1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Huh, then you feel at home. Yes, come on, look 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: at that. We were rocking out. When I have a 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: guest of the show, when I have somebody who's sitting 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: in helping us out, I like to make them feel welcome, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I like to change the vibe a 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: little bit. But this is Eyes up Here, and you're 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: listening and watching the brand new Eyes up Here exclusively 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: on Patreon as well as the Creative Control Network. If 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you didn't know by now, my name is Chad and 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: every single week I'm usually here by the host of 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the show, Queen of Extreme Franccene. But we have a 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: hand picked guest host. That I mean I probably would 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: have suggested you at some point, but suggested and hand 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: picked by the Queen of Extreme Francine. If you don't 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: know the music in the background already, it is one 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite people on planet Earth, my man, the 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: greats Kevin Ferdick. Thank you so much for having me. 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: And uh that music brings back lots of memories, not 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: gonna lie. Uh back back in the day house shows 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: and stuff. The Spirit Squad used to rave to that music. 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: They would come meet me in the tunnel. I was 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: about to go out and and have their own little 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: rave before I went out, because they thought it was 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: that yeah fun. So there you go a little little tidbit. 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very uh, you know, of the moment, 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: right of that with two thousand and six ish era, 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: right whenever they composed it. It's got that uh what 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: was that What was that vampire movie out at the time. 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Was it Twilight or whatever? Twilight? Yeah, there was Twilight, Yeah, interview. Yeah, 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: it was all kind of yeah, very very of the moment, 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, man, you know, Francine loves you. Always talks 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: about the time when if she talks about as she 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: calls it, the fake easy Dub, and she talks about you, 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: she always uh says so wonderful things about you, and 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, in the fact that you and I are buds, 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, she always says like it's nice to know 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: that good people know each other, and she always says 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: such good things about you. So handpicked by the Queen 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: of extreme absolutely and then if you know, people have 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: been falling along with the Queen of extreme down and 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Orlando right now, she's you know, the doing the Star 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Wars tour I think today, so you've following her closer 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: than I am. I was trying to give her crap 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: for filling in, but no, I'm just kidding. So, yeah, 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: she's a Disney freak. You know. I've been down to Disney, 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of times over the last few years. 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: I hadn't gone from ninety nine to twenty nineteen, but 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: then we went three times I think in the last 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: four have you gone at all? So we went, Man, 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I went years ago, my daughter I think was four, 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: my son but around eight nine somewhere in there. It 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: had a blast and stuff, but I really wish some 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: of the new stuff was there, like Tron. I mean, 54 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: my son and I've watched Tron. I can't tell you 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: how many times together, really, Oh god, yeah. And then 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: same with like Star Wars stuff and all that. But 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: Tron was like a big, big movie. I mean, we 58 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: watched that when he was I want to say it's 59 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: probably four I mean religiously almost every night. I mean 60 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to the point where I've got a lot of it memorized. Huh. Now, 61 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the original Tron right from the eighties, no, no no, no, no, okay, 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the remakeer, but we I mean we did watch the 63 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: original Tron also, Okay, of course, all right, because I 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: was gonna say, because that original Tron I was awful, 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: then I hate that. I can't believe the opular I mean, 66 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the new Tron was totally awful, Okay, but you know, 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: for a four year old, they thought it was the 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: coolest thing ever. And you know what, that's one of 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the memories we have of all the movies we've watched. 70 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say we've we're probably like 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: ninety something movies together. Are more uh my son and 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I Right, So I mean we've I mean we've seen 73 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: them all, done them all, and all this stuff, and 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, now it's interesting to watch him, you know, 75 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: give his take on what movies actually are. It's pretty 76 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, you've come a long way from him just 77 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: being impressed by sitting in like the big chair and 78 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: getting a popcorn right oh yeah yeah, yeah, definitely full 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: of popcorn and you know, give him slashies and all 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. When I was there this 81 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: past summer and the two hundred degree heat in like 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: late July or late June, early Jai, we saw Tron 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: being built in the distance and I was like, geez, like, 84 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: we're you know, like nine months behind, this massive thing 85 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: being built, and here we are on the goofy runaway 86 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: trainer of the hell it was. I'm like, but we 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: want to go there? Like, well, I want to get 88 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: in that thing. But it was an incredible structure. And now, yeah, 89 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: it's opening. I think right after is it? Is it open? Now? 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Did it just open this week? I think it's open. 91 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta ask her. I should text her, 92 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: but I don't want to buy. Yeah, we should text 93 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: her right now and say, hey, we're ruining your show 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: and give I gave her minors show updates. I don't 95 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: want to bother, you know. I just said, you know, 96 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Kevin's coming up. We're all good, and I gave her 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: some guest updates and you know, rock and rolling. But yeah, 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: she's been playing this trip forever and it's you know, 99 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: it's their thing. I mean, you know, people have their things, 100 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I I I love people that 101 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: they can do it. I I'm we know, for three days, 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: that's enough. It's like Vegas, Vegas in and out. There's 103 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: only a couple of days and then you got to go. Yeah, 104 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 1: we did the three days. We even did the Hogan Shop. 105 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: We went, we drove the Orlando Hogan Shop, went in 106 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: and it's small. It's like the size of this room 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm in in my basement. It's like, you know, this 108 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: this size room. You go in. There's a ring in 109 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: the middle, a couple of shirts. You go out there. 