1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Everyone is the Jordan Romano and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: Everybody, Reubenhmar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd so lucky is New 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Year's Eve and we're. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: Up talking ball early in the morning. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: How are you guys doing you guys have a good 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Christmas Hanukkah holidays? 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: Yes you did? 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice. Check out my my big Christmas gift. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: That wow, please get in there. Tight it? 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ao, we need a tight shot. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: So Jim is Jim is holding up a Philly Show 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: mug that says World's best podfather. 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: My daughter got my daughter Mary got me. 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: This is a. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: It's uh, I'm not sure she we might have to 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 4: arrest her for violating licensing and copyright agreement. 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: But a little gift that is very cool man. 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: That is very great gift man. Yeah, that is. We 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: don't have that on merchandise. We don't have that on 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: a on our merch list yet. 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Not yet, but maybe at some point. But Jim, you 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: are sporting your your The Philly Show T shirt, which 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: you can get at for the show dot com. 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: Very nice. And Ruben, what do you got going on? 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: It? 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: Says? I see a suspect. 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I have a little suspect group. This 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: was the shirt that I wore underneath my uniform at 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: in Cleveland before the ninety fourteen And this was we 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: made up shirts for the guys who were on the 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: bench who basically never played. If you remember, Mike Cargove 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: basically stamped that line up. It was like Lofton and 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the Scale and Byerga. 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: And Albert Bell. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Albert Bell in that unbelievable lineup. So me, Candy Maltonado, 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Alberto Espinoza, Wayne Kirby, myself, Tony Pania, and then Renee 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Gonzalez there in the bottom and so you know, but 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, but here's. 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: But we got skills on the back? Yeah, but we 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: got skills is on the back. 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: That's on the back. So I encourage folks to join 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: us on YouTube. You can see this on the back 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: of Ruben's shirt. It says, but we got skills. That's 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: like saying, uh, you know, but she has a nice personality. 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: That is so funny. 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean on that ninety four team, Yeah, it must 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: have been you guys to get a start in a 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: game you know. 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: That didn't happened, didn't happen very often. I mean every 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: once in a while, Espinosa would get a start because 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Jim Toman was playing third base. Then so as Pep 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: would come in for defense. At the end of the game, 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, they had Eddie Murray and Paul Sorrento basically 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Patuning in first. Whoever did d H that day would 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: play first base. So you know, we had Madry Murray's right, 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: we had Kenny lofton center. We had Albert Bellen left, 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: we had by Ergert second, the skeleton short and Tony 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: and then behind the plate was uh was Sandy ala 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: par So. I mean Tony Panya was the only guy 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: that played because he would, you know, give Sandy an opportunity. 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: But it was just an amazing ball club. I mean, 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: these guys raked. I mean, anytime you have Manny Ramirez 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: hitting like seven in your light up here, she should 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: be fine. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: Seeing that, seeing that shirt Ruben and with suspect on it, 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: and all the reserved players. And I know Charlie man 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: Manuel was your hitting coach, and it reminds me of 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: a well Charlie's great pieces of wisdom. He used to 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: he used to call certain players coach killers because you're 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: pitching batting practice all the time, and your arm would 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: fall off, but they would never get any better. 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: They were coach killers. That was That was me. That 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: was one of those. He said, eased to call me 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the most high maintenance bench guy in the history of 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the game, because that would work, you know, pretty hard. 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to try to stay ready. 78 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Right. 79 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: But but the ratio between actual and bats on the 80 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: field and the actual swings I took in the cage 81 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: pretty incredible, large ratio. And but Charlie worked with us. 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I won a few games force and became sort of 83 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: valuable because I did win a couple of games in 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: some in some situations and congitting or coming in late 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, and so so at least I was worth 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, so a little something. 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: Look at look at the bright side room, and you 88 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: grew up to be a great podcaster. 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Right. 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: You don't have a month. 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: For everything? Right, No, I don't have a month. 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: You don't have the podfather, but podcast? 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: How about this, I'll show this. 