1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It to show that text 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host ourselves. Whially that dude, No, 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to save my life. This is not 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: a hostage video. Look at this background. I know, y'all like, 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: what what the hell Wiley at right now? I ain't far, 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: but I ain't close. Man. We chilling man celebrating life 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll give you all that fresh background. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: But you know I'm not so technology or you know, 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: technologically sound with my equipment style. It's beautiful out here, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: having a great time. Man. I need to sip up margarita, 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm about to get into these topics 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: with y'all. We gonna have some fun today, some spice 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: in this show today. But you know how we start 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: off every show, what's up with that? Dude? Well, obviously 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not at the crib right now, but I'll be 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: there real like, yeah, yeah, this is only a quick 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: in and out or I got to get some work 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: in celebrate and then at the same time show up 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. So y'all, soo at the bottom Project 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Transition dot org. 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Is it supposed to be this way or something like that. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, please keep sending in those donations, man, I'm seeing 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: it every single day. 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Recurring donations can't lie. 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Are the best because then I know we have your 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: constant support of the community. Help these kids discover and 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: develop that inner power, right and then amplify for the 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: world to see, unlock that potential. So let's make sure 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: we're helping out and any way we can. 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I can't be bad I either where it 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: is today because they all owt here. So I got 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: to make sure I observe this sweat. But don't have 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: my normal never shut up and all that stuff on. 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: But I do have a normal list of topics. Let's 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: get it going with Dion Sanders right now, who said 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: it's personal this weekend against Colorado State. Now, why did 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: he say that? We're head coach? Jay Norvel of Colorado 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: State went out there and start flapping those guns, as 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: they do when you start to see that you're going 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: against some formative opponents. Sometimes you get shook, Sometimes you 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: say what's up. Sometimes you stay silent and just show up. 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: But in this situation, decided to have a little chatter 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: at not even the team, not even Colorado, not even 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: his success, not even some of the things they need 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: to work on. How he's going to exploit them. Noah, 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: he decided to just take a shot at the coach. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Why I take a shot at the coach because the 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: coach right now got all the shine, and not take 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: a shot at coach and get some of that show yourself. 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: You know how it goes cloud chasing as they say. So. 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Jada Vord took the jab at Dion Sanders doing his 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: weekly radio show, criticized Dion for wearing his hat and 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: sunglasses during interviews. You know, you're a baby, a big 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: old ass baby. Where that's where you got to go 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to try to clown somebody. So Norvella mentioned that he 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: removes his hat and glasses when talking to adults, implying 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: a lack of professionalism in Sanders' appearance. All right, so 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: did I called win to dad? It was like, whoa 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: wait a second. I'm gonna make it clear right now, 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: I heard what you said. So our game that was 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna just be a game, fun game, is now a 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: personal game due to those remarks. So then he expressed 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: he was surprised that Jada verb would actually go there 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: and emphasize that his team doesn't usually engage in such 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: discussions and suggesting it was just gonna be a good game, 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: a fun game. But now since you want to talk 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: about me, you know how my player's gonna take that. 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna take that to heart, and it got personal. 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: So we know Deon wears his sunglasses, he wears his hat, 82 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: that's his signature style. You know Tom Landry wears his hat. 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: When you go to Tom Landry say hey this press conference, 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: can you take that hat off? I don't know if 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Tom Landry took the hat off. Never saw Tom Landry 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: without that hat, etc. So Dionne was like, look, quote, 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm a grown man, big dog, and I'm not gonna 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: change who I am in this respect. Like one is 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: so petty to even try to get cosmetic with the aesthetics, 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: but two, well you think you're talking to dogs, like 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: where your stripe's at to tell me what to do 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: and how to do it? So he gonna use that 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: as motivation obviously to get these boys going now Cordon 94 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: to Vegas. He doesn't need this motivation right now, twenty 95 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites, and we know that 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: they are supposed to win this game, and they probably 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna win this game by even more than that. Now 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: that's just how the game goes. So I took from 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: this man, like the two rs in this situation, how 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: ritualistic this sounds, and the respect that is not in 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: this conversation from Jingleville to Deon Sanders. All right, so 102 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: ritualistic just because we all know that the psychological roots 103 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: of football is militaristic, right, and so that culture always 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: shows its face and it tries to reinforce those values 105 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: of that culture to. 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Military on the game. 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: But especially on the sidelines, through the sidelines, through coaches, 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: right through that mindset. Right, all you see is everyone's 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be uniform. Everybody's supposed to go out there 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and show the deepest respect for the game. 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: But what the game. 112 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Has learned over the years is you got to respect 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: the players as well as they're going to exercise uniqueness 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: and be different in how they show respect. So there 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: used to be a day where everybody on the team 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: is saying like yes, coach, no, coach, And it used 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: to be a day where everybody looked the exact same 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: same socks, same uniform. And then you started to see 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: the flare exists. Some guy will wear wristbands right flexing. 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when you look at 121 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: it like, why are you wearing a towel? Take that tower? 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Coach used to say, what you're wearing that towel for? 123 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Take that towel out. You don't need that town what 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: you're doing. 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: It ain't raining out here, Like now, I'm trying to 126 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: look fresh? Is that disrespectful to try to feel good, 127 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: look good, be who you are. 128 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: And he was like, oh no, no, you should see 129 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: to play the game. 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: So they trying to always squeeze you into this box. 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: And then people started to realize the only box that 132 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: really exists is no box. 133 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Right be who you are as long as you get 134 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: it done. 135 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: And that's what Dion is basically wanting to say, and 136 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: he gonna say it when they play Color Round Hill Stay. 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm just going to get it done. It 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how I look doing it. You had a 139 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: gold change or you're gonna say something about that too. Okay, 140 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, oh, the fact that you're wearing your sunglasses, 141 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: you got your hat on, you got your gold chains on. 142 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: Dog, what's my record? 