110 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: We're in the Hogan Shop. Back to the Disney World. Okay, 111 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: three days, you're gone. She's there for two weeks. She's 112 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: down there for two weeks. Yeah, But I mean they 113 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: do other stuff. They go, right, you know, they do 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: other stuff. They're family about town, so what are they 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? But what else? What else is going on 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: in your world? Mister fancy realtor man, you got your 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: realtor title belt there, you've got your kind about my 118 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: sign back here. Just you know, trying to you know, 119 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: use as much as this publicity as I can. Yeah, really, 120 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: just you know, it's January, the market's here, everything else, 121 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out and uh you know, 122 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: uh as I say, uh uh, you know, say the 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: champ is home with with with a lot of new 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: clients and buyers and stuff like that. But I mean 125 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: business as usual, you know, totally was totally blessed for 126 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: the wrestling stuff that I had and then I mean 127 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: and being able to use kind of kind of that 128 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: into the real estate stuff. I'm having a blesst awesome. Man. Yeah, 129 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: I know you your career is taking such a turn 130 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: from slamming yourself and others down to the mat to 131 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: slamming people into their homes and changing their lives. It's 132 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to see, uh, the transition you've gone through. 133 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: But like, what's your favorite part of getting somebody into 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: their dream house? Is it like the the build up 135 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: to like them picking it out. Is it there like 136 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: first day in the house, or they're like fulfillment afterwards 137 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: where they're like so excited and actually living in it. 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: I think it's there fulfillment afterwards and then you know, 139 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: getting you know, text or whatever afterwards of them just 140 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: you know saying hey this is what we did. Oh man, 141 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: you know you were so right on, hey let's do this, 142 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: or you know kind of the vision, you know, the 143 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: vision you helped us with. I think that's that's what's cool, 144 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, and seeing you know, the family memories when 145 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: you know Howween happens or Christmas happens, you know, just 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: the decorations and stuff, like that that they they do 147 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: to make it, make it their own, you know, I 148 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: think I think that's always the coolest part. And then 149 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: when they realized that their realtor is this massive, giant 150 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: man who definitely is not like, you know, every other 151 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: realtor that they could have selected or been connected to, 152 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: when does that usually hit the I mean probably at 153 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: the start, once we do it start, you know, going 154 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: seeing the houses and stuff. But I mean towards the end, 155 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it gets to be such a 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: friendship and everything else that I mean, I'm just I'm 157 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: just a normal guy, which is so weird because they 158 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: tell all their friends, you know, I've been over to the 159 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the parties afterwards, you know, uh uh you know, a 160 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: new house, you know, come come to our house. Everything 161 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: else they're like, oh, this is our realtor, and everybody 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: there's you know, acting like it's such a big deal. 163 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: And then with me with uh, you know, me and 164 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: the the couple, you know, whoever's owned the house and stuff, 165 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: we're just like b f F and it's just nobody. 166 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: Nobody's like they're like you talk to him like that, 167 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like we're we're literally having fun. I mean 168 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much. Once you break the ice. The 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: rest of the time, it's it's super easy. They just 170 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: like they just go like this and then they realiz 171 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: is that you know, you're you know, you're funny. You know, 172 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: you like to joke around, and I think that that's 173 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: like something that kind of catches people off guard. They 174 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: think you're going to be super serious. But you know, yeah, 175 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure they they it's a relief for them though, 176 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm sure they want you to tap 177 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: into the seriousness at the negotiating table. Well that that 178 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: always happens and stuff. I mean, you know, it's I 179 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: wish I had the negotiating skills that I do now 180 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: when I was with w W. I'll put it that 181 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: would it would have it would have been a lot different, 182 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, sitting across from Vinnie Mack maybe yeah. Well, 183 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, hey, listen, it's a different world. And uh, 184 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: I think you've done a great job with your career. 185 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: But we'll transition. We'll talk a little bit about the 186 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: wrestling world and we'll get back to the realty a 187 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: little bit later on Big Week Wrestling. It's been it's 188 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: been a big last like six months and wrestling with 189 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff going on, and we'll talk about everything, 190 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: but I want to talk about most recent stuff. Raw 191 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: thirty was this past week. First of all, crazy enough 192 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: that Raw is thirty years old, because I can't believe 193 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: that thirty years of Monday Night Raw is a thing, 194 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: because I remember it just starting. I remember not even 195 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: wanting it to happen, because I used to love the 196 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: format of the original shows where it was just squash 197 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: matches in an arena and them sitting in a room 198 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: talking about I love that. But Raw thirty, Can you 199 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: believe it's been that long? It was pretty pretty crazy watching, 200 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: you know, because I remember Yo vaguely, you know, the 201 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: raws with the Ico pro and everything else, and you 202 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: know in the bar like stuff like that, you know, 203 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: as being the first. And then when Raw kind of 204 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: hit its heyday, I was running a Golds gym in 205 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Memphis and I was kind of the next manager at 206 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: the time, so I didn't get to watch it other 207 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: than you know, sound off, you know, and on the 208 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: treadmill acting like I was talking to