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Speaker 1: Good luck with the most beautiful game. Do us proud

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Speaker 1: read a lot?

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Speaker 2: They're running again?

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Speaker 1: So smoothe so sweet, splendid.

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Speaker 3: Sisting, just glorious execution.

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Speaker 2: Guys, all I'm looking for is sixty percent effort, four

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Speaker 2: thousand percent of the time. How shut with that shop

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Speaker 2: of mind?

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Speaker 1: Good buddy, And that's why you.

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Speaker 3: See your beautiful tiers. Look at his movements, the most

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Speaker 1: Nobody picks them.

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Speaker 4: God shut up, I'm trying the one.

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Speaker 3: It's left to one, the wide eyed.

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Speaker 1: Drill pibus how old Earth pick happens?

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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, and welcome to Wondergul, the soccer betting podcast

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Speaker 4: from the Action Network. My name is Michael lebuff and

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Speaker 4: joining me for another season preview my friend and colleagues

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Speaker 4: Anthony Dubundo and bj Cunningham. And we also have a

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Speaker 4: very special guest with us today, Alan Shapiro from the

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Speaker 4: FML FPL Fantasy EPL Podcast. Alan, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man, I'm psyched to beyon. I'm a fan of

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Speaker 2: the show. I'm a fan of gambling. I'm a fan

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Speaker 2: of the Premier League.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it, dude, Yeah, so you tick every box

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Speaker 4: here with Anthony VJ, and myself. This will be a

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Speaker 4: you normally listen to us on. This one will be

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Speaker 4: a snake draft with our favorite point totals for the

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Speaker 4: upcoming Premier League season. So in other words, let's say

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Speaker 4: I like the Manchester United over is my favorite bet,

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Speaker 4: that one first, and then it would snake on through

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Speaker 4: where we're at now, BJ, Anthony, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a huge fan of buckets, Michael, so I'm

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Speaker 3: And when I first pitched this podcast idea, they laughed

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Speaker 4: And on that note, Anthony, you randomized the order. Can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Alon won the draft. He will get the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'll be a good way for us to

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Speaker 1: All right, my one one is still on the board.

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Speaker 1: I went through and projected out all the point totals

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Speaker 3: This year, they underperformed their expected goals. Not only that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good game theory going with that purse.

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Speaker 4: Here lois total on the board Bourne Mith thirty two

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Speaker 4: So it's a funny gambling fallacy too. I see it

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Speaker 3: I'm for sure about that. I think we have to

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Speaker 3: the Trees.

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Speaker 1: The Trees will have something to say relegation.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so my second round pick, and I have to

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Speaker 4: All right, BJ, We're back on to you. Any thoughts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with the Lester under. So the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this, this is interesting so Brighton. They obviously lose

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Speaker 4: I would take the under on Brighton, which sounds weird

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what the attack looks like right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's been so much action. It's just

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Speaker 2: It's just very different. Right, it's Wolves too, Right, I'm

435
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: looking at Wolves. Netto is like the highest owned budget

436
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 2: mid in the entire game, in the entire Fantasy game.

437
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: That's how their attack. It's better. He's their best attacker

438
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 2: by a long stretch. And he played like five games

439
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: last year. And Gibbs White was a superstar in the

440
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 2: championship and he's playing and Potents is fit. You know,

441
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: that's how their attack. It's better. So I was actually

442
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 2: going to go over on Wolves potentially, but I do

443
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 2: like the over Brighton. I would be Jay on that one.

444
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: So for my picks, a lot of my picks got taken.

445
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the punishment for going first, I guess.

446
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: But I'm going to go with a controversial one. I know,

447
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 2: you know, certainly Anthony's probably going the other way on this,

448
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: but I'm going under for Fulham. I just really don't

449
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: like Marco Silva. I don't think that he's going to

450
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: do a good job. I think he's he would be

451
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: my pick for first manager fired. I think that like

452
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: the way that they played in the Championship does not

453
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: scale well to the Premier League. You just can't do that.

454
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: They're not going to dominate the ball. You can't just

455
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: outscore every team in the Premier League. Their defense is shambolic.

456
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: It's a disaster, and he just leans into that. He

457
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: just almost like doesn't care. He's like, yeah, so what,

458
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna out score you? And it just doesn't It's

459
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: just not going to work, you know. So the points

460
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: sotol that you sent us as thirty seven and a half,

461
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: they're basically saying they're the third relegated team, you know,

462
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: the eighteenth position team, and I think they could easily

463
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 2: finish twentieth or nineteenth or even eighteenth and go under

464
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 2: thirty seven and a half. I just think it's way

465
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: too high. So I'm under there.

466
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: You know.

467
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, they

468
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: were obviously the best championship team last season, so usually

469
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 2: that team you would project to do better in the

470
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: Premier League than the worst championship teams that also got promoted.

471
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 2: But I just think stylistically it's just not a fit.

472
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: And we've seen him not change and not adjust to

473
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: the Premier League well in the past, and so I

474
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: don't expect him to this time around. I know that

475
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: song and dance, you know that ball.

476
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: All too well, and I agree with you. I think

477
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 4: I think that's another interesting kind of betting narrative that

478
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: gets bet into. It's like you look at the three

479
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: teams came up and you're like, okay, well this team,

480
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 4: Like how often do we see North City run away

481
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: with the championship and then just go right back down right,

482
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 4: like because Daniel Farket did the same thing. Like we

483
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: can just bum rush Preston and we can bum rush

484
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: s Gunthorpe, but you're not gonna be able to do

485
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: that to the Wolves and aston Villa, who have competent managers.

486
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: And also it's interesting that the three managers coming up,

487
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: Like we'll teach Anthony about Steve Cooper. I know he

488
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 4: likes to wait for guys to become hip before he

489
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: keep yes into them. But Steve Cooper for Nottingham Force

490
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 4: is he's the next Grand Potter. It's not just because

491
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 4: they kind of look like they could be related, all right,

492
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: all on your backup.

493
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then just a little bit of piggybacking out

494
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: for that. I forgot to mention I actually was gonna

495
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: go Bourne with over It's like almost the exact opposite argument.

496
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: I think Scott Parker has shown to be very competent.

497
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: He did a really good job with Fulham. He knows

498
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: that they have to play defensively encounter and that's the

499
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: only way through and defense is matters so much more

500
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the table to me. So I

501
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: actually was like, yeah, they project in my head. You know,

502
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm not modeling, but in my head, I was like, yeah,

503
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna be way better than these other teams

504
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: at like adjusting to the Premier League. But anyway, Yeah,

505
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: so my other pick, A lot of my favorites were taken.

506
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: Some struggling here a little bit, but I guess I

507
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna go Chelsea under you know, big call,

508
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: good team, good manager, lots of good players, love the

509
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: sterling by. I think it's going to make them better.

510
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: Seventy one and a half. I still just don't think

511
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 2: that they're the third best team in the league. I

512
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: think that Spurs are And so if in my head

513
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: I think they're finishing fourth, then that is too high

514
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: a number. I mean, usually seventy two points would not

515
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: be fourth placed. I mean that's almost never happened, you know,

516
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: at least recently. Cool BALI I like, but he's in

517
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: my mind, significantly worse than Rudi. He's older, he's declining. Yeah,

518
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: and again like Sterling, I like, I think he's going

519
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: to give them a lot of goals. But I hate

520
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: their midfield. I just think it's really old and they

521
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 2: keep just not addressing it, and all of them are

522
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: injury prone. I think that's a big problem for them.

523
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a little bit down on them.

524
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think if if you had to make me

525
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: pick it at Chelsea, bet I would go under too.

