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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. I'm Hannah Elliott and

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: This is hot pursuit. So today we have a number

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Speaker 2: of topics from F one and MotoGP to new car

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Speaker 2: releases from BMW and hopefully corvettes. And then you're driving

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Speaker 2: an electric car. I think the timing to talk about that,

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Speaker 2: you're driving the Mercedes.

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Speaker 1: Sure, the EQS four hundred suv.

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Speaker 2: I think the timing of that is perfect, and any

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Speaker 2: electric car news right now, like this morning, we've got

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Speaker 2: a story that suber wants to invest I think one

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Speaker 2: and a quarter billion dollars in Rivian to buy ten

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Speaker 2: thousand R twos for autonomous taxis. But I've noticed all

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Speaker 2: of my friends who have evs have been doing victory

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Speaker 2: laps the last couple of weeks. Really yeah, because of

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Speaker 2: the price that's gone up at the pump, Like the

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Speaker 2: national average. By the time this podcast comes out, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to say the national average will be will have

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Speaker 2: eclipsed four dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, and eight dollars at some.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you laughed, because in California it's

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Speaker 2: well over five dollars and fifty cents I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: regular gas, right, most of the cars that we test

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Speaker 2: or drive only except premium fuel. But so I think

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Speaker 2: there could be a resurgence in EV demand if this

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Speaker 2: goes on much longer. And that's why I'm interested to

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Speaker 2: hear about your Mercedes EQS experience.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so we should talk about it, and we should

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Speaker 1: also say on the way to talking about the EQS

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Speaker 1: that are our wonderful colleague, Kyle Stock wrote this piece.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, Matt. It's called

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Speaker 1: Surgeon Gas Prices Reignite ev Interests, and he basically talks

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Speaker 1: about how Michael Prichinello, our friend at Classic Car Club

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Speaker 1: you know, is buying an electric vehicle, which is funny

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Speaker 1: as Mike is such a like a petrol head type

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen this, but my wife has an

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Speaker 2: alert for all new Kyle Stock stories.

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Speaker 1: Oh she does. She's wow.

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Speaker 2: He is her like secret crush, not so secret crush,

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Speaker 2: oh Kyle. And also since she's from Spain, she doesn't

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Speaker 2: know the name Kyle, so she always calls him Kylie Stock.

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Speaker 1: That is really cute. Have they ever actually.

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Speaker 2: Met They've never met, but she follows him on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: She loves all of his content.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kyle is very like wholesome, you know, he's like

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Speaker 1: a very right wholesome American looking, yes, very clean cut,

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Speaker 1: he's a very very healthy, lives in Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Appropriately lives in the mountains of Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Yeah go.

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Speaker 1: You know, has a lab and like two point five

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Speaker 1: kids and like really a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: But he also has like I think he has a

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Speaker 2: jag like x k E.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I think he's At one point he did.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's a pilot. I know his dad

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Speaker 2: was a pilot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he yeah. I guess if like, if that's

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Speaker 1: really your.

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Speaker 2: Thing, he's a rugged American man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Kylie, Kylie. Anyway, so we should we should

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Speaker 1: say people should, listeners should read it, because he did

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Speaker 1: write about it. But back to your point, Matt, which

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Speaker 1: is this bigger point. Yes, I guess this is the right.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny that I thought the administration was sort

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Speaker 1: of like walking back all the EV targets, which is

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Speaker 1: ironic now that their gas prices are higher and now

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Speaker 1: everyone's flocking to EV. But you know what this was, This.

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Speaker 2: Is honestly the way it should be. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're a free market capitalist, and that's what Americans were

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Speaker 2: before this, you know, I mean, before we became socialists

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Speaker 2: versus protectionists. Then you want the market to choose, and

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Speaker 2: right now the market is saying, wow, and EV is

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Speaker 2: a pretty good idea, sure, you know, rather than using

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Speaker 2: my taxpayer dollars to subsidize your Tesla purchase. So but whatever,

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Speaker 2: Leaving the politics aside, I just think it's fascinating that

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a ton of messages. When I

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Speaker 2: board of oil prices, people will write in and say,

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Speaker 2: ha ha, I only pay twenty dollars a month for

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Speaker 2: you know, energy to fuel my EV And meanwhile, you're

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Speaker 2: getting thirteen miles a gallon in your Cadillac Escalade.

