1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and now he arm Strong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: While both the US and around are speaking of progressing talks, 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: both also seem to be preparing for the possibility of war, 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: the Pentagon sending a second carrier strike group to the region, 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: and at the same time, the Iranian and US negotiators 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: met in Geneva Tuesday. I Ran closing the strait of 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: Home Moves is a vital shipping lane, using it now 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: for live fire exercises and joint military exercises, a plan 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: tomorrow with Russia. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: That he and panel of ABC News saying both sides 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: are preparing for war. There are lots of news outlets 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: suggesting that we are barreling toward a real war with 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: a real country. Shocking how little coverage this gets. I 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: don't know what to say about that. I think it's 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: because we've had a couple of you know, we bombed 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: the crap out of somebody for a couple of hours 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and then get out of there without losing a plane 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: or a single person. Grab Maduro, a couple of things 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: like that, and just I was comparing it to when 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: the Iraq War started, the Second Iraq War in two 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: thousand and three, and the whole country was talking about it, right, 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: it was a national was actually a national debate over 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: whether it's a good old night. But that was like 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: still the hangover from Vietnam of getting involved in wars 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. Apparently we've now had 28 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: so many it doesn't really affect me. Sorts of military 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: exercises that nobody cares. 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what I think. That's one of several factors. 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: We've had several pretty successful hit and run type operations, 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: including the miraculous success of the Maduro snatching, including the 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: use of the discombobulator, which is amazing if you didn't 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: hear that segment, to grab it by a podcast Armstrong 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: and getting on demand. But you also have the never 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: ending volume of the modern world, the modern you know, 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: media world. There's shouting about every single story all the time. 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: So I think people are overwhelmed and they're having difficulty 39 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: figuring out which of the stories to pay attention to. 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's a number of things, but yeah, Trump 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: and company have established themselves as miraculously good. Well, the 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: United States military at hit and run type operations, but 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: Iran would not be that probably unless they lay down 44 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: their arms and say uncle. 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well. 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Mark Halprin's reporting over the weekend, talking to people in 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the White House in the Pentagon, he said, there is 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a real good chance of a sustained war with Iran, 49 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: like many strikes weeks, all kinds of different ways of 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: attacking them, attempted at regime change, the whole thing, and 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: with Iran obviously fighting back. Here's another version of a 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: news report from the story is which is on news 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Nation or I don't know where that is, but anyway, 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: go ahead. 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: A massive US military build up is underway in the 56 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 5: Middle East, even as the US and Iran are back 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: at the negotiating table. It's clear the United States is 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 5: preparing for possible military action. Over the course of the 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 5: last month, more than two hundred and fifty US military 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: cargo planes have landed in theater. That's a significant uptick 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: in activity, which suggests some of these flights are tied 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: to preparations for potential operations against Iran. 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: They absolutely are. Yeah, this is not some sort of 64 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: saber rattling thing. 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: Whether Trump pulls the trigger or not, I'm nobody knows, 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: but he's absolutely loading the gun. Yeah, and I tend 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: to buy the argument that they've Iran has killed more 68 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: American soldiers than any other country on Earth over the 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: last half a century. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: They've been a problem for the world. 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: They're the leading exporterer of terror around the world for 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: a half a century. They're never going to be weaker 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: than they are right now. They want a nuclear weapon 74 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: really bad. Why in the hell wouldn't you take them 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: out when you got the chance. That's the direction I lead. 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: They're also infamously bad faith negotiators, which I think we're 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: probably about to get into. 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Can we hear from jd Vance He was talking about 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: this yesterday on Fox News. 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: I'd be fifty four, Michael. 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: We would very much like, as the President has said, 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 6: to resolve this through a conversation and a diplomatic negotiation. 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 6: But the President has all options on the table. And 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 6: you know, one thing about the negotiation I will say 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 6: this morning is you know, in some ways it went well, 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: they agreed to meet afterwards. But in other way is 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: it was very clear that the President has set some 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: red lines that the Iranians are not yet willing to 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 6: actually acknowledge and work through. 