1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: I think the Angels as a whole need to be 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: thinking a lot differently about their young players and about 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: building as an organization and being patient in that process 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: in a way that they just aren't right now. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Hey, we've got the athletic Sam Blum joining us right 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: now to talk a little Angels balls. This team is 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: still involved in the wildcard picture right now, and being 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: that it's July and we're almost at the trade deadline. Sam, 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: good to see you, by the way, I have to 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: start there. Do you think that the Angels will do 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: a little buying if they're in a similar spot now 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: to where they are two weeks from now. 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, I wouldn't. That wouldn't surprise me at all. I 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know if that some what they should do. I mean, 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: if you look at the aoilid card picture, like the 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: three games out right now, but they're I think tied 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: with like four other teams that have pretty much the 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: exact same record, and I think, you know, the Red 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Sox and the Mariners are tied for the actual spot 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: ahead of them, So they're really working with like five 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: or six other teams. You know. I don't think their 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: chances are amazing, but they're not out of it, and 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: we all know how the Angels operate, right, Like, they'll 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: be aggressive, you know that they never think about rebuilding 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: like there if they have a chance, and it's hard 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: to blame them, and they have them to the playoffs 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: in eleven years. If you if you have a chance, 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: it's you almost feel like you should take it. But 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, I mean, we saw the same 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: mistake they made two years ago by by going all 31 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: in and you know, instead of subtracting there and maybe 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: being in a better position right now, Uh, you know, 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: they decided to add and are in the spot they're in, uh, 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of fighting for a playoff spot and 35 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: over you know, I guess exceeding expectations, uh, you know, 36 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: in certain ways this season. So yeah, I think they 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: might if they're in this position. I don't know if 38 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: that means they should. You know, there's also scenarios where 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: they can kind of, you know, be a little bit 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: nuanced and maybe buying and smelling in certain different areas. 41 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm my guess is they would be aggressive 42 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: if they're within three games of the playoffs spot. 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: So I think this is a very different case from 44 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: a few years ago. I mean, you've got Otani there 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: at the finish line. Teams would offer a ton set 46 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: their franchise back a bit. I can only imagine if 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: they were able to land Jackson Merrill, who was apparently 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: in talks when they were discussing a trade option with 49 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: the Padres. Fast forwarding to now, Sam, do you think 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: the fact that the team hasn't been in the playoffs 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: for what over a decade at this point pushes them 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: to get a little more aggressive and take the chance 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: just because they are in the mix right now. The 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: American League, I think has been down over the past 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: couple of years. It still seems to be the case. 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: And don't you think that it would be a win 57 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: even if they get into a wild card and don't 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: win a game, but just to crack the playoffs with 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: the roster that they have and kind of send a 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: message that we're trying to get back on the winning 61 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: side of things one hundred percent. 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: If they can get into the wildcard win or lose 63 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: like that, you've this would be a map. I mean, 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: they lost ninety nine games last year, so this would 65 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: be an amazing turnaround if that happens. I think the 66 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: issue that you kind of have to grapple with here 67 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: is I mean, at least according to like Fangrafts, they 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: have about like a three to four percent chance of 69 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: even doing that. So I just to me, you got 70 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to be you got to be smart about it. You 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: got to be thinking about your future. They don't have 72 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: a ton of people to trade unless they want to 73 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: get like really aggressive in trade like a Joe Adell 74 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: or a Redebt Meers whose values are significantly up for 75 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: when they were maybe like a month or two ago. 76 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: They could they could go down that route, although I'd 77 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: be very surprised if they do ultimately, Like the guys 78 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: they really have are you know, like a Luis Rahifu 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: is performing better right now, at Euan Monkata who's back healthy. 80 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Who you know, a Kenley Jansen who I think part 81 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: of his value will depend on how much the you know, 82 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: how much of any of the contract they'll eat. But yeah, 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean they they if they're in that mix, right 84 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: like if they're right there, I agree with you, like 85 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: not having been to the playoffs in eleven years, I 86 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: think the overall mindset of the organization just as you know, 87 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of their their way that they operate would set 88 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: would tell me that they're going to be aggressive if 89 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: they have any sort of chance of making the playoffs. 