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Speaker 1: Tour announcement starts now. Hello everyone, it is me Sam

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Speaker 1: and I am going on tour this summer. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my hour of incredible stand up comedy and I would love,

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Speaker 1: love love to see you there. So I will be

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, DC, Boston, Philly, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple more. But if you are in any

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Speaker 1: of those places, please please please get tickets. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you all there. And I'm really really

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Speaker 1: excited because I love touring. Now, so see you there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: ANDREI yet bye. Podcast starts now. Wow. We are once

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Speaker 1: again doing our brand new tradition that is my favorite tradition,

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Speaker 1: which is having maybe the largest meal we could possibly have.

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Speaker 2: Right before we're recording with a guest. We respect. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to be articulate.

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Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable, I'm full, I'm sleepy as heady. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, not to victim blame, but like

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Speaker 2: we got these giant sandwiches. We said we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: one half.

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Speaker 1: You said you're You said you.

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Speaker 2: Were you had one half, and I could see you

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Speaker 2: making the decision. You said I'm going to have both halves.

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Speaker 1: Well here's what's gonna happen. You're gonna take the other

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Speaker 1: half to go and guess where it's gonna go with

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Speaker 1: the trash.

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Speaker 2: Can disagree you are not having after this. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have it after this recording. It's gonna be amazing. And

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Speaker 2: then I'm having a sushi dinner tonight light So then

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Speaker 2: it's going to be warranted that I had three meals.

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Speaker 1: I was really really hungry.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Feeling attacked. Here's the thing. Recording a podcast, as we

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Speaker 1: all know, as one of the hardest jobs someone can have, yes,

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Speaker 1: and no one makes time for meals because if you

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Speaker 1: record before you eat, okay, you're starving, you can't think straight,

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're making connections that aren't there. You listen

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Speaker 1: back two days later and you're saying.

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Speaker 2: What, Yeah, how did I get here?

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Speaker 1: Then you you record after you beat, you're if you're

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Speaker 1: full as holl you're sleepy. This analysis, I'm being attacked

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Speaker 1: for daring to think something through.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The only two people that I figured this out Jesse

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Speaker 2: Aware and Jesse Tayler Ferguson, both of whom have podcasts

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Speaker 2: where they eat while recording. So Jesse Tayler Ferguson, a

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Speaker 2: famously past guest, has a podcast called this One's on

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Speaker 2: Me or something, and he is eating with his guests

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Speaker 2: at restaurants, and then Jesse Ware is having people over

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Speaker 2: and then her and her mom cook and she's sort

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Speaker 2: of like pretending that she's super homey, and you know.

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Speaker 1: So we need to change our It's now gonna be

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Speaker 1: which foods are gay and which foods are strong. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's which the restaurants are gay? Which restaurants.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's gonna kill.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna it's already and ordered to series from HBO.

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Speaker 1: Actually, know a genre has died, what drinking while on

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Speaker 1: the podcast People used to drink alcohol on podcasts and

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Speaker 2: Crazy, Yeah, well I think that's those people now are

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Speaker 2: like fifty seven years old, and so it used to

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Speaker 2: be that. You know, everyone has gotten older. Is something

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Speaker 2: that I keep realizing day in and day out. You know,

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Speaker 2: comedy Bang Bang universe. You're like, amazing, everyone just graduated

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Speaker 2: college or like we have grandkids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, why isn't our generation drinking on the pod.

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Speaker 1: Well you don't know, great, let's do it. Where's the bartender?

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Speaker 1: You know who's drinking on the pod? It?

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Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live. That's the only place that's still

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Speaker 2: doing that. He's getting those women drunk, he's underpaying them,

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Speaker 2: and then he's saying get them.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've never understood about the women on

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Speaker 1: those shows? What so in theory, they're drunk all the time, right,

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Speaker 1: and they look amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jerry, how do you do both? So when you

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Speaker 2: say amazing, I mean snatched. Sure, they don't look puffy

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Speaker 1: They just don't have drunk fits.

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Speaker 2: It can't be like two gay guys talking about, like

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Speaker 2: we women's appearance. You know we're above that.

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Speaker 1: You can if it's praise, you guys just aren't.

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Speaker 2: Would you say that if you saw a woman and

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Speaker 2: then you say, you know you're drunk, but you don't

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Speaker 2: she then say thank you? I'm saying it's amazing how

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Speaker 2: you're constantly drunk. Yeah, but you're it doesn't show. And

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Speaker 2: it's like your famous joke that everyone in La has

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Speaker 1: Yes, because they do it when the sun is still out,

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Speaker 1: that's right, which is crazy, but respect speaking of Los

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Speaker 2: Creators who can weigh in on many and many of

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Speaker 2: the things we have discussed.

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Speaker 3: We did cocaine before they came in, and yet were

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Speaker 2: It's weird. It doesn't affect to people.

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Speaker 1: By a doctor exactly.

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Speaker 2: That is what doctors in Los Angeles do be doing.

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Speaker 2: it's a doctor's path of cocaine.

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Speaker 2: I want to say we are about to bring Asie in,

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Speaker 2: but I just want to say, like, this is kind

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Speaker 2: of a non traditional episode because we between booking her

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Speaker 2: and having her on, we have both listened to approximately

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Speaker 2: six to twelve hours of her new series on Madonna. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: on the podcast bands Playing, which she hosts. He has

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Speaker 2: the most amazing intro I've ever done.

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Speaker 1: It's really good backwards.

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Speaker 2: And I would say we are like going to bed

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Speaker 1: I crave it, like I crave I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm thinking it's Serial season one levels of obsession

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, what about the niche call? You remember that.

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Speaker 1: Barely?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? That was the whole thing in Serial season one,

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Speaker 2: And so I want to do our podcast normally, but

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Speaker 2: I also just want to talk to her about what

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Speaker 2: it was like to create a twelve hour fantasmagoria about

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Speaker 1: And even beyond creating it, I almost want to talk

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Speaker 1: to her as if she is Madonna's spokesperson. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: there's something like I feel like this podcast is so

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Speaker 1: impressive because you're providing so much incredible context that like

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Speaker 2: Like how we haven't introduced you, so you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: Saying nodding silently, but I'm literally like, okay, so you

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Speaker 2: Welcome. Yeah, Si Silk, host of the Ringers bands Plain podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me and for that

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Speaker 3: gorgeous intro. I was really worried you guys didn't understand

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Speaker 3: what I do, and it feels like you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we understand a really small scale

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Speaker 3: Well, just like given I don't want to minimize the

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Speaker 3: like the real like war that you're having with the

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Speaker 3: eating schedule and stuff. Yeah, and I was like, we

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Speaker 3: Like I'm in the trends bad, we have a small break, Okay,

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Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like borderline, like I think I'm getting a uti,

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Speaker 3: but like, let's write it out, you know, because I'm

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Speaker 2: I keep waiting for you to be more. You maintain

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Speaker 2: because they keep waiting for you to kind of crack out.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure or whatever, like just edit it out.

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Speaker 2: I'm because we have had moments where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: First of all, I literally just tried Selsia's for the

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Speaker 3: my first guest, mel Autenberg, a gorgeous man. He has

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Speaker 2: It's shocking to me. And we basically have this exact

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Speaker 2: Loco Celsius sparks right, like, how have we not figured

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Speaker 1: Caffe I think for Loco killed a couple of people

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Speaker 3: That you're like the Ford Pinto. Do you remember that

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Speaker 2: Saying yeah, people are gonna die. Remember that and I

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Speaker 2: I love now when people are like and that's basically

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Speaker 2: the government's policy. Wow, you ate that commentary, Boots commentary, Boots.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, see, yes, I want to actually kind of

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Speaker 2: to be done with this insane, garguan project. How do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it took like, yeah, like two ish months.

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Speaker 3: I feel like brain damage. I feel unwell. But I

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Speaker 3: little Zelda Breath of the Wild. I stared at the

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Speaker 3: wall silently, and now it's time to start researching again.

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Speaker 2: That's the way eyes are, like staring into the distance,

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Speaker 2: like what it.

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Speaker 3: Truly, Like I'm I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's that wholy discourse about how like people are

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Speaker 1: Also, she's so personality.

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Speaker 1: And so I think when her personality is not making sense,

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Speaker 2: it's the one where she does lives to tell on.

437
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Across Yes is okay Confessions, and.

438
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: She's wearing like a riding helmet on the cover of

439
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: the DVD.

440
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: Yes, And on the cross she was wearing a literal

441
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 3: crown of thorns, yes.

442
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, which has diame like Emerald, not Emerald, Emerald's green

443
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: whatever ruby yeah, uh, blood teardrops. Wait, Okay, sorry, I know,

444
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: I know we have to move on for Madonna, but

445
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: I want to say something else, which I think you

446
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: did a really good job of covering, which is Madonna's

447
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: sense of humor, and that like ties into our podcast

448
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: and the things we're interested in as well. I think

449
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: last night my friend was telling me about how she

450
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: was like listening to some old Mariah and she was like,

451
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: it's crazy how Mariah has a true interest in sketch comedy,

452
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: when she does like obsessed or like the video where

453
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: it's her fighting with the brunette version of herself whatever,

454
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: And I think somehow Mariah Maria's sense of humor has

455
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: been recognized. I think Nikki's sense of humour has been recognized.

456
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: With Madonna. People have never gotten when she tries to

457
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: be funny, except when it's literally her with alig like

458
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: she has to like have a reference or awesome powers

459
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: and she has to have a literally direct male reference

460
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: in order people be like, Okay, got it, you have

461
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: a sense of humor. And what you said, which I

462
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: think is true, is like the Sex Book is cheeky

463
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: and campy and meant to be funny.

464
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: It's not like hardcore is the way people remember it.

