Speaker 1: Episode three eight Band Name Origins. It's a really cool
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast all about how your favorite bands chose the name.
Speaker 1: On this episode, we've taken stories from episodes over the
Speaker 1: years and years of various band members here talking about
Speaker 1: the origin of their name and how they settle on
Speaker 1: our name. And this is all from us, right, We're
Speaker 1: not pulling stuff off YouTube that were like, this is
Speaker 1: all stories we've been given over the years from the
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. That's pretty cool. We have like a library
Speaker 1: that so many episodes. You know, deciding on a name
Speaker 1: for your band is a pretty big deal. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like naming your kid or pet. You get one
Speaker 1: shot really, unless you break up, that's it. So you're
Speaker 1: you're out there and there are some terrible band names.
Speaker 1: There's some good band names, but then their names who knows,
Speaker 1: because they were famous, they're just normal, so we don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a good name or not. That's just
Speaker 1: who we know him as. Some of the bands had
Speaker 1: controversy with their names and they had crazy names and
Speaker 1: had to change their name after they got famous, which
Speaker 1: but we talked about that in the Lady A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about that one mh so a lot of
Speaker 1: that has happened. You'll hear stories from Rascal Flats, Little
Speaker 1: Big Town Dan and Shade Low Cash, Old Dominion, Lady
Speaker 1: A in SNT creed like we had all them on
Speaker 1: how they got their names? What about Bobby Bones and
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots? How did that come about? When I
Speaker 1: was in high school, it was the name of our
Speaker 1: little group because we were the Concubine Kings. First, we
Speaker 1: don't even know what that meant, which just from the Bible,
Speaker 1: but then I realized concubines were like prostitutes. Oh, we
Speaker 1: were the Concubine Kings. And then we because we were
Speaker 1: playing churches and so you can't name yourself the Concubine Kings.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's kind of idiotic. And
Speaker 1: I just wanted a word that was funny, and ragings
Speaker 1: sounded funny. I don't know, but I called us the
Speaker 1: Raging Idiots. And we played churches and we did parodies
Speaker 1: made for church because we didn't want we don't good,
Speaker 1: and we did instead of bad to the bone, it
Speaker 1: was easy to play. We did There's Gold up above
Speaker 1: the Donna, No No. So we would play churches and
Speaker 1: a couple of talent shows and that's where the raging
Speaker 1: and then I quit them, although it wasn't really anything,
Speaker 1: and then I started to do it in my solo
Speaker 1: com I would be like, oh yeah on the Raging Idiot,
Speaker 1: gonna show him play, and then I was it and
Speaker 1: everybody disappointed. So I started to learn how to play
Speaker 1: guitar because I didn't want to do parodies over other
Speaker 1: people's music. So it never was really really really a
Speaker 1: thing until Eddie and Eddie had a band too called
Speaker 1: Rum Tied. There were arch Nemesis and we got into
Speaker 1: a huge fight. We killed each other, only to the
Speaker 1: left standing um. But I went and played with the
Speaker 1: Eddie's band once. We did a couple of songs and
Speaker 1: then we were like, well, let's just him and I.
Speaker 1: Let's just be the Raging Idiots. So we were just
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots. I never wanted it to be Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones and raging idiots. That was never the plan. Well,
Speaker 1: we signed a record deal and the head of the
Speaker 1: label was said, hey, you should really put your name
Speaker 1: on it, and I was like, well, not do it.
Speaker 1: But then we started touring and I would do comedy
Speaker 1: before the Raging Idiots, and the thing would say Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones and the Raging Idiots on the Marquis, and so
Speaker 1: he was like, see they're even writing his Bibones and
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots. No, no no, it's me and the Raging Idiots.
Speaker 1: And he said, I'll tell you what the first record,
Speaker 1: let's put your name want it so people can search
Speaker 1: it and I'll know it too if they happen to
Speaker 1: come across it. And then we were stuck with it.