90 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: So we're going to. 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 6: Keep on working it. But of course the president was 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: deserves the ability to say when he thinks that diplomacy 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 6: has reached its natural end. We hope it don't get 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 6: to that point. But if we do, that'll be the 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 6: president's call. 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: So I'll be. 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Involved in those talks indirectly, and they'll be very important. 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: You we'll see what can happen. Specifically, rants are very 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: tough negotiating, the good negotiators or bad. I would say 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: they're bad negotiators. 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: JD saying that they have not yet acknowledged the red 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: lines that Trump has said is absolutely necessary. Another way 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: to put that, and I saw in a headline, was 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 4: that they were ignoring the red lines. They were acting 105 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: as if they didn't exist. They were negotiating about other things, 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 4: which is the Iranian strategy to string along, string you along, 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: come to an agreement, then dishonor at the minute they 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: strike it, not let the inspectors in claim some sort 109 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: of offense or whatever, and then go back to doing 110 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: what they're doing. I think that's probably a company are 111 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: not going to let them do that. 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that's partially because a lot of countries Aran, Russia, 113 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: China think the United States does not have the stomach 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: for an actual war politically true, which they might be right, 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: although the president gets to make that call. I'm looking 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: up at ABC News. They are I Panels on there 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: right now talking about latest round of talks with Iran. 118 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: But they had to get through missing woman and skiers 119 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: and avalanches and stuff like that before we got to 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: one of the biggest builds up build ups in the 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Middle East ever that's going on right now. Okay, well, 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes. And the thing with it is. 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: If you're not a student of this sort of activity, 124 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: wars regularly. 125 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Go. 126 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: It's like the alignment problem with AI. There's an alignment 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: problem with wars. You got a goal, you got a plan, 128 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you got a timetable, and all kinds of different things 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: come out. And we got one news story here about 130 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Russia's doing some military maneuvers with Iran. Russia gets pulled in, 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: somebody else gets hit. Now you're more blah blah blah. 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: All kinds of strange things can happen in wars. Yeah, 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. 134 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: So as the Iranians are as they usually do, trying 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: to string things along through negro negotiations so they can 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: you know, run their playbook I just described. I honestly 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: think Trump is saying, yeah, that's fine. In fact, he 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: gave them a two week deadline, I think, which is 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: fine because he's getting the assets in place to give 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: him a good hard whacken. 141 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: I suspect that's. 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: Where it ends that there is a significant military strike 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: against Iran. I would put it with them fighting the 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: one percent confidence, with them fighting back or not, because 145 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: they didn't really fight back this last time. It was 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: mostly symbolic, mostly yes, with them fighting yeah, I think so. 147 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: I think they'll see it as an existential threat. 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: And they'll thirsh on attack our troops various bases, which. 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: Will bring on, in all likelihood, the true awesome, terrifying 150 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 4: might of the United States military. 151 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: I would assume. 152 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we've had a somebody 153 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: attacks one of our bases and kills four hundred marines 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, if that's on the table, 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: and that how that's going to get America's attention, going 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: to get Trump's attention? 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Right? Oh? Yeah? 158 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: Well, and Trump, I think is an escalator, and the 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: Mullahs in the Republican Guard have got to be contemplating 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: that they cannot count on a Biden Obama style. Oh 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: my god, this has gone farther than I thought. We'll 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: be the ones to back down, not from Trump. 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: Right or an Obama don't Their foreign policy motto was 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: don't do stupid s. The problem being, as we've said 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: a thousand times, not doing something is a decision. 166 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Trump is a dice roller man, he really is. 167 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: This could easily end up being the legacy of his 168 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: presidency if oh yeah, we get a full on war 169 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: with Iran and ends up with a different leadership, or 170 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: it goes really poorly. Like I said, wors can always 171 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: go off the rails and directions you just can't even imagine. 