465
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: It's totally like light and whimsical and like lols. Yeah.

466
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: But that but that, to me, it was like a

467
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: huge It's like, at any point she's being misunderstood on

468
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: multiple levels, but that was a big way she's being

469
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: misunderstood is people think she's always dead serious.

470
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she's kind of always actually like winkingly ironic, yeah,

471
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: which is like what's really cool about her.

472
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: To move on from the Madonna conversation, though before we don't.

473
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: Have to we should, do you guys have a large

474
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: gen z gay male listenership.

475
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: We have I would say, like a healthy, a healthy.

476
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: I just feel like, if you guys are listening, just

477
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: like cue up the music videos, like yes, I think

478
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: your hearts and lends will be captured pretty immediately, and

479
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: then you want to know more.

480
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: What do you think about confessions too, and what has

481
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: come so far? And what do you think about the future.

482
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: I actually was, And I feel bad because I say

483
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: this about almost every late career artist because I deal

484
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: with a lot of like career artist music in my job.

485
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm always like, I think, you know what, I'm glad

486
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: that they did that for themselves or whatever. But this,

487
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: it's pretty good and I like it. I went to

488
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: not to brag, but I went to the for the.

489
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Release.

490
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, a Fellini film. It was one of the

491
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: craziest things I've ever experienced. Bruce Flanche was there. It

492
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: was just so insane. But they played a bunch of

493
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: the songs.

494
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: Oh like unreleased ones, Yeah whoa really good amazing yeah.

495
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: And I know some people who have actually heard the

496
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: entire album and they said it's like and people whose taste.

497
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: I really trust her, like it's genuinely good. I mean, Stuart,

498
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: you have to remember Stuart Price is like my age,

499
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: so Stuart Price is still like definitely in his prime

500
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: of like music creation. They had such a great chemistry,

501
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: there's no reason it wouldn't be good to my you

502
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: know sense. So I can't wait to hear it. The

503
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: rest of it.

504
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: Well, great, I love that.

505
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. Yeah, it's working for me.

506
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: We deserve No, it's.

507
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: Working for me too, to be honest. My only not critique,

508
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: but the red flag for me was the idea of

509
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: it being Confessions too rather than a new thing. Because Madonna,

510
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: for all her self referencing and you know, as you

511
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: say in the podcast, sort of post Ray of Light,

512
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: there's always an element of referencing chrome career. However, that said,

513
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: she's never done like a sequel like that, Like she's

514
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: never fully quote unquote cashed in on the nostalgia factor.

515
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: And the fact that that's how she's deciding to frame

516
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: this new album worried me in the beginning because I

517
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: was like, don't look back. It's a sign of weakness

518
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: to be like, remember that was the last album I

519
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: had that I capture the culture.

520
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: No, you know, I until you get what you're saying.

521
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: But I actually think it's like, first of all, she

522
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: could have referenced classic Madonna, you know, like there's like

523
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: if she really wanted to like go back to the

524
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: greatest hits, like Confessions is probably not where I would start.

525
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 3: It was actually not like crazy commercially successful, really not

526
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: compared to like well a Prayer or like you know, right,

527
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: I think it's again it's because it's not something she's

528
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: ever done. It's kind of not something she's ever I

529
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: don't know, I think it's pretty cool. I mean, I'm

530
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: probably just like full Madonna' stock Holm cuentder now, so

531
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: I'm like whatever you do, queen glasses. But I think

532
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: it's also savvy, Like it's like she's nothing if not

533
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: extremely savvy. And it's like she really tried some insane

534
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: ship with the last couple of albums, which, by the way,

535
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: I kind of stand Madame X and people are like.

536
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: God control amazing, Like.

537
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: You guys, okay, you just don't like it when a

538
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: bitch likes to be experimental. Can do it, you can do.

539
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: But I do think this one is still going to

540
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 3: have a lot of the like elements that are on

541
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: every Madonna. I'm like, can a white girl speak a

542
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: little espanel? You already know that's going to be happening

543
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: here because I think bad Bunny is on it, you know,

544
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: like like she's gonna return always to like the classic

545
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: tenants of Madonna.

546
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just kind of I love that.

547
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: I genuinely and I should know this, but I'm I'm

548
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: willing to bet cold hard cash that there is not

549
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: one Madonna album that where she doesn't speak a little

550
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: bit of Spanish.

551
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean, when you feel that like some some Pedro

552
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 2: is not a play it is.

553
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: But she was.

554
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: She was driving and she was like that sounds cool,

555
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: and I was like, respect to the people of San Pedro, California,

556
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: but that is like kind of a shithole.

557
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: She's literally I've never been to an in my life.

558
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: No, she's just like us for real, Like she's just

559
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: like being like, Okay, I through a record today. I

560
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: guess I'll write she was full.

561
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: I love lamp. Such a millennial friends, but she really was.

562
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: She was I love lamp.

563
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: It was lamping.

564
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay, if you have one more thing, I promise it's last.

565
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Please. I could go all day.

566
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: Charlie's there on Netflix press story.

567
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Are you okay talking more about Manonna?

568
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: That's fine? Are we getting more listeners from my podcast?

569
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: I think no.

570
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's saying that. But I do think

571
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: we're going to get to the straight culture of it all.

572
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: One of my biggest pieces of it all all And

573
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said, we need to actually

574
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: started like shoot me and.

575
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: That's really straight culture. It's really always like a really

576
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: straight thing to say.

577
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: It's also so it's Hollywood.

578
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: It's like you have like a.

579
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: About the marketing of it all. If we loop back

580
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: to social media.

581
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: So when someone has a critique and it's let's say,

582
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: the critique is like, you know, they don't like the

583
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: shoes you're wearing. So about the shoes of it all,

584
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: it's like I didn't know there wasn't at all, Like

585
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: I was just wearing shoes. But in terms of the

586
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: shit culture, I do think there's a potential for you

587
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: again listeners because gay guys need to listen to them.

588
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm in like deep fear of this because I've like

589
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, been you know, welcoming them into the bands

590
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: playing community. I've been seeing you know, they're coming hordes,

591
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and then I'm going to go right

592
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: back to doing like rock music, and they're going to

593
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: be like, oh, call me when you need a janet

594
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: you know which, by the way, you should. Yeah, totally.

595
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: I think now that I know that I can do

596
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: a pop star. I really didn't know that I could

597
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: do that.

598
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: What other like truly pop musicians have you done?

599
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: None?

600
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: None?

601
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: What made you? Well? I guess what made you want

602
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: to do Madonna? For I don't?

603
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: I think because Madonna was like my first favorite artist

604
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: and like I have such a long history with her,

605
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: and also I genuinely kind of don't I consider her

606
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: more than a pop star. I'm such like a stan

607
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm so embarrassing, but I really do, like I think

608
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: she's like kind of transcends just being a pop star.

609
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: And I knew there was like so much to talk

610
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: about that and that I could culturally contextually speak to that.

611
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: I I was like, oh, this will be a good

612
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: one because I I just sometimes I don't know that

613
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: With other things like Karen Gann's God Bless for our

614
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: Friend shout Out, she was like, what do you do?

615
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson and I was like, all of the love

616
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: and light and respect in the world to Kelly Clarkson,

617
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: but I just am not really sure that's the right fit.

618
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: It's like sonic youth Kelly Clarkson.

619
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, ringer bands playing fans to be like tuning it

620
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: to here about how.

621
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Six part Kelly Clarkson series.

622
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Featuring Matt Rogers our friend who's the Biggestkelly Clarkson anyway,

623
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: So the last thing I wanted to say was it

624
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: was like, to be honest, it won't be. The next

625
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: thing I want to say is something that I found

626
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: very insightful that I had never considered is you know,

627
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: we are a huge ray of lights stands as are you,

628
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: but you and all the point that it's interesting that

629
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: that's considered the artistic masterpiece when it is in fact,

630
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote safer than a lot of her other work

631
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: and also less gay and in a literal sense like

632
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: it's like, if you think about the themes motherhood, like

633
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: it isn't She's not cleaning out. And it's also, in

634
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: this weird way could be perceived as conservative because she's

635
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: saying like I'm no longer take my tits out because

636
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm now kind of like doing yoga.

637
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: I realized it's also religious. I mean it's religious, maybe

638
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: not the right word, but like.

639
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: It's like Oprah and talking about how she has finally

640
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: found peace. There's a way I don't think this is

641
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: she meant it, but there's a way to interpret it

642
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: as like, wow, so you have after the sex book

643
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: and after the controversies, you've writed right, you repented, which

644
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I think but again I love. I mean, it is

645
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: still but I don't think that's what it is. Probably

646
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: my favorite Madonna the classic.

647
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Arc of a person where I think we talked about

648
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: on the podcast, but I can't remember that. That's sort

649
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: of like when she like realized the divine feminine, you know,

650
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: which is.

651
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Well, this is my favorite, yes, which I didn't want

652
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: to bring up, but now you're right up.

653
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: You know, I think a lot of you can look

654
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: a lot at a lot of art through that lens,

655
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: like the divine masculine, divine feminine, sort of trying to

656
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 3: marry the two. And you know, when you line up

657
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: with that like Madonna did and Ray of Light, it

658
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: really like it really fucking.

659
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Hits because you say, first she tried tried to be

660
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: a girl, tried to be a boy.

661
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think it was ambition and goal orientation and

662
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: like that sort of thing is masculine, right, that's those

663
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: are like archetypically masculine traits, and like that was sort

664
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: of like the engine of her early career. And then

665
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: you get to like the sex Book, which is also

666
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: like I think in the way maybe she was doing

667
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: it also kind of masculine.

668
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm the exactly I'm doing the gaze of myself.

