1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're not waiting for any 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: stinking tampering period. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm in my garage 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: on a hot Los Angeles March day talking to my 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: friend Nick Shook of the Vanquish Cleveland Cavaliers. We're not 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: getting into any NBA today though, Nick. It's all about 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Max Crosby and all the moves that are leading into 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the big free agency period that starts with us Monday. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Sorry for the low blow to start. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say I look past that dig 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 2: right now. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: We'll just move forward into the news of the weekend, 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: which is the shaker that Max Crosby is now headed 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: to the AFC North and the Baltimore Ravens when you 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: looked at the possibility of a trade. 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: In my mind, the Ravens are always in play because 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: they love to go after vets. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: They always love to make the big swings with the 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: brand names in pursuit of a ring. But even I 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: was shocked when this came about on Friday. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I was shocked too. It got thrown out a second, 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: I believe in the studio, and I can't remember if 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: it was me or Patrick who who just said, like 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: that's not really what the Ravens normally do, and yet 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: they did it. So, yes, we saw the Crosby trade. 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm up at Indian Wells the tennis tournament Friday and night. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh, the moves are starting to happen. I 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: want to start taping. And then we think about, Okay, 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: we got a lot of resignings coming up, we have 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: some cuts, we have some really good speculation. We thought, 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: let's do a show on Sunday night to kind of 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: clear the decks. So all of this isn't just thrown 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: into our Monday show. Really looking forward to our shows 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: all week long. We're going live at four pm Pacific, 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern throughout the week. But yes, let's talk 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: about what could be the biggest move of the entire offseason. 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Crosby goes to the Ravens for the fourteenth overall pick 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty seven first round pick. So we 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: heard those reports back on Thursday when we last taped, 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys not willing to give up a second 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: first round pick. Reportedly the Jaguars were also in on this. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: That's very interesting to me, the teams that were in 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and then some of the reporting that we saw on 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: ESPN was the Cowboys. You know, I tried to make 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: them sound discipline. They would not go to a second first, 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: but they were willing to give up another player and 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: a second which is crazy to me. In the in 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: the end, even though the Cowboys had the higher pick, 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: it's the Ravens who go over the top. They give 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: up the first the two first round picks. And there's 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to talk about this with the Ravens. 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: We're going to get to. I have twenty big moves. 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about twenty big trends, but this 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: is the one we'll really dive into. To me, it 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: is a sign that like the way they've been doing things, 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: especially in terms of their pass rush and their defensive 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: line shook isn't working. And Eric DaCosta maybe sitting there 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: at number fourteen overall, looks at this edge class ruben 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: Bain's probably gonna be off the board by then and 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: thinks like, who am I getting there? And we have 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: a chance to really push our chips in the table 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of Lamar Jackson's prime and do something 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: we haven't done in the past, Like what do you 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: think it is about maybe this offseason with Jesse Minner 64 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: coming to board that made them finally do this type 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: of move. 66 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: I think that it was the way that they kind 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: of fell apart last season. Like we can always look 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: back at Lamar's injury and say, well, that contributed to 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: them struggling in the mid portion of the season, But 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: the truth of the matter was that their defense couldn't 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: stop a nosebleed, which was once their hallmark, and it 72 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: really happened upfront with the front four in the front seven, 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: and they couldn't afford to do that again. Not only 74 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: could they not stop the run, they couldn't consistently generate 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: a pass rush. Then they move off of odafeol away 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: at the deadline and that sort of thing, like it 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: just kind of got worse and worse. 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: And you could tell that they needed to upgrade it. 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: And I feel like coming off of a season which 80 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: they were so close to winning the division that was 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: just a very mid division at best, they understand that 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: they still have a franchise quarterback, they still have the 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: make of a team that should be contending for Super Bowls, 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: not just for their division, and in order to ensure 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: that they can at least be a lot stronger on 86 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: one portion of the defensive front. They'll do that by 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: making a big deal like this, because instead of being 88 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: a team that could draft and develop and just rely 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: on that year after year after year, it feels like 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: the pressure is a little bit more increased, especially after 91 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: the coaching changed. Let's go capitalize with a defensive minded 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: coach and Jesse Minner. 93 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. So Max Crosby is due about twenty nine to 94 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars guaranteed this year. His salary stays similar 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: over the next couple of years, around twenty nine million, 96 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: which sounds like a lot of money, but actually for 97 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: the edge market, you know, he's only fifth or six. 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm curious if they're gonna do a new deal with 99 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Crosby guaranteed money further out into the future, or if 100 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: everyone's happy now, because the idea here is like Baltimore 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: still needs to spend They're in on Tyler Linderbaum. According 102 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: to Ian Rappaport, he was just on our air talking 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: about how you know, they're trying to hold on to Linderbomb. 104 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: They need help at guard, they need help at wide receiver. 105 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: We don't know if Namdi Madawueke is coming back or not, 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: which to me is a huge part of this equation. 107 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: You're either getting like you could be getting Max Crosby 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: and a borderline Pro Bowl defensive tackle like added to 109 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: your roster, or you have a huge hole in the middle. 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: So that's like a big X factor. And I am 111 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: curious if Crosby like needs more money, wants more money, 112 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: or if he's just happy he's coming off a major surgery. 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: I was reading kind of the Day After Athletic article 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: by Vic Taffer which was interesting, which said, you know, 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: him and Mark Davis were on the outset one point 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: that Max Crosby wasn't happy with the Alex Guerrero slash 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady influence on what was going on in Las Vegas. 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: And it does make me happy, just as someone that 119 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: likes football, to see Max Crosby just added to a 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: team that should be playing meaningful football in December and January. 121 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: Because to me that I don't think this was about 122 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the money. Maybe they won't even touch that contract unless 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: they feel like it helps them open up more cap space. 124 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's think about it. 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: He just got that contract redone a year ago and 126 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: it was just out of a sign of good will. 127 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't because he was entering a contract year. It's 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: just that's how much the Raiders appreciated him. But things 129 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: can change quickly when you don't win, and it felt 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: like he was one of those guys on a deserted island, 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: just operating out there, being great at what he does 132 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: and not getting any attention for it or any of 133 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: the benefits of being good at football, because the rest 134 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: of your team is just not good. And so you're right, 135 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: it's good to see good football players join teams that 136 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: actually have real title ambitions and to get that done. 137 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: But it is interesting you're right about the contract because 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I think that the contract could stay, but I would 139 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: still understand if they restructured, because if you look at 140 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 3: their top five guys in terms of cap number entering 141 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, according to over the Cap, you got 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: Lamar at seventy four and a half million, which has 143 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: got to be restructured. 144 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: No way you're carrying that cap number for him. You 145 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: push some stuff out into the future. 146 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: Rokwan Smith at thirty two point seven million, Mattabk at 147 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: thirty point nine million, and then Max Crosby at thirty 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: point six million. That's a significant combined total. And when 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: it comes to the total of your cap, you're going 150 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: to go improve your roster like you need to. And 151 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: if you're going to retain your center, you've got to 152 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: move some of that money into the future and create 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: some cap space. 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we tried to tape this Sunday evening Sunday 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: night on the East Coast to try to get as 156 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: much as we could before the league year started, but 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to get everything. The 158 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Ravens will be making moves before the league year starts 159 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: because which is officially Wednesday, the tampering slash negotiating period 160 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: is Monday, so by between now and Wednesday, that Lamar 161 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Jackson deal could very well happen. I think he's going 162 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: to have a new contract that kind of makes him 163 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: whole and helps the money out. I think we'll find 164 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: out about Madam week. But what a move for a 165 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: team that just had no pass rush. I'm not that 166 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: worried about the fact that Max Crosby is twenty eight 167 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: turning twenty nine years old. I am a little concerned 168 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: that he never leaves the field in Vegas, so you know, 169 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: he has kind of the the body in terms of 170 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: the pounding that he's taken of, maybe a guy a 171 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: year or two older. So I think the Ravens should 172 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: look to, you know, rotate him a little bit more. 173 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: But if you look at the numbers in terms of 174 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: tackles for loss, it's him by a long shot leading 175 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: the league. And that's in that's in terms of stopping 176 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: the run, it's him, and it's a big gap, and 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: then it's Miles Garrett and then he obviously isn't you know, 178 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the sack artist that the very very top guys get. 