143 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, what the hell you 144 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: talking about? Oh so you looked apart, but you ain't 145 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: the part. That's what we're gonna do right now. So 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: it comes down to how ritualistic the game is. It's 147 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: always an etiquette to football. Football's always been you know, 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: every sport has it. Some sports are really still holding 149 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: on to it. You know, golf really holds on to 150 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: it and kind of looks at your sideways when you're 151 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: not respecting it. Tennis has a little looser culture than golf, 152 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: but still closer to golf than it is the NBA 153 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: than it is football, right, so you can see all 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: that happening, But just so silly to be all caught 155 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: up in the symbolism of somebody's actions when the reality, Hey, 156 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: we in the eat what you kill sport, right, we 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in the result based business. So why are you tripping 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: on how it looks, how it gets matters more? And 159 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: also the respect. Jay is never uttering his lips to 160 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: say this to any coach that he really respects. Say 161 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that again, He's not gonna say this to somebody he 162 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: respects because he'll know how silly this sounds. I respect 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: them because of what they do and what their work is, 164 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: so therefore who cares what they're wearing? Huh. But since 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't respect Dion, all of a sudden he starts looking. 166 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: Can't beat up the record. 167 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: You look at this food, Look at this dude, Look 168 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: at him he can't even take his hat off. Look 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: at this nut, Look at this guy, can't even take 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: his glasses off. That's what you start to do with 171 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: people you don't respect, right, You start slicing them down 172 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: on pettiness because you don't respect them. When you respect them, 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: you overlook those things because you know there's something deeper 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: that they're doing that you actually salute. 175 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: There's nothing deep about what he's doing. 176 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: According to j Novelle, that he doesn't see in Dion 177 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: that he fully respects. Now, he gonna probably try to 178 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: walk all this back after the game. You know, af 179 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: you get to beat down, they're gonna be like, oh, 180 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: it's just hey, it's just how you get it. It 181 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: was just a battle talk and the point being Jay, 182 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: get better, do better, right, and then nobody cares if 183 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: you're wearing a sweater, run out, if you got on 184 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: a polo or not, like all that stuff is stupid. 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: It was like that even in business culture. 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: Remember the day you had to wear your suit to 187 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: work and get your work done then on it. Then 188 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: they gonna start minute, who was it? I think it was, Yeah, 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: I think it was. Facebook was the first one. They 190 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: were like, mayn't wear whatever. I'm give T shirt and khakis. 191 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't here T shirt and jeans show up. Just 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: get us paid, Just get the buddy. So in this situation, 193 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: I think it was silly. And for y'all who was like, ooh, 194 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: he gave him bulletin war material. No, I don't believe 195 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: in bulletin but more bar material. I think they were 196 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna mop this team before. Already they're gonna mop them down. 197 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna say even more. But they were gonna mop 198 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: them regardless because they know they got a gauntlet of. 199 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: A schedule coming up. 200 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: They still got UCLA, still got usc they still got Oregon, 201 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: they still got Utah, they got some real boys eighteen 202 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: on their schedule, I should say. So they got to 203 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: go mop out these teams like this. But why is 204 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: it not bulletin war material? Weren't you going to knock 205 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: the dogs not out of them before these comments? And 206 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: if you were, then how is this bulletin war material? 207 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: But if you weren't, then it was. So anybody ever 208 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: says this is bulletin war material always look at him like, oh, 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: so you weren't gonna go a hunting before. You weren't 210 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: gonna go kill it before. You're just gonna go out 211 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: there and wound it catch that. So yeah, we'll see 212 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: how it goes. Man, I'm looking forward to seeing the 213 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: score of this one. So do you think these kind 214 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: of comments impact the dynamic of sports rivalries and matchups? Like, 215 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: how do you feel you think this is bulletoobar material. 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: You ain't gonta trust me or do you think it's not? 217 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: And how should athletes and coaches react when face with 218 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: criticism in their sports industry? I think Deon took the 219 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: high road. Why does he know everybody gonna take shots 220 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: at him right now? He's just like dude, I've been 221 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: used to this since I was a little kid man, 222 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: since I was an idy biddy. And more importantly, I 223 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: ain't got time to slow down for you hate to 224 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: us what I always say. 225 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: I always say. 226 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't engage with haters, not because they're not worth it. 227 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: It's just because I don't want to give them my energy. 228 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Right I got to give my energy to where I 229 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: want to go, and I don't want to go into 230 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: negativity and I don't want to go where the haters go. 231 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: So Deone Sanders took to high road. We'll see how 232 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: that plays out. Get it that galping? I don't know 233 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: why that as in my head, anybody in LA knows, 234 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: Like damn, I've heard that before. Look right here, I 235 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: think it's right here. Project transition dot org. Project Transition 236 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: dot org leave a recurring donation. Yes, support the community, 237 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: support these kids that are trying to discover their inner power, 238 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: so we can help them amplify it. 239 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: Come on, y'all, let's help them. 240 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: Out recurring donation Project Transition dot org. I don't care 241 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: the amount, the lowest amount possible. Please just support them 242 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: or give a donation or just leave your email. 243 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: That's how we roll. 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about Stefon Diggs who called out a 245 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: reporter who insulted his character because during the media gathering, 246 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Maddie glab Oh, Maddie was out there glibbing right and 247 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: made comments about Stefon Diggs on a hot mic. So 248 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: y'all know what the hot mic is? Like, Oh, the 249 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: microphone's here. You think it's off, but it's hot. It's 250 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: actually on. Uh oh, so you know, I go. It's 251 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: group texting. I tell everybody, if everyone's group text were 252 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: made public, no one would have a job. Everybody fire 253 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: my group texts. What's after already X? What's after X? 254 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Like double X, triple X and didn't I'm twenty six 255 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: X Like whatever, Hey, I'll give a damn Like I'm like, hey, 256 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: I'll show you mine, show me yours. Though you got 257 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: to protect the guilty because goodness. But anyway, she got 258 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: caught slipping on the hot mic. That's what happens when 259 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you show your real uh. She expressed frustrations saying that 260 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: quote there's no control over Stefon Diggs and claims he'll 261 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: look in my face and say, f you this. 262 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: That's how he treats everybody. 263 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I know she didn't mean it like that control, 264 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: but she meant it like that control. Like look at 265 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: how these guys get objectified, Like they become like objects. 266 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying these guys because I used to 267 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: be one of them, but damn they looking at you, 268 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: not like meat, but like inanimate like you just heartless. 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Just hey, do what I need done because I need 270 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: to do it or else Stefan digs, You can't control him. 271 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Who can you control? Can you control your mouth with 272 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: the hot mics around you, Maddie? 273 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: So that's the thing about it. 274 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: So, after the comments were picked up by the hot 275 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: mic got some attention, Maddy Glad issued a course the apology. 276 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: Like I tell my wife all the time, stop saying 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: sorry so much and just stop doing it. Same here, 278 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: But I do not like apologize it. So I actually 279 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: tried to commit as few infractions as possible. I try, 280 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: But the point is stop saying sorry, especially when somebody 281 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: will say that the hot mic cart were I. 282 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: Really feel about this food? Yeah? 283 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: I can't control them. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't 284 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: control them. I'm not sorry I said it. I'm sorry. 