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Speaker 1: I just announced all my tour dates. They just went

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Speaker 1: on sale. It's called the Heighth and Mighty Tour. I

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Speaker 1: will be starting debuting my new material in February of

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Speaker 1: next year, so I'm coming to Washington, d c Norfolk, Virginia, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus,

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Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: of Course, Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Masa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: port Chester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.

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Speaker 1: I will be touring from February through June. Those are

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Speaker 1: the cities that I'm in. Pre sales started last week,

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Speaker 1: so tickets are flying. I haven't added second shows yet,

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Speaker 1: but we probably will be to some of these. So

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Speaker 1: go get your tickets now if you want good seats

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Speaker 1: and you want to come see me perform. I will

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Speaker 1: be on the High and Mighty tour. Oh what a

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Speaker 1: good little beefer you are.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Madelaine, it's nice to meet you. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Madeleine has some projects coming out, you guys. The Strangers

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Speaker 1: Chapter two, which is a horror movie, hits theater September

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Speaker 1: twenty six, and then she has a rom com called

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Speaker 1: Maintenance Required, which hits Amazon on October eighth. They are

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Speaker 1: both now out. So I read that you grew up

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Speaker 1: in South Africa and Washington State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's term such an African so we

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Speaker 3: would go back, but I was primarily in Washington. It's

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Speaker 3: really interesting how interviews can skew the reality of my

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Speaker 3: life so much.

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Speaker 1: So basically all interviews get skewed, and then they like

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Speaker 1: I don't I talk about being child free, and people

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Speaker 1: are like.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler hates children.

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Speaker 1: Talk about not wanting like I talk about not wanting

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Speaker 1: to be married, and be like Chelsea Handler hates men,

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Speaker 1: which is closer to the truth than hating children. But

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Speaker 1: I don't hate anyone. I don't have the energy to hate.

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Speaker 2: But I hear you what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: So you probably were interviewed several times and told them

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Speaker 1: like she commuted on the concord, the one that goes

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Speaker 1: straight from Joannasburg seventies Johannasburg to Olympia, Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually no, I'd go back. I would go back

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Speaker 3: in the summer and in the winter, so twice a

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Speaker 3: year we'd go back and see my whole family, because

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Speaker 3: my entire extended family is there. But I would see

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Speaker 3: the primary part of my life and the formative years

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Speaker 2: Okay, cute I had.

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Speaker 1: I dated a South African once and then he bought

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Speaker 1: me this very fancy pair. This was like when I

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Speaker 1: was in my twenties and I was waitressing and he

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Speaker 2: And then I realized, oh, it's time to break up.

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Speaker 4: Was it a blood diamond?

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Speaker 2: It was because it was a blood.

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Speaker 3: Diamond, that was why it was.

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Speaker 2: It was just obvious that he and I were on

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Speaker 2: different pages. If he were buying me jewelry, do you

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Speaker 3: I would never say no the jewelry, though, I like,

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Speaker 1: I would because you know what, Madeline, we can both

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Speaker 1: buy ourselves jewelry, So why who cares? You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I like to focus on. What

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Speaker 4: A man is picking is like probably not what you'd

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Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest cultural differences are between say,

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Speaker 3: That's such an interesting question. I think probably.

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Speaker 2: Manners great fucking answer.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say that, but people are a lot

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Speaker 1: I feel like people are a lot more polite in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Cape Town? Are you from Cape Town?

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Speaker 1: I had a safari guide from Durban? So have you've

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Speaker 3: I certainly have Kruger National Park you know it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love safaris. That's my dream vacation, minus the snakes.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have any. I've never had a bad experience

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Speaker 1: I've never had like a snake attack me, but I

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Speaker 2: It's not it's more than a fear.

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Speaker 1: It's a phobia, like I will freak out and I

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Speaker 2: Were on safari, which situation.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a cobra, it's a oh, it was like

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Speaker 1: They're like nothing and we were in the jeep luckily,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I want to go on a safari

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Speaker 2: I I do.

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Speaker 1: I do have bad luck, although I haven't had one

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Speaker 1: chase me. Knock on wood. Let's not even talk about

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Speaker 1: such things. Okay, So tell me about your two projects.

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Speaker 1: They're very opposite. One's a horror movie, one's a romantic comedy.

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Speaker 3: Two, Pence, I think I love them both. You can't

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Speaker 3: take between your children. The Strangers chapter two is like,

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Speaker 3: it's it's honestly my baby, because I shot all three

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Speaker 3: I've been editing them. By the way, I love Slovakia.

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Speaker 2: What's going on in Slovakia.

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Speaker 3: I was terrified to go because I just didn't know

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Speaker 3: But I fell in love with Bronislava. I would go

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Speaker 2: Where is Slovakia geographically.

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Speaker 3: Well, it used to be Czechoslovakia, so it's right next

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Speaker 2: Oh, so that's not that far away. It's just eastern Europe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one says the Czech Republic is gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: That's where Prague is, And so Slovakia is a newer

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Speaker 2: What's the vibe there? Is it a big city where

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Speaker 3: We were shooting out in the middle of nowhere. It

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Speaker 1: Right right, It sounds actually like a place Slovakia sounds

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Speaker 4: So when you're like crawling into the freezer beds in

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Speaker 4: They just told you they did and you're like crawling

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Speaker 3: Well, it started at a young age. I was forced

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Speaker 1: Honestly, that's a good point though, because you can make

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Speaker 1: you could make it a very nuanced horror. So that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were you a horror person?

