1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome the Cannabis Talk one oh one featuring Blue with 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,159 Speaker 1: Joe Brande, the world's number one source for everything cannabis. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: number one source for everything cannabis. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: My name is Blue. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Alongside of me is mister Joe Grandi and Tony Cassai, 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: and you are now tuned into the greatest cannabis show 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: on the planet. 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: Tony tell us what's going down on the show. 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 4: Thank you Blue, and thank you guys for listening to 11 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: our podcast, Cannabis Talk one on one, heard all around 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 4: the world. 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He's 30 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: helped family from the show, entertainers from the show, celebrities 31 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: from the show. He does anything cannabis related, entertainment and 32 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: law of criminal defense. He's just a good guy. You guys. 33 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: Look him up online Vfoxfirm dot com with two exs 34 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: for Betty, I give him a call. Three one oho 35 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: eight seven seven fifty thirty three now blue on the platform. 36 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: Today we got a mind blowing technology and design brand 37 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: focused on perfecting the whole flower non burn experience. Beside 38 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: me and us here in the studio is the CEO 39 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: of Amura. This is a tech company that believes in 40 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: smoke for your world. They've created a line of patented 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: dryer vaporizers to pair with Amura flower sticks for a clean, 42 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: discrete and controlled vaporization experience. 43 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: It's just the best way to ingest cannabis. Just talking 44 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: about it gets me excited. Brother, and you know this. 45 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: I cannot say that this is my forte or expertise, 46 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: but I'm excited to hear about this. Super bumped to 47 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: meet this gentleman. If you guys want to know more 48 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: about it, check it out Amura dot com. That's omu 49 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: are a better fall him on Instagram at a More 50 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: as well. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, put your 51 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 4: hands together for the CEO of a More. Mister Mike Simpson. 52 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: How you doing, man? 53 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 5: I am doing very well. Thank you. Thanks for having 54 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: me on the show. 55 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man. Is that a British British action. 56 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 5: Is in England? England very difficult accentershift. 57 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: I actually knew that one he walked in was the rock. 58 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Actually I thought he was the rock when he first walked. 59 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: So did you come all the way from England here 60 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: to see us? 61 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 5: I did know. I came all over from Santa Monica, which. 62 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: Is far here in California. 63 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: If you know, you know? 64 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so listen, so tell us about yourself real 65 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: quick man. Where are you from with your background and 66 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: you know kind of schooling you have? 67 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll try and go fast. 68 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 6: From the north of England, I actually worked on the 69 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 6: oil riggs when I left school, So I'm pretty kind 70 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 6: of a very ordinary background, or a rough ground for 71 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 6: proper redneck groff. And then I read some books on 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: positive thinking and realized you could do anything you want 73 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 6: in the world. Went back to college, got a couple 74 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 6: of degrees in industrial design, worked in the toy industry 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 6: for a number of years. Started a design office for 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 6: Lego Toys in Tokyo, came up with their number one brand, 77 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 6: left them because they wanted to bring me back to Europe. 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: I didn't want to go back to Europe. I was 79 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: loving Japan. 80 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 6: Started working with British American tobacco on next generation reduction technologies. 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: Farm reduction technologies. 82 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 5: Everything non combustible. 83 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 6: Interestingly, be it t You'd asked me if I knew 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 6: any science fiction writers, and I knew Sid Meade from 85 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: my Lego days. I don't know if you know Sid Meade. 86 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: He desired bladering and tron and alien's film sets. Wow, 87 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 6: Yeah he was. He was a living legend. He was 88 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: a visual futurist across various industries. So I employed Sid 89 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 6: to talk about what the future of the tobacco industry 90 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 6: was going to be and would you believe it was 91 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: all about vaporization and non combustible technology. 92 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty cool. 93 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: So he asked him that question years ago from a 94 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: consulting standpoint, just wondering what his hout take was. 95 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: I paid a handsome sum of money to. 96 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: You know. 97 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is. 98 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Uh I When I was a young lad, I uh 99 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: i uh I actually uh uh came up with something 100 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: called oxygen sticks. You know. I used to tell my 101 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: dad because he was smoking so much, and I'd be like, yeah, 102 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: stop smoking. And I said, I'm gonna make you a 103 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: flavored oxygen stick that just has good stuff every. 104 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Time you hit it, you know. And uh, you know, 105 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: lo and behold the vape industry. And at that time, 106 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: none of that. 107 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: Inside of a to give you an idea of of 108 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: you know how far it was back it was. 109 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: We weren't inside. It wasn't Blockbuster, it was uh what 110 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: was the one Hollywood video? No, the one with the 111 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: music the CDs? 112 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: Know the studio, the studio when they used to sell 113 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: CDs inside the Tower Tower Records. 