285 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I can't control them. Keep it real, right, So she 286 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: took ownership of her remarks. Blah blah blah, especial express regret. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 287 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: explain that Diggs has a unique relationship with the video department, 288 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: which influenced her comments. She tried to go that role 289 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: like are we so cool that I said it like that? 290 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Because it's kind of a little tongue in cheek, a 291 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: little playful, like it's Stefan. Come on, I don't know 292 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: about that, all right. So anyway, Stefan Diggs heard about 293 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the situation. Then he went to x and start xing, 294 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: and he expresses this pleasure with the comments calling him 295 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: hurtful and insulting to his character. Okay, I'm not pushing 296 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: back on that, but Stefan's a big boy. Stefan's been 297 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: through it. Stefan's a beast. 298 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 299 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: This doesn't sound hurtful to me. It's just like, oh, well, 300 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: now I know who you are. 301 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? More like, it doesn't hurt me. 302 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh but duh, because I already know 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: the media, and duh, you just show me your cards 304 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: and duh. Like a lion that roars is not scaring 305 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: me because I'm already like, yo, you're a lion. I 306 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: know you're gonna roar, And hopefully I'm not scared because 307 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm in a safe enough. 308 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Man where you ain't gonna get to me. Right. 309 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: And I hope that him and Maddie weren't close enough 310 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: where this really hurt him. 311 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: I hope not. 312 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I hope he didn't think that about the media, because 313 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: why are they your friends in the first place. Ah. 314 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going too deep with this, but we'll see, 315 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: because I ain't done with this one. Some Diggs asked 316 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: for understanding that athletes are humans too, and sometimes media 317 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: can perpetuate preconceived notions preached there, no, that's real. And 318 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: then as of the article that was published, he had 319 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: no response to her apology, right, but he was just 320 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: saying that her initially her comments were hurtful. 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you this. 322 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Because look, if they hurts the fine they hurts the 323 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: fine who A might have said he didn't get hurt 324 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: by them, But ain't nobody gonna say something about me 325 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: and make me feel like that because I know what 326 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: their job is. I know what they're really trying to do, right, 327 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: So I can't let them in that door because that 328 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: door ain't gonna ever be open. 329 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: That's how I'm thinking. So media has a self interest. 330 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: We got to understand that no matter what side of 331 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: the fence you're on, if you're the viewer watching it 332 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: through the media, if you're the media member, you have 333 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: a self interest admitted, admitted, And if you're the one 334 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: that they're covering, know that who's covering you has a 335 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: self interest. We're gonna start there. And the humans that 336 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: got to broadcast this message that's purported as being objective 337 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: mass communication, we're objectively doing this. It is flawed because 338 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: there's a human doing it right. Let me give it 339 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: to you like this. So the media favors who they like, 340 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: and that's what corrupts media because media will find a 341 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: media darling. You've heard that word before, and when you 342 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: find the media darling, it forces a culture to those 343 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: who are being reported on to either kiss the media's 344 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: ass or you don't get fair reporting. 345 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: That's how the game goes. 346 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: So if you don't want to kiss this ass, you 347 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: won't get the fair reporting. 348 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: That's how the game goes. 349 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: So if your Stefan Diggs, you got to already know 350 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: walking in giving the teacher and apple every single day, 351 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: given the media the fake smile or whatever it may be, Abra, 352 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: they still gonna do what they want to do because 353 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: they want to, as Maddie said, control you. Why do 354 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: they want to control you? They want to make sure 355 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you're giving them what they need so they can get 356 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: what they want. That relationship is never gonna change. So 357 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: what you've got to understand is be yourself. And being 358 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: yourself means you're a big boy, big girl, and that 359 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: means you got big show. That means they gonna throw 360 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: stuff your way and it's gonna bounce off of you. 361 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: Why because it doesn't matter. 362 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: They are going out for themselves and trying to paint 363 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: the picture, and paint your picture that. 364 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: You did this. That's what the media does. 365 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: So in a situation where the media is supposed to 366 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: just say, hey, shine a light, be a megaphone to 367 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: all things. 368 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: What really happens. 369 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: Is they speak louder for things that they like, and 370 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: then they get a little more silent mute for things 371 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: that they don't like. And the worst case scenario is 372 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: when they actually will misperceived things, not lie, but misperceived things. 373 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: Right things are in the balance, they will shift them 374 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: this way to the negative to make sure that it 375 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: lands on you, because that's their self interest in play. 376 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: So we look at media now you can see, ah, 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: this is left leaning, Ah, this is right leaning. 378 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: And then you're like, why are they leaning. 379 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, they're just taking something and balanced and shifting it 380 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to their perception, shifting into where they wanted to go. 381 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: And in situations like this, they just get caught slipping, right, 382 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: She just got caught slipped. She's basically like, we can't 383 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: get him to do what we want him to do. 384 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: We can't get him to get in here anytime. You know, 385 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: Oh really, because he's a person. Can they get you 386 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: anytime cause your news outlet, anytime they want twenty four 387 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: to seven, just get you. 388 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: Wherever you want to go? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm 389 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: getting paid. 390 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, there's pushback, right because you're a real person. 391 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: Same with him. 392 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: And that's what's crazy. When you show him your real colors, 393 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully you did from day one. If you show 394 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: them your real colors, then they're gonna be like, oh, 395 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: excuse me, that's who you are. That's what it's about, right, No, 396 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: it's a relationship. I'm not doing everything. My friends call 397 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: me all the time. No, I ain't doing all that. 398 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: I ain't hanging all the time. No, I ain't going 399 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: to Soho house tonight again. 400 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: Come oh excuse me. 401 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden they got something to 402 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: say about it. Come on, man, it's a real relationship. 403 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: I was blessed not because the media took care of 404 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: me and I was the media darling. 405 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: All that happened, you know. 406 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: How it happened because I was myself. So from hello, I'll 407 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: say yes, yes, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah yeah. 408 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: But it was all done from me. So therefore, when 409 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: you push back at me, all right, if I don't 410 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: want to do something and you try to make me 411 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: feel bad for not wanting to do it. 412 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: Why do I feel bad I didn't want to do it. 413 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: I've taken care. 414 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: So I got a little pushback for Stefan in terms 415 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of look I think he's pouring a syrup on it 416 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: right now, just so he can get You know, you 417 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: get the favor right now, you get the sympathy card. 418 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: I get it because I know you ain't really hurt 419 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: for I hope. But point being, it does reset like 420 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: the tone of the media. Hey, calm down, if you 421 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: pour a little extra syrup on this. But the real 422 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: is se Fa man, just keep balling it. You can't 423 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: please all these people, so why you even trying? And 424 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: to Maddie, we already know. Ain't nobody stupid? All these smiles. 