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Speaker 1: Coming up on our show Today. We hear from White

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Speaker 1: House senior COVID advisor on the CDC's decision to advise

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Speaker 1: vaccinated people to go maskless. What does this mean for

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Speaker 1: businesses and why now? And Republican senators met with President

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden this week to continue negotiations on the infrastructure bill.

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Speaker 1: How likely is it, though, that something bipartisan can pass.

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Speaker 1: I'm here on this happy Friday along with one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite colleagues of Bloomberg Government Congressional reporter Jack Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 1: You know it's going to be a good Friday when

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Speaker 1: both of us are in the studio and we are

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Speaker 1: joined by the always fantastic Bloomberg Politics contributor Jennie Schanzano. Genie,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being here to break down so much

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Speaker 1: news this week. But I think there's one big story

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Speaker 1: that has everyone literally breathing a little easier. If you

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Speaker 1: are fully vaccinated. The CDC says you no longer have

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Speaker 1: a big, big step back to normal. And our colleague

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Speaker 1: David Weston discussed the c d c s decision with

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Speaker 1: sound on that. So this was a decision made by

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Speaker 1: fall when they fall. Um. Secondly was that the vaccines,

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Speaker 1: if you are fully vaccinated, I'm happy to say I am,

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Speaker 1: and Jack, I wonder a little bit why in this case,

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Speaker 1: at least Stephonic, why did House Republicans wind up going

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Speaker 1: for someone who has more of a moderate record when

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Speaker 1: in two they're going to need to appeal to the

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Speaker 1: very conservative Republican base. Yeah, well, at least in many cases,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are concerned about appealing to a

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Speaker 1: conservative base. But what really seems to matter is people's

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Speaker 1: position on Trump. So I don't know if I have

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Speaker 1: a perfect answer to why at least Staphonics specifically other

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Speaker 1: than Trump came out in favor of her. But I

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Speaker 1: can tell you as as much as chip Roy is

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Speaker 1: a straight a student on these Republicans scorecards, these conservative

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Speaker 1: ideological scorecards. He pushed back as well, not quite as

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Speaker 1: vocally as Liz Cheney, but he pushed back on the

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Speaker 1: votes to overturn the Arizona and Pennsylvania election results. So really,

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Speaker 1: at least Deponic was the one aligned with Trump and

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Speaker 1: that Trump's ideology, even for hardline conservatives, it seems. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was just going to say, they also had

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Speaker 1: the Michael Wood lass in the Texas special election. He

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Speaker 1: was the anti Trumper there. He lost big, And I

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Speaker 1: think it's another sort of reminder to Republicans they could

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Speaker 1: be that position if they go against Trump. So they're

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Speaker 1: either being quiet or they are just going all in

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Speaker 1: for Trump. And now Stephonic absolutely and you know from here,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is that big question about what happens

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Speaker 1: next in two. At this point, because of both redistricting

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Speaker 1: and historical precedent, midterms are great for the party that

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Speaker 1: is not in power in the White House. Republicans have

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Speaker 1: a lot of potential to go ahead and to win

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Speaker 1: in two. But you have heard this concern about the

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Speaker 1: messaging about the need to appear in a unified way,

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Speaker 1: a concern that Cheney was sort of breaking up that

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Speaker 1: unity a little bit. By continuously responding to Trump. I mean, Jack,

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Speaker 1: you and I covered the stuff all the time in Congress.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how important do lawmakers really value that message

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Speaker 1: and that unified message? Yeah, I mean, just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: Liz Cheney was definitely distracting from what Republicans want to

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Speaker 1: talk about. She wasn't getting a lot of press on policy.

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Speaker 1: It was fighting with Trump. And really, if Publicans don't

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Speaker 1: step on a rake, they can do well in the midterms,

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Speaker 1: partly because it's mid terms and partly because of redistricting,

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Speaker 1: so that things are looking good as long as they

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Speaker 1: don't make big mistakes. Right. Well, that's this is Emmie

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Speaker 1: Wilkins and Jack Fitzpatrick coming up stick around. This is Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack Fitzpatrick here with Bloomberg Government reporter Emily Wilkins

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Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Politics contributor Jeanie Snzano. Guys, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the House, Republican leadership issues. We talked about Andy Slavitt

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Speaker 1: in the CDC. But so much going on this week

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Speaker 1: in the news and coming up next week. What am

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Speaker 1: I What am I missing? What did we leave out?