a client, you know, 209 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: talking to somebody and you know, smooze them over and 210 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Now, those guys would always come through 211 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: and work out at the gym and stuff. But I mean, 212 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, back back in the day, you know when 213 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: the Monday Night Wars happened and you know all that, 214 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: it was pretty much for me kind of sound off. 215 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I got to see it, you know, 216 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: on the TV, but didn't you know, didn't really you know, 217 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: get to hear the excitement and you know everything else. 218 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, you look back, I mean 219 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: thirty years. I mean, good God, in this business, I 220 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: mean that's that's huge. Yeah, it's incredible, and it's funny too. 221 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, for as long as you were in the 222 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: WWE system, you were usually married to the other side. 223 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: Though you were either linked to the SmackDown and e 224 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: c W which was linked to SmackDown still, but you 225 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: had to go to the raw side. You did. You 226 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: did have to go to tapings. You were backstage for 227 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. What was the raw vibe like 228 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: because SmackDown I mean, you know, granted still a TV taping, 229 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: but raw live. What was the TV environment like at 230 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: a raw uh? Fanatical? I mean, you know, always kind 231 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,479 Speaker 1: of kind of crazy because you know, you had a mastermind, 232 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: lunatic running the show. And that would change change things 233 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: at a whim and stuff like that. And and two 234 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: I think you know at that time kind of when 235 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: I was there, is it wasn't the same raw where 236 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: we where they knew they were going to go and 237 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: just just destroy numbers. You know. Uh kind of kind 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: of the point where I was there, you know you're 239 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: talking about yeah, as a as a as a whole, 240 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: there was too much TV to watch. You know, we're 241 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: just getting all all the cable shows, We're getting all 242 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: this other stuff. Uh, you know, I think ratings were 243 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: a little bit down, so it's like, all right, what 244 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: can we do to you know, burst burst the ratings tonight, 245 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: you know kind of thing. And they've and they had 246 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: already kind of done it, so you know, it was different, 247 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: different than that, But I mean, yeah, definitely fun. I 248 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: mean I always liked it on nights that we take 249 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: E c W on those you know beforehand on the 250 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: on the Monday nightnings. Right, just different, just a different 251 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: you want to get out of the way or one 252 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: night early, get it out of the way. Did you 253 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: get a chance to check out any of this Raw 254 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: thirty show? Uh? I watch it, Uh, like I do 255 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: everything now on the treadmill. The next day at the 256 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: gym I work out at, you could do YouTube and 257 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: there's some highlight WW Monday Night Highlight or whatever, and 258 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, sixty sixty minutes, but it's just the 259 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: really good clips of everything. So I kind of watched that, 260 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 1: but I never watched it on sound, and I really should. Yeah, 261 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: but I can only imagine that. You know, Ron Simmons said, 262 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: damn that Chad did whatever he did, and you know, 263 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: some stuff I saw, I was like, all right, you know, 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: this is an ode. I thought there should have been 265 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: more people. There was a lot more people that think, 266 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, it should have been on that that contributed 267 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: raw and stuff that are out there and aren't with 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: a major company that you know wouldn't have you know, 269 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: costat friction or you know, given others publicity. But at 270 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I mean, you know, maybe 271 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: that forbidden door should have been opened, you know, as 272 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: they say, just because it's thirty years or raw. I mean, yeah, 273 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: it gives everybody, hey, we were here, we did this 274 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: and everything else. It was weird, you know, it's it's 275 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: they go to the list. I liked what they had. 276 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan kick off the show and he did just 277 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: a general welcome. I thought that was perfect because it was, 278 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, ninety seconds to two minutes. It got the 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: crowd pumped. What would you have would you have really 280 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: said that Hogan was what made Raw? It was No, 281 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't, but he was at all. No, but he 282 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: was there. He was technically there, you know, three months 283 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: after it launched. It wasn't on many of them at 284 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the beginning, but then you know, when the nWo was 285 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: brought back in two thousand and two, the one I actually, 286 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my favorite Raw main event of all 287 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: time is the nw O versus Austin and Rock. Oh absolutely, 288 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: you know. And then yeah, one of their I think 289 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: one of their biggest ratings of that era. So like, 290 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: he's got but they got him out of the way, 291 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: so they put him on the intro of the show 292 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: and that's it. But they go right into this segment 293 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: with the bloodline and Sammy's Ain. They call it the 294 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Trial of Sammy's Ain. It was originally supposed to be 295 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: a very Samoan geared segment. And this is the weird thing. 296 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: So they said Afa and Sicca couldn't travel to be 297 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: at this thing. But I guess Off and Seco don't 298 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: live in Pennsylvania anymore, because this show was in Philly. 299 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: I thought they lived in Pennsylvania. I thought too, So yeah, 300 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: so that was weird. RAKESHI apparently is not feeling very well, 301 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: so he couldn't travel, so they had to change the 302 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: booking on the fly and to this trial thing. I 303 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: don't watch raw. I watched it because I wanted to 304 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: see Hogan. I wanted to see some of the segments. 