425 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: You ever see a reporter when they do the locker 426 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: room interviews, that's how you know how fake this stuff is. 427 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: They do the locker room interview, watch every single time 428 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: at the same time. So Stefan, amazing game, one hundred 429 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: plus receiving yards. Just tell me how you felt out 430 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: there today, And soon they do the mic. They go 431 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: like this, he ain't even said nothing like this, yeah, 432 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, every three words. And you know what, if 433 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: you were really talking to a person, you'd be like, man, 434 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: amazing gang, look great out there. I know you're prepared. 435 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: It showed on the field. Tell me how you felt 436 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: and you're just listen, but you know what you're doing 437 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: all this? Yeah, we're really cool. Oh my god, every 438 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: word Cliffhanger. 439 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Again, I love this guy, and man, we need. 440 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: To just burst that bubble and hopefully then things that 441 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: get realer, things that get better. All right, So you 442 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: tell me what's your response to this story with Maddie 443 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: glab in the media. And then also, obviously she's in 444 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the wrong, but she's also in the right because she 445 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: finally said the real but she said the real and 446 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: got caught saying it, so that apology missed me with that. 447 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: And how do you think we could get better relationships, better, 448 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: more respectful relationships, constructive criticism, relationships in the media and 449 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: as players, because I think, hey, media has a necessary job. 450 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Look I'm in the media still, but the point is 451 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: na miss me with the bs from both sides, like 452 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: the players. Yeah, I ain't gotta fake it, and then 453 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: media stop. It shouldn't even take a hot mic to 454 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: expose you, because the hot bikes should just show more 455 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: of what we already know of you. It should be 456 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: who you already are. But when it exposes you, that 457 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: lets you know how this whole thing is fake. Oh man, 458 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Project transition dot org Yep, I'm gonna say it every 459 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: single segment. Why because it matters all the time. Man, 460 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: help these kids develop and discover that inner power. We 461 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: all got the inner power. Forget what's going on on 462 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: the outside world. You want it out there, go in 463 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: here and get it. That's where the God is, right, 464 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: So we help these kids discover that inner power and 465 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: then amplify it for the world to see, so they 466 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: could unlock their true potential. Come on, man, got to 467 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: be and supported that. So leave your email and if 468 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: you are so inclined, leave a recurring donation right there, 469 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: or one time donation to support the itdy biddies in 470 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: the community. All right, let's talk about Stephen A. Smith 471 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: how he supported Shannon Sharp in his departure from Undisputed 472 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: and FS one. Now, as it was reported worldwide that 473 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp reached a buyout and left FS one Undisputed, right, 474 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: and it was perceived as oh, Shannon Sharp skip baylest 475 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: no more, Shannon is done with it, fed up, whatever 476 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: it may be. That's how it was initially reported, and 477 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: now it's being reported differently. I've been walking you guys 478 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: through these steps of this situation. 479 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Really just for educational purposes. 480 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, all parties involved, I love, But like I 481 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: tell you, the people I love the most of the 482 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: people I talk about the most because those are the 483 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: people I want to give energy to. And I always 484 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: will side on truth right with my friends. Ask them 485 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: these guys, ask them, I'm gonna tell the truth. So 486 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: when I first read the reports, I thought it was 487 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: a little peculiar that one day that Shannon Sharp would 488 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: leave FS one undisputed right after the NBA Finals ends. 489 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: I was like, but you know me, I ain't gonna 490 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: never speak out a term, do my homework, et cetera. 491 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I protected guilty, but at the same time, just like, 492 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: that's just not how the game goes now whatever I'm 493 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: learning a new part of the game or I'm right, 494 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: that's how the game goes. 495 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: Okay. So now Stephen A. 496 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: Smith has said, quote unquote that Shannon Sharp was pushed 497 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: out of FS one and undisputed. So let's talk through 498 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: this because they're now together on First Take. The new 499 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: era of First Take has Shannon and Stephen A. Smith 500 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: every Monday and Tuesday. Right, So initially we all thought 501 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: that he left undisputed on. 502 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: His own terms. 503 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: After a bunch of those on air clashes that we saw. 504 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: Everybody saw the writing on the wall to some degree, Like, 505 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is affect in this show to 506 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: some degree because y'all don't seem like y'all is as 507 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: happy as you used to be. 508 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, Stephen A. 509 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: Smith kind of cleared this up, not totally, but he 510 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: cleared it up and gave a different perspective when he 511 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: went on Joe Butten's podcast. 512 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: All right, so Steven A. Smith aliss that Shannon Sharp. 513 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: Was pushed out, undisputed by Skip Bayless. Yeah, he claimed 514 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: that Sharp didn't want to leave and was informed that 515 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: his services were no longer be needed. So he mentioned 516 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: that it's Shannon Sharp's story to tell, but he felt 517 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: compared to share what he knows and consider it as facts. Okay, 518 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: let mean, Paul's right here. I'm in the same boat 519 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: as Stephen A. Smith in some respect, Like this is 520 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Shannon's story to TEO help fully, but let's not dance 521 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: around the fact that there's something to tell, something to share, 522 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: but it's not mine to share. You know. It's kind 523 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: of like like in high school when you see somebody 524 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: and you see the homeboy and you're like oh. 525 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: You see the girl. 526 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Remember those days when you'd be like, ooh, I'm gonna 527 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: tell them that they cheated And then you're like, yeah, 528 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: that's not for me to tell, but it is for 529 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: me to tell. But every time you tell it, what 530 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: happens they blow up on you. You'd be like, why 531 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: you mad at me? I'm just telling you what I 532 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: saw or I heard. May be mad at you, right, 533 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: and they still with him and you be like, why 534 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: do that? So it kind of feels a little bit 535 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: like that. But let's get back on track with this, 536 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: because this. 537 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: Is deep, y'all. 538 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: So he talked about the situation and he related it 539 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: to his experience back in two thousand and nine when 540 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: he was let go right, emphasizing the understandings that he 541 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: had of feeling like your career was going to die. 542 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: So you remember when Stephen A. 543 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Smith was like go a BYuT ESPN and he felt 544 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: like he needed to throw them a life raft. And 545 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: that's why he threw Shanning this life raft because he's 546 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: been in that position before. But when it happened to 547 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: him in two thousand and nine, there was no Stephen A. 548 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Smith big brow on the block to look out for him. 549 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: So he said, I'm gonna look out for Shannon. 550 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Ah. And it's interesting because I caught winto this, not 551 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: only because when it first happened, I was like, okay, 552 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: cause I know how I left Fox in that FS one, 553 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: and I know how they'll put forth a lot of 554 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: effort to keep you if they want to keep you, 555 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: And they put forth a. 556 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: Lot of effort. I'm not even Shannon. 