1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, everybody, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: and we appreciate you being here. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: We've got a lot to get to. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Breaking news right from this morning before we came on 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: the air. There have been some guilty verdicts, including guilt 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: for seditious conspiracy of some of the former Proud Boys 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: over the January sixth attack. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: We will discuss. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: I think this is tying into the overall strategy of 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: what they're going to do to Donald Trump down the 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: line and possible federal charges there. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: We will discuss that. Clay and I will dive into 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: it together in a little bit. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Anheuser Busch has disavowed the Dylan mulvany campaign, but they're 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: now blaming an outside ad agency. So they know this 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: is a disaster, but they're not really apologizing. They're just 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: saying not really our fault. That's certainly something we will 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: get into. Meanwhile, the Navy has put out a digital 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: ambassador advertisement or recruiting purposes of a drag performer. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: That's an interesting move for the Navy. We'll discuss. 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: New York has set in motion a ban on gas stoves. 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: This is most interesting to the New Yorkers listening, I think, 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: because we were all told that this wasn't going to happen. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Don't be worried about this. It's just a right wing conspiracy. 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Now it's happening. What starts out as conspiracy seems to 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: become reality. It's just a question of about six. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: Months these days in the news cycle, and we'll get 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: into that and some more. 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: We also have our friend Kaylie Macininny joining us in 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: the third hour of the program. You know her from 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Fox News, formerly of the White House where she was 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Trump's press secretary. 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: She's got a new book out. We'll talk to her. 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: But the thing I want to get to first today 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: is this incident. And I think it's important that people 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: can see for themselves what happened on the New York 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: City subway because there is clear video footage of it. 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: So this is one of those incidents where we'll describe 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: it here, but we'll put up at clayanbuck dot com 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: a link. 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: To the video. 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: It is disturbing. 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: It's just it's people having to having to restrain an 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: individual and he ended up dying as a result. 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: Of the restraint. We will get into this right now. 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: The protesters are already in the subway over this. The 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: BLM movement in New York City is mobilizing. What happened 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: is you had an individual, Jordan Neely, who has been 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: arrested over forty times, had an outstanding warrant for felony 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: assault at the time of the incident. 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: He has a long. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: History of threatening death against random subway riders, harassing women, 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: screaming obscenity in people's faces. He's being presented as a 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson impersonator on social media by a lot of people, 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: which that is part of the story. But he is 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: also somebody who has been arrested over forty times and 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: had an outstanding felony warm. What happened was he started 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: clay to shout at people on the subway. We don't 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: have all the specifics as to what he was shouting, 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: but profanity, obscenity, threats, you know, I'm going to you know, 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: blank you up, and I'm going to do this in 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: that and a marine former marine put him in a 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: choke hold to subdue him. Two other individuals helped the marine. 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: This wasn't just one guy acting by himself to other 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: including an African American man who was holding the arms 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: of Jordan Neil. Jordan Neely is black, which plm of course, 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean you could assume based on the reaction. 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: Here. 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: These are the details of the case, based on the 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: fact that AOC has weighed in Clay. This is a 73 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: massive national news story now because of the implications of 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: the narrative. And by the way, here is a crowd 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 2: of people on the subway just yesterday, play clip one 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: protesting it. 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: All right, we get the idea, So Clay. 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I lived in New York for many, many, many years 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: and spent a lot of time on the subway, and 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: in recent years it just became essentially expected. If you're 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: going to ride the subway, you're going to have true 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: lunatics who often are partially dressed, who smell like they 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: have not been bathed or have bathed themselves in you know, 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: many many, many months, who will throw bodily fluids at people, 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: who will shout in your face, who will threaten to 86 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: kill you whatever they want. They'll grope women, and this 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: is just normal. This is normal day to day activity 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: on the New York City subway. A lot of people 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: are saying that this is completely unacceptable and if the 90 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: authorities in New York can't protect people, they're going to 91 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: protect themselves. 