Speaker 1: And so Eddie's hilarious. All he's not worth of the
Speaker 1: Raging Idiots, but he's It's now it's like me and
Speaker 1: Eddie and Eddie's all the raging idiots, which is not it.
Speaker 1: It's like Hoodie and the Blowfish. Um, so that's how
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots came about. That's it. And that story
Speaker 1: sucks compared to some of these. It's funny with parodies,
Speaker 1: even from the beginning though me. Yeah, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: don't know how to do music anything. I don't do
Speaker 1: anything musically. I'm gonna play anything. I still don't really,
Speaker 1: just enough to get by. But that's that's how the
Speaker 1: whole thing started. Doing parodies in church, not funny, god like,
Speaker 1: and we were terrible, all right. So it's a good episode.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for being here. Let's go all right.
Speaker 1: Kicking off with Dan and Shay. Dan talked about how
Speaker 1: they struggled choosing a name before finally settling on Dan
Speaker 1: and Shay. I just think back because all these memories
Speaker 1: are hitting now, because that's right when I moved to town.
Speaker 1: It's it right about the time you guys went on
Speaker 1: with Warner and became a thing. But again, you weren't
Speaker 1: Dan and Show. You were Dan and Shap Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: just friends still looking for a band name. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: We were honestly under SoundCloud. I don't know. I hope
Speaker 1: it's private because somebody's gonna go out there and find it.
Speaker 1: We were on SoundCloud as ragtop Red. That was our name.
Speaker 1: We were like big Tim McGraw fans and we're like,
Speaker 1: well we has red rag Toop. What if we like
Speaker 1: flip it rag top Red. There have been much of
Speaker 1: our names. There is one. We were in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: We did south By Southwest and uh, we were down there.
Speaker 1: It was I don't remember exactly the timing of this. No,
Speaker 1: this was the first. We've done south By Southwest twice.
Speaker 1: The second time Justin Bieber came out on stage with us.
Speaker 1: It was the whole thing. Yeah, that was crazy. The
Speaker 1: first time we did it. There's a picture of it.
Speaker 1: There was only we played a showcase and like Shay's
Speaker 1: lawyer at the time, this guy Jim's I'm Walt the man,
Speaker 1: great guy. Uh. He was like, come down to do
Speaker 1: this showcase and we can hang out. And we were like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. You know. We went down and there
Speaker 1: was literally three people in the crowd. My lawyer, Jonathan
Speaker 1: He's the man, Jim's I'mwalt, and Paul d. Giovanni, the
Speaker 1: guy boys like girls keeps coming up in this sit suation.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he was there. I think he
Speaker 1: was just I think the band was on a break
Speaker 1: or something at that point and he was just hanging out.
Speaker 1: He was literally standing in the crowd and there's We
Speaker 1: watched this the other night. We were cutting together videos
Speaker 1: for Tequila and my buddy Pete Tracy, who does like
Speaker 1: all our content, he found a video that somebody had
Speaker 1: taken and it was showed us like rocking on stage.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing like a Boston Red Sox hat and we're
Speaker 1: dancing around like we've got something going on, and he
Speaker 1: zumes out. Literally no one in the crowd. Was so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But so we go to p F Changs after that
Speaker 1: little showcase and Zombie's like, you guys are poised to
Speaker 1: be the next big stars, Like whatever, we need to
Speaker 1: come up with a name. So he's got his little iPad.
Speaker 1: We're sitting at the roundtable in the corner of PF
Speaker 1: Chains in Austin, and he's like, I got it, and
Speaker 1: we're sitting there like he might have it. This is awesome,
Speaker 1: let's hear him out. He's like not showing us. He's
Speaker 1: got a big surprise, and he's typing it out on
Speaker 1: this little iPad and he flips it around. And his
Speaker 1: big pitch to us was that the name should be
Speaker 1: Schools Out. Yeah, so like if we ever get a
Speaker 1: big Dirk's Bentley or something and can do the you know,
Speaker 1: country night, that's funny. I remember that, man. So when
Speaker 1: you guys finally decided on Dan and Shay the name,
Speaker 1: the name, like we're really just gonna it probably had
Speaker 1: to be like, well, we couldn't come up with the name,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna be d Yeah, what was that
Speaker 1: conversation and who was the one that said, Okay, we
Speaker 1: think it just should be Dan and Jay? Was it Espo?
