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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle. Get him in a Huddle,

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Speaker 1: Get him in a Huddle, Get Him in a Huddle,

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Speaker 1: a New York Giants podcast. Hi, get everybody, I'm pulled

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Speaker 1: the team now and welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huddle podcast. Today we sit down and talk to

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Speaker 1: Giants legend of Mad Bradshaw, a seventh round pick out

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Speaker 1: of marshal in two thousand seven who played for the

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Speaker 1: Giants through the two thousand twelve season. He was a

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Speaker 1: two times Super Bowl champion. I want to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: welcome in a mod Bradshaw, So mad. When you think

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Speaker 1: back of your two Super Bowl championships here with the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, both very different in that in one,

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Speaker 1: you're a rookie and a role player. Number two you

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Speaker 1: were one of the main components of the title. How

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Speaker 1: do you view them when you look back? Is there

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Speaker 1: a difference or do they both kind of go to

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Speaker 1: the top of the mantel so to speak? You know,

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Speaker 1: my part I played in the second one, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I had a bigger role, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, more a part of the team

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Speaker 1: that year. Um, but just the role I played in

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Speaker 1: my rookie year, um coming in and and all the

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Speaker 1: all the incidences that happened with Derek Ward, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the injuries, and you know Ruben Jones was next in line,

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Speaker 1: and you know that I was third, fourth in line,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, not knowing if I would be

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Speaker 1: able to play that year, you know I'd come in,

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Speaker 1: you know, during the fourth fourth quarter of that game,

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Speaker 1: some of the games that season, so it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult. I would you know, I was

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Speaker 1: kind of successful in the fourth quarter, which you know

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Speaker 1: in the second Super Bowl was was bigger, but the

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Speaker 1: first one was more exciting. Well certainly a pride factor

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Speaker 1: because as you say, in that first one, you're kind

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Speaker 1: You know what they say, that's crunch time. It's who's

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Speaker 1: on the field in the fourth Well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: they used to call me sparky spark plug, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I just sparked the team back up

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Speaker 1: that's that's that was my role for that season. And

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Speaker 1: you know that's what just what I took advantage of.

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Speaker 1: You know, I remember it was when Justin Tuck called

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Speaker 1: you and Ward and Jacob's earth, wind and Fire and

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Speaker 1: that name stuck, uh and rightfully so, because that triple

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Speaker 1: pride in being able to do that. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we took pride in it because we loved each other.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, we gave each other, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just how much we trusted each other. Um, and we

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Speaker 1: tried to make the statement, you know, just you know,

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Speaker 1: It was a trend at that time that we felt

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Speaker 1: Um Brandon, you know he was he was a bruiser.

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Speaker 1: He took whatever was given to him. And you know me,

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Speaker 1: the things I always thought of made you're a low

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Speaker 1: pound for pound, you one of the toughest game day

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Speaker 1: he was pushing me. He'd all, you know, he'd come on, Brad,

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Speaker 1: of your stats, I think of the thousand you had seasons,

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Speaker 1: that day more than ever. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love to win. Um. You know Stat's stats weren't

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Speaker 1: ask you about some of your teammates quickly before we

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Speaker 1: get that get out of here. Eli Manning, of course,

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Speaker 1: the coin of defense for a second and kind of

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Speaker 1: play a long time. Bradshaw, it is always great to

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Speaker 1: see you. Thanks and continued success in whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that you do. I appreciate you for having me. That's

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Speaker 1: Giants running back leg, you know, Maud Bradshaw. I want

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