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Speaker 1: So well, fair, fair point that Honestly, that is fair.

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Speaker 1: And I should say that this Equs that I'm driving

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I still don't get like the conversions.

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Speaker 2: know that you know, it's going to be much cheaper

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Speaker 2: to fuel your vehicle. But how is the vehicle, because

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Speaker 2: I know it's luxurious inside. The Mercedes vehicles always are,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know haws the performance.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, I do in general think Mercedes

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Speaker 1: makes good cars. Last year, my favorite car I drove

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Speaker 2: I loved it too. That was what the SL sixty three.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is not that car. First of all,

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Speaker 2: It's so weird. I thought evs all had a thousand horsepower.

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Speaker 1: wabble and the wafting and the braking. And yes that

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Speaker 1: I did switch it into comfort, and you can switch

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Speaker 1: little bit better driving. I just it's not the look.

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Speaker 1: You don't buy this car for the drive. You buy

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Speaker 1: it because it gets eighty mpg in the city.

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Speaker 2: But do you because you're paying what, one hundred thousand dollars?

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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, Well, you're very good guess. Total retail

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Speaker 1: good estimate, Matt, I will say Mercedes makes still I

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Speaker 1: think the best infotainment and Soft has the best software

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Speaker 1: And it's a very simple thing. But I love that

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, Yes, it's amazing a lot. It's amazingly elegant,

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Speaker 1: It really is good. And I really like where they're

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Speaker 2: of so many cooler cars you can get. Admittedly, most

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Speaker 2: and I'm closed doors, yes. And the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's your second largest purchase potentially after your house.

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Speaker 2: Totally totally agreed, all right, well, I look forward to

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Speaker 2: your two more experience in this by the way, so BMW.

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Speaker 2: I mean the name. Yeah, I know they stopped making

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Speaker 1: But is that the drivers, because I'm all about like,

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Speaker 2: talk about your F one story.

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Speaker 2: This is Hot Pursuit on Bloomberg. We are back with

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Speaker 2: Hot Pursuit on Bloomberg and I'm Matt Miller. Hannah Elliott's

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Speaker 2: out in LA and Hannah, you wrote a story on

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Speaker 2: F one, which is booming, seems to be booming with

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Speaker 2: The powertrain is so annoying that I can't I already

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know that we shouldn't a great driver

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Speaker 1: whole other thing. Just the fact that we don't know

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Speaker 1: from the star that McLaren's going to be in the

436
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Speaker 1: front I mean, red bulls nowhere now is kind of

437
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: wild to me. This is all interesting. I find it interesting.

438
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: It's not predictable.

439
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you know that's true, and Red Bull

440
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: has a new power train and there are so many

441
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: new entrants. So to me, the exciting thing is that

442
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Ford's involved, GM is involved, Audi is involved. Got to

443
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: talk about it, and like that adds to the Apple

444
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: tvnus of it. Like all of a sudden, I care

445
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Speaker 2: more because brands that I connect with as an American,

446
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, are in it. So totally, yeah.

447
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Speaker 1: I I want it to be interesting. I want there

448
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: to be a massive reshuffle, and there has been. Cadillac

449
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: is sort of down very low there, I think in

450
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Speaker 1: the constructors. Let's let me just make sure. Yeah, they're

451
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Speaker 1: tenth out of eleventh. Acid Martins is last, which is sad,

452
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: but you know, AUTI do you remember.

453
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Speaker 2: When I interviewed Laurence Stroll a few weeks ago and

454
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't know what's going on there.

455
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: He owns the team.

456
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Speaker 1: I know. Oh did we ever play a clip of

457
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Speaker 1: that on the podcast?

458
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: We can play it, we should, maybe we should.

459
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Speaker 3: We don't really go in with expectations. We're going to

460
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: try our best, do the best we can. I'm quite

461
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: confident with the team we've put together and the partners.