172 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last fifty years of relations with Iran have 173 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: been pretty off the rails. And I'm not calling for war. 174 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: I don't get a vote, but I think it's likely. 175 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Do you think we give him a timeline to get 176 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: out at some point? Say you got seventy two hours 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: to get out or. 178 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Like we did with Sadam, didn't we did? You got 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: till Friday at noon? Basically what w said. 180 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: Well, the word is they're already packed in case those 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: protests got out of hand more out of hand. So yeah, 182 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: they could probably turn it around forty eight hours or so. 183 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: Do the protests play any role in it? 184 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: At this point? They may have motivated Trump? He really, 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: you know, for all. 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: Of his bizarre psyche psychological ma, he really doesn't like 187 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: to see people killed. 188 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: You know, I've been saying for years Trump is going 189 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: to be Trump is unique in every way, but Trump 190 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: is going to be unique in that I don't know 191 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: what kind of books are ever going to be written 192 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: about him because so few people, you know, know what 193 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: he's thinking. I mean, he does stuff. He comes up 194 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: with ideas in the middle of the night and tweets 195 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: him out. 196 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: And the great thinkers of the president in the future 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: are going to try to suss that out, to try 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: to get a handle on his thinking, and they will 199 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: only be partially successful at best. 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Right as opposed to most presidents, where they sit around 201 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: and have you know, endless meetings with ten people in 202 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: the room on every single decision, and every one of 203 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: those people writes a book or or or is featured 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: in a book. Trump's not gonna really have that except 205 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: for maybe Susie Wilds. She might be the biggest book 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: contract out there. She might be the person with the 207 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: best idea of what it was actually like in the 208 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Trump White House for all these different things. Might not 209 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: be anybody else on planet Earth that really has that access. 210 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how much. 211 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: Access jd Vance has these days. I suspect it's more 212 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: than most vice presidents. 213 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 214 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: No idea crazy, but this could happen any hour, this 215 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: attack on Iran, and just you know, don't be shocked 216 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: when we're at war with a major country and they're 217 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: fighting back as Joe second tier country, second tier, you 218 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: don't put them in the major tier category. Who's in 219 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: the major tier category? Nope, nobody but Russia in China 220 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: in terms of enemies. 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: Wow, in terms of military capability, Yeah, you got to 222 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: give me a minute to concoct that to I mean, 223 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: it's unfair to say they're not a superpower. 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. 225 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: I think they're more of a paper tiger than than 226 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: they would have you believe. 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: I hope you're right. That'd be awesome. 228 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: I also feel like, and dang, we're swearing we were 229 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: going to break on time. I also think the enormous 230 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: boiling hatred and resentment of the regime among the people 231 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: of Iran has absolutely spread to the armed forces. We 232 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: just haven't seen that bitter flower bloom yet, but it might. 233 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: There's another Epstein story today. Zuckerbird's taking the stand any minute, 234 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: and we'll have any details on that in the social 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: media trialing lots coming up. 236 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: Stay here. 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Even sixty minutes. Thinks RFK Junior's right about ultra processed 238 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: food and Shia Laboof for the movie Star is having 239 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: a hell. 240 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Of a Marti Gras. More on that later. 241 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: All right, So this is just too good. You heard 242 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: about the Washington Post layoffs. Jeff Bezos says, all right, 243 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: we're losing one hundred million dollars a year. 244 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: This has got to stop. 245 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: Well, a bunch of the staffers and right that the 246 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: journalist said we won't accept this. 247 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: They made various statements about why doesn't. 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: He just keep supporting it, Why is he cutting as 249 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: if they have a right to have him lose one 250 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars a year? 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. So this is great. 252 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: They staged a demonstration at the WAPO yesterday. I think 253 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: it was or the day before, and here is the 254 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: leader of the walkout setting the tone for their attitude. 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: And the setup for this is sometimes you think these 256 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: people are nuts. Then you think, no, they just see 257 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: the world differently, they have different opinions. No, they're actually 258 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: freaking nuts. 259 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 7: And the thing right now to show the management that 260 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 7: they can't travel our rights and they can't just roll 261 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 7: us over today is you can help someone's scary day. 262 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: But because every. 