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how it happened, but we are managers.
Speaker 1: We we work with Scooter braun Um you know which.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's funny because I was a Scooter
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and Scooter goes hold on and facetimes.
Speaker 1: He's the king of FaceTime. While I'm sitting with Scooter
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I don't know where you guys were.
Speaker 1: You were driving. You were driving though we were on
Speaker 1: the bus, I think you're doing or was I at home?
Speaker 1: I don't know, well whatever, I remember it. So Scooter
Speaker 1: is part of the Hey, we're gonna name you guys,
Speaker 1: Dan and Shay. Yeah, he was part of that. He
Speaker 1: was like, you guys are like recognizable by your names.
Speaker 1: Because we had met with Scooter. We'd flown out. We
Speaker 1: had like insane experiences at Scooter's place, like Scooter, by
Speaker 1: the way, it's Justin Bieber, Kanye Carly class manager, like yeah,
Speaker 1: grand everybody, and we would like go out and jam
Speaker 1: with Justin Bieber and Selena would be playing guitar and
Speaker 1: singing and doing all the stuff and like crazy like
Speaker 1: these nights that you see and you know at HBO
Speaker 1: series like crazy stuff. And uh, he was always just
Speaker 1: like everybody knows you guys is Dan and Shay. It's cool,
Speaker 1: Like for the branding and instead of having some band
Speaker 1: name that you have to reinvent some new moniker, it's like,
Speaker 1: why not just go by your names? Then people will
Speaker 1: know you guys and do whatever. We're like, we don't
Speaker 1: have any other ideas, Sure, let's go with it. Karen
Speaker 1: Fairchild from a Little Big Town talked about how they
Speaker 1: tried to find a name that reflected their music. Who
Speaker 1: was the person who said a little big town that name, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit um it was. It was a publishing company,
Speaker 1: a little bit town Publishing And did they go away
Speaker 1: before you get the name? And so you thought that's cool,
Speaker 1: keep it. Well, we we were messing with town names
Speaker 1: because of like Kimberly and Jimmy and Philip are like
Speaker 1: from tiny, tiny, tiny towns and I was a little
Speaker 1: bit of the city girl, and we were trying to
Speaker 1: find names that reflected the music. And somebody turned over
Speaker 1: a CD and it's a little big town Publishing and
Speaker 1: we're like, maybe that's the name. You know. Again, you
Speaker 1: become kind of names, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you said about Florida Georgia line or it was not,
Speaker 1: but now a Little Big Towns is a name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the name of the group that you hear
Speaker 1: all the time. It's not even weird. But I would
Speaker 1: think that the first time, Little Big town that was
Speaker 1: weird too. Yeah, it's not inside it is. Think about
Speaker 1: the first time. It is very selfish thing for me
Speaker 1: to tell you to think about think about the first
Speaker 1: time and you won't remember it, but that you ever
Speaker 1: heard my stupid name Bobby Bones, Like who is that
Speaker 1: a pirate? That a porn star? Like? So is Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones your real name? No? No, no, I would like Bobby,
Speaker 1: asked so, and so I was given that name when
Speaker 1: I was like seventeen. And I gotta get her copy
Speaker 1: of my book on the way out. I'll tell I'll
Speaker 1: sign it for him when she lives. Um. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was. I know, I was, I know
Speaker 1: it wasn't It's only on Wikipedia. Don't worry. No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not my real name and I don't even hide it,
Speaker 1: but it's Um, it was forced on me. I was
Speaker 1: seventeen and so like you can be Bobby Bones, Bobby z.