557 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they was, you know, past contract, We 558 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: still talking, still get paid, still building stuff, still talking 559 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: through stuff. Like I'm like, so, I'm like, yours is. 560 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, and you way bigger 561 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: than me, So I like, you ain't lying to me, 562 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna be calling you no liar. So 563 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: that's how that started off. And then Stephen A. Smith 564 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of now is pushing that back. He says, here's 565 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: some quotes to give you some real clarity on the situation. 566 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: He says, I'm telling you he was pushed out is fact. 567 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: They can deny it. I can promise you that he 568 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: was pushed out. Okay, So now you start looking back 569 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: and you remember that last episode how emotional Shannon was, 570 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: and at that time I thought, skip people were saying 571 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Skipp was being emotional. I was like, I don't see it, 572 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: but whatever I see somebody who was like, thank you 573 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: for your services. You were cool man hogh Land you 574 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: when I see you. But Shannon was like, you know really, 575 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: like you know why because youven't want that to happen. 576 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: You know what anger is, and he wasn't angry. But 577 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: this is like the deeper emotions, right, angry, frustration, etc. 578 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Like frustrations here that angry is another level. It's having 579 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: to accept the reality that you don't desire. 580 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: That's where the anger comes from. Right. 581 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: You get mad because this ain't what I want, right, 582 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: and then you get emotional because this is not. 583 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: What I want. And that's what we saw on full display. 584 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: Right. So they both expressed their appreciation for each other, 585 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: but it was different levels of emotions. Now you can 586 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: see behind the scenes what was going on. Some of 587 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the pushback and the force out pushed out. According to 588 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith, that makes that all crystallize for us, right, 589 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: And there's another part of it. Another quote from stephen 590 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: A says, but then again that's his story to tell. 591 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what I know, and I'm giving 592 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: you facts I saw me from the standpoint of I 593 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: was let go in two thousand and nine and left 594 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: for dead. Hopefully Shannon Sharp will detail what really went 595 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: down soon. 596 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: I tell you all the time, man, I'm not a hater. 597 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: I just tell the truth too early, and I always 598 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: will to tell the truth. So if it's too early, 599 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: it's too early. Now they got me in any trouble. 600 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Nobody hates me, And if they do hate me, I 601 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: don't notice and don't care or don't recognize you much 602 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: because I don't hate. I can't you know, you can't 603 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: mix me with hate. And didn't say that I'm feel 604 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: in love right because then I got some hate in me, right. 605 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: But I don't hate on anybody. I just tell the 606 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: truth too early. 607 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: In this situation, I didn't want to. 608 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Fully go there because I didn't fully get the story 609 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: from those involved. Now I've talked to people involved in 610 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: this story, absolutely, but I felt that. 611 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: They were speaking they were speaking. 612 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: In chunks, they were speaking in parcels and pieces. 613 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: They were speaking in slices, not the whole loaf. 614 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: And I was gonna allow them to serve it up 615 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: the way that they wanted to serve it up, because 616 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: I got to protect the guilty. But it's getting there. 617 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: You can see it's coming. It's coming down because Stephen 618 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: a is even I think Burger with Shannon Stephen they 619 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: are like, hey man, just let it go. I'm just 620 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: telling me how it is, you know, and whatever that may be. Now, 621 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you the how and why of this situation. 622 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Because I am privy to some of this knowledge. How 623 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: and why did this go down? They come to Shannon, 624 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: this isn't working out. Now, I know how these conversations go. 625 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: This isn't working out. You guys don't seem to be 626 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: getting along on air as much and. 627 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: As as you used to. 628 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, that's well, the chemistry looks 629 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: affected right now. You guys don't like each other as much. 630 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: We're thinking. Now you can be like, what what do 631 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: you mean? Like this? My dog, I ain't tripping. We 632 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: don't agree on everything. We don't disagree on everything. It 633 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: is what it is, right. And then, because they already 634 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: have the end in mind, they already know what they want, 635 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: they already know what they desire, there's nothing you can 636 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: really say to change that narrative because they will only 637 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: come to you with that narrative when they already know 638 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: how they want this to go down. So you think 639 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: about this situation and you look at and you're like, ah, 640 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say to change this outcome. And 641 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: that's how they came at Shannon. They came at Shannon 642 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: just like that. What do they have as evidence? What 643 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: do they have as ammunition? And receipts. 644 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: Tomorrow? 645 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Hambling situation missing work the next day? And you know, 646 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: at that time, I think Shannon may have felt that 647 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: that was a flex, liked, I don't feel this. 648 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: Twitter streets are running. 649 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Wild, Skip, Oh my god, what are you doing and 650 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: writing those tweets? Those are so insensitive. I ain't going 651 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: to work. This is my show too. I ain't going 652 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: to work. And I swear to y'all without knowing, but 653 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I swear to y'all. That was the moment that Skip 654 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he ain't coming to work. We can 655 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: agree or disagree. You not coming to work. Why you're 656 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: not coming to work? Why you feel so fully loaded, 657 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: so emotional? Oh, because it happened to your brother and 658 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: he was paralyzed on the field. 659 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: For a moment, I hear you, or. 660 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: As Skip you said many times on air, or is 661 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: it because you be listening to that Twitter? As he 662 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: used to say, you're listening to your Twitter, and that 663 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Twitter got you gassed up, thinking that you something that 664 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: you're not or feeling something that you ain't. I swear 665 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: that was the moment. That's my conjecture, but that's what 666 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: I believe. So Shannon does the flex like, this is 667 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: my show too, and Skipps was like, he ain't come 668 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: to work, so then you can go upstairs. And now 669 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: upstairs ain't even tripper upstairs is not even caring about 670 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. Long the raiders are good, y'all out there 671 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: doing what y'all do. Oh you got it? Oh you 672 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't come to work? Oh okay, well we understand that. 673 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Shannon oh Lyne too. Skip is like, oh he ain't 674 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: coming to work because of my tweets a disagreement. Y'all 675 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna allow that. And they already on Skip side because 676 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Skip helped FS one become FS one. He was day one. 677 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: Nobody in him is Colin day one. And that flex 678 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: went sour. You got the Tom Brady incident. The all 679 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can see Skip. Now this is 680 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: why probably Skip is not super flexing. Got the Tom 681 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Brady incident because he's like, Dopp, I mean the workings 682 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: of getting you out of here, right, Memphis Lakers incident, 683 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: timeline all over the place. But these are the things 684 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: that stick out. Kwame Brown, Kwame putting fire to these 685 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: cats and lighten them up. Skip, like I told you, 686 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: I told you this is not gonna go Well, this 687 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: ain't it in all those situations. So then next thing 688 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, boom, you got a moment where upstairs and 689 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: Skip make it two versus one. And those two are 690 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: more powerful than you on this show. So what do 691 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: they do? They come to Shannon, here's a buyout. We'll 692 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: pay you to a degree. I don't know to what degree, 693 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: maybe one hundred percent, but we'll pay you to go away. 694 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: And in the process of paying you to go away, 695 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: guess what we'll do. 696 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: We'll hook you up. 697 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: And I told you all this because I know how 698 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: they do their podcast over there, they have ownership of them. 699 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: We'll give you a club, says Shape. Now what you're 700 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna give us, don't you say anything about it? This Well, 701 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because now Steven A is applying 702 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: that pressure to say something about this. But now you 703 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: see they talk about it on first take, like you know, 704 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: they just say, Hey, the other show they talk about 705 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: skip whatever, they ain't tripping. They laughing it off. Undisputed 706 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: FS one. They scrub out Shannon Shannon and is not 707 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: a part of this show we airs. Richard Sherman, you 708 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: say Shannon's name in the live taping. I guess what's 709 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna happen when we reair. He gone, it's gonna be interesting. 