1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Well, we'll come out your city. Donna lay I gets 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: sing you a confisne will besied hotel. 3 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: And if you want a little banging. 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: And yeng, you ain't come along. 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: No one represents the party. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: The only person that can represent the party is a presidential. 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 4: Nominee who will be chosen by the party members who 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: vote in the primary. 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: has not led to safe communities. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 5: To let you know what we're all doing resisting this 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 5: low down. 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 6: Dirt and no good felt. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 5: The resident of the United States of America. 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the revolution away. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Coming to your center, got against alas and saying you 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: a consciousial. 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: The new Sean Hennity Show, more me I'm the scenes, 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: information on freaking news and more bold inspired solutions for America. 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving, America. This is Peter Schweizer and I'm sitting 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 7: here with Eric Eggers. We are filling in for Sean. 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 7: We hope you are preparing and ready for Thanksgiving. We 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 7: hope you have a blessed time. We are with the 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 7: Government Accountability Institute and we have a podcast called The 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 7: Drill Down. We would love you to subscribe to it. 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 7: You can find out more at the drilldown dot com. 27 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 7: We are going to get to your calls and we 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 7: want you to join the conversation one eight nine four, 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 7: one seven, three two six tell us about politics and Thanksgiving? 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 7: Are you going to talk about it at the dinner table? 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 7: It was interesting we talked to Tim Burchett last hour 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 7: of very outspook congressmen from Tennessee, always candidate, always open, 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 7: frustrated by the corruption Washington, DC. We are certainly familiar 34 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 7: with that. We're going to continue to monitor the situation, 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 7: of course in Washington with this tragic shooting of two 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 7: National Guards members. But how are you feeling about how 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 7: things are going in Washington, Eric, I mean there's a 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 7: lot of people maybe concerned that things aren't going as 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 7: quickly as they thought they would in terms of cleaning 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 7: the place up. 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, if you missed our conversation with Tim Burchett at 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 8: the beginning of last Hour, we will post it on 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 8: our Twitter feeds, and you can find Peter Schweizer and 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 8: myself at Twitter and please follow our drill Down podcast 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 8: on Twitter as well. But I thought he was incredibly 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 8: candid with a number of things number one. He talked 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 8: about the Ukraine deal, which we began this program with. 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 8: There's some hope that you'll see a deal struck by 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 8: at the end of this year, and he talked about 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 8: quite a frankly, the people he thinks that are opposing 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 8: this deal, opposing it because they're making money off of 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 8: the program. Making money off of public service is literally 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 8: what we do here at the government accountabiliys do not 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 8: us personally, but we docum at those that do that. 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 8: That's a constant feature and topic of our Drill Down 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 8: podcast and to that end, you know, insider trading is 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 8: another topic that we've covered extensively. You wrote a book 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 8: on it in twenty eleven called Throw Them All Out 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 8: in which Nancy Pelosi was exposed is being able to 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 8: participate on an insider deal with Visa and her husband's 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 8: buying selling trucks, and unfortunately that practice has only continued. 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 8: We said last year was a record selling year from 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 8: stock trades, nine thousand stock trades bought and sold by 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 8: members of Congress. This year on track to far exceed that, 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 8: over thirteen thousand individual stock trades happening within the last 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty five days and he said, you know, 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 8: Tim Burgey, I think is quite candid. We would love 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 8: to ban this practice. We're going to introduce the bill 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 8: to do so. We don't expect it to happen. We 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 8: don't expect it to pass. 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 9: Well. 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 7: Hopefully he's not being too pessimistic. I want to be 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 7: an optimist, but of course we need to be realists. 74 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 7: So the insider's trading thing is a real problem. We 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 7: have bipartisan support for banning it. We also have Republicans 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 7: and Democrats that have profited from that arrangement. 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 9: And we're following other stories as well. 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 7: We just had an investigation a come out on DEI 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 7: fraud people. Assuming Trump coming in he was going to 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 7: get rid of DEI issues, this is actually an opportunity 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 7: for people to get rich from DEI programs. This is 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 7: with the Small Business Administration's eight A program. You can 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 7: find out more about this actually zero Hedge. They wrote 84 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 7: a great piece on our investigation today and you can 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 7: follow my feed on Twitter. But essentially, this is a 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 7: program that is a set aside for quote unquote disadvantaged 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 7: minority contractors to get contracts and to get loans from 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 7: the federal government. 