669
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: And then like it's sort of like built up that

670
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: tension and then went back the other way into like, oh, actually,

671
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: like here's the divine feminine motherhood, you know, literally birthing

672
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: and that.

673
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: Since she's queen and mother and among other senses. Well,

674
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: shall we end Madonna's segment with doing our Madonna's trade shooters? Yes,

675
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: unless you have finally no, no.

676
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: No, I have one million things to say, but of

677
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: course none of them are interesting.

678
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh, he's like, none of them are about you or

679
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: your personality. They're about.

680
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: In your job. It's actually funny that you brought up

681
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: playing Zelda, because I haven't craved. When I played Zelda,

682
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I got so my hands like needed to be holding

683
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: a controller. I need to I feel that way about

684
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: your podcast right now, where I keep being like I

685
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: need it, I need it in my ears.

686
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: It really is. I haven't been this engrossed in like

687
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: an an audio storytelling in a very long time.

688
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Well, and we're making all of our other guests like

689
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: self conscious because literally the person before I was like,

690
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: so the guests we're having on them later is this

691
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: amazing guy.

692
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: We kept talking about you, And then.

693
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Yesterday also we were doing yeah, just just just felt

694
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: that you should know.

695
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeahtion of gay guys and Karen Gans.

696
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: I thought I nailed it out of the park with

697
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: the guest booking.

698
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we keep doing an impression of a gay

699
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: guy talking about Madonna that's like so fat gorge, She's gorge,

700
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: this is the most beautiful she's ever loved, or they're right, no,

701
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: and then it's like the mixtas like, oh my god,

702
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: the brunette, Gorge, the brunette.

703
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: Patrick Samber pointed out that we had said this is

704
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: one of the this is one of my top two

705
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: Madonna songs, like thirty two different times, and he was

706
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: like the math is not no completely, and I was like,

707
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: this is not a real thing. This is just a

708
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: beautiful expression of love. It's not about math.

709
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's always shocking throughout when someone doesn't like a

710
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: song because you're.

711
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Like, well allowed to say that.

712
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know it's sometimes you have to Episode four.

713
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't gotten there. I know that's and I

714
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: were scared. It's like the Crash, except it's not like

715
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: drugs orcohol.

716
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: Just a lot of good stuff in there.

717
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: I think, sure, sure, try to be a man.

718
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

719
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

720
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions,

721
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: basically this thing or this other thing, and you pick one.

722
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: And the only rule is you can't ask any fall

723
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: up questions or we'll scream.

724
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: And they are madonnathed.

725
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: They are Madonna, theed.

726
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Ray of Light or gay is right Light.

727
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: The Immaculate Collection or the collapse of our elections, the

728
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: Immaculate Collection.

729
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm starting the sense of pattern. Live to Tell or

730
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: please don't yell.

731
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Live to Tell Madonna meeting a pivotal gay, or Bono

732
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: singing it's a beautiful day.

733
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: This is tough, one of them. Conflicted Madonna meeting a

734
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: pivotal gay.

735
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Confessions on a dance floor or depression at the Peace Corps.

736
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: That's a tough one, really hard not to deal with.

737
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Can blonde ambition or Brunette's superstition.

738
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: Not to be like self hating, but blonde ambition.

739
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Right, What it feels like for a girl or Jason

740
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: Lee and my name is Earl.

741
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: Fuck, what it feels like for a girl was hard.

742
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: It's challenging.

743
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: CBGB's for a show or aenie meenie minymo.

744
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking I think CBGB is.

745
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: For the show.

746
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, silencing my phone so I can is this?

747
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: Because? Okay? So I had a lot of trepidation about

748
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: coming on here because I was like, you know, scrolling.

749
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I have had not listened to this podcast,

750
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: like me, triply honest. But my friend who is also

751
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: friends with you guys, alerted me that you guys, you

752
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: had shouted me out. So, of course, because I love

753
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: attention and hearing about myself, I went ahead to that episode.

754
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: I scrubbed straight to the it let me hear about myself,

755
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: and then like the next day, you were like, do

756
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: you want to come on here? And I was like, well,

757
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm medically incapable of not doing I can't go on

758
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: a podcast. In fairness, I don't listen to a lot

759
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: of podcasts, but I was like, okay, now I got

760
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: to listen, and then I was like, okay, it's interesting

761
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: seeming every guest on here is a literal, worldwide celebrated

762
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: professional comedian, and okay, I'm gonna so I'm just saying

763
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: I feel like you made those like extra dumb dumb

764
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: easy for me. You were like, okay, we have this

765
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: like not that funny person coming, Let's just make these

766
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: like Crystal Clara's day. What she needs to choose?

767
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: No, no, no.

768
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: Not softballs mine mode. So I do really love my

769
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: name is?

770
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: That was stuff?

771
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really great on that show.

772
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: We do rank our guests on the scale of zero

773
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: to one thousand doves, which is so.

774
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: By the way, are you gaga?

775
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: I really loved the first couple of albums. I haven't

776
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: super kept up, but I do really love her. And

777
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: my mother and I went to see the Monster Ball

778
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: together and I did put cocains in my hair, so.

779
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: That's monster.

780
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: You can love many pop stars, of course, you don't have.

781
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: To choose, and you weren't like when when she was

782
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: coming out, you weren't like she's just doing Madonna.

783
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: No. I mean when I heard Alejandro, I was a

784
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: little bit like, well he's a little bony at home.

785
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

786
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Also, like, sure, go ahead, everybody's doing Madonna. That's not unusual.

787
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: Like every pop star I see in my life is

788
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: doing something that Madonna did before, or or participating in

789
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: something that wouldn't be available to them. Wow, I am

790
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: the world's leading Madonna.

791
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Apologies you are well? Okay? Is there something have we

792
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: talked about? This way?

793
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Zero one?

794
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

795
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: Sorry? Yeah? What's my score?

796
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Well? I I mean I think it was really funny

797
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: that you like kicked the Madonna's picked the Madonna ones,

798
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: but then kept pretending that it was a difficult choice,

799
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: like that was a great that was genius. That was

800
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: like there was one.

801
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: And so you got me really bad.

802
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: What was it?

803
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: It was like gays right to choose or something.

804
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: It was gay is right yeah or gaze right and.

805
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: You nailed it.

806
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: So it's really good.

807
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think nine hundred and twenty eight, Does I agree, Congress?

808
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I was really impressive. Do you think you were saying

809
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: currently pop stars are just doing old pop stars, but

810
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: they took the substance.

811
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: And that like they look better.

812
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: They're all just being like I'm this but now yeah,

813
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: the company is like I'm Dolly Parton, but now yeah, I.

814
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 3: Love you again. Like I'm not a pop girl, probably

815
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: largely because I don't find modern day pop girls that interesting.

816
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: Like I like some of the songs like Madonna was

817
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: up here Burning Crosses and like.

818
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: Janet that things Janet totally.

819
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: It's literally like even Michael, I mean, we can get

820
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: into it, you know, like we don't have male pop

821
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: stars anymore. But that's that's an eroded.

822
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: Oh you're not a Harry styles stand.

823
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: Hey, there's choice of an he exists.

824
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: What if you were a huge.

825
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: They exist?

826
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

827
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: I just every time I want to like I want

828
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: to care, right, I'm like, oh, I'm going to get

829
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: into this, and then I'm just like I like Charlie

830
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: a lot. And I like Charlie for a long time.

831
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: And I interviewed her when she was like nineteen years old,

832
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: and she's like always been so major and smart and

833
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: like ahead of the game, and yes, I'm a but

834
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: like past that, I'm just like, Okay, I.

835
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: Do think Charlie breaks through the noise in this way.

836
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: In a huge way.

837
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: But but isn't. Unfortunately because of the world we live,

838
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: and it's like you can't. She won't reach the levels Madonna.

839
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: It's impossible.

840
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift really is the is the coast in terms

841
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: of cultural dominant culture?

842
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

843
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, not anything else really, I don't think, but I

844
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: mean to a spectacle.

845
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, where is the specs?

846
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: Tora is money? Like yeah, just terms.

847
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: She wears sparkly boots. I know.

848
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: I listened to a couple of upisodes and I was like, oh,

849
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: they're not swifty.

850
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: No, it's we are. We pioneered the We actually have

851
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: gone back on it because now we're like full on haters.

852
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: Pioneered what we're neutral. We pioneered being neutral about tailor shift.

853
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: They will hex you, yes.

854
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Because everyone is either like a swiftye or like a

855
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: huge hater and we're like we're neutral.

856
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

857
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm like even like a little more positive than neutral

858
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: in the sense that like I could care less about

859
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: her personhood, don't care at all. It doesn't exist to me.

860
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: But you have some bangers and I will listen to them.

861
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Of course.

862
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: That's it. I don't care what you don't care what

863
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: you say, certainly don't care what you wear, but like,

864
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: I wish she's got some gems.

865
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: She's got gyms. Yeah, yeah, I wish I.

866
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Don't have to know. There's it's it's so many things

867
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: in our callure. I feel like you are being forced

868
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: to believe it. Just lied to, literally, lied to, waterboarded,

869
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: like the whole like geese clipping thing, like like even

870
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: if it's false, even if it's bullshit on a literal level.

871
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: That is what it feels like to exist in the world,

872
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: like everyone is constantly trying to convince you that everyone

873
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: is talking about tell us.

874
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: About films all the time. I'm like, I'm sorry, did

875
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: I go to a different film than everybody else? But

876
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm just like, okay, y'all could have that.

877
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I guess it's weird. Yeah, you guys, I'm feeling lied

878
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: to and many many the worst person in the world.

879
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: But then he got me with cinemon.

880
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: I love cinnimental value. Shut out, let's get into the

881
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: straight topic.