710 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: So we got some stuff here. Shannon conceded some things 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: and received some things. 712 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: In any counter, in any negotiation, you give and you get. 713 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: What did he get? He got paid to go away? 714 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: What did he get? He also got club say shape? 715 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: What did he give? 716 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: That's gonna be interesting to see what happens. So how 717 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: do y'all think this all played out? 718 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: Man? 719 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: Do y'all like Steven? They said he got pushed out? 720 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: Do you agree? Could Steven Ay be wrong? Could I 721 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: be wrong? Could everybody be reading the t v's wrong 722 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: or what? And also, what do you think about this 723 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: decision to share or not to share all the details 724 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: of this from Shannon Sharp? What do you think this 725 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: does to his public image? And what do you think 726 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: this does to his career in terms of going forward, 727 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Like Shannon obviously is keeping this close to the vest, 728 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: but obviously we see something, we smell something, we know something. 729 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: Is he gonna tell us everything? Tell me what you 730 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: guys think in these comments. Man, you guys been following 731 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: this in detail with me. I've been saying, this is 732 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: how it is gonna play out, how it's gonna go. 733 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: We'll see how far Shannon goes with it, oh Man. 734 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: Project Transition dot org. Leave your email. That's it. Leave 735 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: your email. Just scroll all the way down. First of all, 736 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: check out the work we're doing in the community. Then 737 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: get to the bottom blank. I'm gonna leave my email. 738 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: I like Marshall's, I support this foundation. I support what 739 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: they're doing in the community. Or leave a donation. Recurring 740 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: donations are the best. Yes, and we know you support 741 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: the community. Support these kids who are developing their inner 742 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: power so they can put it on display for the 743 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: world to see. 744 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Amplify it. 745 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Right, that's what we're doing over here, Product Transition. All right, 746 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about what they're doing in the UFC, because 747 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: y'all saw UFC two ninety three. We saw where Sean 748 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: Strickland beat israel I just sign you come on, big dog. 749 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: That's two losses in the last three. I digress. They 750 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: broke gate records for an indoor event in the continent 751 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: in Australia, so they out there killing it. UFC is 752 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: still going strong. But John mac to see fought at 753 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: the UFC, but put his check, his paycheck on display. 754 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: I ain't ain't y'all want to look at his paycheck. Okay, 755 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. We know the deductions. Everybody get 756 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: a paycheck and we see damn half of it going 757 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: on these deductions. Right, So he faced some significant deductions 758 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: from his potential purse that include the airfare for his cornermen. 759 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: Y'all, oh, Australia, I won't give it. 760 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: Damn if it's co I don't care if you're in 761 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: the bathroom going to Australia. 762 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: Gonna cost it. 763 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: Event based medical expenses, visa fee, forty five percent foreign 764 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: federal tax for fighting in Australia. So it's total deductions 765 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: and taxes amounted to twenty nine thousand plus out of 766 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: a potential person fifty eight thousand dollars, which is over 767 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: half of his gross show pers Now that's before you 768 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: talk about the. 769 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: Management fees, agent fees. 770 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: Post fight, medical expenses, et cetera. So you really fighting, 771 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: and you're probably bringing home thirty twenty thirty percent of it, 772 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: probably thirty percent, but goddamn. All right, So all this 773 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: stuff adds up to what the conversation has always been 774 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: about the UFC in particular, Right, how do you address. 775 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: The financial challenges these fighters face? 776 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: All right? And it's inherent part of this sports model 777 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: and its structure, Like it's just been a part of it. 778 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: We've seen everybody from John Joe on down talk about 779 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: and some guys just defunk, just just leave because they're 780 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: like the money is not here. And I'm not here 781 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: to say, oh, y'all should pay them more or not, 782 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: because look, it's a choice not to fight in the UFC. 783 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: You can work anywhere. You can't go to McDonald's combat. 784 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: That's all y'all paying is fifteen dollars an dollars Like 785 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: kay pur king right there, dog, like you know what 786 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, so I get that part. I am 787 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: still a common man in terms of understanding that sometimes 788 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: Cat's be getting real out of character. You know, I'm like, oh, 789 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the WNBA all the time. 790 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: I report it. I give you my opinion. 791 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: But look, nobody told you got to play basketball professionally 792 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: if you don't like it. 793 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: But it's unfair. 794 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: If you say, damn, you're giving them a whole year 795 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: and y'all want you may compare, what's the fairness? 796 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: There is another model just like it. 797 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: The only difference is they get way, way, way more 798 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: than you, right, and you're like, and we got the 799 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: same stuff going on, kind of like yo. So that's 800 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: where you start seeing it uneven and this situation. What 801 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: do you compare the UFC to boxing? I guess you 802 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: could say that. But combat sports has always and will 803 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: always grab the lowest rung in terms of participants. Yes, 804 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: they will grab the lowest rung of participants in terms 805 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: of their choices. Basically, there's an athletic pyramid. In my belief, 806 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: everyone in this world wants to be a basketball player. 807 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: Start at the top. Can't be a basketball player. 808 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a fall down football player, right, and you 809 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: can't be a football player. Then you fall down and 810 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: you say baseball player, can't be a baseball player. Then 811 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: you get into a baseball player. I think baseball player, golfer, 812 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: tennis same level. Why are they lower than football and basketball? 813 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: Simple? 814 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: The money at the top in basketball, with the amount 815 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: of time necessary to get that money, is why basketball 816 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: is at the top. Not only is it just the 817 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: greatest display of athleticism. You know, you got him an 818 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: athlete play basketball. Don't give a damn moment that you're 819 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: talking about. You don't have to be that same athlete 820 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: to play all positions in football, but in basketball, yeah, 821 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: you better be an athlete, right, even y'all, Yokis is 822 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: not an athlete seven feet that can g actually get 823 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: up and down the court and shoot three pointers, that 824 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: can move latterly seven feet again, now remember that part. 825 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: He ain't six one, he's seven feet. He moved a 826 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: little enough, so I'll call that an athlete. But it's 827 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: basically how much I get paid, how much I got 828 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: to work for it. Oh see, this is why football 829 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: comes in there, because football players get paid a lot 830 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: of money. Now, I mean seventeen weeks interesting baseball, hundred 831 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: sixty two games? Good lord, golf wind do they have 832 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: off season? They don't. They live in RVs and private jets, Tennis. 