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Tickets to 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: a t Exact Brooklyn are also available now at afro Tech. 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Experience dot afro tech dot How so what 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: is a crypto wallet? Um? You've likely you likely have 32 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: a wallet, you know, sitting nearby you somewhere, probably in 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: your pocket, maybe it's in your backpack or in your 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: tell far back. Maybe you know the concept, but your 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: wallet is likely where you store your physical credit cards, 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: your I D. Maybe you even have a little cash 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: in your wallet. The point is we're all familiar with 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: this concept. You have a physical storage container, usually like 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: leather or fold leather, where you store things that you 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: need access to, but you want to keep them secure 41 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: and somewhat organized. Uh. Typically these things have to do 42 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: with storing currency. These wallets do paying for things or 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: validating who you are, like in the case of having 44 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: your idea in it. A crypto wallet UM is effectively 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: the same thing, but it's specifically designed to store crypt 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: though in like passwords. There are hardware wallets, cold wallets, 47 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: UM and hot wallets, and we'll let's not get ahead 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: of ourselves, all right, So let's let's just walk this out, 49 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: because I don't want to jump too far ahead, because 50 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: it's very tempting to right now. But hardware wallets we 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: call them cold wallets, or you have like online wallets 52 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: that are called hot wallets. But first let's talk about 53 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: the purpose of a crypto wallet in any case. All right, So, 54 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: if you've been listening to this show for any length 55 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,559 Speaker 1: of time, specifically like in the last well since two, specifically, 56 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about crypto n f T s, 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: things like that, and hopefully by now I've built up 58 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: some kind of appetite in you to invest in yourself 59 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: in web three, whether it be buying in n f T, 60 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: exchanging your US dollars or rubles for ethereum or a 61 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: sheep of coin um. But just like we describe what 62 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: we're all pretty used to the wallet. In the crypto wallet, 63 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: these things store things that you might need access to, 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: like your currency cryptocurrency. It allows you to pay for 65 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: things in Web three, and it allows you to validate 66 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: who you are your crypto wallet. It does and among 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: the most important things of crypto wallet it does. And 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I just alluded to this is regarding the storage of 69 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: things you may need access to. Now I set this 70 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: up in the form of storing crypto, but there's a 71 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: level deeper that are wallet stores and that and that's 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: what we call keys. So not like physical keys today 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: that you know may turn on your vehicle or let 74 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: you in your house, and one day I'm sure we'll 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: get there, but I'm talking about your public and private keys, 76 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: the passwords that give you access to your cryptocurrencies. Um 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: now you might be asking, you know, I thought my 78 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: crypto was stored on or in the wallet, and well, 79 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: you may have crypto, but it's not like physically in 80 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: your crypto wallet, like your U S dollars might be 81 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: in your Louisatime wallet. In Web three, your currency is 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: basically just a recording on a ledger. There's no physical 83 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: coin or token you can see. It's a record. It's 84 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: a line of code. It's an instance that is secured 85 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: by the blockchain. It can be altered or forged. It 86 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: can it can be stolen. But again let's not get 87 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. We're gonna talk about that. But the 88 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: record does last forever um that it was in your 89 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: proverbial hands. I want to give again a quick primer 90 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: on how the blockchain works because it's important for this conversation. 91 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: The blockchain is a distributed database. Think of it like 92 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: a hard drive or a computer that is replicated in 93 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: A gang of people all over the world have the 94 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: same copy, the same version of this hard drive or 95 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: computer with the storage devising it, and they're constantly validating 96 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: the files on each other. So the computer, the the 97 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: hard drive that's in you know, Mississippi, is validating the 98 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: same storage and records of the computer that I may 99 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: have in Las Vegas, or in Atlanta or in New York. 100 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: So they're all like you know, validating each other to 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: make sure they're correct and to verify transactions that happen 102 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: on the blockchain. So you can't say, like, you know, 103 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I have a valid copy of Donda two on my 104 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: node with your computers like your node, that node on 105 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the blockchain network, because all the other nodes, all the 106 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: other computers out there are going to check the record 107 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: and say no, no, no, no, no, it's not valid. 