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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show, presented by Caesar's Reward. That's me

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Speaker 1: your man, MG Marcus Graham, masking and socially distancing when

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Speaker 1: and where necessary, and the drumbeat of Fantasy Camp goes on.

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Speaker 1: We get a little bit closer to the start of

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Speaker 1: something like that. It's coming very very quickly, looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. So we will continue with our positional breakdowns

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Speaker 1: looking at wide receivers. Have a fun guest to join

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Speaker 1: me today. But before we get to that, as I

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Speaker 1: always want to say hello to my faithful producer, Senior

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Speaker 1: Edward L. Murphy Esquire Murphy, hear your air conditioning troubles

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Speaker 1: are finally over. It's like the saga everyone is following

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Speaker 1: Absolutely call it in, get it, get it to come

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Speaker 1: let's talk some fantasy wide receivers and to join me

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Speaker 1: a guy who I'm I'm sure it's pretty warm where

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Speaker 1: he is right now is Derek Brown, the senior fantasy

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Speaker 1: football analyst at Fade the Noise. You can find him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at dbro Underscore f f B. Derek appreciates

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Speaker 1: you jumping in with me. How is the weather down

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Speaker 1: there in the Metroplex? Thanks for having me, Marcus Night.

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Speaker 1: It's it's blistering down here. I mean really, if you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit of risk there. Um, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: glad to have you with us. In fact, for folks

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Speaker 1: the fantasy community. No, but Faide the Noise. You guys

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Speaker 1: brand new company. This is Brad Evans and um a

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Speaker 1: the season under White, no doubt. Um, listen a little

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Speaker 1: The first thing is Bill Belichick says he is very

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Speaker 1: But report are from Las Vegas that the Raiders believe

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Speaker 1: gotten quite close to it. Are you are you buying?

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Speaker 1: maybe faster? David Montgomery in Okay. So I know that

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Speaker 1: two rounds. I mean, over the last six years, the

428
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: guy has only been a wide receivers wide receiver seven

429
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: or or in every single season. You know he's gonna

430
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: get around a hundred and fifty targets. Just I don't

431
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: understand if you're gonna fade Julio, what, what and why?

432
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: Because nobody can explain that, Like what why do you

433
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: not like Julio? If you don't like him? Tell me

434
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: somebody needs to gun at me with that. Yeah, I

435
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know. And it's funny because you know that not

436
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: long ago, I had uh Pat Doherty wrote Rodeo Pat

437
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: on the show, and we were talking about the falcons,

438
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I he mentioned that there might be

439
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: a little bit of projection with Calvin Ridley, and I

440
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: admitted that I was probably guilty of some of that,

441
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: and you know, he sort of brought me back to

442
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: reality with Look, man, Julio is going to get you know,

443
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 1: he's probably get his close to hundred catches. He's going

444
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: to get his thirteen to fourteen hundred yards and maybe

445
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 1: he's not the touchdown machine that people would like him

446
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: to be. But I mean, you gotta feel good about

447
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: a dude who's going to get you, you know, on

448
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: average twelve to fifteen Fantasy points on a on a

449
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: mediocre day. Uh. And so that sort of brought me

450
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: back to me. I still love Calvin Ridley. They'll ge

451
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: me wrong. I think he's still gonna have a great year.

452
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: But this idea that that Calvin Ridley could send the

453
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: vault and end up near the top five when Julio

454
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: is still walking the earth, Uh, makes me a little

455
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: bit more Yeah, realistic. I guess uh. Down in Arizona,

456
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: Ken new Co Hopkins be the same guy with the

457
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals that he was with the Texans the last few

458
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: years in the sense that he's gonna be a top

459
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: five wide receiver. That's it's gonna be strange. I think

460
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: he will be a wide receiver one. And that's That's

461
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: where I'm at with Duke. I think that there is

462
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Speaker 1: a path if we see early season Arizona last year

463
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: come back, could he for still finished there? I see

464
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: the path. Now, do you have to draft in there? No?