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 8: And before you get give out the details because it 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 8: is quite alarming and I think people will be shocked 91 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 8: to find out that despite as you said, Donald Trump 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 8: campaign and we're going to get rid of DEI, and 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 8: we've seen the DOZE program get in there and kind 94 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 8: of eliminate a lot of these programs from US, the 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 8: IDEA and others. But you just said eight A, So 96 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 8: that's like it's d The letters DEI have gone away, Yeah, 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 8: but they've been replaced with these very bureaucratic sounding sub sections. 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 8: And this is the world within at least one federal 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 8: agency where the DEI practice still very much exists. 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. And basically what they are trying to 101 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 7: do is encourage minority owned businesses. But in practice, what 102 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 7: happens is you get a couple of people they can 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: be minorities, you know in terms of race or engender 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 7: or sexual preference or whatever, and they set up an LLC. 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 7: There's like two of them, and then they partner with 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 7: a massive conglomerate and it needs to be an arrangement 107 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 7: fifty one forty nine and essentially, you know, the contractors 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 7: that are the quote unquote disadvantaged group get preferential treatment. 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 7: They do oftentimes very little of the work, and yet 110 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 7: they reap these enormous profits and benefits. And as we 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 7: point out in the report, or the Department of Justice 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 7: just found one example where a USAID officer bagged one 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 7: million dollars in bribes while steering a five hundred million 114 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 7: dollar contract to firms because of their quote unquote special status. 115 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 7: It's a massive problem. James O'Keefe did a video on this, 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 7: So the problem continues. DOGE did not get rid of it, 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 7: and we need to continue to fight this because it's 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 7: a problem just because insiders are making money, but we've 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 7: also found out examples of fraud where actually this money 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 7: ends up going overseas to some pretty nasty groups. 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, we want to talk to you about You know 122 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 8: this is this is not the most pleasant news you're 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 8: going to encounter the day before Thanksgiving, and we do 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 8: want to talk to you about, like what's on your 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 8: political recipe and conversational recipe as you end Thanksgiving. A 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 8: poll shows more and more Americans are willing to talk 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 8: about want to talk about politics at Thanksgiving dinner table. 128 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 8: We want to hear from you and what you want 129 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 8: to talk about. Give us a call it's one eight 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 8: hundred and nine four one on Sean and nine for 131 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 8: one seven, three, two six. But absolutely what has happened 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 8: in Washington, d C. Is there's so much money slashing around. 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 8: Of course, you and I have done a program actually 134 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 8: on the Sean Handy television show, which we document is 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 8: called Boomtown. It's about how wealthy Washington, d C. Had become, 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 8: and you had seven of the ten wealthiest counties in 137 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 8: the country. So of the top ten wealthiest counties in 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 8: this country, of which there are thousands of counties, seven 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 8: of them were immediately around the Washington DC area. It's 140 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 8: it's increasing the outer touch, which is why they rationalize 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 8: things like this SBA program and why Nancy Pelosi can say, oh, 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 8: I think it's okay to participate in inside of trading 143 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 8: in Congress, but unfortunately it's worse than just self enrichment. 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 8: What you're alluding to is there's new reporting from Christopher 145 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 8: Ruffo that you've got a number of social welfare programs 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 8: in Minnesota that the Somali populations are taking advantage of, 147 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 8: and unfortunately, with little oversight you've seen whether it's a 148 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 8: program intended for housing, you know, or program in ten 149 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 8: and four autism. You see these people take advantage of 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 8: it in significant ways. You see significant growth. It starts 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 8: off with three million, it grows to one hundred million. 152 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 8: We've documented previously there was a feeding program where the 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 8: same thing happened also with these Somali populations. But the 154 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 8: new reporting now shows that it's not just waste and fraud. 155 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 8: It's the fraudulent money then ends up going overseas. It 156 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 8: goes via these jualas, and it ends up literally in 157 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 8: al Qaeda linked groups in Somali and elsewhere. And so 158 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 8: you know that's it's not just the waste of tax 159 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 8: payer money, it's waste of tax pay money that then 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 8: goes to groups who very much want to do us harm. 161 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're funding our enemies. And by the way, these 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 7: are feeding programs, these are EBT programs. We did a 163 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 7: report at the Government Accountability Institute back in twenty seventeen 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 7: called EBT Fraud and showing how people were signing up 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 7: for EBT you know, the food stamp program essentially, and 166 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 7: they were running up balances. By the way, I never 167 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 7: realized you could run up large balances on these EBT 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 7: cards by not using them in some cases sixty thousand dollars. 