108 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: And then when they verify that your node has you know, 109 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: malicious file on it or you know invalid filem it's 110 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: not necessarily be malicious, but it's invalid. Your no, then 111 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: your computer, your hard eye that's trying to insert that file, 112 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: that invalid or malicious file is gonna get banned from 113 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: the blockchain network because they try to insert an invalid transaction. 114 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, the blockchain is a database that stores information electronic, electronically, 115 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: uh digitally, and it's redundant, so it's there's same copies 116 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: all around the world. Then they're being stored by miners, 117 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: which we don't have to get into that today. But 118 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: what's so cool about the blockchain is that it's NonStop 119 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: guaranteeing the purity, fidelity, or you know the cleanliness of 120 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: the data that's being generated, and you don't have to 121 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: rely on like a government or any institution um to 122 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: protect that data. It's you know, it's a democratized authority. 123 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's probably by as far as I'm gonna go 124 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: with explaining what the blockchain is in this episode, because 125 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I really only referenced that to help us understand cryptocurrency 126 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: not being in our wallets physically up the record of 127 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: how much ethereum or light coin or sheba I have 128 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: um is stored in this distributed decentralized ledger miles long spreadsheet, 129 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: if you will. So. Your wallet then stores the keys 130 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: that unlock your crypto. Your wallet opens the door for 131 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: your crypto to be used in the transaction, So like 132 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: you're buying in f T or a cup of coffee 133 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: in some innovative, forward thinking coffee house, your wallet allows 134 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: others to send you crypto, as your wallet has an 135 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: address that anyone can see. Again, we'll get into that 136 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: private first public concept shortly, and it can serve as 137 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: an actual key, like instead of using an email address 138 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: and password like you might sign into like you might 139 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: use to sign them too, like Instagram. You could use 140 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: your crypto wallet to sign into an online service, for instance, 141 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: open Sea, which we've talked a lot about on our 142 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: episodes about n f t S open seas in exchange, 143 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: like the Amazon of n f t S, you can 144 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: use your wallet to sign in to open Sea without 145 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: using like an email address and password, passwords and email 146 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: justice to log in our so web two all right, 147 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: And so the wallet could also store your dial token, 148 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: your distribute, your decentralized autonomous organization token, the things you 149 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: use to give you access to a party at the 150 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: upcoming afro Tech conference in Austin. You know that could 151 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: be stored in your crypto wallet. The token that you 152 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: used to get into the dial like Friends with Benefits 153 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: is a dial um for you by a black man 154 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: um to get into that party, you know you're gonna 155 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: have to bring your crypto wallet to get access because 156 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: your wallet is storing the token that that validates that 157 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: you have access to said party. Your wallet, so as 158 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,359 Speaker 1: you can tell, your wallet has a variety of functions, 159 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: and we just talked about some of the most criticals. 160 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: So what else should we know about a crypto wallet? Then, well, 161 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: how do you get one? UM? I'm gonna say that 162 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: conversation for a little later because there's a bit more 163 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: foundation I want to lay so you really get a 164 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: handle on what it is the wallet is and what 165 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: it does and the implications of having one UM. I've 166 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: said this a few times use these terms, these phrases. 167 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: A few times I mentioned keys, private keys, and public keys, 168 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: So this is a few times already, and I want 169 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: to dig in right now. UM what um what they are? 170 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Because when I say things like a public key that 171 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: allows any one to see you on the blockchain and 172 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: your activity on the block chain, that might scare you, Like, 173 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, why why does everybody get to see that 174 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I bought said n f T. Why does everybody get 175 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: to see that I sent John? You know one? Eight? 176 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Like why is that public knowledge? Well, you know number one, Like, 177 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: there's no more privacy that that concept of privacy is 178 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: you know a web two thing. Again, the world is changing. 