WEBVTT - Starring KayCee Stroh as Martha Cox in “High School Musical” 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.400 Welcome back everybody to this Park Hopper episode of Magical 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.480 Rewind and we are pretty excited because we're all in 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.200 this together. We know that we've known that now from 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.800 the beginning. We know that doubly now because, of course 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.960 we are here to cover the best sequel in the 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.800 history of the world, My Date with the President's Daughter 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.400 to Halle's Revenge. No, I'm kidding, that is not not 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.000 what it is at all. We are here to talk 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.720 to somebody who is part of the biggest franchise I 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.519 mean arguably the biggest well the biggest movie anyway on 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.159 the channel so far to date. Geez, I know, I 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.440 mean just a Juggernaut Monster House. Of course, we are 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.200 talking about High School Musical two, which we've already covered. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.320 It is twice the singing and dancing, so man, I 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.680 was twice as happy because everybody knows how much I love. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.240 That bore my thing. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.040 Everybody knows they're my jam. That's just when people randomly 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.000 break into song that there's no possible way they could 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.000 know how to the lyrics of the dance I'm in. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.520 But yes, of course this is the one. This is 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.480 the one. Though This and Cheetah Girls are really starting 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.319 to change my mind. But then we got into zombies, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.199 and then of course I was wearing the zombie shirt 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.679 and dressing as for it. We're all good, but there's 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.200 no more ado to happen here because somebody pretty fabulous 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.240 is joining us today, So can you please help us 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.760 welcome cast member from one and two. I don't know. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.320 Maybe she's in three. I have no idea because I 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.800 haven't seen it yet. I don't know. I don't. Part 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.040 of me wants to know, part of me doesn't want 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.720 to know, So I have no idea. You know already, 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.399 don't you, and you're not gonna tell me anything. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.520 I don't actually know. I knew she was in both 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.400 of them, but I'm not quite sure about three because 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.600 I don't I have never seen three. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.360 She's right, she's also like firmly in your wheelhouse of 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:55.160 oh Man. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.720 She known so much for obviously her role in this, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.400 but what she's doing now. She is on TikTok on Instagram. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.840 I mean, this girl does not stop dancing. I love it. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.880 I'm here for it, and I cannot wait to do 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.320 this interview. It's going to be such a good one. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.520 That is so much fun, So please everyone help us. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:25.720 Welcome Casey Strow. Hello, Hello, thank you so much for 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:26.799 joining us. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.240 Yes, no, thank you for having me. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.560 We are just so excited to talk to you because 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.000 we just recapped the phenomenon that is High School Musical two. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.520 No joke. I am a recent transfer to East High 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.959 I had never seen it before. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.480 Oh, welcome to the families. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.040 So I know we're all in this together, but I 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.799 had it took it took a while to get there 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.800 for me. So just thank you for joining us to 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.160 talk to us about how this juggernaut came to be. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.920 This is absolutely incredible. I think we just start with 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.799 the basic how did you first hear about school Musical one? 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.280 We'll get to two, but we got to start at 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.919 the beginning, right, How did you hear about this? How 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.280 did you get the role? What did you have to 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.920 do to get the role? And your tree looks gorgeous? 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.600 Just for the record, Oh, thank you, thank you. I 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.120 know I love all holidays. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.640 I have a crazy obsession with decorating, so thank you 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:20.440 for noticing. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:21.280 I appreciate that. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.640 But yes, my story is really a crazy one and 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.680 very very unique. I grew up in the dance world 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.960 as a dancer from a really young age. I started 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.560 dancing at like age two because my big sisters were 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.880 at the dance studio all the time. So yeah, I 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.520 grew up in the competitive dance world, hardcore, and then 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.320 about like fourth grade, I tried out for Dorothy and 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.160 the Wizard of Oz and that was the first time 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:48.720 that I. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.760 Ever discovered that you could act, dancing and dance at 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.680 the same time. And it was like my life's mission. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.960 So that's like where it started for me. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.480 And then I ran in I was like eighteen nineteen 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.640 at the time, and I ran into an old choreographer, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.280 the wonderful Bonnie Story, who had done a piece at 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.080 my dance studio, and she said, you know, I've been 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:20.120 hired to do this little Disney project. It's untitled, but 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.880 they did mention that they wanted, you know, people to 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.760 audition of all shapes and sizes and colors and everything 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:30.440 to be backup dancers. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.960 And that's so rare as you can imagine growing up, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.839 you know, a thicker girl, a plus sized girl in 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.240 the dance industry. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.480 It was not always welcoming, you know, and even in 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.200 theater it roles were very limited. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.920 And so at the time I was teaching dance. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.279 I was teaching dances like a few different studios around 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.520 Salt Lake Valley, and. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.320 I just had a feeling. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.360 I was like what if, Like what if this could 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.800 finally be the way that I that I break in. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.000 And I took my students to the audition to get 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.279 them like a real true experience, and I was like, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.719 I mean, I think I I think I look young enough. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.080 I'm going to give it a shot. So I took 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.560 my headshot and my resume and I walked in and 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:20.159 I was one of five hundred there that. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.880 Day to audition just to be backup dancers. Just wow. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.200 So it was just like an open call that they 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.320 had for anyone that wanted to come out, just an 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:32.280 open call. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.480 I was literally the last group to go, and I 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:42.279 had like this life changing moment. After I auditioned, Kenny 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.560 Ortega stopped the music and he walked over to me 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.640 and he grabbed my hand and he said, I love you. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:56.400 You're different, and I was it, like that was it. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.159 And then he was like do you sing? 0:05:58.640 --> 0:05:59.800 Do you act? 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.720 Like yeah, yeah, I look at my resume here, I 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.839 did all this local this local work in theater, you know, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.279 And he was like I have looked all over for 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:10.920 our Martha. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.960 We We've audished in LA, We've audished in New York. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.919 And I just didn't feel like we founder and I 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:21.240 think you were hiding here in little Utah. And so yeah, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.159 that is how I ended up auditioning for the part. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.839 And they brought me into casting. They they literally handed 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.480 me script. I had like four minutes with. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:32.800 It, Oh my gosh. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.600 And then and then they put me on tape and 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.039 so the original like pop and lock and jam and. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.400 Break was just me like ad libbat oh wow, Like 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.240 I didn't know what movement they wanted. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.040 And then they handed me the song like a little 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:53.240 CD player. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.400 I got to listen to it for like five minutes 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.039 and they're like, all right, we're gonna record it and 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:57.840 send it to Disney. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:58.560 Oh my gosh. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.440 I was like, oh my god, wow, my life. So yeah, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.840 I was like a baptism by this. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.520 All in one day. You came into Okay, okay. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.080 So I did. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.280 Yeah, callback was at least, you know, I had some time. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.520 In fact, it was almost painful. I had too much time. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.400 It was like two weeks and I was like, why did. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:18.560 They calling back? 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.040 I was like, why did I might have this like 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.320 life altering moment of like, yeah, I'm different for a 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.680 reason and it was all meant to be and then 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.640 like cricket, cricket. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.160 Yeah, welcome industry, Yeah exactly. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.800 So it's super painful. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.520 But then yeah, I ended up being the very last 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.800 person cast because of it, and I was like three 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.680 days everything was like locked and loaded and signed, and 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.520 then I was on set after like after that. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.560 So this was the dream for you. I mean, this 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.600 was something that you had on vision boards. You like, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.040 you thought about it, you talked about it with your friends, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.960 everyone at your studio, that kind of idea. You've seen 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.760 it in movies, you know, go into that perfect audition 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.880 and damn you like you lived in. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:08.760 Them. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.280 Was like grab a pillow and scream at a pillow moments. Man, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.080 I just know how. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.960 It would like happen for me living in Utah, and 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.160 I'm very like family. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.520 Oriented, and I well, yeah, how am I gonna? 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:22.640 Like? 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.480 Am I the person that's brave enough to pack up 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.960 my crap and move to l A. I was always 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.960 so scared of that. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.880 And then it was we'll come to you. Don't worry 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.320 about it, We'll come to you. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.480 What's amazing is there's just a huge industry of dance 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.480 out in Utah. There really was, and it was untapped, yes, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.320 for years, until I feel like it was like, so 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.280 you think you could dance? And there just started becoming 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.840 so many, so many amazing everything. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.720 Disney we noticed this shot in Utah. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.920 Yeah, but they had not really done a lot of 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.520 dance stuff in Utah. Okay, high school musical, I mean 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.920 between high school musical and like I said, so you 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.160 think you can dance if you look at so many 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.120 of the top people that end up even going from 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.040 that to dancing with the stars and being the pro. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.839 Dancers, the Julianne Julianne, Derek Huff. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 Whitney, I mean, there's Jennie. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.559 You're saying all these names I've never heard. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.840 It's like, you know, okay with the Stars bros. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.280 But ye will, it's a whole nother world. It is 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.880 entertainment business. And then there's the entertainment business of dancers 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:42.240 as well. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.000 And it's just yeah, Utah really has put themselves on 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:46.719 the map. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.959 Asing these dancing and performing machines. And I always love 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.320 it when we surprise people and it's like, you know, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:54.640 Derek Huff can sing. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.480 Julianne can sing like Casey Stars, not just a dancer 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.839 like I act and sing. And I think that's really 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.440 really fun and was really unheard of. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.960 I feel like before that's like dancers just stay in 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.200 the dance lane. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.560 Right, Yeah, not a lot of triple threats, not a 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:09.280 lot of kind. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.000 Well, that's also I think a lot of that has 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.920 to do with the entire industry changing too, thankfully, because 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.480 even back in the day, it was if you're a 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.440 television actor, you're a television actor. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:17.839 Yes. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.400 If you're in movies, you do movies. If you're a dancer, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:25.200 you do dancer yees? Commercial yeah yeah, commercial commercial. Now 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.040 it's they nobody wants to hire nine different people to 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.880 do one thing, so they go, how what can you do? 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.120 Can you do work? Oh? You can do everything? Awesome, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.400 We're gonna do with that right. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.000 On the channel. Had you been a dcom fan before 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.160 you auditioned for this, was this where you would like 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.760 just a lover of that like Friday night d coom situation. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.840 So that's what's really funny for me is I wasn't 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.440 because I literally like threw my. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:54.040 Full life into like acting and seeing and dancing. You guys. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.440 Every day after school, I went straight from school to 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.319 like the studio or to acting. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.880 And I was there till like nine o'clock at night. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:02.520 Wow. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.040 And so I remember when it came out and I 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.920 was like thrust into this Disney Channel world. I remember 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.000 watching it for the first time and being like, oh wow, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.280 that's that's really wholesome and cheesy. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.440 I'm wonderful. I wonder if I'll ever work again. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.200 That's so true, that's funny. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.480 But but then it like was this beautiful world that 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.720 was unlocked to me. And I went and I watched 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.720 like Halloween Town and I watched like all these. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.679 Like classic you know, Disney Channel movies. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.560 I'm like, what, I was sleeping on all of that, right, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.480 and you had all this joy and she's in my life. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.160 What is when you're stuck in your the world? I'm 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.599 starting to notice, especially the entertainment industry, it's all microworlds. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.319 So when you're stuck in your own microworld, whether it's 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.840 dance or sitcom, whatever it is, you don't often see 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.000 what's going on in some of the other little microworlds 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.200 around you. And then when you jump ship into a 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.120 new one, it's it just opens its own. We're doing 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.040 that now with these dcoms where I'm like, look, a 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.880 little kid can turn into a mermaid. I didn't know that. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.600 That's yeah, it's brilliant. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.360 Wow. So when did you get a chance to be 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.199 able to meet the rest of your cast then? Was 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.240 it just at the rehearsals or were you Were you 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.080 ever flown to la to do anything prior to the 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.359 shooting of the film. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.080 I was not, No, nothing, nothing like that. And so 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.120 it was like, literally i walk on set and I'm like, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.000 with all of these child actors who have been doing 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.720 this since they came out of the womb, and I'm nineteen, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.480 and although I had had tons of experience, like with 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.240 stage and theater and stuff like that, you know, when 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.000 a camera's in your face, it's a whole different world. Yeah, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.319 and yeah, I'm nineteen and like Zachamanessa are like fifteen, 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:55.200 and they're crushing it. I'm like, just follow everybody's lead, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:00.400 don't panic, don't be faking it to make it baby, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:00.680 that's what. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.720 What was the first scene that you filmed? Was it 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:05.880 the cafeteria scene? 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:06.360 Yes? 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:06.920 Was that the. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.800 Very big, huge dance numbers? The first thing you did 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.920 Welcome to the Show kid, Yeah, exactly. That was like 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:15.160 day one. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.400 So once again a lot of things for me that 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.160 you know, the fans love and are so iconic. We're 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.840 actually in the moment improv things and it was like 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.480 come up with your own choreography on the table, Casey, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.120 like just throw it out. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.439 There, you know. Uh yeah, and then I'm like singing 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.680 live and I'm miked. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.040 In front of all these in front of all these 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.160 new people. So yeah, pressure was like really on, it 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:40.720 was really hot. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.240 Well, you're singing, so you're actually singing live as you're 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.400 doing all the dancing, You're you're you're not singing to 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.679 a track. You're actually singing, you're not lip syncing. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.600 So we are. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.679 We were singing to a track, but Kenny also likes 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.679 to just sing why you're. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.719 Doing it and live and everything, So yeah, I know 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.520 it was it was really great. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.640 And that was supposed to be it for my character Martha, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.320 like it was just that was her moment, that was it, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.600 and then I'm gonna I'm gonna age myself right now. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:17.280 They sent in the dailies, they fed him, yes, yes, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:18.600 so they so. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.200 They send in the dailies and Disney was like, oh 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.200 my goodness, we love her. We wish we would have 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.680 booked her sooner, and that she was throughout the show more. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.360 And so after we wrapped on that scene, I got 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.920 a phone call a little bit later and they were like, Hey, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.120 there's this dance that they. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.920 Do at the end called raw This Together. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.360 If I just send you Bonnie's story like doing it, 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.000 can you learn the dance quick and show up tomorrow 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.280 and we're gonna throw you in the finale. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.360 And I'm like, what. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.040 Take Yeah, tell her what time. I'll be an hour early. Guys, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:55.760 I'll be there. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:03.000 I will preport that man nice. So yeah, so and 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.200 and Kenny was so kind to me. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.880 He always was very strategic with his placement and he 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.720 always just loved. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.720 That I was a strong dancer. And he was like, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.840 I know, if I put her like right by Zach 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.360 and Vanessa or like right by them, like she'll be 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.400 fine right and I won't have to worry about her 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:25.440 bess at the shop. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.880 Okay, I got so you so we I mean, we've 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:34.160 we all love Kenny. He's just a legend. And obviously 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.880 you being a dancer, and you had to have known 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.120 about this icon prior to even seeing him at this 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.320 at this audition, which I'm sure made it that much 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.080 more nerve racking, But what was it like for you 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.240 on set with him? 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.040 So actually, that's a that's a story. That's a story, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.520 so Brita right there, that's his story in itself. So 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.720 I get there. Nobody's told me it's Kenny Artega. Oh no, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.800 at that audition, I had no idea. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.520 Oh my god, no idea. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.960 So I am like trying to keep myself calm. I'm like, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:05.880 you got this. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.880 You've done ten bazillion dance auditions in your life. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:09.480 You're fine. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.880 And some little twerp looks over at me and is like, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.280 I can't believe we're gonna dance for the man who 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.400 did Newsies, And I was like. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:27.160 My Christian Bale, where's Christian? 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.800 My soul up my body, my soul up my body? 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.280 And then she's like. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.000 Yeah, and hocus Pocus and like everything, and I was like, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.200 are you freaking kidding me? These are the shows like 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:40.640 I grew up on dreaming of reviving musicals and you 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.920 just tell me that, and I've gotta walk in like 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:44.360 right now to this guy. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.880 I was like, I could have gone a lifetime without 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:47.440 knowing that in. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:53.400 Man, that person was trying to psych you out, casey right, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:55.240 just that little. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:16:59.720 I know. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.359 But yeah, so then of course knowing that now after 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.600 the audition to answer your question, Yeah, like walking in 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.359 on set, like the stakes were so high for me, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.280 and it was just like all my hard work. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.679 Since I was two years old, and all these dreams, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.080 everything I had wanted so bad. It was like, here's 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.560 your one shot girl. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.359 Like shine, you gotta shine. And I was just so grateful. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:33.240 I'm so blessed that Kenny loved it, Disney loved it, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.800 and then even more shockingly, after it came out, the. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:42.960 Fans loved my character. And that's really who got me back. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.720 That's who got me back in high school. Usical two 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:46.520 and three. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.280 And so you are in three. I haven't seen it yet. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.080 I'm going in order. I haven't seen it. Okay, you 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.080 are in three, aren't good? I said that to Sabrie. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.200 I'm like she had three. She's like, I'm not saying anything. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.920 I was like, okay, okay, you'll have to watch will, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.359 but I will tell you that get even better as 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:02.800 they go. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:04.640 Two. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.879 Yeah, we saw that with number two. I love it. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.359 I love that they are developing your stories as you go, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.040 which is one of the things I love about Kenny's 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.880 work is he really goes into your character development and 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.320 where you would in this in a second movie, where 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.159 you would be now you know since time is passed. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.120 Well, it's part of it. They've really made a team. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.240 There's like part of a team now and there's six 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.240 or seven members of the team. You're part of the team, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.760 and it's just that's what you see. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.760 See even a lot of the dancers. I mean, like 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.199 obviously Chucky is his right hand man assistant choreographer, but 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.240 like Chucky seemed like he seems like his own character. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.560 He never talks, but he's in it. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.840 Yes, who's which one's Chucky? 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.560 Chucky was the other choreographer. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.119 Yeah, he's another choreographer that has worked with Kenny forever. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.160 He also worked on Chetah Girls too with us. He 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.359 helps choreograph and place. But in high school musical, he's 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.520 in it, and he's in gets you ahead in the game. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.080 He's in it all the big Okay, So if you 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.240 saw a picture of Checky and we're trying to get Chucky, 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.680 we want to do an interview with CHECKI. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.320 For sure, I'll get you Chucky gets Chucky, get us 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.520 Chucky tonight. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.399 Yes, we want to do it, just because he's really 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.080 essentially a huge part of the creative you know, team 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.080 and the creative you know, momentum of the movie. But 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.840 he's actually to me, I feel like Chuckie's his own character, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.560 just doesn't have a name or an he doesn't talk, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.680 but he's in every major It's amazing. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:31.679 It's so true. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.600 And it's amazing that the fans like fell in love 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.800 with you, didn't like yeah, with Chucky, with like the 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.640 principal dancers, they all have like these backstories of who 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.320 they think those characters are. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.600 It's incredible. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.280 It is such a cool thing. 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.040 Now I have a technical question. Now, yes, when you 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.000 started the interview, so you were dancing since you were two, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.920 and then you said something about competitive dancing. Were you 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.520 competitive dancing at that age? 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.920 I did my first competition at age. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.000 Two two years ago. Okay, well that's I. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.200 Walked down a very special moment in a production. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.639 Number where I put my hands on my head and 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.200 I shook my little tish. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:25.359 And okay, so the history I'm going to save raise 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:26.000 the dancer. 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.160 So how different since this was the first time you said, 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.919 they put a camera in your face, and it's so different. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.800 How different is dancing in something like a competition or 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.119 a studio or whatever, and then dancing with cameras in 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.840 your face? I mean, are you doing the entire dance? 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.000 Are you just doing sections of the dance so they 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.880 can film it? I mean, how different is that? 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.840 Yeah, it's a very very different process, and especially because 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.200 as a performer live you're always taught to keep your 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.200 eyes on the audience or connect with. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:54.440 The judges and things. 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.399 Like that, and then you have a camera right in 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.359 your face and don't look at it. Look at that camera. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:02.240 I'm pretty it's right here in front of your face 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.679 with a giant X on it. Do not look at it. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.200 It's just gonna slide right across her face. But God forbid, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.680 don't look, oh man. So that's a big part of it. 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.320 And then with Kenny, I think the reason why he 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.520 is such a creative genius is he's very passionate and 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:25.639 he's a perfectionist. So with every dance scene, it took 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.520 ten million takes to get. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:29.719 The one that he loved. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.240 And yes, we would do it in chunks, but many 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.600 times he wanted to get like the one shot, you know, 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.320 or a long shot, And so we were doing those 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.520 dances over and over. There was a lot of blood, 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.000 sweat and tears, and let's just want. 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.200 To say, how does your body hold up for something 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.399 like this over and over and over again? 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.920 Will will we saw? Well, you've got to remember too, 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:55.120 you're like talking, I mean anywhere from like fourteen fifteen 0:21:55.240 --> 0:22:00.240 to twenty two probably are the dancers. They're in their prime. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.800 I mean they are so condish to do that over 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.680 and over again. And let me tell you, Kenny Ortega 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.120 walks on set, You're doing nothing but full out. You 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.840 are going to the night every time that music starts 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:16.800 and finishing. 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:21.280 It speaking truth and she knows that you. 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:25.120 Even think about marking a second of those eight counts. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.640 So it's and you're like, that's the dream. Like you've 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.760 been wanting to do this in front of someone like 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.959 Kenny Ortega forever and so you're just stoked. Your body's 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.200 just like on complete adrenaline. Like, yeah, you're tired later, 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:40.760 but in the moment you are. 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.400 Yes, Like it's like if all you have for three months, 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:49.200 you can die after, yes, exactly over dead after, but 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.080 by you're going to push through for. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.800 This, be honest in this industry because that might be 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:54.560 all you got. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:59.680 That's right, Yeah, you never you do, so do it right, 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.439 geez Amen's sister Amen. 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.280 Okay, So the first the first movie comes out. It's 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.199 obviously nobody expected because we've talked to, you know, other 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.679 people involvement project. Nobody expected. How could you what it 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.160 was going to become? How does your life change from 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.760 pre high school musical to post high school musical. 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.919 It was pretty wild. It came out, and then I 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.399 was still just like teaching dance in the basement of 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.040 the mall and like all these different dance studios. 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.479 And it was about a week later I received a 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.720 call from Ashley Tisdale's manager, Bill Perlman, and he was like, Hey, 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.560 I saw you on set and I watched you do 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.080 your stick to the status quo, and I really think 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.200 there's something special there. I think you're You're really unique. 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.919 I don't have anyone like you that I represent, And 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:52.919 it like, is this really your dream? And I'm like, 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.680 oh yeah, since I was like a baby, like this 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.560 is my dream. And he's like, well, grab your parents 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.000 obviously come out to Beverly Hills and meet me and. 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.879 Like see if you you know, if this is a 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.000 good fit. I mean I'm like, oh my gosh, like 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.080 a manager. And it was truly one of the funniest 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.679 stories of my life. Like my mom and my sister 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.080 actually came with. We packed up our car. It was 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.720 like the Clampets heading the Beverly Hills. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.879 We like, we spent all this money to get a 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.080 really nice hotel because we're like, oh, we were never 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:28.920 going to do this again, like what if this never 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.159 happens again? And little did I know, I roll up 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.720 to this hotel. I'm like in my county's like road trip, 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.920 you know, and we're like, hey, where do we park. 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:37.560 They're like it's. 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:43.840 Valet, only we've stopped at like Walmart to get groceries 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.439 to save money on the trip. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:51.720 They're carrying out like yeah, that so much. That's awesome. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.800 I mean that that is yeah, but it was such 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.000 a cool experience. I met with. 0:24:56.040 --> 0:25:00.720 Bill and I'm literally in his living room, you know, 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.960 talking about the logistics of this, and he gets a 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.359 phone call from one of his other clients and he's like. 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.639 You know why I have you on the phone. Do 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.040 you remember that girl in high school musical who like 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.120 got up on the table and she popped and locked 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:14.960 and stuff. She's like, oh my gosh, I loved her. 