305 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: I have to give them a lot of credit. This 306 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: trial of sammy'se Anything was the best wrestling television I've 307 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: seen in ages. It was compelling, it was well written, 308 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: it was what everybody played their part really well. And 309 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: if you do watch it, I would suggest check it out. 310 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: It was very well. I mean I watched them but 311 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: without any volume, And even without volume, I'm following along. Yeah, 312 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, I keep my music on and and kind 313 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: of watch and it's still you could still, you know, 314 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: get a vibe of what's what's going on. I mean, 315 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: I think they're killing it. Uh, you know, all those 316 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: guys are just insanely talented. Everything else, I mean, you know, 317 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: the family history there there's no reason why they ever 318 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: not be talented, you know, with the with the with 319 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: the bloodlines they have so so definitely I would I 320 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: would say that that's I mean, you know, I read 321 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: something online or oh they took up too much time, 322 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: so this this match or that match got But you 323 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: know what, they're the main event. I mean, they're they're it. 324 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're what will sell you know, WrestleMania, 325 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: and everything else will be whatever Roman Reigns does with 326 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: whoever what he does. They get the time, you know, 327 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: and they deserve that. They deserve the time because I 328 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: mean they're keeping you glued to the TV. So yeah, 329 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: I got a huge rating. And you know it's funny, 330 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: like I mean, everybody wants to talk about Sammy Zayin's 331 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: his great wrestler, and he's you know, they're not showcasing 332 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: and wrestling. He's he's showing better personality than if they 333 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: put him in the ring. People are more into him, 334 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, making jokes than if he put him put 335 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: him in his tights. Yeah, he's so talented, it's ridiculous. Uh. 336 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: But then so then the show, I mean, to me, 337 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: after that, I mean, the Undertaker comes back as the 338 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: American bad ass. I thought that was a great, you know, 339 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: little segment. It was got a huge pop. Apparently I 340 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: saw the clip like you did on online because I 341 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: tapped out after the Bloodline segment. But then yeah, I 342 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: think it kind of went down and you know, they 343 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: did the d X thing and yeah, which is so 344 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: overdone and so whatever of all those guys, and I'm yeah, 345 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: you know me, I'm a huge Billy Gun Yeah, because 346 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: he's he's like my brother there. It's just I don't know, 347 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, like you know, we're gonna bring 348 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: those guys out, you know, and have them face to 349 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: face this and we're gonna do nothing to me. It 350 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: was It's weird. I should have listened to it, I guess, 351 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: but it's silently watching it. So here's what they did. 352 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: I'll explain what they did. They you know, uh, road 353 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Dog did the whole spiel, but when he would go 354 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: to Billy's part, he turns and it was kurd Angle. 355 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Kre Angle says I always wanted to be in d 356 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: X and reveals he's got a d X shirt. So 357 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: that was how they did the nod to Billy, right, 358 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: But you're assuming everybody a knows Billy at this point 359 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, if you're a younger audience, you 360 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: might not even know who he is, if you don't 361 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: know the history of the business. And then you're also 362 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: assuming that they watch a W and know that Billy's 363 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: on a W and that's you're then you're telling yourself 364 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: that only this number of people are watching both products. 365 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: So I just think it's weird. It well, well too 366 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: many times, and assuming both the fans know both sides 367 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: of the product, I don't know, very weird, but DX, 368 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: it's so lame. It was lame then it's it's even 369 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: more lame now. It was revolutionary then now it's it was. 370 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: It was good, but just trying to be yeah, it's 371 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: come on, let's you know, let's let's move on. It 372 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: was cool, but it was like it was the the 373 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: nWo had that little bit up, you know, it was 374 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: and like what sewn Shaw Michaels left the group. It 375 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: was like when Shawn Michaels there, they had that edge 376 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: because he was such a dick. He gave them the 377 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: dick edge. When he left, they had that more goofy edge, 378 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: which you know people liked. But now they're just kind 379 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: of corny. It's a legit corny. All right, I'm daking. 380 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm just giving my piece, you know. That's that's that's 381 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: just me. But okay, so that was raw thirty. So yeah, 382 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: like you said, you you felt there could have been 383 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: more legends that were outside the box than the same 384 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: ones that they bring back. Yes, I tend to agree. Otherwise, 385 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, WWE's on the road to WrestleMania. The Royal 386 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Rumble is coming up. I can't not ask you about 387 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: your Royal Rumble experience. Royal Rumble two thousand and seven. 388 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I just watched it just to prepare for you coming on. 389 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: I believe you enter after Chris Benoi, who then also 390 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: I was, I was number twenty one. According he also 391 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: dumps you out acording to the Net Today, and that 392 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: was sixteen years ago according to the Net Today, because 393 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I got reminded of that this morning when I you know, 394 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: got on Twitter or whatever else, uh, you know, which 395 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah, I mean, I mean wrestle you know, 396 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: wrestling and Royal Rumble, Wrestling, Madison Square Garden Wrestling, and Mania. 397 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean those are all things that you know, you 398 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: try to check off as a you know, as a 399 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: wrestler of things that you know, you have to you know, 400 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: do you know, to say that you've made it this 401 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: business so absolutely, I mean you know, and then you know, 402 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Chris Chris bin Wall putting me out may probably never 403 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: be seen because of whatever. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, but 404 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, it was definitely a fun experience, 405 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, and when you look back, you're like, man, 406 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: I did that, so it's pretty cool. But what I 407 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: love about it is just the sheer beef in the ring. 408 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's just oh yeah, I mean we would 409 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: squash every a w fucking talent out there with what 410 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: was in that ring. You know, that's not knocking a 411 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: w I mean they've they've got a crap ton of talent, 412 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: but those I mean it's you know, a lot smaller 413 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: generation of wrestlers and stuff like that. I mean, when 414 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm to sixty five and I'm in that 415 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: ring and I'm small, I mean comparatively to what really 416 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: is out there, that's saying something. I mean, that's that's 417 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: that's pretty insane, you know. That's that's kind of like 418 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: the funny thing now is you know, yeah, people you know, 419 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: going and showing the houses, people asking questions, going to 420 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: different functions with kids, you know, my children and stuff 421 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: like that. You know, everybody's got questions about wrestling, and 422 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you had to be one of the biggest. No, 423 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, not even in the ring that I was. 424 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I was small to medium at best, you know, even 425 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: at sixty five. I mean, you know, going in the 426 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: locker rooms back in the day, I mean you just 427 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: sit there and be like, holy crap. I mean that's 428 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: big boys. But you know, but it's funny. But when 429 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: they launched E c W, and you know, and they 430 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: put you in there with your you know, different characters, 431 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: so that when they were trying to branch out the 432 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: different personalities. The thing about that ECW is that it 433 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: was kind of a hodgepodge of guy. So you were 434 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: more of a standout in terms of your size with 435 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: that group. But then if you lumped in then the 436 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: rest of the SmackDown roster, No, then you definitely started 437 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: to move down the size chain. I throw you in 438 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble. No, in that ring. When you run 439 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: in the ring, you're you know, you're probably maybe like 440 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the eighth biggest guy in the ring. Yeah. Yeah, And 441 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean you think about ECW back in the day. 442 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there wasn't any big, big guys. 443 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Hayman took what he had and made it, 444 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, elaborate. I mean, you know, you look at 445 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: a Taz. Taz is never huge, but you know the 446 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: way that uh you know, I still I still remember 447 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: I was in Memphis and Taz was coming down for 448 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Memphis Championship Wrestling because we were kind of developmental territory 449 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: at the time, and he was there to wrestle uh 450 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: uh Jerry and meeting Tasks for the first time, and 451 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: I was like, holy ship, you're small like I was, 452 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: you know, like oh and oh you know, but I mean, dude, 453 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: his demeanor and everything else. I mean he was ten 454 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: foot tall and bulletproof, just like the rest of them. 455 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: The way the way, you know, the way he ran 456 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: himself and everything else, which was which was so cool. 457 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: And I mean I think that's that's why e c W. 458 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, you know, Fran Scene 459 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and all those guys, I mean, they they you know, 460 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: they did it is because they presented themselves as you know, 461 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: ten foot tall and bulletproof. No matter what. Yeah, you know, 462 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: that's and it's pretty cool. Yeah, No, it's a that 463 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: was different. And they only the biggest guy they had 464 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: up to probably like ninety six was nine to one 465 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: one and he was I think six ' six among them. 466 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, he was the big show or you know, 467 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Andre the giant. He was massive. Because I mean Taz 468 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: is probably my highest probably like five seven. He's not 469 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world. So you know, nothing 470 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: against people who are five to seven. I think I'm 471 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: a great height. So yeah, but I stand next to 472 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: you and it's not not the tallest guy. But yeah, 473 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: so now that's a great thing to go back and watch. 474 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Listening to the commentary is always something I'd like to 475 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: go back and listen to because I always wonder, is 476 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: it the big guy telling them what to say? Is 477 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit of a little commentary being thrown 478 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: out there. It's Lawler. I believe Taz maybe Jr. On 479 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: commentary for this one. Lawler gets law was very complimentary 480 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: of you when you get in there throwing some haymakers, 481 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: you know, and obviously the history with Memphis, so you know, 482 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, did Jerry you know, did you guys 483 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: have a relationship with w W E or was it 484 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: just kind of passing by when you were at the shows. Uh? No, 485 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jerry always remembered me and everything else. 486 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Jerry's Jerry. You know, Jerry looks out for Jerry, you know, 487 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: which is is whatever. But no, I mean we we 488 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: always had a good relationship. I mean every time I 489 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: was in the ring, he always made me look bigger 490 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: than life, you know, and it would take care of me, 491 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: you know up there. I don't know, I mean, you know, 492 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: he was always just kind of the commentator everything else. 493 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, with Jerry, I think he always looked out 494 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: for his position in Memphis and stuff like that, and 495 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: another kid from Memphis coming in. You know, I don't know. 496 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, you had Brian at the time, you know, 497 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: depending on where Brian was in his life, if he 498 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: was going to be around or not. And I mean 499 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Brian took care of me too a bunch of times, 500 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: right just you know, uh Dark matches, Jack matches, stuff 501 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: like that. I mean I would be paired up, uh 502 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, in tags wrestling him and Scottie, and I mean, 503 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, Brian would always you know, do stuff to 504 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: make me look good and you know, take care of 505 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: me and tell me to calm down and stuff like that. 506 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, as a whole you know. 507 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Jerry definitely, you know, never did anything but 508 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: nice things for me, I mean, with within reason. So 509 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking. I was thinking maybe that 510 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Memphis kinship, maybe he was just looking being a complimentary 511 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: one of his Memphis boys. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, 512 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: and at the time, you know, I think, you know, 513 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: who knows, they might have had ideas for me and 514 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: everything else, and I made it. You know, He's end 515 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: up seeing what happen, I guess. I mean, I got 516 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: a spot me and Shelley, you know, grabbing a lottery ball. 517 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean you know, yes, I mean that was extra 518 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: that was extra airtime. I mean really yeah, yeah, that's right. No, 519 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: that's right. Actually, and I did see that too as 520 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I was scanning through the going to the to the match. 