90 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you that two years ago is different, 91 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: but it also isn't right like it's it's about just 92 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the way you look at, you know, your future, the 93 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: way you look at building as a team. I mean, 94 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: like they had a better chance to really build two 95 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: years ago than they do right now. But I do 96 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: think that what you've seen so far this year is 97 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: when you get good young players, when they when you 98 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: put them in a position to succeed, like there's a 99 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: good chance that they will. You know that a guy 100 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: like Zach netto No and Shaanowell, you know, those guys 101 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: have really really, really gotten better this year. I mean 102 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Shaanawell in particular, I think is you know, he's not 103 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: talked about in the same way as maybe some of 104 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the other young players, but he's in my opinion, been 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: their their best hitter the season. So it's you know, 106 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: they you've seen what happens when you when you give 107 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: when you get good young players, and I think it 108 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: should be an example to this organization of how they 109 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, need to be building and how they need 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: to be thinking, especially as they approach a trade deadline 111 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: where they might not have the best chance of making 112 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the posseason. They have a really tough schedule in July. 113 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: They tend to play better against good teams, so we'll 114 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: see what that means. But the next three weeks will 115 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: be interesting. 116 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Where are those pieces that they would fill in. Let's 117 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: say they get within two games on July twenty eighth, 118 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: what's the biggest need fill in piece that would push 119 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: them over the top and push put them in a 120 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: wild card. 121 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they just you know, I think with the 122 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Angels this year, I look at their team as like 123 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: they're not really bad in any area, but they're not. 124 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: They're not excelling in any area either. I mean they're 125 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: the only team in baseball that's used all five of 126 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: their starting pitchers, like they have not. They've only these 127 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: five starting pitchers, and it's been that that way the 128 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: whole season. They've been on rotation. It's been, you know, 129 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of anomalist to the way things typically go with 130 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, the US eighteen starting pitchers last year. 131 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think they could use another 132 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: starting pitcher frankly, I mean, you know, Tyler Anderson and 133 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Jack o'han witz have struggled a lot recently. Anderson's gotten 134 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: a little bit better in the last couple starts. You know, 135 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I think that that would be an area of need. 136 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can always use another, you know, solid 137 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: bullpen arm. Although I will say that I think that's 138 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: been more of a strength and that's partially what's gotten 139 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: the back in the mix over the last you know, 140 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: six weeks or so. 141 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: You know. 142 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: In the outfield, it's you know, I don't know, I 143 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you do in the outfield. I 144 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: think that they don't have any depth as an organization 145 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: in that position. But right now there are three starters. 146 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: I think like much sure he would take out I 147 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: mean Solaire's been having a really tough year. But I mean, 148 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: you said, a game winning home run last night, So 149 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I think you could use you know, another outfielder. I 150 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: think you can use in starting pa. I mean, they could 151 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: just use they can use just a little bit more everywhere. 152 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: But it's not like there's there's any glaring, glaring needs 153 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: as far as you know, the way I see it, 154 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, especially if Luis Ronhifo kind of starts performing 155 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: continues performing the way he has over the last couple 156 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: of weeks. 157 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: Hey, let's do a little player spotlight thanks to Arena 158 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: Club AJ give me a player this season that you 159 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: think is underrated and you might want to try and 160 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: grab his card. 161 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: James Would. I don't know that he's underrated, but Washington 162 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: National's superstar in the making, and the first Slab pack 163 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: I ever opened had him in it, his rookie card, 164 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: and the value is only going to go up and 165 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: up and up. And I'm not going to sell it 166 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: KWHI yet, Scott. I'm gonna hold on to it because 167 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: after he continues to hit big homers and put up 168 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: the stats make All Star teams, it's gonna get more 169 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: expensive for someone to buy. For me. 170 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: This is his first full season in the majors. Keep 171 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: that in mind. I think he's underrated, He's. 172 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: On a Nationals team that's may putting enough attention. 173 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: He might underrated. When he makes the All Star team 174 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: this year, They're not going to be underrated. That helps. 175 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: He's been intentionally walked four times in a game. Anyway, 176 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: if you want to try and find a wood rookie card, 177 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: go check out Slab packs on Arena Club and right 178 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: now you can get twenty percent off your first slab pack. 179 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: Or if you just want to go with a card purchase, 180 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: go to Arena club dot com slash f o U 181 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: L use code foul. If you buy, sell, trade, collect, 182 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: go for it. 183 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: Sam, you made me laugh, by the way when you 184 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: said jo Moncatta is healthy as a former White as 185 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: a White six fan. I mean that was kind of 186 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: like an oxymoron, is it? Mioal Moncatta is healthy? Like? 187 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: For how long? Is the is the real question? 