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Right, as my kids would say, very very jelly, Mike, you. 95 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: Know, I don't know did your They didn't do this 96 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: when I was a kid for Christmas? But uh, maybe 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: you're your your girls. They're obviously a lot older than 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: my kids. But do they have these things at school 99 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: where you give them twenty bucks they can go in 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: and get you guys a Christmas skiff because that's like 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: a new thing now where so my daughter had went 102 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: in and got me this mug. It just says number 103 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: one Dad on it, which is funny as part of 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: her you know, going to school, like buy the mug 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: for two bucks, you wrap it up, you give your 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: dad a gift. 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: So, uh, those those things are cool. 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: You know another number one dad? 109 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and the number one that's right, that's right. 110 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Gosh. 111 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: So the last time since we last talked, uh, the 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: Phillies actually made another move and I think we should 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: we should talk about it. It's not a big sexy move, 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: but they signed Joe Ross to a one year, four 115 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: million dollar deal and they apparently were talking to Joe 116 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Ross before they got Hazel Loose Hayesus Lozardo in that 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: trade with the Marlins. Ross is going to slide into 118 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: the bullpen. He can start. Obviously he started with the Nationals. 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: He was pretty effective last year with the Brewers out 120 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: of the bullpen, so that's he's now kind of like 121 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: their fourth third or fourth right hander in the pen. 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: Uh provides them some depth. We love depth. 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the Joel Ross move 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: and maybe what it means for Taiwan Walker or what 125 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: it means for the bullpen? 126 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: Good room. 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, this is a guy who's 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: been around a while. He's sort of found himself as 129 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a bullpen guy. He's been a starter for a long time. 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: He's had some injury issues, had this and that, bounced 131 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: around a little bit. But I've known Joan Ross and 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: seen him pitch, even when he was pitching way back 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: in Cal. He pitched for my for my good buddy 134 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Dave Esker way back when when he was coaching at Cal, 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and then he switched over to Stanford. But did David, 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: But you know, great Sinker always had it like a power. 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Sinker was one of the guys that never really locked 138 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: in as a starter. But it seems like he's hung 139 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: around long enough to be able to make himself a 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: serviceable right hander. Seems durable enough. He just don't Hopefully 141 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: he bounces back again for a pretty good year this year. 142 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: But I think this is a great signing because anytime 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: you can create you know, more depth than you said it, Todd. 144 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I do love depth, and you also protect 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: yourself a little bit more on your rotation. In your rotation. Obviously, 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: getting Wizardo makes for a grete five, but you know, 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: five starters. I don't think he's gonna be a fifth starter, 148 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: but I think it's just it's really important to have 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: as many starters as possible starters as you possibly can. 150 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: And this is a guy I can eat up some 151 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: innings for you if you have some breakdowns. 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, a good year last year, and he's a swing man, 153 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: so I mean that's I mean, he is the definition 154 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: of depth and the fact that you can use him 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: in two different roles. He kind of almost feels like 156 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: that Turnbull signing. 157 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: YEP a year ago. 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: And Turnbull has given him good, good returns until his injury. 159 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's the biggest cliche going, but 160 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: you can never have enough pitching, never ever, ever, So 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: all in favor of it, all in favor of a guy. 162 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: You know, he's a couple of years you moved from 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: injury and he kind of got his feet back last 164 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: year or got his legs back. Those guys sometimes get 165 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: better that second year back, a year stronger, a year 166 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: more confident, and then they start focusing on the future 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: where they see a payday. So a lot of times 168 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: you get the best they have left and maybe this 169 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: is a case in point there. 170 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: And that's really not going to be a high leverage guy. 171 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: And then it reminds me of that Channell Park type 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: of situation, like where that's a good one. You know, 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: you can you can swing him around, you you can 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: start some you can relieve and you know, maybe he's 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: really found his niche as a reliever. 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 177 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you think about how healthy the rotation has 178 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: been over the past couple of years. It's just nice 179 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: to know that if somebody goes down. Because we've talked 180 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: about this, Dave Dombrowski, he said the second half of 181 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: the season a big reason why he thought the Philly 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: struggled down the stretches. They didn't have anybody to really 183 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: step in and replace Ranger, and you know, Taiwan Walker 184 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: wasn't doing the job, and some of those number five 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: starts doing the job. 186 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: So you feel a lot better about Joe Ross if. 187 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: Somebody else would go down for a few weeks, a month, 188 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: two months, than you know, maybe some of these other options. 