WEBVTT - #378 - Band Name Origins with Rascal Flatts, Dan + Shay, NSYNC, Old Dominion + More! 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.040 Episode three eight Band Name Origins. It's a really cool 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.840 Bobby Cast all about how your favorite bands chose the name. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.440 On this episode, we've taken stories from episodes over the 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.560 years and years of various band members here talking about 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.040 the origin of their name and how they settle on 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.720 our name. And this is all from us, right, We're 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.720 not pulling stuff off YouTube that were like, this is 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.000 all stories we've been given over the years from the 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.280 Bobby Cast. That's pretty cool. We have like a library 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.919 that so many episodes. You know, deciding on a name 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.720 for your band is a pretty big deal. You know, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.800 it's like naming your kid or pet. You get one 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.480 shot really, unless you break up, that's it. So you're 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.480 you're out there and there are some terrible band names. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.200 There's some good band names, but then their names who knows, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:47.920 because they were famous, they're just normal, so we don't 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.080 know if it's a good name or not. That's just 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.360 who we know him as. Some of the bands had 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.240 controversy with their names and they had crazy names and 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.040 had to change their name after they got famous, which 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.960 but we talked about that in the Lady A. Yeah, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.840 we're talking about that one mh so a lot of 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.800 that has happened. You'll hear stories from Rascal Flats, Little 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.960 Big Town Dan and Shade Low Cash, Old Dominion, Lady 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.560 A in SNT creed like we had all them on 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.240 how they got their names? What about Bobby Bones and 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.679 the Raging Idiots? How did that come about? When I 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.680 was in high school, it was the name of our 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.760 little group because we were the Concubine Kings. First, we 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.360 don't even know what that meant, which just from the Bible, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.080 but then I realized concubines were like prostitutes. Oh, we 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.320 were the Concubine Kings. And then we because we were 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:34.360 playing churches and so you can't name yourself the Concubine Kings. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.840 And I was like, yeah, that's kind of idiotic. And 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.640 I just wanted a word that was funny, and ragings 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.399 sounded funny. I don't know, but I called us the 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:45.480 Raging Idiots. And we played churches and we did parodies 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.920 made for church because we didn't want we don't good, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.040 and we did instead of bad to the bone, it 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.160 was easy to play. We did There's Gold up above 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.520 the Donna, No No. So we would play churches and 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.920 a couple of talent shows and that's where the raging 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.560 and then I quit them, although it wasn't really anything, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.880 and then I started to do it in my solo 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.360 com I would be like, oh yeah on the Raging Idiot, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.000 gonna show him play, and then I was it and 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.320 everybody disappointed. So I started to learn how to play 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.120 guitar because I didn't want to do parodies over other 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.880 people's music. So it never was really really really a 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.160 thing until Eddie and Eddie had a band too called 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.560 Rum Tied. There were arch Nemesis and we got into 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.079 a huge fight. We killed each other, only to the 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.880 left standing um. But I went and played with the 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.640 Eddie's band once. We did a couple of songs and 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.680 then we were like, well, let's just him and I. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.600 Let's just be the Raging Idiots. So we were just 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.520 the Raging Idiots. I never wanted it to be Bobby 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.320 Bones and raging idiots. That was never the plan. Well, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.959 we signed a record deal and the head of the 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.960 label was said, hey, you should really put your name 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.640 on it, and I was like, well, not do it. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.760 But then we started touring and I would do comedy 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.760 before the Raging Idiots, and the thing would say Bobby 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.360 Bones and the Raging Idiots on the Marquis, and so 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.000 he was like, see they're even writing his Bibones and 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.440 the Raging Idiots. No, no no, it's me and the Raging Idiots. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.360 And he said, I'll tell you what the first record, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.880 let's put your name want it so people can search 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.040 it and I'll know it too if they happen to 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.000 come across it. And then we were stuck with it. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.880 And so Eddie's hilarious. All he's not worth of the 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.760 Raging Idiots, but he's It's now it's like me and 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.280 Eddie and Eddie's all the raging idiots, which is not it. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.760 It's like Hoodie and the Blowfish. Um, so that's how 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.400 the Raging Idiots came about. That's it. And that story 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.720 sucks compared to some of these. It's funny with parodies, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.239 even from the beginning though me. Yeah, yeah, because I 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.200 don't know how to do music anything. I don't do 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.280 anything musically. I'm gonna play anything. I still don't really, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.880 just enough to get by. But that's that's how the 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.600 whole thing started. Doing parodies in church, not funny, god like, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.960 and we were terrible, all right. So it's a good episode. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.960 Thank you guys for being here. Let's go all right. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.720 Kicking off with Dan and Shay. Dan talked about how 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.400 they struggled choosing a name before finally settling on Dan 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.120 and Shay. I just think back because all these memories 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.320 are hitting now, because that's right when I moved to town. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.560 It's it right about the time you guys went on 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.000 with Warner and became a thing. But again, you weren't 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.920 Dan and Show. You were Dan and Shap Yeah, Todd, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.000 just friends still looking for a band name. Yeah, that's crazy. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.200 We were honestly under SoundCloud. I don't know. I hope 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.200 it's private because somebody's gonna go out there and find it. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.560 We were on SoundCloud as ragtop Red. That was our name. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.760 We were like big Tim McGraw fans and we're like, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.360 well we has red rag Toop. What if we like 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.080 flip it rag top Red. There have been much of 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.000 our names. There is one. We were in Austin, Texas. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.520 We did south By Southwest and uh, we were down there. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.680 It was I don't remember exactly the timing of this. No, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.839 this was the first. We've done south By Southwest twice. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.040 The second time Justin Bieber came out on stage with us. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.720 It was the whole thing. Yeah, that was crazy. The 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.400 first time we did it. There's a picture of it. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.360 There was only we played a showcase and like Shay's 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.560 lawyer at the time, this guy Jim's I'm Walt the man, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.000 great guy. Uh. He was like, come down to do 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.279 this showcase and we can hang out. And we were like, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.400 this is awesome. You know. We went down and there 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.200 was literally three people in the crowd. My lawyer, Jonathan 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.160 He's the man, Jim's I'mwalt, and Paul d. Giovanni, the 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.360 guy boys like girls keeps coming up in this sit suation. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.839 I don't know why he was there. I think he 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.000 was just I think the band was on a break 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.000 or something at that point and he was just hanging out. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.320 He was literally standing in the crowd and there's We 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.679 watched this the other night. We were cutting together videos 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.960 for Tequila and my buddy Pete Tracy, who does like 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.800 all our content, he found a video that somebody had 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.360 taken and it was showed us like rocking on stage. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.680 I'm wearing like a Boston Red Sox hat and we're 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.280 dancing around like we've got something going on, and he 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.520 zumes out. Literally no one in the crowd. Was so embarrassing. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.640 But so we go to p F Changs after that 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.600 little showcase and Zombie's like, you guys are poised to 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.080 be the next big stars, Like whatever, we need to 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.160 come up with a name. So he's got his little iPad. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.680 We're sitting at the roundtable in the corner of PF 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.000 Chains in Austin, and he's like, I got it, and 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.000 we're sitting there like he might have it. This is awesome, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.480 let's hear him out. He's like not showing us. He's 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.359 got a big surprise, and he's typing it out on 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.800 this little iPad and he flips it around. And his 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.880 big pitch to us was that the name should be 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.560 Schools Out. Yeah, so like if we ever get a 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.880 big Dirk's Bentley or something and can do the you know, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:08.840 country night, that's funny. I remember that, man. So when 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.560 you guys finally decided on Dan and Shay the name, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.920 the name, like we're really just gonna it probably had 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.800 to be like, well, we couldn't come up with the name, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.520 so we're just gonna be d Yeah, what was that 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.840 conversation and who was the one that said, Okay, we 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.760 think it just should be Dan and Jay? Was it Espo? 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.640 I don't remember exactly how it happened, but we are managers. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.520 We we work with Scooter braun Um you know which. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.000 By the way, it's funny because I was a Scooter 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.800 two weeks ago and Scooter goes hold on and facetimes. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.480 He's the king of FaceTime. While I'm sitting with Scooter 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.480 in Los Angeles. I don't know where you guys were. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.360 You were driving. You were driving though we were on 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.560 the bus, I think you're doing or was I at home? 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.359 I don't know, well whatever, I remember it. So Scooter 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.880 is part of the Hey, we're gonna name you guys, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.839 Dan and Shay. Yeah, he was part of that. He 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.800 was like, you guys are like recognizable by your names. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.840 Because we had met with Scooter. We'd flown out. We 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.000 had like insane experiences at Scooter's place, like Scooter, by 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:08.080 the way, it's Justin Bieber, Kanye Carly class manager, like yeah, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.000 grand everybody, and we would like go out and jam 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.800 with Justin Bieber and Selena would be playing guitar and 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.440 singing and doing all the stuff and like crazy like 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.600 these nights that you see and you know at HBO 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.800 series like crazy stuff. And uh, he was always just 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.800 like everybody knows you guys is Dan and Shay. It's cool, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.480 Like for the branding and instead of having some band 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.720 name that you have to reinvent some new moniker, it's like, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.080 why not just go by your names? Then people will 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.480 know you guys and do whatever. We're like, we don't 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.160 have any other ideas, Sure, let's go with it. Karen 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.360 Fairchild from a Little Big Town talked about how they 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.000 tried to find a name that reflected their music. Who 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.520 was the person who said a little big town that name, yeah, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.200 a little bit um it was. It was a publishing company, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.200 a little bit town Publishing And did they go away 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.960 before you get the name? And so you thought that's cool, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.480 keep it. Well, we we were messing with town names 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.280 because of like Kimberly and Jimmy and Philip are like 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.640 from tiny, tiny, tiny towns and I was a little 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.760 bit of the city girl, and we were trying to 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.920 find names that reflected the music. And somebody turned over 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.600 a CD and it's a little big town Publishing and 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:24.120 we're like, maybe that's the name. You know. Again, you 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:29.520 become kind of names, you know what I mean, Like 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.440 you said about Florida Georgia line or it was not, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.080 but now a Little Big Towns is a name. Yeah, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.800 it's just the name of the group that you hear 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.880 all the time. It's not even weird. But I would 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.840 think that the first time, Little Big town that was 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.640 weird too. Yeah, it's not inside it is. Think about 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.520 the first time. It is very selfish thing for me 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:49.880 to tell you to think about think about the first 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.280 time and you won't remember it, but that you ever 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.079 heard my stupid name Bobby Bones, Like who is that 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.640 a pirate? That a porn star? Like? So is Bobby 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.800 Bones your real name? No? No, no, I would like Bobby, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.360 asked so, and so I was given that name when 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.120 I was like seventeen. And I gotta get her copy 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.920 of my book on the way out. I'll tell I'll 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.560 sign it for him when she lives. Um. Yeah, no, no, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.280 I'm sorry, I was. I know, I was, I know 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.080 it wasn't It's only on Wikipedia. Don't worry. No, no no, no, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.640 that's not my real name and I don't even hide it, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.720 but it's Um, it was forced on me. I was 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.960 seventeen and so like you can be Bobby Bones, Bobby z. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:24.760 I was a kid. I don't know. I was like, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.559 well Bones at least sounds like an actual person. And 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.079 so everywhere I was I went, I was connected to 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.599 somewhere else because I went from Hot Springs, Arkansas to 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.920 Little Rock shared some listening audience Little Rock to Austin, Texas, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.320 and I was already doing nights, and then Austin I 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.160 was started doing a national night show. And then the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.439 morning everything was connected. I could never leave the stupid name. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 Everybody went to had the stupid name. It's not stupid 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.000 now now it's not because it's normal, because it's normal, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.800 and it's because it is something you know, like it 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.280 becomes well, I feel like a little hurt, you know 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.160 my real name, like a little bit and my father. Look, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.959 I'm gonna be honest and be selfish a second, my 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.800 fans a little hurt you know my real name. That's 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.360 a I didn't want to hurt your feelings, and we 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.240 should that. That's honesty. When you can openly ask in 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.520 her feelings, when you can put other people at the risk, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.479 could see that means you're being open and honest, I'm sorry, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.720 why would you be sorry you didn't know. Charles Kelly 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.280 was in and he told me about Lady A and 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.840 the inspiration behind the original name, Lady Annabelle Um and 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.800 how they wanted a southern name that made people wonder. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.440 And Charles also opens up about the controversy behind the 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.400 original name as we reflect back for a second on 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.400 the origin of the band. Whenever you guys name your 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.120 still and you call yourself Lady Annabellum, I would assume 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.000 most people think that she's Lady Annabella. Yeah, oh yeah. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.479 And I mean, which is so funny. I mean, obviously 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.200 with all that has gone on with their name. I 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:52.280 mean it was the most silly, innocent way of naming 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.160 the band. Literally, we're taking these pictures from his Annabellum 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.920 Holmes coming up with a name. We were about to 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.000 call ourselves Spring spring Day or something. We didn't know 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.480 we were just like all these names. Did you guys 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.679 name yourself though, or did someone say that we did? 