188 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: We Yeah, he's been a line up for two days now, 189 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: so I guess we'll see what that he's due. 190 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: For, a back or a hamstring or something. I mean, 191 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: I hate to say that, but gosh, dang man, it's 192 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: been it's been a rough run for numerous years. Here, listen, 193 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: I get it. The Angels want to try it, but 194 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: they're not better than a lot of the teams that 195 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: are even equal or or ahead of them in the standing. 196 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: So they want to try and go for it. They 197 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: want to try and do this. You mentioned all the 198 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: position players. Is there a bat out there that they 199 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: could go get to plug in? Because you know, Christian 200 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: Moore is gonna come back. No one, no one, shod 201 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: Well netto Mancata. You have a HOPI they're young, they're 202 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: kind of a young core, right, so you wouldn't wanted 203 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: to stunt their development by going out and getting a bat. 204 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: I just don't know where you would put that back. 205 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm saying, Like, you know, like 206 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: right now, logan on Hopy has been not good, right, 207 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Like that's just you know, that's you could go out 208 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: and get another catcher. But I agree with you, Like, 209 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: what's what's the value in that? I mean, right now, 210 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I would say you're the best thing as an organization 211 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: that they can do is make sure Hoppy gets better 212 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: and you know, play them and you know, figure that 213 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: out for him. I mean that's like I agree with you, 214 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Like that's that I don't really see any value in 215 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: going and adding a ton of bad, you know, a 216 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: ton of offense. Rather, I mean it's you know, it 217 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: could go try to bolster the bench a little bit, 218 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, like I just 219 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: to me buying right now. I mean, unless unless, like something, 220 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: they get really hot over the next three weeks, it 221 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: doesn't make a ton of sense to me, And I 222 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: know that's just everyone's gonna say, like I just being 223 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, down or negative, But it's just I don't. 224 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't see it. You know, they they have a 225 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: lot of teams to jump, they have a lot of challenge, 226 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: they have a lot of challenges ahead of them if 227 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: they're going to make the postseason. And you know, there's 228 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: just a track record that would lead me to believe that, 229 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: like that's just not where this is headed. But you know, 230 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: maybe maybe somebody can clip this in two months and 231 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: make me looking at it and they did it, and 232 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: that would be great. I just don't, I just don't 233 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: see it right now. Their team is is good, but 234 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: it's getting there good, and you it's not there yet. 235 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: And and uh, there's a lot of flawed teams in 236 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: the American League, so they're they're they're in the mix. 237 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's just that I think that 238 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: the Angels as a whole should always, you know, right now, 239 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: should be thinking about what you can do to make 240 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: yourself better next year, what you can do to make 241 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: yourself better in twenty seven, to really build a foundation. 242 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the way they've been using some of 243 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: their their young uh, starting pitching prospects, bringing them up 244 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and just like putting them in long relief games. Wrote 245 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: outings like Sam Alde Garrett from Double A for one 246 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: day on Tuesday and through forty two pitches in an inning, 247 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: and you know, just let him get embarrassed out there, 248 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: and you know, send him back down to Double A. 249 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's the value in that? Like, I 250 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: think the Angels as a whole need to be thinking 251 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: a lot differently about their young players and about building 252 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: as an organization and being patient in that process in 253 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a way that they just aren't right now. 254 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: A few years ago, I played with Joe Adell on 255 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: Team USA, and somebody from the organization showed a scouting 256 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: report that they did own Joe Adell and they rated 257 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: him as a possible future Hall of Famer. It hasn't 258 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: gone that well for him since he's been up in 259 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: the big leagues. It was kind of a reach as 260 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: far as a report. But now that he had that 261 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: hot month of June with all those dingers, has Joe 262 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: Adele arrived as a guy who should be playing every 263 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: single day in the big leagues Versus righty's versus lefties, 264 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: versus velo versus spin. 265 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I mean I think that, like you 266 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: mentioned all the home runs, but to me, like what's 267 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: been most impressive is is the lack of strikeouts, more 268 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: more walks. I mean, he's taking good at it. He's 269 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: a hard guy to get out right now. Now, maybe 270 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: he's cooled off a tiny bit since that the last 271 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: couple of days, but for the most part, like he's 272 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: he's just putting really good swings on the ball. I 273 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: think the difference for him is, you know, he's he's 274 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: just not accepting that he's a strike he's that he's 275 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: just like a you know, a three tree outcomes type 276 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: power hitter. Right like he two years ago, I remember 277 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: him talking about he was just he was willing to 278 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: accept that he was he was going to strike out, 279 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: that was going to be part of his game. And 280 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think that he's doing that anymore. I 281 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,239 Speaker 1: think he's he's understood that he can be a real legitimate, 282 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, on base type hitter that also has power. 