526
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: I think it's just a season that's right for chaos,

527
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: I think, yes. And Thomas Tuckle is someone who just

528
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: wants to control everything, so that, like Anthony was kind

529
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 4: of saying with Leicester, how we're things have maybe gone

530
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: stale and that could cause a team to just kind

531
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: of plummet, especially if they don't address the issue. The

532
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: opposite is true, and I think Chelsea's kind of the

533
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: opposite where if everything just goes you know, hey Wire,

534
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 4: which there's a lot of potential for, and Tuckle loses

535
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: his mind. I mean this and when you say I

536
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: hate when people say, like a season's a disaster for

537
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: a team like Chelsea because that just means they finished

538
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: six or seventh and whatever that's still good. Is a disaster, Yeah,

539
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 4: but it's a good season for for Everton. It's an

540
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: amazing You watch a very different league than I do, right,

541
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: Like you're competing for these spots, right, so it's very different.

542
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: All right, Bjay, you're up next anything Chelsea Fulham?

543
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually kind of like the Chelsea over seventy

544
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: one and a half. I think that adding Kubali really

545
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: basically just it's a one for one swap, I believe

546
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 1: with Rudeger and you know, we'll see if they get

547
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Kunde or if Barcelona gets him, who knows. But the

548
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: Sterling signing obviously improves them an attack. And I mean

549
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: if you look at five thirty eight, I mean they

550
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: have Chelsea at seventy two points. I project them at around

551
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: seventy eight. So I mean this is I think that

552
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: the rest towards that upper echelon too. But I think

553
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: there's a pretty big gap between there's first four teams

554
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: and then there's one tier below that, and then it's

555
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: a pretty big drop off after that, So I think

556
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: Chelsea is definitely one of the best three teams in

557
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: the Premier League right now, obviously one of the best four.

558
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: So I actually think the signings are gonna help Chelsea.

559
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean they kept basically the same

560
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: attack together besides the Coca, who didn't even actually play

561
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: towards the end of last season. So I think Sterling

562
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Certily was a point six to seven xgper ninety guy

563
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: at City last year, so adding him to the attack

564
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I was I think it improves them drastically. With my

565
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: next pick, I'm gonna go Newcastle under fifty six and

566
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: a half. This is a tattoo high. And when I

567
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: saw this number, it was kind of like, Okay, Newcastle

568
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: obviously have all this new money and they're able to,

569
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, push that money into the transfer market, but

570
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: they didn't really do a whole lot. They got Boatman,

571
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: they got Nick Pope, they you know, made Target a

572
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: permanent signing, but that's about it. You know, it's not

573
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: really in this team, even if you take them from

574
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: obviously they were pretty terrible up until January when they

575
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: actually got bought, and then they made some signings they'll

576
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: get tripy air back injury. So yeah, you can say

577
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: they improve. They'll improve a little bit, but they were

578
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: basically an even expecting gold differential from January on last year.

579
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: So that's not you know, a team that's going to

580
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: project to finish in the top six or seven, which

581
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: is basically what you're gonna have to get with fifty

582
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: six for fifty seven points. So for Newcastle, I mean,

583
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe towards the end of the window they'll

584
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: make a gigantic splash and they'll get like Maymar or something,

585
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: but who knows. But yeah, fifty six and a half

586
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: is a tad hig. I mean they're basically projecting Newcastle

587
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: to be basically the best team outside the top six,

588
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: which is a little high for me comparatively some of

589
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: the other teams that are near them up towards the

590
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: that upper echelon outside the top six. So Newcastle under

591
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: fifty six and a half is a tattoo hive for me.

592
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: So I'll take their under.

593
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy you took that. I wasn't going near

594
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 4: that one at all, Anthony. What are your thoughts and

595
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: you're up next?

596
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the two picks that I had lined

597
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: up here were the Chelsea under and the Newcastle under

598
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: and they both went. So now I'm stuck. But you know,

599
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: I agree with Alan's point about Chelsea's midfield. They add

600
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: Connor Gallagher, but what do we know? The strength of

601
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Connor Gallagher is not being on the ball, but showing

602
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: up in the box, adding into the goals and the

603
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: assists by always seeming to be in the right pa

604
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: it's the right time. But that's not really what Tukle

605
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: wants and that's not really how Chelsea operates, and that's

606
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: not how a top four five team is going to play.

607
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: And I think there's going to be a bit of

608
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: an interesting development with that because he doesn't do a

609
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: ton of ball winning, he doesn't do a ton of

610
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: passing because he's not on the ball that much. And

611
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really fascinating John Muller roade,

612
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: you know, the no touch All Stars players who were

613
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: really effective without being on the ball a lot. I

614
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 3: don't know how much that works in this system, so

615
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see what happens there. Conte and

616
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: Covidchic both saw not only declines in minutes because of injuries,

617
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: but declines in production in those minutes tackles interceptions per

618
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: ninety four, Conte was down and the progressive carries were

619
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: down for covidchit, so you're getting a little bit less

620
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: out of them and Rudiger. It does something that I

621
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: don't think Kolbali does a ton of, which is ball carrying.

622
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: I think Rudiger is one of the better ball carriers

623
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: among center backs in the world. Cool body can do it,

624
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: but his numbers in Italy are not the same on

625
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: that level. And so for all those reasons, I'm down

626
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: on Chelsea relatively. I think they may be fifth. I

627
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: think it's not that crazy. I think it's definitely the

628
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: gap between them and Spurs and Arsenal. Of course, in

629
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: the point totals, Chelsea and Spurs at the same point total,

630
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Arsenal is a little bit lower. I don't think the

631
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: gap between Chelsea and Arsenal is that big at the moment,

632
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: if what I think about Jesus is true. So that's

633
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: my take on Chelsea and Newcastle.

634
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: I agree.

635
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: I mean, they could go out and spend a ton

636
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: of money in the next five weeks and make us

637
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: look like idiots, but they are not the seventh best

638
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: team right now in the league. They had one point

639
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: h five expected goals per ninety after the Chansfer window close.

640
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: That's bad.

641
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: That's really bad. And they have not added any attackers.

642
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 3: So I like brunogimeries, but until like you know, they

643
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: get a striker in or Callum Wilson decides he's gonna

644
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: stay healthy for a full year. I can't buy into

645
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: this team being seventh with the attacking talent they have

646
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: compared to even someone like Lester or west Ham who

647
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: just made some adjustments. So I agree on both of

648
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: those with you guys. I am going to steal one

649
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: of Lee boss picks. I think I'm gonna take Everton under.

650
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Everton under forty four and a half

651
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: like they lost for Charlaston, And we talked about this

652
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: a lot, like they haven't added anybody to replace him

653
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: at the moment. And yes, we do expect dcl to

654
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: be healthier, and we kind of know what he is.

655
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: He's going to score about half a goal x g

656
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: P ninety, He's going to get about a goal every

657
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: other game. He's a good Premier League striker. Is he

658
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: going to play thirty nineties? Like, I bet the under

659
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 3: on that, and so you know you're getting less than

660
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: fifteen goals from Calvert Lewin and nobody else on the

661
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: team has proven to show much of a goal scoring punch.

662
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: We all agree. I think that Lampard's kind of a

663
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: bad manager and has never shown the ability to truly

664
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: improve a team. Their defense did get better, but I

665
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 3: think a lot of it was just dead cat bounce

666
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: at the end of the season and really just packing

667
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: it in playing to try to stay up. So I'm

668
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: taking the Everton under forty four and a half. I

669
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: think it's a little high. I think they're going to

670
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: be back in the relegation scrap again. I do think

671
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: they stay above it because I think there are worst

672
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: teams for sure, but getting them to forty five is

673
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: really hard given the squad construction right.

674
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: Now, Yep, yeah, I wouldn't disagree well with that, and

675
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: I'll say it right now, they're going down.

676
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm the same song and dance for thirty matches instead

677
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: of fifteen.

678
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: This year, wearing the kid saying they're going down. That's brutal.

679
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: Then, of course last year you said what it was

680
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: like twelve to one to go down or something like that.

681
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: You had last.

682
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: One, Yeah, and I remember it. I said, I said, well,

683
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: rough Beniza has got a team relegated before, so.

684
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the season pod last year.