169 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 8: Hey tell me you're an out of touch elitist. Without 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 8: telling me you're an out of touch of leadis. I 171 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 8: don't know how to commit EBT fraud, says the wealthy Audi. 172 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 7: Well, it's yes, it's it's it's amazing to me how 173 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 7: these programs don't have basic stop gaps in them. So 174 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 7: you have these EBT cards that get these huge sums. 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 7: They sell it, you know, for eighty cents on the dollar, 176 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 7: let's say, and then that money is used to fund 177 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 7: terrorist organizations which are targeting the United States. It was 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 7: all ship Bob, which is a terrorist organization in Africa. 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 7: It's also been linked to al Qaida. The drug cartels 180 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: in Mexico benefit from US. And even when there are prosecutions, 181 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 7: there's this case in Minnesota where. 182 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 8: This is stunning, by the way. 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's absolutely stunning. You had a seven 184 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 7: point two million dollar medicaid fraud scheme. Seven two point 185 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 7: two million dollars kind of small, basically small ball in 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 7: the large scheme of things. 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 8: Compared to Minnesota fraud. 188 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, But they got this this Smali immigrant usef 189 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: who who was involved in this case and We're going 190 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 7: to play an audio clip here in a minute of 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 7: the jury foreman talking about this case. Prosecutors brought the evidence, 192 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 7: the case took place, the jury convicted. It took him 193 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 7: basically four hours, but the judge decided after the jury 194 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 7: said we find him guilty. The judge decided, well, no, 195 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 7: maybe there were cultural reasons why this took place. We're 196 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 7: not sure that was criminal intent. Listen to the audio tape. 197 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 7: This is the jury foreman responding to what the judge said. 198 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 6: I am shocked. I'm shocked based off of all of 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 6: the evidence that was presented to us and the obvious 200 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: guilt that we saw. Based off of the said evidence, 201 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 6: it was not a difficult decision whatsoever. The deliberation took 202 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: probably four hours at most, based off of the state's 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 6: evidence that was presented. I was beyond a reasonable doubt. 204 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 8: So I want to connect it back to something Tim 205 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 8: Burch said, because you've seen some reporting about how members 206 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 8: of the House GOP caucus are disaffected, they're sad, they 207 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 8: allegedly are going to resign, and he said, that's just 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 8: the deep state pushing back, and I think these are Unfortunately, 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 8: this judge is an example of the deep state kind 210 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 8: of pushing back on like this is the business model, 211 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 8: this is the status quo. They're blaming cultural issues. This 212 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 8: feeding program that happened in Minnesota several years ago, they 213 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 8: did the same thing. It was these smally populations and 214 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 8: they grew and grew, and they said, oh, it's not 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 8: that they're committing fraud. It's not that they just because 216 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 8: they can't document all of the services that didn't exist 217 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 8: that people are getting, like gold bars at weddings, these 218 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 8: lavish gifts that they're giving. It's a cultural issue, it's 219 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 8: not a fraud issue. And that's a complete lie. And 220 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 8: so it just shows that it's not enough to just 221 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 8: kind of go in and even like we're going to 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 8: prosecute this stuff. As we documented on a recent episode 223 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 8: of The Drill Down the federal government in December, So 224 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 8: Joe Biden loses, Donald Trump comes in and he says, 225 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 8: we're going to hold people accountable, We're going to do 226 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 8: the right thing. We're getting rid of waste fraud abuse. 227 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 8: So the person who was in charge of CMS at 228 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 8: the time issues a memo and says, listen, hey, people 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 8: who are in charge of investigating fraud within these welfare programs. 230 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 8: Even if you suspect someone is committing medicaid fraud, which 231 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 8: this smality case of Minnesota is an example of that, 232 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 8: even if you suspect that, you are not allowed to 233 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 8: remove them from the program. This is official memo from 234 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 8: the person in charge of this. And you know, this 235 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 8: is consistent with where the federal government has been on 236 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 8: other examples of fraud. They've told states repeatedly with EBT 237 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 8: and snap fraud, if you document more fraud, you're going 238 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 8: to actually be penalized. The incentives are actually for to 239 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 8: cover up fraud. It's been a massive problem and it 240 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 8: speaks to the sea change the Trump administration is attempting 241 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 8: to manifest and taking over. And so for people that 242 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 8: are frustrated that more hasn't been done, I just going 243 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 8: back to Tim Burchett's comments, like, it's a big, big 244 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 8: forces trying to fight on this thing, a lot. 245 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 9: Of people making a lot of money. 