WEBVTT - Angels trade deadline plans

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Angels as a whole need to be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking a lot differently about their young players and about

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<v Speaker 1>building as an organization and being patient in that process

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they just aren't right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we've got the athletic Sam Blum joining us right

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<v Speaker 2>now to talk a little Angels balls. This team is

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<v Speaker 2>still involved in the wildcard picture right now, and being

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<v Speaker 2>that it's July and we're almost at the trade deadline. Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>good to see you, by the way, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>start there. Do you think that the Angels will do

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<v Speaker 2>a little buying if they're in a similar spot now

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<v Speaker 2>to where they are two weeks from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I wouldn't. That wouldn't surprise me at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that some what they should do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the aoilid card picture, like the

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<v Speaker 1>three games out right now, but they're I think tied

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<v Speaker 1>with like four other teams that have pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same record, and I think, you know, the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Sox and the Mariners are tied for the actual spot

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of them, So they're really working with like five

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<v Speaker 1>or six other teams. You know. I don't think their

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<v Speaker 1>chances are amazing, but they're not out of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all know how the Angels operate, right, Like, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be aggressive, you know that they never think about rebuilding

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<v Speaker 1>like there if they have a chance, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to blame them, and they have them to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>in eleven years. If you if you have a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you almost feel like you should take it. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I mean, we saw the same

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<v Speaker 1>mistake they made two years ago by by going all

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<v Speaker 1>in and you know, instead of subtracting there and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>being in a better position right now, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to add and are in the spot they're in, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of fighting for a playoff spot and

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, I guess exceeding expectations, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in certain ways this season. So yeah, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>might if they're in this position. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that means they should. You know, there's also scenarios where

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<v Speaker 1>they can kind of, you know, be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>nuanced and maybe buying and smelling in certain different areas.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm my guess is they would be aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>if they're within three games of the playoffs spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this is a very different case from

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<v Speaker 2>a few years ago. I mean, you've got Otani there

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<v Speaker 2>at the finish line. Teams would offer a ton set

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<v Speaker 2>their franchise back a bit. I can only imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to land Jackson Merrill, who was apparently

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<v Speaker 2>in talks when they were discussing a trade option with

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<v Speaker 2>the Padres. Fast forwarding to now, Sam, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the team hasn't been in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>for what over a decade at this point pushes them

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little more aggressive and take the chance

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<v Speaker 2>just because they are in the mix right now. The

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<v Speaker 2>American League, I think has been down over the past

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. It still seems to be the case.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you think that it would be a win

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<v Speaker 2>even if they get into a wild card and don't

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<v Speaker 2>win a game, but just to crack the playoffs with

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<v Speaker 2>the roster that they have and kind of send a

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<v Speaker 2>message that we're trying to get back on the winning

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<v Speaker 2>side of things one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>If they can get into the wildcard win or lose

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you've this would be a map. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost ninety nine games last year, so this would

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<v Speaker 1>be an amazing turnaround if that happens. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>issue that you kind of have to grapple with here

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean, at least according to like Fangrafts, they

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<v Speaker 1>have about like a three to four percent chance of

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<v Speaker 1>even doing that. So I just to me, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be you got to be smart about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to be thinking about your future. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of people to trade unless they want to

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<v Speaker 1>get like really aggressive in trade like a Joe Adell

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<v Speaker 1>or a Redebt Meers whose values are significantly up for

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<v Speaker 1>when they were maybe like a month or two ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They could they could go down that route, although I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be very surprised if they do ultimately, Like the guys

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<v Speaker 1>they really have are you know, like a Luis Rahifu

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<v Speaker 1>is performing better right now, at Euan Monkata who's back healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you know, a Kenley Jansen who I think part

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<v Speaker 1>of his value will depend on how much the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of any of the contract they'll eat. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they they if they're in that mix, right

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<v Speaker 1>like if they're right there, I agree with you, like

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<v Speaker 1>not having been to the playoffs in eleven years, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the overall mindset of the organization just as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of their their way that they operate would set

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me that they're going to be aggressive if

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<v Speaker 1>they have any sort of chance of making the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you that two years ago is different,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also isn't right like it's it's about just

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<v Speaker 1>the way you look at, you know, your future, the

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<v Speaker 1>way you look at building as a team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like they had a better chance to really build two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago than they do right now. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that what you've seen so far this year is

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<v Speaker 1>when you get good young players, when they when you

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<v Speaker 1>put them in a position to succeed, like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good chance that they will. You know that a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Zach netto No and Shaanowell, you know, those guys