114 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like got Tower Records and whatever the other ones were. 115 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: But and I was walking through there, and I was 116 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: telling him, you know, because he's like, I gotta go 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: out a singerrit And I'm like, Dad, I'm gonna get 118 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: you a vapor sing And then I started calling it, 119 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, uh, a vapor and this and that, and 120 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: my dad was like, you know whatever. And I kept 121 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: telling my brother, We're gonna make oxygen sticks. We're gonna 122 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: make oxygen sticks flavored one strawberry whatever fabe you like, 123 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: so you can hit that all day and uh, you 124 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: know then I woke up and they were here. 125 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: Well look at that. He didn't have to pay that 126 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: lad somebody. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And you know, he's 127 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: being really modest to you, by the way. Man. I mean, 128 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 4: he starts in the you know, in the oil rig industry, 129 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: which is a whole other vertical. Then he's going to 130 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: Lego and toy design. Then he's working for this massive, 131 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: uh you know, European or British tobacco company. And then 132 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: now this product that he's come out with. Dude, from 133 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: a business standpoint, to have as many patents and to 134 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 4: create the technology he's created, you know, from a non 135 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: consumer of vaporizers, everybody that I've talked to just loves 136 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: this product. 137 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: Brother, can you. 138 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: Talking to your mike, because like, yeah, you're doing this, I'm. 139 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Like, are you are you? Do you have a show here? 140 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Usually my production guy he said something he seems happy. 141 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: He's not there. That's that's not him, that's not him, 142 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: that's the wrong guy. 143 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: So so listen, I mean, before we go into the 144 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: functionality of it, all right, you know why cannabis? 145 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: You know why this product? I mean, you know what 146 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: is it? Like? 147 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: I mean, how come you decided this industry? Is it 148 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: just because a new emerging or what brought you here? 149 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 6: It's a very good question. There's a couple of answers, 150 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 6: if you don't mind give me a minute. What brought 151 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 6: me here was? I said, I was in the toy industry. 152 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 6: He sold my toy company to a Malibu based toy 153 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 6: company around ten years ago, which brought me from Tokyo 154 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 6: to work in Santa Monica. 155 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: Basically, I'm stuck here and it's a difficult. 156 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 6: Place to leave. This is where the rock stops rolling. Basically, Yeah, 157 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 6: I'm got a Japanese wife who's not going back to Japan, 158 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: and my kids are brought up in Santa Monica. They're 159 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 6: not going anywhere. That's Anyway, I was designing apps for 160 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 6: Disney for a few years, but I was actually seeing 161 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 6: on the ground that people started winding their own box 162 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 6: mods and mixing their own e juice, and all of 163 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 6: these shops they started popping up, and there was people. 164 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 6: The people would be signing a pack of cigarettes and 165 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 6: leaving it on the shelf, and that would be the 166 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 6: guy behind the County would be an evangelist who always 167 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 6: had a big long beard, wh would have smoked sixty 168 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 6: cigarettes a day, but their lives saved. Their people have 169 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 6: wrote the name down saying that's the last cigarette I 170 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: ever smoked, and they've been a convert to vaping now. 171 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 6: So I started working with Beat again, even though I 172 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 6: was you know, you know, I was in the current job, 173 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 6: but I left my toy job to get back into 174 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: the industry because I could see that future that we 175 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 6: didn't visage with sid Meat almost a decade before it 176 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 6: was actually starting to happen. I was really pumped by that. 177 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 6: So I was researching the ecig industry, all of the 178 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 6: box modes and all the technologies and all of the 179 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: brands out there, looking for potential acquisition targets for beer 180 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 6: t And then that somehow rapidly moved into researching the 181 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 6: cannabis industry. Obviously it's pretty illegal in various parts of 182 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 6: the world, but even big tobacco, they needed to find 183 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 6: out what was going on. So even though I'd used 184 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 6: to smoke a lot of weed when I was at university, 185 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: I'd lived in Japan for a decade, so that's pretty 186 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 6: much a no weeds country, you know. So there is 187 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 6: really kind of a resurgence of getting back into cannabis 188 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 6: and then for the first time really understood you know, 189 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: how the you know, medicinal properties of cannabis and seeing 190 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 6: you know, how many people's lives it was changing. So 191 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 6: first I was now seeing on the ground how good 192 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 6: cannabis was. Part of my job was researching not just 193 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: the trends in the evolution of the industry. I was 194 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 6: also looking at potential acquisition targets for dryer vapor companies. 195 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 6: So I was buying every single vape out there. Literally 196 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: bought two hundred bigs exactly, I've got I've got a deck, 197 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 6: but you've got an hour too. 198 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: I used to fly to the UK. 199 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: I really want to see it like a museum. 200 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: Oddly, you know, if it got to the stage where 201 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 6: I knew too much. I knew all of the technologies 202 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 6: and all the vay prizes. I knew why dry was 203 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 6: the best way in my opinion, to consume cannabis and flour. 