462
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: I've just mentioned that we'll do a great job. You know,

463
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: this set of rules is here with us for five years,

464
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: so it's not about the first racer too, it's about

465
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Speaker 3: the next five years. Again, extremely confident. We have the

466
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Speaker 3: right people, we have the right tools, we have the

467
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: right processes, we have the right partners. So I'm very

468
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: confident for extremely confident for our future.

469
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Speaker 2: We have seen reporting that Mercedes and Red Bull have

470
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Speaker 2: found some kind of edge with variable engine compression. It's

471
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Speaker 2: all very technical. Some have accused them of cheating like

472
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Speaker 2: animals I think was a quote I heard. Others have

473
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Speaker 2: defended them. Christian Horner came to their defense. What do

474
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Speaker 2: you think about people looking for an edge in the

475
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Speaker 2: rules ahead of the ahead of the season.

476
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Speaker 3: Listen, you're always looking for an edge in the rules,

477
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: and you're always looking to find loopholes. That's part of

478
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: formula one. I'm not a technical power unit guru to

479
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: really give an opinion on exactly what they've done, but

480
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: I will leave it to those who are in the know. Obviously,

481
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of talk going on between the various

482
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Speaker 3: power unit teams and the FIA to check the legality

483
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Speaker 3: of what they've done.

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Speaker 2: How about your confidence in Adrian Newey. Obviously, everyone's very

485
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Speaker 2: excited to see what he can do with your team,

486
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: and other teams have looked with a little bit of

487
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: wonder in awe at the suspension for example, and he's

488
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Speaker 2: been able to create. What do you think are your

489
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: biggest advantages with him?

490
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Speaker 3: You said it, it's having him. He is the goat.

491
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Speaker 3: He is a unicorn. Nobody has a track record like

492
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Speaker 3: he's had since his time's in Formula One, winning twenty

493
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Speaker 3: five world championships. He is unique. There's one Adrian, and

494
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Speaker 3: I am very blessed that he's my partner and with

495
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Speaker 3: our team.

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Speaker 1: I just think, yes, it's great there are new teams.

497
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm here for it. And going

498
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Speaker 1: back to Audi our previous conversation, I think Audi Audi

499
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: could be really interesting to watch because they not to

500
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Speaker 1: say Cadillac won't be, but Cadillac is starting from pure scratch.

501
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: Audi of course spot sober so.

502
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: They scored points in the first race.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe have a leg up a little bit. I

504
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Speaker 1: just think it's gonna be kind of fascinating and cool.

505
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Speaker 2: The thing I loved in the first couple of races

506
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: was Lynn Blad has shown real promise and he's on

507
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: the Red Bull like junior team. So and he's a.

508
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: Kid, Now why do you like him?

509
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: Just because he's a kid who just turned the board

510
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: over on the first in the first race, And I thought, wow, wow, this.

511
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Guy really anything about him Arvin.

512
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: He's even ahead of his more experienced teammates. So anyway,

513
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Speaker 2: I'll I guess I'll maybe I'll stick with it. I

514
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: am going to go to the race in Oh you're

515
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: going to go to You and me will be there

516
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: at Bloomberg House.

517
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Anyone listening and really try to come and see us.

518
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: If you're in Miami, we will be at the race.

519
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Bloomberg's doing a whole thing.

520
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 2: That's the end of April. But I'll tell you what

521
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: next week. I'm going to Austin on Thursday.

522
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: I heard this. Someone told me, oh, yeah, gp with you.

523
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm going.

524
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: I had lunch.

525
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm going with one of one of my closest friends

526
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: to watch really to watch Dukati and because Mark Marquez

527
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: is my man. After he crushed it last season, they're

528
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: having difficulties this season. Aprilia's bikes are the fastest on track.

529
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: The KTM is doing really well, and they'll be racing

530
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: in Austin, Texas. So Moto GP if you really want

531
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Speaker 2: to watch racing, you know, without a whole bunch of

532
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: silly rules and crazy hybrid power trains that aren't you know,

533
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: sufficient to make it all the way around the track

534
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: at top speed. Watch watch Moto GP.