246 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 7: And by the way, this position that fraud is kind 247 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 7: of a cultural misunderstanding, first of all, enormously insulting to immigrants, 248 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 7: basically saying, well, you know, you don't really understand what 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 7: fraud is. You know that enormously insulting, even more insulting 250 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 7: to the American people because what they're essentially saying, what 251 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 7: this judge is essentially saying, is I don't care. We 252 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 7: don't care if they're gonna commit fraud. We're gonna let 253 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 7: them commit fraud because we think it's okay, it's your 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 7: taxpayer money. Too bad, that case is gonna be appealed. 255 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 7: But just think of the time and the churn, and 256 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 7: if they are receiving Medicaid payments and they can continue 257 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 7: to receive them either even though they're under this suspicion, 258 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 7: the problem is just gonna get worse. 259 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 8: I mean, it's outrageous if from the people who brought you, 260 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 8: black people can't get voter ID because it's racist. Comes 261 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 8: fraud is a cultural tradition. It's just the expression of 262 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 8: their heritage. It's not actually robbing taxpayers of billions dollars. 263 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 8: It's insane, it's insulting, and it's one of the things 264 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 8: that we regularly try to expose and document here at 265 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 8: the Drill Down podcast that we do each week, which 266 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 8: you can find at the drill down dot com. Right now, 267 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 8: we're filling in for Sean Handy. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm 268 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 8: Eric Eggers. We want to hear from you the listening public. 269 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 8: What are your Thanksgiving plans? What are you worried about 270 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 8: talking about UH? And what else is on your mind? 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 8: Give us the call. It's one eight hundred nine to 272 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 8: one sewn one eight hundred nine four one seven three 273 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 8: two six. We right back with your phone calls after this. 274 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: Are you sick of winning yet? 275 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: Me? 276 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 10: Either? World leaders, union, businesses, social media. They all want 277 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 10: to work with Trump. He said what he was going 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 10: to do, and then he did it. 279 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: The White House is open for business and America is 280 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: bad bad narnis on right now. 281 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: Hi. 282 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 7: If Peter Schweitzer are filling in for Sean Hannity, I'm 283 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 7: sitting here with Eric Egers. We're going to go to 284 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: the phones. Let's go to Jeff from Las Vegas, who's 285 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 7: been waiting so patiently. Jeff, how are you hi? 286 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 11: Eric? 287 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: Peter. 288 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: I just want to say I think you're one of 289 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: the best investigators on the planet. I'm curious what your 290 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: next book, when it's going to be out, what it's 291 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: going to be about. And two, I'm curious with your talent, 292 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: why you haven't investigated the changes that the Democratic Party 293 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: has gone through the last five years, how much more 294 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: like the old Confederacory has become, or maybe even the 295 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: Bolshevik Party done. 296 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 7: Jeff, thanks so much for the call. I always appreciate 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 7: hearing from readers. Is very thoughtful of yous. So of 298 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 7: a book coming out January the twentieth, I cannot talk 299 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 7: about it. That is my agreement with my publisher. It 300 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 7: hasn't been officially announced coming out January the twentieth. It 301 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 7: is the most frightening book I've ever written. I can't 302 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 7: give you the title of the subject matter, but I 303 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 7: appreciate you very much for asking. And I'm very very 304 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 7: proud of the research team here at GAI. We've broken 305 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 7: so many big stories over the years. The Clinton corruption. 306 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: We were the first with the Hunter Biden corruption, insider 307 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 7: trading on the stock market, you name it. So there 308 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 7: is more to com. 309 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 8: Eric, and you're also a student of Russian history. I 310 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 8: swear that Jeff is not your agent, but he could 311 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 8: be because he sets you up so nicely. It was 312 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 8: very sweet, Jeff fan Actually he once this book comes out, 313 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 8: just the peak behind the Courton Peter does have to 314 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 8: do another book, so maybe he will do one on 315 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 8: how the Democratic Party has become like the Bolsheviks. What's 316 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 8: your just quick assessment of that. Do you see any 317 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 8: parallels there? 318 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean the tendency to focus 319 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 7: on violent acts rather than loyal opposition and the centralization 320 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 7: of power. They want the centralization of power. 