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Speaker 1: On today's episode College Football Role Playing three point zero.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say what I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy?

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Ato Steak? Is

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Speaker 1: that woo whoo? And Don and Tye welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Salaburber boys and girls. My name is ty Hill

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Speaker 1: and Brandt, that fine gentleman over there is always you

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Speaker 1: know him well, wearing a collared shirt today for this

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Speaker 1: regal occasion, the one, the only Dan Rubistein sir, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How are you forgive me for trying to bring a

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Speaker 2: little bit of class to this operation? Forgive me for

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Speaker 2: trying to be a little bit of a grown up

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Speaker 2: while you're sitting there wearing what a Nicholas Caged novelty

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Speaker 2: t shirt tie.

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Speaker 1: Correct, you're in your fifth.

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Speaker 2: Decade of life and this is who you are, So

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Speaker 2: forgive me for trying to bo le out this operation

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of dignity.

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Speaker 1: Well, Dan, it's funny you should mention that we will

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Speaker 1: get to how much dignity you bring to today's equation

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Speaker 1: on the show. I'm ty He's Dan, go to verballers

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Speaker 1: smash a subscribe button over on YouTube. So today's episode

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit weird. Great. I said

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Speaker 1: this many many moons ago. But when this fine show

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Speaker 1: was bequeathed to us by the late great Gertrude s Verbal, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the intention was always that it would remain at least

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Speaker 1: partially theater of the mind Dan. Of course, of course

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Speaker 1: this is the weirdest show that we do. You think,

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Speaker 1: so I think this is the weirdest one that we do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it may not be for everyone, no hard feelings if

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Speaker 1: you are in that sliminarity. But hopefully if I've done

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Speaker 1: this correctly, what it will do is at least make

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Speaker 1: you think, make you think, make you want to pause

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Speaker 1: it and discuss it out on our discord with other.

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Speaker 2: Forballers sureballers dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, critically think about some of these questions, these prompts

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to guide you through. By all means,

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Speaker 1: feel free to reach out to Dan on social media,

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Speaker 1: really anywhere you can find him to let him know

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Speaker 1: why or when all of his answers are wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: We have done this concept twice before. The one point

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Speaker 1: zero version was in twenty nineteen. I had a full

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Speaker 1: story arc for you where you were a successful athletic director,

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Speaker 1: then you got soured. Eventually you stole Howard's rock and

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Speaker 1: then went to jail. Yes, I don't know how well

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Speaker 1: you remember that. I don't know, but yes, it's familiar.

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Speaker 1: Then a year later, in twenty twenty, we had a

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Speaker 1: two point zero version. I had you as an idea

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Speaker 1: guy under the tutelage of supreme Leader Oliver Luck. You

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Speaker 1: soared to incredible heights in the sport, and then you

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Speaker 1: woke up and realized the whole damn thing was a dream. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's twenty twenty was when it was I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it was COVID themed.

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Speaker 1: There was a COVID angle to it, like. We didn't

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Speaker 1: make light of it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, No, no, no, is that when I suggested we

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Speaker 2: move college football to Vancouver and have donors watch the

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Speaker 2: game from elevated pods.

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Speaker 1: I believe that was what that was Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: I did. I stand by that. I believe that's what

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Speaker 1: that was. Yeah. So it's been a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: but it is mid June. We're kind of on that

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Speaker 1: in the off season. We dusted off the concept today.

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Speaker 1: It's RPG three point zero. Take that music down, Dan.

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Speaker 1: What I've got before the Everballerhood Today is a series

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Speaker 1: of what seven prompts. I'm gonna guide you through this

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Speaker 1: story arc that we've created. It is, of course college

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Speaker 1: football themed. It is also, of course, very fictional and

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Speaker 2: I there's something here because you're so mild mannered, because

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Then you turn creatively to role playing, and I just

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Speaker 1: You read this, this is really weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just think your brain's going to roll playing.

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Speaker 1: going on here, ain't this okay? Before we go any further. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need a name for your character. You're gonna play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the spirit of eat the rich, I look

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Speaker 2: forgot his name. I'm going to be thirst and Howl

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Speaker 2: the fifth obviously was thirst and how the third on

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Speaker 1: You are a quixotic billionaire name Thurston Howl the fifth.

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Speaker 1: You've amassed a great fortune, hundreds of billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: with your entrepreneurship, with your incredible technical innovations. You're also

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Speaker 1: painfully opinionated about college football. So opinionated, in fact, that

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Speaker 2: This is actually kind of timely, tie, because it turns

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Speaker 2: out you can buy an entire sport, right, we learned

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Speaker 1: you may now also own one hundred and thirty one colleges.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, okay, you, Thurston have unlimited power to drastically

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Speaker 2: So this is the Thurston Howell Public Investment Fund, essentially,

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Speaker 2: infusing the sport with a ton of cash.

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Speaker 2: Tie, I'm finding ways using advanced dark matter or whatever

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Speaker 2: I have access to to shrink stadiums. Right, No stadium

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Speaker 1: So this affects the Big House. Tennessee also played Stay

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you're artificially creating some scarcity.

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Speaker 2: Correct, I'm creating scarcity, and the people that do go

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Speaker 2: reserve a certain amount for students. I'm going to reserve

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Speaker 2: a certain amount for people that can't afford what this

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that this is not just

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, yeah, I am going to

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Speaker 2: best to keep the tickets off the secondary markets and

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Speaker 2: all of those vultures, all those predators.

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Speaker 1: I hate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna eliminate fees, all those crazy fees. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna remove ticket Master from the equation. Obviously not a sponsor,

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Speaker 2: but could be probably not anymore that comment, and so look,

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Speaker 2: we're living in a hypothetical universe. But I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: going to do is, I'm going to take out that worry.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take out the doing everything for TV worry. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm infusing billions of dollars into the sport. I want

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Speaker 2: the sport for the sport's sake, And so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have fewer commercials. We can go down a long list.

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Speaker 2: But if money is no longer an issue for players,

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Speaker 2: for schools, for athletic departments, for scholarships, for everything that

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Speaker 2: How deep do you want me to get into it, Like,

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Speaker 2: know if money can change that power change is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean from a higher level Thurston, how the

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Speaker 1: fifth ownership perspective? Right, you're gonna throw a ton of

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Speaker 1: I would love to know the logistics and the cost

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Speaker 2: Bit and just get a bunch of sledgehammers and a

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Speaker 1: That's all. It takes a lot of angry people in sledgehammers.