535
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: Now, why is you said Mark Marquez is having issues

536
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: this season?

537
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ducatti just isn't on top. You know, last year

538
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 2: Dukatti would finish sometimes they would have all of the

539
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: top six spots. No other bike on the grid could

540
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: keep up. And this this year. You know, at the

541
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Speaker 2: end of last year, Prially started making really real headway

542
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: and now they are absolutely crushing it in terms of

543
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: the power and performance of the bike. The KTM, even

544
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: though they're like a bankrupt Austrian motorcycle maker, is doing

545
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: really well. And you know Ducatti is still I mean,

546
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Mark still manages to podium when he when he's up there,

547
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: and there was a little bit of a scandal in

548
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Speaker 2: the first race where he made a pass that was

549
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: I think a normal block pass, the kind of the

550
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: pass that's the reason I watch racing. But they said

551
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: you can't do that anymore. So we'll see if that's

552
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: still allowed. But yeah, Moto GP is is where it's at.

553
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Speaker 1: How many more years of racing do you think Mark

554
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Marquez has.

555
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: That's a good question. He's not forty, and Valet raced

556
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: until he was forty. But I think Mark is definitely

557
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: a better motorcycle pilot, better Moto GP racer than Rossi already.

558
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Really I'm looking at his face and I see online

559
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: he's thirty three.

560
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, his face look a child, so it looks old.

561
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Speaker 2: I think Rossi was like either forty or forty one

562
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: when he retired. He alreright, he wasn't, you know, winning

563
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: anything when he retired anymore.

564
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: But you can have a real career, you can.

565
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Speaker 2: Except for the fact that Mark has broken like every

566
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Speaker 2: bone in his body. I mean he for a long

567
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: time had the fastest crash at two hundred nine or

568
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Speaker 2: two hundred twelve miles per hour. He his arm has

569
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Speaker 2: been so destroyed that he actually had he had it fused,

570
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: but thirty degrees higher so he could ride better. You know,

571
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Speaker 2: He's had injuries like concussions where he sees double for

572
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: multiple days or even a whole week, and his doctors

573
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: have said at any point he could have one accident,

574
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: could mean he's never sees straight for the rest of

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Speaker 2: his life.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I but he's That's how I know motorcycle

577
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: riders are different.

578
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: He's dedicated in cares.

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: So they're brain They've got a few screws that are different.

580
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's take another quick break and come

581
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: back to talk about I heard reports of new motors,

582
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: bigger motors coming out of General Motors, and now we're

583
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: starting to hear rumors of these new motors going into

584
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: a Corvette Grand Sport, which could be a game changer,

585
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: and I want to discuss.

586
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: We must dive in. This is hot pursuit on the urn,

587
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: and we're back.

588
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: We are back.

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: You need to tell me about this Cadillac rumor or sorry,

590
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: this Corvette rumor.

591
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're curing.

592
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of it.

593
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: So there there already were reports. I think roadent Track

594
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: at the end of last year wrote a story that

595
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: General Motors was coming out with two new small blocks

596
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: or a new small block that could come in a

597
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: five point seven Leader and a six point I think

598
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: they said six point six Leader at the time. And

599
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: of course we know that right now the GM V

600
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: eights are a five point three leader and a six

601
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: point two leader, right, it happened for you know that? Yes,

602
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: now I saw, and we're waiting for a Corvette to

603
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: come out with the Grand Sport. They always have, you know,

604
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: like Porsche with the nine to elevens. You know when

605
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: the GTS is coming out, you know when the turbos

606
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: is coming out, you know when the GT three is

607
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: coming out. And Corvette already has put out it's Z six.