465
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: But I definitely see that that is in his range

466
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: of outcomes, It's just not where I'm really gonna pag

467
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: him at right now. Because with Arizona, I mean last year,

468
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: we saw the first six weeks of the season they

469
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: ran and super fast. I mean they were fourth in

470
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: place per game, and then they just put the book

471
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: put the brakes on everything after that. I mean they

472
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: were twenty nine in place for game seven weeks seven

473
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: through seventeen. So it's really comes down to, like, which

474
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: version of Arizona do you do you think we're gonna get?

475
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: And I think that they go back to running four

476
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver base sets. So do the targets get spread

477
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: up to other guys like Andy Isabella? We know Fitzgerald

478
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: is still there. He's really gonna need to revisit like

479
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: his ten to twelve touchdowns to really pay off and

480
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: be that top five guy again. Are there any other

481
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: cardinal receivers that you like? I guess Fitzgerald, But there

482
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: are any other guys you liked? Isabella's, the Hakim Butler,

483
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk's, anybody else there that has caught your

484
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: eye this draft season. I mean, just because I think

485
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: that that Arizona will go back to running I mean, look,

486
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: before they sloat everything down and turned into like a

487
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: two tight end like slow down team, they were running

488
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: four wide receivers as their base set. I mean they

489
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: were running out of four y nearly sixty of their plays.

490
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna take my shots, I'm gonna go

491
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: with a guy that flash last year. I mean, I

492
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: had no problems with Christian Kirk where he's going. I

493
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: think that he's the number two wide receiver there because

494
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: he had a higher target share when he was healthy

495
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: over Fitzgerald last year. So I don't mind Kirk where

496
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: he's going. If I'm going super super late and taking

497
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: the dart throw, it's Andy Isabella. But just because the speed,

498
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: the upside, and if he's just simply on the field

499
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: running for in those four wide receiver sets, I believe

500
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: in the talent. I just feel like the Cardinals receivers

501
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: outside of Nuke are all better best ball options I

502
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: think for week guys, just because you just never know

503
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: which one is going to pop on any given week.

504
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Looking at some of the mid tier guys, and this one,

505
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: this question, I wrote this, you know yesterday, and now

506
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: with news that has happened today and it's sort of

507
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: changed it a little bit. But how are we feeling

508
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: about Keenan Allen this year? And I sort of add

509
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: the caveat now that Mike Williams got injured in practice

510
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: and according to head coach Anthony Lynn, it looks like

511
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: he might be out a while. Does this change how

512
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: you maybe felt about Keenan Allen twenty four hours ago

513
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: a little bit? I mean no, I don't really think

514
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: that it moves Allen a ton for me, only because

515
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: the biggest limiting factor was not Mike Williams there, it's

516
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: it's their past volume for me. Like we've seen Keenan Allen,

517
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna garner somewhere around his twenty five percent

518
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: target share, But Tyrone last time he was under center,

519
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean he only threw the ball four orty times.

520
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: So even with Alan having this monstrous target share, even

521
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: if you peg Hi for whatt you're looking at in

522
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: the range of a hundred thirty targets, which is is awesome,

523
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: But does he really have the ceiling to really get

524
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: back to where he was and where he's been and

525
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: really reached that hundred f d mark. That's the part

526
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: that I've like, I really see the divide, and so

527
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: even though Williams is out, it doesn't move the needle

528
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: of that that much for me. I mean, could could

529
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: other pass catchers in this offense, like Austin Ekeler, Hunter Henry.

530
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: Can they soak up a little bit of a few

531
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: extra targets? Sure, I mean that's it within the range outcomes.

532
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: But I feel like the past volume is the biggest

533
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: limiting factor for Allan. Yeah, you know, I've kind of

534
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: gone back and forth on this charger offense. At first,

535
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: I was sort of out just because I felt like

536
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: I was really unclear on how this is going to work.

