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Each Money Making Conversation talk 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: show is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: decision makers. I recognize that we all have different definitions 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: of success. For some, it's a sizable paycheck. Mine is 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: helping people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: goals and living their very best lives through their passion. 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: And That's what I'm trying to do today. So please 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: listen up. I want you to stop tripping over small 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: life is going to present to you. The Money Making 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Conversation interviews provide relatable information to the listener about career 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, and 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: how to live a balanced life. My next guest. You know, 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: every year, you know, since I started the Making Coach, 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: he always has to make that annual interview, annual interview. 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: So it's year three Interview number three, my next guest. 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: As an award winning producer and innovator in entertainment, he 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: currently holds roles as president and founder of Co Black 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: Films and Co Black Digital, a film production and distribution 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: company dedicated to super serving the black community worldwide, and 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: he's also president of Laugh Out Loud and Heartbeat Digital. 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: He's being honored with a Cafe Macu Swag Awards. He 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: probably didn't know about that, something that I've gotten involved 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: with and they said, hey, Richeane, who do you think 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: deserve these awards. He's a celebration of what black men 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: are doing that making a difference in our community. He's 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: doing that on a daily basis by empowering others to 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: reach their life goals from civic leaders, businessmen, activists, celebrities 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and every day day he's one of them. Please welcome 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. My man Cafe Award, Cafe Moke Award. 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Swagger was on a re Jeff Klanagan, what's up my brother? 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: How you done hey man man, Jeff jeffs is year 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: three as usual? You know, you keep you posted, you know, 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: left them The first year when we came on the 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: show was the twenty seventeen That's when laugh Out was 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: busting out, and also the you was about to launch 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: the the Kevin Hard uh Serious radio Show. All that 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: stuff was in this early stages. Give us an update 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: on where yet right now. I mean, we're in a 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: really good place and that's because of what's happening in 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the industry. Um and you know, streaming is obviously you're 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of press about you know, people 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: are hanging streaming because a couple of nineteen celery but 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: it was it was already on on an upward trend. Unbelievable. Yeah, 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: the past is like it's now like it's on fire 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: because the people are home and they're watching content. But 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: what's changed since the last time we talked, which has been, 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: which has been, which has been very a beneficial for 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: what I've been doing and for obviously for a lot 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: of other people looking at get into space, is that 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: when we talked last time, when we talked about streaming, 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: the notion was okay, you got Netflix. We know Disney 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Plus is coming, we know HBO Max is coming, we 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: know who is coming. But those are all those are 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: all subscription streaming challenge. And what's happened is that with 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the proliferation of the subscription challenge, meaning that I'm paying 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: ten dollars, I'm paying exactly, what happened a whole new 83 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: wave of a different model called a bar which is 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: advertising the video man which which merely means is like, 85 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: if you're watching it, you can watch it for free 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: with a commercial. So then you saw companies like if 87 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: you have a smart TV, you'll see you probably sell 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: all these acts on the TV pool, TV to Be 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and in Roku and Amazon Fire, like what is all that? 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: They're basically the streaming platforms with audiences, but you don't 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: have to subscrip, right, And what ended up happening is 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: that Pluto, which is by by by Climb for like 93 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: four million dollars, and then two Be was just really 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: by box Kid. I started getting all these calls from 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Pludo and to Be that like Leo in boundary, like, wait, 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: what's called on here? Because I learned my phone just 97 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: started blowing up the back phone looking for content, and 98 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I just figured I figured out what I have to be. 99 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: You don't need a d you don't need to just 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: stop here right now. This is content King right here. Okay, 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: this is black King King, content king I'm talking to 102 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: right now. And Jeff Clinic, you know, way back before 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: anybody thought about recording black people to put them over 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: on vhs, DVDs and blue rays or whatever, you were 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: doing it. So you are content King. So a lots 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: of want everybody know who I'm talking to right now, 107 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: continue stories, Jeff. Sometimes I got to interjective remind people 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: who I'm talking to him. Wasn't this as you know, 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was the person the game for what 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I