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Speaker 1: I don't typically love horror movies. I don't like to

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Speaker 1: also I don't like violence, but horror is a different

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Speaker 1: category to violence. I think horror is like you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be scared, Like, I don't love that feeling.

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Speaker 2: It's not my favorite genre, but I respect it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to do. I mean, it's I always say,

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Speaker 4: Would you do a horror movie again, having like gone

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Speaker 3: I definitely would never shoot three movies at once.

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Speaker 1: in here, and that's how I feel. I wanted a

440
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Speaker 1: chow too. That's the only kind of dog I get,

441
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Speaker 1: or chow chows. You rescue animals too, I do. Yeah,

442
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Speaker 1: how many do you have?

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Speaker 3: I have one little girl, Olive right, Olive.

444
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen a couple of pictures. It's very cute.

445
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Speaker 3: I have her little teeth tattooed on my arm.

446
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Speaker 4: And you have at with your like something your mom says, too, right,

447
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Speaker 4: my darling.

448
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Speaker 3: I do. I have bruises there from pole dancing, but

449
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Speaker 3: here it is.

450
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Speaker 2: Are you pull dancing on the regular?

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I did it for a movie that I just

452
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Speaker 3: wrapped like four or five days ago.

453
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Speaker 2: How was it to learn pole dancing?

454
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I am anemic, so I bruised a lot.

455
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Speaker 3: But outside of that, it's so much fun. I'm gonna

456
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Speaker 3: keep doing it out of the movie.

457
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Speaker 2: And it's a good exercise.

458
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Speaker 3: People say, beyond it's it's really fucking hard. I had

459
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Speaker 3: no idea how much arm strength you need. In my head,

460
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Speaker 3: it makes sense to need life strength, but it's mostly

461
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Speaker 3: your arms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like as women that's something we have

463
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Speaker 4: to like work on to have the upper body strength.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever go to Jumbo's clown room and just

465
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Speaker 4: like see the feets of strength?

466
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

467
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Speaker 4: I love my favorite. It's my favorite. We used to

468
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Speaker 4: live on the same block as that actually, so we

469
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Speaker 4: went hevery what a for you? And my husband never

470
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Speaker 4: wanted to go. I was just like, I want to

471
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Speaker 4: go and like cheer for women in bikinis doing feats

472
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Speaker 4: of strength, like it's so.

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Speaker 3: Fun incredible when they're hanging upside down and you're like, hey,

474
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Speaker 3: this is crazy. Yeah, how are you even up there?

475
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Speaker 2: So Madeleine, you love what you do.

476
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Speaker 1: You can tell that you love what you do, right,

477
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Speaker 1: you feel very pad like you feel you must feel

478
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Speaker 1: very grateful to have such a successful career at such

479
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Speaker 1: a young age, Right I do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really. I think there's nothing else in the

481
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Speaker 3: world to be happy to do.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how you get into this business is

483
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 1: when everything else just seems on reason. Like I tried

484
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Speaker 1: to be a temp and they were like, you're fired.

485
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Speaker 1: I fig I got fired from every single job I

486
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Speaker 1: every day. And my sister's like, that's because you can't

487
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Speaker 1: do anything.

488
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Speaker 2: But be in this business.

489
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Speaker 1: Like you're you're a comedian, you're a voice, Like you

490
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Speaker 1: want to talk, and that's really all I want to

491
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Speaker 1: do is talk. Luckily, I've made a career out of talking,

492
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Speaker 1: and I never realized that until I was writing my

493
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Speaker 1: last book, and I was like, oh my god, how

494
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Speaker 1: lucky are we to get to do the thing that

495
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Speaker 1: we want to do? And also, you make such a

496
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Speaker 1: good living doing what you want to do. I used

497
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Speaker 1: to remember watching baseball players like get traded and I'd

498
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Speaker 1: be like so upset at their disloyalty to their original team, like.

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Speaker 2: How could you trade?

500
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Speaker 1: How could you go to the from the Boston Red

501
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Sox to the Yankees, Like doesn't any loyalty matter? And

502
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're already making crazy money doing the thing you.

503
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Speaker 2: Love to do the most.

504
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: Like some people have to work at a job they

505
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Speaker 1: fucking hate their whole life and they don't get to

506
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Speaker 1: make Like those people deserve to make the big money,

507
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Speaker 1: and the people who get to do what they love

508
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Speaker 1: should just be able to get by.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to give away, you know,

511
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Speaker 1: my good blessings, but that's it doesn't it's all upside down.

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Speaker 3: And just kind of interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. So we're going to take a break

514
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Speaker 2: and we'll be right back with Madeline Pitch and we're

515
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Speaker 2: back with Madelane. Okay, so when do you got Catherine.

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Speaker 4: We've got some advice questions.

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Speaker 1: People call on for advice and then we give it

518
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Speaker 1: to them. You seem very mature that you're going to

519
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Speaker 1: be good at this. You've bid to therapy or all decks.

520
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Speaker 1: All of our ducks are in a row lack, and

521
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Speaker 1: like feel.

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Speaker 4: Free to pull from experiences like friends have had, and

523
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 4: you know, things just that you've learned in the world.

524
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Speaker 4: It doesn't all have to be from your own experience.

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Speaker 4: So our first question is about dating a bad Texter.