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: But in terms of pure pressure, I think it's gonna 180 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: be awesome. I think Jesse Minner is going to take advantage, 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm just pumped for that to happen, 182 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: and I think we should do it a little talk 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: about the Raiders side of things. You know, we talked 184 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to John Spytech at the NFL Scouting combine, and you know, 185 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: he said the right things about Crosby. But I think 186 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna be thrilled by this, this deal to have 187 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: the fourteenth overall pick. I know that the fan base 188 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: is not gonna be thrilled, but you look at the 189 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: fourteenth overall pick. You look at a first round pick 190 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: next year, it really does feel like they're getting to 191 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: do a restart. And I think it it was the 192 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: perfect time for them to get max value, no pun intended. 193 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: And also like I don't think their fans are gonna 194 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: be mad because they got so much back. 195 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, And I think, look, if you're going to 196 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: turn this team into a winner, twenty nine year old 197 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: Max krazy, which is what he'll be in late August, 198 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: is not going to help you get there in the 199 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: long run. It's just not like just father time will 200 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: come for him before you're truly in a position to contend. 201 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: It's much more important for you to get maximum value 202 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: for him in the form of the draft picks. But 203 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: it's also you alleviate more capri him to be able 204 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: to spend elsewhere, because like when fans think about free agency, 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: when the average person just thinks about free agency, they consider, all, right, 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: what big fish can we land. What if you took 207 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: the Patriots approach from last season, in which you spend 208 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: a ton of that money and spread it across a 209 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: number of different positions to vastly improve your roster. That's 210 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: kind of the path that the Raiders need to take. 211 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: You add in the draft capital ammunition, and suddenly you're 212 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: setting up for a potentially transformative offseason if you can 213 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: nail both of those periods, and if the more capital 214 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: you have, the more shots you had to do it, 215 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: and especially in the first round, it's obviously the most 216 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: valuable ant how you can usually jump start a turnaround. So, yeah, 217 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: they're probably sad to see Max Crosby go fan favorite. 218 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: You know, one of those guys that a previous regime 219 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: had plucked from the draft from Eastern Michigan and seeing 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: him become a superstar edge rusher. But sometimes these are 221 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: the moves you have to make for the greater good 222 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: of a franchise moving forward. 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, my Raiders fan friends your Raiders texted me. He's like, 224 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: you gotta be happy with two first. You gotta be 225 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: happy with two first. And yeah, I do love the 226 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: fact that they have the one pick, they have the 227 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: fourteen pick. The problem is they do have too much 228 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: cap space. One hundred and twenty one million dollars is 229 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: absolutely outrageous. It's way too much. There's not enough good 230 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: players to spend it on. But they can go over 231 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: the top on whoever they want, including potentially Tyler Linderbaum. 232 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to him in a second. We have 233 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: a whole section on centers. There was a lot of 234 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: moves this weekend and then they all seem to revolve 235 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: around centers. By the way, while we're talking Ravens, Snoop 236 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: Huntley back with the Ravens, so he will be Lamar 237 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: Jackson's backup. Got a two year contract. Shout out to 238 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley, which who was kind of kicking out of 239 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: almost falling out of the league, was like a fourth 240 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Browns, like sign lighton free agency, was 241 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: on some practice squads. So I love, he played well 242 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: last year and he gets it's eleven million dollars. Who 243 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: knows what the real money is, but I'm sure he 244 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: got some guaranteed money. So shout out to Snoopuntley. All right, 245 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: let's go in order. So I said, we have twenty 246 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: moves to talk about. We're gonna we're gonna fly through 247 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: the rest of these. Max was Max was the big hitter. 248 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack got the most amount of money though of 249 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: anyone else left one year, eighteen million dollars. So it's 250 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: a one year contract. He returns to the Chargers. Let's 251 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: just start kind of focusing on him and that move. 252 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, they had Odafeoway as a free agent, they 253 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: had Khalil Mack as a free agent. So you get 254 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: one guy back in. Our friend Daniel Jeremiah notes how 255 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: he's really looked at as like a really unique leader 256 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: for that entire organization. So maybe you pay just a 257 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: little bit extra to keep him because because you value 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: what he does. 259 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: Is it extra though, because if you look at his 260 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: contract history, that's exactly what he's made over the last 261 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: three years. One year for nineteen million and twenty two, 262 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: for one year for eighteen and twenty five, one year 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: for eighteen and twenty six. The man knows what his 264 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: price is. He gets older, his value stays the same 265 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: because of how important he is to the team. This 266 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: was a pairing that I really hoped stayed together because 267 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: you know, Bears fans are all about getting into the 268 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: pass rushers this offseason and they need to upgrade there. 269 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: And what if we reunited with Khalil Mack. 270 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: No, stay with the Chargers where you played a pivot 271 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: role when you were healthy. That elbow injury early kind 272 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: of puts you off track, but you came back and 273 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: finished strong. You're clearly still excellent of what you do. 274 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: This makes the most sense. No need to pack up 275 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: the home and move elsewhere for a season, just stay 276 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: here and try and run it back with what you 277 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: hope will be a better Chargers team with a healthier 278 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: offensive line and a higher ceiling. So I was very 279 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: happy to see them get this done and at a 280 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: rate that I think he's still deserving of. 281 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. I mean it's a lot for Mac 282 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: who hasn't finished seasons as well as he started them lately. 283 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: But you get you get the leadership I do. I 284 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: don't think it was necessarily a coincidence timing wise that 285 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: the Crosby deal happened and then the Mac deal happens 286 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: because Khalil max old coach is in Baltimore, Jesse Minter, 287 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: and you know, once they kind of got their big 288 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: ticket item that maybe removed like an attractive, high price 289 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: option for Khalil Mack and so he stays what's turned 290 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: into his home now a dafae Oway. I think they're 291 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: in on him, and they have a lot of free 292 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: agent you know, spending room, but keep an eye on 293 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers for a Dafe Oway. I'm just just 294 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: throwing that out there. I think the Panthers are one 295 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: of the teams. Commanders are another one. Forty nine ers 296 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: Patriots that are in on a lot of these guys, 297 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: and I think are going to be spending near the 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: top of the market, which is where I think oh 299 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: Way will be. But good move for Mac. They have 300 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot more to do though. They need defensive tackles, 301 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: they need offensive linemen. We'll get to all that. Let's 302 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: talk about some of the veterans, like the potential future 303 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Hall of famers. I mean you can take the word 304 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: potential away when you talk Travis Kelce and Khalil Mack 305 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, keep stain by the way, 306 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Kleiol Mack has made more money in the end than 307 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: any defensive player ever. Isn't that amazing? 308 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 2: That is kind of shocking. 309 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean I saw that from over the cap, like 310 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: on a tweet. I can't I can't like check that 311 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: von Miller was next. But Khalil Mack, I think is 312 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: number one all time. 313 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: What do you think about his career and you think 314 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: about the journey like he was a pivotal player for 315 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: those Raiders teams, the Jack del Real Raiders, and then 316 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: he went to Chicago and was just kind of lost 317 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: in the ABYSS while still being a great player. 318 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: And that was a great that was a record setting contract. 319 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he revives it with the Chargers. At 320 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: least his a bit of like his spotlight, his exposure 321 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: in the last few years. Good for him. Hey, you 322 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: know what, Mac guy, that's a buffalo bull. We love 323 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: Max getting paid. A couple of Mac guys getting paid. 324 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is I think in the end 325 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna play more for the Chargers than the other teams. Yeah, 326 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: because he played exactly four years in the two other 327 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: locations and this will be his fifth now with the Chargers. 328 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: So congrats at all time, bag Getter. But it's not 329 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: like he's like Kirk Cousins, like getting it when you know, 330 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't quite deserve it at that level. You know, 331 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: he is one of the best of players of his era, 332 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: but the richest, okay I see is Travis KELCEI talk 333 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans talk. I'm grouping these two together as 334 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: kind of items three and four. It came out on 335 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, the Athletics said that Travis Kelce is returning, 336 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: expected to return, but the question is whether he returns 337 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs. He is expected to talk 338 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: to multiple other teams. You're shaking your head. 339 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just a leverage play. I can't imagine a 340 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: world in which he actually wants to sign somewhere else. 341 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: We spend his entire career with the Chiefs, and I 342 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: honestly would say the same about Mike Evans, although I 343 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: believe that Evans could find a more attractive opportunity somewhere 344 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: else if he was actually truly interested in leaving and 345 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: maybe jump at, you know, a big money offer. Buffalo's 346 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: trade for DJ Moore kind of took that off the 347 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: table because I thought that would be a good landing 348 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: spot for him. Ultimately, I expect both of these guys 349 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: to stay with their teams and just use this to 350 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: get a few extra million dollars out of their teams 351 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: for one final year. And it's just the classic, you know, 352 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: business tactics that exist during March when we go through 353 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: this perier. 