call directed so with VH okay, so this is 111 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: that all over again. But here's what. Here's what when 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: when I started talking with the inbounds came out pretty 113 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: figured it out. Like I said, where you have all 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: these people, these companies running all the data, but here's 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: people when it comes to our people, is okay, the 116 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: average household for black folks, right, you probably have your 117 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Netflix descriptions and you probably and you probably have an 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Apple itubes for Spotify cause you're gonna listen to your music, right, 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: So you got you got me too, then if you have, 120 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: if you got kids kind of want to jump in 121 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: and Disney Plus it is Disney Plus also cousin with ESPN, 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: And so now you've got Now you've got three subscriptions. 123 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: Let's say you've got maybe one two other descriptions. But 124 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: then after that when you turn on your TV, you're 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: looking for free conquest. Absolutely, if you keep being on four, 126 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: you're living a good life. You're living a good life. 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: You shouldn't listen to my show. I'm sure you like you, 128 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: You're like you, You're good. What happened is that these 129 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: all these three AVI platforms that are now coming embedded 130 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: into the smart TVs are blowing up. I mean I 131 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: can tell you like right now, like so we so 132 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: we just launched l will well you know what I'm doing. 133 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I do it to TV, dude. I like the test 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: to see what's going on. So I'm rolling out by 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the end of ill be on everybody. We launched on 136 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Pluto first, because that was a big one. Like in 137 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: our first like I said yesterday, we had two point 138 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: seven monvilling minutes of people watching shows on the on 139 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: the on the channel um our first thirty days, like 140 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: we were over sixty one million UM views on the thing. 141 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: So people are people are watching. The number the numbers 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: are the numbers are crazy. But what it is is 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: that here's what the kids versus versus you're trying to 144 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: You started like a standalone channel and bring everybody to you. 145 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I just said, Okay, I'm gonna go to where I 146 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: know people that I know. They're on Roku, I know 147 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: they're on Amazon, I know they're in Pludo. You know 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you go to where there's an 149 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: audience that But what's happened on all these platforms is 150 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: that black content is over indexing versus versus mainstream content. 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: On all the pre papcorn black content is just overperformance 152 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: like like period. So that that just kind of tells 153 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: you where the market is. But at the end of 154 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: the days, when you buy these new smart TVs, people 155 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: are buy the TV. You can see these acts on 156 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: the TV and and and that's where we're at. And 157 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what we're a that's it. That's all 158 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: you need. That's so that's that's exactly where it says. 159 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: So it's now obviously with COVID nineteen the numbers now 160 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: are just like it's really started. It's it's accelerating everything. Well, 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting that because that's that is 162 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the case. Like you said, everybody got their little i G. 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: Talk shows. Now if you go at nighttime, the six o'clock, 164 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: it's like about forty fIF on my feet. You know, 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: everybody got a little talk show. You know, everybody tried 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: to get Steven A. Smith. Hey man gets Steven Smith 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: to come on my show. I don't even have to 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: book him no more. He just he's just he's just 169 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: he's self booking himself now. And so because people won't 170 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: that content now. But the beauty of it is that 171 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: this is what I like about it, is that you're 172 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: educating people to this form, this platform. And so because 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: once people when we're gonna get back to normal, well 174 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: this summer, people start going back to work, games to 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: start being played may not have fans, but there will 176 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: be games played this and so that means that these 177 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: athletes and these famous people who have all these at 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: night podcast at night i G. Platform, they're gonna go away. 179 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Guess who gonna be left l O L l O 180 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: L left there wait knowing you come over here because 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: we're here every day, and and that I always love 182 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: talking to you because you have never been a person 183 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to be stymied by the direction that you were going 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: to go, and seeing an opportunity to go over there, 185 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: you're quick to pivot. Why what? What? What? What makes 186 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: that work for you? Like that? You just are you're 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: a forecaster or you you have to say visionary in 188 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: some aspect, but you're not not afraid to pivot away 189 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: from the original plan. Well, I think you know, here's 190 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the thing. What I find in an entertainment My background 191 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: is I have a business. Dogmen, I got an entertainment. Now, 192 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I got an entertainment