685
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but like you said, they haven't done anything

686
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: to chardlessen with. I think their most important player in

687
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: the most important part of the season, right, like literally

688
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: willed them across the line against two different teams to

689
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: get four points. One a draw against Leicester where he

690
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 4: scored the tie and goal, and then that game against

691
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: Palace at the end too, Like just was just incredible

692
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: all over the place. And he does so much too

693
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: from from his position. You're gonna love it, Anthony. I

694
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: think people his reputation outside of Evertten is very different

695
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: from what it is inside, which is he just works

696
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: his tail off and very impactful player in kind of

697
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: all phases of the game. Yeah, and I kind of

698
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: agree with every point you made, right. I think they're

699
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: they're like in this like weird fifteenth or sixteenth spot

700
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: in the league table because they're probably they probably have

701
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: enough in key positions to stay up. I like to

702
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: move for James Tarkowski, Like we saw what happened when

703
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: Urimina went down. That's what happened to their defense, right,

704
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: Like Frank Lampard just happened to get ur amina back

705
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: when he was healthy. So and it was only for

706
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: a couple of games, but he makes such a difference

707
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 4: in him and Tarkowsky should improve that depth a little bit,

708
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: which hopefully helps. But it's gonna be a white knuckle

709
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: season once again for Everton. So but I'm with you

710
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: on that.

711
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot easier to see how things go wrong, right, Like,

712
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: you can see a lot of ways where this goes wrong.

713
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: Whereas what's the ceiling with this level of attacking?

714
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, the total is the total is basically

715
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: set at the ceiling.

716
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's close. Yeah, I could I could see a

717
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: snap back if they went and added a player.

718
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's be honest. If Calvert Lewin stays

719
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: healthy all season, if Mina stays healthy all season, Like

720
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: health was the problem for Everton last year, they went

721
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: through a large but.

722
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: As they only have like twelve good players, well still,

723
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean, and so like somebody, somebody will get hurt.

724
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I think the ceiling is not forty four and a half,

725
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: it's fifty in tenth place.

726
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: I think it's like forty eighth and twelve. I would

727
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: say I can't see it higher. All right, I'll go

728
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: next with my my next two. I'm gonna buy Nottingham

729
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: Forest over thirty four and a half points.

730
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: This is this is just a bed on the manager.

731
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: I think Steve Cooper, you know you were talking about

732
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Marco Silva a little bit. We've talked about managers like

733
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: Frank Lampard or Bruneo Laje on the show a lot.

734
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: I think Steve Cooper is is more in that like

735
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: Thomas Frank Brentford Mold than closer to like being a

736
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: bad manager. He's this guy got this team from near

737
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: the bottom of the table in the championship around October first.

738
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: They just didn't take their foot off the pedal, and

739
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: they on big games. He knows how to manage his

740
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: way in and out of certain situations that I think

741
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: are going to prove vital. Do I think that they're

742
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: like a great bet to stay up? Probably not, but

743
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: that's not what the bet is, right, It's like will

744
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 4: they get I think they'll be the third, the third

745
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: or fourth worst team in the Premier League, and I

746
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 4: think that that should be enough to put them over

747
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: thirty four and a head points they should, I think

748
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: are a pretty good bet to get to thirty five

749
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: to thirty five thirty eight range. I think Jesse Linguard

750
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 4: is actually sneaky good move for a team like this

751
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: because you're just gonna need somebody to provide some sort

752
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: of spark and win a game out of nothing, and

753
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: that's what he can do for a team like Forrest

754
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: if they're playing, you know, in a relegation battle against

755
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: let's say Saints or someone. So I like, not in

756
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: a force. It's basically a bet on Steve Cooper as

757
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: a manager, Dean Henderson great goalkeeper two. So I just

758
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: think there's enough here for this team to be the

759
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: best of the newly promoted teams. And that's basically what

760
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: I'm betting on. Before I move on to my next one,

761
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: any thoughts there along, we'll start with you.

762
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I hear everything you're saying. I do

763
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: also like the fact that, you know, from a business perspective,

764
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the smartest thing to do

765
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: just throw fifty million dollars out there, but from a

766
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: projecting this season, it's obviously good. You know, they just

767
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: need a couple of these guys tohead whether you know,

768
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: I like Nico, I like, you know, I've heard good

769
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: things about Richards. Tywo's good. You know, he'll give them

770
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: some goals. Lingard's goes. Yeah. So I mean, I totally

771
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: hear you. I it's it's similar to what I was

772
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: saying about Fulham, right, It's like I see them coping

773
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: with the Premier League so much better than a team

774
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: like Fulham. I just think that, you know, they're going

775
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: to be in a five three to two and just

776
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: played them really defensively, and you just need that, like

777
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Sheffield United shaker of a season to just you know,

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: they keep a few more queens than they should, and

779
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: they score some more goals than they should, and they

780
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: get some pens and then all of a sudden they're

781
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: they're safe and they're on thirty eight or something like that.

782
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: I can totally see that.

783
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think Steve Cooper is just gonna he's

784
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: gonna be the new hip manager. He'll be connected to

785
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: like every every big club at some point towards the

786
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: end of the season. That's just how these things go, BJA.

787
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: It's how these things go. And for my other bet,

788
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: actually I'm going to go square here in the square

789
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 4: out and go City over ninety and a half points.

790
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

791
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: I just think they're much better than everybody else in

792
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: the league. They finished on ninety three points last year.

793
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 4: I think they're better. And I think if Liverpool drops

794
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: back a little bit, there's just gonna be more like

795
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: there's gonna be less pressure on them in this crazy

796
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: run and I just I think this this team's going

797
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: to waltz.

798
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm not working against them, No, I think it won't.

799
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: You're talking about like so like.

800
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: Like my argument, and this is the thing with me,

801
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 3: is like if we met the City over and Liverpool

802
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: isn't as good and they lock up the league, like

803
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: they just kind of rotate and worry about the Champions

804
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: League maybe or the Cup.

805
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: Bit like whatever. I think I look at the other ways,

806
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: like it's just less pressure and you know, you're handicapping

807
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: something that's just really tough to handicap at that point.

808
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: I just if looking at it from a from a

809
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 4: simple perspective of are they better than they were last year?

810
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: They were at ninety three points last year in a

811
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: league where they were in a dog fight, right yeah, yeah, So,

812
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: and especially if they get Couckarea too. Like, so it's

813
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: not my favorite bet on the board. But I just

814
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: think ninety and a half is a little low. That's

815
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: saying that they're going to be like the City of

816
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: two seasons ago, or closer to that one than the

817
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 4: one that they were last year. And I think that

818
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: they're better than both those teams. So I like, I

819
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: like them getting you know, closer than ninety five ninety six.

820
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: They're definitely not deeper. That's the only fear. Like they

821
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: have lost a good bit of their depth, you know, Jaesus,

822
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: I think jay Zus and Sterling.

823
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Yes, well they got Holland, they got Ali and Alvarez,

824
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: and they have depth behind that. They got voted and

825
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: they got Grealish, they.

826
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: Got well, I'm not saying they don't have death. I'm

827
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: not saying they don't have depth, but again, okay, and

828
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: they lose d Chenko if they don't add Cougarrea. The

829
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: fullbacks are a little thin, and the center back situation,

830
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: I just think there's there is a world where if

831
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: Kyle Walker starts to break down that and I'm playing

832
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: Devil's advocate here. I don't want the city under at all,

833
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like ninety and a half.

834
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: Is so many points, it's a lot.

835
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know if Holland gets hurt, which he

836
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: has done before.

837
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean they played without a.

838
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: They don't have Sterling and Jaesus. Yeah. I look, I'm

839
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: not betting the under. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, I

840
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: think there's a world where like they do wrap up

841
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: the league because they're either too good that nobody keeps

842
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: up and they kind of rotate through the end of

843
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: the season, or a lot can go Not much has

844
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: to go wrong for you to drop a few points

845
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: here and there and get you know, soccered into that.

846
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: But yes, I I mean like a lot, a.