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.000 She was like one of my favorites. She's like, well, 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.040 she's in my living room right now, and I think 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.960 I'm going to represent her, Like do you have any 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.040 interest in like looking at her, like with your agency 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.880 and stuff like that, and she's like, yeah, tell her 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:28.760 to come on down. 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.440 And it was like, within like two days of being 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.800 in La, like I had like a manager and an agent. 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.400 This is after just walking into a dance audition where 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.280 they said we're going to make the part bigger because 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:46.840 so essentially you've just been killing the industry from the seconds. 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.040 Silent Killer, A silent killer from Utah just. 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.600 Come and slain a manager agent. Then I was at 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.720 my agency and they just handed me a bucket full 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.040 of cash. I know. 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.320 It really was like he gave us a new car 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:00.960 to drive home. 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:04.280 It's so great. 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.879 I wish, I wish, but isn't it wild? Like so 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.000 then it's hard when people are like, oh, I want 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:11.879 your advice on how to get do the industry. And 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:13.000 I was like, well. 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.720 Be and God smiled upon me. 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.120 So like sorry, I don't know how to explain it. 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.240 So but then, like you know, you know, the industry. 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.879 The hard knocks came after that, when I like shocked. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.440 Up and I moved down and everything. 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.040 But I was really blessed and being part of the 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.240 Disney family already, I was able, like to book a 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.040 recurring role on the Sweet Life of Zack and Cody 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.520 and get some more experience on said and things like. 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.760 The buddy work with Ashley. That's all yeah, okay. 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.280 So yeah, I was just very very blessed. 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.480 But then like it was really funny when they called 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.720 me back for High School Musical too, because then now 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.720 I'm living in LA I've got Thereat Life of Zack 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.040 and Cody, and I got totally robbed blind. 0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.160 I had no representation on the first film, like. 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.399 I think I made like a couple grand you know, 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.359 and then I'm like, oh, you'd like me. 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:07.680 For High School Musical two? 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.600 Would you please speak to my manager and my agent? 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.760 Thank you very much, Thank. 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.040 You for making me. Did you're going to charge you 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:16.640 a lot more? 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:17.840 Now? Yeah? 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.320 So this is the thing because back then, you guys 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.960 didn't do a two movie deal, like you know, the 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.600 The Descendants. I think zombies. 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:28.680 Well, it's because no one knew what High School Musical 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.200 was going to be. They would have signed these kids 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.800 until twenty ninety two if they had known what it 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:33.240 was going to be. 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.959 The damn what an idea that they would end up 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.520 doing a sequel. They just didn't know. But there was 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:39.720 talks about it. 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.240 Oh really before it even started. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:46.560 Yeah, because again remember like the timeline goes Cheetah Girls 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.760 one while we were doing Cheatah Girls too, was when 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.119 the first one was premiering and they were already talking 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.679 about a second one. Oh okay, isn't it wild to 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:59.320 think now? Like Descendants Zombies, like they're when they're getting hired, 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:03.359 they're doing without being known, two movie deals, and it's like, 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.240 what do you think about? 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.920 That's normal. I mean when I started Boy Mets World, 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.199 I had to sign a seven year contract. So it 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.800 was oh, of course, of course that's what we had 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.919 to sign for seven years before we ever entered the 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.199 final audition. You were signed and the contract is done 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.880 before you can audition, and you had to sign essentially 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:28.080 for the entire series, god willing. So these that's standards. Yeah, 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.800 that's it's six with an option for seven that's standard. Yeah, no, 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.720 that's a total scom. 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.840 Deal and you can't do it. You guys weren't able 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.360 to renegotiate anything. 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.760 No. I mean it's Hollywood, so you can renegotiate all 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.040 the time. But they can always say we're gonna hold 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.240 this to you. I hold you to this. But if 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.200 the show takes off and does something, then hey, I 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.560 want a little more. I want this, I want that. 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.520 They're usually pretty cool with that, but you're not going anywhere. 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:54.600 You're You're you're signed. So I mean the idea when 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.720 I hear two movies, I'm like, that's fourteen weeks or 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.440 whatever shooting is. We signed for seven years? 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.440 Will you were iron class? 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:03.840 Yeah? 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:05.520 You were stuck with those. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.000 They were like, do you give this the remainder of 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.160 your childhood and into your twenties. 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.640 Thank god I became best friends with the people on 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.720 that show. Or that really would have sucked. 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.120 Because it's like a total nightmare. 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.440 Yes, your strat's what happens. You could be strapped to 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.239 people for years you don't really like. Okay, so then 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.560 High School Musical one comes out, it is what it is. 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.400 They now call you to do High School Musical two. 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.400 What are the differences between the productions that you noticed 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.120 from the small movie that no one knew about to now, okay, 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.080 we know what this is going to be. What was 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.640 shooting the second one, like is in comparison to the first. 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.040 Yeah, you know, it was really fun because I feel 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.440 like we knew, like budget was going up, so we 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:47.160 could go. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.280 A little bit more all out with our production and 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.800 we had longer rehearsal times and things like that, where 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.280 they were able to pay us for that rehearsal time, 0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.280 where before I felt like it was like, let's just 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:01.400 do some rehearsals and wing this. 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:02.160 Yeah. 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.040 God, So it was really nice. 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.520 We were able to be a lot more prepared and 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.160 costumes were more you know, thought out, and of course, 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.080 like Sabrina said, with Kenny involved, like the arc in 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.560 our characters, it is so fun. And when I look 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.240 at the arc from the first to the third, it 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:26.160 was almost like Kenny like knew what my message to 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.640 the world, what I wanted to give to the world, 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.760 and he was so kind and he like wove it 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.520 in too, like Martha's story. So that was a big 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.400 part for me too, where it's like I had like 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:39.920 a few lines in the first one, and then the 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.280 second I was like one. 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:41.640 Of the team. 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.400 I was one of the crew. I was talking about 0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.800 you know, summer jobs and. 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:51.000 Things like that. So very very big difference for me, 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.360 and I feel like High School Musical two was the 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.160 closest that I've ever been like with the cast, I 0:30:58.160 --> 0:30:59.720 feel like that's when we really. 