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Speaker 4: So our first question comes from Jack. This one's just

527
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Speaker 4: an email. He says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a twenty six

528
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Speaker 4: year old gay man, single and dating in NYC. About

529
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Speaker 4: a month ago, I went on a hinge date and

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Speaker 4: we really hit it off. He seemed to check a

531
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Speaker 4: lot of the boxes since then, and we've gone on

532
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Speaker 4: about five dates. Every time we get together, the conversation

533
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Speaker 4: is endless and he seems very into me. We have

534
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Speaker 4: great sexual chemistry as well, and every time we part

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Speaker 4: weighs we try to set another date. It's been a

536
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Speaker 4: while since I've gone this long talking to someone. Well,

537
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Speaker 4: everything is going well. The butt here is that the

538
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Speaker 4: man is an awful texter. During the week text can

539
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Speaker 4: be pretty sporadic, and sometimes during weekends I'll go a

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Speaker 4: few days without hearing from him. When I lightly joke

541
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Speaker 4: about it, he says, sorry, I'm a bad text and

542
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Speaker 4: have been super busy. I personally can be a bad

543
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Speaker 4: text for myself and also do not like to look

544
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Speaker 4: at my phone too much if I'm with other people

545
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Speaker 4: and having a good time. But I'm excited about this

546
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Speaker 4: prospect and would like for it to keep moving forward.

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Speaker 4: I worry that not talking with this guy more often

548
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Speaker 4: might cause this to fall through the cracks. I feel

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Speaker 4: like I'm walking a fine line of not trying to

550
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Speaker 4: seem too available or too invested since it's only been

551
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Speaker 4: about a month. But I also don't want him to

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Speaker 4: think I don't care, because, like I said, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to keep this moving in a positive direction.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts, Jack, I think some people just really are

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Speaker 1: bad at texting, Like I was on this guy's I

556
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Speaker 1: was vacationing at this guy's house, and I sent him

557
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Speaker 1: this beautiful text, like, well, I thought it was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I was like, thank you so much. Your house is

559
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Speaker 1: so beautiful, your staff is so beautiful, like just going

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Speaker 1: on and on like a normal thank you, you know,

561
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Speaker 1: And it was almost two paragraphs long, and he wrote

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Speaker 1: back welcome, and I'm like god, I'm like, what did

563
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Speaker 1: I do? Like maybe hates me? And then like two

564
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Speaker 1: weeks later he invited me to something else. Some people

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Speaker 1: just don't communicate like that. I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: do about that. What do you think, Madeline?

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Speaker 3: I actually think it's a green flag off someone's bad

568
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Speaker 3: at texting. Ooh okay, I'm about a hot take. I

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Speaker 3: like the idea of somebody not being so obsessed with

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Speaker 3: their phone.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I had this like spiritual awakening recently where it's like

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Speaker 3: this is not communication, Like nothing about this is connection

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Speaker 3: and communication. Like as long as you're in person, you've

575
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Speaker 3: got a good thing going and you feel like somebody

576
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Speaker 3: is trustworthy and you can tell them how you feel,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of all that matters. And if it falls

578
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Speaker 3: through the cracks because you guys aren't texting enough, then

579
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Speaker 3: that's just not your person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also don't think you should let it fall

581
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Speaker 1: through the like you shouldn't have the mindset that it's

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Speaker 1: going to fall through the cracks because of his because

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Speaker 1: of his lack of interest in texting. While it annoys you,

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Speaker 1: it is, like she just said, there are good points too,

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Speaker 1: like not having somebody addicted to their phone and not

586
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Speaker 1: having someone And some people also don't feel confident in

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Speaker 1: their texting abilities, right, Like I see that with some people,

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Speaker 1: like they don't know, you know, things get lost in translation.

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Speaker 1: And I do think our phones have hijacked our lives,

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Speaker 1: as you know, as we are learning and have learned

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Speaker 1: for the last ten years. So that's not a deal

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Speaker 1: breaker in my opinion. I think you should just like

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Speaker 1: work around that and reset your expectations about what you

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Speaker 1: want from the relationship. It doesn't really texting doesn't keep

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Speaker 1: a relationship alive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, some people have a different vibe when

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Speaker 4: they're texting than in person. Like I know one of

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Speaker 4: my girlfriends she is now married to this woman, but

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Speaker 4: her now wife was like, yeah when we first were texting,

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Speaker 4: Like she was oddly formal with texting, which is sort

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Speaker 4: of a language like, she and I use where it

602
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Speaker 4: was like to be a little funny. We use very

603
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Speaker 4: formal language and texting, and she was like I thought

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Speaker 4: she was gonna be kind of weird, and then like

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Speaker 4: obviously they hit it often. You know are in love

606
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Speaker 4: and married now. But I do have one more question

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Speaker 4: for you about this. So I've heard that amongst people

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Speaker 4: your age, there is a phenomenon of guys, especially using

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Speaker 4: chat GPT to like craft their text responses. Have you

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Speaker 4: or any friends experienced this?

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Speaker 3: My best friend she's a chat to be for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so actually like input texts and be like

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Speaker 3: what does this mean? How should I respond? It's really

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Speaker 3: interesting to watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We'll tell your friend every time she uses chat GPT,

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Speaker 1: she's killing about ten water buffalo because every time we

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Speaker 1: use chat Gypt it is like you have to go

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Speaker 1: to it goes to a lithium farm. They have these

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Speaker 1: huge battery operated farms that are providing all the energy

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Speaker 1: resources that we need. So it's terrible for the environment,

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Speaker 1: which is something they never fucking talk about. As soon

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Speaker 1: as I heard that, I'm like, oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 1: not ever going to use it.

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Speaker 3: But probably never heard that.