321 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 8: Well, and just to you know, we're having fun. It's 322 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 8: the day before Thanksgiving, but just the you know, we 323 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 8: began this show on a very somber note. To that point, 324 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 8: we know, we we have to remind you we are 325 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 8: dealing with We do not know what the condition is 326 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 8: of those two National Guards troops, and there was previous 327 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 8: report and they'd passed away. We now told her in 328 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 8: a critical condition and we hope and pray for their safety. 329 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 8: But you did hear Tim Burschett say that he draws 330 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 8: a direct connection between the shooting that occurred today and 331 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 8: exactly the atmosphere and the culture that's existing within that 332 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 8: Democratic Party. To Jeff's point, we'll be right back after this. 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 8: Give us a call. One hundred and nine four one 334 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 8: seven three two six hundred and seven three nine two 335 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 8: six we're back here. When the Sean Handy Raiders show, 336 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 8: He's Peter Schweiser. Americ Eggers back after this. 337 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 10: When news breaks, you get the inside story that no 338 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 10: one else has and the behind the scenes chatter that 339 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 10: the mainstream media doesn't even know about. This is the 340 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 10: Sean Hannity Show. 341 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving, America. It's Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. 342 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 7: We're filling in for Sean. Tell us about your Thanksgiving plans? 343 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 7: Are you going to talk politics at the Thanksgiving table? 344 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 7: One one seven three nine four one seven three two 345 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 7: six Eric, I have started already with some Christmas shopping 346 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 7: and I've decided the perfect gift for you. 347 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 8: What's that? And I'm terrified of this because you are 348 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 8: notoriously let's call it the militaristic in terms of your 349 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 8: commercial tastes. 350 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if I would say that, but 351 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 7: I ran across this on social media and I thought 352 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 7: this was fascinating. Tractor Supply Company is offering the Reaper spear. 353 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 7: It's three feet long, it has an eight inch blade. 354 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 7: It's completely sold out. It is completely sold out. This 355 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 7: item is designed for piercing, prying, impaling, and breaching. It's 356 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 7: designed for hunting tactical uses in general protection. It notes 357 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 7: on its website. This item could not be shipped to Massachusetts, 358 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: so I don't know what they have against spears in Massachusetts. 359 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 8: What do they have against protection? 360 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 7: But I think this is great. It talks about American independence, 361 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 7: about Americans wanting to care for themselves, defend themselves, hunt 362 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 7: for their food. This gives me faith in America. And 363 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 7: I'm gonna buy one of these for you when it 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 7: comes back to being available because they are completely sold out. 365 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 8: It does the opposite for me, Peter, because its name 366 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 8: is the Reaper into survival hunting spear. Yeah, and you know, 367 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 8: I respect everyone's rights to go out and hunt and 368 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 8: defend themselves. It seems to be to be an inefficient 369 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 8: way to hunt, like a spear. 370 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 9: It's fun. It's fun. 371 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 7: I know there have been technological advances guns and things 372 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: like that. You know, you could even use a bone arrow, 373 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 7: but there's just something fun I think about going out 374 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 7: there with a spirit. 375 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 8: What does it tell you about where we are as 376 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 8: a country that they hunting in survival spear is currently 377 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 8: sold out. 378 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 7: I think the fact that people are interested in sort 379 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: of traditional rituals you're seeing has been reported interest in 380 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 7: Orthodox churches, right people are because of what happened with 381 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk and the tragedy there, people are looking for 382 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 7: more traditional orientations. You're finding a lot of younger couples 383 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 7: are going back to sort of more traditional ways of entertainment. 384 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 7: They're sort of unplugging. So I think this is just 385 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 7: a throwback people. People want that connection, that sense that 386 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 7: they're caring for themselves. I think the Reaper is a 387 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 7: great to. 388 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 8: Go back to the previous call. This is what makes 389 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 8: Peter Schweitzer an elite researcher. Only someone with his talent 390 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 8: can connect people going to orthodox churches, people married at 391 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 8: a younger age, and spear purchases. 