521 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: I have to yeah, I also have to. I was 522 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna pull it up. I had the picture. I got 523 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: to give you credit as I was doing my of course, 524 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: my research for you. Your your dynamite haircut. When they 525 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: were repackaging you, you looked pretty spiffy with that hairdo 526 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: my friend cut your hair and before you before you 527 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: got released and No. Nine or eight whenever it was, 528 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: that was terrible. Oh no, you look great. That was 529 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: reminiscent of your your real turn. Uh promo shot. That 530 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: haircut was down somewhat there. You look good. I don't 531 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: know what you look The nights were not good. The haircuts. 532 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Part about that was as I got back from England, 533 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to a haircut. I try to figure that out, 534 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: got that haircut show up, and then Vince asked why 535 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: I cut my hair? Oh did he so? You know whatever? Yeah, 536 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: they told me I needed to cut my hair because 537 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: Vince wanted me to, and then cut my hair and 538 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: then Vince asked me why I cut my hair? That's, 539 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, the good part about w W. You see 540 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: Johnny's hitting the convention scene. Oh man, I cannot wait 541 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: to see Johnny Axe on the on the convention scene. 542 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: I look I looked forward to those uncomfort uncomfortable conversations 543 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: with you know people around that are like, yeah, you 544 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: totally dicked us over and fired us and uh, you 545 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: know everything else. He's got to have the the Undertaker 546 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: set up where they pull him into like a curtained 547 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: room and separate him, you know, and have the separate 548 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: line in a different area. 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So your last 593 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: time you were on with us with Eyes of Pere 594 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: that was probably I don't know what about two months ago, 595 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: and I think the following week day, maybe even days 596 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: after you were on with us, I'm looking at Twitter 597 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it pops up and you 598 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: you you post this random picture all right. I don't 599 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: know if it was a picture. You just tweeted and 600 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: it was like thank you very much to blah blah 601 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: blah for the experience, you know, look forward to seeing it. 602 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the hell is this? I'm like, 603 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: what how is How did you not tell me about this? 604 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: And I called you right away? But you popped up 605 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: randomly on a w dark in a lumberjack match as 606 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: they came through Indianapolis. So I was I was on 607 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Friday night night. My my my, my fault. Tell the story 608 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: because it literally happened days after you were on with 609 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: us the last time. Yeah, so on that Uh, just 610 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: they were in town and Indianapolis and just you know, 611 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: went down there to see uh see mister ass and 612 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh the gun boys and a couple, you know, 613 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple couple others and so on and so forth, 614 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hanging out backstage. I had my 615 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: buddy Dennis Kelly, who plays for the Colts with me. 616 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: He's he's a huge wrestling fan and uh maybe one 617 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: day he'll he'll be stepping in a ring killing somebody 618 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: just because he's he's got wrestling knowledge unlike any other. 619 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: But we're just hanging out and then uh yeah, q T. 620 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: Marshall came up and was like, hey, uh you want 621 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: to be in this lumberjack match. I'm like, uh I guess. 622 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: He goes, you got your gear? And I'm like, why 623 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: would I have my gear? Like I came here. I 624 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: came here to hang out, Like I'm not trying to 625 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: get a job at this point. I'm yeah, I like, 626 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yep. On like and I'm sitting there thinking, like, 627 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, I guess maybe that is how most people 628 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: do it, but anymore, I just don't. And uh. So 629 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: he's like, well, how far do you live from here? 630 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm about twenty minutes, you know, give 631 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: or take. So you know, I ran home. I Dennis 632 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: had to come with me as just because he had 633 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: to laugh the whole time because I was then a 634 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: nervous wreck because I was like, oh shit, I don't 635 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: have anything organized in my basement where all my stuff is. 636 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of there. It's you know, spread out. 637 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: It's not like in a suitcase. It's ready. I mean, 638 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: boots are here, tights are there, this is there, that's there, 639 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: grab you know whatever else. So literally I get home 640 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you know, trying to grab stuff. 641 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, you know what I am and 642 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go dress uh and uh you 643 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: know in the hallway or in some you know, some 644 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: talent locker room or what you know whatever as far 645 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: as and not that I'm over, I just I just 646 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: want my own space to get dressed. So I was like, 647 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm getting dressed here. And then I come upstairs, I 648 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: have everything on, and he's dying laughing, you know, like 649 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: what are we doing? I go, look, it is what 650 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: it is we get pulled over. This is gonna be 651 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: the best story ever. So we you know, drove back, 652 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: got there, you know, go and do whatever. I thought 653 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: there was gonna be a lot more TV exposure than 654 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: there was. I mean, you saw me like three seconds here, 655 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: three seconds there. But you know what, the check came 656 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: about two weeks later for absolutely doing nothing. And you know, 657 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: we've got nothing but good things to say. I mean, 658 00:37:53,080 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: they they've got a great thing going. Aw you know, 659 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: a lot of guys are getting a lot of opportunities 660 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Uh, you know, I think booking 661 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: needs as a whole needs to simmer down. I think 662 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: they keep hiring too many people. At some point you 663 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: got to stop hiring God and everybody and just concentrate 664 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: on this, this and