537
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Then I sort of talked myself up because I'm like, hey, look,

538
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Tyrod with a decent quarterback, and you look at the

539
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: splits between he and and Josh Allen and the numbers

540
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: the great out fairly similar, especially in terms of their

541
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: efficiency and that sort of thing. So maybe I can

542
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: talk myself into the Keenan Allen And to those guys,

543
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I would say, I love Austin Ekeler, There's no doubt

544
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: about that. I can kind of I can kind of

545
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: get with Alan, especially where he's coming off the board.

546
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: I have been a little bit hesitant on Hunter Henry.

547
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: I liked Mike Williams because he was coming late and

548
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: I would definitely take the shot at him. Uh So,

549
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying in a long, roundabout mealy

550
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Mouth sort of way is that I'm sort of like

551
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: halfway in, halfway out on this Charger offense this year.

552
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I don't know hard knocks. It's hard

553
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Knocks helping. Are we getting a hard knocks bump? You

554
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: think from from watching like the Chargers and the Rams

555
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: right now? I don't. I don't think so. I mean, honestly,

556
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: I think all these guys they're adp s, are pretty

557
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: much the same, or they're not really nudging. Like, I

558
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: don't see any of the hype really besides like my

559
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: love for cam Akers, besides that, I really don't see

560
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot changing for for either one of these

561
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: teams right now. It's weird. And usually I always pick

562
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: a guy that gets like the hard Knocks fantasy bump

563
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: because you know, maybe he gets a little feature on

564
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: him on one of the episodes or what happy are you?

565
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: Or because we always get to see some preseason actual

566
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: game action and maybe that house but we don't get

567
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: that this year, so maybe we don't get the bump.

568
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: Who knows choose your fighter, Tyler Lockett or DK Metcalf. Oh,

569
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: this is easy Tyler Lockett for me, and I don't

570
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Metcalf is getting drafted in a

571
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of places before Tyler Lockett because I really think

572
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: that this is Tyler Lockett situation, like he's the number

573
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: one there. I think that injuries last year really kind

574
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: of changed this as far as how we view these

575
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: two wide receivers. And before Lockett got injured in week ten,

576
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: he was the wide receiver five and PPR and points

577
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: per games, so he they didn't declare him healthy until

578
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: week fifteen, Marcus. And so I understand, like a lot

579
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: of people want to believe in the outside of DK

580
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: Metcalf and could he ascend. Sure, I mean that that's

581
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: within his range of outcomes, but this is not even

582
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: close for me. I mean it's Locket for me all day. Yeah.

583
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I do think there's an element of people remembering how

584
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: last season ended for Tyler Lockett. You mentioned the injuries,

585
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: him not being healthy. I think at one point he

586
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: had to stay overnight in the hospital because uh, he

587
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: was having issues last year, so I do think there's

588
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: some of that that comes into play. I also, honestly

589
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: just think you talked about age narratives a little while ago,

590
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: and I do think some of the age narratives. DK

591
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Metcalfe is sort of the new kid on the block

592
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: there in a manner of speaking in Seattle, and I

593
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: think after what he did last year, the fact that

594
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: he has a year under his belt, and that he's

595
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: younger than Tyler Lockett, I know that we all like

596
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: new shiny things in fantasy football, and you know, comparatively speaking,

597
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: he is the the newer, shinier option in that Seattle

598
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks passing game. Which guys that are available round four

599
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: or later, Maybe there's one, maybe there's more than one.

600
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Which of these guys are you really heavily targeting in

601
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: your drafts this year? So round four is I feel

602
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: like that is the wade receiver round for me, Like

603
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: there are so many water receivers in that round that

604
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: absolutely love. Whether you want to talk about d J.

605
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: Chark and can you get the A J. Green thirty

606
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: target share before he got hurt his wide receiver eight,

607
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you would talk about Terry McLaurin Washington is going to

608
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball more this year, Like that is definitively

609
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: going to happen. We've all seen all of the videos

610
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: of from practice yesterday and this week. Mclauren just bawling

611
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: out in practice. So I think that he's a stud

612
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I talked about Tyler Lockett. I think DeVante Parker is

613
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: still gonna garner somewhere in the range of a hundred

614
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: thirty targets if I'm going a little bit later. Um,

615
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: after all, my will Fuller love and the in the

616
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: sixth round. The guy that I want to walk away

617
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: from most drafts with and he's getting a lot of

618
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: campus right now, is Paris Campbell. I know we've talked

619
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: about in previously Marcus, but I'm not can't get off

620
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: of Bears Campbell where you're gonna get him in drafts.