608
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: They've already put out the ZL one, they had the

609
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Speaker 2: ZL one X, and so the Grand Sport's supposed to

610
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: come next, which is normally the Z six like body

611
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: and suspension with the regular powertrain from the Stingray, which

612
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: would be the six point two leader. But now Motor

613
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: Trend is saying there is a dealer meeting and dealers

614
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: are leaking the fact that the new Grand Sport is

615
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: going to come out with a new motor, a six

616
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: point seven liter V eight, which obviously makes me happy. Sure,

617
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: and it's going to have the six point seven V eight,

618
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: so a little bit bigger than roadent Track said, I think,

619
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Speaker 2: and we'll have the Z six, you know, paraphernalia and

620
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: wide body kit, the even cooler thing is Corvette has

621
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Speaker 2: the E Ray, which you know, I'm a huge fan

622
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: of it. So it's the Stingray motor, the six point

623
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Speaker 2: two liter V eight with an electric motor on the

624
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: front axle, making a four wheel drive Corvette, which I

625
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: just think is so cool. Yes, And what Motor Trend

626
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: is saying, or what I guess some people from the

627
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: dealership meeting leaked is that not only are they going

628
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: to have a Grand Sport now, but they're gonna have

629
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: a Grand Sport X which will replace the E Ray.

630
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: It'll essentially be, you know, the same thing, the six

631
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Speaker 2: point seven liter V eight in the back and an

632
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: electric motor on the front axle. Yes, exactly, a hybrid

633
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: Grand Sport based Yeah, ooh, what a monster. I'm really excited. Also,

634
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: one of the coolest things about the Eray, which I

635
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: think goes underappreciated, is that it comes standard with carbon

636
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: fiber with carbon ceramic disc brakes.

637
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Now, why does that excite you?

638
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: Because typically that's like a ten thousand dollars option, right,

639
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: and you get it essentially with the package on the Eray.

640
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: I hope it comes through with the Grand Sport X

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: as well, because I kind of feel like that would

642
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: be the one to buy. Now having said that, I

643
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: still haven't driven. I've never driven the Z six. That's

644
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: the one with the flat plane crank and the five

645
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: point five liter V eight that makes like six hundred

646
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: and fifty horse power. Everybody who has says that's the

647
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: one to get, but it's obviously it's also more expensive.

648
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to get into these cars.

649
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: At revs high. Yeah, I would love to drive. I

650
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: actually have driven in the Z six. Mark Royce took

651
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 2: me on a lap of their test track, yes, once,

652
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: but I didn't get to drive the car myself. And

653
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, Mark, could I can I buy

654
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: this car? And he's like, no, there's rules against that.

655
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: So okay, But but I think for me, I thought,

656
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: you know, the E Ray is the one to get.

657
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: Living in the Northeast, I would love to have the

658
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: four wheel drive. You get insane acceleration because of the

659
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: all wheel drive.

660
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: And that's like over seven hundred horse power.

661
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and this I mean, we'll so the new Grand

662
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: Sport with just the six point seven liter V eight

663
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: is rumored to be to make around five hundred and

664
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: fifty horse power, which is fifty and change more than

665
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: the current Sting Ray, and the new Grand Sport X

666
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: is rumored to make also well over seven hundred horse power,

667
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: maybe approaching eight.

668
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: Now, I like what you said about the breaks, because

669
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I do think like the best thing about the Corvette

670
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: is the value. It's so much car for the money,

671
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you get so much, and to be able to have

672
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: those breaks as standard it just sweetens the deal even more.

673
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: It's like all that power, everything we've just discussed for

674
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: do we know what a price point is gonna No,

675
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: we don't hurt anything even remotely.

676
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: No, But I mean so right now, the E Ray

677
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: goes for like one hundred. The Zeo stic is fair

678
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: yealy fair for sure, that's yeah. I mean you can

679
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: get an e Ray for the same price as your

680
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: EQS four hundred.

681
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I know which one I'd take.

682
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: And then the Zeo six I think it goes for

683
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: like one thirty. Now you'll see him higher because there's

684
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: a wait list and people want them right away. But

685
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: I feel like a Grand Sport would would probably go

686
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: for around the a little bit less than the Era price,

687
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: so say ninety five, and Grand Sport X would go

688
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: for more than the Eray, so say like one hundred

689
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: and ten. Right, I'm probably off in either direction on

690
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: both of those, but suffice it to say, you're right.

691
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: It's the value proposition, right. This is a car with

692
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: blistering performance. It's a car that you might choose instead

693
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: of a nine to eleven and pay half the price

694
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: for it.

695
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: Right, And we choose instead of a Mustang.