354 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: It's a tough spot for someone like Kelsey because no 355 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: one around the NFL thinks he's gonna leave, and he 356 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: certainly would have a market, But what is that market? 357 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Is it one year like eight million dollars, one year 358 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: ten million dollars? Like is it really going to be 359 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: more than the Chiefs are willing to spend? Probably not. 360 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: But if you're Kelsey and the Chiefs are asking you 361 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: to essentially take a pay cut, which is what I'm 362 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: guessing they're doing. Despite playing very well last year, like 363 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: he looked better last season, I thought than the two 364 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: previous seasons. He made more plays after the catch. If 365 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: you're if you're watching us live on YouTube, you can 366 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: see some of those plays after the catch right now. 367 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: And so he's in a tough spot trying to get 368 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: his bag as much as he possibly can, but no 369 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: one believes that he's gonna go. No. 370 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: In his current apy is seventeen point one, and if 371 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: he took eight, that's more than a fifty percent cut. 372 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, it would be a massive cut to stay 373 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: with the Chiefs. But I feel like that's about his 374 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: market because while you give him the credit for making 375 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: plays after the catch, a lot of folks, and especially 376 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: those in Kansas City, will define his twenty twenty five 377 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: season as the year in which he made the most 378 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: crucial drops of his career that contributed directly to losses 379 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: in big games, and especially because of the fact that 380 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: they weren't able to return to the playoffs. That just 381 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: lingers as something that they're going to have to get 382 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: over collectively if he sticks around. So I don't think 383 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: he's going to have that strong of a market because 384 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: let's look at the tight end market as it stands 385 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: right now. You're looking at guys like Dallas Goddard, John 386 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: hu Smith, David Njoku, Travis Kelce. Of those four guys, 387 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: who are you actually going to throw a decent bag 388 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: at No hate on Travis Kelce. I live in Cleveland. 389 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: He's a Cleveland Heights guy. But I would not throw 390 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: the most money at him out of that group of 391 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: tight ends. 392 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't. 393 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting some comments that they think Kelsey's washed. 394 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's washed. I think he can help. 395 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: I think he's somewhere in between. 396 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: He's too smart. He's too smart to be washed. And look, 397 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: he was very productive last year, but he would have 398 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: to wait out the market. It's a little embarrassing. It's 399 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: the same thing with I saw a report today that 400 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: Mike Evans will hit the market, and Matt Harmon quote 401 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: tweeted it saying what I thought it is like, didn't 402 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: you report this like a month ago? And then didn't 403 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: you report this like a week ago? And it's basically 404 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: the agent telling the insiders, Hey, let him know it's serious. 405 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: He really is going to hit the market, and it's 406 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: just like trying to get that little extra money. There 407 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: is a difference though, in that a team like the 408 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: Chiefs for instance, so they don't have a lot of 409 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: cap room to spend, but some other teams out there, 410 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: whoever's looking at receiver San Francisco would make a little 411 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: sense to me. Maybe New England for the right price, 412 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, would make a little sense to me, I 413 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: think would actually give Evans an offer. But no one 414 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: wants to be the team that just is getting used 415 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: as a leverage play. I give Travis Kelce a two 416 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: percent chance of leaving, and I give Mike Evans a 417 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: twelve percent chance. 418 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: The numbers I would land on, well. 419 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: It was, it's the exact numbers. Shook. 420 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: Come on, there's going to be well over under twelve percent. 421 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: Under twelve's the maximum neither of them are leaving. 422 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: Neither. 423 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I hope you're right, especially when it comes to Evans. 424 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I I just assume you're right when it comes to 425 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. By the way, breaking news. I did see 426 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: this on TMZ this weekend. Travis Kelcey's mom is renovating 427 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: in your house. 428 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: Big news. Who's the interior designer? Can we see? 429 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they set that out as a 430 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: post and then Jason Kelcey retweeted it and was like 431 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: breaking news, like I'm going to the park with my kids. 432 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: I don't know why that was news, but it was 433 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: absolutely news. 434 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: I got to see the blueprints. I want to see 435 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: the open floor plan. How many ovens? One? Two? What 436 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: are we doing here? We got the built in pancake griddle. 437 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: Come on, Okay? 438 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: That was a points three and four on our show. 439 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: Number five also happened on Friday. But it's the Raiders 440 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: releasing Geno Smith and we have some expected cuts. Gino 441 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Smith was expected. The crazy part about this is that 442 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: we have now seen multiple reporters suggest that Gino Smith 443 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: is either a top or close to the top of 444 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: the Jets wish list. I want so much better for 445 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Gino than returning to the Jets. That seems like a 446 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: terrible coda to the end of his career. Frank Reich, 447 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: who is the coach there, also reportedly wants to bring 448 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: in Carson Wentz as a possibility. I want better for 449 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: Jets fans than Carson Wentz, and I want better for 450 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Gino than having to deal with the Jets fans who 451 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: are going to kind of hold it against him what 452 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: he was the last time. And I'm still hoping for Minnesota, 453 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: even though I think that's where Kyler ends up. 454 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that would take away probably his best fit 455 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: as a free agent quarterback at this point in his career. 456 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes we look at players' careers and 457 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: we see them returning to the team that drafted them, 458 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: and we think, oh, that ties a nice little bow 459 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: on their arc. 460 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: This would be the opposite. 461 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe the opposite of 462 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: tying a bow on it other than I don't know, 463 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: obliterating the tail end of it and leaving him with 464 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: no soft landing whatsoever. I mean, look, not to hate 465 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: on the Jets, but any quarterback that is put in 466 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: that situation has to be a supernatural like human to 467 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: be able to you know, get something out of that offense, 468 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: at least as it stands right now. I know they 469 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: had some injuries up front, justin Fields took about nine 470 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: steps back behind that offensive line, which wasn't terrible but 471 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: got worse and worse throughout the year. Tyrod Taylor, you know, 472 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: struggled to stay healthy. But similar story for him. Putting 473 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: Gino there would be the worst thing possible because he 474 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: just came from a terrible situation in the desert in 475 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: Vegas behind the NFL's worst offensive line. So, Gino, this 476 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: is my plea to you. Please hold out for a 477 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: better offer that might not be you know, worth as 478 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: much money, but is a better situation than this one. 479 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Like I would rather see Geno be Stafford's backup 480 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: or something, yeah, versus you know, in a situation where 481 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: where he could possibly succeed if he was called upon. 482 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: The Jets are have seventy three million dollars in cap space. 483 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be active. We haven't heard any 484 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: more on the Kyler Murray kind of sweep steaks, you know, 485 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: since we last taped, Other than the expectation is Minnesota 486 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: is the favorite, but I don't think anyone really knows knows. 487 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: We'll find out other cuts around the league. Really surprised 488 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: by Taylor Decker getting cut by the Lions. The veteran 489 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: left tackle was you know, do a decent amount of 490 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: money and he announced he wasn't going to retire in February, 491 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: and the assumption was he's just coming back to the Lions. 492 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: I think they tried to negotiate a pay cut. He 493 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: wasn't happy about it, and he's cut loose and I 494 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: don't think we ever hit it on the show. They 495 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: also cut Graham Glasgow the other week, and Frank Ragnow 496 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: is still retired. He's not coming back. So they don't 497 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: have a center, they don't have a left tackle. They 498 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: need a guard spot. Interesting time for the Detroit Lions. 499 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: And where where would have you put Taylor Decker? And 500 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll throw in Geno Smith if you were making the 501 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: top one oh one, these are where. 502 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: You well that that would require some context about who's 503 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: in like the thirties and forties. 504 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Would you put Geno's with the head of Kirk Cousins, Yes, 505 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: and Ian Aaron Rodgers? 506 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: No. 507 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: I would put him behind Rogers and ahead of Kirk, 508 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: if thats it. 509 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: I actually put Kirk ahead of Rogers because I think 510 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Rogers is so tricky to fit into a different system. 