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: So several things here. One, this is what we have 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: been talking about on this program for years now. It's 94 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: not BLM, it's not Black lives matter, it's black lives 95 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: matter when white individuals are involved in black deaths in anyway. 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: Because if this had been a black guy who puts 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: him in a choke hold on the subway, nobody even blinks. 98 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: I doubt it even as remotely as story. The only 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: reason this is a story is because a white guy 100 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: was involved in putting this guy in a choke hold. 101 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Now we don't know at this point who the guy 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: is like, who this marine former marine like, what his 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: background is. We don't know exactly what happened in terms 104 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: of how this guy died, what sort of and you 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: know this will be part of the autopsy. O would 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: imagine what sort of drugs potentially was this individual, Jordan 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: neely on, were there any substances in his body at all? 108 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: What does the full import of this look like? But 109 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: at its most basic level, Buck, you've talked about this 110 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 3: on the show before. This is I think the way 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: that a lot of people want to respond to violence 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: that they see happening because the cities are not safe. 113 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: Most people aren't willing to do it because they fear 114 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: becoming the target. Like this marine who's acted out now 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: has right. It would have been relatively easy. How long 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: ago did we play audio of that dad getting screamed 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: at by the crazy black guy on the subway, horrible 118 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: racial swimming, his child, threatening his child. If people remember 119 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: a man with his wife and a young child, guy 120 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: on the subway screaming at him, and most of the 121 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: time you and I both said, I said, as a dad, 122 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: I would hate to do it, but I probably would 123 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: have just taken it because the moment that you act 124 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: out one that guy might be armed. You might get stabbed, 125 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: your kid, your wife might get stabbed. But also if 126 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: you act out against him, you don't know that you 127 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: aren't going to become the target, because you know, let's 128 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: say you land a punch on somebody, they fall, they 129 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: hit their head. There's a video ten seconds of that 130 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: is taken and all of a sudden, Alvin Bragg is 131 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: charging you with murder. Alvin Bragg will likely, I would imagine, 132 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: come after this marine with everything he's got, despite the 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: fact that most of the time he is lowering felonies 134 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: to misdemeanors, he here will throw the book at this guy. 135 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: That's my expectation based on what we saw happen to 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: the bodega guy who that was on video two. Now 137 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: maybe there are larger context videos, but this is And 138 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: let me just say this too, because I flagged and 139 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: grabbed this video, sorry, this quote, and I thought it 140 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: was so significant. This is evidence of I think white 141 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: people hate the media so much. There was a poll 142 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: what percentage of people believe that the media exists primarily 143 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: to increase political polarization in the United States seventy four percent. 144 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: Buck only six percent of people think media decreases polarization. 145 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: This story is going to go viral, its identity politics laden, 146 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: and it is going to create massive amounts of division 147 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: in the country because the media is going to drive it. 148 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: It's BLM only when they're white people involved. 149 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: So the Mayor of New York, Eric Adams, so far 150 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: has seemed like he's in a weight and C. 151 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: Mode on this one. So that is what he should 152 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: do to be fair, That's what the mayor should. 153 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Do but he is also so Eric Adams, Mayor of 154 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: New York City, former MOFPD. He's a black guy. He 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: was elected to clean up the city, right, That was 156 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: the basics. He was formerly of the NYPD and the 157 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: basic premises he was gonna clean up New York. He 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: was gonna be Juliani esque but a little different in 159 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: how he did it. That was the hope of New Yorkers. 160 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: That obviously has not materialized yet, not even close. But 161 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: I do think that we've reached a critical mass here. 