263 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 7: One's here to demonstrate our collective power, we're. 264 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: Going to be doing this again. 265 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: So they're going to demonstrate their rights, their right to 266 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: work at the Washington Post. 267 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Right journalism. Nobody wants to read right. 268 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 7: Our plan is to walk into the building and show 269 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: our right to work. Management has locked us out. I 270 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 7: want to show them they can't just do it. 271 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: Let's go No, this can't be real. 272 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: These are real that are journalists that made it to 273 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. 274 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's like one of the top spots on 275 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: planet Earth. 276 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: You thought, yeah, Beta males and women wearing masks. By 277 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: the way, if you're trying to picture them, the roll 278 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: the next one, Michael and I'll be talking over it. 279 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: So they go in with their passes, their work passes, 280 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: roll it, roll it. They go in with their work 281 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: passes and are trying to get through the turnstiles, the 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: security turnstiles. That's the beeping you're hearing. But of course 283 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: it's not working because their passes have been invalidated, their 284 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: key cards. You got to shut off deck. 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: So how long do you think keep trying there? It comes? 286 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 7: Is a right to be in the building, is a 287 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 7: right to work, has a right to be inside the 288 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: Washington Post and work doing our jobs, and they are 289 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 7: refusing to let us in. This is ridiculous and the outrage. 290 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 7: Jeff Bezos formerly ce oh will Lewis the needs and 291 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 7: Matt manahatan, we deserve to work in this building. 292 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: You know if he if he worked at Dutch Brothers Coffee, 293 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: I would think you're not qualified for this sort of work. 294 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: You don't have a right to work anywhere. 295 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Is you know one of the things that's happened in 296 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: recent years. 297 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: You for too much analysis that indulge me here, Okay, 298 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: what is this protest? 299 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Missing a good chant? 300 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Michael's enthusiastics. 301 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: If you if you had to measure the testosterone in 302 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: that channel, there are there are four four of your 303 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: little things swimmer. 304 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: Four toll boy. 305 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 306 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: One thing that has happened over recent years, and I 307 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: don't remember where it started, but like it happened with 308 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: the CDC because of COVID, had happened with all the universities. 309 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: You're seeing it here with these Washington Post reports. US 310 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: normal people had a view of elite of being. You know, 311 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't agree with them, and they're pompous, but I 312 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: assume they're really really smart. 313 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not. 314 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh, and they're not the people at these universities that 315 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: went there or teach there, or the people in the CDC, 316 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: or the people who write for the top newspapers in 317 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: the world or whatever. 318 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: They're just they're not smarter than me. I always assumed 319 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: they were, but they're not. 320 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: They're just self righteous and they're willing to hurt people 321 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: who disagree with them so they get their way. They're bullies, 322 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: the happy bullies. That guy sounds like a moron. They 323 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: have a right to our care, we have a right 324 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: to do our work. 325 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 326 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: Wow, that guy sounds like I might have had one 327 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: functioning testicle that was the only one in the crowd. 328 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: Only now, well, a field can sounds parade, Wow, Armstrong 329 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: and Getty. 330 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 8: During her trip to Munich, AOC was asked how the 331 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 8: US should respond to a Taiwan invasion, and she could 332 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 8: barely answer the question. In fact, she froze so badly 333 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 8: Mitch McConnell asked if she was okay, wow wow. 334 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: So he has the opportunity to take a shot at AOC, 335 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: but he makes it a shot at really at Mitch McConnell. 336 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Really an elderly man who's you know. I wonder if 337 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: this could turn out to be the best thing ever 338 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: happened AOC. Maybe she realizes, oh, okay, I got to 339 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: really get my act together and like really study up 340 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: and have a staff get her all beefed up on 341 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: all these different things. So she's ready to go to 342 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: run for president, or she's not interested like Kamala Harris 343 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be interested in like ever learning and stuff. 344 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: They're incapable. 