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong? So are you changing anything though,

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Speaker 2: So I could just do whatever I want with the sport.

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Speaker 1: You own the whole damn thing now, all right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing a bunch of ten team conferences. They

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Speaker 2: all play nine conference games. Everybody plays twelve games. Still, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're talking about how I'd structure the sport, I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of ideas. Yeah, ten team conferences, everybody play,

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Speaker 2: it's all round robin. There's no conference championship. There's I

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Speaker 2: guess there could be a conferce championship, but there's no divisions.

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Speaker 2: I haven't decided on the conference championshiping. I think those

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Speaker 2: to eliminate that with tie breakers that make sense. Everybody

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Speaker 2: would play twelve games. Two of the three non conference

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Speaker 2: play eleven Power five opponents total the out of the

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Speaker 2: twelve games, with the third non conference game saved for

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Speaker 2: a team from a conference that's not considered to be

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Speaker 2: a power conference. I'd say, I'm infusing a ton of

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Speaker 2: money within FCS out of the goodness of my heart

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Speaker 2: so that we don't have to So this is, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to play that game just for cash, right,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't want Like why why should Furman be

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Speaker 2: just to get a paycheck. I'm out of the goodness

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Speaker 2: of my heart, also infusing the FCS level with a

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Speaker 1: So this wasn't even part of what I jotted down here.

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Speaker 1: You own one hundred and thirty one colleges, but Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the THHIG fund is so prosperous that you're even gonna

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Speaker 1: drizzle some of them.

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Speaker 1: Fifth spending money and laying pipe. Let's move on too,

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Speaker 1: They want to know what is what is your plan? Thurston?

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Speaker 2: I'm drilling froil tie, Drill, baby, drill.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're supposed to say?

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Speaker 2: I'm taking that dark matter, Joe, taking all those at

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. Let's say you're worth I

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Speaker 1: But this, this, this whole thing is leaking money left

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Speaker 1: How do you do it? What do you do? Thurston?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, the very easy answer is you infuse

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Speaker 2: evil about it, ty that I'm going to make sure

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Speaker 1: You didn't make all this money in the first place

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Speaker 2: Right that you have to invest and say, okay, where

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Speaker 1: The lawyer charges for this are going to be preposterous,

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Speaker 2: And you think I two hundred and forty four billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is extraordinarily evil.

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Speaker 2: Again, what is a better way to make a bunch

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Speaker 2: I did not expect this answer, And I'm not an

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Speaker 1: What you gotta do. Yeah. Yeah, let's move on, shall we. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got bad news. The bleeding is still happening, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to select any Georgia Bulldogs. Okay, we've

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Speaker 2: So what I'll even say? You can combine the last

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Speaker 2: of them. But there are some players who were merely

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Speaker 2: good in college and blew up in the NFL, who

431
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Speaker 2: then you could say, like, well, the college of version

432
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Speaker 2: of them is probably also good to be excellent.

433
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the limits of this technology is still rather unproven technology, right,

434
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Speaker 1: are that you only get them from when they were

435
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Speaker 1: in college. You're not getting kind of the eventual future

436
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Speaker 1: version of Aaron Donald. You get Aaron Donald.

437
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Speaker 2: At pitt I still think that's pretty incredible to get

438
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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald was good, But are.

439
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Speaker 1: You taking him as one of your top five picks? Okay?

440
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Speaker 2: So I want to I want a dominant defensive tackle, Okay,

441
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Speaker 2: I want a completely disruptive defensive tackle. I want a quarterback.

442
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Speaker 2: I want a lockdown corner. Although against the Georgia team,

443
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Speaker 2: do you need that kind like would that be the

444
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Speaker 2: most necessary? I'd probably take a crazy middle linebacker over

445
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Speaker 2: a lockdown corner because there's so few and far between. Okay,

446
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: So I'm taking dominant defensive tackle sideline to signeline inside

447
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Speaker 2: or middle linebacker. I'm taking a quarterback, I'm taking a

448
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Speaker 2: Winter Wonder of a receiver, and I'm taking some kind

449
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Speaker 2: of offensive lineman. I don't think I'd waste on running

450
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Speaker 2: back against this Georgia team. If I were to, it

451
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Speaker 2: would be somebody do everything. So you're an Alvin Kamara

452
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Speaker 2: or a Reggie Bush or a Christian McCaffrey. I'm probably

453
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Speaker 2: gonna limit this to the more modern era because there

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Speaker 2: is so much crazy speed and athleticism on this Georgia team,

455
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Speaker 2: especially on defense, that I need somebody with the training

456
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Speaker 2: and athleticism of somebody that was more modern. All due

457
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Speaker 2: respect to I don't know whoever you want to think

458
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Speaker 2: of from the seventies or something to Billy white shoes

459
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Speaker 2: everybody like that. Okay, So I'm taking. Yeah, i'd be

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Speaker 2: between Aaron Donald and Domakin, Sue.

461
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Speaker 1: And Domink and Sue's a really good answer.

462
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Speaker 2: In terms of pure unadulterated dominance. I'd start with a

463
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Speaker 2: Sue or Donald type. I'll probably take Aaron Donald. I'll

464
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Speaker 2: probably take Aaron Donald was again Pittsburgh, Pa, where champions

465
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Speaker 2: are forged out of steel. My other Pittsburgh thought have

466
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Speaker 2: been uh Rivis Islands. But now I'm backtracking on he's

467
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Speaker 2: a pit panther, is he not?

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Speaker 1: He is pitt Panther.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm backtracking on the corner element because you're

470
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Speaker 2: not dealing with crazy downfield passing attacks from those Georgia squads.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking probably Patrick Willis.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say Patrick Willis your boy. Eventual

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Speaker 1: forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Er Willis or Keithley was where my brain went in

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Speaker 2: terms of dominant inside linebackers. This some great ones at Alabama,

476
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Speaker 2: But I think you know, Luke Keickley knew every single

477
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Speaker 2: play that was happening, and Patrick Willis was just unfair stupid.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you Patrick Willis. Wh don't we go Patrick Willis.