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Speaker 1: I'll chat GPT how bad using chat GPT was for

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Speaker 1: the environment, and it gave me a comprehensive response about

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Speaker 1: why it is so bad. But ay, I on another

629
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Speaker 1: note about talking about guys who would make up like

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Speaker 1: text or consult chat for like how to talk to

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Speaker 1: a woman, talking about in cells, like I was at

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Speaker 1: this thing the other night and this guy was telling me.

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Speaker 1: I was at the dinner and this guy was telling

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Speaker 1: me that he's in the tech world.

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Speaker 2: He's in AI.

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Speaker 1: He's one of these investors in one of these AI groups,

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Speaker 1: and he was delineating all the you know, the differences

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Speaker 1: between all of the AI platforms like GROC and chat,

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Speaker 1: and so he was saying that, you know, it's only

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Speaker 1: a matter of like a month or two before we're

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Speaker 1: going to have our own robots that are going to

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Speaker 1: be available to like you know, the first wave of robots,

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Speaker 1: and that men are going to be able to customize.

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Speaker 1: Did I already tell you this or that men aren't

645
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Speaker 1: going to be able to as will women be able

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Speaker 1: to customize the type of person they want as like

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Speaker 1: a lover or an assistant. Like I could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I want some I want someone with red hair, and

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Speaker 1: I want somebody who doesn't talk back, And I want

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Speaker 1: somebody who's really good at making Mexican food, and I

651
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Speaker 1: also want somebody who's going to also be really good

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Speaker 1: with the dogs. Like you can basically customize your person.

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Speaker 1: They can have a working vagina so you can have

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Speaker 1: sex with your robot. And I was like, okay, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: as a person, I go, that's something he goes, every

656
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Speaker 1: guy is going to want to do that. Who doesn't, like,

657
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Speaker 1: really know how to operate with women like that doesn't

658
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but does human connection not count

659
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: for anything anymore? And he said, no, it does, but

660
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: only to the people that it matters to, because there's

661
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: so many in cell types of people now in the

662
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: world that don't have any communication because all they do is,

663
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, stay on their phone or communicate via their phone.

664
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I could design a robot

665
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: that's really good at skiing for the winter, that makes

666
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: me drinks when I'm done with skiing, that stretches me

667
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: in the morning so I can getting ready for my

668
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: skiing and then makes me dinner and then has sex

669
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: with me. And he can look like whatever I want

670
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: and come and appear as.

671
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: A real man.

672
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, that's not going to be the

673
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: first wave, like you are going to be dealing with

674
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: a robot, but eventually you will be able to create

675
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: a person who has all the qualities you want.

676
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: And I thought, that is so fucking crazy.

677
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: It's so fucking crazy. I mean, I did see someone

678
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 4: on the street in West Hollywood yesterday with a robot dog,

679
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: So I mean, it's happening. It's already happened.

680
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: It is happening.

681
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: And they keep there's a movie companion everybody here needs

682
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: to watch clearly, And.

683
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: What was the movie with Scarlett Johansson? What was that

684
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: for her? Yeah, that's it too.

685
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: It's literally what you're talking about.

686
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we've basically made movies to give everybody

687
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: ideas about how to make this a reality. Like everything

688
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: we're turning into the terminator because we Yeah.

689
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: Well I read an article about this recently too. Apparently

690
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: a lot of like teens, like young teens, like their

691
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: first romantic relationships are with AI, Like they're like giving

692
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: it a name and it's their boyfriend and they like

693
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: check in after school. I mean, I'm so it's dark.

694
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm so I just hope that I'm dead before all

695
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: of this is. It takes charge. I can't have months.

696
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: I can't take any more changes. I can't take this technology.

697
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: It's too much. Maybe AI can finish my house.

698
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

699
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: There, well, Alyssa writes in with a question that hopefully

700
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: you both will be able to help with. She says,

701
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea, I love the podcast and I look forward

702
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: to listening every week. I'm a longtime listener, but I've

703
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: never written in before, mostly because I always knew what

704
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: you would say and figured I should just get my

705
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: shit together. But this time I'm truly stuck. I've had

706
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: my dog since April of twenty twenty, and he was

707
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 4: my COVID baby. I was home with him twenty four

708
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: to seven for a year before going back into the office,

709
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: and ever since I got him, he's truly saved me

710
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: from the darkest moments in my life. I got him

711
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: just a couple months before I ended a ten year

712
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: toxic relationship with my high school sweetheart. He helped me

713
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: rediscover life for myself, got me out of bed on

714
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: my worst days, and reminded me that life is fun

715
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: and silly and joyful.

716
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Because he all the responsibilities of a dog by the

717
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: way exactly.

718
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: He is my soul dog, and I don't know where

719
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: I'd be without him. As many dog owners are, I'm

720
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: obsessed with my baby. From April twenty twenty to March

721
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, he got to do everything with me.

722
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: We ran errands together, took drives, he slept with me.

723
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: He basically stayed by my hip at all times. Then

724
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: I met my now boyfriend, who is wonderful in so

725
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: many ways. We have so much in common and he

726
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: makes me laugh like no one else can. We have

727
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: such a good relationship, but he is isn't the biggest

728
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: fan of my dog or dogs in general, and some

729
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: days it makes me wonder if this is what I want?

730
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: Does that sound crazy? Am I choosing my dog over him?

731
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: When I say he isn't the biggest fan. Let me

732
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: be clear. He takes care of him, helps walk him

733
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: and feed him. He plays with him. But when I

734
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: met him, he asked if we could sleep without my dog.