345 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think AOC is terribly bright 346 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: other than a fair amount of verbal skill. But I 347 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 4: don't think too many complicated ideas are rattling around in 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: that pretty little head of hers. So let's take a 349 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: look at a handful of headlines. We can dwell on 350 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: them as long. 351 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: As you wish, or we wish were dweller, just moved swiftly. Well, 352 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: we may dwell, we may not. 353 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: Former Penn president Liz McGill, who resigned in disgrace disastrous 354 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: anti semitism testimony named dean of Georgetown Law. 355 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: Oh, you've gotta be kidding. I wish I were not. 356 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Wow, she was nationally humiliated and run out of one 357 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: elite university, goes to maybe a more elite position. 358 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 359 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: Uh, there has been practically no progress made in college campuses. 360 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: There have been a couple of big, you know, much 361 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: valley hooded settlements and Trump lawsuits and agreements and stuff 362 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: like that. 363 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: But on the ground, the battle is just begun. 364 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I was actually reading about USA Iran 365 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: negotiations New York Times, and uh, there's some talk in 366 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: there that they're willing to halt their efforts to get 367 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon for at least three years, which the 368 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: New York Times points out is the end of Trump's term. 369 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: And then they believe there'll likely be a democratic administration 370 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: who will be like Biden Obama and let them do 371 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: whatever the hell they want. Similar to college campuses in 372 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: the whole you know, battle on woke. I'm sure a 373 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of that crowd thinks we just got to wait 374 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: this out for three more years and then and then 375 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna stop us. 376 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: We can teach, you keep teaching the kids. Mars Marxist. Yeah, 377 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: absolutely true. Ah, let's see, oh a wit, here's another headline. 378 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: Trump administration sues Harvard for withholding race related data admission 379 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: admissions data. Rather, Department of Justice sued Harvard, accusing the 380 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: Ivy League school withholding all the admissions data that you 381 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: could use to figure out whether they're still doing affirmative action. 382 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: Indeed, and maybe the most elite university Unplanet Earth, is 383 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: racist in their deciding who gets to go to college there. 384 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: They base it on race, and then they're hiding the 385 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: information so they don't get sued about it. 386 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: How do you like that? And they're the ones that 387 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: lecture us. Yeah, exactly? Is it? 388 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter? Two point zero? A Muslim charity has 389 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 4: launched an internal review after independent journalists figures out their 390 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: tax forms showed millions raised for Gaza relief flowed to 391 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: an anti Israel influencer, prominent Muslim charity he conducting an 392 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 4: internal review of its relationship with anti Israel influencer Colored 393 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: Bay doone as it faces growing questions over two million 394 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: dollars it paid to by Doon for relief initiatives that 395 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: were advertised as providing water and other aid to the 396 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: Gaza Strip. So, just like Black Lives Matter, a few 397 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: at the top drained the payments to make themselves rich. 398 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Shock shock, shock, just unbelievable. 399 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: Human Appeal USA, which bills itself as America's leading Muslim 400 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 4: humanitarian organization blah blah blah. The group, an American offshoot 401 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: of the UK based Human Appeal, launched the internal review 402 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: after a firestorm over their twenty twenty four taxes. Okay, 403 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: there again, I'm just shocked to the core. Moving along 404 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: totally different story. Protectionism and tariffs serve K Street and 405 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: hurt Main Street. More studies have come out that say 406 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: all the tariffs are doing is making lobbyists rich. Nearly 407 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: five hundred percent increase in lobbying revenues tied to tariffs 408 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty five compared to 409 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. 410 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: I was unaware of this until the whole tariff regime hit. 411 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: It makes sense once you once you're you know, schooled 412 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: on it. When you have tariffs, it becomes all about 413 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: the carve outs for which which company or business product, 414 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: product or the tariffs don't count for. And so you 415 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: hire these lobbyists to really appeal to the president. So 416 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: he decides that everything but this kind of computer chip 417 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: or this kind of farm product or whatever. Right, And 418 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in that and lobways. That's 419 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: one of the problems with tariffs. It always ends up 420 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: like this. 