189 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: So if you look at the bullpen right now, you 190 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: have the right handers in the pen are Jordan Romano, 191 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Ryan Kirkering, Jose Ruiz, Joe Ross. The lefties are Matt Strom, 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado, Tanner Banks. Eight man bullpen. That leaves one 193 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: spot open. Taiwan Walker is going to come to camp 194 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: as of now and he's going to compete for a 195 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: job in the bullpen, and then you're looking at other possibilities. 196 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at forty man roster guys. I know 197 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: they signed some guys to a minor league deals that 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: I'll have a shot. Max Lazar last year pitched in 199 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: the bullpen down the stretch. Alan Rangel, who is they 200 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: got from the Angels mid season, pitched and finished in 201 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: Triple A. They like him a little bit. Devin Sweet 202 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: who pitched in Triple A with Detroit last year. Michael Mercado, 203 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: who's obviously got to throw way more strikes to have 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: any shot to pitch in the bullpen. But those are 205 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: kind of the guys right now looking to be in 206 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: that eight So, you know, Taiwan Walker, I guess you 207 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: know he's going to come in and compete. But I 208 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: think the Joe I don't know, does Joe Ross situation 209 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: kind of push him out a little bit more? 210 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: Well? Is Joe Ross the seventh guy by your count? 211 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's by this he would be the seventh guy 212 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: by my count unless I'm missing somebody. 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, if Taiwan Pitch is okay, I 214 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: guess he could be the eighth guy, kind of the 215 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: long man, mop up man, continue working with him. But 216 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 4: you know, who knows. I mean, he might not make 217 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: it out of clip Water. I think the best thing 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: he's got going for him is is the number thirty six. 219 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about Robin Robbers. 220 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: You're talking about thirty six million. 221 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 222 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, they own a lot of money. It's it's 223 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: tough to just say goodbye to that. So I think 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: he maybe exhaust a few more a little more time 225 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: with him and see what he what he's going to 226 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: bring in after this offseason conditioning program. 227 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 228 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: But you know, Bill gonna go a lot deeper than 229 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: eight in that bullpen in twenty twenty five. We're gonna 230 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: see him running a bunch of ghost guys that you 231 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: named through there. 232 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing I'll say about the guys that 233 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: you named, is I don't know the last time that 234 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: you actually put guys on paper who you know come 235 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: February fifteenth, that those are the guys that ended up 236 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: breaking with the team. I mean, it's always different. There's 237 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: always something that pops up. Somebody gets tweaked, somebody gets hurt. 238 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: You never have a clean sprint training, you know, it 239 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: just inevitably never ever happens. And typically it's with pitching. 240 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, some guy gets something, a blister, tweaks his hammy, 241 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: a groin is you know, his elbow starts to bother 242 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: them whatever the case may be, or it comes gets behind. 243 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's the issue I think right again, I 244 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: just think having a guy like Ross around is a 245 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: helpful piece just to move things forward. 246 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Haze's WIZARDO had a little introductory zoom on on Monday 247 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: and talked about his health that was a big thing, 248 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: talked about his excitement joining the team. He says, I 249 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: got to experience Red October firsthand. He started Game one 250 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty three NL Wildcard Series, which the 251 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Phillies won, so. 252 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: He got to experience that. 253 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Says he's excited about coming to Philly. Being on the 254 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: other side of that, Jim, you were on that call. 255 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: What jumped out at you about Hajesu Sizardo. You asked 256 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: him some questions, a few questions about his back, which 257 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: is you know, anytime anybody talks about back, you know, 258 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: I stress stress reaction in the back, and then he 259 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: says you're and then they say they're healthy. Of course, 260 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: you know, you still get in the back of your 261 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: mind to go all right, but it's. 262 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: Well, what jumped out? What jumped out at me? I mean, 263 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: nice young man, nice personality, gave really good answers, thoughtful answers, 264 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: and he's got really good hair. So those are the 265 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: things that immediately jumped out of me. 266 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: He does have good hair, Yeah, he's. 267 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: Got good hair. But of more importance the health was 268 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: to me the biggest issue that needed to be covered, 269 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 4: and he explained what exactly the stretch reaction was. It 270 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: was sounded like it was an irritation of a vertebrae 271 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: from twisting and turning and maybe the just the active 272 