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Speaker 1: Genie Snzano, what's on your radar? You know? I think

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Speaker 1: on my radar is sort of the aftermath of this

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Speaker 1: colonial pipeline shut down. We understand the hacker organization dark

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Speaker 1: Side has said that they are disbanding, but we also

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Speaker 1: understand that these groups come back in other forms. Raises

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Speaker 1: significant questions about cryptocurrency and the role of the government,

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Speaker 1: which is my you know, personal interest. We've seen this

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Speaker 1: executive order out by Biden, but much more needs to

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Speaker 1: be done. And one question is, since they paid the

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Speaker 1: company five million dollars according to Bloomberg in cryptocurrency, is

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Speaker 1: that going to encourage more attacks like this on critical

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Speaker 1: infrastructure around the world. Yeah, that seems like something where

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Speaker 1: one executive order doesn't solve every problem. And we'll see

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Speaker 1: how Congress steps in, if they can step in on

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan basis. What else, Emily, what's on your radar? So,

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Speaker 1: as we all know in d C. It is still

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Speaker 1: infrastructure Week or is I am trying to now call

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Speaker 1: it infrastructure Summer. I think it has a ring to it.

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Speaker 1: I think it should catch on. But we saw some

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Speaker 1: big meetings this week with President Biden. I sat down

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday with the top Democrat and Republican in both

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Speaker 1: the House and the Senate, and then on Thursday he

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Speaker 1: sat down with six Republican senators just trying to find

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Speaker 1: a way forward, specifically on the infrastructure package, the rows,

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Speaker 1: the bridges, the highways, and look, you know, we talked

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Speaker 1: to Shelley Moore Capital, who's sort of been the lead

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Speaker 1: on the Republican negotiations after this. She said she felt

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Speaker 1: like the meeting went well, like they made a lot

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Speaker 1: of progress. She said, negotiations we're going to continue ongoing.

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Speaker 1: But you know you're also seeing House Republicans next week.

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Speaker 1: Uh sorry, Yeah, House Republicans are going to be introducing

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Speaker 1: their eighty billion dollar infrastructure plan. This is different from

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Speaker 1: that five eighty six billion dollars that House Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the Senate proposed, but both, of course are far less

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Speaker 1: than the two point to five trillion that President Biden

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Speaker 1: put out in his plan, and so it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what House Republicans want to see what they

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Speaker 1: might be able to get on board with. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the Senate's really the key because that's the one where

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Speaker 1: they need the sixty votes um, but definitely trying to

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Speaker 1: to get a line in the lay of the land

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Speaker 1: and the other big question that I'm watching for right now.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have laid down this red line where they say

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Speaker 1: that they don't want to do anything that's going to

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Speaker 1: change the text proposal, and that's what Biden has has

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Speaker 1: targeted with his corporate tax, his capital gains. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be seeing if there's any sort of path forward

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Speaker 1: on that proposal. How do they wind up pain for

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Speaker 1: the spell? Yeah, I want to follow up on that.

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's a lot of bipartisanship on infrastructure

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Speaker 1: spending a lot of time. You can get a bipartisan

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Speaker 1: deal if you offer money for things both sides like,

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Speaker 1: But how do you pay for it? And does the

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Speaker 1: President continue to insist that it has to be paid for? Genie,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious what you think. Are we going to

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Speaker 1: see just a deficit financed infrastructure bill or or something

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Speaker 1: that relies on some sort of gimmick, or do you

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Speaker 1: think they actually agree on pay for is? Ultimately, I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be very difficult to agree on

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Speaker 1: pay force. Um. I think in the end Democrats will

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Speaker 1: go it alone via reconciliation and Republicans will not be happy.

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Speaker 1: I hope I am wrong about that. On a Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be so negative, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I just can't get around you know, Mitch McConnell yesterday

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Speaker 1: talking about a red line. Um, I don't think there

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Speaker 1: is much appetite in the Republican caucus in either the

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Speaker 1: House or the Senate to revisit the tax bill. So

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Speaker 1: I think they want to go for pay for us,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think Democrats, looking at the letters many

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Speaker 1: liberals and and even moderate sent to Biden yesterday, have

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Speaker 1: a stomach for that. So I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: see Democrats go it alone in the end. But I

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Speaker 1: do think Biden is trying to make a good faith

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Speaker 1: effort to show that he is reaching across the aisle

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Speaker 1: this week and next week. Genie, you make a great

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Speaker 1: point there, because there is also pressure on President Biden

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Speaker 1: from Democrats saying, hey, how long are we going to

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Speaker 1: do these negotiations here? There's pressure on Biden to go

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Speaker 1: it alone. I mean, we've heard Senate Majority Leader Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer kind of say, look, these bipartisan discussions are great,

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Speaker 1: but at some point we're going to have to decide

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Speaker 1: how to move forward. And you also heard from House

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Speaker 1: Progressive Caucus chair A Pramilla Jaia Paul, who came out

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Speaker 1: with a tweet this week saying, you know what, Democrats,

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Speaker 1: we have the votes, Why are we going to negotiate

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Speaker 1: down with the Republicans. Let's just give the America can people,

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Speaker 1: you know, as big of a package as we possibly can. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I noticed that Roger Wicker, one of the Republican

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Speaker 1: senators who was in the meeting UH with the president,

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Speaker 1: said afterward, and this is something that the President hasn't

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Speaker 1: announced or put in these terms, but Wicker said, Biden

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Speaker 1: has made it pretty clear to them he's going to

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Speaker 1: try to work with them on a bipartisan infrastructure package

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Speaker 1: and then use the budget reconciliation process, which allows you

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Speaker 1: to do something partisan, to see what else Democrats can

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Speaker 1: do on their own. So we might see kind of

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Speaker 1: a double whammy whether things go well or not on

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan infrastructure bill. I'll be interested to see if

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Speaker 1: Democrats just follow up that success or failure and say,

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Speaker 1: let's see what we can do on our own. You

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Speaker 1: know what's on my radar today and going into next week. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And this dovetails with some of the January sixth discussion.