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Speaker 2: We'll go Patrick Willis. I'm going Joe Burrow at quarterback. Really,

480
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Speaker 2: I'm going Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Why Burrow over some of the other quarterbacks that we've

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Speaker 1: seen in college list list them for me? Well, I mean,

483
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Speaker 1: there have been a lot of great, dynamic quarterbacks that

484
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Speaker 1: can can go on the move Vince Young. Vince Young

485
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: was impossible to bring down sure back in the day

486
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Speaker 1: and brought an element. People would always say he'd get outside.

487
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Speaker 1: He didn't realize how quick he was. Yeah, so that

488
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Speaker 1: can stress that really talented Georgia front seven, make them

489
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Speaker 1: make some mistakes, take bad angles, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Vincente's a compelling answer. Can go back as

491
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Speaker 1: far as like Virginia Tech Mike Vick in terms of

492
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Speaker 1: getting a quarterback who can scramble, get outside the pocket

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Speaker 1: and change the game. And I think when you're going

494
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Speaker 1: up against a team like a Georgia some of the

495
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Speaker 1: Georgia teams we've seen, you want that quarterback who can

496
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Speaker 1: when things break down, improvise.

497
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Speaker 2: So in twenty nineteen, Kirby Smart's defense helped to lead

498
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Speaker 2: the team because it was a jake from team to

499
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Speaker 2: the number four ranking and SEC East Crown. Okay, they

500
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Speaker 2: play in the SEC championship game and Joe Burrow goes

501
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: for three hundred and fifty yards and four touchdowns, no interceptions,

502
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Speaker 2: and drops forty on them without so much as breaking

503
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Speaker 2: a sweat. I'm pretty confident that Joe Burrow is my guy.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a great answer. Okay, so you're you've

505
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: got your two defenders and Aaron Donald Patrick Willis. Now

506
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Speaker 1: you've got Joe Burrow. Who are you going with next?

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Speaker 2: I'm taking whoever along the offensive line. There's so many

508
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Speaker 2: incredible options that you know have won Outland trophies or

509
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Speaker 2: you know what, don't You can take Quentin Nelson Notre Dame. Sure,

510
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: that's not a bad answer for the tough interior defensive

511
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: players that have been completely dominant for Georgia Tyron Smith USC.

512
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Speaker 2: I believe Panay Sewell just to get some Oregon in there.

513
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me, all right.

514
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Speaker 1: So, like a Jonathan Ogden type for your left tackle.

515
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well that might be. He was incredible, obviously

516
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Speaker 2: one of the greatest offensive linemen ever. I'd go somebody

517
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Speaker 2: a little bit more recent that is used to seeing

518
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Speaker 2: this speed. You know, Jonathan Ogden's playing against like nineties

519
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Oregon State. I'm just not there yet yet, as if

520
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to be convinced at some point.

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00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: So some some modern yeah quote unquote modern offensive tackle

522
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Speaker 1: who was draftedeah, you know, top five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone of the Yeah, although Pinay Sewell just to

524
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Speaker 2: have the Oregon element it's my team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I have four. Now you got four, and

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Speaker 1: I think you said you wanted a wide receiver here

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Speaker 1: to kind of captain your receiver. I could go tight end.

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Speaker 2: Something's about something about tight end is a little bit

529
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Speaker 2: it's speaking to me a little bit more because if

530
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Speaker 2: you have a great, perfect tight end, then you're getting

531
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Speaker 2: a ton of productivity in the blocking and receiving game.

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Speaker 1: So I think I might go with tight end. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting, I think I might. Do you have a

534
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Speaker 1: guy in mind?

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Speaker 2: Well, so like the idea is like Travis Kelcey might

536
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Speaker 2: be the best tight end ever, right right, But I

537
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: don't know if he was since right that he wasn't.

538
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he was.

539
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I just don't remember, I'm misremembering. I'd probably go

540
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Speaker 2: a healthy Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Gronk here, healthy Arizona gronk.

542
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Speaker 2: Healthy Arizona gronk because I specifically remember a game in

543
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Speaker 2: two thousand, in early two thousand, two thousand and six,

544
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: eight something somewhere in there, when Oregon played against Arizona

545
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Speaker 2: and he was healthy. Maybe Willie Twatama was the quarterback

546
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Speaker 2: that Oregon was triple teaming him. It was like, well,

547
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Speaker 2: you're not doing much against Gronk. So I think that's

548
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: if I started out with Burrow Gronk sewell Willis Donald's.

549
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty pumped about it, and people in

550
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Speaker 2: the comments. I have seen a couple comments here asking

551
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: about like Bo Jackson, You're you're talking about a position

552
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: where the eighty third best answer is correct to me, right,

553
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: and so I don't know that Bo Jackson at Auburn,

554
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: as great as he was, is more important and more

555
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: rare than the eighty third best inside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Gronk, you didn't play a whole lot.

557
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: I know, that's the thing I'm saying.

558
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: I played like healthy. So look who else is up

559
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: there for you at tight end putting you on the

560
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: spot here? There's been great notre dame guys.

561
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Rudolph was really good on the side.

562
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's a long list. So you got Tyler Eiford.

563
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: Who's another one. I was thinking. Jermaine Gresham was really

564
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: good in college, yeah, as well for Oklahoma, played a

565
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: couple of seasons, had a ton of touchdowns. But he's

566
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Speaker 1: not a healthy gronk. He's not a healthy gronk.

567
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Speaker 2: No, like imagine Joe Burrow in the red zone throwing

568
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: to healthy Gronk. Tell me who on any of those

569
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: Georgia teams is doing anything about that?

570
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Travis Beckham for Wisconsin was really good.

571
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Speaker 2: All these Yeah, Wisconsin and I have had a ton Like.

572
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: The thing is, I could answer George Kittle, but I

573
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: have no idea how good George Kittle was in college

574
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: because it was the Iowa offense, and Iowa had no

575
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: idea how good George Kittle was.

576
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Speaker 1: I So TJ.