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: We've reached a point in time where the perception is 163 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: it's just too much. It's not even only the numbers 164 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: that you hear about the shootings and the stabbings and 165 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: the rapes, the murders. I mean, that's obviously all horrific, 166 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: and that's the thing that people focus on when it 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: comes to crime. But you shouldn't have to think every 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: time you get on the subway, a lunatic who's been 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: arrested forty times is gonna get on the subway shout 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: that he's gonna kill you, Shout that he wants to 171 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: paralyze you, Shout that he's gonna rape you, grab somebody, 172 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: threaten somebody. All of that is illegal, by the way, Yes, 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: but this happens constantly in the subway, This happens constantly. 174 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: On the streets of New York City. 175 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Clay, I'll even tell you in the year before I moved, 176 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: this happened to me on the street. 177 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: Well, you've said this on the show, that you've made 178 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: a conscious decision before not to get involved with people 179 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: who are threatening you. 180 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, because if you and people who understand 181 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: the dynamics here know that, you always get into comments 182 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: like oh, like I would have you know, I would 183 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: have First of all, some of the individuals who are 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: making these threats wouldn't be that easy to handle. Start 185 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: with that, I mean, some of them are are leader 186 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: larger and stronger than others. But even beyond that, if 187 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: you have to use force against somebody because they're up 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: in your face, they're threatening you, what happens if they 189 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: say that you know that they didn't do anything, They 190 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: were minding their own business. 191 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: Who does the city believe? 192 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: Well, as we know, depending on the interracial dynamic, yes, 193 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: you can expect that the politics will be paramount. In 194 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: the mind of Alvin Bragg and the rest of the 195 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: Democrat system. What happens if someone intervenes or even someone 196 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: just defends themselves. But the person who has a long 197 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: criminal record and was you know, the instigator of this, says, well, 198 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: he called me a racial slur. First, do you think 199 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg brings charges again against the individual or not? Right, 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: you start to look at the dynamics and you understand 201 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: that Democrats have decided to effectively legalize crime under certain circumstances, 202 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: in certain context. I mean this premise that BLM is 203 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: down in the subways. This is all rooted in the 204 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: notion that interracial violences is predominant. First of all, that 205 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: the judicial system and the criminal justice system are racist, 206 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: which is something that we should all have to discuss. 207 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: In what way is it racist? Please explain how it 208 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: is racist. 209 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: But beyond that, when you look at the dynamics of 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: interracial violence, and this is all very clear from the statistics, 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: it is eighty to ninety percent black against white or 212 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: black perpetrator white victim in the ten to twenty percent 213 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: range of when it is a white individual and a 214 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: black victim. The media pretends goes on this whole crusade 215 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: to make everyone think this is happening. Ever, this is 216 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: happening all the time. They're calling it as a data lie. 217 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: They're calling it a lynching. They're trying to call it 218 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: a lynching. To your point, almost all racial violence occurs 219 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: inside the same race, right, So if you're black, you're 220 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly likely to be killed by a black person. If 221 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: you are white, you are overwhelmingly likely to be killed 222 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: by a white person. That is what the data reflects. 223 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: The data also reflects, Buck, that if there is interracial crime, 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: as you just said, white people are overwhelmingly more likely 225 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: to be the victim of black violence than black people 226 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: are to be the victim of white violence. That's what 227 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: the data shows. So when we're talking about these stories 228 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 3: which the media glosses onto, which BLM tries to perpetrate 229 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: as this mass lynching, as if they are already doing, 230 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: it's a tiny pinprick. I'll also mention, I bet Buck, 231 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: for a lot of our listeners out there, particularly in wor, 232 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: this is going to be a hallmark and harkened back 233 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: to the Bernie Yates case right in some way. Now 234 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: that one was very different nineteen eighty four, but what 235 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: it represented was the city is so dangerous that people 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: have no faith in the police and the process couters 237 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: to protect them, and so they feel like they have 238 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: to undertake this protection on their own. And Bernie Gates, 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: I was just looking at it to familiarize myself. Nineteen 240 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: eighty four acts out shoots. I believe it was four 241 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: different people that he claimed were assaulting him on the subway, 242 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: and he was carrying a gun because he felt like 243 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: there was not enough protection being provided in the city. 244 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: That's where we are now. I think a lot of 245 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: you out there listening to us right now are recognizing 246 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: that in the twenty first century, your cities have never 247 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: felt more dangerous, and many people feel like they have 248 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: to protect themselves. 