and learned business. So for me, 193 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: there's a bus the mindset. So I'm not attacked to 194 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: any one thing. If I'm doing this and you gotta go, 195 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: you gotta go from May to be at that, it 196 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. Where A lot of people will I 197 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: find out I gotta you know, even a lot of 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: business people. They get stuck in a box and if 199 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: you if it goes outside of the box, they have 200 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: trouble adjusting. I'm not like I'm gonna I'm gonna always 201 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: adjust to the business. But what happens is that with 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, with technology and social media. Here's what people 203 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: are understand is that the consumer is going to drive 204 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: your business model. If they want to listen to rad Up, 205 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: they will listen. You have to go to what the 206 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: consumer saying. You can no longer push your business model 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: on the consumer because the consumer is going to tell 208 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: you how they want to consume content or or how 209 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: they want to even be entertained. And you have to 210 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: be able to be flexible and just. And you can't 211 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: be so caught up because you spent nine months putting 212 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: together a business plan and all of a sudden the 213 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: business change. You can't get so caught up. And then 214 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to you gotta be able to 215 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: deflect and the justice I mean, I mean, look the 216 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: first thing, the first thing I did when when we 217 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: were in a quarantine, I put three animated projects in 218 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: productive and like, okay, I can't do the protectives who 219 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: animators said at all? I did, absolutely, absolutely, and that's 220 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: why I love it. But no, you know it is 221 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: my main master p days. You have to be able 222 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: to pivot up there, you know, n w A days, 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, straight out of competent day so that whole 224 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: world and then the fact that you are one of 225 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: the vision areas behind, you know, going to comedians, gonna look, 226 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I can shoot your video, I can shoot your comedy special, 227 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: and we can sell these stories back when stores because 228 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: remember you had Steve Harvey. Now we should go to 229 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: like and do like, go to these different record stores 230 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: when they will open, and do signing dates for all 231 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: these DVDs and all these three ways they were dropping 232 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and so then then they became streaming. And so when 233 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: you look at all this competition and all these things 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: that you have out there, it really it's really important 235 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: that when I hear you go, look, Rosa, I'm frustrated, 236 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. I didn't see the pandemic coming, 237 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. But what I couldn't do it 238 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: just says I don't go oh always me okay. I 239 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: got animators, animators got computers, they got WiFi. Let's get busy. 240 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Let's get busy. It's just like my staff. We do 241 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: zoom zoom meetings at eight thirty in the morning, and 242 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: we do zoom meets at four o'clock in the afternoon. 243 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: We do daily function big cause I'm in the digital 244 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: im in the social media. I'm into a podcast. I'm 245 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: into like right now, I'm just gonna recording my show. 246 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Somebody at their house is gonna chop this show up 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna go into syndicational radio on my 248 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: thirty radio stations. And that's how it works. But you're 249 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: not allowing yourself to be frustrated by the process. And 250 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I say this because it's always funny when you come 251 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: on my show, Jeff Clanning, because you are the you know, 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: you're running Kevin Hart Brand, Laugh out Loud, the Heartbeat Digital. 253 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: And this is the side of the business that is 254 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: equally as powerful and equally as possible as popular as 255 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart himself. And that's why it's important that people 256 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: understand that that, you know, you gotta surround yourself with 257 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: people who understand the business, are not frustrated by it, 258 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: and also have a history of success. And that's you, 259 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Jeff Clanican, that's you all as you all day long, 260 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: my friend, all day long. Well, when we come back, 261 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: when we're talking about we got to talk about the 262 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: new TV show. When you come back on Quimby, gotta 263 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: about that, you know that program about the young people 264 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: that you had last year and I told my hey, man, 265 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: we need to turn in the TV show. We will 266 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: talk about that when you come back. Be right back 267 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: with more money making conversation with man Jeff Clanic. Have 268 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: been knowing him a long time and guess what, He's 269 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: a visionary. More money making conversation in a minute. 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That's O t 304 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: t E. R. Dot Ai. Hi, this is money making conversation. 