847
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: Good amount went wrong for them to even get to

848
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: ninety three points last year, Like they drew Crystal Palace

849
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: and they've lost the Christas lost the Palace, right, So

850
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: like you get one out of six points against Palace

851
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: zero or one out of six against Spurs or zero

852
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: out of six against Spurs zero, Yeah, including no Spurs, right,

853
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: So like this is there were things that went wrong

854
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: for this team and they still got to ninety three points.

855
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I see where Anthony is coming from.

856
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just the case for it. It's like,

857
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm not betting it either. I think that like they'll

858
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: probably win the league and it's a really conservative number.

859
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean they're one of the most injury

860
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: lucky teams last season, right, Like, no one had significant

861
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: time except for Walker, like maybe the last month of

862
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: the season, right, So.

863
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: And if ken Sello got hurt, that will be that

864
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: would be a huge loss. So they want Cook so bad,

865
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 3: right right, And of course, and like the two biggest

866
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: question marks I had were, Okay, they're gonna get a striker.

867
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: They got Holland, and they're going to get depth for

868
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: roudri They did, they got Phillips. And so I'm not

869
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: thinking I'm picking City to win the league and I'm

870
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: not laying minus one sixty, but I am picking City

871
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: in the league. But you know, if I had to

872
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: bet this, if you put a gun to my head

873
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 3: and said bet this, I'm betting the under. All right,

874
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: you're up next, Anton, I'm up. Thankfully, I do not

875
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: have to bet the City under. I have that at

876
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: the That was the that was the second to pick

877
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: at the bottom that I did not want to have

878
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, and one of the ones that I

879
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: am happy to do is Arsenal over sixty five points. Yeah,

880
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: what you were thinking, I thought I thought it was

881
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: a fair number.

882
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Honestly I thought so.

883
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: I actually think it's relatively fair now as well. But

884
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: we're at the point in the draft where I kind

885
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: of need to make picks on things that I you know,

886
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: maybe I'm not running to the window to go gamble.

887
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: But they only got eight goals from Abba and Loaca

888
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: last year, and it was clearly their biggest problem. They

889
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: only got about point four xtu P ninety from those two,

890
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: and Socca and Martinelli were the main shot getters. Now

891
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: they're both at the age in their careers where you

892
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: would say it is a decent bet that they will

893
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: improve in the next year to two years as they

894
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: you know age. You know, they're twenty twenty one years old,

895
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: and so if they take a step forward or even

896
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: a tiny step forward, and then jay Esus gets the

897
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: shots that he showed early in his career at City

898
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: when he was the focal point of the attack until

899
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: finishing did him in, then I think they're going to

900
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: be a much better attack. And thus we'll go over

901
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: this and compete right around that sixty seven, sixty eight,

902
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: sixty nine, March four, fourth, third, fifth with Chelsea Spurs.

903
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: I think those three teams are very close, and I think,

904
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, while I thought seventy one and a half

905
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: was too high for Chelsea, I thought sixty five and

906
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: a half was too low for Arsenal. I think there'll

907
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: be somewhere in the middle, and so I'm going to

908
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: take that. Jaesus didn't have the same level of attacking

909
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: production in the last two seasons, but again it was

910
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: a different role. We talked about the false nine, we

911
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 3: talked about the COVID year. They didn't play a striker.

912
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: He was on the wing, doing some wing production. He

913
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: can do a lot of different things to pass and

914
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: interchange with this group of Arsenal players, and so I

915
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: like what I'm seeing there, and I liked this in

916
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 3: chenko edition. I think it adds depth. I don't think

917
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: he starts every week, but I do think that Arsenal's

918
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: biggest issue was the drop off when when Tierney got hurt,

919
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: when Party got hurt, the drop off was big and

920
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: that really killed them. We cannot have new No Tavares

921
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: making a lot of Premier League starts. Gosh, no we're

922
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, so or twenty twenty three for that matter.

923
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: I'm going with Arsenal over and you know, I don't

924
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: want to have to say that. I could wash my

925
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: mouth out with soap before we make my next pick,

926
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's gonna.

927
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: Be my pick.

928
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: That's all right. As a big Liverpool fan, It's not

929
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: like Arsenal really comes on your raider that much. And

930
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 4: you know the weird that Zinschenka pushed for the Arsenal

931
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: move over the Everton one, but you know, people have

932
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: different motivations. BJ. What are your thoughts there on Anthony? Yeah,

933
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: your team is at a reverse Jings, what's going on there?

934
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he's trying to do.

935
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: He's trying to I don't know, getting my good graces

936
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: or something before the season, I guess. But yeah, I

937
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: have Arsenal projected right on about sixty five point four,

938
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: so I'm like right on with what it is and

939
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting season. Anthony hit the nail on

940
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: the head is like they have to be healthy and

941
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: they haven't added depth to help out with that. I

942
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: think Williams Saliba is going to be a fantastic addition

943
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: coming back from loan on Marseille. He's another guy that

944
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: can play multiple positions. So you have him and Zinchenko

945
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: that should sure up your center midfielder depth and everything.

946
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: So who knows if Varsenal actually wants Squaut for Tilaman's

947
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: hey zeus. I mean Anthony already mentioned as well. You know,

948
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: he's only a point four to eight actually p ninety

949
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: guy last year for City. He was also in limited time.

950
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't the number one striker for a full season,

951
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: so who knows. I mean, he's looked great, great in preseason,

952
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: so that's made me very happy. But yeah, I know,

953
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: because you know who doesn't love overreacting to preseason games

954
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: in Orlando. But for my next pick, I would go

955
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: with a certain other North London team, but I don't

956
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: really want to say nice things about them, so instead

957
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with another London team. Gonna go west Ham

958
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: over fifty one and a half. It was an interesting

959
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: season for west Ham last year. They rushed out of

960
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: the gates, they were really really good, and then they

961
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: got a huge upset against Liverpool and then o'bonna gets

962
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: hurt and their defense just completely falls off a cliff

963
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: because they had no depth whatsoever. So if you look

964
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: at the splits with Obona for the first eleven matches,

965
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: they're around one point zero five expected goals allowed per

966
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: match without him for the last twenty seven one point

967
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: four to five extra allowed per match, so a pretty

968
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: drastic difference. Now he'll back to Manja. They also added

969
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: naif Egurud from ren in League who's a really good

970
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: ball controlling center back, really good in the air, so

971
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: he'll work really really well either alongside Abana or Zuma

972
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: whoever they have. So they actually have depth now in defense,

973
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: so I do expect their defense to improve, and they

974
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: also have one of the best defensive midfielders in the

975
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: Premier League and Declan Rice. Offensively, it's a little interesting,

976
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Antonio, he's, you know, one of our

977
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: favorites here on this podcast, but he wasn't that great

978
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: last season. They just added Skamaka from Sosuolo, who I'm

979
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: not really sure how he's gonna fit in West ham.

980
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: He's a drastic over performer. I know he had sixteen goals,

981
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: but that was on ten point eight in the you know,

982
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: wide open Seria os I don't know how that's really

983
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: going to translate the Premier League, but they still have

984
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: all of their wingers and great attackers, including Jared Bowen,

985
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: who I expect to take a big lead forward and

986
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: start to become essentially one of the best wingers outside

987
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: the top six. So I have west Ham right on

988
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: fifty three and a half points, so over fifty one

989
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: and a half, getting a little bit of value. You know,

990
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: they had fifty six last year with all their defensive

991
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: problems anyway, so I do expect that they'll be right

992
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: on as I project him to be pretty much the

993
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: seventh best team in the Premier League.