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: pitching and sometimes you get inflamed and the only way 273 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: to you know, flush that inflammation out of there and 274 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: that sortness out of there is to shut down. He 275 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: said he had to shut down, but he feels good now, 276 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: he's one hundred percent. He says he doesn't even think 277 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 4: about it, and all the medical people have told him that, 278 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: you know, once you kind of flushed this out of there, 279 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: it usually doesn't come back. So Phillies have to be 280 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: hoping that is the case, because boy, you know, they've 281 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: built themselves a nice rotation with his edition, both talented 282 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: and deep. And I think he could be a really 283 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: good fit here if I mean, if it's always the 284 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: advanced copy on every season, if if you're healthy, and 285 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: that goes you know, up and down the roster, if 286 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: they get good performance from him, and the rest of 287 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: the guys will have a pretty good rotation. But you know, 288 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: I go back to I like to pick up, and 289 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 4: I know they gave up a really good, promising young shortstop. 290 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: The guy's nineteen years old, and you're in your you're 291 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: in your window. You need to you need to punch 292 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: one through the red zone into the end zone here. 293 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: And I definitely like to pick up. And I like 294 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: the things I heard him say about his health and 295 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: his desire to get back to where he was in 296 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three when he had that really good season 297 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: thirty two starts, one hundred and I forgot how many 298 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: innings hundred and seventy five. Maybe so nice addition, set 299 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: all the right things on New Year's Eve, but the 300 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: proof will come in April, May, June, July, August, September, October. 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So my perst impression of this 302 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: kid was does he have a babyface or what he 303 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: looks like he's seven years old, which I love, But 304 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: I also know that he's a killer on the mound. 305 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: I know he's got that. He's got that. You know, 306 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: he loves the fire, he loves and I think this 307 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: is gonna elevators. I really do think that phil pitching 308 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: and Philadelphia will elevate his game. That's my feeling on it. 309 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, he talked about some of 310 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the things that he felt like he could be better at. 311 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: One of them was game planning, and I started thinking 312 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: about it. You know, Philly's having lost Brian Kaplan, and like, 313 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: who's going to be game planning some of these It's 314 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: not going to just be Caleb Cotham. It's going to 315 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: be somebody who's been brought in now a new guy 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: sort of brought in to sort of help game plan. 317 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: So that'll be an interesting piece of how this all 318 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: works out. Because Kaplin was a very good game planner. 319 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: It's one thing that he did extremely well. He's now 320 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: over in Arizona as a pitching coach, so that'll be interesting. 321 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I really felt I liked I read faces. 322 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: We talk about this a lot. I like faces. This 323 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: guy seemed natural. He's seemed pretty excited, not overly excited, 324 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: but excited about being in Philadelphia and pitching here. And uh, 325 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's going to be a really 326 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: welcomed arm in this rotation. I'm looking forward to watching 327 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: this guy. And I do think that stress reaction stuff 328 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: is behind him. The fact that he's thrown and started 329 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: throwing a little earlier than he typically does, and he's 330 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: got no doesn't even think about it right now, that's 331 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: all really good sign. 332 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The fact that the doctors, he said, multiple doctors 333 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: told him once it is past him that it's something 334 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: that should not bother him again. I guess again, like 335 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: Jim said, if if that is the truth, and if 336 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: that is the case, and if he stays healthy, Man, 337 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: they have a really good top five. I mean one 338 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: through five rotation. I mean you could say best in baseball, 339 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: maybe the best in baseball. 340 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, best in baseball as far as I'm concerned, deep 341 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: one through five, no question. Actually, I like three really 342 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: really good left handers, man. 343 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, three good lefties, two workhorse rights at the top. 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 4: But I like the point you made about the environment 345 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: coming to Philly, because I mean, pitching in Miami, it's 346 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: a beautiful ballpark. I think they built a beautiful ballpark, 347 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: but I mean it's like pitching in an empty warehouse. 348 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: There's no lot of you know, there's no life. I 349 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: mean there's four thousand people, and you know, coming here, 350 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: it can only electrify you. This environment. Fans bring you 351 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: so much energy, you know, I know, like Harper talks 352 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: about it all the time, Schwarber talks about it all 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: the time. 354 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: But it is real too. 355 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Turner talked about it when he 356 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: wanted to come here. They do give you a left 357 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: So I think that environment pitching in a place where 358 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: every game matters to the fans, every game matters in 359 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: the standings, because you're on a competitive team, not a 360 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: team that's stuck in a perpetual rebuild. All that could 361 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: be if you're a competitor, all that can bring the 362 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: best out of you. 363 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: And he competes, Man. I love the wings on the mount. 