621
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's going somewhere in the twelfth to fourteenth round.

622
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Is just a smash for me. I mean, I feel

623
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: like he fits exactly what the Colts want to do

624
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: in their passing offense. I get that people love Michael Pittman.

625
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: This is not me shaming Michael Pittman. I like him

626
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: as a prospect, but having him walk into his rookie

627
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: season to learn and play X and win on the

628
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: outside versus Pears Campbell, who this Colts attack is gonna

629
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: be short area targets, four three speed from the slot,

630
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: and he can win and do things after the catch.

631
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: It's not even close. Man. I want Pays Campbell and

632
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: every single draft that I can come away with him

633
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: where he's going. I appreciate you kind of soft pedaling,

634
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Michael Pittnics. I just have to let you know what

635
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: this is. It. This is a USC Trojan friendly show here,

636
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: So I do you remember that? So I appreciate that.

637
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I was, like you mentioned DeVante Parker. Are you not

638
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: concerned at all about Preston Williams being back and healthy

639
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: because when they were on the field together, they were

640
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: both They're both fine, but they both sort of, you know,

641
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: ate off each other's plates if you will too. I'm

642
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: not concerned about that, only in the sense of how

643
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: I kind of view this offense. I think Preston Williams

644
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: is definitively gonna be involved. But Parker, we saw him

645
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: take a massive step last year and we all talk

646
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: about like more defensive attention. We've all seen what he

647
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: did versus the Patriots, versus one of the best corners

648
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL and Stefan Gilmore. I feel like we

649
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: saw him a sin last year when he was asked

650
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: to be the number one in this offense, and just

651
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: now Chan Gailey's run his offenses in previous seasons through

652
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: one main outside wade receiver and a slot option. I'm

653
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: really putting all my chips into Mike Kasecki and DeVante

654
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Parker this year. I think that those are the two

655
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: avenues that the Dolphins go through as far as the

656
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: passing game. I do like Khasiki, and for a while

657
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: I was worried that the ADP was going to rise

658
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: a little bit too much, but it seems like it's

659
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: sort of stabilized, so I feel okay with with where

660
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: he is. Is still available On the flip side, which

661
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: of those guys you know round four or later are

662
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: you sort of dodging right now? So I know we

663
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: talked about Keenan Allen. I just think that considering what

664
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: we've seen him doing previous seasons, the volume ceiling and

665
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: his upside is capped for me, So where he's going

666
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: in drafts, Like do I understand like people are gonna

667
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: get a safe wide receiver too, that's great, but I

668
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: don't see any way that like in his range of

669
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: outcomes unless Herbert takes over and they've become like this

670
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: gargantel in passing team, which is not what Anthony Lan

671
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: wants to do this year. I don't see the ceiling

672
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: for for Keenan Allen, so I'm avoiding him in a

673
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of drafts. Marquis Brown is a guy that I

674
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: don't find myself coming away with a lot in drafts

675
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: because where he's going at round six, round seven, there's

676
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: just so many guys there that I really just want

677
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: to take above him, as far as Will Fuller, Michael Gallop,

678
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: even Tyler Boyd, because I think that the passing volume

679
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: is gonna be increased over over what he's possibly gonna

680
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: see in Baltimore, and I feel like we're probably drafting

681
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: him near his ceiling um. The same reasons for Stefon Diggs.

682
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: I like Diggs as a talent. I think he's one

683
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: of the best most talented wide receivers in the NFL.