994
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

995
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: Until this week, I would have had them on my underlist,

996
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: pretty high on the list. But I think adding Skamaka

997
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: and looks like Philip Costach potentially makes a costage solid,

998
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: solid difference, you know, just getting more ways of scoring goals,

999
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of the west Ham attack

1000
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: became just kind of like, all right, we're gonna loof

1001
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: it up there to Antonio or we're gonna get it

1002
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: up there to Bowen and then they're gonna do some

1003
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: things and we'll see. Whereas I think Costache and Skamaka

1004
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm not as high on Skamaka either. Like when Arsenal

1005
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: was looking at him, I was like, ye, it doesn't

1006
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: make Arsenal better, but I think he can be a

1007
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: good supplemental piece in a West Ham team and he

1008
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: is relatively young. So I'm intrigued by what they've done

1009
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: this this offseason. Now you do worry about Europe because

1010
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: I think Europe definitely seemed like it caught up with

1011
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 3: them by the second half of the season. The squad depth,

1012
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: but they've added some death pieces and so.

1013
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: But they still went over this just totally.

1014
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly the problem so right, and they did run well.

1015
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean they're finishing ran they ran pretty well finishing wise,

1016
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: but overall overall, I think what happened in the last

1017
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: week with Kamaka and looks like Costage too, has kept

1018
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: me away from them generally speaking, whereas I was leaning

1019
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: toward the under.

1020
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: Well, I want one thing about Skamaka is we never

1021
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: questioned David Moyes's transfer business.

1022
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Never question David moys too. Who doesn't believe in.

1023
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: David moys That's right, all right, A lot your final

1024
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: two picks coming our way, But anything on what you've

1025
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: heard since yeah.

1026
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean I I was looking at the West Ham

1027
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: under that was going to be my next pick, So

1028
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: all that annuent the other direction. I just think, you know,

1029
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: obviously Ogbana was a really big one, but other than Abana,

1030
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: they just had no injuries. Last season. They basically have

1031
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: like ten out of their first eleven play every game.

1032
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a funny thing. But Antonio I had

1033
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: I had a golden boot ticket on him, and I

1034
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 4: was like, if this guy could just stay healthy, I

1035
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: think he'll be up at the top of the heney.

1036
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: And he played. He played thirty six matches in the league.

1037
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: He also started like basically every European match, so it's

1038
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: just like unheard of that he was able to stay fit.

1039
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't expect that a Guarret or a Garrett, however,

1040
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: you say his name just got ankle surgery, so you

1041
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: hate to see that for a new signing, you know.

1042
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, a couple injuries, Antonio.

1043
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Skamaka either, you know, Europe. I

1044
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 2: just they did sort of reinforce, but I just don't

1045
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: think it's enough, and I'm just not that high on

1046
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: them going into the season. I think they're fine, but

1047
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: you know, we're not left with that many great picks.

1048
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: I was going to go under it, but it's close.

1049
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: For my first pick, I'll go Aston Villa over fifty

1050
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: one and a half. I feel is it's actually very low.

1051
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm I thought you guys would be all over this pick,

1052
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: so I'm really happy that it fell to me. I mean,

1053
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: I think they're at worst probably a top half team,

1054
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: and that you know, whether it's tenth, you know, eleven, tenth,

1055
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: ninth around there. Conservatively, in my opinion, that's above fifty

1056
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: one and a half points already, and I think they

1057
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: have the upside of being like seventh. You know, they

1058
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: could be the seventeen, they could be right up to

1059
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: the top six. They could be eighth easily. And so

1060
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: I think that the range is pretty favorable, at least

1061
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: in my mind, of like where I expect them to

1062
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: end up. You know, obviously Gerard gets sacked. It's a nightmare.

1063
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: Alli can't score whatever. Any team could go through a nightmare.

1064
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: But I just don't really see it that much. I like,

1065
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: I like their players, I like their business a lot

1066
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: that they did early in the summer. You know, everyone's fit,

1067
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: everyone's ready to go. You know, I think they should

1068
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: be good. They finally have a DM, they haven't had

1069
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: one in like four years, so you know, Kamara in

1070
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: there and Digo Carlos at the back. I just think

1071
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: they're good. So I'll do that. And then now I'm

1072
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: left with just like four teams that I really don't

1073
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: want to pick, you know. So it's between Liverpool, Spurs

1074
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: lead Southampton and I'm just like sweating over here, not

1075
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: knowing what to do. I mean, I'm a Liverpool supporter.

1076
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: My temptation is to go over, but I'm not sure

1077
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to go there. It's scaring me how conservative

1078
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: of the five thirty eight projections are, Like they have

1079
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: City at eighty five points, in Liverpool at eighty points.

1080
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm like what, Yeah, they're just naturally going to kind

1081
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: of smush everybody together.

1082
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1083
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you run ten thousand, you know simulations, that's

1084
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: just kind of how it works because there's the disaster

1085
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 3: scenarios right right where like this you can only go

1086
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: up to ninety five. Really with Liverpool, like they're not

1087
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: going to get a hundred point. Oh I shouldn't say

1088
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: that later, but like they they're probably not getting a

1089
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: hundred points, but like, yeah, they could get everybody hurt

1090
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: again and go to seventy four, right.

1091
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: And I think about you know where they've been recently Underclomps.

1092
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: So it's like two out of the last four seasons,

1093
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: I think they're ninety two points and ninety eight points

1094
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: or something like that, or in ninety nine, you know,

1095
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: and then you know they had the really bad injury year.

1096
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: The even the year before that when they lost the

1097
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: title to City again, they were one point off. It

1098
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: was like ninety seven or something, right, So the trend

1099
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: is for both City and Liverpool to be like mid

1100
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: nineties ish. So I don't really know why it's eighty

1101
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: five and a half. I guess fuck it, I'll just

1102
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: go over over for Liverpool and just be a homer.

1103
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what else I want to

1104
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: do here, so I just I mean, I'm curious to

1105
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: hear what you guys think, because it's sort of sounded

1106
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: like what you guys were saying is you think Liverpool

1107
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: will take a step back. I just don't really get that.

1108
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they're like markedly better, but I just

1109
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: don't really see how they're worse, you know, they added

1110
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: some pieces, you know, Mone maybe maybe that's your reasoning.

1111
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: I could see that, but I also expect like Das

1112
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: to get better. He was only there for half a season.

1113
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: You know, Newnez will contribute in some way. Carvaglio is interesting.

1114
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. They're a good team cops.

1115
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: You know, one A one B best manager in the world.

1116
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: So going eighty five and a half over seems okay

1117
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: to me.

1118
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Michael, what do you think about that comment, clopp being

1119
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: one A one B best manager in the world.

1120
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: What do you think? Yeah, you know what I think

1121
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's Lampard and then clop right, I

1122
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: think on this show it's it's we have this funny

1123
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: kind of relationship with Liverpool where they are always overvalued,

1124
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: Like the price is always inflated on Liverpool and we

1125
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: almost always show value betting against them, and then we

1126
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: almost always lose. Yeah, So like that is that is

1127
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: the kind of rock and a hard place you have

1128
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: when you're betting quote unquote numbers not teams, Like Bjay's

1129
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: projections won't Anthew's projections won't show value on Liverpool that much.

1130
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: Kind of in the same way Anthony was just talking

1131
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: about the five thirty eight models, like it's just really

1132
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 4: hard for models to get to you know, minus sixteen

1133
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: hundred on a three way money line, right, like it's

1134
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: just soccer man.

1135
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's just I guess the what I'm

1136
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: thinking in that in that regard starting to cut you

1137
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: off is just like, at what point does it become okay?

1138
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: Klop is clearly like doing something or the numbers are

1139
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: clearly not picking something up because he just they just

1140
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: keep overforming and squeezing these out.

1141
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: So the numbers are they are picking that up. They

1142
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: give they give hit, they give the team so much credit,

1143
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: and we're the ones who are are not catching up

1144
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: to it. Like that's the problem. So you're probably right.

1145
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 4: Like I didn't want to go. I was happy. I

1146
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: was really worried that this one was gonna come to

1147
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 4: me and then I would have to take the under.

1148
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: But not because I like it or anything, because if

1149
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: I if Liverpool just didn't exist, I'd probably be in

1150
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: a beach house somewhere. Anthony, what are your thoughts?