696
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: And that's yeah, for sure, No, for sure, one hundred percent.

697
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: It's another level. It's it's incomparable. But the thing is,

698
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: like I always cross up in my mind this car

699
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: with a nine to eleven. And while a nine to eleven,

700
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: you could argue is like Jack of all trades does

701
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: everything well, you know, amazing build quality, it does cost

702
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: twice as much and is like pretty ubiquitous in terms

703
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: of you see them everywhere all the time. Right, So

704
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: for less money, you're getting more performance and kind of

705
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: a little bit more rarity. Just I don't see that

706
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: many No eight corvettes.

707
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: And to be honest, you know, I remember thinking I

708
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: would cross shop it against a McLaren and I might

709
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: even you know, there are some similarities to a Ferrari. Yeah,

710
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and I know that might sound wild, But first of all,

711
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the thing when it first came out. You know, the

712
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: first mid engine Corvette was compared to Ferrari. They for

713
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: sure it looks and driving characters.

714
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Even the C seven kind of looked like a Ferrari.

715
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: I totally agree and that I don't think it's crazy

716
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: to say that.

717
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: No, and you have, you know, potentially better build quality

718
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: with the Corvette as well because the Ferrari is Italian

719
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: and also less complexity because Ferrari is now. I mean,

720
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: it's no coincidence that the CEO of Ferrari used to

721
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: run st microelectronics like they're rollings. Yeah, so I think

722
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: I would definitely rather have it than a McLaren because

723
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: a McLaren is way more expensive and they depreciate the

724
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: same as a Corvette. Right, you can find the.

725
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Interiors are superior as well. For me, that's a big deal.

726
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: But but uh, and I think, look, if you're going

727
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: to give me one, maybe I would take a Ferrari

728
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: free versus a Corvette free. But the real world comparison,

729
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: I think still is always going to be a nine

730
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: to eleven and for one hundred. Like if you if

731
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: you want the Z six, right, you're you're revving up

732
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: to eight thousand rpm. You have the scream of the

733
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Ferrari because you have a flat plane crank and you're

734
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: paying one hundred thirty thousand. To get that kind of

735
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: exotic feel out of a Portia, you have to go

736
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: to like a GT three, And for that you're obviously

737
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: you're paying two point fifty, you're waiting a year, and

738
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: you're flipping it after putting three three hundred miles on it, right,

739
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: because that's what GT three drivers do. Yeah, they don't

740
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: drive him and put him on bring a trailer right away.

741
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: I am not convinced the people who are looking and

742
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: thinking about looking at and thinking about Corvettes are the

743
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: same guys looking at and thinking about nine to elevens.

744
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of crossover, although I do

745
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: remember sometime earlier this year I met a gentleman out

746
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: in the world somewhere who told me he was a

747
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: lifelong Corvette owner and he had just bought his first

748
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: Porsche and was loving it and it was a really new, interesting,

749
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: different thing for him. So I know the crossover does happen.

750
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: But was he a retiree wearing jean shorts and white socks?

751
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: You saw that photo? Yeah, Corvette season just around the corner.

752
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that holds me back, to be

753
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: honest with you, from buying a Corvette. That's the reason

754
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's the reason I want a nine to

755
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: nine to seven instead of a C eight, and we're

756
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: talking about like similar prices, because I don't want people

757
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: to think I wear cut off jeorts. Is that an

758
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: emission of total weakness in my character?

759
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it's just honest. I get it.

760
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: I feel like such a loser.

761
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Now it's easier for a woman. You can be more

762
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: fluid with these things, for sure.

763
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: By the way, what's up with your car shopping experience lately?

764
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: I saw you you sent me a Camark the other day.

765
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: I almost want to get one of those myself. Like,

766
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: the only reason I won't buy one of those is

767
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: because I don't want to get in front of you

768
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: on the Camark driver.

769
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Get it, please get it? Help me, help me, help you.

770
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: So last last I saw Magnus sent me this link

771
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: to a Camark at Beverly Hills Car Club.

772
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: And which is not, by the way, an exclusive driving club, and.

