not quite understand. Do I

1030
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: want that responsibility? And why would I take that responsibility?

1031
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: Because some people, you know, they get lonely. You've got kids,

1032
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: you've got a wife, you got a career. There's some

1033
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: of these people that are just like.

1034
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: But you want to take it. You want to take

1035
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: a haunted haunted Yeah, yeah, all right.

1036
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: Because you know what if she gets to be too much,

1037
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: throw her back up on eBay? Ask forty do.

1038
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: You imagine what's going on right now? Do you think

1039
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: that in her heart she knows, Like I'm on eBay,

1040
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there.

1041
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: That's what I think about all the time is Yeah,

1042
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: does Gloria, who's in this doll? What would she? How

1043
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: would she feel if she found this posting?

1044
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I like that she's not just throwing Gloria

1045
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: in the trash now, by the way, Oh yeah, no,

1046
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: I'd love to see a toy story five or six

1047
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: where we have a Gloria.

1048
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: Well, this is what toy story is.

1049
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Then everybody is a ghost and toy sters. Yes, okay,

1050
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: I like this.

1051
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: And I think it's the same thing with these dolls

1052
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: because you never really see them walking around the house

1053
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: right video of that. So I I do think that

1054
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, they do that thing. And then

1055
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: when people.

1056
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: Write like this is all right, so not as scary

1057
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: as Annabelle.

1058
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: No, I take Gloria any day. But you know, no

1059
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: one wants to buy tickets to see.

1060
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: Gloria unless you advertise her appropriately beforehand. Yeah, like, now

1061
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: if you start, if.

1062
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: You Matt Rive's not buying Gloria.

1063
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: If you started a subtle thing, Gloria, this is the

1064
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: Dynasty ghost and you start talking about that, then all of

1065
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: a sudden that probably is gonna But there's a shirt

1066
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: that we sold on how did this get made? That

1067
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: never sold? It was a shirt that was like patently vulgar,

1068
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: and I couldn't believe that we made it. And one

1069
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: person once wrote in and said, as a matter of fact,

1070
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: I bought that shirt and was told ticket off on

1071
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: an airplane.

1072
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: Now have you taught her to say? So?

1073
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: It was a movie with Matt Damon called The Great Wall.

1074
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 3: There's something that came up in the show and we're

1075
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: talking about like like a senor Frog's style poster for

1076
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: the Great Wall, but like Senor Frogs, they had like

1077
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: these posters where like the frogs are fucking each other

1078
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: in different positions.

1079
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: So we created a Great.

1080
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: Wallposter which is just aliens fucking each other in different positions,

1081
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: spelling out the Great Wall. So it's just basically aliens

1082
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: and sex positions and and and ever since I talk

1083
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: about it the show saying this is the ship that

1084
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: never sold and people couldn't wear it out sales skyrocket.

1085
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: So I do believe that idea that you you lean

1086
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: into something all of a sudden, Gloria could be the

1087
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: next Annabel. It could be the animal that we want.

1088
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: I know.

1089
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: See, I think that I should like Stephen Sagoles.

1090
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should Stephen Saghall Gloria.

1091
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like how I just called him Stephen Sogol

1092
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: like it's okay, kind of like a seagull but fancy goal. Okay, wait, okay,

1093
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: one last thing. You're so easy to talk to you.

1094
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost time to leave. Can I

1095
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: play you some ghost voices?

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00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: I loved I So I have a ghost voice that

1097
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: I am obsessed with when a ghost tour that I

1098
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: went on what.

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want.

1100
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: I whenever I go to a city and I try

1101
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: to find a ghost tour, and I go on those

1102
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: ghost tours and I and I do have one ghost voice.

1103
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: Where where would you go?

1104
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: This one was in what's the city in the Garden

1105
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: of Good and Evil? That city? That's a Savannah. Yeah, Savannah.

1106
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, I did it.

1107
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's so weird.

1108
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: That's the city. I believe it is haunted.

1109
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: This is This was such an opportunity for me to

1110
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 2: pretend I'm psychic because I was going to say Savannah,

1111
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: like before you even said the city. But yeah, because

1112
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: when I think of haunt, when I think of ghosts

1113
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: cities to go on tours, I think it's Savannah. But

1114
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: there's okay, damn it. I should have done I should

1115
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: have just said it. I love Savannah. Wait, so you

1116
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: were you were there and you heard a ghost?