392 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 9: Absolutely, Let's see what. 393 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 8: Winston from Texas has to say. Winston, thank you for 394 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 8: calling in. You're on with Peter Schwiz and Eric Eggers 395 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 8: here on the Seawan Handy radio show. 396 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: Ghetto. Yeah. Hello, Hey Winston, Hey guys, how are you 397 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: sorry to be talking on a sad moment with the 398 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: two guardsmen? My heart goes out to him. 399 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 9: Yeah. 400 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to address the situation where you have people 401 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 3: who know better should be doing better, and that comes 402 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: with Mark Kelly and the Seditious Six as they call them. 403 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: They're subversive. They apparently they don't understand the UC. They 404 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: also don't understand that we have impressionable young people, young 405 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: folks that are just starting out their lives to become 406 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: military folks for us, standing up for the country and 407 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: protecting the country, and they're putting deceptive ideas in their minds. 408 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: And this whole thing smells of a syop. I know 409 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: it sounds weird, but I think that they're getting in 410 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: here and they are planning the seed of division with 411 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: our young military folks, and it's putting the country in 412 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: a bad situation. This is a national security issue and 413 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: there should be retribution for what's going on. I really 414 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: believe that some people need to be called back to duty, 415 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: addressed accordingly with the UCMJ, and nip this stuff in 416 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: the butt. And this all began, make no mistake, It 417 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: all began with Mark Milly when he made that decision 418 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: to use his position as the military leader to call 419 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: a foreign country, which also happened to be a communist country, 420 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 3: and start telling them that if Trump does something, he 421 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: will reach out to them. The military and the civilian 422 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: leadership are separated for a specific reason. We are a 423 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: civilian ran country and I served, so I get it. 424 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: And these young men and women that are in these 425 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: positions that are being told divisive stuff like this, they're 426 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: using their feelings more so than they are their logic 427 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: and knowledge. 428 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, you're exactly right. We covered this earlier. 429 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 7: By the way, this has been something Left has done 430 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 7: several times. They did this during the Iraq War. They 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 7: did this during the twenty twenty riots, the George Floyd riots, 432 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 7: where they encouraged and there were actually enlisted soldiers who 433 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 7: decided to declare that the orders to go to Iraq 434 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: or the orders to be deployed with the National Guard 435 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 7: in Chicago were illegal and they were not going to participate. 436 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 7: Those guys all ended up. In some cases they got 437 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 7: hard labor. I mean, they were court martialed, they went 438 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 7: and they had hard labor. And all these guys in Washington, 439 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 7: DC that are encouraging them to do it pay no 440 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 7: price for this whatsoever. So they're using these young men 441 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 7: and women in uniform as sacrificial lambs to try to 442 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 7: prove their political point. And you're exactly right. It is 443 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 7: designed to sow opposition and division with the armed forces. 444 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 7: It's a very very dangerous game they're playing well. 445 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: And while we await updates on the condition of those 446 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 8: two National guardsmen who have been shot in the Washington, 447 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 8: DC area, we have conflicting statements from the governor of 448 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 8: West Virginia where they come from. What we do know 449 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 8: is Elisa Slotkin was on ABC News this weekend literally 450 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 8: addressed in the idea of National Guards troops, and we 451 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 8: can play the audio perhaps in a little bit, but 452 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 8: she essentially said, I know people and she was talking 453 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 8: about the idea of these National Guards troops are nervous 454 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 8: and they might make a mistake furthering the idea that 455 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 8: they present not something that protects national safety, but they 456 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 8: themselves pose a threat to national safety, which then you 457 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 8: heard a member of Congress on this program connect the 458 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 8: dots between comments like that and actions like today, And 459 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 8: so I do think, unfortunately it is it's a reality, 460 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 8: and I think it's interesting to see like this is 461 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 8: not it's not uncommon now, that's happening more and more, 462 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 8: and so unfortunately tragies like today may also become less infrequent. 463 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 7: Well, and you wonder what is it actually going to take. 464 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 7: We have people now that have shot and died because 465 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 7: of the words the resistance that the left is imposted. 466 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 7: What's it going to actually take for them to stop. 467 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 7: I'm not sure that they will stop. And that's the 468 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 7: scary thing. 469 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 9: Well, well, the. 470 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 7: Situation only get worse, will the number of fatalities increase, 471 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 7: and they will just double down on the rhetoric because again, 472 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 7: it's not affecting them. They're not paying a price for us, 473 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 7: their family members who are are are suffering these horrific crimes. Well, 474 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 7: it's other people. 475 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 8: And to the point, after Donald Trump was shot last summer, 476 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 8: they said, Okay, we're going to dial down the rhetoric. 