511 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: But I had them all basically in the same tier. 512 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: Their rank between fifty and sixty. I'm calling that bridge 513 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: quarterback land. Yeah, but you know, you know this is 514 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Geno Nation. I'm still standing up for the In the 515 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: right situation, he could be better. We got a comment 516 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: here that the Lion's window has closed. I disagree with that. 517 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't think the Lion's window is closed. But this 518 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: is a big month for them. 519 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, look anytime that you're what was the story of 520 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five Lions, the offensive line, the injuries 521 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: that they suffered up front, the fact that Frank ragnow 522 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: retired and replacing him didn't go as well as they 523 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: thought it would, which it's always a risk. Him trying 524 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: to unretire and failing as physical and then being sent 525 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: back to retirement against his wishes. And now Taylor Decker 526 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: leaving this feels like an emotional move on his part, 527 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna come back and play one more year 528 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: and you're gonna ask me to take a pay cut, 529 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: all right, I'm out of here, because then where is 530 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: your next market? Do you end up with a team 531 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: that has the same ambitions? Like I think about teams 532 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: that need offensive line men, and I think about the Browns, 533 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: and would Taylor Decker want to go play for the 534 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: Browns over the Lions? Because I wouldn't if I was 535 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: Taylor Decker. So I think if you weigh the priorities, 536 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: apparently it must have been offensive enough for him to 537 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: be like, you know what, screwed? 538 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: I want to leave entirely. And now he's out there. 539 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: The idea though, of investing in a guy for who's 540 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: probably only going to play one more year, it's got 541 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 3: to be with a team that really desperately just needs 542 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: a veteran to fill that last spot on their offensive line. 543 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: And I put him in my top hundred though, because 544 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: there's no tackles out there. 545 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 3: No, definitely in the top one hundred. But I'm thinking, like, 546 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 3: does he end up in Chicago because like they have 547 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: that would questions to answer on their offensive line. 548 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh, that would That actually does make a lot of 549 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: sense because it's just a one year option they really 550 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: need with Delo coming off an injury. This is what 551 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Lions correspondent Kevin Patrick said about how Taylor Decker played 552 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: last year serviceable. He missed more blocks than we'd seen 553 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: in the past few years. I think injuries really restricted 554 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: him a lot. Like he knew. He looked like a 555 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: guy who knew where to be and what was coming, 556 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: but couldn't always get there. Average with the arrow pointed down, 557 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: not where you want to be in life. Where I 558 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: feel like I am average with the arrow pointed You. 559 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: Know that's a lie. 560 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: Let's go. Packer says. The Jamir Gibbs stats are going 561 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: to plummet as they pass more and become one dimensional. 562 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Let's give them. Let's give them the next couple weeks 563 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: because the Lions actually have very little flexibility financially, at 564 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: least on paper. But Brad Holmes has done a great 565 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: job overall. I just want to I'll grade them at 566 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: the end. I think I don't want to be premature, 567 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: but I don't. 568 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 3: Want to be a doomsday guy either. But I think 569 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: there is some validity in the comment about Jamiir Gibbs. 570 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: I actually talked to him at the Pro Bowl in 571 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: San Francisco and basically was going to ask him about 572 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: the new offense and hurt him just quickly like reject 573 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 3: the premise of it by being like, I haven't been 574 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 3: there yet. I don't know what it's going to look 575 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 3: like because I haven't been in the building yet. So 576 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: then I was like, all right, well, can we be 577 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 3: honest for a second. We know your offensive line struggled 578 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: last year and how it hurt your numbers, and he. 579 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: Basically acknowledged that. 580 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I mean they had injuries up 581 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: front and it kind of hurt our entire offense and 582 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: took away a lot of our running game, which was 583 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: the basis of our offense. So this is going to 584 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: be the number one priority for this team, not to 585 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 3: mention the fact that they need to find an edge 586 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: rusher to pair with Aden Hutchinson, they could use some 587 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: more defensive reinforcements. It's going to be a pivotal offseason 588 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: for them, It really is. It's crazy how quickly things 589 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: can change. But this is the way the NFL is 590 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 3: with with attrition, with roster turnover falling short of the 591 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: mark one year, Suddenly you lose a couple of key 592 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: guys up front, and the trenches get a little weaker 593 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: and things get a little unstable. So I hope that 594 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: Brad Holmes comes through for the better mint of the 595 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: Detroit Lions fan base. 596 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: The Trenches are looking rough, but they have a lot 597 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: of great players still on that team, including Pan Sewell 598 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: by the Way, and Aidan Hutchinson. So I'm not pushing 599 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: the panic button yet. Here's what I'm gonna do, though, 600 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: is test Nick Schook and our producer Eric Roberts with 601 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: a little breaking news as we're taping this. The Rams 602 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: have signed Trent McDuffie to a four year, one hundred 603 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: and twenty four million dollar contract extension. Look, we already 604 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: hit the trade at length on the show. This is 605 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: part two of the trade, getting him locked in long 606 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: term one hundred million dollars guaranteed reportedly or Trent McDuffie 607 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: now you know it, says highest paid cornerback in NFL history, 608 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: says one hundred million dollars guaranteed. I hate to say 609 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: it when it comes to these insiders. I can't trust 610 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it until I actually see the contract come up. But 611 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: it's not shocking because to me, he's a top ten 612 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: cornerback and generally, if you're in the top ten at 613 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: your position, you kind of become the highest paid player 614 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: when you're up. So it sounds crazy, but what that 615 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: tells me probably is you know it's guaranteed money into year, 616 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, through three years. So of course Trent McDuffie's 617 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: going to be on this team for three four years. 618 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: He's twenty five years old. I don't think he's as 619 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: high level as the very very best cornerbacks, but he's 620 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: not far off, and he's a guy you can build around. 621 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: What I like is his versatility. He proved that in 622 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Kansas City he was essentially started in the slot. He 623 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: had a great performance in twenty twenty four when they 624 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 3: got to the Super Bowl and beat the forty nine 625 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: ers in Vegas, and he played a pivotal role in 626 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: that game itself, breaking up a few key passes, again 627 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: largely manning the slot throughout that playoff run. Then the 628 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: next year proves that he can be inside and outside 629 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: and make a difference. PFF grades have him super high 630 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: over the last three years. I think the second best 631 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: corner in the NFL since twenty twenty three and coverage 632 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: grade wow. I agree that he's not necessarily like the 633 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: high level, elite brand name guy that you think of 634 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: at his position, but the Rams needed this. 635 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: We knew the only real weakness. 636 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: With the Rams, especially entering the postseason, was their secondary, 637 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: which is why we were so shocked that the secondary 638 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: made big plays and. 639 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: That win over the Bears. 640 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: Some of that had to do with DJ more Nutt 641 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 3: finishing his route and flattening it out, but still they 642 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: made the plays when they needed to. 643 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: Now they go after it. This mirrors what they. 644 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: Got against the Seahawks. They didn't. 645 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: You're right, and this is what that's the game that 646 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: tells them, this is what we need to focus on 647 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: the off season is our secondary. So this mirror is 648 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: what they did when they went after Jalen Ramsey when 649 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: they were going all in back when he was around 650 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: the same age he was considered the same level of cornerback. 651 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: They said, screw it, we're going all in. So it's 652 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: less need understanding. The time is now again, Let's go 653 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: get one of the best cornerbacks available in a trade 654 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: and pay him one twenty four over four. Now the 655 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: highest pass the sauce guard are at one twenty point four. 656 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: But the one hundred million guaranteed You're right, I need 657 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: to see the details because the top guaranteed numbers right now. 658 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: According to over the cap are like around forty eight 659 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: million for Derek Stingley. 660 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: That would be massive. 661 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's no way that that's a really 662 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: true one hundred million guaranteed. 