1117
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the recording of it. Well, because I

1118
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: was on a ghost tour.

1119
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: Where is it?

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00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pull it up.

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00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: I mean I can well, as I listened to yours,

1122
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: I can see if I can find it.

1123
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I can.

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00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: I can because you know, the phones are easier now

1125
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: to to navigate. I know that's a video, okays, Avan,

1126
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: I so see if I can find that.

1127
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, it works. Okay, it's time for EVP or

1128
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: ev pase. So in the business we call those EVPs

1129
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: electronic voice phenomena.

1130
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: I am a big fan. I understand it. I love

1131
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: it a lot of times.

1132
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: It's an ev police. Now I go to YouTube. I

1133
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: find two EVPs that have been posted. I want you

1134
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: to listen, and I want you to tell me what

1135
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: you hear. Okay, and then I'll give you some options

1136
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: abc D, one of them being what the person that

1137
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: posted it believes.

1138
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. I can't wait.

1139
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: This first one is from Chicago Paranormal Investigators and it

1140
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: was recorded at the John Humphrey House in Orland Park, Illinois. Okay,

1141
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: what is this ghost saying?

1142
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: Let me hear one more time? It does sound like

1143
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: somebody on the phone in the other room. If I'm

1144
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: living in an apartment, That's what I'm That's what I'm hearing.

1145
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: It's a.

1146
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: It sounds like something's ordering or talking about ordering some

1147
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: Chinese food.

1148
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: Well, yes, do they.

1149
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: Think it was a Ask me again and I'll tell

1150
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: you now. Oh sassy, do they think it was b

1151
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: angry all the time. C I'm great, How are you?

1152
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Or D?

1153
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: I'd like the Chow Mayne with the Kung pound chicken.

1154
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I would lean towards D. But I think it is

1155
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: a Ask me again, I'll tell you no. That's what

1156
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I heard. Now, when you say it like that, I

1157
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: hear it.

1158
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: Ask me again, tell me, I'll tell you no.

1159
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 2: They think it is angry all the time.

1160
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I hearing I hear, I hear the

1161
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: first one.

1162
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear more words. But it sounds like something

1163
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: good for you.

1164
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say it's EVP Yeah, why not? Why not?

1165
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean I also it could be just a person

1166
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: talking in a nearby I mean again, where is it happening?

1167
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't know at the John Humphrey House. Okay, well, yeah, okay,

1168
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: there it is.

1169
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the next one. This one is from Creatures

1170
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: of the Night paranormal and I'm not really sure the location. Okay,

1171
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: but what is this one saying?

1172
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: That's it? Is it a grass grasshopper? I that is

1173
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: that's hard? That is not that's an evy please all right, wait,

1174
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: it's very faint. Okay, nothing, I'm getting nothing.

1175
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: From this, well, let me give you some options. Sure, please,

1176
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: it puts things in your mind that maybe I don't know.

1177
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I want to please put things in my mind.

1178
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 4: Is it A I'm whispering, B you get back, C

1179
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: you're just mad? Or D what are your brown hounds?

1180
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love it if it's I'm just whispering.

1181
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: Okay, they believe it's C you're just mad, but okay,

1182
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: I can kind of. It's very faint.

1183
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I don't hear it. I don't, I don't.

1184
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not one of the best ones I've

1185
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: ever heard. But good for you, Creatures of the Night paranormal.

1186
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: You keep doing it. I found my Okay, okay, okay,

1187
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: this is this is insane. It is very rare that

1188
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: we have a guest to bring their own.

1189
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: All right.

1190
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: So this clip the I'm about to play you is

1191
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: a clip from a ghost tour that was on in Savannah, Georgia.

1192
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: The ghost tour person he is playing back and filtering recordings.

1193
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so this tour guy he had captured this arrest.

1194
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: He had captured it.

1195
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: We went around and he was recording and trying to

1196
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: get stuff, and then he would go and kind of

1197
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: edit it and try to find a thing that.

1198
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: Was not so that was in the moment, that was

1199
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: in the moment.

1200
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: Because I'm looking that I've actually cut down that clip

1201
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: from a minute thirty to this.

1202
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's great.

1203
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: So that was I mean, you know, I'm not dead.

1204
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm not dead. Okay, I thought it was I had

1205
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: to die.

1206
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh you see, there you go or something. Now.