882
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: I would love that.

883
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: I already forgot it.

884
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: I remember, Okay, so you were telling us BEFO for

885
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: that your street topic is food fighters.

886
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I was. I was saying to you guys

887
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: that I had this was like the hardest thing I've

888
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: ever done, and it's like way harder than.

889
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: With you, Like is the hardest thing I've ever done.

890
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Like I didn't want to come on this podcast but

891
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: before me, Well, that's.

892
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: Not when I said I was scared because I didn't

893
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: think I would rise to the ocado and be good enough.

894
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: I do want to tell you that, like what I

895
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: did with you, which is like cold, DM you, I'm

896
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: not a type of person that does that, Like I'm

897
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: not constantly like making online friends. It's like I was

898
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: genuinely moved to reach out.

899
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I thought you knew each other.

900
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: I can't wait to like really do this to George

901
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: right now, but I feel comfortable. Not apologies to Hannah Einbinder,

902
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: but we've met.

903
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew this. What how could you not

904
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: have met?

905
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Wait?

906
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: Tell me?

907
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: So, I was like holding, no one's ever done this.

908
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: It was like, so briefed five seconds And obviously I'm

909
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: not very memorable unless you love my podcast. It was

910
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: that me Fri his birthday party and the pouring rain

911
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: outside of whatever that venue was this year. Yeah it

912
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: was the Dungeon and went on to talk to it.

913
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: But what bar? What was lord fish bar?

914
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: What is it?

915
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: What is it? I can't remember.

916
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: It's like the ceilings.

917
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: We were in that line. Yeah, oh my god. That

918
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: was humiliating to wait in a line for your own

919
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: friend's birthday party that you were invited to. And then

920
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: the people that I was with ditched me because they

921
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: had an inn.

922
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: I was a PM, so I didn't wait in the

923
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: line because I was like the third person there because

924
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: I like to be on time.

925
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: So wait, So then, in what context did we meet

926
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: outside with Joe Coscarelli?

927
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: It is, yeah, what did you talk about? Talked much?

928
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: But that's crazy.

929
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: I just have a good memory for people.

930
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: No, I remember that moment. I just like you know, with.

931
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: The rain then register sometimes you don't mind it all.

932
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: Just Australia.

933
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: That's someone who praising Taylor Swift.

934
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: They love her a good friend.

935
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: Here.

936
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: My greatest all depinion is like I guess what art

937
00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: is subject?

938
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: It's okay, Wow, you're blowing my mind.

939
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: I know, can you believe it? I've brought such a

940
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 3: revelation here.

941
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: Not only that, but it's like that was recent. I

942
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: probably discovered the podcast a week later, like genuinely, because

943
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: because this all just happened.

944
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: God's plan I'm just like I don't If someone loves

945
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: something great, awesome, I love that for you. And if

946
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 3: I don't like it, that's also fine. Like don't tell

947
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: me your opinion like it's fact it pisses me off. See,

948
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: and that's it, just like leave me alone. It's like

949
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: my whole thing with criticism around. Like critics are just

950
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: people with opinions. They're not these like neutral institutions. They're

951
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: just people who like what they like and don't like

952
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: what they like, and if they end up in places,

953
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 3: it's that's just what happenstal Power. It's like a slur

954
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: to me.

955
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Wait, what did you say when people call me a critic?

956
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: Identify dumb bitch? Ken Burns's genius?

957
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, call Interview mag.

958
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: There's the head right there.

959
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: You know what I read that you once tried stand

960
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: up comedy.

961
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: You did this to me because I said that we've met,

962
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: We're going to get through this whole thing without them

963
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 3: outing my checkered past.

964
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: Every guest George has some piece of dirt on in

965
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: case they come for him. Yeah, so watch it. Yeah, yeah,

966
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: what year and where you're in? Loss?

967
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, it's really funny about this. It was

968
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: like a year and a half and I was thirty

969
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: six years old, which is an insanely old age to

970
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: start at stand up comedy. Did I take a class

971
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: at Flappers University? Yes?

972
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I did.

973
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for asking it. Flappers University alumni.

974
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: They should put me on the wall. Honestly, I did

975
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: have success, it's just not in standup comedy.

976
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Did you meet Jay Leno?

977
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: I didn't meet Jay Leno, but I met many alternative

978
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: comedians of Los Angeles. And also because I was already

979
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: so old and like knew so many people, I was like,

980
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: next thing, I know, I'm like putting out on a

981
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: fundraiser at the Bell House, like with like Julio Torres

982
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: and like all these like major comedians. And I think

983
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: Naomi Wolf did that one too. This was like twenty sixteen.

984
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: And someone dropped away.

985
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: Sorry not Naomi Wolf, Michelle Wolf.

986
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: Sorry Michelle Wall. I was so sorry. Michelle Mason soon, No, Michelle,

987
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. See I'm so oud of that world.

988
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: I can't remember Michelle Wolf. And someone dropped out and

989
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: I had to go on before her. I've never momed

990
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: that hardened.

991
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 2: Because you know, Padma's whole thing is that she wants

992
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: to be a stand up comedian, and she keeps hosting

993
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: shows at the Bell House.

994
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: She exclusively does the Bell House.

995
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, it's like her and she's I don't want

996
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: to be mean. It's so the classic John Hammond third

997
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: I rock thing, being so beautiful. Yeah, obviously no one

998
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: has ever r feedback.

999
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also like, you're not supposed.

1000
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: To be funny, right, You're kind of supposed to be

1001
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: like serious.

1002
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: I was really ugly. I don't want to have this personality.

1003
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to have floated through life having been beautiful

1004
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: and untouched, but I had to survive. But anyways, I

1005
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: was actually kind of good at it, so I just

1006
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I hated going outside at night.

1007
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: I was tired, and I was like, No, being a

1008
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: comedian is literally working a night life, like I'm a

1009
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: mandal of war.

1010
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy every night open mics. Are you kidding?

1011
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: This is not for me.

1012
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: It has to be in the evening. Like, there's no

1013
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: I haven't discussed at all food straight topic obviously self

1014
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: evidently such a straight band.

1015
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: You straight about it?

1016
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if you were to describe what is straight

1017
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: about food fighters? What would you say?

1018
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: It's it's like the aura, the culture, it's the cargo shorts.

1019
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I'm just picturing a stadium full

1020
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: of Food Fighters fans and it feels really straight. It

1021
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: feels dangerous.

1022
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: But I don't think that it's interesting. You say that

1023
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: because it's straight in a dad way. Does it feel dangerous?

1024
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Want to? Wellanous?

1025
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: Actually, they're very I.

1026
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Feel like it's music for people that hate music. Yeah.

1027
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm not a major Food Fighters fan.

1028
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: For the record, getting that.

1029
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 3: They had some mayors, the first album was pretty good. Yeah,

1030
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: but yeah, I think it's you know, the dad that

1031
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: listens to like all songs considered and like goes to

1032
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: like three concerts a year. And it's definitely up on

1033
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: Geese up one. We will be going to the Food

1034
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: Fighters tour every year. David roll Is coming to town.

1035
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Met a gay guy. Oh, congratulations, within the year, within

1036
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: this year, within the last time. Yeah.

1037
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Wow, And they're still making new ones.

1038
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: I met a gay guy and you know we're talking

1039
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: about music. Oh music do you?

1040
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I can't believe, Oh what music do you?

1041
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't really.

1042
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: Listen to much respect to the most psychotic answer to me,

1043
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: I don't really listen to music.

1044
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: What which that's scary. Then we're like, oh, well, what

1045
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: do you have anything you like? He's like, you know,

1046
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: I really love the Food Fighters. And I said, now

1047
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: this I've never seen before. I don't know where to

1048
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: go from here, because it was like, like I've just

1049
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: never imagined this world where I'd be at Julius talking

1050
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: about the food Fighters.

1051
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1052
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: Were you able to keep up your end of the conversation.

1053
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: I was not. I think I failed as a conversation partner.

1054
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: I think I was in shock and awe and you

1055
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: could hear the sort of like bomb going off ringing

1056
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: in my ears.

1057
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: You were like that guy was in Nirvana?

1058
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: Right?

1059
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: Am I getting this right?

1060
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: Am I getting this right? Well? Even like to say

1061
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: to say food Fighters as opposed to say Nirvana. Yeah,

1062
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: this is a type of person I haven't met in

1063
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: a while.

1064
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1065
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: Do you mean this is your version of when someone

1066
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: told me their favorite artist was Jeff Koons.

1067
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh I listened to that, So that was very funny.

1068
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it actually like brings the conversation to a

1069
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: halt because you're like, the building blocks of language have

1070
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: to be built from the groundhog.

1071
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: We have to and the chasm that is now between us.

1072
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't have anything Amy Adams holding the sign that

1073
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: says human and arrival, because you just told me that

1074
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: your favorite band is Food Fighters.

1075
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's even like when someone misremembers your relationship.

1076
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: One time I saw someone and they were like, oh,

1077
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you since like last summer, and you know,

1078
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to agree with them, of course, to be agreeable,

1079
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: but I was like, well, I was at your wedding

1080
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: a few months ago.

1081
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: Were like, George is like, hey, it's so nice to

1082
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: meet you. Would like to come on my podcast? And

1083
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I met you two weeks.

1084
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe that.

1085
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.

1086
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.

1087
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: But there's just there's certain things that bring a conversation to.

1088
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: A halt and I and Food Fighters is one of them,

1089
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 3: and I wanted.

1090
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: To be It just requires more context, I think, because

1091
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it. They're a popular band. I'm

1092
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: sure many people like them.

1093
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: We have bangers.