663 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: Well who knows. And yeah, even the per year at 664 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: thirty per you know, tops the highest before and at 665 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: his age, he is more likely than most to get 666 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: every dollar in that contract. But the CAP's going up, 667 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: you can always massage it. And yes, the Rams are 668 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: trying to win the super Bowl. And I like what 669 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrieg said on our show a couple of days ago, like, look, 670 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: it's not a position they've drafted. Well, so if that 671 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: that's a position you need to overpay a little bit 672 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: in a trade slash contract. Yeah, f them picks and 673 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: give the money to McDuffie. By the way, yeah, I 674 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: put Eric on the spot. He had that graphic up 675 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: in four point two one seconds. That was faster than 676 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: the fastest forty at the combine getting the Trent McDuffie 677 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: graphic up despite not knowing that it was coming. Now, 678 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm really throwing another curve ball here because we're going 679 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: to hit point number fourteen on the rundown. Since it 680 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: was the Rams anyways, quickly in the secondary, Cam Curl 681 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: got a big contract thirty nine million dollars over three 682 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: years from the Rams. They also brought back Tyler Higbee 683 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: for eight million dollars over two years. I don't think 684 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: we need to go on much about that, but Cam 685 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: Curl was a guy that was in my top sixty 686 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: overall free agents, one of the top safeties available. And 687 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, oh, when they bring Quinton 688 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: Lake blat back, say goodbye to Cam Curl. But no, 689 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: they're going to spend money on the players that were 690 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: good in their secondary and that is a really diverse, 691 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: I think, trustworthy trio. And it really speaks to how 692 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: NFL defenses are run now where they can play all 693 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: sorts of different styles between Curl McDuffie and now Quinton Lake. 694 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're still going to be looking at cornerbacks, 695 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: but they're going to feel really good. Let's go back 696 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: and let's talk about all the seenters. So I'm just 697 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: going to rip off all these center moves that happened 698 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: over the weekend. As one point, Conda McGovern got fifty 699 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: two million dollars, thirty two million dollars guaranteed from the 700 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. That's a four year contract that came just 701 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: a few days after he told Tim Graham of The 702 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Athletic he assumed he's leaving Buffalo because no one had 703 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: even contacted him. And Tim Graham believes literally that conversation 704 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: helped kickstart negotiations, which is bizarre, but they got a 705 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: deal done. McGovern gets big time money, maybe because they 706 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: were looking at the rest of the market. Tyler Biattish 707 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: gets three years thirty million dollars with the Chargers. If 708 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: you remember, Biadas just got cut by the Commanders. He 709 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: finds a new home very quickly with the Chargers. They 710 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: had three interior line spots open, now they fill one. 711 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: The Packers have signed Sean Ryan for thirty three million 712 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: dollars for three years, eleven million dollars guaranteed. He's expected 713 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: to play center, which means Elgin Elton Jenkins might get cut. 714 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: We don't know about that. Maybe they could move Jenkins 715 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: out to a different position. He's still on the team. 716 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: Garrett Bradbury got traded from the Patriots to the Bears 717 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: for a twenty twenty seven fifth round pick, so the 718 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Bears filled their center hole that was brazing, you know, 719 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: opened up by the fact that Drew Dolman retired the 720 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: other day, so it's just a game of musical chairs 721 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: at center. The Patriots send off Garrett Bradbury. Jared Wilson, 722 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: who they drafted a year ago from Georgia is expected 723 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: to take that position, and also another spot opened up, 724 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly retired from the Vikings. He had been having 725 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: concussion issues, So that was a lot Nick, But I 726 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: just gotta want to just put it all out there 727 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: and let me know what you think if anything stands 728 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: out to you there. In general about the center market. 729 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 3: I thought Biag's landing on the free agent market was 730 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: mildly surprising, and it felt like he wasn't going to 731 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: be out there for very long. Good that he kind 732 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: of got the early head start in a center market 733 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: that has suddenly become you know, fast and furious. Usually 734 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: isn't this active, but is this offseason. So good to 735 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: see him laying with the Chargers, the team that obviously 736 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: understands the importance of offensive line strength given that they 737 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: haven't been able to produce it over the last few years, 738 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: and luckily their quarterback still has all of his limbs. 739 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: As for the Patriots trade with the Bears. Very funny 740 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: how this construction of this Patriots team has already evolved 741 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: from year one to year two, where they went and 742 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: got some of the vets that they thought could plug holes. 743 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: And then now that they finished that first season, they're like, 744 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: all right, you're out, Stefan Diggs, Bradbury, you're traded. 745 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: Wilson's going to move over to center. 746 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: The succession plan completely, you know, in place and active. 747 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: And the Bears get an answer after a surprise retirement 748 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: from from Drew Dollman. I know that Bears fans. I 749 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: am very close with a few of them. They have 750 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 3: been panicking all week since he announced his retirement, and 751 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: so it's nice to get that done before the start 752 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: of free agency as well. And Bradbury guy with obviously 753 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: with a ton of experience and did a good jobs 754 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: as the veteran leader of the pivot of the Patriots 755 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: this year, an offensive line that was very diverse, being 756 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: so young on the left so experienced on the right. 757 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: Didn't play the best in the super Bowl. But I 758 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: think Bradbury overall deserves this next opportunity. 759 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: We'll see how he doesn't. 760 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: You I don't know. Bears fans watched a lot of 761 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: that those Vikings games in Division when Bradbury was struggling. 762 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of a buyer beware with 763 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: biattish at that salary that the Commanders were willing to 764 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: get off. Yeah, and also little buyer be aware for 765 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: the Bears that the Patriots were willing to get off 766 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: of them. It's not like his contract was that much, 767 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: but they only gave up a fifth round pick. To me, 768 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: they might bring in competition for Garrett Bradbury, they might 769 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: draft someone, they might add another free agent. But yeah, 770 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: it should. It should make Bears fans feel a little 771 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: bit better that they have an option that knows how 772 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: to play. But yeah, there was lot of like protection 773 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: issues with the commanders in terms of communication. Was that 774 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: on beiadash I don't really know. McGovern getting that big 775 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: of a deal, yeah, kind of eliminated him from, you know, 776 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: possibly going elsewhere. But man, the Bills who were going 777 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: to get to in a second, they had to make 778 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: a lot of cuts and they still don't have any 779 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: cap space right now, like they and they just paid 780 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: all that money to McGovern. I'm kind of wondering, like, 781 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: what else is going to happen here? We know they're 782 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: not going to be in on Tyler Linderbaum. That's it. 783 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: I think this is the spot. While we're talking centers 784 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: to talk linder bomb uh Ian reported that the Ravens are, 785 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep Linderbaum, but the Commanders, who 786 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, just cut Beiadash and the Raiders were the 787 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: two teams that he mentioned could be willing to pay 788 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: big time money for Tyler Linderbaum. Now, another outlet, I 789 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: believe it was ESPN, had the Titans and the Giants 790 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: in on Linderbaum earlier in the in the weekend, and 791 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: so Lindenbaum is going to get huge money. Tampering starts 792 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: at New in Eastern on Monday, and I think he'll 793 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: he could be one of the first people signed. And 794 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: I have no idea where he's going, but it is 795 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: very interesting to me to see the teams that are 796 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: out there. And if the Raiders just wanted to give 797 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: Tyler Linbram like twenty seven twenty eight million dollars a 798 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: year tackle type money, they could do it like Mark 799 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: Davis would do it. They could just get they could 800 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: just make the money, absolutely crazy. 801 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: It would make the PA happy too, because it would 802 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: launch the center market into the stratosphere. But it's funny 803 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: because three of those four teams that were mentioned as 804 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: being in on him, outside of the Ravens, of course, 805 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: are three of the four teams of the most cap 806 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: spaced at this point as we enter the new league year, 807 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: Raiders at one hundred and twenty one million, Titans at 808 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: ninety two million, Commanders at eighty seven million, So they 809 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 3: will have the money to throw if they really want 810 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 3: him in a bidding war I believe will ensue, and 811 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of the fun storylines to track 812 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: as the new new League year opens up. 813 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really I'm really looking forward to seeing who 814 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: goes crazy. But I think these teams that you keep 815 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: seeing mention we just said a few of them, Raiders, Commanders, Titans. 816 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: I think Giants are going to be very active patriots. 817 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: Those are some of the teams that I expect to 818 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: go crazy. One thing I also thought about with McDuffie. 819 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: It's probably an extension, so the average per year looks 820 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: a little misleading because you're not counting the year that 821 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: was already on the contract and they fudge around with 822 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: these money. We see you agents and insiders at times. 823 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about a few dudes staying put 824 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: tj Hockinson took a five million dollar pay cut to 825 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: stay with the Vikings, and James Connor is back with 826 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals on a revised contract. Usually that means a 827 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: pay cut for him as well. Hockinson will now become 828 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: a free agent after the twenty twenty sixth season. Any 829 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on Connor or Hockinson staying with their teams. 830 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 3: Hockinson making the necessary sacrifice that the Vikings front office 831 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: probably begged him to do to stay there, and he 832 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: probably wanted to stay there. I think that it's been 833 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 3: a good home for him since he was traded there, 834 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: despite their instability at quarterback over the last year or so, 835 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: And it makes a lot of sense. However, Connor is 836 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: an essential piece to whatever the Cardinals are going to 837 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: be under Mike Lafleur, because this is all he was. 838 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: Like he was their offense in Arizona, like once they 839 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: got hurt, he got hurt. Last year their offense took 840 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: a nose dive, and then Kyler gets hurt. He ends 841 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: up getting soft bench for Jacoby. Over the last three years, 842 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: the story with the Cardinals was did James Connor have 843 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: a good game? Did he run for a close to 844 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: one hundred yards? Then they may have won. Did he 845 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 3: have a bad game, They definitely lost. So keeping him 846 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 3: there makes sense. And coming off of the injury, that 847 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: also explains why the contract is revised. 