577
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: Howkinson no a fan like. They've had a ton of

578
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: guys who've made plays. But at least on those I

579
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: think that was Mike Stoops Arizona Mike Stoops, and who

580
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: is the offensive coordinator? I think Seth Latrell maybe.

581
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: That.

582
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Speaker 2: At least I'm confident that Nick Foles, all those guys,

583
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Willie Tutama, they were throwing two brilliants. So yeah, I'll

584
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: go healthy Gronk. It's my billionaire world portal. I'm plucking

585
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: him from a healthy moment in his career at Arizona.

586
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Well, the All Star Game was electric. Georgia finally lost.

587
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Of course they lost this game, right. Unfortunately the same

588
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: is true for your pocketbook Dan Okay, or should I say, Thurston,

589
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: you know how much it costs open up a damn portal.

590
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna make me be evil again. You're just never

591
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna make that money back. So okay, your lawyers, your

592
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: legal team, your army of lawyers, crafted away that you

593
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: can give out four big chunks of this big old

594
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: boat of an investment college football and write them off

595
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: as charitable donations. Yeah. So now the question is to you, Thurston,

596
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: who are the four noble custodians of college football who

597
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: can lead this sport out of your big old shadow.

598
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: So to whom am I bequeathing and spreading the wealth?

599
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: The new the modern four horsemen of college foot Okay,

600
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: right off the top, Larry Scott, Right.

601
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: You're trying to set them up for the future for success.

602
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: You still are a fan.

603
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm short in college football. You are evil, So okay,

604
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: it's your game, all right. So the four people that

605
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: are going to act as almost old Roman senators, right,

606
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: that are going to be commissions from a business and

607
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: competitive standpoint to help look after the sport. Right, you

608
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: just got to find smart people with good intentions. I

609
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: guess what you're asking me.

610
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, honest brokers, honest brokers who care about the sport. Yeah,

611
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily in it for financial gain, they just want

612
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: the best for it. Spencer Hall, Yeah.

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00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, who is more modern and loving up to

614
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: the weirdness of the sport than Spencer, unconcerned with making

615
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: billions of dollars, just doing it.

616
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: For the love. So a genuinely nice person, great person

617
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Speaker 1: as far as I know. I haven't seen him in

618
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Speaker 1: a few years.

619
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Speaker 2: As far as I know, Yeah, I go Spencer, I'd go.

620
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: Man, this is a tough question.

621
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: It's a tough question because you could say somebody who

622
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: like has the business acumen and or we perceive, like

623
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: I say Bob Iger at Disney, right that you like,

624
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: he put this in prime position and content is king.

625
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: But then you turn it over to TV, like we've

626
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: turned it over right now, and you're getting some pretty

627
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: terrible decisions.

628
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: I think you need to stay away from the TV folk.

629
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Speaker 1: I think so too. Like if if you like Spencer

630
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: as an example, Spencer knows where good content is. Yeah,

631
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: he maybe not maybe does not think in those terms. No,

632
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: of course, not all the time, but he understands it

633
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: and understands kind of the pulse of this thing better

634
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: than almost anybody. Mm hmm.

635
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: Rob Manfred again, No, no, we're not going to Rob Manfred.

636
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: I want, but I want somebody with college football and

637
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: sports experience, Okay, And that's really tough, it is.

638
00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: It's extreme prob. Not Kevin Warren. We're not gonna go

639
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren. Not Kevin he's the answer.

640
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Tim Cook is a college football guy, an Auburn fan.

641
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I mean he's probably already got enough money

642
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: that he doesn't need to worry about financial gain. You

643
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: can just do for the love of the sport. I

644
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: think I think fans in this case would hear that

645
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: Tim Cook is getting it. They would say, wow, he's

646
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: done wonders with Apple. We don't know what he can

647
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: do with college football, And there would be I think

648
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of hesitation on behalf of the fan base,

649
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: knowing that perhaps you're turning things over from one billionaire

650
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: to I don't know if Tim Cooks got billions, but

651
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: certainly another millionaire. But you would trust I think his

652
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: intentions on some level. So I can put Tim Cook

653
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: down here.

654
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: I probably just want like talkers who like the sport,

655
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: who just want the sport to be entertaining, Like I'd

656
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: go like Mina Chimes or Bomani Jones or like people

657
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: like that, where it's just like you leave the business

658
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: stuff to the accountants and you're just like, how do

659
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: we figure out how to to make this an entertaining thing?

660
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Is there a former player that you think embodies what

661
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: the sport is about? Sure? What's his name? The surgeon

662
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: from Florida State?

663
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: You know what's his name? The safety Now that that's

664
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: how confident I am that I don't even know his

665
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: name forget his name right now, I'm.

666
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Talking the roads. Yeah, the Rhodes scholar, famous last name,

667
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: I think with.

668
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Byron Roll, Yes, who else would be good? Not Paul Finebomb?

669
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: No, I think Spencer's our media guy. I think Tim

670
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: cooks our business guy. I think Myron role represents the

671
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: student athlete about as well as anybody, and certainly high

672
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: level aptitude on the field as well. So that leaves

673
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: rooms for sort of a wild card here, somebody who

674
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: can shake things up in a in a different way.

675
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: So maybe somebody from the entertainment world. Okay, okay, somebody

676
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: from somebody admirable from the entertainment world that you know

677
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: that it has some sort of in with sports, Like, are.

678
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: You thinking a Ryan Reynolds type in this case? Oh,

679
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: because he owns the team in in REXFC. He's found

680
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: a way to kind of build that from the ground up.

681
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: You know who it is, You know who it is.

682
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr, Steve Kerr. He comes across as smart.

683
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: He's a former college major college athlete, is a winner,

684
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: and has dealt with the upper echelon of sports business

685
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: within the Warriors, dealing with all that money stuff. I

686
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: think I'm going Steve Kerr. Maybe Bob Meyer's somewhere in there.

687
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: How about that.

688
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Spencer, Tim Cook, myern role Steve Kerr. Oh boy, we're

689
00:38:54,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: going to get some response to that. Beautiful. You are

690
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: inspired by this whole movement that took place during your

691
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: tenure when LSU got air conditioned football helmets. You remember that,

692
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: I do. So you decide, now that you're fully out

693
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: of this thing, that you're going to combine your love

694
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: for technology and childish indulgence introducing electro Fit Gritware. It's

695
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: your new venture. It aims to revolutionize football uniforms and

696
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: equipment with futuristic designs and let's say thoughtful integrations. Yeah, Thurston,

697
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: describe for me your next iteration of the futuristic college

698
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: football uniform that your company is bringing to life. What

699
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: type of innovation or technologies enhancements does this uniform possess

700
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: that make it unlike anything ever seen before in the sport?