179 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: So that's a different conversation for a different day. But 180 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the the public key is something that anybody can see 181 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: and you're not at risk of being hacked or someone 182 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: still in your crypto because they have access to your 183 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: public key. Your public key is supposed to be used. 184 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be um seeable because that's how you 185 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: can make transactions. Your public key is it's a cryptographic code. 186 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: It's a set of numbers and letters that allows you 187 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: to receive crypto or better, it allows the record of 188 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: an amount of crypto to move from my you know 189 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: point on the ledger the global ledger to your name 190 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: on the global ledger. So m walk with me for 191 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: a minute, because I don't want you to get confused 192 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: about this concept, and if it does, just hit rewind 193 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: and listen again. The public key that you have if 194 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: you have a wallet. Everybody has one. If you have 195 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: a wallet, it's it's like a two hundred fifty six 196 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: bit number, so but you will likely see more often 197 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: is the wallet address, which is a scrambled version of 198 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: that number. The address is a set of random characters, 199 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: and not Russian say random, but there are a set 200 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: of characters that have both letters and numbers in it, 201 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: and the address will always begin with A one, A three, 202 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: or a B C one. Digging deeper into that is 203 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: outside of the scope of this episode, but it's good 204 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: to know that. So let's say you want to send 205 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: me your address to send you an eat a single 206 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: ethereum coin. What you could do is on almost every wallet, 207 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: cold wallet or hot wallet software or hardware, there is 208 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: a copy paste feature that allows you to copy the 209 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: set of characters like a forty two you know character 210 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: um address, which is the public address of your wallet 211 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: um or, and most wallets give you this feature. You 212 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: can just pull up the QR code that I can 213 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: read with my smart device, my you know, iPhone or whatever, 214 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: and the QR code references your address that forty two 215 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: character A code. Um So, then just by doing that, 216 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I can send you THEA that I owe you. The 217 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: private key, however, is what allows anyone to put their 218 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: hands in your cookie jar. So stick the nubs into 219 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: your wallet and snatch your cryptough you don't want that. 220 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Your private key is something you should never share. There's 221 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: no reason any reputable transaction on the blockchain requires you 222 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: to share your private key. Any transaction you may engage 223 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: and should only require your public key. Think of it 224 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: as your token or ticket into the door or one 225 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: the one way door that allows money to you put 226 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: into your wallet. But by providing your private key to others, 227 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: you allow their unfettered access into your chips. You don't 228 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: want that. Typically, the private key is another set of 229 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: alpha numeric characters, and you unlock access to those characters, 230 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: which really don't do often what should you like to 231 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: These wallets give you a recovery phrase. So I'm gonna 232 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: dig into a cold wallet that I use really quickly. 233 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Cold means it's hardware. It's like not on the internet. Um, 234 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: it's a it's a device, you know. Most of them 235 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: look like a USB like little thumb drive. And so 236 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Ledger is the one that I use, a Ledger nano 237 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: x UM it's a cold wallet. More on that soon. 238 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: But they provide a recovery phrase which I have stored, 239 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: and once I enter that recovery phrase, it unlocks my 240 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: private keat again. Without that recovery phrase, I have no 241 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: access to my crypto, no reputable wallet again, hot or 242 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: cold should be storing my recovery phrase. In fact, when 243 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I signed up for Ledger, they give you a couple 244 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: like pieces of paper, a couple of cards like physical 245 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: pieces of paper that I can copy down with a 246 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: pen my recovery phrase and store it in a safe 247 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: place like whise choices, maybe a safe deposit box or 248 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: a fireproof box or in your gun safe or whatever. 249 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: And so your private key is protected by a recovery 250 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: phrase that are typically like words like these random words' 251 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: alleg you gives you twenty four words that are that 252 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: are in your recovery phrase, and they're like super super 253 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: random words like have house chair bright like these they're 254 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: just random words or they seem random words that don't 255 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: make any sense other otherwise. But they are the recovery 256 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: phrase that is used to unlock your private key. So 257 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: there are types of wallets that I want to discuss. UM. 258 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: There are three types that are most prominent, or really 259 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: there's three types. I should say that you should be 260 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: familiar with UM though you'll find I'm sure your groove 261 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: with probably one, maybe two of them, but I'm sure 262 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: you'll find one that you probably prefer first up. UM. 263 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: I would say it's probably lesser used, but that's speculation 264 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: because it's just harder to do it. It's it's paper wallet. 