684
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: As far as separation, route running, all of those things,

685
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time buying in as far

686
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: as like with Buffalo, if you want to tell yourself

687
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: a story, in Buffalo, they're gonna run three wide receiver

688
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: sets a whole lot. Cole Beasley is still going to

689
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: get targets as well as John Brown. And for as

690
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: much as we want to believe in Stefon Diggs, is

691
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: he gonna have Spike weeks. Sure, he's definitively gonna have those.

692
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: But with Josh Allen being in the quarterback who's only

693
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: thrown above two sixty passing yards once once in two years,

694
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: that's a hard sell for me. So I can't draft

695
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: him in round six. I have gone from early in

696
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: fantasy draft season getting quite a bit of stuff on

697
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Diggs to pivoting to John Brown to now just sort

698
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: of being out on Bills receivers. And I don't know

699
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: if it's that. You know, so sometimes camp reports can

700
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: backfire on you, right, Like seeing the camp reports, seeing

701
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: everybody get really excited about Josh Allen, you know, quote

702
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: unquote learning how to play the quarterback position, but still

703
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: seeing reports of him, you know, missing targets or throwing interceptions,

704
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: has sort of gotten me to slowly back away from

705
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: the Bill's passing game over the last few weeks. All right,

706
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: So a pivot to the rookies. Who is your top

707
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: fantasy rookie wide receiver? For I was there before the draft.

708
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm still there. I'm following the drumbeat. It's all Jalen

709
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: Rigor for me. I love Jalen Reagor. This year, Philly's

710
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna run them out of plays. They were first and

711
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: plays per game last year. He's got an easy path

712
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: to be the number one wide receiver here. And for

713
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: as much as we like to Sean Jackson and his upside,

714
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: he still can't prove, like right now and in the

715
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: previous seasons, that he can stay on the field for

716
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: full sixteen games. I think that Rigor is a much

717
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: more polished wide receiver than a lot of people gave

718
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: him credit coming out. I I keep telling myself this

719
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: story where the Eagles wide receiver corps stays healthy and

720
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: they are deep and they are robust, that you know

721
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: that we get say, you know, fourteen fifteen games out

722
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: of Alashawan Jeffrey, that we get twelve to fifteen games

723
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: out of the Shawan Jackson, that Rigor finds a role

724
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: within there. I keep telling myself the story because I

725
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: keep believing that Carson Wentz could set himself up for

726
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: eight top five fantasy season, and I've been taking late

727
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: shots at him just kind of on that hope. But

728
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: I think hearing you, I mean, it's just it is

729
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: a calm, level headed realization of Look this, this wide

730
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: receiver corps has been banged up for the last couple

731
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: of years, and the guys that they are counting on

732
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: most right now are older players in Jeffrey and Jackson,

733
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: So it does sort of open things up for Jalen Reagor.

734
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: I had been very much on the Justin Jefferson train.

735
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: The reports right now aren't terrible. I mean, it's not

736
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: that he looks bad. It just that he looks like

737
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: a rookie who is still maybe a step or two

738
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: behind everybody else. That's I guess, kind of be expected,

739
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a guy that needs the Vikings

740
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to run more three wide receiver sets in order to

741
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: get on the field, in order to get those targets.

742
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: So maybe I am sort of, you know, sliding towards

743
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: the Jalen Reagor camp, but I'm still not completely letting

744
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: go of my Justin Jefferson dream right now, because I

745
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: still think there's there's a spot for him to be

746
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: productive this year of the rookies. And it's funny we

747
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: so we talked about rookie wide receivers. We don't talk

748
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: about the big three from this draft class. We didn't

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: talk about Jerry Judy or Ceedee Lamb or Henry Ruggs.

750
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Of all of the rookies in this class, who do

751
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: you think has the highest long term ceiling? It's Ceedee

752
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Lamb And it's as good as all these wade receivers are.

753
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: And as much as I love ragor Ceedee Lamb has

754
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: an alpha profile and where he is landing in Dallas

755
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: was such a great landing spot for him. I mean,

756
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: if you look at Gallup and Cooper, possibly one of

757
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: them are both of them is out of there in

758
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: two years. I mean, Ceedee Lamb is the alpha and waiting,

759
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: that's all he is. He could dominate from the slot.