204 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 6: But I also knew what the trends in the technology 205 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 6: industry were. Products what they call heat not burned products, 206 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: which are little sticks like I was, surprisingly enough, which 207 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: contained a nicotine or tobacco and the heated with an 208 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 6: electronic device. One of the most famous ones is called 209 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: ICOS for I Ordinary Smoking by Philip Morris. It's been 210 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: it's launched in all other countries. It was about to 211 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 6: launch in the US. So I created a mirror to 212 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 6: come out right out behind it because there was going 213 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: to be this new technology in tobacco about heating it up, 214 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 6: giving you the vapor and the nicotine, but without any 215 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 6: of the castinogens or the combustibles. Unfortunately, there was a 216 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 6: patent dispute between bat and Philip Morris which prevented the launch. 217 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 6: So I've been trail blazing with a mirror with this 218 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: product as a heat not burn product in cannabis. 219 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: And that product in nicotine, that that was not a 220 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: competition to draw or like where it's a liquid. 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: This was actual nicketine. 222 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: It's a really good question. 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, as you as you've seen what's happened to the 224 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: vape industry. I mean literally, they've blown the doors off 225 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 6: and every man in his dog can get a vape 226 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 6: out of Shen's end now and sell it anywhere. And 227 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 6: even though the rules are a little bit there, we 228 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 6: say patchy. Basically, there's they're very few restrictions and a 229 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 6: very low barrier to entry. Big tobacco wants it to 230 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 6: be a higher barrier to entry. And making these heat 231 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 6: not burn sticks it's a very expensive process. So a 232 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 6: lot of big tobacco companies are actually favoring the little stick. 233 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: It looks like a mini cigarette, but you don't set 234 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 6: fire to it. It's a lot healthier because it just 235 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 6: heats it up. So this is one of the. 236 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: Does it have a device like yours or is it 237 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: just its own stick? 238 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: It's very very similar. There's an electronic device. 239 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 6: All the big tobacco companies have got a heat not 240 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 6: burned product and they have a consumable which is heated up. 241 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: And it's the same concept. You just heat the what 242 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 6: they call a substrate in a tobacco stick. The substrate 243 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: is tobacco with nicotine, but in cannabis it's pure, pure flower, 244 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 6: so it's kind of unadulterate. 245 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: Bigger in Europe. Is that a bigger market, right? Huge? 246 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 6: It's huge in Europe, and it's it's huge in Asia 247 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: as well. It actually launched in Japan, took twenty percent 248 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 6: of the entire tobacco market, so it's huge. 249 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: It's about to launch in the US. 250 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 6: Is here now because the plan dispute has been resolved, 251 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 6: so of course and other heat not burn technologies will 252 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: be launched in the US. 253 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: It'sbody fantastic for you. 254 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be perfect for me because it was my 255 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 5: intention in the beginning. 256 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Correct, But that's okay. 257 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 6: Sometimes the journey is a little bit longer. 258 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: It's never that easy. It's cannabis talking a moment. When 259 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: we come back, I want to learn more about more. Yes, 260 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: we'll be right back after this break. 261 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: Follow me at one Christopher Wright. 262 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: Follow Joe Grande at Joe Grande fifty two. Subscribe to 263 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: our weekly newsletter on our website, Cannabis Talk one on 264 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: one dot com. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on 265 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: one Number one. 266 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: Yo Blue are you looking for a quickie? What, my man, 267 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: I have to talk about quickie pre rolls. Dog check 268 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: them out quick quickie prerolls dot com. You guys, that's 269 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: quickiprerolls dot com. Everybody loves a quickie better Yeah, check 270 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: them out on Instagram. It's QUICKI pre rolls. That's worth 271 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: three says at the end. Everybody loves a quickie. Now, 272 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: my man, we are now here with Mike Simpson, the 273 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: CEO of this fascinating device called the Amura. I can't 274 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: wait to see what you got and walk us through 275 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: the products of God brother. 276 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: Hey. 277 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 5: Thanks, So let me give you a little bit of 278 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: background about the technology. 279 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 6: As as I'd mentioned, I was researching all of the 280 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 6: different devices out there, from the Volcano or the stores 281 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 6: and Bickles products, these packs, the Arisa. 282 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 5: So I was getting really familiar with the different technologies. 283 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 6: So we we we created what we believe. 284 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 5: The best way to heat the whole flower up. It's 285 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: a dual convection conduction oven. 286 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 6: So whilst there's an element inside the oven that heats 287 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 6: the oven wall the outside of the stick, the actual 288 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: core technology is in a why a filter inside the 289 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 6: oven which has got a high thermal mass and a 290 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 6: high surface area, would you believe, So when you draw 291 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: a through and past this thermal mass, it doesn't cool down. 292 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 6: It's actually the perfect temperature every time. So that's key 293 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: to why our vaporizer is very efficient. And we've tested 294 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 6: the flower before and after being used in the series 295 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 6: X and it boils off over ninety nine percent of 296 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 6: the cannabinoids, so the efficacy is actually very high. And 297 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 6: there's only a very tiny amount of flower inside our 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 6: flower sticks. 