265 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: It's a paper wallet. As I mentioned before, your crypto, 266 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: your wallet, I'm sorry, it's just like a set of 267 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: alpha numeric characters that are your private key that unlock 268 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: your crypto. So a paper wallet is a sheet of 269 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: paper that you write down your characters, and using those characters, 270 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: you can unlock your assets. It's clunky this way, but 271 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: it's legitimate. You just need a sheet of paper that 272 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: has you can you can you can memorize them, you know, 273 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: if you want it. But it's a piece of paper. 274 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: A paper wallet, it is that UM records the characters 275 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: of your private key. Paper wallet UM more common because 276 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: it is easier, is an online wallet. These are things 277 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: like the coin based wallet, which I have. I have 278 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: one UM, I don't use it as much anymore UM, 279 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: which will discuss my reasons why. But a coin based wallet, 280 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: and there are others. UM is software. It's an app 281 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that is typically protected by like a two step encryption UM. 282 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: So it's likely gonna need like it's gonna send you 283 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: a text when you're trying to sign in, or it's 284 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna require something like Google Authenticator UM that code when 285 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: you try to sign in. But with your online wallet, 286 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: they're largely easy to use, which makes them attractive to 287 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: many because for people who are looking for simplicity and 288 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: don't want to have all the responsibility of meaning maintaining 289 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: a small device, like a hardware wallet, it typically is 290 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: keeping it safe and remembers location. UH. A hot wallet, 291 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: which is the software wallet UM is attractive, which brings 292 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: me to the hardware wallet UM. The this is called 293 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: a cold wallet UM. A hot wallet again is the 294 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: software the app that does it. The cold wallet is 295 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: hardware UM. Again, I use ledger. I have a nano 296 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: x is by ledger. UM is a wallet that is 297 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: not connected to the internet unless I plug it in. UM. 298 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: But it's it's storing my keys offline. It's stored my 299 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: keys are stored on the device. It's safer UM, provided 300 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't lose it. UM. But it does require me 301 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: to be incredibly more responsible. Is that all it makes sense? 302 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I hope it does. Cold wallet is hardware. It's offline. 303 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: It's not online, you know, unless I plug it in. 304 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: A hot wallet software which is like coin based wallet. 305 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: And there are many many others UM, but they are 306 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: on line, and there are third parties managing your crypto, 307 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: managing your keys. They both have their own bit of attractiveness. 308 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: If you are if you do not want to be 309 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: responsible for knowing where your device is, knowing where your 310 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: that paper is, knowing where that little thumb drive that 311 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: we call a that I call a ledger in my 312 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: my my respects a nano x or other device that 313 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: you use. If you don't want to be responsible for that, 314 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: something like a coin based wallet might work for you, 315 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Which brings me to UM. The topic of a const 316 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: custodio or non custodiol at this stage because they have 317 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: so many implications too. Hot or cold wallets, hardware or 318 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: software wallets, UM, custodio and non custodio. It makes sense 319 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: to discuss those now because the definitions go hand in 320 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: hand with the wallet types. Custodio wallets are like software. 321 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Those are the wallets that we are trusting knowingly or 322 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: unknowingly a third party like coin base or some other 323 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: company to manage our crypto with a custodia wallet, while 324 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: it might be encrypted, it's throwed on somebody's server somewhere 325 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: like maybe AWS, or maybe that company has their own 326 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: server farm. But in any case, somebody else, the custodian 327 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: is managing their holding tight to our private keys. The 328 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: benefits of this custodian wallet is just what we discussed convenience, 329 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: playing simple. They're a lot easier to use. They're built 330 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: for the lowest common denominator. Not to say that cold 331 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: wallets are not built for the lowest common denominators, but 332 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: they are custodial that they're somewhere we get to hold 333 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: somebody's hand when we crossed the street. All right, so 334 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: beautifully designed, um, but we don't have to a lot 335 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: of responsibility to get to point B from where we 336 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: are in point eight. But God forbid that coin base 337 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: gets hacked, because that means you are susceptible, and whatever 338 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, coins I have left in my coin base 339 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: is susceptible. So I don't leave my crypto in my 340 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: coin base app. I choose to be responsible, So I 341 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: choose to go the non custodial route, which means that 342 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: I am fully grown, no longer holding anyone's hand when 343 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I crossed the street. I am taking full ownership of 344 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: my future. In Web three, my data isn't stored on 345 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: some company servers. The only records present of my private 346 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: keys are you know the record actually the only records 347 