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Speaker 1: So I'll top off this story with my tale that

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this story? Maniac flyer viciously beats deaf,

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Speaker 1: listen to this.

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Speaker 3: This is horrible.

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Speaker 1: A brutal beatdown happened about two hours into a United

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Speaker 1: I heard these blood curdling screams, says one woman who

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Speaker 2: Is anybody going to do something? What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Was there no dude around to do something?

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Speaker 3: Attacking a sleeping man and beating him bloody. He's obviously

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Speaker 3: Do you remember Daniel Penny, the former marine who put

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Speaker 3: Two of them. Of his forty arrests were for assaulting

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, Neily had the synthetic cannaboid K two

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Speaker 2: It was, that's not shocking to me at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I worked at a bar where there were

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought I was being a good smart and

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Speaker 3: Well, now to ask or state what everybody's screaming at

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, it's clear.

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Speaker 2: And I'm muly been that's a minute.

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Speaker 3: I admire that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you see commotion going on, you're gonna get

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Speaker 4: in is that you know, are you gonna.

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Speaker 1: I think if you were more than a couple rows back,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you would have the slightest

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Speaker 3: That's right, I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But if you like, we were right there.

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Speaker 2: Like the roll behind them, like all these people that

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Speaker 3: Course sitting next to the guy. Oh, one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: agree with who.

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Speaker 1: Saw what was happening? The guy who's asleep and the

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Speaker 1: guy came up and just started being on him for yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you are.

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Speaker 3: Fully cognizant of it. But you know that's a fairly

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Speaker 2: Michael.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when we used to call Jack Captain Freedom?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Can we think of a fanciful scenario where the guy

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one.

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Speaker 1: Like he had just told him he was sleeping with

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Speaker 3: He's always been. You don't have this guy didn't take

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Speaker 3: any vows to hear your wife did so quit beaten

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, that doesn't work either. There's got to be

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Speaker 1: there's got to be one I could come up with.

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Speaker 1: He's the person who sexually abused you as a child,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'm trying to come up again.

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Speaker 3: Let the record show I've tried to lighten it up.

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Speaker 3: Now we're into child sex molestation, say something lighter. So

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Speaker 3: you were gambling on the plane, You're playing cards, and

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Speaker 3: he cheated, and while he was napping, you decided, no, no,

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Speaker 3: this is this is bad. Okay, So Captain Freedom, it

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Airport?

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an embarrassing story.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't remember it. That you saw guys,

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Speaker 3: Middle Eastern guys loads of truck.

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Speaker 2: Right, and he might have just been tan. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why would a Tan guy load a truck if not

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Speaker 3: for you know, Islamic supremacist reasons.

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Speaker 1: This was actually New Year's Eve in Las Vegas two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one, So this is months after nine to eleven. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I made the stupid decision of going to Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't even walk through a casino. There were so

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Speaker 2: Of the van.

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Speaker 1: That's why I called my one, Jack.

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Speaker 2: Yes he was.

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Speaker 3: He was protecting America, Katies, Captain Freedom, protecting America.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, God out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're staying at the room.

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Speaker 1: It's their luggage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it could be lots of things.

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Speaker 3: Oh Jack, Italian guys trying to get their luggage into

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Speaker 3: their their van. What's the matter, help me with the suitcase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my lowest moment. That was Captain Freedwey's most.

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Speaker 3: That's the sound we used to always play.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, I mean, I appreciate where you were coming from,

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Speaker 3: All, you know, at the risk of running a foul

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Speaker 3: of the tangent police tangent on a tangent on a tangent.

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Speaker 3: If you ever watched old timey TV shows and movies,

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Speaker 3: whenever they had to like portray Indians or Poncho Villa's

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Speaker 3: they're kind of sort of olive skinned and they'd layer

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Speaker 3: Italian Americans, you're like, that Indian chief's name is Demucci,

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Speaker 3: that's the actor's real name.

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Speaker 2: You're not fooling me.

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Speaker 3: So it's probably a bunch of a bunch of Italian

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Speaker 3: guys loo in Maasagna for their big New Year's party.

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Speaker 3: You brought the FBI on in the down on them.

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Speaker 1: Well, Happy Halloween, everybody, I guess that's it.