249 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Bernie Getz became known as the subway vigilante. Yes, that 250 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: was what everyone was calling him in the media, but 251 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: they were calling them that with the knowledge that a 252 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: lot of people who lived in New York of all races, 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: were actually quite sympathetic to Bernie. Yeah gets because he 254 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: had four youths came up to him, including one with 255 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: a sharpened screwdriver, who carries a sharpened screwdriver with them 256 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: on the subway. Somebody who is going to threaten someone 257 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: with it and or stab somebody with it, and people 258 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: had had enough. 259 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: And I think in a lot of these cities, a 260 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: lot of these. 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Democrat run cities, the sentiment is, it's not just you 262 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: have to arrest somebody and prosecute them when they murder somebody, 263 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: and even that is questionable with some of these Soros prosecutors. 264 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: It's people are sick of having lunatic criminals. 265 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Remember, these are people who are mentally, you know, clearly 266 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: very disturbed, but also get arrested for this guy had 267 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: assaulted lots and lots of. 268 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: Times. 269 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: Okay, how many people listening to this have been arrested 270 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: four times? 271 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: One line? 272 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: Forty one time? Most people have arrested over and over again. 273 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: This system completely failed. Whether the system failed him, he 274 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: clearly needed to be institutionalized to get help. 275 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: But the system was failing day in and day out. 276 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: The eight point five million New Yorkers, including the black 277 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: and Hispanic population of New York that is overwhelming ninety 278 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: nine percent of which trying to just live their lives 279 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: in peace and security and get to their jobs. But 280 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: what is BLM protest this? This is the incident that 281 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: gets them upset. This is the incident that causes the problems, 282 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: and you know it's just fascinating on AOC has already 283 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: called this murder. 284 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lynching. They've even have gone beyond murder lynch. 285 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: You want to know what AOC thinks about it. You know, 286 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: I've seen her boyfriend not exactly an imposing figure. I 287 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: want to know how she feel about this. The next 288 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: time some maniac pulls out his genitals on the subway, 289 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: says he's going to attack her, calls her boyfriend you 290 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: know what, and she's to sit there and take it. 291 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: How much of a progressive would she be? Then? 292 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: But we all know it's about other people suffering while 293 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: she gets to virtue signal for her friends or at 294 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: MSNBC and live in a fancy apartment in DC, in 295 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: a safe neighborhood, safe for DC. 296 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: It's not even yet acknowledged to be in any way 297 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: a murder. She's already calling it a lynching, which is 298 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: suggesting that this marine only did that because this guy 299 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: was black, and that his int was to kill him. 300 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable to see this happen time after time after time, 301 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people are getting wise 302 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: to it. I really do, how much BLM is founded 303 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: on basically a lie, but essentially is only concerned about 304 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: black lives when there are political points to score against 305 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: white people. Let's be honest. 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Reacting to 325 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: the story that is sweeping across the country, the New 326 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: York City subway vigilante, the lynching as AOC would call it. 327 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: Jordan Neely arrested forty times, dies in a choke hold. 328 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: Marine puts him in a choke hold. Blonde haired white 329 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: Marine uh and BLM is up in arms. I'm curious 330 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: if you have been on the subway recently. We need 331 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: to bring in producer Ali and get her feel on 332 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: this because she's on the subway all the time in 333 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: New York City, where much of this show is based. 334 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 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Are they going to bring is brag 363 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: still by the way, asking for a restraining order? 364 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: Effectively? 