299 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: So it doesn't actually burn from the front to the back. 300 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: It burns directly through the whole thing at all times. 301 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: It's a good question. 302 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: Now the whole thing's kind of warmed up, but it's 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 6: only when you pull on the stick that you drawing. 304 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: From the front of the back it does actually pull. 305 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 6: There's a gradient of heat that works through the sticks 306 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: over a three and a half minute session. And because 307 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: we know what the contents of the stick are, we 308 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: had the luxury, I would say, to be able to 309 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: optimize the oven to the stick, so it's married kind 310 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 6: of perfectly to it. So rather than just with a 311 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 6: lot of vaporizes, you choose a temperature Shang, we actually 312 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 6: have a temperature curve, so it starts off lower and 313 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: it warms up through the session, so you get a 314 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 6: real rich turpeene flavor at the beginning and it doesn't 315 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 6: start tasting bitter, and then it gets to the optimum 316 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 6: temperature towards the end of the session. So it's basically 317 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 6: you try to last the flavor full session as long 318 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: as possible. 319 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: If you stop halfway through the session and start back up, 320 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: is there any kind of difference in taste or can 321 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: you kind of put it down come back through to 322 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: four hours. 323 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 6: It'll not be as good, you know, if you think 324 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: about the joint or a cigarette, if you go back 325 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: to it, it's never as good the second time. 326 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: Right enough, you know, so you the whole thing. 327 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: If you're get to get involved, I think you've got 328 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 6: to finish the job. I mean inside these sticks, if 329 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: you see it's it's really only like a you know, 330 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 6: slightly larger than a one hitter. It's only seventeen milimeter cavity. 331 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 6: Sorry to go the metric system. 332 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: Then take a couple of hits and then throw it out. 333 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: You basically can get around eight to twelve HiT's off 334 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: it over a three minute session. 335 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like it's like you haven't enjoying it, 336 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, m hm hm oh really, h so you 337 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: just experienced it? Which one was it? 338 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: Was it? 339 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: This? 340 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: Oh? Nice? Sol? I tried it last night? He absolutely, Yeah, yeah, 341 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: we had it last night. 342 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: And the. 343 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: Freaking memo dude. Yeah, I love how they just beat 344 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: around me. Dude, this is blue. That was one thing 345 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: that's fascinating about this, and that's mine. 346 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: I learned this from you, and actually, and I think 347 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: it's a it's a fascinating from a business standpoint, the 348 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: matturization of your business because they're actually five years old. 349 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: But he started by providing it with flour and prepackaging, 350 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: and because of the regulations I've learned from you that 351 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: product can now be available in any smokes and anywhere, 352 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: and the legislations last, the shipping's better. So it's just 353 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: an amazing model. Because you're a hardware company, You're not 354 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: a flower right, Yeah, you. 355 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Know, And I actually I like that a lot as well, 356 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: because I think, you know, it's it's why I'm in ancillary, right. 357 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: Ancillilary businesses, you know, in the cannabis industry are so 358 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: much easier than touching the flower. For now, you know, 359 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean, and so you know, if you get in now, 360 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: you're trying to touch the flower. It's you've got a 361 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of red tape and hoops to 362 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: jump through and regulations and everything else whereas this product here, 363 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: it can go into every smoke shop across the country. 364 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: It's just the rollout. Who are you going to roll 365 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: it out? 366 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 6: And beyond the Oddly enough, as you can tell by 367 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: my accent, I am quite international. Sure, I'm kind of 368 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 6: familiar with what's happened near the markets too. We just 369 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 6: launched in Europe last year and just launch in the 370 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 6: UK only a couple of weeks ago. 371 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 5: To Europe and UK are now separate places as you know. 372 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just launching in Australia over the next couple 373 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 6: of months too. So the interesting thing about having a 374 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 6: plot form is you can literally, you know, go in 375 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 6: any territory and we don't bound by any kind of 376 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: you know. 377 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: Same like our radio show and eighty countries on air. 378 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, believe it or not, it's 379 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: we have more followers than the other countries. But you know, 380 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you you know, are you are you right now? 381 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: You know? 382 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: Because I think the US is probably going to be 383 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: your hardest market to tap into because you know, the 384 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: US doesn't typically smoke like the the uh, the the 385 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: style and and and when you when you know or 386 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: explained it previously to me, my thought was, you know, 387 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: I've seen in other countries them hitting these kind of 388 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: devices before. 