1207
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the way that he did the

1208
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: VP because he repeated it multiple times, so you start

1209
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: to a cadence rhythm to it. But if I was

1210
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm not dead, I'm not. And I thought, oh, that's interesting.

1211
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: This ghost doesn't know that they're dead.

1212
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: This ghost is a major denial.

1213
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: And like our Linda Carrington ghost may not know that

1214
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: she's dead because maybe she died when her husband died. Mentally,

1215
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: she's atrophine. She may still think she's at home watching Dynasty.

1216
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: She's watching Dynasty. She's like, why is the person turning

1217
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: off my Dynasty? And how come I can't turn it

1218
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: back on?

1219
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?

1220
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: I think that there is definitely a type of ghost

1221
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: that doesn't know that they're dead. But it's like, okay,

1222
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: can't you put the clues together. There's a ghost tour

1223
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: coming to your right.

1224
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: I guess there's people walking by all the time.

1225
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: Don't you wonder why there's ghost tours? And they're not

1226
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: wearing Bruce Wils didn't know, but especially these Savannah ones.

1227
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: It's like, honey, no one's got on a top hat anymore.

1228
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, haven't you seen?

1229
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: But we don't know. We don't know that. It's like

1230
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm not dead because I was. That could have been

1231
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 3: mid nineties.

1232
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: True. Well, this has been fun, what a.

1233
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: Blast, and we we didn't even broach aliens. But if

1234
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: you want, if you want, there's a great new documentary out.

1235
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: I hear about it.

1236
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: Yes, it's really good.

1237
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: It's expensive to buy, it's like twenty five bucks on Amazon,

1238
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: but it's a yes, it's uh. I think it's it's

1239
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: eye opening.

1240
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you watch this and you're like, they're coming.

1241
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1242
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's their coming. There's thoughts, there's

1243
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: definitely thoughts, but again that's a whole other you know,

1244
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to pull us down in the rabbit hole.

1245
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: Maybe we should both watch and and re you know, reassess.

1246
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: I love this. Okay, Well, it's time.

1247
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: All right, we did it.

1248
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: We got to go tell people where they can find.

1249
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: You can find me wherever you get social media or

1250
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: anything like that. I currently have a show with Rob

1251
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: people called The Dark Web Where We Go.

1252
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: Didn't you watch Sylvia Brown clips on.

1253
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: That, Yes, we did as a matter of fact, so

1254
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: you know, and in the lore of our show, we

1255
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: have been trapped in the woods because our studio burnt

1256
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 3: down from a haunted doll.

1257
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: That is true.

1258
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: So Rob was at a was at a like a

1259
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: flea market and he bought this doll and the person said,

1260
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: this doll is haunted. It when you look at it

1261
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: is a haunted doll. I'm just remembering all this right now.

1262
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 3: And so in the lore of the show, which is

1263
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: not real, we uh, we said that the doll had

1264
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: burnt down our studio. We were we were and after Halloween,

1265
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: and so now we've been out in the wilderness literally

1266
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: shooting episodes outdoors and now the story continues.

1267
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where we're at. But the name the haunted.

1268
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: Doll, well, we we call it Baby put my Pants.

1269
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: Uh that's you know, there was a little certificate, but

1270
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: I call it Baby Boo.

1271
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: Does she survive the fire?

1272
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

1273
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the doll has not been with us since

1274
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: the fire so so I don't think so.

1275
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: I think she walked away in slow motion.

1276
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: Like uh like from uh what's that movie? Uh?

1277
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: Not Living out Loud, but uh it's as like fire Starter,

1278
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: whoever Angela Bassett throws the match and the car blows up.

1279
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what's happening there.

1280
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: I love it. Well, you're so cool. Thanks for doing

1281
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 2: the best.

1282
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: You so much.

1283
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm not dead.

1284
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm not dead.

1285
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. To Paul Shecher. Oh we got

1286
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: to have him back. That was so fun. So thank

1287
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: you all so much for listening. I love you all,

1288
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

1289
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: to haunt me, don't haunt me. Hey bye. This has

1290
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal

1291
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and

1292
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted

1293
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: by Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a

1294
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: DM or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted

1295
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and

1296
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on

1297
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer

1298
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Speaker 2: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming

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Speaker 2: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by

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Speaker 2: the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying

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Speaker 2: Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine chilling

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Speaker 2: Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography

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Speaker 2: by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling

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Speaker 2: Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening

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Speaker 2: Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the

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