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: Right, right, and it always ends up benefiting the big guys. 422 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: The lobbying field isn't I'm sorry, the lobbying playing field 423 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: doesn't level either. While big tech, big pharma, and the 424 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: big three makers have benefited from special tariff exemptions right 425 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 4: It's National Review, small businesses like the family owned Fish 426 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: USA Tackle Company in Pennsylvania, the Vermont based women's cycling 427 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: company Precision Terry, Precision Cycling, a bunch of little companies 428 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: in short, don't have the time, money, or influence to 429 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: acquire similar exemptions. Those small businesses are among five plaintiffs 430 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: receiving pro bono legal services to challenge the legality of 431 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 4: the tariff sith Supreme Court, and then they mentioned that 432 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: as K Street thrives, Main Street pays tariff revenues, exploding 433 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: to nearly two hundred and ninety billion dollars in twenty 434 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: twenty five, the equivalent of almost twenty two hundred dollars 435 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 4: for every American household, but foreign countries don't pay tariff costs. 436 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: February report from the Federal Reserve Bank in New York 437 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: is to Mading that nearly ninety percent of the tariff's 438 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: economic burden fell on US firms and consumers. I happen 439 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: to believe they're true. I think Trump does a lot 440 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 4: of things that are great. I think this is absolutely 441 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: terrible and indefensible, and I want him to stop. 442 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: If you need to be in a better mood. The 443 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Blade Angels take the ice tonight. Are you familiar with 444 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: the Blade Angels? Sort of handful of female US skaters 445 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: who are being called the Blade Angels and. 446 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: Takes by me either or not for the record, And. 447 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is like really into him, and oh, I'm 448 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: allergic to cutesie and now I have hives. And now 449 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the Blade Angels have been attached to the Showgirls song 450 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: from her album song I really like, by the way, 451 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: And so you got the whole Taylor Swift Blade angels 452 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Ice skating thing coming together tonight on NBC. 453 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be drinking Scotch alone in the dark, muttering 454 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: angrily thank you. And then why don't we cap off 455 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 4: the discussion, although I've got a dozen more stories that 456 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: are so interesting. But we've been talking about and probably 457 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: will again the giant social media trial happening in La 458 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: Mark Zuckerberg aka Satan will be testifying today, right. 459 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think he's on the stand right now. Actually, wow, 460 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: they just summon him up. We would now like to 461 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: talk to Mark Zuckerberg, and and he just appears. 462 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 463 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: Anyway. I absolutely love this. I'm reading your minds, folks. 464 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: You're thinking, boy, I love posting online. I love offering 465 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: up my life for other people's entertainment that they actually 466 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: just scroll through and don't look at. 467 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Anyway. 468 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: And I've spent my entire life thinking no thing I 469 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 4: do or experience has any validity unless I put it online. 470 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: But you're thinking the only problem is when I die, 471 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to post anymore. Well, 472 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: I have good news for you. Meta was granted a 473 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: patent in late December that nobody really noticed. That outlines 474 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: how a large language model can simulate a person's social 475 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: media activity, such as responding to content posted by real 476 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: people who are not dead, and I quote the language 477 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: model may be used for simulating the user when the 478 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: user is absent from the social networking system, for example, 479 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: when the user takes a long break, or if the 480 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: user is deceased, so you can continue commenting on your 481 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: friend's idiotic vacation pictures after your dead, or when you're 482 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: quote unquote taking long break. 483 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: Here's something I was thinking about yesterday, kind of along 484 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: those lines. I don't think there's enough attention paid to 485 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: what becomes of your digital life when you die. 486 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: True. 487 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Uh, I have gazillions of pictures in my phone, some 488 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: of which I would rather nobody ever saw. Is that 489 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: a bad idea? I mean, like, if I die, if 490 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I get in a car wreck today, does somebody get 491 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: access to my phone? 492 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: And if so? Why? Uh? Wow? Wow? 493 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: They are legitimate law enforcement reasons. Other than that, Man, 494 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: I'd have to think about it and consult experts. But 495 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 4: it's a great question. 496 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, if there's a crime. There's law enforcement readings. 497 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: But if I just I have a heart attack and 498 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: die right now, which I might, I've had a lot 499 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: of coffee, does somebody get into my phone? I mean 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: other than like Michael bringing in here holding it up 501 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: against my dead face, what unlocks and then scrolling through. 502 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: My right right? Yeah? 503 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: And then we'll post the really filthy stuff online for 504 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 4: clicks and likes. 505 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're embarrassing, Michael. Were you going to say something? 