389 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 390 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 5: It makes all the sense in the world. 391 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's normal, but it's tobacco though, it's not even 392 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: cannabis totally. 393 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 6: So when I knew the I Cours was going to 394 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 6: be launched in the US, that's when we scheduled our launch, 395 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 6: and then there was that pattern dispute that prevented the launch. 396 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 6: When I do, like the Mary Jane Show in Europe 397 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: all the time to say icos for cannabis, get it, 398 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 6: I love it. In the US, people see it and 399 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 6: they're interesting, and you need to educate them, tell them 400 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 6: about the process. But again, the icos and other heat 401 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: not burned products in tobacco will be launched in the USS, 402 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 6: so that barrier will be eventually that will be broken down. 403 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: So speaking about educating, if somebody has now heard this 404 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: and they're excited, they want to go get the device, 405 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: what's the devices they get and how do we pack 406 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: it and what's the process. 407 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: Great questions, Thank you very much. So we have two devices. 408 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 6: One is called the Series X. This is this one 409 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 6: here which is this shape, and there's also a cylindrical 410 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 6: device called the Series one. This one retails are around 411 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 6: one fifty dollars and the Series one retails around seventy dollars. 412 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: They both. 413 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: You can leave that one as the sample that we 414 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: were talking about. 415 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: It will be left. 416 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: All of our devices we sell as a complete bundle. 417 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 6: So we actually sell it with a home fill system 418 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: and four packets of empty flowers sticks as well. So 419 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: whilst you can fill the flowers sticks individually by hand 420 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 6: by just grinding some flower in the grinder and just 421 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 6: actually pushing the flower stick into the grinder and compressing it, 422 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 6: we also have this home field system whereby you can 423 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: slide the sixteen pack into the system and the holes 424 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 6: all aligned perfectly, and you put ground flower in the top, 425 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 6: you tap it a few times, put some more flour in, 426 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 6: and then you push the flowers through the tamping plate 427 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: to compress it into the flower sticks. And it's that 428 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 6: compressing that actually prevents the flower falling out. But It 429 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 6: also gives us the stick a known amount of draw resistance, 430 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 6: which helps it smoke consistently too. 431 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: Okay, so can I get one of the sticks with Yeah, 432 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: I want to check it out. 433 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: And then, you know, I think that, you know, it's 434 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: a it's interesting because I'd rather carry that around right 435 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: this lot because I'm accustomed. I smoked for many years 436 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: of cigarettes and this is right up my alley. It 437 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: makes me feel like that, you know, I'm and it's 438 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: cannibi but no, it's just it's actually it is cooler 439 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: because you know, you're not getting smoke, right, it's a 440 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: it's not real smoke. It's vaporizing it, you know. So 441 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: it's a better way to ingest cannabis if you know, 442 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: you know, like I mean, I grew up you know, 443 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: with volcanoes and many connoissewers of cannabis, and everybody knew 444 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: it's vaporizing is the best way, right, I mean, it was, 445 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: it was the way. 446 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 3: Well. 447 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 6: Another thing that's really interesting, and it's kind of a 448 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 6: little bit counter kind of culture. A lot of people 449 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 6: in the cannabis industry really like to say massive clouds 450 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: and if you're doing a dab or you're doing a joint, 451 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 6: you get a really big cloud. But with ther mura, 452 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 6: because it's only the vapor, you'll see if you pull 453 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: it into your mouth and you let it go, you 454 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: see a plume of vapor go. 455 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 5: And if you actually hold it in your lungs, you 456 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: exhale a very small amount. 457 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: And if you think about ventilin, when you do an 458 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 6: asthmir and halo, you breathe nothing out because it's really efficient, 459 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 6: and the bioavailability of vapor is actually so much more 460 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 6: than smoke. When you breathe that big cloud of smoke 461 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 6: out after a joint, you're wasting cannabinoids. You just literally 462 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 6: go up in smoke. So the efficiency of using heat 463 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 6: not burn in the mirror system is actually very high. 464 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 6: You said bioavailability. Bioavailability the actual particle size of the 465 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 6: paper as it's as it's kind of taken by the 466 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 6: body that's fascinating as your poker. 467 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, thank you. That's a nice little I mean, 468 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: I like this. 469 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me of like you know, when 470 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: you have a magnum or a gun and you've got 471 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 4: to reload the bullets. Like he's it's almost like a 472 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: little bullet automatic bullet filler. If you're trying to do 473 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: all eighteen at the same time, right, this is yeah, yeah, 474 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 4: that's it's eighteen of them in sixteen. 475 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 6: So we designed it for sixteen because in the European market, 476 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 6: two grums is a very popular amount. So it's two 477 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 6: grums of flower filled sixteen sticks. 478 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, well done. 479 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: Now, if there's a flower company that's looking at this, 480 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 4: and I'm saying, obviously you have the patents, you're protected, 481 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: they can't copy it, but would you license this to 482 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: them and now provide what we do is option. 