760
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: I think they could win on the outside DAC if

761
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: he's there long term. It's just such a great situation

762
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: for him for the future. All right. I I'm sort

763
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: of trying. I think it probably is Ceedee Lamb just

764
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: because of the way the Cowboys offense has has transitioned

765
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: from more of a Zeke centered offense to a Dack

766
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: centered offense over the last few years. I like Judy's talent.

767
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on Drew Lock necessarily as the future

768
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: there in Denver. And in same sort of with the Raiders,

769
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: right that the Raiders don't seem to want to commit

770
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: to Derek Carr and so that makes things sort of questionable.

771
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: What about what happens with Henry Rugs? So I think

772
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Ceedee Lamb is sort

773
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: of the right answer. Uh. As we get towards the

774
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: end of the show, I want to do some some

775
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: who'd you rather with you? I'll give you two options.

776
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: You picked the one you like best. I will start

777
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: with a couple of Rams receivers Cooper cup or Actually

778
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: before we do this real quick now that I'm thinking

779
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: of Rams receivers, your thoughts on Van Jefferson. We talked

780
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: about the rookies and Van Jefferson kind of got a

781
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: lot of run that the Rams had a scrimmage over

782
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: the weekend. There was at one point they lined Van

783
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: Jefferson up against Jalen Ramsey to kind of get him

784
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: some work with, you know, maybe the toughest competition you

785
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: can find any thoughts to, maybe some dart throws at

786
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: him late in drafts. I love him. I feel like

787
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: people that are probably gonna go with Reynolds are looking

788
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: at the wrong wide receiver. I think that Jefferson did

789
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: like which talking about some rookies struggling in camp. Right now, Jefferson,

790
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: all of the drumbeat has been super positive. They're already

791
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: putting him with the ones and seeing how he can

792
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: win and how he can win the matchups versus their

793
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: best cornerback. I feel like all of these things screamed

794
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: that the Rams really believe in him and he's not

795
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: proving them wrong. So I like him. I think that

796
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: he can win the role as the third wide receiver

797
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: over Reynolds. I like him in multiple formats, like I'm

798
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of exposure as far as like last

799
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: pick of s ball if you're looking for Rams. Yeah,

800
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: I like Van Jefferson a whole whole lot. Even though

801
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: his prospect profile coming out did not like jump off

802
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: the page. What he's showing in the role that he

803
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: could have in the Rams offense I think really could

804
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: surprise people. Yeah, I agree. Um. I sort of thought

805
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: when they drafted him that that was bad news for

806
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, that those two are going to keep teat

807
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: a lot and and I figured that Jefferson was going

808
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: to get every opportunity to win, and so far it

809
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: seems like that that has been the case there in

810
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Rams camp. All right, So now who'd you rather? Cooper

811
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: Cup or Robert Woods? And I'm gonna throw this little

812
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: nugget in that just came across my Twitter timeline from

813
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Roger Boy who was the beat writer for the

814
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Rams for the Athletic, and she tweeted, Robert Woods just

815
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: entered a different plane in the spacetime continuum to snag

816
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: a catch across the middle between several defensive players. So,

817
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: now that I've dropped that little nugget in there, I'm

818
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: going to ask you Cooper Cup or Robert Woods. Even

819
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: though you're leading me towards Woods, I'm still gonna go

820
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: towards Cup. I know, I know, I look and I

821
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: love Robert Woods. For me, it's it's it's what do

822
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: you see for the Rams offense this year? And I

823
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: think that they go back to three wide receiver sets.

824
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: I think that their offense was decimated by injuries last

825
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: year on the offensive line. I don't think that this

826
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: twelve personnel thing, and that has me out on Tyler Higbee.