701
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't you want it to be whatever alien material

702
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: is safer and prevent prevents head trauma. That's the easy,

703
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: the easy element here. I don't have exactly what that

704
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: descriptive description is right now at the tip of my tongue.

705
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: That's the priority in terms of technology.

706
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want it.

707
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: You want people to stay cool in the hot, stay

708
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: warm in the cold. I think that the future is

709
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: the past to be and I've I've talked about this

710
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: when teams reveal new alternative uniforms or just new uniform design.

711
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: In general, My innovation is just looking to the best

712
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: of the past. And so what I'm doing is every

713
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: team is it is it? They have the choice. They

714
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: can make it an all uniform, or they can make

715
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: it a full time uniform in which they take the

716
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: best of past looks and just clean it up a

717
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: little bit.

718
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: That to me is the move like I.

719
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Think I saw that Marylyn this year is wearing all

720
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: script turps helmet.

721
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: I believe yeah, is that true. I don't know you

722
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: you can look that up.

723
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: But I want the best and most iconic looks for

724
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: all of these teams, cleaned up and made into the

725
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: new look. And so that across the board, I need

726
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: to approve all uniforms and there needs to be a

727
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: nod to the past involved. It doesn't have to be

728
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: an Apples to Apples throwback, but in the way that

729
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Pitt had its like generic navy look with like the

730
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: angry eyed panther, and then they went back to full

731
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: time script pit with that specific color of blue and yellow,

732
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: and it looks a thousand times better, like even Cal.

733
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the alternate for Cal

734
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: where they have like the block C of the helmet.

735
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It looks awesome and it feels collegiate. And

736
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: so that's what I'm doing. Uniform wise. Everybody is getting

737
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: cleaned up throwback looks that they can either use as

738
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: an alt or they can go full time with. And

739
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: so no more angry eyes, no more angry mouths, Like

740
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: I just want clean, old fashioned hate now clean, old fashioned,

741
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: uh updated looks. That's that's my edict from Mount High.

742
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: That's what I want from the sport. Technologically it's whatever,

743
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: but visually, I want to feel like I'm watching a

744
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 2: college game, not like, you know, a uniform that looks

745
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: like it was designed by East Bay's third best design

746
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: don't even know if they still exist, but damn it did.

747
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: I love receiving that catalog, you know, every month, and

748
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: just like, oh man, look at the new airport.

749
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: It was as thick as the phone book. Those old

750
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: I love those.

751
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what I'm doing. That's that's my main comment.

752
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: And also, if you want to go double color looks

753
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: for rivalry games like USC and UCLA do I would

754
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: almost make that mandatory unless there is like a clear clash,

755
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: right the two shades of blues, two shades of green,

756
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: something like that. That's what I'm That's what I'm going

757
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: with for I'm much more about the visuals than I

758
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: am the actual technology here.

759
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: I figured you would be Thurston, Yeah, I just know

760
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: that about you. I figured that your innovation would be

761
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: more on the design side. Obviously, staying cool is important.

762
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: It seems as if we're getting there with the tech

763
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: helping see air conditioned helmet mentioned in the intro to

764
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: this segment. I do like the angle of like meta

765
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: materials that can prevent the trauma, like a vibranium type

766
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: of stuff from the Avengers and Black Panther, where you

767
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: can find some way to prevent the trauma. I don't

768
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: know what kind of hits you would see if everybody

769
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: had that kind of armor on them, that would probably

770
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: make the game more interesting. But as long as we're

771
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: protecting the heart ever shell the guys within, I think

772
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: that's see.

773
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: But my good chance is college football is arguably the

774
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: least futuristic and future looking sport, right. It's an older audience,

775
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: and it's people who are celebrating their time at the

776
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: school with their fandom in many cases not all cases.

777
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: And so it's you are a you know, a Houston fan,

778
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: you are an Oklahoma State fan, you are a Cincinnati fan.

779
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just using Big twelve schools here because

780
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: either you or somebody you know or somebody related to

781
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: went to that school. So there's that element of celebrating

782
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: the past to college. And so that's why I'm I

783
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: don't want to NFL blitzize the uniforms or the experience.

784
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: I want everything to be, you know, especially familiar nostalgic.

785
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: Is there pressure from Tim Cook to try and integ

786
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: rate the vision pro into the helmet? Oh?

787
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: God, probably, I'm gonna have a Timy, Timy, Timm do

788
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: your thing, Stay in your lane.

789
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: We're good here. You could see that happening, right, I

790
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: mean you you bequeath part of this.

791
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: I could go, I could I could have like the

792
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: refs utilize it. I don't care about what's happening with them,

793
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: so we can get that. You know, they they are

794
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: maybe they have access to a little bit more technology

795
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: in terms of making bang bang calls. And also, you know,

796
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: you can broadcast that look potentially to the TV partners

797
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: using the vision Pro and some sort of onboard you know,

798
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: transmitter something like that.

799
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so the uniforms are a hit. Yes, And

800
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: here's the thing that we're seeing now as we watch

801
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: these games. The games are more exciting than ever. I

802
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: believe that I'm gonna cut the music here for a second,

803
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: and that's when Dan Wetzel that pain in the ass,

804
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: Dan Wetzel, Wow, joist you and Wetzel huh drops another

805
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: bombshell on you. Your uniforms have a secret AI chip

806
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: embedded within the fabric. Oh, Tam you are you are

807
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: a tech guy. Now this is your Thurst and this

808
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: is you. This how major billions partially our tech. Yeah,

809
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: AI chip embedded within the fabric and while they're on

810
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: the field, they communicate with the satellite. They operate a

811
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: bit like drones. Yeah, play that music. This is more

812
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: of the spacier one. Yeah, I'll play that one. That's good.