364 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: He competes. He puts those glasses on, man, and he's 365 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: ready to fire. 366 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: So I like that. 367 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: That's a cool nickname. Though if if he takes off 368 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: in pitches, you might see some Zeus signs. There's some 369 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: guys up in the upper deck and right field, just 370 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: as a Greek god of. 371 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: Strikeouts, the Greek god of strikeouts and wins. 372 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: So let's finish with this, Ruben. Eagles right now are 373 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 2: coming down the stretch. I want to get your opinion. 374 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: As a former executive, Barkley is real closest sitting the 375 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: NFL record. Now you're play him, he gets hurt. I'm 376 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: going to kill you, Ruben. But if you don't play 377 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: him me and he doesn't break the record, I'm going 378 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: to kill you, Ruben, because you don't have any guts 379 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: to play the guy and go for the record. 380 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: Honestly, I would have asked the player. I asked the 381 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: player directly and say, listen, is something that me is 382 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: meaningful enough to you play you. And if he says, 383 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: I want to play in this game, then I put 384 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: my my five guys up front. I put him in 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the game. I let him make a run at it. 386 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: See how it goes in the first half. If he's 387 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: piling up some some serious mileage, stay with him until 388 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: he breaks it, and then get him out he gets 389 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: and if he knows, if he says, and he may 390 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: very well himself, say listen, we gotta do this, we 391 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: gotta we got We're trying to win a super Bowl here, 392 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I'll do the team thing. I'll be happy to you know, 393 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: sit down for the next this next game, get ready 394 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Then I'm fine with that too. I 395 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: go to the player directly. 396 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: You go to the player, let him make the call. 397 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 4: You would rubin as an executive. But if he gets hurt, 398 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: I hope your resume is polished. I if I'm in, 399 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: like you know, making that decision, I'm hoping he opts 400 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 4: for the for the you know, the the big picture view, 401 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 4: the long game and the team view, and says, you know, 402 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: it's been a long season. I'll take a recovery week 403 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: and set our sights on the super Bowl. But it's 404 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: a tough one. 405 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: It's a really tough question. 406 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: It's a tough one. But I mean, you're here to 407 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: win championships, not rushing titles, and that would be my call, 408 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: would be to opt to to not risk injury, to 409 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: not risk injuries, I think. 410 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: So this is what's interesting about it is we talk 411 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: about get pulling guys out when they have a chance 412 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: to throw a no hitter, and they're like ninety pitches 413 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: or one hundred pitches after seven innings. This is way 414 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: beyond that. Man, this is a record in the history 415 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: that may never be broken again. So this is why 416 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: it's become such a difficult I mean, he puts himself 417 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: in a chance to be in the history but the 418 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: greatest single season running back of all time. And that 419 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: makes it very very difficult as an executive and you know, 420 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: as coach or what have you. So, I mean, it's 421 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: not it's a little different from like pulling the guy 422 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: with a chance to get a no hitter, because there's 423 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: been what I don't know, one hundred and some I 424 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: don't know. 425 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 3: I mean, probably, yeah, a couple you pull a. 426 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: Guy, you pull a guy in a no hitter. Let's 427 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: say you pull a twenty four year old pitcher because 428 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: his pitch count is like at a career high and 429 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: a skyrocketing and you decide to protect him instead of 430 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: going for the no hitter. I mean that's a very 431 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: important decision as well, because you're protecting that young man's 432 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: livelihood for for you know, for years upon years, and 433 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: he could end up making generational wealth, right and if 434 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: he stays healthy. So I think they're both enormously important decisions. 435 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: I think part of this narrative if the Eagles go 436 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: on to win the Super Bowl and Saquon Barkley puts 437 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: his team first and says, you know, I'm going to 438 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 4: take the recovery time, go to sit it out, not 439 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: going to risk injury, and they win the Super Bowl, 440 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: that just adds to his legend. No, he didn't get 441 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: the record, but that just adds to his legend. The 442 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: the unselfish team based decision he made on their way 443 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: to a title. So there's just a lot of elements 444 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: to it. And I wouldn't I wouldn't criticize criticize him 445 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: either way. 446 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I could. 