1151
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: Uh?

1152
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: You know, I think the thing we miss and and

1153
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: this is something that we talk about, like how we

1154
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: adjusted these teams Alison being like, by far the best

1155
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: one on one keeper in the prem I think is

1156
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: what is throwing off me when when I consistently bet

1157
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: the other team team total over a half, uh, and

1158
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: they get two one on ones and one goes off

1159
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: the post and the other one, you know, he makes

1160
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: this incredible fingertip save or something, And I really think,

1161
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, when you watch Liverpool and you're like, this

1162
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: defense can't continue to be as good, like they need

1163
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: to conceive more goals, and then sometimes they do, like

1164
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 3: you know, the year they did concede early in every game,

1165
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that was just fatigue.

1166
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: I also think Liverpool, you know, the biggest question mark

1167
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: for me with these top top teams is the World Cup.

1168
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: You know, Liverpool have the entire squad out at the

1169
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: World Cup, whereas some of these mid table teams aren't.

1170
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: And the same is true for City. I mean, the

1171
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: same is true for the really most of the top

1172
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: five or six, we don't know, We've never had this

1173
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 3: kind of situation before. Usually players are coming back off

1174
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: the World Cup and you're like, oh, they might start slow,

1175
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: but this weird break in the middle, I'm like, man,

1176
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: you know, like pretty much all of their best players

1177
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: are going to be playing for their teams in the

1178
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 3: World Cup, you know, and so what do we expect

1179
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: potentially from that? You know, that's another variable we haven't

1180
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: really talked about.

1181
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: We should.

1182
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: It seems like they're done with business. Is Nunez better

1183
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 3: than Mane right now this season?

1184
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: No?

1185
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: I think, like I think you'd have to and you know,

1186
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: so I think you'd have to expect some one of

1187
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: a step back. Sala is now wrong side of thirty.

1188
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Do we think he may take a step back?

1189
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: Good?

1190
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: I said that last year and then he was insane.

1191
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: He was never so I can't. I can't, like again,

1192
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: I'm playing devil's advocate here.

1193
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: No, No, I totally get it.

1194
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to run to the book to bet

1195
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: the under on the Liverpool either, But if I were

1196
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: about it, i'd probably about the end.

1197
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: But in the case of specifically Mo, Diaz Robbo, they're

1198
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: at least they're not going to the World Cup.

1199
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: It's like your first summer never don't have to do

1200
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: with that issue.

1201
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they get a full winter break, you know.

1202
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: So if if there's a year where Moe is just

1203
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: going to go back to like scoring thirty plus. It's

1204
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: probably this year more than any other year in the future.

1205
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: You know too, he has two breaks versus almost never

1206
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: having one.

1207
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, BJ Yeah, I mean real quick with the

1208
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: Liverpool things. So last year eighty six and a half

1209
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: expected points and that was pretty much, you know, they

1210
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: had the biggest thing of Liverpool. I mean, I think

1211
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: it's just injuries, Like if guys can stay healthy, like

1212
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: Fabinho and Thiago, like, yeah, Liverpool be right there over

1213
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: eighty five and a half. They're not healthy, then you

1214
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: dip more towards the under because we saw there were

1215
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: countless times that I remember in the middle of you know,

1216
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: it was around I think October September of last year

1217
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: where they had a bunch of midfielders injured and you

1218
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: had to basically go with like Kata Milner another on.

1219
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: Christmas right around christ the Spurs and the laster the

1220
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 2: Leicester game.

1221
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1222
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: I specifically remember them going up to nothing on Brighton

1223
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: like early on in September and October, and then they

1224
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: just had no like midfielders that could basically stop Brighton

1225
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: and and you know Basuma and and Waitpu and basically

1226
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: they were able to come back and you know, basically

1227
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: tie the game. So like in situations like that we

1228
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: obviously saw two years ago when catastrophic injuries and then

1229
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: they fell off and barely were able to make tough four.

1230
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: So I think eighty five and a half is pretty

1231
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: fair of a number. If they stay healthy, they're going

1232
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: over eighty five and a half. If they don't, they'll

1233
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: probably be right around there. So for my next pick,

1234
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: I really just don't want to talk about top them

1235
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: because I have only like positive things to say, so

1236
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: I really just don't want to say them. I'll go

1237
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: Southampton under thirty and a half. It's yeah, it's a

1238
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: very low number.

1239
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: It may be so bad when I saw this totally, it's.

1240
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: Very very low and like and there the arguments for

1241
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: the over here, like yeah, there can be, but I

1242
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: mean from January first on, and this has happened for

1243
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: two straight years now where this team just gets burnt

1244
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: out from all this pressing and over a long stretch

1245
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: of season. Now we're gonna have more condensed games over

1246
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: a long stretch. And they did make some moves to

1247
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: get some depth, but I mean only Norwich watforded Wolves

1248
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: had a worst expected gold tofferential from January first on

1249
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: last year than Southampton. They lose Brosia, they haven't made

1250
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: really any signings to replace them, so we're just gonna

1251
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: roll with Chay Adams and Adam Armstrong. That might be

1252
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: the worst attack in the Premier League in terms of

1253
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: two strikers. I'm like, I'm not even joking, like I think,

1254
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: so that's really bad. You have added thing where basically

1255
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: they yes, okay, you can make the argument that, oh, well,

1256
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: they allowed sixty eight goals off fifty eight expected, like

1257
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: their defense should regress and should get better. One of

1258
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: the you know, Allen, one of the stats we love

1259
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: the track here is big scoring chances, which is essentially

1260
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: point three to five x g or greater of a

1261
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: chance allowed. Southampton, by far and away allowed the most

1262
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: last season seventy one big scoring chances allowed. How with

1263
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: the signings that think they've obviously got some young guys,

1264
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: some gys from City. You know, they got a new goalkeeper.

1265
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: How is that going to get better? I really don't

1266
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: understand how that's going to get better. And so as

1267
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: we get through a more condensed schedule with the team

1268
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: that just presses and presses and presses, they're gonna get

1269
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: worn out like they have the last two seasons. I

1270
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: think they're getting relegated. Like I truly believe that Southampton

1271
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: is going to get relegated, and so if they're gonna

1272
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: get relegated, they're probably gonna be under thirty eight and

1273
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: a half points. So I even have a little bit

1274
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: of projected value on the over like I haven't at

1275
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: forty points. I know five thirty eight has, but forty

1276
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: as well. But I just don't see how this attack

1277
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: gets any It's gonna those attack's gonna get better from

1278
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: last year, and I don't see how their defense is

1279
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: going to stop allowing all these huge chances that they're

1280
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: going to continue to play Hassan Hudle ball Like I don't.

1281
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand how it's going to happen. So Southampton

1282
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: thirty and a half for me, I.

1283
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: Think the league as as a whole will be better

1284
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: this year, like the bottom just fell out of things

1285
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, yeah, in the past two seasons.

1286
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: Really, I mean Norwich everybody just beat up on Norwich

1287
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: last year. I don't think we hotly. I don't think

1288
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: we have in Norwich this year.

1289
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I'm like, so, I think though

1290
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: we probably would have said that last year. No, I

1291
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: think I had Watford.

1292
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: Last Yeah, I mean I I had a offer relegation

1293
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: ticket last year. I mean like, but yet, I mean, yes,

1294
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: we could we could be in November and Bournemouth could

1295
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: have like you know, they could be Derby County and

1296
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: we could be like, oh my gosh, how can we

1297
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: not see this coming?

1298
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: But I think the cohort of like three newly promoted

1299
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: teams are probably stronger. And I think that you can

1300
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: look at Leeds like Burnley's gone, and like we always

1301
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: knew what Burnley kind of was forever, Like they were

1302
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: just going to be a team that was going to

1303
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: hang around sixteen seventeenth, eighteenth place. And so it's just

1304
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: the makeup of the league is a little different, and

1305
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 4: I think that those spots now are kind of up

1306
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: for grabs, where I say, like the spot of where

1307
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: Burnley was kind of just occupying that real estate for

1308
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: the past half decade in the Premier League is now

1309
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 4: up for grabs in a bad way. And it could

1310
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 4: be Everden, it could be Leads, and I think Southampton

1311
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: and Wolves are also in that running too. But I'm

1312
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: with you. I was really mad when I saw this

1313
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: line come out.