1094
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: Can you actually can I utilize your brain as the

1095
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: music expert and asked you to give a very cursory,

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00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: just cultural history of the Food Fighters just in a

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00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: few sentences. Let's say someone has just been beamed in

1098
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: from Mars and doesn't know anything about them, like what

1099
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: is their origin story and the evolution of their kind

1100
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: of type of cool?

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00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I like you like make it sure, which is

1102
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: like super not my strong suit, but I.

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00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: Don't mind if you make it. I just want I

1104
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: was trying to have it be less pressure, okay.

1105
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: Dave Grohl came out of actually a really cool hardcore

1106
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: scene in DC. Was like the third drummer of Nirvana,

1107
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: but obviously the most memorable and notable drummer of Nirvana

1108
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: Nirvana obviously and did for reasons that we all know about.

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: And then he started a new band called the Food

1110
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: Fighters with the rhythm section of Sunny Day Real Estate,

1111
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: a fantastic band that you guys should all listen to.

1112
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: Famously actually then fired the drummer and redid all the

1113
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: drum parts himself, and the first Food Fighters album was

1114
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 3: just a much more palatable, poppier rock thing than as

1115
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 3: compared to Nirvana, and was quite popular. And it was

1116
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: perfect timing too, because it was like by the time

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00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: that Food Fires album, I'm sorry I don't remember that

1118
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: it was it self titled.

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00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, and that's late nineties.

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00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, I want to say it's like

1121
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: ninety seven, is that done right? Nty six, ninty seven,

1122
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: It was like right when the fatigue of grunge had

1123
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 3: fully settled in it like by like ninety four, people

1124
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: were like, we want Weezer Blue album, we want like

1125
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: something brighter, we want green Day and so like it

1126
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: really hit, you know, like Gangbusters and has just like

1127
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: over time become like one of those cornerstone like stadium

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00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: rock legacy institution bands like Pearl Dam, Like there's a

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00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: youtwo that are a couple that because they've stayed together

1130
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: for song and continued to make music, they've just that's

1131
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: these are the bands that people are like, I'm going

1132
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: to go to the stadium this summer check out the foods. Yeah,

1133
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 3: was that a good decentse Yes?

1134
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: And I actually think them being just Google image band

1135
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: is a big part of straight element. It's sort of

1136
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: like it's universal enough. Youtwbo is another great example of this,

1137
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: like it's universal enough that like, well, who doesn't like

1138
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: you too?

1139
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 3: If you just a sketch artist to draw four guys, yes,

1140
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: it would be food Fighters.

1141
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in a band, it'll be the Food Fighters.

1142
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: That's interesting. So Joy Division to New Order is to

1143
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: Food Fighters.

1144
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: Joy Division to New Order is Nirvana good, very good.

1145
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

1146
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's very good. So you have something to

1147
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: say back.

1148
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: Now, I should have said that, but it's tough because

1149
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't doesn't listen to other music, so I don't

1150
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: know if he'd know.

1151
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: It would be really crazy to be like, he loves

1152
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 3: Food Fighters, but you're like New Order Joy Division.

1153
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: He's like I would imagine he doesn't know New Order.

1154
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: If if he's a gay guy who only listens to

1155
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Food Fighters.

1156
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: I feel like Order is such a big gay fan base,

1157
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: but they do not that.

1158
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's like the Gay Order.

1159
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: Your guys. His favorite guitar rock based music's oh my god.

1160
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: I mean this mind security with you because you're now

1161
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, you're like, I'm gonna come on this podcast

1162
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: with comedians. My secret is other than like you know,

1163
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: my music is like Fi Apple. It's like that's what

1164
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: I gravitate towards you. But in terms of male rock band, well, okay,

1165
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: then whole.

1166
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I was big at the Pavement, Silver Juice.

1167
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 3: Universe, Yeah, my brother s, j Yeah, I'm trying to think,

1168
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: but do I love generally Sam's a sad man.

1169
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Well, Sam just much more indie rock than I am.

1170
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: He like, actually it comes authentically to him, whereas it

1171
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: used to.

1172
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm now I'm so uh pop star pilled, I like,

1173
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: don't keep up.

1174
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: Like you guys doesn't like Kim Petres.

1175
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: Literally, Wow, that sounded like a slur. I do think it.

1176
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: I do think Sam. I think you genuinely were like

1177
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: indie rock guy and then came out and we're like, okay,

1178
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 2: well the right thing to do now is to switch

1179
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 2: to pop stars.

1180
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: The joke I make is that, like, you know, when

1181
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: I came out, I was sort of like, you know,

1182
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: but this doesn't change my personality, Like it's not still me.

1183
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: And it was like, of course my personality changed. All

1184
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: my interests just flipped and it's like, oh, okay, so

1185
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: I was putting on a little bit of a show.

1186
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: So you don't really have a soft spot anymore for

1187
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: like Pavement, I still I.

1188
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Mean, luckily, it's like when some gay guys are closet

1189
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: long enough that they like football. I do have a

1190
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: real soft spot for Pavement and like that era of

1191
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: pretty right.

1192
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, straight culture.

1193
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: That's pretty straight. Yeah. I went to there like Brooklyn

1194
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Concert three years ago or something it was, and I

1195
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I'm really in straight country.

1196
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: It was crazy, So that's a good I mean there's

1197
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: a lot that aren't food fighters that kind of occupy its.

1198
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned Pearl Jam before. It's like there's a

1199
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 3: lot of real estate in this area that I feel

1200
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: like is sort of straight dominant.

1201
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might change.

1202
00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: I never had like an older male mentor figure to

1203
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: teach me about. I know, I keep saying male, but

1204
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's like that's the the stereotype. Is that right?

1205
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: Because bands are men? But right, So it's like I

1206
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: don't know what you're doing, do you ever?

1207
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: So which man tells you what?

1208
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: Yes, you have like a brother something tell you about this?

1209
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: But my embarrassing what I'm ashamed of is like when

1210
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: I really got into the only time in my life

1211
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: that I've quote unquote been into rock music at all

1212
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: is like the Hayday of like late odds, twenty tens,

1213
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: Pitchfork Music, like literally like Vampire Weekend, Like I wouldn't a.

1214
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: Little Beany's one of my best friends, but it's like.

1215
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: Beach House sure, what what are the other animal collective?

1216
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: Like all like that Grimes, Yes, I love Grimes, but

1217
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like rock. It's like I

1218
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: went to Coachella in like ten, like that was.

1219
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: My which is that's like a really sure which is

1220
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: just such.

1221
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: An inherently embarrassing like that era, the era of like

1222
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: the indie hipster is so deeply embarrassing to have that

1223
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: be your youth.

1224
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because you were you were

1225
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: like eighteen, right.

1226
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1227
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: You talked before we were recording about how sort of

1228
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: the gendered element of hosting a music podcast.

1229
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Well I didn't say those words. I really wish you

1230
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't that.

1231
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: You were talking earlier about how women can do it

1232
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: all you said you said.

1233
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: You came in here wearing a pink because you had

1234
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: and we were like, please remember that, I'm with her.

1235
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm still with her.

1236
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: We want to talk to you about being a woman.

1237
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: What's it like to be but literally, like think of

1238
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: all the male dominant fields podcasting, Ringer Network, Indie Rock, True.

1239
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, are you okay? What is there a gun

1240
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: to your head? Have you been abduct due?

1241
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: You feel like the archetype of cool rock girl dream

1242
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: like like literally Juliette Lewis you know what I mean?

1243
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Like like like.

1244
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: Like who's Who's an example?

1245
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: I think both of these are.

1246
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: Correct, like cool Kennedy from MTV who turned out my writing.

1247
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: Actually in the end they always do My Dallas she

1248
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: was Latina. I'm not really thinking of one. She was

1249
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: sort of in the gen X music.

1250
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally girl who can hang in music?

1251
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Right?

1252
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: Do you think of that archetype? And how do you

1253
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: engage with it on a databasis?

1254
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Go? Let us ask a question and then we'll move on.

1255
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: You know, Look, I love my job. I'm you actually

1256
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: deeply very interested when I do. It is really funny

1257
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: because it's an extremely male dominated space. I like to

1258
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: think I will bring a little panashion color to it

1259
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: as well as a great deal of vocal for I whish.

1260
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm reminded of almost every day by men who I

1261
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: suppose the government has come to their home with it

1262
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: with a gun to their heads and said, if you

1263
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: don't listen to bands playing, we will tax you double.

1264
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: And then they're like, well, I had to listen to

1265
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: your podcast, and I hate how you talk. I'm like, well,

1266
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: you simply could not listen to my podcast so angry

1267
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: that it's like they're in a hostage situation where like

1268
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: they they're like, yeah, but you're talking about the national

1269
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: I must listen to this, But why do you have

1270
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: to talk that way? Like we'll get comments that are like,

1271
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: I know, don't read the comments. They'll be like I

1272
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 3: love this podcast, I just wish I had a different host. Yeah,

1273
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you think this podcast is?

1274
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: Aside from the host not to be like what is it?

1275
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: What is the mechanism of this podcast? What's going on here?

1276
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Besides me?

1277
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: That person is saying I like music, right, you were

1278
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: saying it would be cool if there was a podcast

1279
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: about music.

1280
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: That person's literally going to take your podcast send it

1281
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: to AI, say send this back to me in voice

1282
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: of man, voice of Dave girl.

1283
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: I hope they do that. That would be great for them.

1284
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: I just and then I'm also like, why did I

1285
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: choose this? It's really hard. I don't get any free stuff.

1286
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean I do, but it's like do you get

1287
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: free concert tickets?

1288
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? And like vinyl, but like skincare, I want clothes.

1289
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm a girl. Like, no one's sending me to like

1290
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: an activation around like, okay, elephant or whatever about Kim Pets.