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.000 Like to ask, how did you guys stay in touch 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:03.600 with each other? 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:03.840 Like? 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.600 Was there even group chats back then? 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.520 Like it was it was everyone sitting in a room 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.520 and chatting sidekicks? 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.000 Did you guys all have sidekicks? 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.280 Say you had the little messaging table reads? 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.480 Okay, right, sorry, I'm kidding. 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:19.200 No, you are right. 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.880 That actually brought back like flashbacks for me because I 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:26.479 remember like Ashley and Vanessa having sidekicks sidekicks and being like, whoa, 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.880 those are the coolest things I have ever seen in 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.880 my life. I don't even know where you get one 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:31.400 of those. 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:33.640 But tea mobile. 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.200 Team mobile baby. I feel an ad coming on. 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.720 So, I mean Zach and Vanessa at this point too, 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.000 were kind of like the the giants. Yeah, not only that, 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.960 but the tabloids were kind of home after them a 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.080 little bit. And I mean this was been a whole 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.840 different kind of set than the first one. 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.080 Right, Oh, yes, we had we had a love affair 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:57.800 going on, and. 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:07.160 Sometimes we'd have some arguments and it was just normal drama, 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:11.080 you know. But it was like watching the soap opera. 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.000 It was really great. 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:15.120 No, they were. 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.680 They were very sweet and good and very professional. But yeah, 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:24.480 everything was just so different, and relationships had formed, and 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.840 there were crushes and dating and all sorts of things, 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.400 and lots of different people and dancers mixing with main 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:37.280 cast y'all. It was it was gonna it was everyone 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:38.200 was everybody an. 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.240 Adult by this point, everybody over eighteen is No one's 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.160 doing school or any of that kind of Oh no, no, 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.400 they still under age, okay, yeah, yeah. 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.400 And like you said, and the first one they were 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.360 like what fifteen ish? Yeah, and your guys just turn around, 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.520 especially with like Hollywood standards that to the second movie? 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.000 How quick was that? Wasn't there not a very big 0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:59.320 time gap between finish? 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:04.240 There wasn't, And yeah it was I can't remember exact years. 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.160 It's all a blurk I but but yeah, no, it wasn't. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.320 Like a very long two year situation in between. No, 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.360 because they look I mean, the only thing that looks 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:19.400 different to me is Vanessa's hair is shorter. Other than that, 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.120 she looks exactly the same. 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.440 Teenagers. You've got to shoot as fast because you guys, know, 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.440 you can't shoot five years later and say you're still 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:29.080 in high school. 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.160 There was definitely a bigger gap between High School Musical 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.040 two and the third one, right, and that had a 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.240 lot to do with them. A lot of it it 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.880 was contracts, because I remember hearing being in the channel 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:47.240 and going and there was so much controversy over new 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.680 contracts for the third one. There was times where some 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.240 of the cast members didn't want to do it. Really, 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.080 they weren't sure right and they were yeah, like I'll 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.040 only do it if it's this or that and whatever. 0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.320 Yes, yeah, and only if I get so many songs 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:00.760 and only if I do this right. 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.360 Like, there was like a lot of logistics. 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.560 Going on, and rightfully so, because at that point, you 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.240 guys were all giants. I mean, you guys were all huge. 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:14.239 Yes, this was now a well oiled machine, and and 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.440 the fans wanted us back, and Disney wanted us. 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.120 Back, and so yeah, everyone was you know right in 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:20.680 their moment. 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.480 Yeah, it's the driver's seat. I mean, that's the way 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.040 it is. And we've we've said this before. We could 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.000 all say this, and I don't think this we're talking 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.680 out of school at all. Working for Disney or the 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.279 Channel or just Disney in general is a wonderful thing there, absolutely, 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.839 it's it is like a family. They do take care 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.680 of you. You get to do some things you'd never 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.480 get a chance to do. But they're very frugal. That's 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.200 the way they're gonna pinch. They're gonna scream a cord 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.360 or you know, pinch a quarter until the eagle screams 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.600 as they say. They're just that's what they're gonna do. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.400 That's what Disney has always been about. And it is 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.200 a bit of smoke and mirrors because you're at Disneyland 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:58.680 and Disney World and you don't have to wait in 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.759 line and it's the coolest thing the world. And then 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.200 they don't pay you for your movie. 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.280 So yeah, exactly, part of the parade and your name's 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.600 on the back of the car and you're waving to 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.000 fans and all these things, and then yeah, will you 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:11.840 said it perfectly. 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.600 It's like I always was like, well, I've got the same, 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:15.719 but not really the. 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.920 Fourth Yeah, that's the which again it's as when you're 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.440 a young actor, it's you. You are. You can be 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.759 dazzled by the lights, which is not the worst thing 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.719 in the world, because they are a ton of fun 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:26.359 to work with. 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.480 They are they are amazing, and they've started so many 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.399 incredible careers and it's like, I will always forever be. 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.160 Grateful, you know, to them, as I know we all 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.799 we all are so. But yeah, it's definitely something that 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:45.040 it's not everyone from the outside understands. So like, oh, 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.880 I assume you live in a. 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.400 Multimillion dollar mansion and I'm like, I bought a house 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.560 that's fifteen hundred square feet in California. 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.640 That's the way. When do you take your golden jet 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.960 to your other home in Paris? Like Nope, nope, not 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:00.760 how that works. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.560 I know you got all I guess one hundred percent 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.640 of you guys that the cast wasn't like over eighteen, 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.240 But we did hear about some of those real life 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:16.080 pool parties and those one am dinners at Denny's, Like, 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:16.880 can you tell me. 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.160 A little bit of dinners? 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.000 Oh? 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.480 That like, oh the nostalgia for me? 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:27.680 Oh yeah, so we really would like, oh, it was 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.720 so great you guys not filming. That was so special 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.120 because we would like, after you've been filming all day, 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.279 we're exhausted, but we're hungry, and the only place in 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.000 Saint George, Utah is Denny's. 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.360 It's open, so we'd sneak off to Denny's. 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.000 And you'd always have those people that were just like 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.000 like mouth drop and like the whole cast of high 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.919 school Musical Oason, like you have misteak and eggs please. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:55.640 Well, they're expecting they're not going to be able to 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.120 finish their meal because you're all going to break into 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.840 dances and push the plates off the table and come on, 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.719 like no, wait, come on, don't do that. 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:05.399 Don't do that. 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.160 Man, isn't that where what we do everywhere we are? 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.840 Don't exact? Wasn't that your high school? 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.600 It was much more smoking cigarettes in the bathroom in 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.359 mine than in high school musical, that's for ship. 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.200 Was there any kind of like pressure, well, you guys, 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.000 I mean it sounds like you guys it was just 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.680 like kind of a long reunion for all of you 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.280 to be able to be together and keep developing your friendships. 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.719 But was there like a sense of pressure like high 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.799 school musical was so mega on that second movie. Did 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.399 it feel like I mean, the stakes are. 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:49.000 High, absolutely, And I think we felt that the most, 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.160 Like in rehearsals, Okay, we were like learning the dances 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.759 and everything, and I remember like Zach wicking over at 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:55.640 me at one point and he's. 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.080 Like, oh, dear, these dances are a little harder. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.480 Yeah. I did notice that it did seem like the 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:04.640 dances were a lot more. 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.560 Yeah, the dances were harder. 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:07.480 Yeah. 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:08.880 The songs were really beautiful. 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.759 Now that I look back on them, I'm like, wow, 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.319 these were like really good, like really emotional or like 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:14.520 some really good bangers. 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:15.240 Oh yeah. 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:15.640 Yeah. 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.920 And but it was cool because not only did we 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.440 have that time and like rehearsal to bond and just 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.800 forget about that pressure, but then when we were filming 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.480 in Saint George, Utah, we were in these like little casitas, 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.279 and the main cast we were all attached so our 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.600 doors like attached, oh cool to each other, and that 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.799 was really cool. I feel like that helped take some 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.680 of the pressure off. Is us really feeling like we 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.520 were bonding? We were away at summer camps? 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.680 Oh my god, it comes around there, it is, We 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.040 got it. 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:55.919 That's what it is. 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.920 That's what it is. You nailed it. That was the moment. 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.360 Okay. So I'm going to put you on the spot 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.520 for two questions that I'm not happy to ask him. 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:08.880 You're not gonna be happy to answer him, because I've 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.920 got to We've got it, what you think? So, first 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.000 of all, favorite High School Musical movie? 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:15.960 Oh? 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.520 Okay, So, like I'm saying, High School Musical two was 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.040 my favorite to film. 0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.279 Okay, but to watch back. 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.920 My favorite is High School Musical three. Once again, I 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:32.080 feel like we had those just the sky was the limit. 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.160 The sky was the limit for us with all the 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:39.239 with all the production value and all the costumes. And 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.480 then for me, like I said, the arc of my 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:46.320 character Martha, I went from the first film being shy 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.480 and insecure and wanting to tell my secret, and then 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.560 in the third film, Kenny had this genius idea to 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:59.359 have Martha be head cheerleader and my wow, yeah, and 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:03.120 so it was like this coming of ages, like I 0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.480 spoke my truth and now look at me, I'm like 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.480 a natural born leader and I'm like confident and and 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.239 it was like very much similar to my story and 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.360 to what I wanted to leave Young Girls with that, 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.640 you know, and I love that my body was never 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:20.879 mentioned ever. 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.960 I was never the brunt of a joke. I was 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.880 never And that is what I. 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.640 Want on television and film for our young girls. And 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:30.920 it's so rare to find those roles, and so I 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:35.000 love that, like Kenny did that. So the third just 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.080 has like kind of a special place in my heart 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.280 for that and for Martha and her message, but also 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:41.240 just thank you guys. 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:42.880 I can't wait for you to watch it. Well. I 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:47.759 expect a text message after because I think you'll see 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:48.120 what I'm. 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.160 Talking about with like the numbers are so flashy, that 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.439 costumes are so big, like we could just go all out. 0:40:55.520 --> 0:41:02.600 Okay, So there's first question. Second question, singing, dancing or acting. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.160 You're only allowed to do one for the rest of 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.959 your life. What do you pick? 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.279 Oh, my gosh, I would die. I would die. 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:13.400 Gosh. 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:14.399 That's really hard. 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:16.080 Oh. 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.600 I would probably have to say just because it's like 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.080 born and bred into me, I'd have to say dance. 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.319 Yeah, because it like it really was my therapy growing up. 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.040 And I'm also like a choreographer, and that's a lot 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.360 of how I like do my stort, like storytelling and 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:30.960 things like that. 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:31.320 Sure. 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:35.080 So if I couldn't use like acting and skits and 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.440 like social media, which I love now, then I. 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.640 Would have to I'd have to pick dance. 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.879 Well. 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.800 Dance is cool though, because like, you can act without 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.120 having a smidge of dance, but you can't really dance 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.160 without having a smidge of music and acting, you know 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.640 what I mean. I feel like dance is the best 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.960 choice because you're still getting to do both aspects, just 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.400 maybe not as predominant as you are moving your body. 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.200 So I love that, and I do. 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.080 I will say one of my favorite compliments I ever 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.319 received from a judge at a dance competition because they 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:14.080 were like, wow, you are one of the best storytellers 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:18.920 I have ever seen, and she compared me to Debbie Reynolds. 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.359 I was like, well, I can die a happy a 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.640 happy girl. But it was because I was doing a 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.920 tap dance and my tap shoe flew off. I lost a. 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.640 Shoe and it literally landed on the judge's table. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:36.560 This is how God keeps me humble guys for days, 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.040 for days, I swear. I don't know if it's Murphy's 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.600 Well all with me, but I'm like every time I 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.200 think I'm maybe getting cool I to get humbled, real 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.719 bad happened, but yeah, and so I had to like 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.840 play off this whole tap dance with one shoe and 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.560 they were like, oh, you are such a phenomenal like storyteller. 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:54.920 And then when the shoe came off, I was like, 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.120 I'm watching Debbie Reynolds, like this is great. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.440 Okay, well, thank you so much for joining us here, 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:05.960 and can we I mean, I don't want to say 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.600 count on you, but can we hope that you'll come 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.000 back after we watch the third one? 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:09.799 Absolutely? 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.919 Okay, good, okay, good, okay. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.279 Good, all right, I will come back anytime. I love 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.120 what you guys are doing, and I think this is 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.880 the sweetest and most genius podcast, so I will be 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.560 there with bells on my Yes. 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.520 We're gonna go watch. Hopefully they're singing and dancing in 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.759 the third one, and I'm in. 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.960 You gotta tell everyone where to find you because your tiktoks, 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:38.200 your ig like you are continuously dancing, creating the most 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.200 fun content for people that not just love high school 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.680 musical but love dance and entertainment in general. So please 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.279 let them know where they can find you. 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:49.840 Thank you, Sabrina that that means the world to me. 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.400 I love creating, I love doing little skits. 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.160 I love dancing. I love that I can do in 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.919 my living room. 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.080 I love that your husband gets involved in them too. 0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:57.920 That's really fun. 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:04.240 Lesson Tart, you're getting nice and he's got two daughters 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:04.759 to deal with. 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.040 He is number. 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.000 Less Ben Higginson. 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.560 But yeah, everyone please follow me on Instagram. It's just 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.480 Case Strow k A y C S t r O H. 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.160 I know that's weird, but it's my nickname Case. And 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.640 of course because I got on social media after high 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:26.840 school musical, so. 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.880 I have not in mind because of the same and 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.960 they will not give it back. No, I know, Manytimes, 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:35.600 I ask, I know. 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.360 It's so it's Case Strow on Instagram and on TikTok 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.239 and on YouTube, and I love. I love being able 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.520 to connect with with fans and just spread a little 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:48.799 sunshine in a dark wall. 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:49.880 So I thank you. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.319 We got to get together and do one together because 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:53.960 that's I want to see that. 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.239 I want to, Yes, Sabrina, I am going to hold 0:44:58.280 --> 0:44:59.920 you to that. Well you're doing him. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.480 I don't social media. 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.360 He doesn't have social media, but he loves dancing. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:05.080 It doesn't matter. 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:05.520 I do. 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.319 It doesn't matter to dance. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.240 I also want to point out you're wearing your cheeateadh 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.640 girl top tonight. I noticed that. 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.799 Thank you very much, so glad you caught it. 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.960 Will I feel like I wear my wild Cat like 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.480 sweater that I would wear on the typical Monday at 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.439 the Wildcat Gymnasium for a basketball game. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:25.520 I would be wearing this. 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:30.680 I love that. Well girls, girl supporting girl everyone. 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.279 I love it and I love you guys, so thank 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:34.319 you so much for having me. 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.040 Thank you so much. Cases so appreciate it, and we 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.680 will see you for high school musical three sounds awesome. 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:44.040 Seeya bye bye. 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:45.480 So funny. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.080 Well, she's unpleasant to talk to. Yeah, right, she's like 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.680 an interview of sweetest, nicest person every I know. 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:57.280 And how I mean, what amazing humble beginnings and finding 0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:02.799 your way to such an a big project in the 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.440 any anyone that is a dancer in the industry. What 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.640 she experienced is the dream. 0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:11.640 Yeah, I mean it sounds like it's perfect. It's yeah, 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:12.680 you go into. 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.479 A cattle call, she's saying, a cattle call where there's 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.120 five hundred kids and you get pulled out to then 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:20.719 not just read a little bit of line, but to 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.360 eventually have like a character that gets developed over three movies. 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.680 Yeah by Kenny Ortega. 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.920 By Keny Early points you out, holds your hand and 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.480 says you are special, you are different, and you were amazing, 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:33.000 you were everything. 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.719 And then managers calling you, managers and agents going like, hey, yeah, 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:38.160 you should come to Beverly Hills. 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.120 You're not begging, you're not taking you, just please give 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.319 me five minutes to talk to you know. They're like, 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:45.120 please let me represent you. And by the way, I'm 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.239 going to find you an agent. Yeah. Right o. Guess 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:48.640 what someone's calling me here you go. 0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.759 Yeah, Hollywood Dream, Hollywood Dream, right dream. 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:52.719 That's amazing. 0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.359 Oh wow, Well, thank you for joining us on our 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.560 little Hollywood dream right here, which is of course the 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.760 magical rewind Pod. So yes, thank you so much, Casey 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.520 Strow for for joining us here talking to us, telling 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.040 us everything about the joy that is High School Musical. 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:10.240 I now have to like maybe drink myself into, you know, blackout, 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:11.919 because I don't want to remember anything she told about 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:17.520 High School Musical three Like I already no, I don't 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.280 want to know. I don't want to know. But it's great. 0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.440 That they finish her character story arc and all that 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.000 kind of just totally cool. So and of course go 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.000 for to follow her on all of her TikTok Instagrammy, 0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.560 she's the stuff I've kept hearing from everybody at iHeart, like, 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.600 oh my god, she's got the biggest following and she's 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.760 a huge dancer and all that good kind of stuff. 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:38.920 So has she done Dancing with the Stars? 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.880 No, she no, she has it. 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:43.920 It's like perfect for her. 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.839 She would do incredible on it. She would incredible, They 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:47.680 would love her. 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.920 Yeah, she seems like she is just absolutely made for 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:51.399 that show. 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.200 We disser a bit because she is considered a dancer, 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.000 and a lot of people on the show don't think 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.520 dancers should go on Dancing with the Stars. But you 0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.759 didn't anyway, I know, but a lot of us that 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.040 have dancing background. That is a big backlash when you 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:11.080 go against somebody who is a tennis player or you know, 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.680 has no no dance background, you do get a little 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.000 bit of a backlash a lot actually from the fans 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:17.359 of this show. 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:18.960 Well, then she should be one of the dance one 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.160 of the professional dancers. Yeah that man, Well, I have 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.560 none of that dance dance quality. So thank you everybody 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.600 once again for joining us on this Park Copper episode, 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.279 and thank you Casey for joining us and letting us 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:34.640 into the world that is East High. Wow so crazy. 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.040 But join us next time when we're gonna be watching 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:37.600 Go Figure. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.280 Yes, I think you're right, which I think. 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.839 Is just somebody sitting there going hmm, But no, it's 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:44.520 not actually that. I think it's a figure skating movie. 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.200 If i'm I am assuming it is too. But again, 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:48.880 I keep going back to thirteenth year. We thought it 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.160 was about a bar mitzvah and it just wasn't. So 0:48:51.520 --> 0:49:06.240 thank you everybody, and we will see you next time. Bye.