813
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Operate a bit like drones when they're out there. Every

814
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: game is about, i don't know, twenty percent more watchable. Okay,

815
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: if Wetzel is to be believed with this bombshell reporting,

816
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: let that play out. It's because of an algorithm, Thurston,

817
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: that you and your company developed in secret after getting

818
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: access to Bill Connolly's sp plus and DO and some

819
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of reverse engineering. We're not even sure of the particulars.

820
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: What exactly did you tweak to achieve this effect to

821
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: make the games more exciting visa via the uniforms and

822
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: the tech within.

823
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: To make college football more exciting via the uniforms.

824
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: The uniforms had the chip, and so it's like, you know,

825
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: when Jim Carrey who put the mask on back in

826
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: the day. He kind of turned into a separate creature altogether.

827
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: When Henry Rowan Gartner broke his arm and it healed

828
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: and all the ligaments were tight, it was almost like

829
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: an alien arm on his body. That's how he ended

830
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: up on the cub to begin with. Yeah, so what

831
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying is they put the uniforms on. The uniforms

832
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of have a mind of their own. So the

833
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: players are doing their thing, but the uniforms are getting

834
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: an assist here, and they're making the product about twenty

835
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: percent more watchable. The games are exciting, The product as

836
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: a whole for the fans is a lot better. What

837
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: did you do? What did you tweak to the algorithm

838
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: to have this effect?

839
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pivot and I'm gonna say it's not in

840
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: the uniforms. It's in the coaching pullovers and Matt Ruhle

841
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: smocks things of that nature.

842
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Wool continue continue.

843
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: Yes, so instead of the players who are merely doing

844
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: what coaches ask of them, I'm changing the chip set

845
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: into the play into the coaches, you know, pullovers and

846
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: pullos and such.

847
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: So Wetzel was wrong. Wetzel got a little bit of

848
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: a red herring, but he's not too too far off.

849
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: He's not too far off. But leave it to Yahoo Sports. Yeah,

850
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: break every story. Yeah we're not going there's basically no

851
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: more punts. Uh, inside of you're a inside of your

852
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: own let's call it thirty five.

853
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't.

854
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: So anytime the coaches feel the urge to punt, I

855
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: don't know if it's like a little shock to the

856
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: system or it's you using some sort of magnetism to

857
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: affect that part of the brain that controls fear and cowardice.

858
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm using here. I am you're saying

859
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: twenty percent. You know, you give yourself what twenty five

860
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: percent more opportunity when you decide to go for it

861
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: on fourth down. So I'm saying aggression there. I'll due

862
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: respect to punters. I think punters have a place, especially

863
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: the best of punters. Who was it for Texas a

864
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: few years ago? Oh yeah, Michael, Yeah, come on, tie,

865
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: I forget. I think he's with the Seahawks now, yeah, yea, yeah,

866
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Seahawks punter Michael Dixon there it is, right, or one

867
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: of those Alabama guys. So they have their place in

868
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: my sports, but there's going to be a lot more

869
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: aggression involved on the sideline in.

870
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: The booth with with the AI chips you're talking about

871
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: in the polos, Cameron Dicker the kicker Is that the

872
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: guy you're thinking of?

873
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: No, No, Michael Dixon. Dick or the kicker was a

874
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: place kicker.

875
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, born in Hong Kong. If memory stirs, but continue.

876
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm also likely going to well, I guess

877
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: this is more rules. I was going to say, get

878
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: rid of, like the the nepotism stuff with you know,

879
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: Farens and even like Kyle Shanahan has a great coach,

880
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: I just don't want him coaching with Michaels.

881
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: With Mike Shanahan. Well, I mean, look, the rule smock

882
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: is on at all times. Maybe that's true for other

883
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: coaching smocks. Right, So if this is the type of

884
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: thing that is now embedded within the fabric, coaches don't

885
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: even know. It's like an enemy of the state situation here.

886
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: M hmm. Perhaps it's altering the entire marketplace of ideas

887
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: within that coaching room, right. So, never what it could be,

888
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything.

889
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything with enhancing players skill artificially,

890
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: with having chips in, you know, sewn into the uniforms

891
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: or something, or whenever you're whatever you're talking about here,

892
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: you're going down to a strange road here, Like I

893
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: don't want it to be such that like, oh, now

894
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: players can catch everything and there are no more drops,

895
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Like I think the imperfections are just as important as

896
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: the perfections or whatever lack of better term the appeal

897
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: points of college football.

898
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: And so I don't I.

899
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: Don't want to make players perfect plays perfect. I just

900
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: want people to go pedal to the metal, balls to

901
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 2: the wall at all times.

902
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: So what's interesting about this is Dan Watzell, who's usually

903
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: never wrong, he missed a little bit here, a little

904
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: bit off with his reporting. Your uniforms have that capability,

905
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: you just have not engaged it yet. You've turned on

906
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: the rul smock portion of the technology. That's what's communicating

907
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: to the satellites, that's what's being tweaked, but ultimately not

908
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: the on field product. Players just feel better in the uniforms.

909
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: That's why they've reported all these great gains and why

910
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: the games are more watchable because they can perform better. Yeah,

911
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: not because they're being controlled secretly. You wouldn't do that,

912
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: would you, thirsty, No, definitely not. Finally people found out

913
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: about this. They're not letting you anywhere near college football.

914
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Authors that's fair. That's fair. Can't go anywhere near You're

915
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: not in jail. You didn't break the law. But it's

916
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: just it's better this way. You're just kind of on

917
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: the outside looking at. College football's got a crisis now

918
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: with the uniforms. They got to deal with that. They're

919
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: going to stick with everything, I think through the National Championship, right,

920
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: just to keep everything normalized. But who knows what happens

921
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: next season. That turns out to be a curious decision

922
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, do you have that spacey music again?

923
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: I do?

924
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: I think it's right here. Yeah, yeah, bring it down

925
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: just a little. It's a little loud, little thank you.

926
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: An alien mothership, the texts, all those signals being sent

927
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: up to the cloud, Okay, specifically the RPO stuff, because

928
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: that's just that's a foreign concept to them. The alien

929
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: ship comes down lands on the fifty yard line of

930
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: heart Rock Stadium during the Nationals. That timing, yeah, incredible,

931
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: time of great panic. Also celebration we're not alone, but confusion.