773
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: It's not in Beverly Hills. So take everything with the

774
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: grain of salt. It's uh. In fact, I'm I expect

775
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: that we may have Alex Manos, the owner of Beverly

776
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Hills Car Club, on the show, so it'll be great

777
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: to talk to him about it. Basically, it's a car

778
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: dealership shop, yeah, dealership that's the word, with hundreds of

779
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: cars and it's a little like caveat Indoor. I wouldn't

780
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: say this is a place for total newbies to buy

781
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: their first ever vintage car. This is a place where

782
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: kind of what you see is what you get and

783
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: anyway as is, Yes, Mars, it's very very as is,

784
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: but they have a ton.

785
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Of they have the best cars. Like I'm not saying

786
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: they're in the best shape, but they have like so

787
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: many Porschos.

788
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: We bought cars from them, so yeah, we bought cars

789
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: from the Magne sind This link for a nineteen seventy

790
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: eight rolls Risk Camarg listed at thirty seven to five,

791
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: which is a very very good price for a Camark.

792
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: But as I dug into the description, it's a little

793
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: too ropey even for us. It's going to need Even

794
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: in the description, it says that it's going to require

795
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: cosmetic and mechanical attention before regular road use, which is

796
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: as much of a disclaimed claimer as you'll ever get.

797
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: So that means it's really like, may not even go

798
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: around the block and all that to say, am I

799
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: looking at it? Yes? Am I gonna go look at it?

800
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: Maybe it costs nothing to go kick a tire?

801
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: Right?

802
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: No? True? And also, I mean a lot of times

803
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a good deal on a car that's

804
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: in that kind of shape. Because if you're somebody who say,

805
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: you know, your uncle passed away and now you have

806
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: his Camarde, which you know sat in the garage for

807
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: the last twenty.

808
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Five years, writing about that this week?

809
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you wanna do you want to make

810
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: all of the upgrades? Do you wanna do you want

811
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: to fix make all the repairs and then try and

812
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: sell it, or do you just want to get rid

813
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: of it quick?

814
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Just offload it.

815
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: And then you have Can you know a lot about

816
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: these cars? You know a lot of people in the community,

817
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: you know Charlie. Yeah, And so you say, hey, Charlie,

818
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: how much is it going to cost to get this

819
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: thing in running order? He says, I think I can

820
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: do it for fifteen And so you see it for

821
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: thirty seven and now you have a fifty two thousand

822
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: dollars Camard.

823
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's right in the market, you know,

824
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: somewhere around fifty to seventy, Like the best one in

825
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: the world will cost seventy, and a running driving one

826
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: might be around it.

827
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: But a lot of times you're better off, like you know, yes,

828
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: if so, if I find like a nine to nine

829
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: to seven dot one, that's you know, looks great, but

830
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: I know it has bor scoring, maybe I'm better off

831
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: getting it for cheap, taking it to demand or whatever

832
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: it's called, and having them you know, bore out the motor,

833
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: put in the nikosil sleeves, and now I have not

834
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: only gotten a deal, or maybe I get it from

835
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: market price, but I had the peace of mind that

836
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: I know, now this motor is bulletproof.

837
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: You know.

838
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I think it's you kind of as

839
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: long as you know what you're dealing with. Like as

840
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: long as I always hear people say when they're buying

841
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: a car, what does this car need? Because assuming that

842
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: a car doesn't need anything, I think might be folly.

843
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: I think the question is tell me honestly now and

844
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt, But what is

845
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: the car go? Does the car need now? And then

846
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: at least you know what you're dealing with, because no

847
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: car is going to need nothing.

848
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: Really.

849
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I hope we have what's his name,

850
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Alex Manos. Yeah, I hope we get him on because

851
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: I've been looking at his products for years and I

852
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: always thought it was like the West Coast version of

853
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: the Classic Car Club. But now that I know what

854
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: it is, I actually feel like I'm in a better position.