365 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: I mean they're calling it a protective order against Trump 366 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: so that he can't speak about the nonsense trial, criminal 367 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: trial to bring against Donald Trump in New York City 368 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: over the hush payment. But is Bragg going to charge 369 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: this marine we don't know his name yet, for his 370 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: safety because they realize this is just they're going to 371 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: come after him. People always forget clay Or I think 372 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people forget that even in the Michael 373 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: Brown incident, that police officer who was acting completely within 374 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, natural self defense law and within his role 375 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: as a law enforcement officer, he had to go into 376 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: hiding death threats, endless death threats against the officer involved 377 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: in the Michael Brown shooting years ago, which a black 378 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: eyewitnesses said he was completely right to use his weapon 379 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: the way that he. 380 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: Did and they were when it's a complete and total 381 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: law giant law. 382 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: Giant law I propagated by CNN, the New York Times 383 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of other places. So Eric Adams has 384 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: weighed in, and now I think in particular AOC who 385 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: really is a malign force in America today, For I 386 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: think the destruction of civilization in a lot of ways, 387 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: not just with the socialism, but with the opposition to 388 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: basic law and order, And like I said, I would 389 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: be really curious if she had. I mean, producer Ali 390 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: was just talking to this before the show about the 391 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: stuff that she has seen my last time in New 392 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: York City broad Daylight, nine am. What this is a 393 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: couple of months ago. You know there's a guy standing 394 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: there and he's masturbating at women as they walk by. 395 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: Okay, and no one's doing anything about it. 396 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well we're just supposed to say that this 397 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: is life in the big city. No, it wasn't life 398 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: in the big city, not until Democrats decided to go insane, 399 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: took over and stopped process cuting people. 400 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: We're all sick of this. But AOC is, oh, it's murderer. 401 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 5: You know. 402 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: It's tweeting about this and talking about how it's cuts 403 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: to city services that resulted in this. 404 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, more commy stuff is going to keep us safe. 405 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: Give me a break. Eric Adams weighed. 406 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: In on this, and look, he's not he's not where 407 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: he should be on the issue. But even he is saying, 408 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: hold on a second, and when he's asked whether the 409 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: passenger who was the marine should have done what he did, 410 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: this is what he said, plat. 411 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: Situation is different and how a passenger. We have so 412 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 6: many cases with passengers assist of the writers and we 413 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: don't know exactly what happened here to investigations thorough and 414 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: these situation is different. I was a form of transit 415 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 6: police officers, and I responded to many jobs where you 416 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 6: had a passenger assistant someone. And so we cannot just 417 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 6: blakeanly say, Blakely say what a passenger shooter should not 418 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: do in a situation like that. We should allow the 419 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 6: investigation to take his course. 420 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: He knows, Clay that this subway in there. Even Hokeel, 421 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: the governor of New York Note, knew this too. She 422 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: started putting more cops in the subway. People have had enough. 423 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: They've seen too They've they've literally seen too much on 424 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: the subway. They've been threatened too many times, and they're 425 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: tired of it. 426 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: I think he also probably knows more than he's letting 427 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: on there, because if he thought that this was truly 428 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: an unjustified act of vigilanteism, I think he would have 429 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 3: been more aggressive there in the way that he responded. Remember, 430 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 3: he's probably got more information about this story than the 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: average person does. He probably already has seen videos. If 432 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: I were the mayor, I would already want to know 433 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: way more of the background here. The fact that Alvin 434 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: Bragg hasn't spoken out at all yet, at least that 435 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: we've heard. If he does speak out at some point 436 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: today would be interesting too, because what it signifies to 437 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: me is while all of this, remember think about how 438 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: crazy it is to not only say is ao he did, 439 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: that this is a murder, but to take the next 440 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: step and say lynching. Right, She's not even saying that 441 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: this was a murder. She's saying that this guy was 442 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: killed because he was black, intentionally based on his race. 443 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: That's her argument, and that is what the BLM protesters 444 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: effectively are trying to say as well. And I just 445 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: think we have to keep hammering home here. There would 446 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: have been no interest in this story whatsoever. If it 447 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: were a black on black act of violence on the subway, 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: this story would not even have been a glimmer in 449 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: the BLM universe. They would not have said a word. 450 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: But the fact that there is a white guy involved 451 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 3: here is what makes this a story. And sadly, you 452 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: guys know this the only reason George Floyd was a story, 453 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: to a large extent, was because it was a white 454 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 3: police officer. If it had been a black police officer 455 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: doing that, it would have gotten a pinprick of the attention. 