305 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: And you're listening to Rashan McDonald and you're also listening 306 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: to a good friend of mine. His name is Jeff Clanagan. Um. 307 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: You know we just talked earlier about pandemic. The pandemic 308 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: is affecting the way a lot of people are living 309 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: their lives. People could stay at home, and stay at 310 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: home has called shows like The Tiger King on Netflix 311 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: to become the emost watch documentary and the history of documentaries. 312 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: That means that streaming is there. So what also means 313 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: that you better have your content radio because you got 314 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: the audience out there that's ready to watch. So explain 315 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: to us. You know, when you realize that this was 316 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: not going to be a short term stay at home, 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: did it cause you to move some production schedules up 318 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: or we arrange your content and to pull out old 319 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: content because you know, because people are watching more, that 320 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: means that you have to refresh a lot quicker. Correct 321 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: that that is correct. I mean, that's why I think 322 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I had to make a real quick suggesting like I had. 323 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: I had six productions that were about to go into production, 324 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: like big production, and three of them were starring Kevin. 325 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: So what I did like it was it was it 326 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: was like a quick pivot. But so what I did 327 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: is in my said so in my two thousand one plan, 328 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I had planned the boom moving to animation like a 329 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: big way from animates. Right, so I just okay, you know, 330 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: we have to the production the whole I call it 331 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: the animated up who were sitting at home with the 332 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: computers and internet, and we've got I've got I've got 333 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: three series in production, meaning and getting animated right now 334 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: because I already had writings and stuff right now. So 335 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: I just fast track. I put everything and everything in 336 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: fast track and started to focus on the animation right now, 337 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: right right now. And so that that's the part of 338 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: the platform that's working now now when I go to 339 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: the platform, because I'm gonna pull it up right here. 340 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, you got colds Balls well season three, Kevin 341 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Hard of course, and then you have you know, the 342 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Best, the fresh episodes, your favorite episodes, Kevin's favorites. 343 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just a it's just a 344 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: comedy in its finance. And so so are you chopping 345 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: up the specials? Are you are? You are you front 346 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: loading news specials, Where are you coming back? Because you know, 347 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: when they did that death Comedy jam, specially on people 348 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: doing comedy from their home, I was like, yeah, that 349 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: would work for me. So because everything everything's been shut down, 350 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: your live events been shut down, so that you know, 351 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: doing the animated is great, but you know, the hardest 352 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: soul of what you do is tied to audience interaction 353 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: exactly now. The thing about it, but I don't know 354 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: if I haven't talked to you, but the ither think 355 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I had back into you may not. You probably don't 356 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: know because I was playing above them, but I was 357 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: actually producing um Nick Canon Wild Now Tour, which we 358 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: had on the road. Yeah, we were playing and we 359 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: were knocking out ten ten eleven us down. Yeah, we 360 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: had to shut it down, But part of that is 361 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: we were going to shoot that as a special at 362 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: the end of the tour. That was the whole thing. 363 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: We had cameras going during the tour. UM and I 364 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: had some other life, so so obviously I had to 365 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: put a pin in that UM Interns the special that 366 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: was probably if I had to say, if anything to 367 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: hit my business. The hardest was that because I was 368 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: really going aggressively into the live business, with the Wild 369 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: Now Tour being the first one. UM and and so, 370 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: like you just admit to something. What's not working on 371 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: social digital is comedians trying to do stand up comedy 372 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: on I G and then musicians can do it and 373 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: they can sing, but trying to do stand about our 374 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: audience and just people try it. So it's just it's 375 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: not working at all. It's just not UM. So my 376 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: thing is, I've got attendant. I believe there's a window 377 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: in gonna be July, Augusteptember. I gotta go back and shoot. 378 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: But we don't know what's gonna happen in the fall. 379 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: The food is gonna come back in the winter. So 380 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: I when when we when we have this potential window, 381 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna knockout a budget productions, UM, stand 382 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: up and everything and live stuff. In terms of touring stuff, 383 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a two thousand one because 384 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I just don't see it by fall. Letting you know, 385 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: ten dialand people back in unless the league. I think 386 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the league, the NBA and the leagues are gonna take 387 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: the front and they're the ones who gonna have to 388 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: break the ground in terms. Okay, we can now go 389 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: to an arena, we can go to a stadium and 390 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: if if, if it's safe, then then I think you'll 391 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: see the live touring stuff open. Baga. But I still 392 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: think that's twenty one absolutely, especially when uh California said, hey, 393 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: we canceling everything, everything, concerts, football, error, everything has a 394 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: crowd and we cancel it. But I do believe I've 395 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: been an advocate of Jeff of saying, hey, we gotta 396 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: get back out there. We just gotta have the what 397 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: are the rules to be able to socialize? You know? 398 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: You know that's what That's what nobody's giving us right now. 