477 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 8: We're not we're not going to call him a Nazi 478 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 8: or a fascist anymore. And then Charlie Kirk was shot 479 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 8: and ultimately killed, and then it was like, hey, we've 480 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 8: got to have a better ownership of the consequences of 481 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 8: our rhetoric. And now you continue to see that that 482 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 8: just hasn't happened, and unfortunately these events still occur. Let's 483 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 8: hear from James in Florida, who I think has some 484 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 8: very real questions about what might be behind this. 485 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: Yes, thanks for taking my call. The best speaker in 486 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: the world. So will be paced with women Okay. 487 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 9: No worries. 488 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 4: Do you believe that there might have been an outside 489 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: source or do you believe that there might be a 490 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: person or an organization that prompted these people to tell 491 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: the military to resist our president's orders. And I'll hang 492 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: up and listen to your response. 493 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 9: It's a great question. 494 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 7: I don't I haven't seen any evidence for that, but 495 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 7: I would not exclude it. And we know that this 496 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 7: has been a tactic of the left going back to 497 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 7: two thousand, that's when there were members of the military. 498 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 7: There are three or four who said we believe that 499 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 7: the Iraq war is illegal, that President Bush does not 500 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 7: have the authority. So to the caller's point, we don't 501 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 7: know if there's a foreign element, but it is certainly 502 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 7: an organized effort. There are calls for this to happen. 503 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 7: It's happened in the past, and it's happening now. And 504 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 7: as we mentioned in that first hour, the definition of 505 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 7: what they consider an illegal military act involves pretty much 506 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 7: everything that Donald Trump has been doing right now. They 507 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 7: say it would be illegal for the military refuse in 508 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 7: order to help with any immigration enforcement, any attacks water 509 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 7: on ships in international waters. That's the sort of anti 510 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: drug interdiction that's taking place right now, any attack on 511 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 7: Venezuela or Mexico or Nigeria, any preemptive military strike on Iran, 512 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 7: which is of course already has happened. So in other words, 513 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 7: they're essentially saying that the military pilots who participated in 514 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 7: that surgical strike in Iran should not have done so. 515 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 7: They were engaging in a legal military action. This is 516 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 7: organized and this is something that thought has gone into, 517 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 7: So I would not preclude the fact that there's certainly 518 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 7: foreign elements that like this, that this is going on. 519 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 8: It's the day before Thanksgiving when people come together despite 520 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 8: their differences, because they are united by some common link, 521 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 8: either by blood or by marriage or by just a 522 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 8: social circle. And that is actually, I think interwoven into 523 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 8: who we should be as a country. You is a 524 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 8: phrase sometimes the loyal opposition, specifically, you think we've gotten 525 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 8: away from that. I know you first kind of broke 526 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 8: in professionally in Ronald Reagan's Washington d C. And I'm 527 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 8: reminded of a story that Tip O'Neil would tell that 528 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 8: they would go to the Reagan the White House and 529 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 8: people and the staffer would say, oh, well, here's where 530 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 8: we sort of plot against you, and Ronald Reagan would 531 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 8: say not after five o'clock, you don't, Yeah, because we're 532 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 8: all in this together. And I just like, what do 533 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 8: you make of where we are today versus where we 534 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 8: used to be and what it kind of means for 535 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 8: what's going to happen next? 536 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 537 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 7: I mean, when you're in a situation where you are 538 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 7: questioning the legitimacy of a duly elected president won the 539 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 7: popular votes, you can't argue it was an electoral college. 540 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 7: Fluke won the electoral college did so in a substantial way. 541 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 7: When asked what illgal military actions has he taken? While 542 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 7: he hasn't taken any when saying that he's going to 543 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 7: be a dictator or a king, they can't demonstrate an 544 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 7: example where there's been a court order that he's violated. 545 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 9: He's followed all of them. So the point is. 546 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 7: That they continue with these actions, and it is highly 547 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 7: destructive because what it does is it undermines people's faith 548 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 7: in electric government and in institutions. I understand people are frustrated. 549 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 7: I understand they know there's a lot of corruption, and 550 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: there is systematic corruption, But what they're doing is engaging 551 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 7: in I would basically sy it's a guerrilla warfare against 552 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 7: a duly elected president because they are in the mode 553 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 7: of resistance, not in the mode of being the loyal opposition. 