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I don't know. I was like,
Speaker 1: well Bones at least sounds like an actual person. And
Speaker 1: so everywhere I was I went, I was connected to
Speaker 1: somewhere else because I went from Hot Springs, Arkansas to
Speaker 1: Little Rock shared some listening audience Little Rock to Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: and I was already doing nights, and then Austin I
Speaker 1: was started doing a national night show. And then the
Speaker 1: morning everything was connected. I could never leave the stupid name.
Speaker 1: Everybody went to had the stupid name. It's not stupid
Speaker 1: now now it's not because it's normal, because it's normal,
Speaker 1: and it's because it is something you know, like it
Speaker 1: becomes well, I feel like a little hurt, you know
Speaker 1: my real name, like a little bit and my father. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest and be selfish a second, my
Speaker 1: fans a little hurt you know my real name. That's
Speaker 1: a I didn't want to hurt your feelings, and we
Speaker 1: should that. That's honesty. When you can openly ask in
Speaker 1: her feelings, when you can put other people at the risk,
Speaker 1: could see that means you're being open and honest, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: why would you be sorry you didn't know. Charles Kelly
Speaker 1: was in and he told me about Lady A and
Speaker 1: the inspiration behind the original name, Lady Annabelle Um and
Speaker 1: how they wanted a southern name that made people wonder.
Speaker 1: And Charles also opens up about the controversy behind the
Speaker 1: original name as we reflect back for a second on
Speaker 1: the origin of the band. Whenever you guys name your
Speaker 1: still and you call yourself Lady Annabellum, I would assume
Speaker 1: most people think that she's Lady Annabella. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean, which is so funny. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: with all that has gone on with their name. I
Speaker 1: mean it was the most silly, innocent way of naming
Speaker 1: the band. Literally, we're taking these pictures from his Annabellum
Speaker 1: Holmes coming up with a name. We were about to
Speaker 1: call ourselves Spring spring Day or something. We didn't know
Speaker 1: we were just like all these names. Did you guys
Speaker 1: name yourself though, or did someone say that we did?
Speaker 1: We did? When we're looking through these pictures, like, that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful Anabelle Im home right there, I was like
Speaker 1: an about it sounds southern. It just sounds graceful. It
Speaker 1: sounds like muscle shoals or something. You know. I pictured
Speaker 1: like I pictured like Savannah and this thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said lady, but I guess I was
Speaker 1: thinking like Scarlett oor Hair. I mean, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: If I could go back to what made because I
Speaker 1: was I came up with that name, and I remember
Speaker 1: like saying and I said it today and he goes,
Speaker 1: that sounds cool, and I was like, people are just
Speaker 1: gonna be intrigued. At the time, all you wanted were
Speaker 1: people to go, what what what? What's the lady Annabelle?
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, you know there's always that
Speaker 1: are like cool bands like Jane's Addiction, all these like
Speaker 1: like it gives it a little bit of mysterious vibe
Speaker 1: and um, and I was like, maybe there's this like
Speaker 1: haunted lady that used to live there, this thing I
Speaker 1: don't know laying about and it just sounds southern. And
Speaker 1: and then I didn't really think about it. And when
Speaker 1: we started going on tour, it's like, oh, so she's
Speaker 1: the lead singer, and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot, Like, I mean, if I could go back,
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when we were going through this whole
Speaker 1: thing with her name change. I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: many nights I would like stay up going and I
Speaker 1: would come up with names in my head, like why
Speaker 1: didn't I call myself, you know, freaking green Grass the
Speaker 1: screen because it was like it was so and how
Speaker 1: do you how do you? How do you? How can
Speaker 1: you convince people that it was just like it just
Speaker 1: came out of the thin blue er. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it just did. It just came out and it
Speaker 1: sounded southern. And I remember having so many people going
Speaker 1: I won't name the artist, but I remember having like
Speaker 1: two or three artists, a like, do y'all think you
Speaker 1: all would be as successful without such a cool name?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it was like for
Speaker 1: them it just felt cool. It just felt us. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can remember I was working and I
Speaker 1: was still doing pop and hip hop in Austin, and
Speaker 1: you guys were doing a radio tour because you'd bring
Speaker 1: by the little pictures signed and it's very early on,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Lady Annabelle on, what the heck?