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: present about anything about my activity or or either on 348 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: the blockchain or on my device. There is no like 349 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: online service hold onto will Lucas data. I own it. 350 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: It's in my It's right now, sitting right in front 351 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: of me. And whoever records whatever records I keep on 352 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: my person or in my house, let that be my 353 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: private keys or whatever. There is no authority or company 354 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: or app holding onto it but me. I own it 355 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: fully and outright, both the benefits and the responsibility Lastly, UM, 356 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: as we've talked a lot about coin base and Ledger 357 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: in this episode, I want to take a final few 358 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: minutes here and set the record clear about the differences 359 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: between an exchange and a wallet. Um. In most in 360 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: the most basic terms, a crypto exchange is like you 361 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: ever been in the airport and next to like Chick 362 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: fil a, they have a counter where you can exchange 363 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: your euro for US dollars or exchange your U S 364 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: dollars for renman. B Um, it's an exchange desk, and 365 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: there's an exchange rate. And so I'm gonna make this 366 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: up because I could look. But unless it's a matter 367 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: of fact, let's let's do the real work here and 368 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: find exchange rate from U S d to Euro Boom okay, 369 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: So for one U S dollar I can get eighty 370 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: nine cents in euros Okay, one one dollar equals eighty 371 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: nine cents in Europe. So it kind of works the same, 372 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: well it does. It works the same way, So one 373 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: dollar one type the same one U S dollar to 374 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: one So for one dollar, well not much. Let's just 375 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: do it backwards. If I want one, if I have 376 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: to pay two thousand, eight hundred dollars as of right now. Okay, 377 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: let's did it backwards, because it's going to be like 378 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: points years years, years, years, ARLs or something if I 379 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: do it the other way. You guys are pretty good 380 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: at math. So for one for two thousand eight dollars, 381 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: I can buy one at president value that is the 382 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: exchange rate, and so on an exchange, I can trade 383 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: my US dollars for ethereum, or for a bitcoin, or 384 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: for dose or for shiba. And exchange is not a wallet. 385 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: But in this case, like coin base, a company who 386 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: develops an exchange can also develop a wallet. They they 387 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: are mutually exclusive, but they don't have to be. The 388 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: coin Base could have just said we're gonna think in 389 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: the exchange game, we're not gonna do a wallet, but 390 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: they decided to play in the wallet game too. I 391 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: mentioned that I also have a coin based wallet, So 392 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: that wallet, whether or not it's developed by coin based, 393 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: is software or hardware. In the case of my ledger 394 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: that allows me to store my coins. I can make 395 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: transactions using my wallet. I cannot make transactions with dollars 396 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: that are stored on the exchange. The exchange is just 397 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: where I'm playing the money game. I'm going back and 398 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: forth exchanging my dollars from our bitcoin or from more ethereum, retcetera. 399 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: But if I want to go buy a cup of 400 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: coffee at some you know, cool, you know coffeehouse, I 401 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: need to have my money moved off of the exchange 402 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: and into a wallet. I can't also sign into a 403 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: service using an exchange my exchange account. I need to 404 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: have my wallet set up. So let's use open Seed. 405 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: We use open see a lot as an example, because 406 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, we're heavy users of open See, the Amazon 407 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: of n f t s, and so if I want 408 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: to sign in to open Seed to buy an inn 409 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: f T, I cannot do it using any you know 410 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: password or user name that I have on coin based 411 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the exchange. I need to have a coin based wallet 412 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: set up in order to sign in to open See 413 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: and many many other Web three platforms require you to 414 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: have a wallet. You gotta have a wallet to sign 415 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: into these things. So whether or not you use something 416 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: like Ledger or coin based, one of the features of 417 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: the wallet. It's also that they show you how much 418 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: you own of a particular coin, and some may even 419 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: show you the present value of those things. So if 420 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I own one eight ledger, the dashboard might show me 421 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: that that one E present value is two thousand five dollars. 422 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: So I love doing these episodes about crypto, blockchain, n 423 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: f t S, and more with you guys, And I 424 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: want to know where questions you guys have because I'm 425 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna be having some really really cool conversations with even 426 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: more experts in the field of crypto on this show. 427 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: And so I want to know what you guys have 428 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: questions about. 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