932
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's there. He wants to board the ship. Everyone's

933
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: holding them back. Come on, Jim, Jim's never felt comfortable here.

934
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. But that notwithstanding, the doors open up,

935
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: the puff of smoke emerges, as does a group of

936
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: five identical dan Orlovsky's what they're wearing form fitting suits

937
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: like they're in a Marvel movie. Yeah it actually it

938
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: turns out cut the music. It turns out that our

939
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: dan Orlowski is secretly one of them. Okay, you know

940
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: you've seen him on He's very into the scheme stuff,

941
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: a little too much Dan Okay, he comes running down

942
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: from the stands a big bro hug with his comrades.

943
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: They're actually just here to take them home. They picked

944
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: up the signals. They thought it was him, in reality

945
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: it was you, and now they're finally here to take

946
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: them home. Mm hmm. So it's a great reunion the

947
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Orlowsky's that the band is. They're they're taking them back

948
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: to the planet Orlowski, whatever it's called. And as a

949
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: peace offering to human beings and especially for interrupting the

950
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: National championship, they upload some of their own schemes that

951
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: they've picked up while traversing the universe. Okay, you know

952
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: they found the RPO stuff interesting, but they've uploaded some

953
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: stuff to the servers before they go as a parting gift.

954
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: You still have access because Thurston, of course you do.

955
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: You can't fully divest from this thing. What does the

956
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: future of football schemes look like as per what the

957
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: aliens have given us the future of scheme? That's a

958
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: good question, ty.

959
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the old Ian boyd

960
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: four minute off being the future where you utilize defensive

961
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: players as you try to milk the clock. I want

962
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: a lot more of that. I want more Miles Jack

963
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: two way players. If you've got a crazy athlete somewhere,

964
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: I want who is I think there was a Giants

965
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: player who just closed out a Giant's game at pitcher,

966
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Crawford.

967
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: I think you see that. I didn't see it, but

968
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: I know Brandon Brandon Crawford.

969
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: Brandon Crawford tweeted out, I've always I'm paraphrasing here, I've

970
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: always told pitchers that their job is easy, and after

971
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: pitching I can confirm with my zero point zero zero

972
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: lifetime era or something like that. So, yeah, I want

973
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: I want somebody. I want safeties in there, I want

974
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: linebackers in there. I want edge rushers in there as

975
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: sort of misdirection and you know, perhaps fresh fresh bodies

976
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: as you try to milk the clock down. That to

977
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: me is still the future. That's what That's what I

978
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: want to see, if possible. I don't know, Tie, I

979
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: don't Does I see what I want more of? Does

980
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders and maybe what he is pitching, like Travis

981
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: Hunter playing both the two way thing, does.

982
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: That offer any glimpse into the future, because from his standpoint,

983
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: he's trying to use that as a recruiting pitch at Colorado, right,

984
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: you know who is the guy got Cormani MacLean m

985
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: hmm kind of offered that to him as well, you know,

986
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: you can come here play two ways. He went there, Sure,

987
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, we saw a little bit of that at

988
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: his previous stop. We have seen sort of this emergence

989
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: of the versatile defensive player. We talked about tight ends

990
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: earlier and how they're kind of changing the game, but

991
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: versatility in general athleticism really across the sport has I

992
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: think been the biggest difference between now and say, thirty

993
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: years ago, when if you look at some of those

994
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: old games, they look very very different from what we've

995
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: got correct, So I wonder if that isn't a glimpse

996
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: of what the alien species has brought to bear here.

997
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: But that's not scheme as much as it is utilization,

998
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: which is.

999
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Not scheme per se, but it could be. Right. It

1000
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: starts with utilization, and then when you figure out, oh, okay,

1001
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: we can use these guys a little bit differently, then

1002
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: it kind of seeps out into the scheme. Right.

1003
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: I have a lot of things I don't want to see,

1004
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: but in terms of scheme things I want to see

1005
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: more of or evolve into the future.

1006
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: But what don't you want to see?

1007
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: What don't I want to see? I don't want to

1008
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: see plotting. We talked about this recently that like I

1009
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: don't want to Maybe it was on a Q and

1010
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: A show or something, maybe this past Q and A

1011
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: show where it's you know, clock killing offenses, where it's

1012
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: offense is there to serve defenses. That's hard to quantify, though,

1013
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: So scheme stuff i'd like to see. I think there

1014
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: should be a minimum number of shots downfield. You just

1015
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: gotta hit you got you gotta throw the ball thirty

1016
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: yards of the air or something like that every so often,

1017
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: like maybe some minimums.

1018
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: That you gotta take shots. I can I tell you

1019
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: one that I think maybe off.

1020
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Every how about everybody has to into like who looks

1021
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: after like the oscars results in the suitcase. Yeah, everybody

1022
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: has to submit a trick play for approval to an

1023
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: independent secure organization before each week, you have to run

1024
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: a trick play either in the second or third quarter.

1025
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: Excuse me, how about second third? How about third or

1026
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: fourth quarter? Second half of every game, And that an

1027
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: independent body managed by who else but all over luck

1028
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: looks at the drawing of said trick play in a

1029
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: proves it as a trick play.

1030
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1031
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: It has to meet a certain barrier. It has to

1032
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: meet a certain threshold to be considered a trick play.

1033
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: And every team has to call it in either the

1034
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: third or fourth quarter, and if they forget, there will

1035
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: be a reminder at the start of the fourth quarter

1036
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: from some sort of.

1037
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: Booth in the stadium. I tell you what I would

1038
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: like to see. Tell me one of the things that

1039
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: I think they would pose it on this mysterious hard

1040
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: drive that they've uploaded these schemes to mm hmm intraversing

1041
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: the universe. They've found a way to actually utilize the

1042
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: two quarterback set. Okay, you know because we see that

1043
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Maybe not a lot, but we see it

1044
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: more often than not throughout the course of the season,

1045
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: where teams have two quarterbacks and they want to try

1046
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: and utilize one or put them both in the field

1047
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: at the same time. Every offensive coordinator is, man, we

1048
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: got two quarterbacks that we feel confident going with, and

1049
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: so they put them on the field at the same time.