735
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: I reluctantly agreed. But over time and now that he's

736
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: moved in, it has grown to my dog not being

737
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: in the bedroom often at all. I have a one

738
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: bedroom apartment, so there isn't anywhere to be other than

739
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: the living room or the bedroom when we're watching TV

740
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: before bed, or just hanging out or whatever he asks

741
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: for dog free time. It's gone from my dog having

742
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: my company twenty four to seven to about an hour

743
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: in the morning and an hour at night on weekends,

744
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: it's a bit more. I can tell my dog is

745
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: upset by this. He sits outside of the bedroom door

746
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 4: sometimes when I open the door, he's just waiting for me.

747
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: Oh.

748
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: It breaks my heart because I love my dog more

749
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: than anything in life. I tried to talk to my

750
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: boyfriend about it before, and he told me that I

751
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: can spend time with my dog whenever I want to,

752
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: But it still sucks. As I'm writing this now, I

753
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: ask my boyfriend and if he could spend some time

754
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: with us in the bedroom as we watch TV, and

755
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: my boyfriend went out to hang out in his car

756
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: alone so I could be in bed with my dog.

757
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: He reassured me that nothing was wrong, but it hurts

758
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: me so much because I love them both and want

759
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: nothing more than to spend time together. For us all

760
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: to spend time together.

761
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: Melissa Alyssa let that man go.

762
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: The fuck he's in his car to avoid being around

763
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: your dog that.

764
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: Is fucked up.

765
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he also went to smoke a split, so that's why.

766
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Thank god, thank god he had something to do with

767
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: the car.

768
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't I think, first of all, listen,

769
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: you can't your dog is innocent and defenseless, Like, it's

770
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: so unfair to be around something like that, Like it's

771
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: like being a bait with a baby and then abandoning

772
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: a baby. And I for everyone who's listening who doesn't

773
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: love dogs, I understand that dogs aren't the same as children,

774
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: but they're defenseless and innocent in the same way that

775
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: children are. And so to take away to like to

776
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: basically it's like punitive, like this guy setting the tone

777
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: for how much time you spend with your dog that

778
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: was pre existing. That was a pre existing relationship that

779
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: your boyfriend is now disrupting that in and of itself

780
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: is unacceptable in my opinion, Madeline, I feel like you

781
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: want to say something.

782
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: Look, I feel like if he was allergic and there

783
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: was an actual issue, then like there's something to be

784
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 3: discussed there, Like there's an actual bodily reason why I

785
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: don't trust people who don't like dog. I know there's

786
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: something like innately unless he was attacked by a dog

787
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: at one point, maybe there someone to discuss in therapy there,

788
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: Like I want to give him the benefit of the doubt,

789
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, like, that's your baby.

790
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: Get the guy out of there, Like who meets the

791
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: guy seriously?

792
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: And why can't the dog sleep on the floor in

793
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: the bedroom? Is that in a little dog bad?

794
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: We're on your side.

795
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've tried that before, and honestly, more so than

796
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: him being in the room, I think the he asked

797
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: for it initially because I snore really loud and my

798
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: dog is a French bulldog, so he snores even louder,

799
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: and he just like can't take both snoring at the.

800
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Stat then he should sleep on the floor outside in

801
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the living room, you and your dog and snore together

802
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: in your bed like a couple, like the couple that

803
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: you are.

804
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.

805
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: And you know what's hypocritical too, is that like, for example,

806
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: I went on vacation a couple of months ago, he

807
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: watched him for me and he supped in the bedroom

808
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: with him every night. So it's not like he has

809
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 5: a problem with him. It's just that he constantly asks

810
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: for a dog free time, and I don't want to

811
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: be away from him like ever.

812
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: I want to be around with that.

813
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: All that's weird though, Like I did, I know, I

814
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: did a guy that wasn't a dog guy like I

815
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: could just tell. And I find that suspicious as well.

816
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I find that to be suspicious. It's like if you

817
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: don't like dogs, like something's off. But I kind of

818
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: gave him a pass and he tried. He made the

819
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: effort with my dog. He would take my dog for walks,

820
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: like he actually made the effort. I'm like, well, that's

821
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: all he can do. I can't make somebody fall in

822
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: love with your dog, just like you can't make somebody

823
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: love your child like that you had you know before

824
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: you met them. So but I do think it's very

825
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: strange to ask for dog free times. That's like some

826
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: sort of controlling or weird issue. Something is off.

827
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 3: With that, especially if he's sleeping in bed with your

828
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: dog when you're not there. That feels more like a

829
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: control piece, like he doesn't want any other attention taken

830
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: away from him.

831
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 5: Yes, right, And it really is, honestly, mostly just on

832
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: the weekdays. On the weekends, this isn't a problem, Like

833
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: I don't even he doesn't most of your days, right.

834
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: I think he asked for a boundary. You tried that

835
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: boundary out, and it's time to readjust the boundary, like

836
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: it's not working for you. And I think that's kind

837
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: of the way to maybe start that conversation again. Like

838
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 4: if he needs to sleep in a dog but on

839
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: the floor, fine, but you know, dogs are our family

840
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: and if he can't be in your family, then like

841
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: it's time to reassess some things. But I think he

842
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: will actually acquiesce if you're just like, look, we got

843
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: to adjust this boundary. It's not working for me. I

844
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 4: need my dog. I need my dog in the room.

845
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 5: With me, Like I really, I have no other problems

846
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: with this man. Yeah, other than the fact that he

847
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 5: is not like as obsessed with my dog as I am.