1314
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 3: You know, I guess I bet it at forty forty

1315
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: three and a half last year.

1316
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well they.

1317
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: Are they that much worse.

1318
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk relegation on our I.

1319
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: Think, and this is my point, you know, I think

1320
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm up, I am next. Yeah you are, like my point,

1321
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: I'll transition this into my my final selection. My point

1322
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: is that like, if you like this under just bet

1323
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: the relegation. Yeah yeah, one, because they may go over

1324
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: this and you lose your three to one but minus

1325
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: one ten at thirty eight and a half man, right,

1326
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: that's right, that's so low, And I wish it was

1327
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: forty three and a half again. I had hammered again.

1328
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: But they weren't that bad for like the first four months.

1329
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1330
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: They're the one team where before the numbers came out,

1331
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: I had like a cell buy list and Brentford was

1332
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: on the Cell list and Southampton was on the Cell list.

1333
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: And the numbers came out and it's like, I guess

1334
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: the market knows that, like we think they might be not.

1335
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: As good, these book makers. They weren't born yesterday, no.

1336
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, so that leaves two teams. I really didn't want

1337
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: to get to this point. I thought somebody would take them.

1338
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: I thought, you know about Tottenham that yeah, I knew

1339
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: BJ would never take them unless it was better than

1340
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: the under I thought Leeboff was going to jump in

1341
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: or Alan was going to take the Spurs over. So

1342
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to stick Leebof to talk about Tottenham because

1343
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know my own thoughts on Spurs yet.

1344
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Leeds United over and a half points.

1345
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: And you know, I get it. Calvin Phillips is gone,

1346
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: Rapena is gone, and those are two really good players,

1347
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: probably the two best players. But I like the additions

1348
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 3: that they made. And I think if you draw a

1349
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: line from the Bielsa to the Marsh team, you saw

1350
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: a significant increase in the defensive quality number one, and

1351
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: so I think just improving the defense to the point

1352
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: where it's not holy crap, we suck, you know, bottom

1353
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: two in the league, which is what it was under Bielsa.

1354
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was bottom one for a

1355
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: while when everybody was injured. I think that will help them.

1356
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: They're not going to have a ton of players at

1357
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: the World Cup, and so despite the condensed schedule. I

1358
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: think having that break will enable them to get healthier,

1359
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: whereas you know, of course, you know the rest of

1360
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: the teams around them probably the same situation. But I

1361
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: think because they don't have the depth, I think that

1362
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 3: will hurt them less and they still aren't going to

1363
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: press even if it's a little bit different, and so

1364
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: I think the break helps them a little bit more

1365
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: than say like a Nottingham forest or you know who's

1366
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: right next some of the table, like a full of

1367
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: for example, yeah, Southampton, and so I think that the

1368
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: drop off from their best players and they got nothing

1369
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: from Bamford last year. I think that was the one

1370
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: thing we didn't really talk about. And we don't know

1371
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: if he's going to be healthy or not, but odds

1372
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: are he will play more than he did last year,

1373
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: and he's when he's played in the you know, he

1374
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: was excellent in the Championship and his numbers the first

1375
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: year in the prem under Bielsa were very impressive, you know,

1376
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: well over or slightly over half of the next year

1377
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: for ninety. So I think I'm buying Leeds being a

1378
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: little bit healthier. I like the Aaronson edition. I like

1379
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: the Adams edition. I don't know how many minutes you'll

1380
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: get from Adams. That's always been his biggest problem. But

1381
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: my most underrated signing of the summer and somebody I'm

1382
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: extremely excited to watch and I haven't looked at FBL,

1383
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: but I'm kind of curious on him is my guy

1384
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: Luis Sinastera from the Nord with the Nord Fine Nord.

1385
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: I think I thought it was a great signing. It

1386
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: kind of few under the radar. They got him on

1387
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: the cheap. He's really young, super explosive. I won't say

1388
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: he's Luis Diaz, but like they're kind of similar, and so,

1389
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think he's on that level, but

1390
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: I do think he's pretty good. He's and I think

1391
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: he makes a help and to replace the ball progression

1392
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: that they lose in Raphena being gone. So I'm going

1393
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: to take the leads over and that will leave mister

1394
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: Leeboff with the final team, which I did not expect

1395
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 3: to be the final team when we started this podcast.

1396
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: Neither did I, and then I saw how this was going.

1397
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 4: This bet was on my list of you know, I

1398
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 4: had like six or seven that that I wanted and

1399
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: this one was on it. So last year Spurs started

1400
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: the season five to five and one. They remember, they

1401
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 4: won their first three games and they lost to this three,

1402
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: and then they won two in a round, and they

1403
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: went winless for three and they still finished on seventy

1404
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 4: one points. So this team's better then. I think that

1405
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: they got better in the offseason obviously, and they're now

1406
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: a team that's adjusted to Antonio Conte's system. Another situation

1407
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 4: where book makers have proved to us that they weren't

1408
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: born yesterday was that Spurs fourteen to one to win

1409
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 4: the title is absurdly short, like absurdly short. But before,

1410
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 4: like you know, if bookmakers have this agreement where they

1411
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 4: all would release their lines together at like nine am

1412
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 4: this morning, almost and you just had to be the

1413
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: first one to get to the numbers, I would rush

1414
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 4: each other.

1415
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

1416
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 4: I would rush to bet the Spurs title future at

1417
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 4: the number. I would think going to bed that the

1418
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: night before that, it was like, you know, thirty five

1419
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: to one, forty one, and it wasn't Obviously, fourteen to

1420
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: one is way too short now to get involved, but

1421
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 4: I liked it over Charlison Basumba, I think you know

1422
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 4: you were talking about them under the radar signing. I

1423
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: think for our show, like we in all on show,

1424
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: like we love basumas a player, like we all do,

1425
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 4: incredible signing and can completely change and improve. He would

1426
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 4: have made any team, whether you're City or Born Myth

1427
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 4: better by leaps and bounds. And he goes to Tottenham

1428
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 4: for Charlison. Like I said, he is incredibly versatile. He

1429
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: works hard, he wins the ball, he's good in the box,

1430
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 4: He's much smarter than people give him credit for. And

1431
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: I think he's the type of guy that Antonio Knte

1432
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: will love because he just runs himself ragged every night.

1433
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: And what does he do is he provides some scoring depth.

1434
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 4: He takes some pressure off of Kane and so on,

1435
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: and then you throw.

1436
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: More and like Lucas Moore is like playing you back

1437
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 3: in preseason.

1438
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 4: You have scoring, you have scoring death. Like the Spurs

1439
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 4: tick every box except for two, which is they're not

1440
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: City and they're not Liverpool. Like that's those are the

1441
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: only two boxes that they don't tick. So I think

1442
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: the over here is it's a bet that like I said,

1443
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 4: I kind of saw how the show was going and

1444
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: nobody was going near it. Whether it's because you hate

1445
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 4: Spurs like DJ, or you're a Spurs fan where they're

1446
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: your second team like Anthony. I was like, Okay, I

1447
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: might be able to get this one at the end,

1448
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 4: and I have and I really like it. I'd like

1449
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: Spurs over seventy one and a half.

1450
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really good, right. I don't know why

1451
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: it kind of passed me by, I guess because it

1452
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: just seemed sort of right high. It's like, yeah, it

1453
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: is hi. It's high from a perspective of like they're

1454
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: not going to be on City Liverpool's level, so they're

1455
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: high for a third place team, right, Like it's high.