827
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: I think it's Cooper Cup. We've seen his ceiling Marcus

828
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: last year. The beginning of the year, he was wide

829
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: receiver two over the first eight or nine games. Idol

830
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: in Michael Thomas is good as Woods is. I don't

831
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: see that in his range of outcomes as far as

832
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: the ceiling, but we've seen that at a Cup. I

833
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: would say my case for Robert Woods has been one

834
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: that their their numbers, their totals were very close to

835
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: one another last year, and that's what Woods actually playing

836
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: one fewer game. I do think that the touchdown numbers

837
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: maybe get a little bit closer, and you know, I

838
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: can see Cup coming down off of those ten touchdowns

839
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: last year. I also see Woods scoring more than two.

840
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: For all the work that he did in the offense

841
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: last year, to score just two touchdowns seems like something

842
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: of an anomaly. So I see those numbers getting closer.

843
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: The one thing I felt like Woods had in his

844
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: favor was that they used him sort of as the

845
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: facto running back a lot of times. He ran a

846
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: lot of those Jets sweeps. He had a lot of

847
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: rushing yards. I do worry that that goes away because

848
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: they have so many running backs that they're trying to

849
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: shuffle between Cam Akers and and Darryl Henderson whenever he's healthy,

850
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: that Malcolm Brown is there, what have you. So I

851
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: do worry that that that part of woods game gets

852
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: to to get out. But where where he's been available

853
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: in drafts? I have drafted Robert Woods many, many, many

854
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: times so far this summer. Uh, Will Fuller or Brandon Cooks. Oh,

855
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm a Fuller stand I want will Fuller here. I

856
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: think that for an offseason. We've talked about all the

857
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: rapport and all these things about like continuity, and I

858
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: understand Brandon Cooks can go anywhere and apparently mesh with

859
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: any quarterback. We've seen that time and time. But Will

860
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Fuller is just a stud I think that he's shown

861
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: when he's been on the field. And I know people

862
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: listening to it are gonna just automatically eye roll and

863
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: talk about injuries, because that's what we always here. First,

864
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: Twitter needs to injury jokes. By the way, um Will

865
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Fuller has just been awesome. I mean, twenty three games

866
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson his sixteen game pace, Marcus was about

867
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards in ten touchdowns, So the ceiling is

868
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: definitively there for him. Yeah, I've been saying lately that

869
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: you look at the sixteen game pace, right, we should

870
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: be talking about Will Fuller in the same breath as

871
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: like the Adam Feelings and the Marii Cooper's of the world.

872
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: But we don't. And I think because of those injury concerns,

873
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: which you can't completely brush them off, but I think

874
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: that is sort of factored into where he's going in drafts.

875
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: And I'm completely with you on this one. I think

876
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, because of what he offers when he's on

877
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: the field, he and Deshaun Watson are touchdown magic, not

878
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: just that they are long touchdown magic. I think I

879
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: think I looked at they have fourteen touchdowns together in

880
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: the games they've played with one another. Of those four

881
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: teen touchdowns, seven of them have been thirty yards or longer.

882
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: So they are a big play combination waiting to happen.

883
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: And I will take the chance on on whatever happens

884
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: with him injury wise, to get those sort of big

885
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: plays in my lineup on a week to week basis,

886
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: because I think it's totally worth it. And again, because

887
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting him as my week to week wide

888
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: receiver one, I have some flexibility there in case things

889
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: go sideways again. All right, we're gonna go school here,

890
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: Randy Moss or Antonio Brown. Oh, it's gotta be Moss

891
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: for me. He was too good. Are you on the

892
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: other side or I'm I'm Randy. Look, I keep saying,

893
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: I think there's a video on NFL dot com where

894
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: it is all of I think they put it out

895
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: for Randy Moss's forty birthday. It was all of his

896
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns of forty yards or longer. It's a seven minute video,

897
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: which is heresy on the internet. I watched every minute,

898
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: every second of that seven minute video. So no, I'm

899
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: definitely not on the other side. Yeah, no, I I

900
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: called it. I totally agree. Although look, I will say,

901
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: and I know I'm not alone in this that post

902
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: Randy Moss Antonio Brown is probably the best receiver we

903
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: have seen in the NFL. Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

904
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: I love Antonio. It's just Moss is a boss man

905
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: like you. Can't get quay from him. I mean how

906
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: good he was for how long and the fact that

907
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: he didn't see anywhere near the amount of volume than

908
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Antonio saw. I can't get away from Randy quick quick story.