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.120 We did? When we're looking through these pictures, like, that's 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.040 a beautiful Anabelle Im home right there, I was like 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.320 an about it sounds southern. It just sounds graceful. It 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.319 sounds like muscle shoals or something. You know. I pictured 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.640 like I pictured like Savannah and this thing. I don't 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.880 know why I said lady, but I guess I was 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.400 thinking like Scarlett oor Hair. I mean, it's so funny. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.440 If I could go back to what made because I 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.640 was I came up with that name, and I remember 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.840 like saying and I said it today and he goes, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.840 that sounds cool, and I was like, people are just 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.600 gonna be intrigued. At the time, all you wanted were 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.199 people to go, what what what? What's the lady Annabelle? 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.079 And I was like, man, you know there's always that 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.480 are like cool bands like Jane's Addiction, all these like 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.760 like it gives it a little bit of mysterious vibe 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.040 and um, and I was like, maybe there's this like 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.000 haunted lady that used to live there, this thing I 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.200 don't know laying about and it just sounds southern. And 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:00.760 and then I didn't really think about it. And when 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.360 we started going on tour, it's like, oh, so she's 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.360 the lead singer, and I was like, I was like, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.680 I'm an idiot, Like, I mean, if I could go back, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.880 I mean, especially when we were going through this whole 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.480 thing with her name change. I can't tell you how 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.280 many nights I would like stay up going and I 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.040 would come up with names in my head, like why 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.640 didn't I call myself, you know, freaking green Grass the 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.920 screen because it was like it was so and how 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.760 do you how do you? How do you? How can 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.400 you convince people that it was just like it just 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.240 came out of the thin blue er. I don't know 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.360 why it just did. It just came out and it 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.240 sounded southern. And I remember having so many people going 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.319 I won't name the artist, but I remember having like 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:39.679 two or three artists, a like, do y'all think you 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.840 all would be as successful without such a cool name? 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.400 You know what I mean? And it was like for 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.560 them it just felt cool. It just felt us. I 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.080 don't know. I can remember I was working and I 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.840 was still doing pop and hip hop in Austin, and 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.199 you guys were doing a radio tour because you'd bring 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.640 by the little pictures signed and it's very early on, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.000 and I was like, Lady Annabelle on, what the heck? 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.160 Because he even is that? But I was curious enough 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.920 to go and check it out, I know, And you know, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.880 And I don't think we thought past that. We We 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.240 didn't never thought past like what's gonna make someone just 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.760 push the click on my space and say what let 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.679 me hear it? And I don't know even thought it's 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:18.880 kind of cool that it would be like oh and 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.680 then a guy singing, I don't know what. Maybe why 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.360 when you guys going you play in the open for 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.560 your brother and it's the three of you. Were you 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.640 doing what you and Dave did where you were just 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.040 playing under your name or did you even have a 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.559 name or did you have that name? But we had 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.520 that we have that name by then we first before 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.280 our first gig, I mean, we initially started. I think 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.880 are are my Space. It might have been under Springdale 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.320 or something like that. I think it was a road 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.920 called Springdale. And I remember like telling that to somebodys 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.800 or like that sounds cheesy, and you know, and we're like, oh, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.600 it sounds a little bit too much like Sugarland too, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.920 you know, I mean, We're just the name is it's 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.960 so hard to come with the name because everything, I mean, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.520 the Beatles, Eagles, you know, all the mascots are basically 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.560 taking yeah and uh, and so you know, we didn't 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.840 want to be like two dudes in the Chick or 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.160 Hillary Dave, you know, Charles Band. So it's just like, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.800 you know, you could just come up with this name. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:15.199 But and yeah, it was just very intriguing to people 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.360 and it worked. The last things I'm gonna ask you 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.800 are a bit about the name change, but not really 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.880 what you expect about the name changel. I don't mind 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.040 at all. I'm not I'm really not that interested in 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.960 in the drama of that. I mean, I think we 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.120 kind of all saw that play out. But it's like 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.960 all the murch you had with Lady Annabellum written, like 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.320 those are the questions I have, Like what the crap 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.920 do you do with It's like a world series team 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.800 to finish a second, like you got it all printed out? 