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Speaker 1: We had about how House Republican leadership is respondering responding.

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Speaker 1: But we saw some news today from how Democrats that

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Speaker 1: they put out bill too up security, ramp up security

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Speaker 1: at the Capitol. And also we saw a bipartisan agreement

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Speaker 1: that was brokered by Benny Thompson and John Kako, who

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Speaker 1: are the top members on the House Homeland Security Committee,

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Speaker 1: to create this ten member commission to review what happened

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Speaker 1: January six, the riot at the Capitol and the lead up.

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Speaker 1: I'm really curious how that's going to go because we

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Speaker 1: didn't really get a wholehearted endorsement from Kevin McCarthy of

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Speaker 1: all people. Now they say they have Republican buying because

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Speaker 1: Katko helped negotiate this, But we're gonna have to see

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Speaker 1: a vote in the House to create this commission. I'm curious, Jeanie,

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Speaker 1: do you look at this and say, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: that's pretty bipartisan. It sounds like Republicans had a hand

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Speaker 1: in creating this or what what are your expectations for

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Speaker 1: a vote that could happen next week to create this commission.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to be surprised if McCarthy goes

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Speaker 1: along with it. If it is restricted to January six.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about the Liz Cheney Cheney

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Speaker 1: oustair a few minutes ago, and of course that was

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Speaker 1: a big point of contention between Cheney and Kevin McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: She wanted the January six investigation to focus on that.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to expand it to other things like the

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Speaker 1: protest last summer, Black Lives Matter and other things. So

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Speaker 1: if this is truly focused on January six, I would

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Speaker 1: be surprised if McCarthy in particular goes along with it.

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Speaker 1: But I do hope we get this commission, of course,

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Speaker 1: because this was a monumental event and in American history

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Speaker 1: that needs to be investigated by a bipartisan, independent commission.

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Speaker 1: Actually speaking about you know, Liz Cheney and Kevin McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: I believe Cheney said this afternoon that she thought that

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Speaker 1: if there is this January six commission that gets up

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Speaker 1: and running, that they should have McCarthy go ahead and

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Speaker 1: testify in front of that commission sort of, you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about little his role. You know, he spoke with

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Speaker 1: the President on that day. Um, all the rioters were

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Speaker 1: storming into the Capitol. You've heard a couple other lawmakers

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Speaker 1: in Congress sort of speak about what he said about

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Speaker 1: those conversations, So that also I wonder if that's something

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Speaker 1: that's going through his mind right now, whether or not

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Speaker 1: he might wind up in front of this commission, if

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Speaker 1: he winds up giving it to go ahead. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: seems like they're gonna be a lot of fights ahead

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Speaker 1: on that issue, regardless of whether they vote to create

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Speaker 1: the commission. You know, it says in the outline of

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Speaker 1: this they need bipartisan support to subpoena anybody. So that's

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Speaker 1: a big question, who do you subpoena even if this

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Speaker 1: is created. One other thing I think I'd be remiss

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Speaker 1: if I didn't mention this big in the news this

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Speaker 1: week and continuing to be a big story is what

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Speaker 1: is happening uh in Israel and Gaza. Yesterday big news

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Speaker 1: on Israel with its uh land and air attacks on

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Speaker 1: Hamas fighters. I am curious how we see the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration respond to this because it's so so sensitive. We

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Speaker 1: actually have sound from White House Press Secretary Jen Saki,

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Speaker 1: if we could tee that up, that that gets to

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Speaker 1: how how tough this issue is and how difficult it

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Speaker 1: is for the US to figure out exactly how to

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Speaker 1: UH to broach this. Let's play the sound on that. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: what's happening on the ground. UH. The loss of life,

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Speaker 1: the loss of children's lives, the loss of family UH,

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Speaker 1: is incredibly tragic. It's horrific to watch. Jeanie, what do

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Speaker 1: Most people I've spoken with say probably not, that there's

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Speaker 1: This bill on research and development meant to compete with China,

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Speaker 1: been really something. Thank you again to my co host

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Speaker 1: Emily Wilkins and to Bloomberg Politics contributor Jeanie Schanzan. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack Fitzpatrick. This is Bloomberg