Speaker 1: Because he even is that? But I was curious enough
Speaker 1: to go and check it out, I know, And you know,
Speaker 1: And I don't think we thought past that. We We
Speaker 1: didn't never thought past like what's gonna make someone just
Speaker 1: push the click on my space and say what let
Speaker 1: me hear it? And I don't know even thought it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool that it would be like oh and
Speaker 1: then a guy singing, I don't know what. Maybe why
Speaker 1: when you guys going you play in the open for
Speaker 1: your brother and it's the three of you. Were you
Speaker 1: doing what you and Dave did where you were just
Speaker 1: playing under your name or did you even have a
Speaker 1: name or did you have that name? But we had
Speaker 1: that we have that name by then we first before
Speaker 1: our first gig, I mean, we initially started. I think
Speaker 1: are are my Space. It might have been under Springdale
Speaker 1: or something like that. I think it was a road
Speaker 1: called Springdale. And I remember like telling that to somebodys
Speaker 1: or like that sounds cheesy, and you know, and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it sounds a little bit too much like Sugarland too,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, We're just the name is it's
Speaker 1: so hard to come with the name because everything, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Beatles, Eagles, you know, all the mascots are basically
Speaker 1: taking yeah and uh, and so you know, we didn't
Speaker 1: want to be like two dudes in the Chick or
Speaker 1: Hillary Dave, you know, Charles Band. So it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, you could just come up with this name.
Speaker 1: But and yeah, it was just very intriguing to people
Speaker 1: and it worked. The last things I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: are a bit about the name change, but not really
Speaker 1: what you expect about the name changel. I don't mind
Speaker 1: at all. I'm not I'm really not that interested in
Speaker 1: in the drama of that. I mean, I think we
Speaker 1: kind of all saw that play out. But it's like
Speaker 1: all the murch you had with Lady Annabellum written, like
Speaker 1: those are the questions I have, Like what the crap
Speaker 1: do you do with It's like a world series team
Speaker 1: to finish a second, like you got it all printed out?
Speaker 1: What do you do with it? Then? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I love you know. I just think
Speaker 1: we're in a time now where like when you know better,
Speaker 1: you know, when you know better, you do better. And
Speaker 1: we had never thought about that name. I mean I
Speaker 1: had talks with so many of my you know, my
Speaker 1: black friends, and they were like, you know, I never
Speaker 1: really thought about it. But when I look at it,
Speaker 1: you know, like because I, oh, you guys, and I
Speaker 1: know that's not but they were like I could see
Speaker 1: how that just and I don't know, man, with everything
Speaker 1: that's going on, it's like, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: a part of any I don't want to have anything
Speaker 1: associated with us that would make any human being think
Speaker 1: that that was any part of our hearts because it
Speaker 1: could not be any more different. Um. I just think
Speaker 1: it's just one of those I call it one of
Speaker 1: those little blind spots. Especially when you grow up in
Speaker 1: the South. You're like you kind of you kind of
Speaker 1: in a weird way romanticize some some things around here
Speaker 1: that you're not necessarily associating it with the bad. You're
Speaker 1: associating it with like the grace this, and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think that was kind of
Speaker 1: naively kind of where we were in that and and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that I thought we folded
Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's like, well, you know what, then
Speaker 1: if you if you don't want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the conversation of change and just opening ourselves up
Speaker 1: to like making a better world, and that's fine, you know,
Speaker 1: dig your heels in. But that was what it was
Speaker 1: all about and yeah, I mean probably a lot of
Speaker 1: teachers out there. There was a lot of like all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff we you know, and people still will
Speaker 1: call us lady and A Belle. I slipped and have
Speaker 1: done that on the opera stage and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, God, no, listen, that's okay. I mean,
Speaker 1: same thing with the Dixie Chicks. They never had There's
Speaker 1: no way they had any intention of that being offensive.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people are like, well, it's
Speaker 1: not offensive. It's like, well, no, kid, it's not offensive
Speaker 1: to you. And lady and Bella is not offensive to you. Listen.