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.280 What do you do with it? Then? I don't know. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.600 I mean, listen, I love you know. I just think 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.440 we're in a time now where like when you know better, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.760 you know, when you know better, you do better. And 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.040 we had never thought about that name. I mean I 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.280 had talks with so many of my you know, my 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.960 black friends, and they were like, you know, I never 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.680 really thought about it. But when I look at it, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.800 you know, like because I, oh, you guys, and I 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.280 know that's not but they were like I could see 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.320 how that just and I don't know, man, with everything 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:07.680 that's going on, it's like, I don't want to be 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.640 a part of any I don't want to have anything 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.960 associated with us that would make any human being think 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.400 that that was any part of our hearts because it 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.320 could not be any more different. Um. I just think 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.080 it's just one of those I call it one of 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.120 those little blind spots. Especially when you grow up in 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.200 the South. You're like you kind of you kind of 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.000 in a weird way romanticize some some things around here 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.280 that you're not necessarily associating it with the bad. You're 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.320 associating it with like the grace this, and you know 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.440 what I mean. And I think that was kind of 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.080 naively kind of where we were in that and and 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.640 there's a lot of people that I thought we folded 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.520 or whatever. And it's like, well, you know what, then 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:48.680 if you if you don't want to be a part 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.600 of the conversation of change and just opening ourselves up 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.800 to like making a better world, and that's fine, you know, 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.760 dig your heels in. But that was what it was 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.360 all about and yeah, I mean probably a lot of 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.600 teachers out there. There was a lot of like all 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.000 kinds of stuff we you know, and people still will 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.880 call us lady and A Belle. I slipped and have 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.400 done that on the opera stage and I was like, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.840 I was like, God, no, listen, that's okay. I mean, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.320 same thing with the Dixie Chicks. They never had There's 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.400 no way they had any intention of that being offensive. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:20.640 And there's a lot of people are like, well, it's 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.720 not offensive. It's like, well, no, kid, it's not offensive 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.760 to you. And lady and Bella is not offensive to you. Listen. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.440 It wasn't offensive to me. It's not necessarily I don't 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.440 associate those things with that word, but a lot of 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.240 people do. And when you can make a change, especially 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.320 when people called us, you know, lady A, that probably 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.280 would have been the most difficult thing if we didn't, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.200 because think about the brand recognition. That would have been 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.280 the most difficult thing, if we didn't have a name 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.120 that already everyone associated. I mean from the day day one. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.200 I mean I remember, like the first time we went 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.280 on Today's Show, it was like Lady A taking over 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.120 the pavilion. This was like two thousand seven, so everyone's 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.520 been calling us lady A. But it was a very 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:04.439 difficult time. I mean really wild Um never been in 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:09.960 our lives kind of misinterpreted like you like that or whatever, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.480 or you know, and because it's always been about the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.359 music and that's that's what we wanted about. That was 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.520 one reason you know that wrote that song on Talk 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:17.679 of This Town was like, I don't want to be 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.200 the talk of this town. It's got a little double 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.080 meaning there, um. But man, we learned a lot about 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.399 ourselves and it kind of made us even more passionate 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.959 about being a part of of a band that represents 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.280 love and a welcome environment and and putting out music 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.960 that makes people feel good. I don't know. So for us, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.000 it's like I know there's something beautiful that's going to happen, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.640 and I know there's something beautiful that's that's out there 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.840 that you know, we're we're all, we all are going 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.919 to make changes and people are always so resistant to it, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.920 and uh, I don't know. I just I'm hoping that 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.760 there's gonna be some beauty from the from the name 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.960 change at some point, because I will say right now, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:01.600 it's it's been it's been pretty tough to be misinterpreted 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.119 so bad with your intentions, especially people that I don't know, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.240 you never tried to know, you never even tried, and 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.320 they're only basing their only knowledge of you off a 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.520 headline that they read ext and and and and trust me, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.640 there's so much more to that in a very crazy 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:22.240