833 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: Same thing. 834 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh I'm in Australia, No, I'm in France, know all, 835 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm in the US. That sounds great until you gotta 836 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: do it. Wear your ass at right, But it's still lucrative. 837 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: All of them are lucrative. All of these are great. 838 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: But what's up with the UFC not being as lucrative? 839 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Right in terms of these guys getting the money? So 840 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: you go to set records, record break and fight and 841 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you won. Then you look 842 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: at your check, doesn't feel like you're winning. And that's 843 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: the conversation. So everyone always says, unionize it. Everyone always 844 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: says they're just put a union together. But it's easier 845 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: said than done to put a union together and then 846 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: have a union that is respected by the opposing side. 847 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: In this situation, UFC brass Why Because for a union 848 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: to be effective, for it to exercise his strength, what 849 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: does it have to do? It needs a war chest. 850 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: Without a war chest, it won't happen. So if you 851 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: ain't got enough money to fight me, how are you flexing? Yeah? 852 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: I hear you. If I don't want to agree. 853 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: With you, if I don't want to do that, guess 854 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, man, move Just what you're gonna do? 855 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: How you gonna enforce it right, just like your real life. 856 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: You and I got an issue, how do I enforce it? 857 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: I assume you right, But if you got so much money, 858 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: you just drag it out. Of course, how am I 859 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna win? 860 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: Good luck? 861 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: And in this situation, it's on your own volition. No 862 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: one told you to sign up for UFC, so I 863 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: can see both sides of this situation. So it's interesting 864 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: because combat sports grabs participants the dirtiest of the dirty, 865 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, the dirtiest, like the lowest, Like everybody I 866 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: know growing up, like they all tried to go basketball, 867 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: then football, then all right, let me try some baseball. 868 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: Nobody walked into like where the boxing gym, Matt Dogar. 869 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: Nobody's like, we didn't even have UFC when I was 870 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: growing up like that, but still, hey, look we're that wrestling, 871 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: mat jiu jitsu, mixed up martial arts. 872 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: Nobody doing that. 873 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: And then when you do that, they got you cause 874 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, they know you have very few, if no 875 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: choices left. This is what you're doing. This is how 876 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your money, your heyday. And then you're 877 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: trying to get your payday and your heyday, and they're 878 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: like no way get what we give you, and I 879 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: just don't see a way out. I'm trying to give 880 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: it real way. You guys, tell me if you see 881 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: a way out, because I see the financial challenges all 882 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: lace in this dynamic. So think about it. What do 883 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: you suggest as a fix? If there is a fix, 884 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: and are there consequences to this? Are they just gonna 885 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: keep saying next man up, next woman up? You know 886 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: that's one way that UFC deals with it. You don't 887 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: like it, Okay, that's we're not forcing us. We're not 888 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: forcing our league on you. You don't have to do it. 889 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: Are they just gonna keep saying next man up? Or 890 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: is there gonna be a way where there's gonna be 891 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: a huge pay bumping, Because as much as I want 892 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: to feel bad for them, I'm also like, you raise 893 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: your hand to do that knowing what that gives you 894 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: in returns. So it's gonna be in CC what the 895 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: UFC does, especially with this merger, with now you got 896 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: the WWE and UFC together, will that add to what 897 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: these players and what these contestants are getting so beat 898 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: that up in the comments. Let me know if there's 899 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: a fix. If not, there's no fix. Just don't do it. 900 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: If you don't do it, what are you gonna do? 901 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: All right, let's fock up some commic, y'all, fuck up 902 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: some comics. Yeah, get this going, all right, let's get 903 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: this crack a lock of what we talked about yesterday. 904 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: RG three mm the epitome of pure narcissism. RG three 905 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: could have just said verbatim that Zach Wilson was their option, 906 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: but he didn't say that at all. No one made 907 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: up those rumors. Even ESPN labeled the video as RG 908 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: three putting his name out there. 909 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 2: MM, see what I'm saying. 910 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I read the story and I was talking 911 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: about it, even though I was like RG three, one, 912 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: why you care about this dude retweeting the video about 913 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: you like that? Two, he's retweeting what you said, even 914 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: though they chopped it up. So that's why I understood. 915 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: It's like, maybe they took you out of context. But three, Hey, man, 916 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: you can explicitly say stuff. That's why I don't care 917 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: when people be coming to me like, dog, do you 918 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: said that? You said that on that subject, I'm like, yeah, 919 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: you're not scared of what they're gonna say about it. 920 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: I was like why I'm scared. 921 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: I believe it, you know, so I GUARDI three really 922 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: wanted to kind of like dance around the fact that 923 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: he kind of wanted to be considered, maybe not realistically 924 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: but just egotistically, Like just think about me, and somebody 925 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: thought about you. They cut you up, and they put 926 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: you out there for them. Tweets Zack Wilson is going 927 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: to either sink or swim. Now you think, imagine waking 928 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: up in your Zach Wilson, who do you play this weekend? 929 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? How they look last weekend? Unbeatable? Best defense ever? 930 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: Right, Zach. Here's my advice to Zach. 931 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: Stop being so damn nice bro, like you know, and 932 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about nice like in interviews all that 933 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: he seemed like a really cool dude. Stop being so 934 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: nice on that field. That dog got it y. I'll 935 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: tell all my kids all the time. Look, be their 936 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: friends before and after the game. During the game, be 937 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: nice by beating they button. That's how you show how 938 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: nice you are, show your friends how what you care about? 939 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: Whooping them All right, they're. 940 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: Gonna be your friends after and if not, they weren't 941 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: your friends before. If it takes you to be nice 942 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: to them, Zach. Let that dog out man start barking 943 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: and biting out there. All right, here's another one fox blocking. 944 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm on both sides of the coin person too. I'll 945 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: complain for five minutes about what so and so did, 946 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: and then say, but to their point. I just try 947 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: to keep perspective because the odds are I'll see something 948 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: sometimes the same way they did. 949 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 2: Hopefully I learned from the first time. 950 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: It allows me to be more understanding of the other 951 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: side's perspective before it happens. Saves a lot of arguments. 952 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: Works amazing and understanding. My wife, I tell you all 953 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: the time, I'm the wrong dude. If you're gonna come 954 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: to thinking it's absolute, I'm the wrong dude. If you're 955 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 1: gonna come too, Tom a dog, It's only one side 956 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: to the conversation. 