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<v Speaker 1>have really really, really gotten better this year. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Shaanawell in particular, I think is you know, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the same way as maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other young players, but he's in my opinion, been

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<v Speaker 1>their their best hitter the season. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they you've seen what happens when you when you give

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<v Speaker 1>when you get good young players, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>should be an example to this organization of how they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, need to be building and how they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be thinking, especially as they approach a trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>where they might not have the best chance of making

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<v Speaker 1>the posseason. They have a really tough schedule in July.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to play better against good teams, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what that means. But the next three weeks will

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are those pieces that they would fill in. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>say they get within two games on July twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the biggest need fill in piece that would push

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<v Speaker 3>them over the top and push put them in a

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<v Speaker 3>wild card.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they just you know, I think with the

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<v Speaker 1>Angels this year, I look at their team as like

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really bad in any area, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not excelling in any area either. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>the only team in baseball that's used all five of

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<v Speaker 1>their starting pitchers, like they have not. They've only these

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<v Speaker 1>five starting pitchers, and it's been that that way the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season. They've been on rotation. It's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of anomalist to the way things typically go with

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<v Speaker 1>this team. I mean, the US eighteen starting pitchers last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, I think they could use another

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitcher frankly, I mean, you know, Tyler Anderson and

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<v Speaker 1>Jack o'han witz have struggled a lot recently. Anderson's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better in the last couple starts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that would be an area of need.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can always use another, you know, solid

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen arm. Although I will say that I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>been more of a strength and that's partially what's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the back in the mix over the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks or so.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>In the outfield, it's you know, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what you do in the outfield. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they don't have any depth as an organization

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<v Speaker 1>in that position. But right now there are three starters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like much sure he would take out I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Solaire's been having a really tough year. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, a game winning home run last night, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could use you know, another outfielder. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can use in starting pa. I mean, they could

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<v Speaker 1>just use they can use just a little bit more everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like there's there's any glaring, glaring needs

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<v Speaker 1>as far as you know, the way I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially if Luis Ronhifo kind of starts performing

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<v Speaker 1>continues performing the way he has over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam, you made me laugh, by the way when you

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<v Speaker 4>said jo Moncatta is healthy as a former White as

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<v Speaker 4>a White six fan. I mean that was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like an oxymoron, is it? Mioal Moncatta is healthy? Like?

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<v Speaker 4>For how long? Is the is the real question?

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<v Speaker 1>We Yeah, he's been a line up for two days now,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess we'll see what that he's due.

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<v Speaker 4>For, a back or a hamstring or something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate to say that, but gosh, dang man, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been it's been a rough run for numerous years. Here, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. The Angels want to try it, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're not better than a lot of the teams that

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<v Speaker 4>are even equal or or ahead of them in the standing.

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<v Speaker 4>So they want to try and go for it. They

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<v Speaker 4>want to try and do this. You mentioned all the

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<v Speaker 4>position players. Is there a bat out there that they

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<v Speaker 4>could go get to plug in? Because you know, Christian

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<v Speaker 4>Moore is gonna come back. No one, no one, shod

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<v Speaker 4>Well netto Mancata. You have a HOPI they're young, they're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a young core, right, so you wouldn't wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to stunt their development by going out and getting a bat.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't know where you would put that back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I'm saying, Like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>right now, logan on Hopy has been not good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just you know, that's you could go out

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<v Speaker 1>and get another catcher. But I agree with you, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's the value in that? I mean, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say you're the best thing as an organization

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<v Speaker 1>that they can do is make sure Hoppy gets better

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, play them and you know, figure that

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<v Speaker 1>out for him. I mean that's like I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that I don't really see any value in

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<v Speaker 1>going and adding a ton of bad, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of offense. Rather, I mean it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>could go try to bolster the bench a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>to me buying right now. I mean, unless unless, like something,

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<v Speaker 1>they get really hot over the next three weeks, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make a ton of sense to me, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's just everyone's gonna say, like I just being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, down or negative, But it's just I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it. You know, they they have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of teams to jump, they have a lot of challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a lot of challenges ahead of them if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to make the postseason. And you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just a track record that would lead me to believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just not where this is headed. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe somebody can clip this in two months and

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<v Speaker 1>make me looking at it and they did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be great. I just don't, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it right now. Their team is is good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting there good, and you it's not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And and uh, there's a lot of flawed teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the American League, so they're they're they're in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, it's just that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels as a whole should always, you know, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>should be thinking about what you can do to make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself better next year, what you can do to make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself better in twenty seven, to really build a foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way they've been using some of

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<v Speaker 1>their their young uh, starting pitching prospects, bringing them up

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<v Speaker 1>and just like putting them in long relief games. Wrote

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<v Speaker 1>outings like Sam Alde Garrett from Double A for one

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<v Speaker 1>day on Tuesday and through forty two pitches in an inning,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just let him get embarrassed out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, send him back down to Double A.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what's the value in that? Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Angels as a whole need to be thinking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot differently about their young players and about building

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<v Speaker 1>as an organization and being patient in that process in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that they just aren't right now.