506 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 7: No? 507 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: I was just agreeing with you. Yeah. Yeah, So here's 508 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: what you do. You write it into there your will. 509 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: If anybody so much just tries to unlock my phone 510 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: after I die, every penny goes to the American Nazi Party, 511 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: all right, Otherwise you t kids inherit equally blah blah blah, 512 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: and donate a certain amount of money to to you know, 513 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: Pacific Legal Foundation blah blah blah, as I probably will. 514 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Every penny goes to the Nazis. If anybody messages with. 515 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Me, care, am I the only one who has photos 516 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: or text conversations or emails that they'd rather nobody ever saw? 517 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: Oh? No, quick, the yappas. 518 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: Every air sucking homo safeian on earth has got stuff 519 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: that is not meant for public consumption. 520 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: Or their kids or you know whoever being aware of Well, imagine, 521 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: just imagine that conversations you've had about your kids, well 522 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: meaning conversations, but could be very hurtful to them if 523 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: they got to read them. 524 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that alone. 525 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: We've all had to get the experience for instance, And Katie, 526 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: feel free to jump in when where somebody would cared 527 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: about very much was going through something and we misunderstood 528 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: something from them and blah blah blah, and it got 529 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: worked out in the end. 530 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: But you don't need all the raw material to come up. 531 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: It would be like the Epstein files. You'd get into, 532 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, just cherry picking stuff. Yes, Katie, No, just 533 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: if anyone answered no to your question, Jack, they're lying, 534 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: Oh okay, good. I didn't know if I was an 535 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: outlire on that or not. I actually thought about this 536 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: yesterday as I have a lot of shirt the selfies 537 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: in my phone of me, it is so many nips 538 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's like to keep track of my progress. And 539 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: so I've been working out for three years now and 540 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: I can look back at like two years ago. Okay, 541 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually accomplishing something here. But I thought, if I 542 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: die and so we looked at this, I come off 543 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: as the world's biggest narcissist or something, or. 544 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: A guy on grinder. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm into clown porn. 545 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna put it out there right now, right 546 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: so nobody can be called browser history is a nightmare 547 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: of clown and porn. Okay, erotic clowns. That's my thing. Hey, 548 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: we need to tell you about our friends at rough Greens. 549 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: It's not a new food for your dog. It's a 550 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: supplement to your dog's food, a live nutritional supplement you 551 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: add to your dog's food. 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Are u f f Greens 571 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: dot com promo code Armstrong. 572 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Maybe this already exists, but remember we were doing ads 573 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: for a while. For you need a trust. You should 574 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: have a trust or a will or whatever. If you're 575 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: passing blah blah blah. Be a good idea to have 576 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: a will. How about a company that takes care of 577 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: your digital life. If you don't have a plan for 578 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: your digital life after you die, here's what could happen. 579 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Couple of scary scenarios that we just went through. And 580 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: then here's what we can do for you. And it's 581 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: some sort of you know, it's like having a will 582 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: or trust. You fill out yourself, the passwords are there, 583 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and cleaning your digital house after you pass. Yeah, so 584 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't fall into the hands of you know Uncle 585 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: Ed who you never got along with, and now he's 586 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: posting everything from your phone. 587 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Or I don't know what happens to your phone after 588 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: you die? 589 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Seriously, does somebody throw it away or do they hand 590 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: it to your your kid or your wife or whoever 591 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: is closest to you at the time, and all of 592 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: a sudden they have access to everything. 593 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm horrified by this. Yeah, I wouldn't. I would not 594 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: want that. 595 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want it to got handled to you, or 596 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to have to handed someone else. 597 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: No, it's just gonna say, if, like Judy, God forbid, 598 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: passes before me, I have no desire to pall through 599 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: her phone and uncover anything. No, I know her to 600 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: the extent that we're for us. If she has aspects 601 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: of her life or personality that I'm not aware of 602 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 4: after all these years, probably for good reason. 603 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. 604 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: Well, that is a good, healthy and I'm thinking rare 605 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: attitude is the problem. I am what I am? So 606 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: what do you do about the other people? That's why 607 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: you need a company for that? What happens to your phone? 