957 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: Dog. 958 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: Any argument you've ever been in, it ain't one hundred 959 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: percent you're right, it's ninety some percent sometimes whatever percent 960 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: it is, the other side has something to offer. Stop 961 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: thinking so narcissistically that you got all the answers. 962 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: So that's why I talk in this way. 963 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: I talk of a balanced approach with perspective because it's 964 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: not that difficult. The only time he left was in 965 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: free agency. That must be the time he's talking about, 966 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: because anything else he was either cut or let go. 967 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: That's Fox blocking right there. Yep, be real all right. 968 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: And we got a turf versus grass. I remember back 969 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and I went down to the field 970 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: that the old veterans stayum to walk on into surface 971 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: was terrible. I'm glad that turf fields have come a 972 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: long way since then, very very different right now, A 973 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: long way. Don't even think about those astro turf. Now, 974 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: this thing is soft grass blades. I got turf in 975 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: my house. Let me play on that thing, soft glass blade. 976 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: I always got the little black pebbles though in there, 977 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: whatever that is. But the point is it's come a 978 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: long way from there. The only reason I would like 979 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: to see grass is to see players get dirty. 980 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: Just ask another cool visual to the game. I give 981 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: you that. 982 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: Well, we could make turf spray paint the turf with 983 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: some some brown and then it just rubs off on 984 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: the players uniform. I don't know. Doesn't the NFL priests 985 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: that player safety is number one? Why not just let 986 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: the players just have this one? From a public perception, standpoint, 987 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: you will win, and that does have value. 988 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but all the players don't want grass. 989 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: I don't. 990 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 2: If they ask me, I'll be the only one. We 991 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 2: have two thous yes. 992 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: Anyone else No, Marcella's wiley, No, I want no damn grass. 993 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 2: Grass. 994 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: Grass gets chopped up, turns the dirt fast. 995 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: You got divids everywhere. It's never even h It's soft 996 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: and spongy. Miss me. 997 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: To me, it's simple, I'm gonna get hurt on grass 998 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: and get hurt on turfs. I get hurt more on 999 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: grass that I mean, more on turfs than I do 1000 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: on grass. Okay, I'll hear you, but I play way 1001 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: better on turf than I do on grass. So therefore 1002 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: performance matters more than this injury rake bump You're gonna 1003 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: get injury rape bump. 1004 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: Makes no sense to me? 1005 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: Why? Because I'm gonna get hurt regardless of the injury 1006 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: rake bump. But can I play better so I can 1007 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: get paid better? So even when I'm getting hurt like 1008 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers right now, I'm still making thirty eight million dollars. Hurt. 1009 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: You don't get thirty eight million dollars if you don't 1010 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: play well. So I want to play the best, have 1011 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: the best opportunity, best support, best wishing to go out 1012 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 1: there and do it. Achilles heartbreak. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, 1013 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: he'll be back, won't be the same, partly due to age. However, 1014 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: we'll see him on the field again. Yeah, mobility may 1015 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: suffer a little bit. I don't know. Dan Marino got 1016 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: the Achilles, but he couldn't move before the Achilles. But 1017 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers couldn't move. He wasn't moving as much. Just 1018 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: makes his other sentence sense. Its heightened. He's gonna be 1019 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: a better quarterback in terms of awareness because he won't 1020 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: be the same maybe in terms of mobility. But the 1021 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 1: way these cats are responding to Achilles now gold with Kevin. 1022 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: Durant Win, I know they don't line one together. 1023 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 1: You'll be just fine. He just ain't got no foot 1024 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: no more. Oh man, I am why not read that? 1025 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: It's so stupid out here, all right, y'all know how 1026 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: we finish every show. What a wily is? 1027 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 2: The wy is them? 1028 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you lied to me. 1029 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: You died in me, straight up, You lied to me. 1030 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: You died of me. 1031 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: And I've lie a lot of times in my life 1032 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: and it's crazy, but When someone lies to you, they 1033 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: do die to you. You know why that trust is 1034 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: a lifeline. Here's how trust is to me. You ever 1035 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: been driving on the street and you're in the far 1036 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: left lane, fast lane, let's just say, but on the street, 1037 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: not a highway, and you look right next to you, 1038 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: and the next lane over is somebody going to exact 1039 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: place where you just left, same direction you just left right. 1040 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: So we're doing this. 1041 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: N near near right, and you look, and you know 1042 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: what trust is the fact that they gonna stay in 1043 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: their lane, the fact that I'm gonna stay in my lane. 1044 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: And there's this unwritten, unspoken trust you stay over there 1045 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: because you fly in this way fifty five miles an hour. 1046 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: I stay in this lane going this way fifty five 1047 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: miles an hour. It's going fast on the street, right. 1048 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: So then what happens when that's broken? When that trust 1049 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: is broken? Same thing to me with lying. I remember 1050 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: Andre Driek one thousands said two things I hate live 1051 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: either make my blood boil, boel constricted around my soul 1052 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: that they boil when you lie to somebody, dog, they 1053 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: just don't trust you're gonna stay in that lane no more. 1054 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: And then look how that's gonna affect how they roll, 1055 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: how they drive, how you roll, how you drive, because 1056 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: imagine if you don't know, if that person is just 1057 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna do what they do. So much of our world's 1058 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: existence is built on just a basic, unspoken trust. 1059 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 2: And when that's violated. M M, you're dead. Brother. 1060 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: You may be on life support, and you may try 1061 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: to resuss the thing. You may try, but you did. 1062 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: You got to do so much to revive that relationship, 1063 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: revives so much to stop lying. 1064 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: Now, why don't we stop lying? Because we don't like 1065 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 2: the outcomes. 1066 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: This lie may avoid that, that quick little white lie 1067 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: may avoid me crashing. 1068 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: That's why we lie. 1069 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: We lie because we're like, oh, if I just keep riding, 1070 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: if I keep telling them, if I did the real bath, 1071 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: it's a rap. So you get into that seat situation. 1072 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: But we got to get into a place where we 1073 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: keep our trust. So remember out there man listening to people. Now, 1074 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: no one's perfect, But you lie to me, You died 1075 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: in me, and I don't want you to die in me. 1076 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: But I've been in the situations before where people are 1077 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: lied to me. Matter of fact, on this show today, 1078 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy Man talking through situations where you know people 1079 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: have lied to you. You're like, why are you lying up? 1080 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: Why you ain't even keep it real? Come on, man, 1081 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you tell it, but why are you 1082 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: lying to me? Like? 1083 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 2: I don't need this? So that's how the game goes. 1084 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: So just keep the trust going between all of us, right, 1085 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: and let's just keep it as honest as possible. 1086 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 2: Because if you lie to me, you died to me. 1087 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: All Right, y'all got to do it. For More to It, 1088 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: check the show notes for all the information on our 1089 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: topics today today. Want to keep the conversation going, Let's talk. 1090 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Find me on all socials at Marcels. Wiley More Too 1091 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: is a production of Damn Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment 1092 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: and Workhouse Media. 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