Speaker 1: It wasn't offensive to me. It's not necessarily I don't
Speaker 1: associate those things with that word, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people do. And when you can make a change, especially
Speaker 1: when people called us, you know, lady A, that probably
Speaker 1: would have been the most difficult thing if we didn't,
Speaker 1: because think about the brand recognition. That would have been
Speaker 1: the most difficult thing, if we didn't have a name
Speaker 1: that already everyone associated. I mean from the day day one.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember, like the first time we went
Speaker 1: on Today's Show, it was like Lady A taking over
Speaker 1: the pavilion. This was like two thousand seven, so everyone's
Speaker 1: been calling us lady A. But it was a very
Speaker 1: difficult time. I mean really wild Um never been in
Speaker 1: our lives kind of misinterpreted like you like that or whatever,
Speaker 1: or you know, and because it's always been about the
Speaker 1: music and that's that's what we wanted about. That was
Speaker 1: one reason you know that wrote that song on Talk
Speaker 1: of This Town was like, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the talk of this town. It's got a little double
Speaker 1: meaning there, um. But man, we learned a lot about
Speaker 1: ourselves and it kind of made us even more passionate
Speaker 1: about being a part of of a band that represents
Speaker 1: love and a welcome environment and and putting out music
Speaker 1: that makes people feel good. I don't know. So for us,
Speaker 1: it's like I know there's something beautiful that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: and I know there's something beautiful that's that's out there
Speaker 1: that you know, we're we're all, we all are going
Speaker 1: to make changes and people are always so resistant to it,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know. I just I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some beauty from the from the name
Speaker 1: change at some point, because I will say right now,
Speaker 1: it's it's been it's been pretty tough to be misinterpreted
Speaker 1: so bad with your intentions, especially people that I don't know,
Speaker 1: you never tried to know, you never even tried, and
Speaker 1: they're only basing their only knowledge of you off a
Speaker 1: headline that they read ext and and and and trust me,
Speaker 1: there's so much more to that in a very crazy
Speaker 1: way that people wouldn't even understand, you know. But but listen,
Speaker 1: we're just we're trying to do our best like everybody else.
Speaker 1: And I think as long as you try and and
Speaker 1: um and you know, try to leave it where a
Speaker 1: little bit better. You know. I don't want my my
Speaker 1: little boy as he grows up and he's in history
Speaker 1: class going dad, well what did you mean by that?
Speaker 1: And what you now? Because when I learned about I
Speaker 1: was like, well that's hard to explain. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know. It Just we grew up, man.
Speaker 1: You grow up, and you start looking at the world
Speaker 1: and going all right, man, we can all do better.
Speaker 1: And that's just the bottom line. We can. And sometimes
Speaker 1: it takes a pandemic and you know, and and and
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened that that kind of
Speaker 1: change the world for the better. You know, and it
Speaker 1: takes time. It's it's it's still going to take a long, long,
Speaker 1: long time. But there's a there's some beauty I think
Speaker 1: that's going to come out of this pandemic and everyone
Speaker 1: having some forced stillness and um, it's also gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety and and and therapy we're all
Speaker 1: gonna have to go through after this. Trevor Rosen of
Speaker 1: Old Dominion talks about how they were worried about being
Speaker 1: sued because of the legality of their name, and then
Speaker 1: how they got the approval to use the name Old Dominion.
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever go do Have you played at
Speaker 1: school school Auld Dominion? Ah? Yeah, we played there. I
Speaker 1: think last summer. Was that a thing or no? Um,
Speaker 1: do they care? I don't, I can't remember. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they hyped it up too much as Old Dominion.