this and start building. But I mean, 665 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, Tony's toy and you know, and he's you know, 666 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean given a lot of guys a lot of 667 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: opportunities to make money that all deserve it. So you know, 668 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: I definitely never gonna hate it because it's given guys opportunities, 669 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, to make to make money with what they have. 670 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: And you know, not necessarily nothing wrong with the indies, 671 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: but you know, having a little bit more uh, you know, 672 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: comfort and knowing I've got a paycheck next week, which 673 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: which I think, you know, definitely helps out of you know, 674 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: not being out there going. I don't know, you know, 675 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: as long with the these bookings, I'm getting paid, but 676 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: something happens, I'm out, you know, my mortgage, I'm out 677 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: my car card and all this other stuff. So at least, 678 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, list those guys are getting those opportunities, so 679 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a whole, I mean, next time they're 680 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: in town, I don't know, hopefully I'll bring my gear 681 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: this time. I guess maybe just in case. But it 682 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: was still pretty funny just leaving, leaving, going, getting dressed 683 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: and coming and coming back. And I was it was 684 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining. So what did you think of the crowd? Uh, 685 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: crowd was good, I'll be honest, though, Uh the rampage 686 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: crowd was nonexistent by the time. By the time we 687 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: got in the ring, I looked looked around and I 688 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, this this place was filled to 689 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: the room, you know, for the for the first show, 690 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: and then now it was just it was done. And 691 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: I you know, and I think that comes down to 692 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: you you know, with with anything like that. And it 693 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: was like that with E. C W back back in 694 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: the day too, if we filmed before raw or before 695 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: SmackDown or whatever. I mean, it was great because it 696 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: was pack that it was the first thing they'd seen 697 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: everything else after SmackDown, and we would would go out there, 698 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: you could just tell people are just done. I mean, 699 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: they were worn out, they were tired. You know, wasn't 700 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: the main show, so they weren't as in tune to it, 701 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: you know. So I think that kind of comes with 702 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: with you know, with all that is. And I know 703 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: it's a budget thing, but I think at some point 704 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna have to do, Hey, this is rampage, 705 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: this is done, you know. And I think it just 706 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: makes it for for better for better stuff, you know, 707 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 1: and for better crowds and crowds that are into it, 708 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: because you know, when I did look up and look around, 709 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: it was like, oh and nobody's there, you know. And 710 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: I talked to a couple of friends of mine because 711 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: I didn't let anybody know that, you know, I had 712 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: gone home, got change was in there. I was like, 713 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: oh were you there? Oh ship dude. We were in 714 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: the car all the way. Oh yeah, awesome, thanks, yeah, 715 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: thanks guys. Yeah, that's terrible. And it's it's interesting because 716 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: they could get worn out and it seems like they 717 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: kind of wear themselves out with they're just they're like 718 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of over the top. They're chanting and yelling, and 719 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: they put themselves into like every single match like too much. Well, 720 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,479 Speaker 1: they try to make every match the main events. Yeah, 721 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: but you know with a W and stuff like this, 722 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: it's and I mean, you know, I had the privilege 723 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: and experience and everything else of Rip Rogers, who was 724 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: one of our trainers here. And Rip's crazier and shit, 725 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: I love him to death, but has he's like corn 726 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: app though. They've got a love for the business like 727 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: no other and the smarts for the business like no other. 728 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: And Rip used to have us in OVW. We'd build 729 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: the show and you know, the first match would be 730 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: like a schoolboy roll up and then you know it 731 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: and everything would transpire. Okay, then now the next match 732 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: would have that, but that would be the false finish, 733 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: and then the next match would would use you know 734 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: something you know, uh, middle middle of the card, right 735 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: before you know, intermission. Stuff like that would be you know, 736 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,479 Speaker 1: someone launching somebody over the top rope and then hitting 737 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: the floor and just selling like it killed them, you know, 738 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: and then all that would transpire to the main event, 739 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: and then the main event would put all of those 740 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: aspects in their match and they had the people eating 741 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: out of their hands because they were it built to that. 742 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: But you know, with with aw matches and stuff like that, 743 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: is I mean, that was like to you know, today 744 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: in gym, I'm you know, trying to watch some stuff, 745 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, knowing we're going to be here today talking. 746 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: But I mean, first match, you know, they're over the top, 747 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: through the ropes, I mean, and everything's on the outside. 748 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: It just you know, and then two with with with them, 749 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: uh you know, my biggest disconnect is every week has 750 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: blood now like blood used to be main you know, 751 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: a main event. I mean, you know, and there's guys 752 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: that you know, I mean, one of one of the 753 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: matches I remember specifically was Eddie Guerrero and jbl In. 754 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: The blood that they did, you know in that Great 755 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 1: American Bash was absolutely insane. I thought Eddie damn near 756 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: cut his f and head off when he got to 757 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: the back and everything else. But that that's what it 758 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: called for but to also you know in that those 759 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: guys are making you know, probably five hundred into a 760 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: million apiece to bleed like that. I can get it, 761 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: you know it, you know, and they're making that money 762 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: where I maybe you know, just doing it for the 763 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: sake of TV every week. It's just it's got to 764 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: build something to me. And I think it just it 765 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: uh you become uh desensitized. I guess I do. I 766 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: think that's the word. Yeah, yeah, because you're he doesn't 767 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: mean anything anymore. Yeah, You're just it's it's not bothering 768 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: me anymore. Now. It's like it's just a typical you know, 769 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: you know kind of kind of stuff. Right. So I 770 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: mean I think, you know, those kind of changes need 771 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: to be made, you know, with their product and everything else. 772 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: But I mean as a whole, it's it's it's awesome television. 