554 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 8: And the question becomes either in the mode of resistance 555 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 8: because they actually need to resist, or because they realize 556 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: that's actually good business. Donald Trump wreck represents such a 557 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 8: threat to the status quo. He represents such such a 558 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 8: threat to the way Washington works, and how much money 559 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 8: everyone involved in that operation makes that, you know, in 560 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 8: the only way for them to continue to hold their 561 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 8: position to power or continue to seem like we can 562 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 8: fight against him. That's what the government shutdown was against 563 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 8: was about. That's what this video, the Citition six is about. 564 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 8: It is gross and it you know, there's a lot 565 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 8: of money behind and that's one of the things we 566 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 8: continue to spend our time here at the Government Accountability 567 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 8: Institute trying to document. It's a great point, it's a 568 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 8: great question, and we thank you for the call. He 569 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 8: calls one eight hundred and nine four one seven three 570 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 8: two six one eight hundred and nine four one Sewan. 571 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 8: That is the number we will continue to take calls on. 572 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 8: We have one more segment to go. He is Peter Schweizer. 573 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 8: I Americ Eggers. We are from the Drill Down podcast, 574 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 8: which you can at the drill down dot com. Right now, 575 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 8: we're on Sean Handy's radio show. We're back right after this. 576 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 10: Nity uncovers the real truth, real truth about the politics 577 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 10: of DC. 578 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: He's your watchdog on Baby Brother every day. Nity is 579 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: on right now. 580 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving everybody. It's Peter Schweizer. That's Eric Eggers. We 581 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 7: are filling in for Sean. We have been taking your 582 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: calls about Thanksgiving. Butch is going to tell us about 583 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 7: what he does with his family for Thanksgiving. 584 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 9: Butch, go ahead, yes. 585 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 11: Thank you. Back in nineteen eighty four, we had a 586 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 11: deaf in the family a couple of days before Thanksgiving 587 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 11: and it kind of took all the wind out of 588 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 11: the holidays. So my wife and another friend of hers said, 589 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 11: you know, rather than going around moping around, let's do 590 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 11: something to get through the holidays. So decided to go camping. Well, 591 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 11: the first camping trip was four adults and four children, 592 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 11: and over the years it's been every year we've done 593 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 11: the same thing with them. This is our twenty sixth 594 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 11: year and the children have grown and have children of 595 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 11: their own and grandchildren of their own. And last year 596 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 11: we had forty five people for Thanksgiving dinner. It's turned 597 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 11: into a five day camping thing between the two families, 598 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 11: and last year we out have nine campsites and twenty 599 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 11: some people for camping out here. And then, like I 600 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 11: said to Serty, some people for Thanksgiving dinner. 601 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 9: That's amazing. 602 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 7: Butch, what I love about this story is you took 603 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 7: a tragedy, you were resilient, and you gave thanks. Thanks 604 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 7: so much for that call. It's a great hopeful ending 605 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: to this broadcast. I've really really enjoyed this. I'm thankful 606 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: on Thanksgiving. I'm thankful to God, to my family, I'm 607 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 7: thankful to you Eric. We've been doing this together now 608 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 7: for so many years. I'm thankful for the team at 609 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 7: the Government Accountability Institute. Three members stayed with us and 610 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 7: have helped us here. That would be Paul, Grant and Lucas. 611 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: And we also want to thank Sean for giving us 612 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 7: this opportunity, for Linda for all the great help that 613 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 7: she always gives us in so many ways, and for 614 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 7: Jason and Katie helping out as well. Thank you all, 615 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 7: and happy Thanksgiving to everyone. 616 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 617 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 8: I'm also thankful to the people that help make this happen. 618 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: I'm thankful for the opportunity to be here. And I 619 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 8: will say I think you know, optimism is a choice, 620 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 8: and you had just heard from Butch that his family 621 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 8: made the choice to be optimistic, and I think as 622 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 8: a country, we have to be intentionally optimistic. Look, I 623 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 8: remember five years ago, we've seen stuff get censored and 624 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 8: people were locked into their homes, and that's not where 625 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 8: we are anymore. And I think the fact that you 626 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 8: and I can do this program and call and hold 627 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 8: powerful people to account is a reflection of what continues 628 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 8: to make this country the greatest in the world. And 629 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 8: as long as people can do that, then there's hope. 630 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 8: So we thank you. We hope everyone in the country 631 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 8: has a wonderful Thanksgiving and we cannot wait to talk 632 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 8: to you when the next opportunity to guest host for 633 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 8: Sean handicoms for Peter Schweizer, America, Eggers, God bless American 634 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 8: and Happy Thanksgiving.