848 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 2: But they have money to spend, so interesting. 849 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: I think negotiation there between the two and that like 850 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: running back coming off of an injury, kind of at 851 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: that point in his career age wise where you can't 852 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: justify paying him the same amount. He does it out 853 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: of a move of good faith. They do it because 854 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: they know he's so important, but they also preserve the 855 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: ability to add elsewhere because they know they have a 856 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: lot of holes that they need to fill. 857 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: So good on them. 858 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,479 Speaker 1: We got a question asking to say something nice about 859 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. They need hope. Look, maliqu Willis could be 860 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: your quarterback in less than twenty four hours. That would 861 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: give me personally a lot of hope. It would also 862 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: give me a point in our free agency matchmaker game 863 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: that I'm hoping to win. I think Maliquillis might happen, 864 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: and just kind of as a something to remember, if 865 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: you're watching like a pay cut or a revised contract 866 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: at this time of year, the team ultimately is saying 867 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: we will cut you. It's up to you. They're negotiating that, 868 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: and exactly it helps the agent and the player. TJ. 869 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: Hockinson look like they got to win that. Well, the 870 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: contracts shortened. Now I'll become a free agent after next year. Well, 871 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: you would have been a free agent in a day 872 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: if you didn't accept the pay cup. But ultimately Hockinson 873 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: decided the money I'm going to get there, which is 874 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: still I think probably going to be pretty good, Like 875 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars is probably better than i could do 876 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: on the open market. And I'm comfortable here and that 877 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: ultimately the team was ready to move on. The Eagles 878 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: are not ready to move on from Jordan Davis. He 879 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: gets sixty five million dollar guaranteed on a three year, 880 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: seventy eight million dollar extension. It's a four year total deal. 881 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: And I find that really interesting in the context of 882 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: the ESPN report that some teams have called about Jalen Carter. 883 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: I threw that out there in the middle of February. 884 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if the Eagles would ever 885 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: think about trading Jalen Carter. So if you're looking for 886 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: like a stunner of a deal in the next week, 887 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: that would be one potential one. The Eagles also reportedly 888 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: are talking about possibly trading for Jonathan Garnard and are 889 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: doing their best to keep Jalen Phillips. So I think 890 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: they're going to spend at edge. We just kind of 891 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: have to find out if it's Phillips or Gernard. It's 892 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: a lot there that I just served up for you, 893 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: But a very cool development arc for Jordan Davis improving 894 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: in his career. 895 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it lands him I think in the top 896 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 3: two in APY at his position. Actually, he'll make more 897 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: than Milton Williams. Actually, I think that's the same as 898 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: Milton Williams. What twenty six a year was at fifty 899 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 3: two mental maths seventy eight. Yeah, that's the equal to 900 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: what Milton Williams got paid by the Patriots last year. 901 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: I know the Eagles, between the two, would rather pay 902 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: Jordan Davis than Milton Williams. 903 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: So it makes sense. 904 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: He has improved after he dropped that weight last offseason. 905 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: He became a more agile player. He was always very 906 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: explosive and kind of a freak of nature athletically, but 907 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 3: he became a more effective and more agile player. Instead 908 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: of just being a gap plugger, he could also make 909 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 3: a bigger difference as a rusher and as somebody who 910 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: could move from gap to gap, which was big for 911 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 3: him in his development. 912 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 2: And that's why here, how. 913 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: About a touchdown scorer with that return against the Rams. 914 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 2: That boy was slim new looks. Look how smelt he 915 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: looks because he lost all that weight. He felt lighter 916 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: on his feet. Now his pockets are going to feel 917 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: heavier in a good way. Grenard makes a ton of sense. 918 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: They got to keep Jaln Phillips that trade for him, 919 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: They bought low at the deadline, and he was so 920 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: effective for them. He reinstated some presence of an edge 921 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: rusher that they lacked since his son Reddick's final days there. 922 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 3: Because we know what they try to do with Bryce 923 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 3: Huff didn't work out. I think they have to find 924 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: a way to retain him because he's still relatively young, 925 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 3: even though he has. 926 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 2: Had a lot of injuries. 927 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: And Grenard one of my favorite players over the last 928 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: like four years. He was really effective for an just 929 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 3: complete afterthought of a Texans team, and then he goes 930 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 3: to Minnesota. They swap basically Grenard for Hunter. Both play 931 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 3: really well. Grenard would make a ton of sense for 932 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 3: the Eagles. It would be a textbook Howie Roseman move. 933 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's why this Jalen Carter thing. I 934 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: I just think the Eagles are going to be incredibly 935 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: active right now. Mike Garrifolo reports that any AJ Brown 936 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: talks have stalled. There was another report that the Patriots 937 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,959 Speaker 1: are not willing to give up a first round pick. 938 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: The Eagles don't look like they have cap space, but 939 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: they always find a way to make it done. But still, 940 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: you can only pay so many defensive linemen so much money. 941 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: And if we're hearing that teams have called about Jalen Carter, 942 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: they could get a haul while also possibly you know, 943 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: getting a free agent edge along with Dave. Just something 944 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: to watch over the next few days. No, no point 945 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: in in speculating too much, because we're going to find out. 946 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: Most of what's going to happen this offseason is gonna 947 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: happen in the next seventy two hours or so. You 948 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: mentioned Daniel Hunter. He got a one year extension by 949 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: the Texans. Dalton Schultz also got a one year extension 950 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: from the Texans. I mentioned Hunter especially because it was 951 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: like for forty million dollars. It was a crazy, crazy extension. 952 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: But the bigger picture here is, you know, it just 953 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: signs him through twenty twenty seven. Same thing with Schultz, 954 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: but the Texans. Every other move I see this week, 955 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: Cook is the Texans opening up cap space. And actually 956 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 1: that's what this one year deal does for Hunter. Lowers 957 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: his twenty six number, gives him more guaranteed money, pushes 958 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: down twenty seven, so just keep it. They also resigned EJ. Speed, 959 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: who's kind of a depth linebacker for them. Just keep 960 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: it an eye on, Like, what are the Texans doing? 961 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: I feel like they're doing something they're up to. 962 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean they reached the division A round 963 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: again and lost again, and they understand how close they are. 964 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 3: They could get consistent quarterback play, they'd probably be another 965 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 3: step ahead, or an offensive line that was not. 966 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: As bad as two years ago. 967 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 3: By the way, folks, everyone talking about how they've just 968 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: been terrible. Sack numbers wise, they cut it in half 969 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. They are 970 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: slowly getting better marginally speaking. But yeah, I mean Casario, 971 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: Wheelan and Delan. That number, by the way, for twenty 972 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: twenty seven for daneil Hunter forty five million dollars thirty 973 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 3: point two and guaranteed salary. I don't think he'll be 974 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: in Houston in twenty twenty seven. Wait, you said it's 975 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 3: guaranteed though in twenty points that were guaranteed in twenty seven, 976 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 3: But I bet you that's a new league year deadline 977 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 3: to become guaranteed. Okay, I don't know, man, he is. 978 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: He is one of those players talk about all time 979 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: bag getters. 980 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: He is that dude. And to get that much guaranteed 981 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: salary in twenty seven that probably he probably is making 982 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: that money, which is a crazy bet on one of 983 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: as John Gruden pointed out once on Monday Night Football, 984 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: awkwardly the best bodies in the NFL. He said, if 985 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: you could have one body, I always remember this when 986 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: he that's how long Hunter has been in the league 987 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: that John Grunen was announcing Monday Night Football, he would 988 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: want to have Daniel Hunter's body, And yeah, like the 989 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: one of the best paid players of his generation too, 990 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter keeping it going I think Will Anderson will 991 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: get a long term contract this offseason. Two. I mentioned 992 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: the Bills making some cuts earlier. This happened back on Friday, 993 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: but I did want to note Taylor Rap, Curtis Samuel, 994 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: and then Toron Johnson out the slot corner just an 995 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: indication that it's got to be different. I was surprised 996 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: to see Toron Johnson, who I think will have a 997 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: market as a slot cornerback. But just like, Okay, if 998 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: there ever was a Sean McDermott guy, Doron Johnson is 999 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: that guy. And we're getting rid of some of the 1000 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott guys. 1001 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're currently looking at at a cap deficit 1002 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 3: that they have to get out of. 1003 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: So you're gonna see some of these moves. 1004 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna see restructures because this is another team that 1005 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 3: got to the Divisional round, had Super Bowl ambitions. This 1006 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 3: was supposed to be the year no Chiefs, no Ravens 1007 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and now with a new head coach 1008 00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 3: but the same pressure to deliver. 1009 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 2: You got to find a way to retool this roster. 1010 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 3: And I think about some of these guys on the 1011 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: defensive side, like a Taylor Rap I don't think that 1012 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 3: people were very fond of him in Buffalo with the 1013 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,479 Speaker 3: way that he performed, not that he had a terrible season, 1014 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 3: but they just don't think that they were super fond 1015 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 3: of him and his presence in that secondary. 