283 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: And I think you know, whoever gave you that scouting 284 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: report right like that was part of the partially what 285 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: they were probably open to see. And it's starting to 286 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: come together. I don't know if the Hall of Fame 287 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is is where he's headed or where he's ticketed, or 288 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, but I do think, you know, he could 289 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: have deserved an All Star and nod this year. You know, 290 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: George Springer might be would be ahead of him, you know. 291 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's probably a lot of debate 292 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: you can make over over the selections that they made 293 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: in the americanly outfield, but you know, overall, I just, yeah, 294 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: I think he's he's figured something out. Like he's he's 295 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: made himself an actual big league hitter. You know, We've 296 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: seen it in the past when he's gone on hot streaks. 297 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: He runs hot and cold quite a bit, and when 298 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: he gets hot, he hits a lot of home runs. 299 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: And I think this time around he's got he's gotten 300 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: on base a lot more, and he's actually looked like 301 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: a real major league hitter as opposed to someone who 302 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: can you know, square one up. 303 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: You know, every couple of days, Sam, It's well documented 304 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: that this team has made some disastrous free agent signings 305 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: over the years. We do not have to remind anyone 306 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: about those pain points. But I'm going to take it 307 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: to the other route. Should they be thinking about extension 308 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: talks with some of these players. I don't know if 309 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: they have had any open conversations. We have logan Al 310 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Hoppy on the show pretty frequently. I think we asked 311 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: him at one point and he said, no combos yet. 312 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: So between o'hapi and net Oh and Shannowell and maybe 313 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: even Joe Adele at this point, as you know, he's 314 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: had ups and downs and right now isn't a good spot, 315 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: and maybe they project him forward looking good. I think 316 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: he's only got a couple of years left of team control. 317 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: What would you do if your peramination and Ardie Marino 318 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: actually listened to you and you said, hey, can I 319 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: pick two guys here where we give them league market 320 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: extensions at the rate that they're at in terms of 321 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: service time? 322 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they missed the boat on this, 323 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: to be honest with you a little bit. I think 324 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: some of these extensions should have been thought about or 325 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: negotiated either before this season started or you know, last year. 326 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just it's tougher to extend 327 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: guys when they've kind of proven themselves as big leaguers 328 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and you know, they know their market's going to be 329 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: once they hit free agency, and it's going to be 330 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: probably more than you know, at least what the Angel's 331 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: recent history has kind of shown us. You know, the 332 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: Angels haven't really made a big free agent signing in 333 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: about five since Anthony were in doing I mean, they 334 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: just said they haven't, right like they've they think they're 335 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: max contract that they've handed out as Kikuchi this year, 336 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: that's three over sixty three year sixty three. So it's 337 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, they're not really operating as a big market 338 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: team in the last five years by any measure. So yeah, 339 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: I think they they probably should have done that. I 340 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: don't know if they're if those players are going to 341 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: be in their price range right now, I don't know 342 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: exactly if that's that's on the table right now. You know, 343 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: I think part of it is, yeah, talk about a hoppy. 344 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: Part of it probably is the agency, right Like, you know, 345 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: certain agents are probably more open to something like that 346 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: than others. But you know, the whole point of doing 347 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: that is extending you know that that that window that 348 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: you have for an extra maybe one two seasons before 349 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: they hit you know, the first you know, real free 350 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: agency of their careers and you have to incentivize that 351 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: in a certain way, and I just don't know if 352 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: the Angels are all going to spend that type of money. 353 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Perry wash like all these guys 354 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: came from Atlanta, where that's been you know, the method 355 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: of operation right, extending young players, and just haven't haven't 356 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: done that here. I think, you know, part of what 357 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: all of this you know, you know, you talk about windows, 358 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's an interesting conversation. I 359 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: think everyone looks at the Angels right now is Okay, 360 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: they've got some good young players, but those windows aren't forever, 361 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: and some of these guys are going to be free 362 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: agents before you really know it. And so you know that, 363 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that and just the calculus of how they push, 364 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: how they build, how they you know, think about, you know, 365 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: their future, if they're thinking about it in that context. 