447 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: I could see, you know, as a competitor, you want 448 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: to have your name at the top of that rushing list. 449 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: But I also think, uh, it's it's you're still about 450 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: winning championships and pro sports, and uh. 451 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: I was, I will saying with this one thing that 452 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: knowing how a roseman, I think what the narrative will 453 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: be is just that that they will tell him that 454 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: they do not want him to play, and the narrative 455 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: will be that he is they put it in his 456 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: hands and he has created that legend. And if if 457 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: they do their pr correctly and they know what they're doing, 458 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: I think they're with the Philadelphia Eagles. I believe that's 459 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: how they will handle it. He decided that he wasn't 460 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: going to play, but it will be something that comes 461 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: from upstairs. 462 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: And he had a little foreshadow earlier when he sat 463 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: out like the fourth quarter, he said, you know, spread 464 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: the wealth a little bit, let some other guys eat, 465 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: let some other guys run the ball. They had a 466 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: big victory. So it's fascinating issue. And I hope to 467 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: have a nice deep run in the playoffs because I 468 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: really enjoy I really enjoy the NFL playoffs, and it's 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: even better when the local teams do it. 470 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: It would be fun if the Eagles got to the 471 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: super Bowl. I think the super Bowl this year? Is 472 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: this Sunday before Phillies pitchers and catchers report. Yes, that'd 473 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: be kind of a nice little dovetail into the Philly season. 474 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: Phil Eagles win the Super Bowl and boom two days later. 475 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: Pitchers and catchers report to Clearwater the day of the 476 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: parade or something like that. So that would be that 477 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: would be a lot of fun. 478 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: Go birds good, Yeah. 479 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: Real quick, before we go, before we wrap up twenty 480 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: twenty four, our final show of twenty twenty four. 481 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: This was our one hundred and first episode. 482 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: I believe our hundredth episode was Billy was the Billy 483 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: Wagner Interview. If you have not gone back and listen 484 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: to that, Jim, I know you've gotten some nice feedback 485 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: on it, or or you've you've you re listened to 486 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: it and loved it and you got some feedback. I 487 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: got some nice feedback on it on that interview. 488 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: It was. 489 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. So if you haven't 490 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: listened to Billy Wagner, go back. A lot of great 491 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: stories in there. 492 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: Uh and uh yeah, I just wanted to mention that 493 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: because we dropped that the day after Christmas, so. 494 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, the fingers crossed for Billy too. 495 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Billy hopefully next month will find out that 496 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: he has made the Hall of Fame and he will 497 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: be in Cooperstown next summer, and you know, next summer 498 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: in Cooperstown, New York. 499 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: So that was one hundred and one episodes. 500 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: Huh, this is this is one hundred and one. This 501 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: is one hundred and one. That was the one hundredth episode. 502 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: That was a good, good guy to have. 503 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: It's been awesome out yeah. 504 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you've had some uh, some good guests. I mean, 505 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: Bryce Harper interview was great. You can still find that, uh, 506 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: Burroll Pep Burrow was great, Jason Worth was great, Schwarber 507 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: was great. 508 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Shoreber was great, Charles Barkley, Chase Chase somebody was outstanding. 509 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: Hunt paced, Jeff Frank Corr. 510 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: We had Tyler Phillips on it one in mid season, 511 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: John Smolt Smooky bets. 512 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Wow, we have pressed. 513 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about Charles Barkley. 514 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles Barkley. 515 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Yep. If you guys get a chance, go back and 516 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: listen to some of them, because there's some really good 517 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: uh clips out there. 518 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's some timeless stuff too. 519 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: I feel like it's not just current state of affairs. 520 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: You know what happened in yesterday's game. 521 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: It's a lot of big picture fun stuff and a 522 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of really good stories as well, 523 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: So go back and list those. 524 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: But check out the Billy Wagon one. Guys. We will 525 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: be back. 526 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: This is gonna sound cheesy, but I'll see you next year, 527 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 528 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: I had to see that. 529 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: I'll see you guys in twenty twenty five. We'll be back. 530 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: See you guys, smelling next year, Smelling Jim. 531 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 532 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 533 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcas. If you like us, give 534 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: us a review, Follow us on Instagram, TikTok x, Facebook, 535 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 5: and threads. 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