1291
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. First of all, yeah, I literally do anpisode

1292
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: about Kimpetra's and then she will absolutely invite you to

1293
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: a billion activations.

1294
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know thinking about it.

1295
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: But I also Sam has worked with Kimpetras, so so

1296
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: watch it.

1297
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shared the screen together.

1298
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: They were they were colleagues together in a production where

1299
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: Sam later got COVID.

1300
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: That's not true. I shut down the chute because you

1301
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: brought there.

1302
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 3: Okay, you were the patients here.

1303
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: I was patient, Like for in.

1304
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: Chile, you know what funny is what you're describing as

1305
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: the opposite of my experience. For like, the free things

1306
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: I get are so.

1307
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: Like exactly coded to your no.

1308
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: No, I wish they were coded to me, but it's

1309
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Speaker 2: like whatever. I don't want to call out a speci,

1310
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: but it's like I recently did get a package of

1311
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: skincare stuff from a brand I don't know or care about,

1312
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: so now I suddenly.

1313
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Speaker 3: Have to Yeah, I have to deal with that.

1314
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: Whereas if someone gave me free concert tickets to see

1315
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 2: you know, Madonna or frankly even food fighters, I would

1316
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: be like amazing, like an experience.

1317
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: Please don't take away the free concerts. Will love them.

1318
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: And honestly I love the vinyl too. Do I have

1319
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: a record player? Of the answer is no. But I's

1320
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: shocking to me that you don't have a record players.

1321
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: This is my greatest old theory. Actually, record players come

1322
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: with boyfriends and they leave with boyfriends, and that's none

1323
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: of my business. And the next time we'll be when

1324
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: a boyfriend comes again, they will bring theirs. I don't

1325
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: know about audio systems. I don't know chord progressions, I

1326
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: don't know what arpeggio is, and I'm certainly not an

1327
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: audio file.

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: I what I do the speakers that I currently I

1329
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: do have a record player, but the speakers are now

1330
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: husband and boyfriends. Yeah, but it was like, I like,

1331
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: just this year, I was like I could buy my

1332
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: own speakers. I don't have to have these.

1333
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: I just can't know. I'm a girl. I can't be

1334
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 3: knowing about that. I don't know how to get into that.

1335
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: You already overstepped your.

1336
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: Gender exactly enough. I can't go even further and know

1337
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: about audio aques.

1338
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: I will have to take you out if you learn

1339
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: about the audio.

1340
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: I think she is next thing. You know, she's running

1341
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: for president.

1342
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, hey.

1343
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm with her.

1344
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: But you know what the weirdest part is. The weirdest

1345
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: part is probably and I don't want to typecast what

1346
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: your audience is totally who your audience is, but most

1347
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: podcasters their audience mirrors them pretty one.

1348
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 2: To one, right, and yours doesn't, is what you're saying.

1349
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: Audience is eighty percent middle aged, straight guys, which is

1350
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 3: check out. That's my bread and butter, babe. I'm happy

1351
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 3: you're welcome. I love you, never leave. I love my job,

1352
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: I love the checks. But like it's so strange. I'm

1353
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: like this and then every time, Like, I have three

1354
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: favorite fan bases that are smaller. One is young girls,

1355
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: like eighteen to twenty two year old girls, and they'll

1356
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: be like, I love Pavement now because of you, and

1357
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, cool, fucking did it? I did it. One

1358
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: is clergyman. What actually, maybe it's only two. Yeah. I

1359
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: have like a very small but devoted fan base of

1360
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: different denominations of clergy people. It's men, it's not people,

1361
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: it's meant.

1362
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: What does clergyman mean? Oh?

1363
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: Man of the faith like I have, there's priests there's

1364
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: a reverence. My favorite and I don't want to say favorites,

1365
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: but my favorite is a literal Catholic monk who lives

1366
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: in a monastery in Kansas, writes me emails. He whar's

1367
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: the rope?

1368
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, do you think it's just like a lot of

1369
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: solitary time, you know, you listen to music, you like,

1370
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: get into music. It's like one of the things that

1371
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: I can imagine.

1372
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: I think clergy are people too, and they like you

1373
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: know gen x clergymen also love guitar rock music and

1374
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: they're happy to hear this.

1375
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: Dumb I gotta say. My father in law is pre

1376
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: sure he's a he's a man in charge of the

1377
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: church called pastor.

1378
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: I think it kind of depends what church it is,

1379
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: but yeah, let's say pastor.

1380
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: Okay, could be.

1381
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: A priest and to be a reverend. That's the oa

1382
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: they're not married.

1383
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: I forget which one would be really awkward if he was, but.

1384
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: He would absolutely gag for your podcast.

1385
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: He is.

1386
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm still gathering obsessed with cool chicks talking about rock.

1387
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: It also might be because I do often say things

1388
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: like I think all music comes from God, so they

1389
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: feel they feel safe.

1390
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: You spiritual element and you're into like astrology, not to

1391
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: that was a mental.

1392
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: People are actually the Catholic monks sent me this. I

1393
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: don't even know what the saint is. I think it's

1394
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: like Benedictine because he was like, I heard you talking

1395
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: about Taro, and I feel worried that you're summoning the

1396
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: dark forces and you need protection. To me, I don't

1397
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: feel the dark forces have been summoned. I mean sometimes

1398
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: in like the comments section, but like where none of

1399
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: us are saying from that, you know, wow?

1400
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Wow?

1401
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: Do you guys read the comments?

1402
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: Yes, every single one. I read every single comment. George,

1403
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: you don't get the Spotify ones, but I do read them.

1404
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't read them.

1405
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: You can just go on.

1406
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: What do you mean, I don't get them.

1407
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Like they come to me in an email. No, because

1408
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: on the show.

1409
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, but usually those are positive. I mean,

1410
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I definitely don't read Spotify comments.

1411
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: They're ninety nine percent positive, right, but as the one percent.

1412
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: Remember what happens. I would say, once every few months

1413
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: I check in on Apple podcast reviews. Yeah, and those

1414
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: are again ninety percent positive. But the negative ones are

1415
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: so crushing because what it is. Ultimately, what it is

1416
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: is people that have like stuck with you for five

1417
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: years and then you said one thing that made them

1418
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 2: turn against you. And it's basically like a teenager yelling

1419
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: at their mom. It's someone being like I could deal

1420
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: with this, I could deal with this. I could deal

1421
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: with this, but I can't believe what you said about

1422
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, pajama sets being straight.

1423
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got one. This one's reasonable. We just got

1424
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: I checked it today. We got it in the Spotify comment.

1425
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: It's just that that someone said as an l A Native,

1426
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: you guys are starting to make me sick. Wow. I

1427
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: mean we were negative about yeah, and we have to

1428
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: start LA culture.

1429
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: But people are people are mad. I need to stop

1430
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: being like. You guys deserve Spencer prod.

1431
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: It's it's how it works because every other city is garbage.

1432
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 3: So like if they didn't hate l A, Yeah, like

1433
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: that's that's the trade.

1434
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do hate Bloomington?

1435
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 3: We go to do hate in New York sucks, But

1436
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: like everyone there has a living under the delusion that

1437
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: it's awesome and fun.

1438
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: In order to this this this time, we've had a

1439
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: few Los Angeles natives yourself included. Yeah, so now they can't.

1440
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: Say that you're from Torrance's famously, which is La no.

1441
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: My one of my longest term from Palace nearby, nearby

1442
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: to the South Bay crazy crazy time, sort of a

1443
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: like a Orange County Conservative blsburd is not Torrance, more

1444
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: like a beach town.

1445
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 3: Torrance is like a no man's. I don't know how

1446
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 3: to describe it.

1447
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: It's like I've been there. That's the first place I

1448
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: ever went to. Lemonade is Torrance in the All fours?

1449
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

1450
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: Does she go there?

1451
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: I think that sounds familiar.

1452
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: I think she might go there. That's why I've heard that.

1453
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: I thought she went east rather east where when she

1454
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: went to like the motile to Reduction.

1455
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: But I don't, I don't freaking know.

1456
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel like your listeners have read all fours?

1457
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: No, our listeners are people who have read all My

1458
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: listeners have read all that's the difference.

1459
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: I think maybe two of my listeners have all fours

1460
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: and the rest of them are like the only.

1461
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Exit interviewer for podcast, Like, if you want to know

1462
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: your audience, it's like, have you or have you not?

1463
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: Read All fours? Because it sort of says what we need.

1464
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: I definitely talk about perimenopause more than any of these

1465
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 3: men have ever heard that word in their life.

1466
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that word is trending years ago.

1467
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: Literally it was crazy.

1468
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that that was never a thing, never

1469
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 3: until I had it, And then I was like, why

1470
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: is it everywhere? And I have to take a supplement

1471
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: for like yourself.

1472
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: It explains any health issue you might be had. My

1473
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 2: friend was just talking about this because she is a

1474
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: writer and she's contemplating writing about the perimenopause like discourse,

1475
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: which I think is like an overdue article idea. It's like,

1476
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: so where did this come from?

1477
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 3: The thing in some sort of bananas And then it's like.

1478
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: A photo shoot that's like a tampon, that's like screaming

1479
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: a polaroid?

1480
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: Yes, what was I saying? Oh yeah?

1481
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: And she was like the way perimenopause is sold is

1482
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: anything can be caused. Like it's like if you're having

1483
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: better sex than ever or worse sex than ever, both

1484
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: can be ye menopause thoughts, Well, that.

1485
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: Doesn't apply to me. None of that applies to me.