1016 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 2: So sometimes this is what you have to do to 1017 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: get better. 1018 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 1: And I know, but this was Toron Johnson. Bill's fans. 1019 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: If you're watching hit us up, you know, I thought 1020 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: he was still solid. I know he's had some injuries. 1021 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, he is thirty. Maybe just doesn't fit that 1022 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: this scheme, and it does show that the cap is 1023 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: real by the way that one of the dumbest comments 1024 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life right now said the 1025 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: Eagles only have one real championship. I don't even know 1026 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: what that means. They beat the alt they beat the 1027 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: goat Tom Brady in one of the best games he's 1028 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: ever had, five hundred yards or something preposterous, and then 1029 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: they beat the crap out of one on the other goats, 1030 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. How are those not as real as a. 1031 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand that that was the cowboy. New 1032 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: Orleans was incredibly dominant and lopsided. Those are two very 1033 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 3: real rings. Almost why they say, don't read the comments. 1034 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: They say, don't read the comments. Another guy that that 1035 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: snuck into my top fifty once once we got some 1036 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: of these signings and tags was justin Stronat and I knew, 1037 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: influenced by Ali Connelly, I was a little higher on 1038 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: him than probably consensus. An edge linebacker who can rush 1039 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: the passer, you know, an inside linebacker, but who can 1040 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: can rush the quarterback. And the Broncos agreed that he's 1041 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: an important piece for them. He is staying off the 1042 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: market thirteen million dollars over three years, ten million dollars guaranteed, 1043 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: you would assume in the next two years. So a 1044 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: good bit of business for him. Kind of a journeyman 1045 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: type who gets the most money of his career. And 1046 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: I and I did the math, shook from my original 1047 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: top fifty eight are off the board. That's it so far. 1048 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: So that's from re signings and tags. So for the 1049 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: most part, I think we're going to have a lot 1050 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: of like the big name players changing teams in the next. 1051 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: Three eight hours. 1052 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right that that's a that means we're gonna 1053 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: get an active Monday, Tuesday, WEDNESDA this week for sure. 1054 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 3: I also think about one of my most loyal Twitch 1055 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: viewers is a Broncos fan, and he jumped in there 1056 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 3: on Friday and was like, we got to keep Stirnad, 1057 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 3: we got to keep Singleton. Like these are guys that 1058 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 3: just define the Broncos defense. So to see him get 1059 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: paid was nice. 1060 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I he really earned. It makes you wonder 1061 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: Alex Singleton is a free agent there and so I 1062 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,479 Speaker 1: m hm, you don't know if he's gonna come come back. 1063 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: I did not crack my my one o one, but 1064 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: but a solid player who's played a lot for them. 1065 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: Another trade or another move over the weekend. Zire Franklin 1066 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: is going to the Packers. He's a linebacker who's been 1067 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: with the Colts for a while. Uh, he's going to 1068 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay for defensive tackle. Colby Wooden kind of assigned 1069 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: kway Walker is on his way out. I think in 1070 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: gredient Bay tire Franklin actually has a decent contract that 1071 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: they are taking as part of this deal. Colby wood 1072 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: In more of a younger, you know, defensive tackle prospect 1073 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: for the Colts. What did you think about that move 1074 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: for Green Bay? 1075 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that they're resupplying their linebacking 1076 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 3: court because I feel maybe I'm in the minority here, 1077 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 3: but I've liked kway Walker a decent amount, but he's 1078 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 3: also made some boneheaded plays in his career. Athletic guy 1079 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: that could definitely fill a lot of the job that 1080 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: they need filled at that position. But you think about 1081 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 3: Edge Cooper being lined up alongside him and the other 1082 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 3: studs that they have, it kind of makes more sense. 1083 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 3: And the Colts meanwhile kind of beef up up front. 1084 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 3: It's one of those interesting like one to one trades 1085 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, we have a need here, we 1086 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: have a need here. We don't really care to keep 1087 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 3: this guy that much if we can fill this need, 1088 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 3: all right, same here with this guy. 1089 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: Let's get it done right. 1090 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: And he's only making only six million dollars, which I 1091 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: was like, do you need to pay that much for him? 1092 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 1: Like is he a scheme fit? And then I thought, 1093 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah. Jonathan Gannon is the defensive coordinator of the Packers. 1094 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: Remember him. Jonathan Gannon has a great history of taking 1095 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: linebackers and just getting the most out of him. Like 1096 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: if I would say he has a specialty, that's one 1097 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: of them. So if he has a vision for zaire Franklin. 1098 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: I do too. He you know, he helped you know, 1099 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: many linebackers over the years. So let's make it happen. 1100 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: I mentioned the Rams earlier. We're talking packers while we're here. 1101 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: You see this for Shaun Gary, stuff like what happened 1102 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: over the weekend. 1103 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 2: He was hacked. 1104 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he says he was hacked. He put this 1105 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: statement out on Instagram that it was his time in 1106 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: Green Bay is coming to an end and blah blah blah, 1107 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: and then just like a little while later, he deleted 1108 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: it and then he said he was hacked. What do 1109 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: you think happened there? 1110 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, So I didn't see the initial post, and 1111 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 3: I would judge a lot of my analysis on this 1112 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 3: on how well the graphic was done, because it's either 1113 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 3: a prepped statement or it's something that's made out of emotion. 1114 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 3: There's usually a paragraph long caption that says goodbye the 1115 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 3: city that they were in and they're preparing for something new. 1116 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 3: Multiple Browns did it this offseason, and I didn't see it, 1117 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: so I can't tell you, but it looks pretty professional. 1118 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: When I got the call in twenty nineteen, it was 1119 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: one of the greatest moments of my life and always. 1120 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 2: Not getting hacked. I'm sorry, that's not getting hacked. 1121 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: That's what has come to an end. 1122 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: The agent called him and was like, take that down now, right. 1123 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: My read on it is they're trying to negotiate a 1124 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: different contract. Maybe it's a pay cut, maybe it's a 1125 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 1: some sort of restructure, and at some point he either 1126 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: was getting emotional or he thought it was over. But 1127 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: the contry, the negotiation not over until it's over, and 1128 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: my guess is that him and his agent are still 1129 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: working on like a possible deal. 1130 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 3: Super producer Eric Roberts has sent the screenshot to us 1131 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 3: in via text and yeah, he did not get hacked 1132 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 3: at all. 1133 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 2: This is super real. This is absolutely real. Your theory's 1134 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 2: very correct. 1135 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 1: We can't be still using hacked twenty twenty six because 1136 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: who's getting hacked? 1137 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 3: Although I will say I don't know if he got 1138 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: dms from people in the business who were like, hey, 1139 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 3: I'm up for an award with these podcast awards, click 1140 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 3: here to vote. 1141 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: That's getting hacked. 1142 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: Okay. By the way, we have a comment. I asked 1143 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: the Bills fans out there, any anyone for some Tarron 1144 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: Johnson perspective, and from super listener. Brad beats in here 1145 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: tarn Johnson. His tackling grades were down the past two seasons, 1146 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: with a mistackle rate at seventeen percent plus per PFF. 1147 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: I think it was really just about the cap hit 1148 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: and moving away from the four to five defense a 1149 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: great perspective. There a few more mistackles, changing defense, big 1150 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: cap number, this new coach. It is how these things happen. 1151 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: So keep an eye on Rashan Gary by the way, 1152 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: he would be an interesting guy to add to the 1153 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: edge group. Some official releases that we were keeping an 1154 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: eye on and expecting. Joe Mixon is officially cut. Don't 1155 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: know if his career is going to continue. Marshaun Lattimore 1156 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: was officially cut. It's crazy, but with his injuries, I'm 1157 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: not totally sure his career is going to continue. Their 1158 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: main Edmonds a linebacker for the Bills. His career will 1159 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: absolutely continue. He will have a market, but they did 1160 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: not find a trade for him at a big salary number, 1161 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: and so he is now hitting free agency. We have 1162 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: kicker news shook Chad Ryland staying with the Cardinals. The 1163 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: Colts re signed Blake Groupie, and then one of the 1164 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: wildest bits of news of the entire offseason. Eddie Pinero 1165 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: got ten million dollars guaranteed. I need to see the 1166 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: fine print if that's true. Ten million dollars guaranteed from 1167 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco four for seventeen total. The forty nine ers 1168 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: have been trying to solve this kicker situation. Yeah, for 1169 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: so long. I almost feel like they spent so much 1170 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: money shook just to convince themselves that if we spend 1171 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of money, then Eddie Pinero is going to 1172 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: stay as awesome as he was for the season that 1173 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: he just had for us. 1174 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 3: Look, they started last year with Jake Moody, it didn't 1175 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 3: work out. They ended up with Eddie Pinero, and it 1176 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 3: worked out remarkably well. 1177 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 2: He was what he was what twenty eight ofe You 1178 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: barely missed the kick. 1179 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 1: But it was one year and Ed's had a long career. 