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<v Speaker 3>A few years ago, I played with Joe Adell on

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<v Speaker 3>Team USA, and somebody from the organization showed a scouting

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<v Speaker 3>report that they did own Joe Adell and they rated

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<v Speaker 3>him as a possible future Hall of Famer. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>gone that well for him since he's been up in

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<v Speaker 3>the big leagues. It was kind of a reach as

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<v Speaker 3>far as a report. But now that he had that

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<v Speaker 3>hot month of June with all those dingers, has Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Adele arrived as a guy who should be playing every

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<v Speaker 3>single day in the big leagues Versus righty's versus lefties,

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<v Speaker 3>versus velo versus spin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do. I mean I think that, like you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned all the home runs, but to me, like what's

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<v Speaker 1>been most impressive is is the lack of strikeouts, more

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<v Speaker 1>more walks. I mean, he's taking good at it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard guy to get out right now. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's cooled off a tiny bit since that the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, but for the most part, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's just putting really good swings on the ball. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the difference for him is, you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>just not accepting that he's a strike he's that he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a you know, a three tree outcomes type

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<v Speaker 1>power hitter. Right like he two years ago, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>him talking about he was just he was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that he was he was going to strike out,

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<v Speaker 1>that was going to be part of his game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that he's doing that anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's he's understood that he can be a real legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on base type hitter that also has power.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know, whoever gave you that scouting

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<v Speaker 1>report right like that was part of the partially what

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<v Speaker 1>they were probably open to see. And it's starting to

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<v Speaker 1>come together. I don't know if the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>is is where he's headed or where he's ticketed, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I do think, you know, he could

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<v Speaker 1>have deserved an All Star and nod this year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>George Springer might be would be ahead of him, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's there's probably a lot of debate

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<v Speaker 1>you can make over over the selections that they made

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<v Speaker 1>in the americanly outfield, but you know, overall, I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's he's figured something out. Like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>made himself an actual big league hitter. You know, We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it in the past when he's gone on hot streaks.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs hot and cold quite a bit, and when

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<v Speaker 1>he gets hot, he hits a lot of home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this time around he's got he's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>on base a lot more, and he's actually looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a real major league hitter as opposed to someone who

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<v Speaker 1>can you know, square one up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, every couple of days, Sam, It's well documented

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<v Speaker 2>that this team has made some disastrous free agent signings

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. We do not have to remind anyone

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<v Speaker 2>about those pain points. But I'm going to take it

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<v Speaker 2>to the other route. Should they be thinking about extension

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<v Speaker 2>talks with some of these players. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they have had any open conversations. We have logan Al

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<v Speaker 2>Hoppy on the show pretty frequently. I think we asked

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<v Speaker 2>him at one point and he said, no combos yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So between o'hapi and net Oh and Shannowell and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even Joe Adele at this point, as you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>had ups and downs and right now isn't a good spot,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they project him forward looking good. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's only got a couple of years left of team control.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do if your peramination and Ardie Marino

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<v Speaker 2>actually listened to you and you said, hey, can I

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<v Speaker 2>pick two guys here where we give them league market

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<v Speaker 2>extensions at the rate that they're at in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>service time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think they missed the boat on this,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you a little bit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>some of these extensions should have been thought about or

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<v Speaker 1>negotiated either before this season started or you know, last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's just it's tougher to extend

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<v Speaker 1>guys when they've kind of proven themselves as big leaguers

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they know their market's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>once they hit free agency, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>probably more than you know, at least what the Angel's

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<v Speaker 1>recent history has kind of shown us. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Angels haven't really made a big free agent signing in

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<v Speaker 1>about five since Anthony were in doing I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>just said they haven't, right like they've they think they're

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<v Speaker 1>max contract that they've handed out as Kikuchi this year,

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<v Speaker 1>that's three over sixty three year sixty three. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not really operating as a big market

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<v Speaker 1>team in the last five years by any measure. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they they probably should have done that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're if those players are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in their price range right now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly if that's that's on the table right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it is, yeah, talk about a hoppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it probably is the agency, right Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certain agents are probably more open to something like that

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<v Speaker 1>than others. But you know, the whole point of doing