1486
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 3: I do think like no pink pussy hat, right, I

1487
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: do think it's like actually psychotic that like no one's

1488
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: talked about it until now because it is so insanely debilitating,

1489
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 3: and then you kind of completely understand the patriarchy. You're like,

1490
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: oh yeah, because an entire gender is like kneecapped at

1491
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: the exact age where men are like, I almost see

1492
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: you now and they're like, I haven't slept in four

1493
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: weeks because I have hot flashes, and you're like and

1494
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 3: also everyone was like, like I think about my mom,

1495
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: and it's like they just were like, yeah, you just

1496
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: deal with it, like there was no intern like we

1497
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: can't help you. And now it's like I don't care

1498
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: if it's because they want to make money out of it,

1499
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: help us the brain fog. I was like, oh my god,

1500
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: my job is to talk and say sentences that more

1501
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 3: or less makes sense, and if I can't do that,

1502
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to be out of a job. So can

1503
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 3: you give me one of those hormone patches or whatever,

1504
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 3: and I'll slap that shit right on my ass, babe

1505
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: and call it a day like that, that's hot, that's sexy.

1506
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: That's not really our audience, because be so rock hard

1507
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: from hearing that.

1508
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: My therapus told me recently, she was like have you

1509
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: ever talked about being single on your podcast? And I

1510
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: was like, what do you mean? She was like, We're

1511
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: just gone on there and be like, I'm single.

1512
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: Reorganize your male listenership is to be like do any

1513
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: of you want to know?

1514
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be the first one?

1515
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1516
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: Was that true?

1517
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 2: As in like people dating their listeners.

1518
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: People weaponizing their audience to get dates.

1519
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: That's true.

1520
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: I think that's a little weird, but I mean I

1521
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: haven't that's my therapist a little.

1522
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: She was like, I think you can sprinkle it in.

1523
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 2: Just be like the other day when I was being

1524
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: super single being single.

1525
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: The other day when I was petting my cat and

1526
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: content and had no one to go with because I'm

1527
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: really single. But instead I came and talked about it

1528
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: here where I'm for the audience will be beating down

1529
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 3: my door to go.

1530
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: On a date.

1531
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, no, they're actually going to be beating down your

1532
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: door to like stand you, which is like a sort

1533
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: of like the other side of the coin, like there's

1534
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: not enough straight men to be like being down your

1535
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: door to going literally like can we kind of lift

1536
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: you up parade style and like like sort of like

1537
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: carry you across the town Square and be.

1538
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: Like yah see, yah see, that's so much better than yeah.

1539
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: And then it's like they're they're wearing T shirts that's

1540
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: like paramount apozzle as but it's like the twenty two

1541
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: year old GI guy.

1542
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: Is so dark.

1543
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: Write that down, March. None of your listeners want.

1544
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 3: It except for the clergy huge.

1545
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: Well, okay, first of all, do you have any final

1546
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on food fighters as a straight topic.

1547
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 4: Which always sorry, it doesn't always happen, just in particular,

1548
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: just like scroll as if figure is also some well

1549
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 4: because he's so wholesome and he has like the good

1550
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 4: reputation that's been sullied by his big affair.

1551
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I actually do quite like.

1552
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: But I am sort of like, wait, which part do

1553
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: you like the fact that in invatation was sullied by

1554
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: the affair?

1555
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

1556
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, I find him to be you know what,

1557
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: no one's going to hear this that in that world. No,

1558
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: But just like in that world, I find him to

1559
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: be the second most annoying man in rock music. Who's

1560
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: the first Tom Marello? It was like constantly bringing his

1561
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 3: like elderly ninety five year old mother onto his pockets.

1562
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: Elder abuse like, leave your.

1563
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: Mom out all there's a lot of elder abuse.

1564
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: She worked in the music industry runs on elder abuse.

1565
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 3: I say it all the time. I'm like, oh, we're

1566
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: parading Tony Bennette out again.

1567
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: Mitchell dragged onto a stage.

1568
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: They haven't. Yeah, you've had a catheter in this bitch

1569
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: and fucking shove them on stage to make a few bucks.

1570
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 3: Leave Bob Dylan alone.

1571
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, he's doing it all on his own. He is

1572
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: obsessed the amount of.

1573
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's like I'm taking my shirt off whether you

1574
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: like it or not.

1575
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Bumble at least also abuses his audience. Yeah,

1576
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: that's I like that.

1577
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: He's like just fucking me and them.

1578
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like plays something that no one wants

1579
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: to hear.

1580
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: You know who has never looked younger? Paul McCartney, What

1581
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: is he on? Not five years old? I'm sorry, but

1582
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: the Beatles are like my grandparents generation, Like, what is happening?

1583
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: How is he so nimble and articulate?

1584
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about Paul McCartney, johnlan In binary?

1585
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: The what now? Pau McCartney, John Lenan binary.

1586
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you the Beatles is the thing

1587
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 3: I just don't think about that really, no shade whatever.

1588
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 3: You guys like the Beatles as much as a normal person,

1589
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: but like it's not just that it's been a deep

1590
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: amount of time thinking about them.

1591
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: Do you guys are no, we were just talking about that.

1592
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: It's crazy so I guess you're only thirty three.

1593
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's crazy that we're not pid aren't they?

1594
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: Can they kill in l A?

1595
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1596
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: Should I be on pet could kill you? Yeah?

1597
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1598
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a I'm a big peptide proponent.

1599
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: So where do you put it?

1600
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: Is not medically advice, I'm not a doctor.

1601
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: Where are you doing that? Carries?

1602
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 3: And really, well it's a it's a shot shot.

1603
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, does it hurt? No?

1604
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're starting.

1605
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: Then we're going to go ahead and do peptides after this.

1606
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: It really is in New York versus a thing.

1607
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 3: Not to yeah once again New York too, but I

1608
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: think they have to get it shipped. And it's like

1609
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 3: it's the continuation of that thing where it's like you're

1610
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 3: not ugly or just poor, you know, like you're not

1611
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: like older, Like it's just that again with a new

1612
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: batch of things.

1613
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in New York those things are frown No, no,

1614
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: it's not that, Oh my god, you're attacking.

1615
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: We need this, we need this.

1616
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 2: I think in New York what happens is like skincare,

1617
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: wellness health stuff is very like immediately coded as luxury,

1618
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: Whereas in LA, it's almost like people rush to democratize that.

1619
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: They're like, everyone needs to have access to peptides in LA,

1620
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: whereas in New York, I think there's everything in New

1621
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: York is all about like exclusivity and lines. Right, So

1622
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: it's like you have to first go through the phase

1623
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 2: of peptides being something that only the facialists to the

1624
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: stars can give you, and then generation to It's like

1625
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 2: how in LA, you know anything goop coded first is

1626
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: everywhere in LA. And then suddenly.

1627
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: You know, wait, do you guys want to hear my

1628
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: first peptide experience because it's actually an insane story. Okay, okay,

1629
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say I was mentally healthy got

1630
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: this time. I definitely found myself through a referral in

1631
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: a man's apartment and what's hollywood? Okay man in my

1632
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 3: mind at the time, it turns out actually it was straight.

1633
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 3: But just so you can get into your space in

1634
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: my Yeah, and again I'm in an apartment. This is

1635
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: not a medical professional. He doesn't a medical training that

1636
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: I couldn't speak of. Next thing, I know, I'm buying

1637
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: three thousand American dollars on PEP times. It was for

1638
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: six months. This was a long time.

1639
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: That's a deal.

1640
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm being taught how to inject them by his trans assistant.

1641
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 3: She was very nice, and then it was competuous. She

1642
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: has a lot of jobs on I don't know if

1643
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: you guys know. She looked really cute yelling herself and

1644
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: on I so that's already yeah, pretty rock bots?

1645
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, and how rock bots? I'm gonna have to sit

1646
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: as in the rest you for that? But where where?

1647
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: How did you find the West Hollywood?

1648
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 3: So a girl I was like didn't know what was

1649
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 3: followed online tweeted about it.

1650
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: Y I know, first one hundred people that show up

1651
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: with this apartment.

1652
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: Is full on, like I need to go to the

1653
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: grippy socks, do you know what I mean? And then

1654
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: but I had a mutual with this girl and she

1655
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 3: had written or be like I need the in and

1656
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: I was like in a text her, I was like

1657
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: I need that info too. So then I get the info,

1658
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: I go whatever it was, it was actually tying right

1659
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: back into the beginning of the convo. It was like

1660
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: the very I had just finished a big sprint of work, right,

1661
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 3: and I always get sick after that. It's like like clockwork.

1662
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 3: And so I go out to dinner that night full

1663
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: chalk full of peptides. Also, this is why you'll get

1664
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 3: why I thought maybe he was gay. He was like,

1665
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 3: do you also want to lose five pounds? And I

1666
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: was like, well, yes, of course everybody also wants to

1667
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 3: lose five but it's not one person on earth who

1668
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: doesn't say yes to that. And so he gave me

1669
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 3: one peptide that was like a not on market yet,

1670
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: and still I think is an on market. It's like

1671
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 3: two years ago GLP one. First of all, I get

1672
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 3: so sick, like almost immediately, Well, I didn't eat for

1673
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: three weeks. I got back, well, didn't eat three weeks.

1674
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, that was bad, and then got

1675
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 3: intervened because then literally one week later, my house burned

1676
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 3: down with all the peptides in it. And that was

1677
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: that was God's plan to protect me from myself.

1678
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: I see the spirituality there.

1679
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I waited till now to play my tiny violin

1680
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: about my house burning down, when I could have been

1681
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: engendering so much sympathy and getting the audience on my

1682
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: side from the moment I got here, the restraint that

1683
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: it took to oh my god, I'm fine to make

1684
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 3: it weird. Yes, of course, look at I'm thriving.

1685
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: That is so wild.

1686
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: That was prehouse burning down.

1687
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: What I done.