456 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 3: And certainly if it were an act of violence that 457 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: occurred between two black individuals, as has skyrocketed all over Minneapolis, 458 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: nobody cares. The murder rate has doubled in Minneapolis since 459 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: BLM started their protests, Nobody cares. 460 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: Has anyone seen a tweet from AOC or any of 461 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: the other commies out there on the Democrat Party about 462 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: the man yesterday in the Atlanta hospital who shot and 463 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: murdered a woman, shot four other people, So mass shooting 464 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: at a hospital, Why is that so much less concerning 465 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: to Democrats? Why is that such a lesser And we 466 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: keep seeing this playoff. We saw this with the young 467 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: man who was shot at the door by the very 468 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: elderly man who was frightened in what was at Oklahoma 469 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: right Kansas City, Kansas City, thank you. And then the 470 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: white girl in upstate twenty years old in upstate New 471 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: York who's shot in the driveway. One of them gets 472 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: tweets from the Biden White House one and the kid's 473 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: fine by the way I mean, which is the right 474 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: things got murdered, and attention nothing, no attention whatsoever. There's 475 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: a twenty four year old black guy who shoots up 476 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: a hospital yesterday, murders a woman, shoots four other people. 477 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: What is AOC concerned with? The guy who is a 478 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: clear maniac, who'd been arrested forty times, who had been 479 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: threatening and groping and attacking women, in particular on the 480 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: subway four years. He finally has somebody who steps in 481 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: and says enough is enough. There's a physical confrontation, he dies. 482 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: That's what the Democrat left is worried about right now. 483 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: That's what they think we all need to be, you know, 484 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: as if that marine is a threat to public safety, 485 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: that marine is the reason there is in a lot 486 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: of context, in a lot of ways, the man who 487 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: stands up and says enough is enough, whether it's a 488 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: law enforcement officer and everyday citizen that holds together public safety. 489 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: What did I say yesterday when our staff let us know, hey, 490 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: there's an active shit in Atlanta. They've just put out photos. 491 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: They're looking for him. Pull it up. Black guy shoots 492 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: five people in Atlanta. Story. I said, it's gonna completely vanish, yep, 493 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: because no one will care. If this were a Trump 494 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: supporter running around in Atlanta shooting because he's angry about 495 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: Trump being investigated or something like that, it would be 496 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: the lead story for multiple days. But acts of violence 497 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: are almost immediately reviewed in mainstream media large media outlets 498 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: through the prism exclusively of race. That's the true People say, well, 499 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: why are you guys talking about this case? Then it's 500 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: the number one story everywhere because this guy's white. 501 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about this case because living in Midtown Manhattan. 502 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: And also the thing is I've seen it doesn't have 503 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: to be this way. It wasn't this way in the 504 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: two things. It wasn't this way when after Giuliani was 505 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: able to turn things around. It wasn't this way under Bloomberg. 506 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg is a Democrat. He is a gun grabbing, nanny 507 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: state lib. He was a good mayor, a good mayor, 508 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: and anyone who lives in the city, the most Republican 509 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: New Yorkers you know, will say, yeah, no, I got 510 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: to tell you Bloomberg good mayor. Don't want him to 511 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: be president, but a good mayor, I mean'd rather have 512 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: them than Biden with That's all. Yeah, at least he's 513 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: smart and capable. 514 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: And his brain wars he doesn't have to make. 515 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: But anyway, I mean, Bloomberg did a great job in 516 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: New York City as the mayor, rid of stop question 517 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: of risk. I think we need to stop prosecuting criminals. 518 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: I think we need to let people out. We need 519 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: to stop enforcing a law. Let people pee and defecate 520 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: in public, let them smoke weed in public, let them 521 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: steal things and not get arrested, let them jump the 522 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: subway turnstiles. 523 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: I saw all of this happen. 524 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I was living this as it was occurring, and 525 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: a lot of us are saying this is bad. And 526 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: by the way, if you live right now and any 527 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: of the other big Democrat controlled cities across the country, 528 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: you're saying, yeah, we've basically had. 529 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: The same thing. I saw it happening. We said, guys, 530 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: this is going to get worse and worse and worse. 