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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review podcast presented by

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Speaker 1: t I. A. A. Bank, J P. Shadrick. With you

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Speaker 1: today is Friday, April sixteenth, two weeks to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: We got the best of the week from Jaguars Broadcasting,

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Speaker 1: including Trevor Toaster Talk, d M. Trent Balky's history of

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Speaker 1: draft trading, plus the league's announcement of the off season program,

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Speaker 1: and give us the five start treatment. As always, Let's

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Speaker 1: start Monday with Jaguars Reporters the podcast with Ashman Sullivan,

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Speaker 1: John Osier and I. We got into Trevor Lawrence Toaster Talk.

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Speaker 1: All right, everyone asked Trevor Lawrence steaking with him? A

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Speaker 1: married man got married this past weekend to his lovely

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Speaker 1: wife Marissa. And if you don't follow, did you watch

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Speaker 1: it live on wring? Was there a life? I don't

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Speaker 1: think that. No. Rude right? John turned it down. I

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Speaker 1: thought for sure I'd be on the time. John was busy,

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Speaker 1: he couldn't make it. If you want to see great content.

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Speaker 1: Follow his wife on Instagram. She posts all the wedding picks.

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Speaker 1: You get all the details that way. Trevor posts very little,

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Speaker 1: which I think none of us are surprised by. He's

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Speaker 1: a guys guy. Yeah, you have enough time for Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Marissa does the huge takeaway. I think everybody's sort of

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Speaker 1: a Jaguars Twitter bought. Then the toaster awesome smart and

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Speaker 1: the flat screen. I mean that's fantastic. There's and as

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Speaker 1: much as you know JP, I mean JP is not

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Speaker 1: as all the I'm the old man, so I can say,

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Speaker 1: here's a social media it's it's it's the world, you know.

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Speaker 1: But for all the weirdness and sometimes negative things that

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Speaker 1: a in an incredibly strange interactive time or something like

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Speaker 1: this could happen for whatever. Jaguars Twitter, specifically Twitter in general,

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Speaker 1: forever toxic it can be. Sometimes this is an example

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Speaker 1: of how it's absolutely wonderful. So I guess they got

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Speaker 1: a toaster, so they got a vacuum cleaner, and then

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Speaker 1: the rest goes to a charity of Trevor Lawrence's choice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, which is pretty cool man. Seven. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: raised over As of twelve hours ago, they were over

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. It couldn't be more fun. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: What does a toaster not do? I guess it better

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Speaker 1: do everything? Of course, this will be in his lovely

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Speaker 1: home and better pull the toast out and dude itself.

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Speaker 1: It would be walking my dog. Yes, overall very cool

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Speaker 1: we're just congratulating King to be a good guy. That

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Speaker 1: Drama Jaguars Reporters runs Mondays on the Official Jaguars Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Now to Jack's Drive Time Tuesday morning. Early this week,

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Joe Cullen sat down with John Osier to

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Speaker 1: discuss the defensive scheme and much more. The reaction from Ashwyn,

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Speaker 1: John and Brian Sexton. One thing that is good, at

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Speaker 1: least for John Oser and Jaguars dot Com is we

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Speaker 1: got some type of clarification of what this defense is

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Speaker 1: going to look like. Defensive coordinator Joe Collins said, it

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Speaker 1: is going to look much more like a hybrid scheme.

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Speaker 1: It's not a set three four, it's not a four three.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be some in between. And John, that

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to take all this and fitted into it,

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Speaker 1: trendy thing to be nowadays. Is a hybrid defense, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Jags social media channels. Onto the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: NFL media analyst Bucky Brooks, John Ozan and I took

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Speaker 1: a look at Trevor Lawrence off the field and how

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence apparently is in the Jaguars playbook, according to

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Speaker 1: reports this week on NFL Network getting an early look

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Speaker 1: We want players to make the best decision and their

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Speaker 1: whatever decision that they make. You don't come out and

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous because you know what as a as a

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Speaker 1: There's guys that want to come in and work out

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Speaker 1: N E word. It's an assinine statement by the union.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say that, I just wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: that gonna make the union look It's gonna make them

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Speaker 1: they're doing. Now, last year, the union was marvelous, tremendous,

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Speaker 1: a big part of why the season went off and

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Speaker 1: in this entirety, but this year, big mistake. Jaguars Happy

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