909
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: I met a guy once who was a student trainer

910
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: at Marshall when Randy Moss was there, and he told

911
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: me a story that it was at the end of practice,

912
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: they lined everybody up on the goal line, everybody to

913
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: do like a hundred yards sprint or what have you.

914
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: Randy was off to the side signing autographs for kids.

915
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: When the whistle blew. He started about ten to fifteen

916
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: yards behind everybody else and won the race by ten yards.

917
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: So that's a little bit about Randy Moss right there.

918
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Um all right, outside of football, just talking movies, Blockbuster movies,

919
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise or Will Smith. Will Smith that that I

920
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: saw this on the show sheet and I was like, um,

921
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be closer. I mean, I'm

922
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: a Will Smith guy, but I thought it'd be closer.

923
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: I figured. And I say that because I love the

924
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible series. I have him too. But I have

925
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: this theory that that Ethan Hunt should sort of be

926
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: the American counterpart to James Bond, so that whenever Tom

927
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: Cruise is done playing Ethan Hunt, we just find a

928
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: new actor and he plays Ethan Hunt, and we just

929
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: keep this thing roller. I mean, there's what twenties seven,

930
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: I think something like that James Bond films, like, let's

931
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: just keep those rolling with with Mission Impossible's keep Ethan

932
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Hunt alive forever. So maybe I was waiting. Maybe I

933
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: was waiting those movies a little too heavily. I don't know.

934
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I love Will Smith. I mean, maybe it's just as

935
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, Marcus. I don't know, man, like I

936
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: can't watch like I am. Legend is amazing. I love

937
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: that movie and Deer Gotten headed up Ball like a

938
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: three year old, like I cried like a maybe every

939
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: time I watched to It's fantastic. All right, last one

940
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: for you French Fries or tater tots. There is nothing

941
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: on the face of God's Green Earth that is better

942
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: than Chiley cheese tots. I'm just just gotta say it,

943
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: Amen A man, I cannot. I cannot disagree with that.

944
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I remember going to UH. I know they're

945
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: they're not a sponsor, but maybe so maybe Sonic wants

946
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: to sponsor us. I just remember the first time I

947
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: ever went to one and I pulled up in the

948
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: drive through and I ordered a meal and the person

949
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: on the other end said, would you like French fries

950
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: or tater totts? And my exact response was tots. So yeah,

951
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: that I am. I'm a tot guy all day long. Uh,

952
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: Derek had a great time. I appreciate you coming on

953
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the show. For folks who don't know, hit him one

954
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: more time with the where they can find your stuff. Yeah,

955
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: so follow me on Twitter at Deeper Underscore FB. You

956
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: can find all of my content, um, whether it's ft

957
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: and Fantasy dot com, ft and Daily dot com and

958
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of stuff on FtM betts dot com.

959
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, really just trying to crush all forms of

960
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: fantasy betting Daily. Um yeah, check it out. Um we're

961
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: pumping out a ton of content. I'm still going through

962
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: all my Coach series. Um, all of those, all thirty

963
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: two teams will be out by the end of the week.

964
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: So diving into pace, passing, great personnel, everything and all things.

965
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: But Marcus, this is a blast man. Thank you for

966
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: having me. I appreciate it. But I tell your boy

967
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Brad Evans that the next time we can get together

968
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: in person, I will buy him his favorite shot at tequila. Absolutely,

969
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: we appreciate all of you out there as well. That

970
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: is it. We are done. We appreciate you hanging with

971
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show presented by Caesar's Rewards. You

972
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: know the drill. Tell to friends, to tell to friends,

973
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974
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975
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Speaker 1: To calling yourselves. Wear a mask and we will see

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Speaker 1: you on Thursday. Yet come