848
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: And like I said, he takes care of him, like

849
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: he walks in and he feeds him. He even plays

850
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 5: with him and stuff. It's just like I said, this

851
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: dog free time that is the issue.

852
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 4: So well, then if he's great, then he will be

853
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: able to adjust, you know. And if you need to,

854
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: like talk to a counselar about this. But I think

855
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: you guys can handle this.

856
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suckond that. I actually think he's going to

857
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: come through.

858
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. So just be you have

859
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: to reset the boundary. You gave him the benefit of

860
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: the doubt, and now you have to take it back. Yes,

861
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: this is a pre existing relationship. You're living, you know,

862
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: like he knew he was living with your dog. You

863
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: have a one bedroom apartment and it's not like you

864
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: have some huge amount of space for him to run around.

865
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: It's unfair to the dog, and you're not going to

866
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: do that to your dog anymore.

867
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: I get a white noise machine if he can't handle

868
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: the snoring, like, just like, blast a bunch of fans

869
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: in the room. That's what you gotta do.

870
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 5: That's a good idea too. Yeah.

871
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Tell him to wear headphones when he goes to sleep.

872
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: Oh, there you go.

873
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: And then tape his mouth shut so he could breathe

874
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: his three breathe through his nose. People are loving that.

875
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, they tape their mouths shut. Yeah, so they

876
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: get me through their nose.

877
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that. I'm getting

878
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 5: him like locks, earplugs or something.

879
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: There you go.

880
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well let us know how it goes.

881
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: Alyssa, Yes, I will thank you guys so much. It

882
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: was great to meet you.

883
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Both by That was easy. Probably say this as that

884
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: we have two dogs roaming around our room. We're liked

885
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: cover your ears first of all. Yeah, if anyone wasn't like.

886
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: I know, it's like when I come to bed and

887
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: there's like my husband and our three pugs like taking

888
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: up the entire bed. I'm like my family. Not that

889
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: there's any room for me, but it's my family. Okay.

890
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: So our next question comes from l She says, Dear Chelsea,

891
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: I have a conflict with my friend that I can't

892
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: seem to get over. My good friend of five years

893
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: is a gay man. We're both therapists and met in

894
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: an old job, and we've been very close to ever since.

895
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: We're aligned on the state of the world, politics all that.

896
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 4: He's just moved to a new city. We were voice memoing,

897
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: texting daily, and even though I appreciated this connection and

898
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: his friendship, I found his relationship at times to be

899
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: negative and draining. We're both therapists, and so we both

900
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: already take on the mental load of the job on

901
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: a daily basis. I was probably holding in some of

902
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: these feelings when he texted me a headline about rights

903
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: being taken away recently. He has a tendency to catastrophize,

904
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: and therefore, through my own process of taking in daily

905
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: news content, I've been careful of where I watch or

906
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: read the news. When he messaged me this alarmist headline,

907
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 4: I validated it, but also encouraged him to make sure

908
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: the source was credible. He seemed to shut down, and

909
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: therefore I did let him know that I personally was

910
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 4: trying to take an emotional distance from all the news

911
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: headlines myself and needed that boundary. Ever since then, though

912
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: our friendship has changed, I noticed an obvious decrease in

913
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: communication and his attempt to see each other. About a

914
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: month ago, I told him how I felt that there

915
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: was distance ever since that day and wanted to apologize

916
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: for it. I opened up about how I was feeling

917
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: with the state of the world, which prompted my response

918
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: to him that day, and while he appreciated my accountability

919
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: and vulnerability, he said at that moment he questioned whether

920
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: I was a safe space. I was taken aback by

921
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: this because I've always been so empathetic. I couldn't believe

922
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: that one message would make him question his ability to

923
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 4: trust me. We ended on good terms from that conversation,

924
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 4: and I've seen him once since things were fine. I'm

925
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: still upset that our friendship isn't the same, and I

926
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: can't seem to not think it doesn't have anything to

927
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: do with what happened, or is it just the natural

928
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: shift of our friendship. What do I do work on

929
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: accepting the new trajectory of our friendship, know that maybe

930
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: this was for the best. Or do I initiate a

931
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: conversation again to try and work on the friendship more

932
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: With love?

933
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: L hi Elle, how are you? This is our special guest,

934
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Madeleine Pitch.

935
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: Hey, how are you?

936
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to be here.

937
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: Thank you.

938
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I could totally understand your situation and your friend's situation,

939
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: because that's not the response that they want to get.

940
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: You know, when someone finds out about their own rights,

941
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: it's like me texting like think about you texting one

942
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: of your guy friends and saying, okay, they're about to

943
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: overturn Roe v Wade and he's like, check your sources.

944
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about. Like it's so

945
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: personal that I totally understand. But now how do you

946
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: kind of fix the friendship? I definitely think your friendship

947
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: has been impacted by that. I think it would be

948
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: if it were in reverse some way, like if he

949
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: was dismissive of your rights, I think you would probably

950
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: have that same reaction, whether it would play out the

951
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: same or not. So taking that into account, I don't know.

952
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: Do you address it again? What do you ladies think?

953
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Or do you just keep showing up as the friend

954
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: and hoping to get back to the friendship that you had.

955
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: What do you think, Madeleine, I've had situations not similar,

956
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: but I've had friend falling out where I wish that

957
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have happened. And I think it feels like

958
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: it's more about what you feel aligned with. Does it

959
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: feel aligned to you to keep I mean you're a therapist.

960
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Is it more aligned to you to continue trying to communicate?