531 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: And the day to day reality is you walk through 532 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: you know, Midtown Manhattan. Yeah it's not every day, but 533 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: a couple times, two, three times a month, you're gonna 534 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: have some lunatic come up to you and say give 535 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: me money, and you say no, and they start screaming 536 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: often anti white slurs at you. They threaten to kill you, 537 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: they threaten to do you know, the rape your family. 538 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: This stuff I'm not making you know, I'm not coming 539 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: up with this out of nowhere, Clay, It's. 540 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 3: Happened to me. This happens to me walking out New 541 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: York City. 542 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm a six foot tall, two hundred pound guy who's 543 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: had some training. Imagine if you're one hundred and ten 544 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: pound woman trying to ride the subway at night, trying 545 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: to get home from your nursing job. Imagine you're sitting 546 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: there on the F train by yourself at two am, coming, 547 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: you know, making your way out to Queens, and you 548 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 2: have some maniac whos saying, you know, I'm gonna rape 549 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: you and I'm gonna kill your whole family. Because that's 550 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: the stuff that is happening every day in New York 551 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: and lives like AOC who live in fancy buildings and 552 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: have armed security protecting them all the time and just 553 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: pretend that this is never going to affect them. They 554 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: don't care about those people, and they don't care about 555 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: the black and brown people who are trying to just 556 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: live their lives in peace and safety in New York 557 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: City and are by far the biggest targets by the 558 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: numbers of the mentally ill, criminal lunatics who are allowed 559 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: to run crazy on the subways. And we've all seen 560 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: it and enough is enough. And I think Eric. 561 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: Adams is getting the message on this a little bit. 562 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: I think funny. 563 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: Remember he pushed back on Brag over the Jose albas 564 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: stabbing situation. Remember it was it was the mayor who 565 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: was like, hold on a second, buddy, That guy was 566 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: attacked by a criminal, felon maniac and he defended himself, right, 567 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: So maybe it's turning. 568 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: The data reflects there are thousands of black people dead 569 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: who would still be alive if BLM didn't exist. This 570 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: is what almost no one will even analyze. I'm just 571 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: talking about the raw data. The cities where BLM was 572 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: the most active have seen the biggest spike in the 573 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: Black murder r. 574 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: BLM has cost Black lives, has not defended a single 575 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Black lives has cost black thousands of. 576 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: Black people are dead because BLM has convinced the American 577 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: left that police are the enemy and they have to 578 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: be pulled off the streets and the result has been 579 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: and absolute murder records being set in the twenty first 580 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: century in cities. 581 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: Ever, and the Democrats are complete. They're either true believers 582 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: in this madness of BLM, or there's such cowards that 583 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: they allow this to happen. I think it's while pretending 584 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: that they care about black and brown lives, while pretending 585 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: that they want more safety for people, and it's about 586 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: confronting the systemic racism. Meanwhile, people are suffering, and we've 587 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: seen it. And everyone in New York who's ridden the 588 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: b it's not just a subway. It's walking around Midtown. 589 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: It's walking around your neighborhood. It's going to the grocery store. 590 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: It's going into CDs and seeing everything under lock and key, 591 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: and seeing some lunatic who's you know, half dressed, who's 592 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: throwing things around and stealing things. Everyone's sick of it. 593 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: Everyone's sick of it. Anyway, let us know what you think. 594 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two two two A A two. I 595 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: know we've got some former NYPD on the lines. You 596 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: guys all know people have had enough. Give us a call. 597 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: You know, the market has been brutal lately. 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Consult the financial advisor and read the prospectives 616 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: before investing. Learn more at raddiversified dot com. 617 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Learn laugh and join us on the weekend on our 618 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Sunday with Clay and Buck podcast, Fight It on the 619 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 620 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: And Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. The 621 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: foremost expert on the subway right now in New York 622 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: City on this show is our producer Ali. Ali. You 623 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: take the subway even though Buck and I tell you 624 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: probably shouldn't be doing it all the time. When you 625 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: see this story guys been arrested forty times the marine 626 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: choking somebody out on a subway. What percentage of the 627 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: time that you're on the subway do you feel unsafe 628 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: and or see someone behaving in a clearly not mentally 629 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: stable manner, maybe even a threatening way. 630 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: Oh well, gosh, depending on the time of day. This morning, 631 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 5: I had an early dentist appointment. Early morning hours are 632 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 5: the worst. 