483 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: We don't rebrand the product. The device is always called 484 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: a morox, it's ther morror platform. The sticks themselves, the flowersticks. 485 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 6: We rebrand the flowerstick packaging with the flower companies branding. 486 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 6: That's what we talk about. Obviously, all the other lab 487 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: information and the THC and all of this stuff. 488 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think from a business to business standpoint, you know, 489 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: that's one of the things we pride ourselves on here. 490 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 4: And I think there's so many vertical segment states you 491 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: can hit part parts of the market. And like he's saying, 492 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: I love the hardware approach because there's tens of thousands 493 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: of smoke shops compared to dispensaries. And if I'm not mistaken, 494 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: you can ship that product all fifty states because it's 495 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: purely our hardware devisors. 496 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 3: Is that is that accurate? 497 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: That is the case. 498 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? Now is this a privately held company, family owned public? 499 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: It's a private acty, it's privately owned company. 500 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 6: But we've had multiple rounds of investment, So there's other 501 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 6: people on the on the cup table. 502 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: Are you looking at taking in more dollars to go bigger? 503 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: Are you guys pretty much well capitalized? We're always looking 504 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 4: at options. 505 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: That question always put on people's faces. There don't know why. 506 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: As you know, in business, there's always multiple different things happening, right, 507 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: and we're always in talks with either cannabis companies or 508 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: tobacco companies or distribution companies, or on new rounds of investment. 509 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 6: So and as you know, as I've alluded to, we're 510 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 6: really scaling quite rapidly in various countries at the same time. 511 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 6: So clearly we're under resourced to do that. So that's 512 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 6: where capital will come in useful. 513 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 514 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 4: And you know, as we've discovered on the show, all 515 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: money is not good money. And I'm sure that you're 516 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: going through that? Is there a perfect next level for you? 517 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: Guys? 518 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: Are you looking at it? Sounds like you're already going international. 519 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: You already are international? What's the next iteration. 520 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: Of the company? Or where do you see you're going 521 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: in the next twelve months. 522 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 6: I think we're going to be mainly focusing in the 523 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: near term, in the next like six months, in the 524 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 6: European market because as everyone in the European market gets 525 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 6: the AMURA because of the ICOS. Shortly after the mid 526 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 6: part of the year, the ICOS is going to be 527 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: launching in the US, so we'll be more focusing on 528 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 6: the US distribution, but we'll be teeing up those partners 529 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 6: and relationships in the next few months anyway, And sorry, 530 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: on the device, when you put the stick in, it 531 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 6: takes it around thirty seconds to heat up and then 532 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 6: it will vibrate. Thened, sure, you just put us and 533 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 6: you check it up a little bit early. 534 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: Well, check this out. It's Cannabis TALKO. 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Break No, it's great. 558 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: It was your first reaction. 559 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: Well again, you know, I haven't vaporized in the wild, 560 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: to be honest, I normally just smoked the flower and 561 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: but growing up, you know, I I hung out with 562 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: a lot of friends that that we've all vaped, you 563 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 564 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: We did the volcanoes. 565 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: And the different vaporizers devices that that that have came 566 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: out in the past, and you know, it was certainly 567 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: the best cleanest way to to to smoke, you know, 568 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: And so it brings me back to that, you know, 569 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: it brings me back to that. Like, like I said, 570 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: I I'm pretty stone on stone already. I've got one hit. 571 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I took things. 572 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: I took a couple of little hits that and then 573 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: I just took like really like a pretty decent size 574 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: one because I don't I don't want to get too ripped, 575 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 576 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: Like Daniel, you said, it happened smoke normally when you 577 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: see the smoke, like I can point smoke, I know 578 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: what I'm blowing out. 579 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: You know, That's what I said. 580 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 6: You actually retained most of the vapor inside. The bioavailability 581 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 6: is actually very high. 582 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 3: Well, you also get higher living with this, right, this 583 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: is this. 584 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: One hundred percent get the full entourage effect. And I 585 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 6: think that's why I'm a big fan of the flower. 586 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 6: You know, smoking was another great way to get the 587 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: full entourage effect, but you always got all of that 588 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: smoke that was hanging around after it. So I mean 589 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 6: I I highlighted that all of these vaporizer was doing 590 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 6: a great job, you know, some of them better than others. 591 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 6: I like convection technology of a conduction, for example, But 592 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: every single of the device in the market had a 593 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: build up of residues in the in the airpath and 594 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 6: the mouthpiece and you had to you had to dig 595 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 6: the flower out when it was spent, and it was 596 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 6: just It's a gross kind of procedure. So I wanted 597 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 6: to create something that was convenient, like a vap pen, 598 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 6: but kind of hygienic, you know, like a like ther 599 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 6: moura basically. 