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: And so when I look at the program and it's 400 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: being put out there and I've seen these stand ups online, 401 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up. When I see him online trying 402 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: to do stand up at the house, I go, this 403 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: is not working. Who is tapping the folks from this 404 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: just can't work. This can't work. And when they did that, 405 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, and it's a couple of people have called me, 406 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're sure you used to do that. Hey, hey, 407 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: used to, used to used to and definitely like coming 408 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: on on on your Instagram fee trying to do stand 409 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: up with no crowd. Okay, So I don't need that 410 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: level of an embarrassment in my life. So but but 411 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: you do have some great productions that you have complete. 412 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: It's the die Hard with you know, Jonathan and Kevin. 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: That's well, y'all, I know what I'll do, a play 414 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: on this man's last name, Kevin Hard die Hard talk 415 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to us about Ted and then ye y'all silly man, 416 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: y'all you you silly Kevin Hard, silly, just silly people 417 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: out there making a lot of money. Man. That's all. Well, 418 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what's funny was about that is that we 419 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: did that with Quimby. Quimby is the new swinging platform 420 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: that just launched about a month ago for promobile devices 421 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's killing movies. So basically basically shot in 422 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: eighty minute narrative movie in chapel. So there's there's ten 423 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: chat there's ten eight minute chapters. Um. The we finished 424 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: I think you sinised the right in February. UM with 425 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: the dynamic with Kevin and John was hilarious. That was 426 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: to say, probably one of his best UM performances, just 427 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: because the interact with John really raised level of the 428 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: acting and the performance but it's it's once again we're 429 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: experimented with new format with Quimby, which is the short 430 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: short form exactly it was. It was, it was a 431 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: great experience. It is a great we're actually working on 432 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: die Hard too right now it came out the world 433 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: or working on Dick Team. But now let's explaining about 434 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: what Quimby really does. Okay, it could be like ten 435 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes, and so that's what you said. Now, 436 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: are they like um Netflix where you can just binge 437 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: all the episodes or or they come out on a 438 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: daily basis or a weekly basis. Well, we'll see. That's 439 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: so what happened when they first started Um it was 440 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: they want to do it on a daily basis of 441 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: weeks versus bend. But I think the audience, you know, 442 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: they're looking at the audience metics and request. I think 443 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: that because I'm seeing some of the shows where they 444 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: put them all up as ben and so once again, 445 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: the audience, it's gonna drive how they're going to release 446 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the episode. So they came out with a model, but 447 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: then they're getting the audience feedback on how they want 448 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: to see. That's so I do believe they're gonna put 449 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: stuff out from a bench at that point, because that's 450 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: that's what the idea and how they used to watch 451 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: and stuff on from the scream at that point. Yeah, 452 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: that's really interesting because of the fact that you know, uh, 453 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, Disney was like that when Disney, because I 454 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: have Disney Plus of course, and I got Disney Plus 455 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: and uh Mandalarian, Okay, it came out every manner. It 456 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: came out every week, so I had to wait the 457 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: next week to see the episode. And it was really 458 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: smart because it was a really good series. And so 459 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: so I'm sure pretty sure that worked for them because 460 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: guess what, every week I was right there. Otherwise they 461 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: just have me for one one weekend and I was 462 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I was gone. And so but that was a really 463 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: really great series, The Mandalarian. Of course Netflix has started 464 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: the model of ben watching bench watching. But I think 465 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: that because of quimbies. It's a short form. It forces 466 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: you to want to see the next one to keep 467 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: your energy going. You know, it's like, okay, let's fifteen minute, 468 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: d I need to see something else here. I got 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: time on my hands and so so so that's that's 470 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: why it's really great. And when I look at Kevin 471 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: and what he's done. I saw him, of course, so 472 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean Hobbs and Shaw and who's funny in that? 473 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: And and this guy is just this just a great person, 474 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: but a person who And I was doing some interview 475 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, I really believe that 476 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: Kevin will with an oscar in his career because he 477 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: really really can act. He has a he has an, 478 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: he has a. He said, He's like our version of 479 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: what Robin Williams was in that era, because Robin Williams 480 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: could be very funny, he could act and very serious, 481 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: and Kevin is to splaying those same qualities in his 482 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: own way. I'm not saying he's Robin Williams, but he's 483 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Hot in his own way and with those qualities. 