633 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: But I have to. 634 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 5: Say this story just made my blood boil because I 635 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: would have person only been so grateful to have that 636 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: guy on the train. It's awful what happened to the individual, 637 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: but I would not want to be the person that 638 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 5: doesn't have someone helping me out if I'm in a jam. 639 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 5: People underestimate the strength of people on drugs or mentally ill. 640 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: It's terrifying. And I'm definitely on high alert every single day. 641 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: And you're to Bucks point earlier. ALI, like you're what 642 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: I had, five two one hundred pounds. I mean, like 643 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: you are not a large person. So when you're traveling 644 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: on the subway by yourself, you and other women like you, 645 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: you feel I would imagine a great deal of trepidation 646 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: no matter what. But when someone is much physically larger 647 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: than you and also behaving in an inconsistent, violent, potentially 648 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: mentally unstable way, like it hits you in a way 649 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: that frankly it wouldn't for Bucker myself or other men 650 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: I would imagine, right. I mean, this is something that 651 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: women have to deal with on the subway in a 652 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: much degree, I guess, I should say than a lot 653 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: of men do. 654 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 5: People think I'm nuts, But I tell women all the time, 655 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: especially women that are new to the city, the first 656 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 5: thing I do when I get on the subway is 657 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: I don't have my headphones on. I do a scan 658 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 5: of the car. I just do a quick scan, see 659 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 5: who's where what, and look at what people are holding. 660 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 5: If I need something, what I could grab I mean 661 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 5: it sounds nuts, but I do that every single time, 662 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 5: just so that if something were to happen, I can 663 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 5: react quickly. 664 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: Well, Ali, thank you for letting everybody know. 665 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: You know what it's like and what you what you 666 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: deal with, particularly as a woman on the subway day 667 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: in and day out. Clay, you want to get to 668 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: some of these news calls. We've got former NYPD officer 669 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: Lou who is down in Florida because he's realized that 670 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: he likes Florida. Lou, thanks for calling in. 671 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, Clay and Buck. How you guys going today? 672 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: Fantastic? 673 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 4: I just wanted to say that back back in the eighties, 674 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: New York State and for created the law where if 675 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: you were caught when an illegal handgun, mandatory mandatory one 676 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: year in jail. 677 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: That's the Sullivan Law right Sullivan Act. They updated it. 678 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: I think, yes, But Bernie Getz was the only one 679 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: who ever spent the year in jail. Everybody else. I've 680 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 4: arrested numerous people with guns and they were all full 681 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 4: attempted possession of a gun. Let's do this, what happened 682 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: to the mandatory year in jail? If you did that, 683 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure the crime rate would go down. 684 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 3: What do you think Eric Adams is thinking? You heard 685 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: him as a former cop in this story. How well 686 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: informed do you think he is about the surrounding information here? 687 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: Oh, he's very well informed. I'm sure the chief of 688 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 4: the department, the chief of detectives all made phone calls 689 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 4: to him. He knows exactly what's going on. But I 690 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: was there when Eric Adams was there, and I wasn't 691 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: a fan of him as a police officer. 692 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: He was us why excuse me, tell us why we 693 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: want to know you give us some insight here. 694 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: Well, he was a he was a He was a 695 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 4: do nothing police officer. He never passed the sergeant's test, 696 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: but they made him a sergeant. He never passed a 697 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: lieutenant's test, but they made him a lieutenant. He never 698 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 4: passed the captain's test, but they made him a captain. 699 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: And wow, you know. 700 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 5: And. 701 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 2: That's interesting way we didn't know that. Look, hey, lou, 702 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for calling in. Thanks for the expertise. 703 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: We've got more coming up. Everybody, just a few minutes here, 704 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: we'll get into bud light. Have they felt enough pain, Clay, 705 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't think so.