1688
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: I think it's it's like the house burning down put

1689
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: things into perspective. I should have.

1690
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1691
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: Anyways, he's now like a millionaire like he was like

1692
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: he's like a millionaire peptide guy. And he was like,

1693
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: you were my second ever client. And I was like,

1694
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: good for you. Sis.

1695
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: You know, I have to say a gig guy telling

1696
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: you you should That's what I'm saying. A gig guy

1697
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: telling you should lose five pounds. Obviously offensive, but like

1698
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: I guess he said, do you want to put a streak?

1699
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: I asked you if you if you want to lose

1700
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: five pounds, that's like fully.

1701
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: Like kind of offensive. Yeah. I was like, I mean,

1702
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: if you think I.

1703
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: Need as a straight man, like do you want to lose?

1704
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: Might behoove you.

1705
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm taking my straight man hat off, and

1706
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm putting my casting darc hat on. Do you want

1707
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: to lose five pounds?

1708
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm hosting an audio only podcast.

1709
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: At that time, He's like, keep telling yourself that, sweetheart. Yeah,

1710
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: should we wrap up?

1711
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: That's a great place to Endy'll say, thank you so

1712
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: much for that.

1713
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm scared, sorry about your house. Goodbye.

1714
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable this cosation go any further because I

1715
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: don't know what else is under there.

1716
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: I love it. I literally could talk to you about

1717
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: Madonna for hours, and now that I have your number,

1718
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: I might be texting because you know, as we said,

1719
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: we're literally neither of us is.

1720
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 1: Done with the close. I'm like nearing the halfway.

1721
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm at the halfway point.

1722
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: And now I'm learning there's a mailbag episode I have

1723
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: to listen to after the movies.

1724
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: Episode just came out today.

1725
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: Really, there's a guest.

1726
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: It's Sean Fantasy and Amanda Dobbins of The Ring Podcast.

1727
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 2: Whoa Have you ever seen Swept Away? The Guy Rich?

1728
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 2: She directed Madonna movie? No, Oh, Crazy crazy Town?

1729
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 3: Watch it.

1730
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen any of the movies you've

1731
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: discussed in the podcast so far. Really, yeah, I've never

1732
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: seen Dick Tracy, I never saw Susan. Yeah, you have

1733
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: never seen Desperately Seeking Suddenly that's basically suddenly Susan.

1734
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: I believe it was a right, that's where.

1735
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: And then it's like suddenly Seymour, which is what I

1736
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: was thinking. Is a song from Thattle Shop before.

1737
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: Oh sure, but yeah you should watch that's really good.

1738
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to I mean, I'm gonna do a

1739
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: lot of Madonna consuming over the next couple.

1740
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Speaker 2: Of the best Madonna film is the music video for

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: God Control, where she solves school shootings.

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Speaker 1: That's so tough.

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: It's a tough one.

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01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.

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01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: But she's writing in her little typewriter.

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01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: Else, Yeah, it's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Outs. Okay, and in

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01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: the segment we pay amage to the grand straight tradition

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: of the radio shout out, shouting out anything that we're enjoying, people, places, things, concepts,

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01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: and we make them up on the spot and Georgie

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01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: and I do go first and do you have one?

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: Sure?

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to the chica

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01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: who works at the Intelligency, a close to our studio

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 2: that is a big fan of the podcast, and gave

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01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 2: Sam a free coffee cake this morning when I was

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01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: not part of when I was not with him. Yep,

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: I have just now made the decision that I'm going

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01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 2: to eat the coffee cake which Sam offered to me earlier,

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 2: but I wasn't hungry enough, And so I want to

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: thank you belatedly. You thought you're reading the Sam, I'm

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01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: going to be the one eating it. I hope that's okay.

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01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 2: And I just want to say I feel, you know,

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01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: LA isn't my home. I live in New York, and

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: so whenever you know the idea that I would go

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: to tow an intelligence yet in Hollywood of all places,

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: and be recognized, if you have no idea how much

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: that means to me. I kind of feel like I

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01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: am Madonna during the Desperately Sequin Susan promo tour and

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01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: so and I have to say, you know, Intelligency coffee

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: is pretty good. So I think it's nice that we

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: have fans in places like Intelligentsia and not sort of

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01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: like a flop coffee shop where I wouldn't want to

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: go and get my business so shout out to all

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: third wave coffee everywhere, and shout out to Los Angeles

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: in California. I think you guys can turn it around.

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: What's up freak solutions and perpots around the globe. I

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01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to my dear

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01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: college friend Gary Kanino. Gary Canino told me everything I

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: need to know about music. Ever. He lives in La

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01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. There is a music scene here. He

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01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 1: does play music, and he tells me that it exists.

1783
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I have only been to one to two of his

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01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: shows here, but they do exist. Check out Dark Tea

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01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: everywhere you consume music. You know, if you don't have

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01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: a guy in your life who tells you what music is,

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how learn about it. For me, it's

1788
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: all about having a guy, and you know, I have

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: to check him with Gary every year so to be like,

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: so what do I listen to now? Because basically my

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01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: taste comes entirely from him, and if it weren't for him,

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know pretty much anything. And he also took

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: an acting class randomly La shout out California. It changes

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: us all and peptides will be in my diet starting tomorrow.

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01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm literally texting texting my pet Tides guy and.

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01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I will be over there shortly, so have them warmed

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: up and ready to inject me Mama Sam and.

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01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Shout out to Joe Coscro. I'm sorry that I came

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01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: for you, and I love you, and I forgive you

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: for not liking Charlie xx.

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: I am still questioning.

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01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: Okay, oh okay, Well, you guys covered so much there.

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01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 3: You brought back how you're so hungry because you only

1804
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: had half the sandwich, the whole sandwich. You had to

1805
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 3: remind him that you have a little sandwich. Okay, what's up?

1806
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: What are you gonna say? Freaks and losing? What's up? Freaks?

1807
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 3: Some losers.

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: I have a couple.

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01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 3: I have a few music ones. There's a band called

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01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 3: bad Rol in the bay Are. If you guys want

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: to be like very early adopters, bad Roll is my

1812
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: suggestion to you. They're awesome. It's like very like dense, sludgy, beautiful,

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: dreamy shoegaze. It's like b A d v R.

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01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 1: I L Okay.

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01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 3: They're available on the Spotify platform or wherever you find music.

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01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: Give it a listen. Really good. Also, you know, if

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01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 3: you're a tear up ice age, a well known band

1818
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 3: just put on a new album really really really good,

1819
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 3: really love. And then thirdly, I would like to give

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01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 3: a recommendation of taking an adult class that is not

1821
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: a fitness class, that makes you feel uncomfortable, damages your

1822
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: ego a little, but ultimately helps you grow as a person.

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: For example, I just started taking adult ballet.

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01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: Really, that's right.

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01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: It's something I do know if from following you on

1826
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: Instagram and because I need everyone to know about it,

1827
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: almost bring it up to ask you, like, do you

1828
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: think it's straight that you're doing that? Or do you

1829
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: think that it's queer that you're doing that? The idea

1830
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: of taking an adult ballet class as a woman in music,

1831
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: it's a.

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01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: Woman of musical experience. I don't I think it's queer,

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01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah is it?

1834
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: I think I think it's straight, but in like a

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: wonderful expanses like.

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01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: My presentation and unfortunately like deeply straight, yeah.

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01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Totally, which we celebrate.

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01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, and that's okay.

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 3: I think really it's a disease good well soon style.

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: I love it.

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01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: I wanted to feel I want to feel more feminine, Yeah,

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01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 3: and I want to wear a ballet shoes. Of course,

1843
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 3: it's hard and I love it.

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: And it's not about.

1845
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 3: Exercise, which I really like. It's not like a plate's class.

1846
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: They're not like pump your growing or whatever they sayd

1847
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: you know on point. Maybe in three years of adult

1848
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 3: bealte when I'm forty seven, all about you guys to

1849
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: my recital.

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01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: I would love to go.

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: Forward to La in la. I'm going to an adult

1852
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:03,919
Speaker 1: ballet recital.

1853
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: They're going to make a sketch comment out of this.

1854
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Are you No?

1855
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 3: No?

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01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: That would require me to actually put pen to paper

1857
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: and final cut pro this this, which happens approximately once

1858
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: a year.

1859
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: Media has sucked us dry of putting pen to paper.

1860
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy because talking and writing and people are like, hey,

1861
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: do you want to write a book?

1862
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, i'd rather well, that's literally The issue is

1863
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: that you get some creative energy out somehow and then

1864
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: it's not pent up anymore, so you don't need to

1865
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: sit down and write.

1866
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 3: And writing is really hard.

1867
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: It's so hard and it pays so little.

1868
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: So little. Do you want to write a book?

1869
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: No? God no, I can barely read one. Well, thank

1870
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: you for doing the podcast. This has been such a

1871
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 1: true treat.

1872
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: And everyone can listen to band's plain Yah's podcast on

1873
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: Where and specifically the Madonna series, which I just found

1874
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:55,879
Speaker 2: out is still ongoing.

1875
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 3: We got a little comment today and I was like, sorry,

1876
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 3: this is a Madonna podcast. Now I feel like it's

1877
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: been several months. I thought it was an indie rock body.

1878
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: Well, it is sort of crazy how you're punishing your listeners.

1879
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: You're a male listener.

1880
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 3: It's been five weeks. It's not been several months. The

1881
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: hyperbilia is excessive, and it's not an indie rock podcast either,

1882
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: And just like, okay, fine, come back. It's free. Yeah,

1883
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 3: this is available to you free of charge. I'm sorry,

1884
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: didn't please you, sir. Come back next week. We'll have

1885
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: something else.

1886
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, and on that angry note, goodbye, goodbye,