600 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 4: Define that difference between combustion and what was the other 601 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 4: word to use a combustion convection convection. And to your point, 602 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 4: I had tried that volcano and I remember when I 603 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: held it kind of give me a burning feeling. Is 604 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 4: that because there was a different type of burn in 605 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: the way that it's burning the flower or is this 606 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: a smoother feeling compared to the volcano. 607 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 6: I think if there's any big difference, the volcano has 608 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: got a very large chamber. It's a serious piece of kid. 609 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 6: The volcano. 610 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big hit. 611 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: And our thing is you know I mentioned it. It's 612 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 6: like having a glass of wine, having a large glass 613 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 6: of wine. If you want to have a second flower 614 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: stick or a third, we'll go to. 615 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: The volcanoes, like like drinking the whole bottle of wine 616 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: in one hit exactly. 617 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: Sometimes walking down the street with the bag of. 618 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: It, do you know what I mean? Like it really 619 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: is like a future. 620 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: It's almost like hit it because and it's it's this 621 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: is why I'm taking my time with it, right, because 622 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: when you say that about the volcano, I think, yeah, 623 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: when we were young, everybody's like. 624 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take the whole thing a volcano. 625 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: Well you have to imagine it filled that whole bag 626 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: of you know, which was massive amount of amount of cannabis, right, 627 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: and and it's in your lungs and one hit, Well, 628 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: this is this is more controlled. 629 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: This is more of a like a vape. You hit 630 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: it and then it's you know. 631 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: But but I I was still careful because of that experience. 632 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: Right. I don't want to I don't want to get ripped. 633 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 634 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of just getting really too high. 635 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: I smoke very little, but I'm okay with you know, 636 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: hit a little bit and give. 637 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 4: Them the experience and to I remember the story you 638 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: just told about the signing and the and the packs 639 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: of cigarettes, and I'm grateful that there's products like this 640 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: because that's I feel like it literally saves his life. 641 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: I mean, as much as we love him, it's like 642 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: he would smoke and smoke, and now he's you know, 643 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: knock on wood, permanently quit And it's devices like this. 644 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: And I've noticed you're you're smoking a little bit throughout 645 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: the day. But I think it's it's curbing the nicotine edition. 646 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Right this, this right here is great for people that 647 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: have a nicotine addiction, right, I think just you know, 648 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: because when I see it, I you know, I I 649 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: someone broke out a cigarette outside and I was like, oh, 650 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: I want one, you know, and then I but I 651 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: know myself, I can't have it because I can't have one. 652 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not like potato, Oh goddamn thing. 653 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: You know, so you know right now, but this is 654 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: That's why I'm very interested in this is because it's 655 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's cannabis and it's vaporizing. It's better for 656 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: my allungs. It's better for you know, and and it's 657 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: this is more my style, you know. And I've seen, 658 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: like I said, in other countries many times, even in 659 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: airports and stuff. People use these in airports, you know. 660 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well in the Japan especially, you're not allowed to 661 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 6: smoke cigarettes inside. You are allowed to use icos, so 662 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: heat not burned inside restaurants is allowed. So is it 663 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 6: a clear kind of differentiation there? 664 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: So people love them? Then they can go to the 665 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: restaurant and hit it. They can go out and about 666 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: and hit it and and stuff like that. Listen, you 667 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: know how long did the new the new mine come? 668 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Did you bring the other one to the first version? 669 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 6: I didn't bring to the version. I just brought this 670 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: this sample here. It's been out for around two two 671 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 6: and a half years. 672 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 673 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 6: I think we actually launched kind of in the in 674 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 6: the middle of the pandemic. Not the best time launching 675 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 6: any business. 676 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: That's never the best surviving. 677 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: It means we came out quite strong. 678 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: Are there products that you're rolling out? Is there a 679 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: third inneration? What do you have? What do you have 680 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: in the pipeline. 681 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: It's a really good question. 682 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 6: We've actually got ceramic sticks in the pipeline that are 683 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: sampling right now, So they're reusable sticks. They come with 684 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 6: a little silicon blocking filter and you know, like a 685 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 6: pop a point pencil and you put one silicon blocking 686 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 6: filter in. It pushes the previous one out and the 687 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 6: flower along with it. So it's a self self cleaning 688 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 6: system as well. 689 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: Fascinating. Yeah, wow, that's to be interesting. So that's just 690 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: one that just it's. 691 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 5: It's the same size, same format, same wall thickness. Even 692 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 5: ceramic is a really kind of solid material. 