366 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: But I just and everything with the Angels is always 367 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: about the present, and I think that's probably why to 368 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: some extent, they haven't you know, pulled the trigger on 369 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: any sort of extension serious extension talk as of yet. 370 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: All right, Sam, I hate to do this to you, 371 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: but I want to just say thank you for the article. 372 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: You wrote on Bobby Jenks. He obviously passed away. We 373 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: talked about Bobby h and I want to say thank 374 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: you for the great article you put out about him 375 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: on the Athletic before he passed away, about him and 376 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: his family and in the challenges he was going through. 377 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: So nothing about the Angels other than Bobby came up 378 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: in the Angels organization. But thank you from me and 379 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: from my teammates and from Bobby Jenks fans for writing 380 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: that article and kind of putting his life into a 381 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: perspective for me. So I just wanted to say thank you. 382 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: That was it. 383 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: No, that means lots to me. Appreciate you saying that, 384 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just, yeah, that was That's a tough one. 385 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know him beyond you know, dealing 386 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: with him and his family through that process. But uh, 387 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know it's hard because you could you could tell 388 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: just how much he meant to his family and and 389 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: some people close to him, and uh, you know, I've 390 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about them the last few days. 391 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope they're doing all. 392 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: OKA appreciate No, you're welcome, thank you. Now that we 393 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: went to a sad uh, let's go back to something 394 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: a little more lighthearted and more funny. You had to 395 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 4: do fielding drills with Ron Washington, So I mean, walk 396 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: us through this because. 397 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: I got video. 398 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: I mean, what are we doing? What did you keep you? Oh? 399 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: Man? 400 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: God, now another guy who I'm missed too. You know, 401 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I want to give my you know, I'm on this platform. 402 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I want to just you know, give my best wishes 403 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: to watch. And I hope he's doing well. You know, 404 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: he's he's he's out now with the health issue and 405 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: won't play. Won't me manage the rest of the season. Uh, 406 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was a really great experience. And I think, 407 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: to me, that's just you know, it's less about me 408 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: and more about just like the way Wash teaches and 409 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: and you know, just I think what what gravitates him 410 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: towards players, you know, and vice versa, and and you 411 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: know it's he just got an energy to him. Man, 412 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: even at seventy three, even though he's going through all this, 413 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like you could tell like this 414 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: is this is who he is. I think that was 415 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the last line of that story. And and going through 416 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: that process, like man, I just I'm not a baseball player. 417 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: Uh probably have a very baseline level of athleticism. But 418 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, I like he just like was very encouraging, 419 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: but also like if you were messing up, like very 420 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: very very harsh. You know, I don't think he expected, 421 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, it to look like a big league level, 422 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: uh you know of you know, field and ground balls. 423 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: But you know, if it wasn't the right way of 424 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: going about it, he would he would yell, he would curse, 425 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: he would get in your grill about it. So yeah, 426 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. And and I think that's, uh, 427 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, something the team's missing right now. And and 428 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I just hope to hope he's healthy and gets healthy 429 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: and you know, does what he needs to do to 430 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: uh get back on baseball field, because if that story 431 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: illustrates anything, it's that's where he belongs. 432 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, we love wash. Wait he was chewing you out, Sam? 433 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh, I love it. I love that. 434 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: That's great to. 435 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: Hear over under a number of f bombs during your 436 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: all the drills that you guys did, what do we 437 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: shout that? 438 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I'll say about forty eight probably it was gotta be high, 439 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: you know. Then afterwards, sitting in the dugout, he's smoking 440 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: a cigarette. He's just ripping, you know, his team and 441 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: times were they were like on a seven game losing 442 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: streak at the time, so it was, you know, he 443 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: comes and again like that's he was willing to. It 444 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: was the first day after they had a long Roacher play, 445 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: lost every game and he comes out and does that, 446 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: so it was cool. 447 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: Very cool. Well, Sam, thanks for putting that together. And yeah, 448 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: I agree that the Bobby Jenks work was amazing too. 449 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: And we're thinking of Bobby and the family right now. 450 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: But Sam, good to talk to you. Thanks for the time. 451 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon. 452 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks god, Thanks guys. 453 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: Take care