855
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: It's something different and wonderful, it really is. It's a

856
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: great thing, that is. I used that Car Club too,

857
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: as when I was thinking of when I really kind

858
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: of wanted a Corvette, but I hadn't really been around

859
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: them a lot. I would go there just to look

860
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: at them, just to sit in them, just to try

861
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: to be exposed to them and learn about them a

862
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit. And that is really really valuable, because otherwise,

863
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: how are you going to explore a new model without

864
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: some exposure somehow? And I didn't know anyone who owned one,

865
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: so it's it is really useful just to go over

866
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: and spend time.

867
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's all we got for this week.

868
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: I am not actually I'm I know, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: drive the Cadillac. Now I'm going to drive the Cadillac

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Speaker 2: what is it? The Lyric v okay next week back

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Speaker 2: to Lyrics starting today. Yes, and Cadillac even gave me

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Speaker 2: a hat. I'm allowed to accept gifts undred fifty dollars

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Speaker 2: in value, so I'm pretty excited about that because I've

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Speaker 2: driven this sort of underpowered version. I've driven the EQUS

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Speaker 2: four hundred version of this car in the past, but

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to drive the V version. I've never

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Speaker 2: driven an electric V car, so I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 2: driving that.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it. And then when are you?

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Speaker 1: When are you going to Texas? Thursday?

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, Thursday, I'm flying down to Texas. Cool,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to a Ducati event. I'm gonna

883
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Speaker 2: spend basically five days trying to hang out with Mark Marquez.

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Speaker 1: I hope that goes well. I can't wait to.

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Speaker 2: See the fir And then, as always when I go

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Speaker 2: to a race in person, what I'm gonna do is

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy the atmosphere. I'm going to try and

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Speaker 2: get into the paddock. I'm gonna probably buy like a

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Speaker 2: T shirt or whatever. And when the race actually starts,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna find a quiet room where I can sit

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Speaker 2: down in front of a television and watch it, because

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Speaker 2: it's always better to watch on TV than it is

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Speaker 2: at the track.

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Speaker 1: Every media reporter who covers Formula one watches the race

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Speaker 1: from TV inside the media room.

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Speaker 2: So does everybody in the garage, like the mechanics, it's

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Speaker 2: the team owner. They all do it like that. So

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Speaker 2: I know, what about you? What do you do you

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Speaker 2: have any you have more time with the EQS four hundred?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have any new cars coming? Any trips?

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Speaker 1: Well, this weekend we're gonna go look at a car.

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Speaker 1: And I can't tell you what it is. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you offline. It's not the Camar. It's something that will

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Speaker 1: be surprising. But we're going tomorrow Saturday, at seven thirty

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Speaker 1: in the morning to go look at this thing that

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Speaker 1: like fell into our lapse. Ye. Well, well, I'll keep

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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: you posted. I really can't say anything, but it's a surprise.

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00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: Let's see. Trips. No, I might try to take like

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00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: three days off and drive to Carmel like in a

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: week or two. That's my goal. Yeah, just try to

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Speaker 1: get away, stay in a tiny, little Airbnb on Ocean,

913
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Speaker 1: drive in Carmel, go to the beach, take the dog.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm see.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 2: The the best thing is when you have time off

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Speaker 2: and a car that you want to drive and no plans. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a couple of years back, I had uh, I had

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00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: my Raptor, I had my dog, a new shotgun, and

920
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: two weeks so I drove down to North Carolina to

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Speaker 2: Ashville and then I drove over to Tennessee Tail of

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Speaker 2: the Dragon. I you know, I just would camp out.

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Speaker 2: I had a tent. I would just camp out wherever

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Speaker 2: I sort of landed for the night and find like

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Speaker 2: I'd go skeet shooting and driving roads. And it was

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Speaker 2: an amazing two weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's really really cool. I think that were.

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Speaker 2: You alone, Yeah, just me and Steve it.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, more people need to do that. More people need

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Speaker 1: to have us like a moment of solitude.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean with Carmel, Magnus will come too. But in general,

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Speaker 1: I love that you did that. That is great.

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Speaker 2: I got to drive on all those you know whatever

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Speaker 2: it's called the Blue Sky Parkway Tail of the Dragon.

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Speaker 1: I've never been. I've heard the really.

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00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: Amazing Yeah, just amazing.

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942
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943
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