1456
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: You know, despite finishing on seventy one last year. They

1457
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: have the same problems that City and Liverpool have with

1458
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: everyone going to the World Cup and everything. But I

1459
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: agree with the the business is so good. I mean,

1460
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: I think the main thing that Rich Charleston does is

1461
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: just he's not just like additional scoring stuff. He's depth

1462
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: for Son and he's dept for Kane. So you know,

1463
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 2: a catastrophic injury obviously is not as good as either

1464
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: of them, but he comes in and they don't lose

1465
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: that much. They could still hit the number even with

1466
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: that scenario. They have a lot of depth in central midfield.

1467
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: They have an absurd amount of wingback depth. I don't

1468
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: even know what they're doing. They have like three wing

1469
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: backs for each side.

1470
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some selling.

1471
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's some selling coming. I still in the

1472
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: back of my head, I'm still like, where are they

1473
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: getting all this money? Are they selling son or something?

1474
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 4: You know?

1475
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: Like and who knows? Maybe that just happened.

1476
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: Good question, Allen. Maybe we should investigate that.

1477
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 3: Maybe we didn't spend any money for like two three years.

1478
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: Everybody said, oh, Spurs so cheap, don't spend money.

1479
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, spending Yeah, but I don't know.

1480
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: Also, they're gonna sell and dumb blas.

1481
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: It's the it's the NFL money, Roder Goodell, yep.

1482
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1483
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: One thing.

1484
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about Spurs, and this is purely

1485
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: just math, is that under Conte, basically, if you take

1486
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: it from November eighth on under content, they average one

1487
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: point nine to seven expected points per match. If you

1488
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: project that out for a full season, that's about seventy

1489
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: five points. So with the death that they have, I mean,

1490
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: you can definitely make an argument for the over but again,

1491
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say.

1492
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 4: That they're they're they're a team too, like if when

1493
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 4: we talk about this on on our our Mega preview pod,

1494
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 4: like they're just a team I'm gonna have circled as

1495
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,479
Speaker 4: if if they do get off to a slow start,

1496
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: like I would, I would buy back on them in

1497
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 4: the futures, because you can't you could. We could wake

1498
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: up in May and if you tell me, like of

1499
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: Spurs finished second fifteen points behind City, like I would

1500
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 4: be looking at that honestly makes some sense. Yeah, because

1501
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: if if the league does go that way where City

1502
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 4: runs away with it and Liverpool become disinterested and kind

1503
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 4: of that same narrative we were talking about, Anthony, then

1504
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 4: a team like Spurs can just pick them off and

1505
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: we could see Liverpool kind of you know doing what

1506
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 4: you said City would do, which is focus on Europe

1507
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 4: or you know, just take it and get ready for

1508
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 4: the next season. So yeah, I think I'm very bullish

1509
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: on on Spurs, just even even though the market is

1510
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: as well, Like I'm kind of right up there with them.

1511
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: Will I betting them on a game to game basis,

1512
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 4: Probably not because I think the price will probably get

1513
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 4: too high, But in terms of like where books have

1514
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: them associated with, like with their peers like Chelsea, Arsenal,

1515
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 4: I guess United, you could say, and then and then

1516
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 4: the Big two. Like I think hard to bet Spurs,

1517
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: it is, but I think they'll they'll be a good

1518
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 4: value side in that cohort right in the in the

1519
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 4: right against other big six teams. So that's how I'm

1520
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 4: kind of approaching them the season the over and backing

1521
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: them that way.

1522
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like fourteen to one is too low to

1523
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: win the league. They're not gonna win the league, but

1524
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: they're like minus one thirty to get top four, which

1525
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 3: is like not fun to tap up your money in

1526
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: the minus one thirty.

1527
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: Market for the whole season.

1528
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: So like it's it's hard with those three teams, you know,

1529
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: in those four teams in the middle league. That's yeah,

1530
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: that's where we'll see what the groups look like. Arsenal

1531
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 3: BJ Will you be betting Arsenal in the champions.

1532
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but I'll be happy to bet against Spurs

1533
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: in the Europa League knockout round.

1534
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 4: Before this devoves, let's wrap it up.

1535
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: Alan.

1536
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: Obviously, we thank you for coming on. We'll definitely have

1537
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 4: you on again throughout the season. We'll update this throughout.

1538
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: But Anthony, you know, have him hooked Premier League and

1539
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 4: he wants.

1540
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: To Michael, I think we have to say one, are

1541
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: only our two guests that we've ever had on the show?

1542
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: Or Fabrizio Allen oh English Company.

1543
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: Wow, Yes, yes.

1544
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: Every buddy, Fabrizio Overmano if you want to just by

1545
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: the way, break of those podcast is going to come

1546
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: out much later, so you'll already know it. But it

1547
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: looks like Conde's going to Barcelona.

1548
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: There you go.

1549
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: I mean they have tons of money. Yeah, and if

1550
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: you want to hear about Barcelona's transfer saga. I definitely

1551
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 4: listen to our Fabricio Vermano interview from July. Earlier in July,

1552
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 4: like around the twenty second and Anthony, before we sign off,

1553
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 4: you did want to say something.

1554
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I went on the Lawn Show.

1555
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: We talked prem future from the gambling side. He does

1556
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: a podcast focused on fantasy Premier League, which I did

1557
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 3: not know just how big that community is, but it

1558
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 3: is pretty impressive and it's something that I used to

1559
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: do but have not been that into in the last

1560
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: few years. You know, it kind of takes a back seat.

1561
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 3: Same thing with fantasy football for me like, I don't

1562
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: even really play it anymore, but I want to get

1563
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: in on it. So let's let's create a league. I'm

1564
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: going we did create a league, the Wonder Goal Fantasy

1565
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 3: Premier League Group. We're going to drop the link in

1566
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: the show notes if you want to join. We'll put

1567
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: a prize in for like the winners. At the end

1568
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: of the season. We'll have to talk to our winners.

1569
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 4: We could say it winners will get a kid of

1570
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 4: their choice.

1571
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: Look, I think I might have a Tottenham scarf around

1572
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: here that are our listeners can win, but we will.

1573
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: We will figure out exactly what the prize is going

1574
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 3: to be, but we'll talk about that on a future show.

1575
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: But the link to join is going to be in

1576
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: the show notes. Come play Fantasy prem with us. We're

1577
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 3: gonna have some fun with it. Alon, I'll shoot you

1578
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: the link as well. Yes, and if I beat you, Alan,

1579
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 3: then you're gon have to answer some questions.

1580
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: Okay, that's very fair.

1581
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: In real Before we go along, I'll just do a

1582
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 4: quick minute speel on on what you guys got going

1583
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 4: on over on the FML Yeah podcast.

1584
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: It'll be hopefully less than a minute. I mean, we

1585
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: just we pod choice a week. One of them is

1586
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: buying Patreon paywall, but for the preseason there's no paywall,

1587
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: so it's just like NonStop content like July and August.

1588
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean specifically, July is just like preseason previews, fire

1589
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: sun chats. You know, we had Anthony on, we had

1590
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: we bring on specialists, team specialists, other really good FBL managers,

1591
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: way better than me or my co host Walsh. But

1592
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's a fun time. We shoot the ship.

1593
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 2: It's not safe for work, but you know, we get

1594
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 2: it done. We talk about everything. We were very opinionated.

1595
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, get in there. FMLFL easy to remember.

1596
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 4: And this has been the Wondergo podcast featuring our special

1597
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 4: guest along Shapiro of the FML FBL podcast. We have

1598
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 4: a ton of preseason content. So Premier League season starts Friday,

1599
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: August fifth. We will have our regular weekend preview podcast

1600
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: for that weekend coming up as well. We'll talk about

1601
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 4: some European leagues on a separate preview podcast. And I

1602
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 4: just can't believe it's back already again. The stranger saw

1603
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 4: season in all Sports. I said, really because it at

1604
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 4: the same time feels endless. So for Anthony Dubundo bija

1605
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 4: knyahamp and I launch Apiro. I'm like leave off and

1606
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 4: we will see you next time.