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<v Speaker 1>that is extending you know that that that window that

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<v Speaker 1>you have for an extra maybe one two seasons before

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<v Speaker 1>they hit you know, the first you know, real free

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<v Speaker 1>agency of their careers and you have to incentivize that

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<v Speaker 1>in a certain way, and I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels are all going to spend that type of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, Perry wash like all these guys

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<v Speaker 1>came from Atlanta, where that's been you know, the method

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<v Speaker 1>of operation right, extending young players, and just haven't haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done that here. I think, you know, part of what

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<v Speaker 1>all of this you know, you know, you talk about windows,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, you know, it's an interesting conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone looks at the Angels right now is Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got some good young players, but those windows aren't forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of these guys are going to be free

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<v Speaker 1>agents before you really know it. And so you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that and just the calculus of how they push,

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<v Speaker 1>how they build, how they you know, think about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their future, if they're thinking about it in that context.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just and everything with the Angels is always

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<v Speaker 1>about the present, and I think that's probably why to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent, they haven't you know, pulled the trigger on

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of extension serious extension talk as of yet.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Sam, I hate to do this to you,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want to just say thank you for the article.

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<v Speaker 4>You wrote on Bobby Jenks. He obviously passed away. We

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<v Speaker 4>talked about Bobby h and I want to say thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for the great article you put out about him

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<v Speaker 4>on the Athletic before he passed away, about him and

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<v Speaker 4>his family and in the challenges he was going through.

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<v Speaker 4>So nothing about the Angels other than Bobby came up

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<v Speaker 4>in the Angels organization. But thank you from me and

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<v Speaker 4>from my teammates and from Bobby Jenks fans for writing

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<v Speaker 4>that article and kind of putting his life into a

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<v Speaker 4>perspective for me. So I just wanted to say thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that means lots to me. Appreciate you saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's just, yeah, that was That's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't know him beyond you know, dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with him and his family through that process. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's hard because you could you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>just how much he meant to his family and and

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<v Speaker 1>some people close to him, and uh, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking a lot about them the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I hope they're doing all.

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<v Speaker 4>OKA appreciate No, you're welcome, thank you. Now that we

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<v Speaker 4>went to a sad uh, let's go back to something

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<v Speaker 4>a little more lighthearted and more funny. You had to

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<v Speaker 4>do fielding drills with Ron Washington, So I mean, walk

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<v Speaker 4>us through this because.

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<v Speaker 1>I got video.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what are we doing? What did you keep you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>God, now another guy who I'm missed too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give my you know, I'm on this platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just you know, give my best wishes

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. And I hope he's doing well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's he's out now with the health issue and

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<v Speaker 1>won't play. Won't me manage the rest of the season. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that was a really great experience. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's just you know, it's less about me

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<v Speaker 1>and more about just like the way Wash teaches and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just I think what what gravitates him

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<v Speaker 1>towards players, you know, and vice versa, and and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's he just got an energy to him. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>even at seventy three, even though he's going through all this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like you could tell like this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is who he is. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>the last line of that story. And and going through

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<v Speaker 1>that process, like man, I just I'm not a baseball player.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh probably have a very baseline level of athleticism. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like he just like was very encouraging,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like if you were messing up, like very

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<v Speaker 1>very very harsh. You know, I don't think he expected,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it to look like a big league level,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know of you know, field and ground balls.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if it wasn't the right way of

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<v Speaker 1>going about it, he would he would yell, he would curse,

0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.440
<v Speaker 1>he would get in your grill about it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's who he is. And and I think that's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something the team's missing right now. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope to hope he's healthy and gets healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, does what he needs to do to

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<v Speaker 1>uh get back on baseball field, because if that story

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<v Speaker 1>illustrates anything, it's that's where he belongs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we love wash. Wait he was chewing you out, Sam?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, oh, I love it. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great to.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear over under a number of f bombs during your

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<v Speaker 3>all the drills that you guys did, what do we

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<v Speaker 3>shout that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say about forty eight probably it was gotta be high,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Then afterwards, sitting in the dugout, he's smoking

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. He's just ripping, you know, his team and

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.720
<v Speaker 1>times were they were like on a seven game losing

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.359
<v Speaker 1>streak at the time, so it was, you know, he

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.560
<v Speaker 1>comes and again like that's he was willing to. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the first day after they had a long Roacher play,

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<v Speaker 1>lost every game and he comes out and does that,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool. Well, Sam, thanks for putting that together. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree that the Bobby Jenks work was amazing too.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're thinking of Bobby and the family right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sam, good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks god, Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care