961
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: Does that feel like it's working or does it feel

962
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: more aligned to you? Just like to let him come

963
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: to you when the time is right and show them

964
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: what the love and support is there. It really is

965
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: like person dependent, I think, especially with a person you're

966
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: in this friendship with, like will they respond better to

967
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: that or will they respond better to giving them space

968
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: and just making sure they know that you love them.

969
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I've been trying to, you know,

970
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: ask them how they're doing, how their trip was, you know,

971
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 6: like not being soberbearing, but I kind of get the

972
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 6: feeling they've kind of drifted, and I'm kind of like,

973
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 6: then it forced me to take the look at the

974
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 6: friendship as a whole and reflect on it, and I

975
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, you know what, maybe it was a

976
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 6: lot in general.

977
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 7: I did find myself becoming a little frustrated at other things,

978
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: and I don't want to feel like there's this underlying

979
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 7: resentment in this friendship. I guess I would have handled it.

980
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: I don't know, like I give people to benefit of

981
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 7: the doubt a little bit, and especially if they apologize,

982
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 7: you know, on That's where I feel like there's all

983
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 7: this grudge and it's just kind of unspoken now and

984
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 7: it's a little awkward.

985
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how it.

986
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 7: Would be when we see each other again. I feel

987
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 7: like it's just been continuing this distance, and even when

988
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 7: I got Catherine's email that morning, I was thinking, like,

989
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 7: maybe the distance is okay.

990
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this before this happened. You know,

991
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: you've said there was some negativity and you felt kind

992
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: of drained when you were off the phone with this person.

993
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: After having a phone caller and getting a voice memo,

994
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: did you feel fuller or did you feel more drained?

995
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: Your question?

996
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 7: I think I felt more dreamed, which is something I

997
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 7: was kind of thinking about as of lately. I think

998
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 7: I felt a little exhausted or a little frustrated at

999
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 7: certain times.

1000
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 5: And that's also sad the kind of think about as well.

1001
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: So I do love them a lot.

1002
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that once you make an apology and

1003
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: you are clear and you meant it, which I'm assuming

1004
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: you did, right, you don't really apologize for the same

1005
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: thing multiple times. You kind of have to apologize once,

1006
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: put it out there and see how it's received. That's

1007
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: on them how they want to receive that. If they

1008
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: get it, great, if they don't. You can't keep apologizing

1009
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: for the same act you already did that. So I

1010
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: think you have to let this friendship live in this

1011
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: kind of new territory that it's in.

1012
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: You're admitting that it's draining to you.

1013
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Take the space as a gift, like take the space

1014
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: as like, oh, this is kind of like a little

1015
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: blessing in disguise, and look at it that way and

1016
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: just enjoy this time that you don't feel drained by him.

1017
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: And if he comes back to you in you know,

1018
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: a few months, or if it takes a year or whatever,

1019
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: and you guys get back on track, really be conscientious

1020
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: about how you're going to move forward in the relationship,

1021
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: because it seems like you did something that shifted the

1022
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: relationship and that might be for the better in the

1023
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: long run. You know, I'm glad you apologize. You should

1024
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: have and now you can just like deal with it

1025
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: like you would tell one of your clients to deal

1026
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: with it like an adult. You did the right thing.

1027
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Now now you have a different kind of tone in

1028
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: your relationship.

1029
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: That's okay.

1030
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: Don't fight it and don't resist the reality of the

1031
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: new situation and just go with it and just be

1032
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: relaxed about it. Don't put any pressure or any like

1033
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: timelines on it. Just be cool and I and then

1034
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: I I think you'll have more information in a few

1035
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: more months, like about if the relationship is going anywhere

1036
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: or if it's coming back.

1037
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1038
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think weird vibes are like way easier

1039
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: to get past being in person with someone versus like

1040
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: doing your normal voice memos and text and stuff. So

1041
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: maybe it's just like you leave it light until maybe

1042
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: they're back in town or whatever, and then you know,

1043
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 4: you got to dinner and maybe things will be totally

1044
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: fine or you'll kind of get your answer of like

1045
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: now the vibes are still just too weird.

1046
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 6: I think you're right.

1047
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 7: I think like it would be less awkward obviously as

1048
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 7: a group and we're in person, And.

1049
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: I think because you're both therapists, there's like a tendency

1050
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 4: to want to like over therapize yourselves about this issue.

1051
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: So like, I think you can let yourself off the hook. Yeah,

1052
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: you know, you did your due diligence.

1053
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: As a general rule to anyone listening, like you don't

1054
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: have to keep apologizing for the same thing. People have

1055
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: to be graceful and accepting their apology in order for

1056
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: that to work, for the relationship to work. But I

1057
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: do love that therapists are calling in for advice to

1058
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea. I mean talk about a feather in my cap, Yeah,

1059
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean.

1060
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 7: Listen that we can't always take our own advice that

1061
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 7: would give.

1062
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: An outside perspective is the best perspective in my opinion.

1063
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: Exactly awesome, Elle, Well, let us know how it goes

1064
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: and what happens down the road. And yeah, it was

1065
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: she luck.

1066
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Thank you guys.

1067
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: I have a great day, Calee.

1068
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be

1069
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: right back with battle Aine Pitch.

1070
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: And we're back with Batteline.

1071
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 4: All right. Well, our last question comes from Jamie and

1072
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: she says, Dear Chelsea, I need your help. Girl. I

1073
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: have a friend, Miranda, who is a thirty two year

1074
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: old virgin, and when I say virgin, I mean it.