1180 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and over the course of his career, he's hit 1181 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: eighty nine point seven percent of his field goals. So yeah, 1182 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 3: he's not rock solid, but he was also the guy 1183 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 3: that began his career in the windy city of Chicago, 1184 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 3: spent a few years in Carolina. Look, you spent a 1185 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 3: draft pick on Jake Moody and it never worked out. 1186 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 3: You gave him time to figure it out and it 1187 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 3: didn't work out. Then you got this veteran who came in. 1188 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 3: You're rewarding him, and you're also trying to confirm your 1189 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 3: bias toward him by spending this much money and hoping 1190 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 3: it works out. And they're far from the first team 1191 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: to do this. The Browns did with Dustin Hopkins like 1192 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 3: two years ago and ended up with Andre Schmidt to 1193 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 3: start this year. So I think it happens more often 1194 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 3: than we realized, but hopefully it works out for them 1195 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 3: because he was good this year. 1196 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: Some other odds and ends. Before we get out of 1197 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: here and kind of start looking ahead to Monday, the 1198 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: Dolphins released their kicker Jason Sanders and their fullback alec Ingold, 1199 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,399 Speaker 1: So if you want a fullback, that's a good one 1200 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: on the market. Traylon Burks is back with the Commanders 1201 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: for like a contract up to four hundred million dollars. 1202 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: My most niche take right now is that Trail. I'm 1203 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: still not totally giving up on Trail, and Burke's just 1204 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: being kind of like a fun number four based on 1205 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: his commander's tape. Man he had some crazy catches. I 1206 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: know there was that one that was like the catch 1207 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: of the year, but he I don't know. I kind 1208 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: of liked that move for the Commanders as like a 1209 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: fourth fifth receiver to see if he can do something that. 1210 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,760 Speaker 1: The Cowboys put a second round tender on their kicker, 1211 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey haven't been able to work out a long 1212 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: term deal. Darius Williams, the longtime Rams cornerback, retired. The 1213 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: Panthers are expected to cut Andy Dalton if they cannot 1214 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: find a trade partner. That was David Newton from ESPN 1215 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: that reported that the Cardinals released Dalvin Tomlinson. Tommy DeVito 1216 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: is back with the Patriots right now. He's their third quarterback, 1217 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: but maybe he'll become their backup. And then Drake Thomas, 1218 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: who had some nice moments there for the Seahawks at linebacker, 1219 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: is back in Seattle for two years eight million dollars. 1220 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: Let's start spinning ahead a little bit, shook kind of 1221 00:55:54,280 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: what's next? Is there are anything you're looking at as 1222 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: we head into Monday and really the meat of this 1223 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: free agency season. 1224 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I now that we just covered it very 1225 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 3: quickly here. I want to know if a team would 1226 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 3: be willing to risk a second rounder to go after 1227 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey, So I think they would. I think that 1228 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 3: I think that that tender is actually pretty competitive, just 1229 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 3: given like a late second. Yeah, I would if I 1230 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 3: was in need of a kicker desperately, I think that 1231 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 3: I would. 1232 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 1: Why not? Funny who just got a late too? The 1233 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: Bears did for Curtis Samuel. Do they need a kicker now? 1234 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: Kiro Santos is fine? I was like, would he? I 1235 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: think that is pick sixty. That was why I was 1236 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: sticking in my head. If nothing else, just make the 1237 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys spend, spend a huge amount of money, but then 1238 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: it kind of ties you up for a week. That 1239 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: would be really funny. It does feel like Alec Pearce 1240 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: is maybe a candidate here to get the most guaranteed 1241 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: money of anyone in free agency, now that he is 1242 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: this close. The Patriots, the Raiders, the Commanders, and the 1243 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: Titans are all reportedly in the mix for Pierce. Patriots 1244 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: fans are really getting excited about it, but you know, 1245 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: Vegas Commanders again, it's these same teams. I still if 1246 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: I had to pick a team, I would go Colts. 1247 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: But as we get closer, I might go with the 1248 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: field over the Colts now, even though I kind of 1249 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: think in the end the Colts will find a way 1250 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: to keep him. Yeah. 1251 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 3: So Pierce said this past week that he felt he 1252 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: earned the right to test free agency, but he also 1253 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 3: acknowledged that quarterback has a big part in it, you know, 1254 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: plays a big role in making his decision. And yes, 1255 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 3: the transition tack is on Daniel Jones, but we don't 1256 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: know when exactly he'll be back or what form he'll 1257 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 3: be in. And if Pierce believes that he is going to, 1258 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 3: you know, have sustained success, it's going to have to 1259 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 3: be with the quarterback. So if you look at the 1260 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 3: other three candidates, Drake may is very enticing, very enticing, 1261 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 3: probably gets more money offered to him the Raiders or 1262 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 3: the Commanders. But you have Fernanda Mendoza expected to be 1263 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 3: the number one pick of the Raiders coming in there. 1264 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: And then the Commanders have Jade Daniels. But can they 1265 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 2: protect him, can they keep him upright? And prevents? 1266 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: Just who offers the most money there? Shooky, that's all. 1267 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 3: But if all the money is the same, then where 1268 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 3: are you going? Because that actually becomes somewhat intriguing. I 1269 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 3: would probably rank the Raiders last on that list because 1270 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 3: of the unknown. I'd put Drake May and the Patriots first, 1271 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 3: although he got the battle for targets with Kaish on Booty. 1272 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on that money, you're getting it and a 1273 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: great deep ball. 1274 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 3: Thrower running the streak and the dagger and booter running, 1275 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: Booty running the dig Yeah, let's do it. 1276 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: I want it. I want it. There's a report to 1277 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: the commanders in on him, which would be interesting. They 1278 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: also seem in on tight ends Isaiah likely maybe as 1279 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: a possibility. One thing I'd like to see. Tom Pelisero 1280 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: had his list of players who will get a surprisingly 1281 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: good contract and free agency, and they had our two 1282 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: highly ranked tight ends from my one oh one, kitat 1283 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: And and Charlie Kohlar on his list. So I seeing that, 1284 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious how quickly the edge market goes. Where does 1285 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: Hendrickson go, Where does Jalen Phillips go, Cowboys, Bucks, Eagles, 1286 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: I think all in the mix for the big edges. 1287 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: A Dafeoway obviously out there, to Romeo Dobbs is maybe 1288 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: like kind of the backup for a lot of these teams. 1289 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: If you don't get Alec Pierce, even though he's a 1290 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: very different player. I just think a lot of the 1291 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: same teams could be going for him. I think the 1292 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are laying in the weeds there. But 1293 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: no sense predicting too much because it's all going to 1294 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: be happening by the time, you know, people really start listening. 1295 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: I also wanted to say before we said goodbye, just 1296 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: rest in peace to Bob Harlan, the long time Packers 1297 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: president and CEO. Died on Thursday at the age of 1298 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: eighty nine. And we had Kevin Harlan on the show 1299 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: last summer and he told a great story about how 1300 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: his dad, Bob Harlan helped to, you know, help Mike 1301 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Homgren and Ron Wolf really execute the Brett Favre trade that, 1302 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, even though he wasn't the one making the decision, 1303 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: he let the football people do it, even though everyone 1304 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: was giving them a heat. That was a time in 1305 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: the Packers history where you had sort of this you know, 1306 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: committee that was almost overseeing things and having to rubber 1307 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: stamp all these big moves, and Bob Harlan said, no, 1308 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: let Ron Wolf make the football moves. He brings in 1309 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Bret Brett Favre. Similar thing happens with Aaron Rodgers and 1310 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Bob Harlan ran the Packers for over eighteen years and 1311 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 1: really turned it around. If you weren't around in the nineties, 1312 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: like there was a minute there were Packers weren't in 1313 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: great shape. There was some question about whether they were 1314 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: going to be able to keep the team their long term. 1315 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: They end up doing that stock sale and go public. 1316 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: They renovate lambeau Field and now it's really a treasure. 1317 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you know he won a 1318 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and they won another one after he was 1319 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: running the team too. Obviously you know his son, Kevin Harlan. 1320 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: We're friends with his granddaughter, Olivia Harlan deck or two, 1321 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and so our thoughts are with the family. Just wanted 1322 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to mention that before we got out of there. Man Chook, 1323 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: hope you're ready. You're gonna be writing a lot of 1324 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: posts in the coming days, and yeah, we're gonna have 1325 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: you on NFL Daily later in the week. 1326 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm ready. 1327 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 3: This is this is when we set the table for 1328 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 3: what lies ahead in April and then going into the season. 1329 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: This is hits a peak right here right. 1330 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, by Friday, things will be calming down and 1331 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: the shows are going to be great, but we'll have 1332 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: a off season winter. Yeah, most of the moves will 1333 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: will happen really that matter this offseason by Friday, and 1334 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna be analyzing that all week long. So if 1335 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: you're listening to us now, come back with us. We're 1336 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna be on YouTube all week long, Monday through Wednesday, 1337 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: I should say, at seven pm East Coast time, four 1338 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: pm on the Best Coast. And we're also going to 1339 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: be on the NFL Channel, So if you have the 1340 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: NFL channel, which is the free over the air NFL network, 1341 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: it'll be me. It'll be Steve Wisch and Jordan from 1342 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: the studio. Let's hit that music. Let's get out of here. 1343 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Eric really appreciate everyone joining us for this live YouTube 1344 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday evening. A little different. I'm really excited, and 1345 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm also annoyed because the second we say goodbye, Shook, 1346 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: this is already going to be out of date. So 1347 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: we'll see you on Monday podcasts all week long. Can't 1348 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: wait for you that