484 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: But one of the qualities I really liked about you 485 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: is that your ability to give back. And the last 486 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: time we've talked about the internship program you created at 487 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: l O L and how it would provide opportunities for 488 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: young people to build their resume and experience. What is 489 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the update on that program, Jeff, Actually, since the last 490 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: time we talked, I actually kept for my summer intern program, 491 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: which is basically intern program for social media and market. 492 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: Um you y'all bringing like four to six students and 493 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: actually we're putting together our our team for this summer. 494 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: But I actually I actually kept two of them while 495 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: they were at school. Okay, okay, look they were doing 496 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: so good. So I had them doing you could kick 497 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: him to the curve, you could kick him to the curve. 498 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: I had to keep him going like they were doing 499 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: such a good job. They were doing such a good job. 500 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: I kept two of them school. What's obviously is helping 501 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: pay for their school. But they so they worked for me. 502 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: They do like ten hours a week from you know, 503 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: from school, and so they stayed on and then they're 504 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: coming back the summer. But they were doing really well, 505 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: they really picked up everything. Um, and I literally kept 506 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: them on so help. What happened is those two will 507 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: help lead this new team that I'm bringing in in 508 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: the summer, right right, right right, And now you got 509 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: to be the team leaders. Now is it the way 510 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: that Okay, they have my listeners and other people. How 511 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: could one can want participate to want to apply or 512 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: how does this work? Yeah? Well, well let me tell 513 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you what I was I was on 514 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: the way to doing. Um, we so we when we 515 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: were shooting our Kenny the Baxtor. So when we finished 516 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that hard we were in Atlantic. Kevin had another movie, 517 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: um he was gonna do, so he was gonna be 518 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: in Atlanta until until Jeanne and so we were gonna 519 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: shoot because we have an interview show that Kevin is 520 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: doing kind of like the Dave Letterman show called Heart 521 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: to Heart, and so we were gonna shoot these in Atlanta. 522 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: But what I was going to do was set up 523 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: a program at Spellman and more House to have students 524 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: work on the work, actually work on the productions. Hemple 525 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: was marketing like a whole curriculum because we were gonna 526 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: be there for three or four months. So obviously we 527 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: can't do that. So I gotta I gotta see some milk. 528 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: But I was I was going to accelerate, like because 529 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: we have a lot of productions and a lot of 530 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: people in school don't get production. I was going to 531 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: have a kind of a production internship program. Also. Um 532 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: now I just I don't know if we're gonna go 533 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: back on that, so we don't. Well, I have to 534 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: figure out something else to do during the summer on it. 535 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: But yes, there is the opportunity for other students to 536 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: do to do different things right now, be centered around 537 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: social media until I figure out what when the production 538 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: strategy is gonna be Jeff, Uh, you know every okay, 539 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: year four okay, I know it's gonna be a different 540 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: Jeff clinic and story of success and pivity and uh 541 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: and making a difference because I know that every year 542 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: you've you know, because you pitched some ideas of me 543 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: participating in certain formatics to reach on has changed and 544 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't. And I understand that I would relate to that, 545 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: and I understand that you are clearly understanding that. Look, 546 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: when I walk in this room, it may be Tuesday, 547 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: but it may be a different tues than who it 548 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: was last Tuesday, and be prepared to make those adjustments. 549 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: And congratulations man. As always, I'm talking to Jeff Clanner, 550 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: the president and founder cod Black Films and Digital cod 551 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Black Digital. That's when I met him. Now he's the 552 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: president of Laugh Out Loud and Heartbaged Heartbeat Digital. He's 553 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: changing the game and also changing lives. 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