608 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: And I don't have that situation. I'm single, my phone's 609 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: just I get in a car wreck, my phone just 610 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: laying there on the highway. My head's over there, my 611 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: phone's over there, and let's take a look, everybody. Look 612 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: it's unlocked. All right, More on the way, stay here. 613 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: Where's just discussing what happens to your digital life after 614 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: you die. Like if I had a heart attack right now, 615 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: who has who gets my phone and gets access to it? 616 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: And I would be. 617 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Horrified if various pictures slash information was you know, just 618 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: out there available to people, and I don't have a 619 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: plan for it. Smart people have a plan for these things. 620 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not a smart person, so I don't. A 621 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: number of people texted that. For instance, if you're the 622 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: executor of a situation, you get access to it, so 623 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: like I'm the executor if my parents pass on. But 624 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: similar to what Joe is just talking about, I have 625 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: no interest in pawing through my parents' emails or stuff like, 626 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even look at it. I have no interest 627 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: in doing that. So that would be fine, But you 628 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: got to have somebody in near life like that, and 629 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: not everybody does. But then somebody brought up to the 630 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: photos and this is true for me. Okay, So even 631 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: if my kids were like, you know, I'm not going 632 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: to look through dad's phone. We know private is private, 633 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, we'd like all the kids pictures. I 634 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: got thousands and thousands and thousands of kids pictures in 635 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: there that aren't anywhere else but in the cloud or 636 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: on my phone. They're also interspersed with lots of other things. 637 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there'd be no way you could look through 638 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: those kids photos without coming across the other stuff. Maybe 639 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: that's just you gotta make albums. Maybe that's just an 640 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: organizational problem. And yeah, I know I should have, but 641 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: I never have got it. Would I can't imagine how 642 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: many hours that would take at this point to try 643 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: to even do that. 644 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: Well, just take out your filthy stuff and put it 645 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: in an album labeled I don't know, tax forms or something, 646 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 4: or have it password protected or something. 647 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like a lot of work. 648 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: By See, you got your erotic selfies together with your kids' 649 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: birthday parties. 650 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: That's just wrong. I just what if the one thing 651 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: leaks into the other. That's just I have all. 652 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: My pictures just in the main picture thing. I don't 653 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: have albums. Yeah, so it's like kid's birthday party. Look, 654 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: there's dog doing something cute shirtless self me of me, 655 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: of the gym than another. 656 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: Kids told those are not good to be mixed together 657 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: like that. 658 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 4: Do we have more text to get to or no? 659 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 4: I was gonna throw in one more thing just from 660 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: this article I was looking at. They reminded us that 661 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 4: you remember there was the replica and AI chatbot startup 662 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 4: that could imitate grim based on her voice. 663 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, video t apes or whatever. 664 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 4: Oh Billy, I'm so glad you made the Little League 665 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: team here. Granny has been gone for three years. And 666 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 4: then they got a couple of other ones. Microsoft in 667 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 4: patent had an AI chatbot that could simulate a deceased 668 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: person as well as fictional characters or celebrities, which sounds 669 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: like fun. But they end this with a piece or 670 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: some thoughts from Joseph Davis, Social Professor, University of Virginia. 671 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: He was concerned with the impact the tools like this 672 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: could have on humans experiencing grief. 673 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: Quote. 674 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 4: One of the tasks of grief is to face the 675 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: actual loss. Let the dead be dead, the idea of 676 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 4: bringing them back, but you're not really doing that. But 677 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: in fact, it looks like you are. That's the confusion. 678 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: That's not healthy. 679 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: I remember playing clips of the time at the time 680 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: of this story broke from people that just thought it 681 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: was wonderful to have Grandma, who's been dead for years, 682 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: telling Billy that he did a good job in Little 683 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: League this year. I think it's weird. Billy's gonna need counseling. 684 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: The only thing I want played at my funeral is 685 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: a fight between Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. 686 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: Just play that. I'll be happy. Wow. 687 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: If you have any thoughts, you can text us four one, five, two, nine, 688 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: five KFTC A lot more in hour three, want to 689 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: get to that sixty minute story about ultra processed food, 690 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: which I think is really important, among other things. If 691 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: you miss the segmenting the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 692 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: demand Armstrong and Getty