1075
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: This girl has not even kissed a man, maybe not

1076
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: even hugged a guy. I wish I was kidding. I

1077
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: used to think that it was sweet how innocent she was,

1078
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: but now I'm starting to worry. I shared a funny

1079
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: story to another friend, Jennifer, of how Miranda has never

1080
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: worn a thong in her life. Jennifer then commented that

1081
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: Miranda's innocence actually showed signs of a person who was

1082
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 4: sexually abused in their past life. After hearing this from

1083
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: my friend, it really got me thinking and analyzing some

1084
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 4: of the things Miranda has shared with me. Most recently,

1085
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 4: Miranda had a family event where I helped her choose

1086
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: a nice dress to wear, but her parents, specifically, her

1087
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: dad told her to change her outfit because it quote

1088
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: wasn't appropriate. To me, this was very weird. How can

1089
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: a dad tell her thirty two year old daughter to

1090
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: change her outfit because it's not appropriate? And mind you,

1091
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 4: this wasn't the first time he's done this. Obviously this

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Speaker 4: is a sensitive topic. But I'm really worried about my friend.

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Speaker 4: She wants to date guys and finally have her first kiss,

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Speaker 4: but she doesn't even put herself out there. She's on

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Speaker 4: every dating app and can't match with a guy. She's

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Speaker 4: also a horrible texture, so that's no help. I want

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Speaker 4: to help her out and maybe get her a date.

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Speaker 4: But what if what my friend Jennifer said is true?

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Speaker 4: Am I overstepping?

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Speaker 1: Are they talking about past lives? Past lives? Well, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty big leap I need to take from somebody.

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Speaker 3: I thing like, it's not like looked like they were

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Speaker 3: the version of the friends they are now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a pretty big like, that's a leap.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a lie.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can jump to conclusions like that

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Speaker 3: about someone's life either or their past lives.

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Speaker 2: Like let's not get it twisted crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this overbearing dad that like maybe has some real undertones.

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Speaker 1: And if your father is telling you what to do

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00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: and what to wear at the age of thirty two,

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Speaker 1: then you are probably stuck at an age that you

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Speaker 1: were traumatized at, which is probably eight or nine years old.

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Speaker 1: And that's why she's behaving like a young girl who's

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Speaker 1: never been kissed, who doesn't know how to text.

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Speaker 2: That these are like young girl attributes.

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Speaker 1: So I think in order for your friend to, like,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be helpful to your friend, you

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Speaker 1: have to get her into like counseling and find a

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Speaker 1: good therapist for her where she can talk to somebody

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Speaker 1: about what really happened in her childhood and why she's

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Speaker 1: taking direction from her dad as a thirty two year

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Speaker 1: old woman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even to just like help her get out of

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Speaker 4: this sort of enmeshment with the dad who's really overbearing,

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Speaker 4: Like she's got to see somebody to kind of get

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Speaker 4: her out of that.

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Speaker 3: That also isn't your burden, Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 3: at the same time, it's like you can love your

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Speaker 3: friend and you can give them all the resources, but

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Speaker 3: you also you can't force them into therapy and that

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Speaker 3: they're not ready for. It's a really tough balance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could always I mean, there are soft

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Speaker 1: to gentle ways to suggest therapy, Like, hey, I saw

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Speaker 1: a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: I saw your father too.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was very strange, just so you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's not normal or it's not common for men,

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00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, for people to listen to their fathers about

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00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: their outfits at your age, it's also unusual. Don't shame her,

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00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: but it's also unusual that you've never been kissed. It's

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00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: unusual for you to be a virgin. I'm wondering if

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00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: you should really have somebody who has no like opinions.

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Speaker 2: About your life.

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00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: That's kind of removing yourself from the situation to bounce

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00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: this stuff off of so that you can get a

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Speaker 1: real idea of if something happened that maybe you're not remembering,

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00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: or maybe there's a traumatic event in your life that

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Speaker 1: you need to uncover.

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Speaker 2: Your lives, in any of your lives. I love I

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00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: love jumping to that.

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Speaker 4: I love.

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00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, did something happen in your past life?

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00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: That you owe that you have this long red hair,

1155
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: like so presumptuous to say something like that, So don't

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00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: say that.

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00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: Okay, and tell her she can just use chat JPT

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00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: to text boys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's youah to learn how to do that.

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00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: But then she's going to kill all those water buffalo

1162
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: So well, Madeline, it was so nice to meet you today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a pleasure you are. Yes, absolutely, we

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00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: loved having you. You know, Madeleine from Riverdale, Sightless and

1165
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: The Strangers chapter one, but now we have The Strangers

1166
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Chapter two, which is in theaters. It's happening, And you

1167
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: can also go on Amazon to watch her new rom

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Speaker 1: com which is called Maintenance Required.

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Speaker 4: Awesome. Thank you did it.

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Speaker 2: We did it. We're wrapped. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, take care.

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Speaker 4: The word of the week is acquiesce to accept something

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00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: without protest acquiesce.

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Speaker 1: I just announced all my tour dates. They just went

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Speaker 1: on sale this week. It's called the High and Mighty Tour.

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Speaker 1: I will be starting in February of next year, so

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Speaker 1: I will be touring.

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Speaker 2: From February through June.

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Speaker 1: I haven't added second shows yet, but we probably will

1181
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Speaker 1: be to some of these, So go.

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Speaker 2: Get your tickets now.

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Speaker 1: If you want good seats and you want to come

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Speaker 1: see me perform, I will be on the High and

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Speaker 1: Mighty tour.

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Speaker 4: Do you want advice from Chelsea? Right into Dear Chelsea

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Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brad Dickert executive

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