693 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: Is that for for a different smoking effect or people? 694 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 6: Some people want to reusable stick. People who are wanting 695 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 6: it for medical benefits as well want the purity of that. 696 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 6: A lot of people like the paper stick because you 697 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 6: can just throw it away. This is what they call 698 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: SFC Rainforest friendly paper, so it's a sustainable paper and 699 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: so you can just throw this out away every time, 700 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 6: and it's it's totally by degradable and fostible. 701 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: So and let me ask you this. If I leave 702 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: this in here, I forget to take it out and 703 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: turn off on its own. 704 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 6: It does the session runs out after three and a 705 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 6: half minutes, So I advise you use it while you 706 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 6: can use it, I'll lose. 707 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: It story before we let you go. 708 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm actually excited to do the High five of five 709 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: with you because you're a world traveler, and these answers 710 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: are going to be really interesting to hear, because sometimes 711 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: I can already tell that it's gonna be fascinating. They're 712 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 4: not going to be the typically answers we hear. So 713 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you the first question, Mike, how old 714 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: were you the first. 715 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: Time you smoked? And where did you get it from? You? 716 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: I'm too ill to remember the first time, but I 717 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: would have been around eighteen. I'm going to say seventeen eighteen, 718 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 6: post night club probably actually, now I think about it. 719 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 6: It was around a friend's uncle's house, and I don't 720 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 6: remember the evening, but it was around that time. 721 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: It was that good exactly. 722 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: Question number two of the High five, what is your 723 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: favorite way of using cannabis? 724 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: Boringly, I only use the amura. 725 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: I love that. 726 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: I love whole flower, and I'm actually a light weight. 727 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 6: I've got quite a lot of tolerance, so the mirror 728 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 6: is perfect for me. 729 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: That was perfect for me too, Like I just took 730 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: a couple of hairs. 731 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm high. I didn't want to get too. I don't 732 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: like to get to you know, and I like to 733 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: know what I'm doing. 734 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a long drive ahead of me too. 735 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: My question number three is what's the craziest place you've 736 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: ever used cannabis or. 737 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: Smoked or smoked cannabis? Craziest craziest place. I can't answer 738 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 6: that question, but I've had many too many good experiences. 739 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: I'm going to say, I'm going to go back to Glastonbrie. 740 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 6: Let me putting myself in Glastonbrie when I was in 741 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: my early twenties. It wasn't necessarily crazy, but it's just 742 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 6: a lot of fun. 743 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: I love how all your answers go way back. Question 744 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: number four of the high five what is your go 745 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: to munchie after you get high? 746 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 6: Now I'm going to go back again back to what 747 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: I was doing. You used to do a stick burger 748 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 6: special at my local kebab shop that was to die for. 749 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the munches. 750 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: Does this give you a different kind of mounchy or 751 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: is at the same level of monkeys from smoking a joint? 752 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a It's I always have questions. 753 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: About I think I think you get higher with with 754 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: with uh, you know vaping, I mean, you know, horizing. 755 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a higher it's a it's a different potency, 756 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: I think because you're getting getting getting the full spectrum 757 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: of the of the plant, like you're you're you're baking 758 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: the plant versus burning it. Yeah, you know, so it's 759 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: more natural. It's a deeper it's a deeper relationship I 760 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: think with it. 761 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: It's a good way. 762 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: It's like a slow cooked you know, uh, you know, meal, 763 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: meal in versus the Yeah. 764 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 4: Question number five mics, if you could smoke cannabis with 765 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: anyone yet or alive or alive, who would it be? 766 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: And why? 767 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to go Bob Marley just because that would 768 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: be a lot of fun. 769 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, listen, man, I mean I'm excited to try 770 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: this product. I was gonna I was gonna hold myself 771 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: off because I have a longer driving out a long 772 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: last night. 773 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: But I'm excited still love my car was getting four 774 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: tickets today out here from us. 775 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 2: So listen, is there anything else that we left out 776 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: that you want to bring up about the product before 777 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: we let you get out under here? 778 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 5: That's everything, guys. I really appreciate the time on the show. 779 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you very. 780 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: Much, No, thank you. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. 781 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: To remember this if no one else loves you. 782 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: We do follow Cannabis Talk one on one on all 783 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: social media and Cannabis Talk one oh one. Thank you 784 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue 785 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: with Joe Bronde, the world's number one source for everything cannabis, 786 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: and make sure you like, follow, and subscribe to Cannabis 787 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Talk one on one now