773 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: And I mean seeing some of these guys you know, 774 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: like you know, mg F and some other ones that 775 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: are ye you know, homegrown, that are really starting to 776 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: get over and starting to you know, be huge park. 777 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: And then when you go to the you know, the 778 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: wrestle cons and the autograph signings and seeing the lines 779 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: for those guys it's like, all right, they're they're doing 780 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: you get it. So it's you know, definitely definitely pretty 781 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: cool to see. So and it's weird to your point 782 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: that women's match that had all that blood two weeks 783 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: ago whatever it was one. So if there's nobody saying 784 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: for that, she just got herself, you know, nobody, nobody's 785 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: pays for it. And then two, I mean, ratings are 786 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: so so on a Friday night. I mean you you know, 787 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, I and and those and those girls work 788 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: their asses off. I mean they they I mean Ruby. 789 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: So she's amazing. I mean she's an Indiana person, I 790 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: mean up up north. I mean absolutely amazing talent, you know, 791 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: and and and gave it and put it all on 792 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: the line. It was just like a right, it just 793 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: needs to be for just a little bit something more. 794 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: And I think it would have been awesome, you know, 795 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: at least get super paid for it then just your 796 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: normal check, I guess. Yeah. And she bled like Eddie 797 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: Guerrero on a show. Yeah yeah, Inane, that's wow. Well, 798 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: that time flew by for eyes up here, But I 799 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: am going to invite you to stay to do the 800 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: rest of our Patreon content with us. If that's okay 801 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: with you, since you were the invited guests of the 802 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: Queen of Extreme Absolutely, okay. Well, we'll wrap up today, 803 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: but I will run down the Patreon content for everybody listening. 804 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll do the watch alongs, but I'm going 805 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: to throw a little bit of a curve ball. We're 806 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: gonna do two watch alongs only because, as we've documented 807 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: with Francine, you guys didn't get a lot of time 808 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: in ECW. You guys were a little bit rushed and 809 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: some of these segments are like four minutes and you're out. 810 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: So not only are we going to watch Ariel versus 811 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: Francine uh and it's whopping, you know, three minute, it's 812 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: in forty five. Yeah, but we're also going to watch 813 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: the match you talked about the last time you were 814 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: on with us, and that is one Kevin Thorn versus 815 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: Ball's mahoney, oh god. And this one has basically if 816 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't a referee stoppage, it was a Mercy pinfall. 817 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do that and then this one, I mean, 818 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think this could become the two parter 819 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: because it is, it is ridiculous, and it is ridiculous 820 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: Wrestling Urban Legends. Now, Francine and I have done lists 821 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: like this before. This has some that we may have covered, 822 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: but there's some that I know we haven't. But I'm 823 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: just curious to hear your take on some of them. 824 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you might have the two cents on 825 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: a few, So just strap in. It's gonna be ridiculous, 826 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: just like the the I'm looking forward to the headlines 827 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: you trying to make me go and I can't talk 828 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 1: about that. I've I already centered it. No, I pulled 829 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: them because I skipped over the parties at either I 830 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: know A I can't mention, or B. I just I 831 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: know it's true and I don't want to say it 832 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: because you know I'm not. See folks, when you spend 833 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: time around when you spend time around the guys, you 834 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: know who to talk about and who not to say anything, 835 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: who to mention, who not dimension see. That's why I'm 836 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: tough on with people, man like I say what I 837 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: need to. You know I'm good. But if you want 838 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: to follow me, it's at Chad E and B on Twitter, 839 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: at IB Exclusives on Instagram. My website is IB Exclusives 840 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 1: dot com you can catch my autograph signings and everything 841 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: going on in the ib Exclusives land to include Get 842 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: ready for this one if you're not already, mister fertig 843 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:52,959 Speaker 1: Thorn Mordecai this February twenty fifth at the Virginia Beach 844 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: Field House. On ibee exclusives dot com. You have all 845 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 1: the information on how you can meet one Kevin Thorne. 846 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: You can also send in items to be signed by 847 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: one Kevin Thorn. All the informations on ibexclusives dot com. 848 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: But I haven't seen you in person since twenty seventeen, 849 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: so I cannot wait to hang out with you and 850 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: obviously have you bet yeah, I looked it up. WrestleCade 851 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen was the last time we were like physically 852 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: in the same room together. But now I mean not 853 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: just for me, obviously for the fans too. In Virginia 854 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: Beach talking to people, people have been messaging me big 855 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: Mordechai fans and you told me Mordecai's last match was 856 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: in that area. So yep, interesting stuff. Where can the 857 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: people find one mister Kevin Ferdig at the Kevin ferdig 858 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: Is Instagram and Twitter and then Facebook. I think it 859 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: is Kevin Fredick really and then just Kevin Ferdick, So 860 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: I kind of kept it pretty easy. Look at that. 861 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: I mean, if this guy doesn't know what he's doing, 862 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to tell you. So we 863 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: will get out of here for this week. Again. Thank 864 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: you Kevin for joining us. Catch us on Patreon, Patreon 865 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: dot com, slash Francine podcast for the pale writer. This 866 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: is the Chad start. We will catch you on the 867 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: flip side.