1050
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: They only ever use one, Right, I would like to

1051
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: see a scheme. What is it? So you got to

1052
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: tell me. I imagine somewhere in the universe, some offensive

1053
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: coordinator has found a way to utilize a two quarterback

1054
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: scheme in a way that one isn't just used as

1055
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: a decoy. Right, I don't know what it looks like exactly.

1056
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's a double pass or the threat of a

1057
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: double pass, not necessarily a double pass, but you're finding

1058
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: some way to utilize that set and not just use

1059
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: one guy as a decoy.

1060
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm doing. You have here sidebar?

1061
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: Do you have a current favorite, either broad category or

1062
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: very specific type of trick play. Oh for me, Yeah, yeah,

1063
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean I was thinking about this the other day. Really,

1064
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: you're just like, yes, I was thinking about this type

1065
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: of play, and I'll have the Floria stores, but I'm

1066
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: letting you buy some time right now. Let me ramping

1067
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: to buy you time where You're like, I I wish

1068
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: my team ran it more. I wish everybody ran this

1069
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: type of trick play more because when it works, it

1070
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: is a thing of beauty to behold. Yeah, I mean

1071
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: the fake the fake field goal, create a fake field goal,

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Speaker 2: fake going to create a trick play. I think it

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Speaker 2: counts as a trick play. Okay, the fake field goal

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Speaker 2: creativity that we have seen over the last twenty years

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Speaker 2: is robust. Yeah, and the play that I always come

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Speaker 2: back to, and we saw any number of like SEC

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Speaker 2: teams try this.

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Speaker 1: Remember LSU did it once and.

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Speaker 2: I was at the LSU game that I think you're

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Speaker 2: thinking of against South Carolina in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean the best, the best fake field goal

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen is where the holder throws it back

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Speaker 1: over his head, the toss, the over shoulder toss, the

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Speaker 1: over the shoulder toss to the kicker as he kind

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: of runs basically like a sweep or a toss, as the.

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Speaker 2: Edge guy is collapsing inward right, and then the kicker runs.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite play of all time. That's my favorite

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Speaker 1: play of all time. A good answer. One that I

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Speaker 1: would like to see more of that I feel like

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Speaker 1: is relatively untapped is because we've seen so much of

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Speaker 1: like the rugby style punt, there's always that like, will

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Speaker 1: they won't they along the front line? Are they gonna

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: rush the punter? Are they just gonna drop back? And

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Speaker 1: it seems like it's ripe for some kicker with raw

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01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: athleticism to just bolt down the field. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like we see that enough.

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Speaker 2: So my favorite punt, if we're talking about fake punts,

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Speaker 2: my favorite fake punt.

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Speaker 3: Is the.

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Speaker 1: Snap to the up guy, the up back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, while the punter sells the snap over his head,

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: he does the jump and the salesmanship of a good

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01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: a well sold Oh this bad snap, and then everybody's

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: panicked and they don't know where the ball is as

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01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: the up back is running through the beagap or whatever

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Speaker 2: with the ball untouched.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect. I love that.

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Speaker 2: I also love the the fake return where there's two

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01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: guys back and one guy is calling for a fair

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Speaker 2: of catch and it's the other guy who catches it

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01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: on the other side of the field. That's always fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite, my favorite concept of all time. I

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily been the most effective mm

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: hmm is when a guy with the same color shirt

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01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: lays down in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, that's that's the old Chris Peterson Special.

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the one that deserves credit.

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Speaker 2: The thing I was going to say, though, on a

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Speaker 2: standard play right where you're in you're you're running an

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Speaker 2: offense and all of a sudden or the coach is like,

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: all right, just run it now. Philly Special is obviously

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Speaker 2: perfect and that's that's its own thing, and that was NFL,

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Speaker 2: but obviously it's been running college. That's wonderful, my personal

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Speaker 2: favorite as a TV moment, and it's incredibly difficult to

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Speaker 2: pull off, and you always see it. I think you

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: see like this on YouTube or Instagram or whatever that

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Speaker 2: it's pulled off in youth sports a lot, because why

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be Kids are easy to fool standard play,

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: quarterback is in the shotgun, and then the quarterback starts

1131
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: walking towards the sideline yelling at the coach that it's

1132
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: the wrong play and it's the wrong formation, and he

1133
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: can't hear. His hands are to his helmet and he's

1134
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,959
Speaker 2: barking at the coach and it's all a decoy direct

1135
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: direct step to the running back, because that's at that point, right.

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes the offensive lineman will sort of shift a little

1137
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: bit collectively and then lock in so they're still, and

1138
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: then the defense is like, I guess we can go

1139
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: down on a knee while the offense figures this out,

1140
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: and then they run the play when that's pulled off,

1141
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: and I think it's a distant cousin of like the

1142
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: fake spike a little bit where it's like a procedural fake.

1143
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: But when that's pulled off and the defense is caught

1144
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: snoozing because the quarterback is barking at the like the

1145
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: guy who's signaling in the plays, you know, the four

1146
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: string quarterback wearing the knee on yellow hat. That to

1147
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: me is when I gasp with pleasure.

1148
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy that?

1149
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

1150
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: I love that? Oh my god, that's it's very difficult.

1151
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: That's very difficult.

1152
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: But in this world of you know, hurry up and

1153
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: then look at me, right, that so many offenses are

1154
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 2: reliant on that that there is that possibility for every

1155
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: so often being able to take advantage with salesmanship from

1156
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback. This has been an extraordinarily weird episode. It's

1157
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: great college football RPG three point zero. Best of luck

1158
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: to you Thurston in your future endeavors.

1159
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Speaker 1: Hopefully they will not involve college football because you kind

1160
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: of ruined things a little bit. That's okay.

1161
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: You have how many to speak from the gut and

1162
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: that's who I am.

1163
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: So I'm in the Aliens Blue. A good chunk of

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Speaker 1: your personal fortune. Got everybody up in arms. Dan Wetzel again,

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,800
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1169
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1185
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,160
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1186
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Speaker 1: you out too much.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought about some of these answers. You didn't

1190
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: give me like the exact phrasing, but you're like, here's

1191
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: the sort of general scenario.

1192
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: Think on it. And that's where I went. For that

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Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Thurston held the fifth

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