Speaker 1: At Old Dominion, I think there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of an element of that, but I don't know. Was
Speaker 1: it weird to have the name? Was there any legal
Speaker 1: thing like you can't call yourself Old Dominion? Yeah? Actually
Speaker 1: we almost weren't called Old Dominion. Um, well, so early on,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard to pick a band name
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the worst thing it can possibly
Speaker 1: have to do, because yeah, you're always self conscious. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna rip on you and shoot down anything. Everything
Speaker 1: definitely um. So, you know, we had to sit there
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, well we're not gonna be named Matt
Speaker 1: Ramsey or whatever. Let's figure out a band name or
Speaker 1: band and so we had tried so hard and we
Speaker 1: finally settled on Old Dominion. Matt said that one day,
Speaker 1: He's like, the only thing I could think of that's
Speaker 1: related to Virginia that hasn't been taken as Old Dominion.
Speaker 1: We were like, well, what's wrong with that? So we
Speaker 1: were Old Dominion for like maybe two years and started
Speaker 1: to get some steam. You know, we had some things going.
Speaker 1: We had already put out a couple of songs on iTunes,
Speaker 1: and then we were talking to our attorney and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just really concerned about the legalities of this. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got the peanut company, and you've got the trucking company,
Speaker 1: and you've got the university and and the beer and
Speaker 1: so man. We we actually got to the point where
Speaker 1: we were sitting at a bar in Nashville trying to
Speaker 1: come up with a new name and pretty much having
Speaker 1: a band fight. And then I finally, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I can be stubborn sometimes, but I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, this is stupid. I'm like, we can be
Speaker 1: called the Dominion and they were like, well no, he
Speaker 1: the attorney says we could get sued, and I said,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, there
Speaker 1: is there is a university, there is a peanut company.
Speaker 1: They're they're not suing each other. There are already more
Speaker 1: multiple dominions, and so I'm like, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the attorney. And our attorney was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, really, you're probably right, except
Speaker 1: the university is the one I'm afraid of um because
Speaker 1: they have a marching band, they have merchandise that they sell.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna get ahold
Speaker 1: on somebody. So I stay out there all day and
Speaker 1: track down somebody at the university and just asked people
Speaker 1: until I out to the right person and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're this band, we've been operating under this name. We
Speaker 1: already have songs out, you know, is this an issue?
Speaker 1: And they said no, as long as you don't use
Speaker 1: our logo, we're not worried about it. You're good. And
Speaker 1: so I took it back to the guys and I'm like,
Speaker 1: does this satisfy everybody? And they're like, okay, I guess
Speaker 1: we're still old dominion. You got it in writing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the play getting in writing. Yeah. So it was
Speaker 1: all out of like futility of being able to come
Speaker 1: up with a new name. Remember any of the names
Speaker 1: you guys talked about. I mean, I do know they
Speaker 1: were all awful, um, but man, I can't remember. I
Speaker 1: do remember playing the Wild Horse one time when we
Speaker 1: were in limbo and we were like, let's just be
Speaker 1: let's just tell her where Friday Agle. The girl would
Speaker 1: announce us when we would play the wild Horse, and she,
Speaker 1: you know, she'd go, what do you guys call it?
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'd just be Matt Ramsey or whatever. And one
Speaker 1: time she was like, how do you want me to
Speaker 1: announce you? And Matt was like, Friday Eagle. She's like,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Friday Eagle. That's pretty funny. I thought
Speaker 1: that video of you guys playing was it the Wild Horse?
Speaker 1: And there's like one couple dancing. Oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe Matt still had that on his computer.
Speaker 1: It was just and I mean that in the most
Speaker 1: sincere way. It was here you here, you guys, are
Speaker 1: you got all these hits? A band? You got all
Speaker 1: these hits? His riders and you're playing to no One right,
Speaker 1: And there's an old couple that are It looks like
Speaker 1: they're two stepping to that summer and you want from
Speaker 1: memory that summer, that summer and it was a hey, look,
Speaker 1: even we like struggled our brains out and nobody would
Speaker 1: come to our shows and look at us now. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't look at us now, like look at us now?
Speaker 1: But I was like, freaking look at us now, like
Speaker 1: we can do this, You guys can do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was inspired by the video. I thought that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool post it was really cool. I mean that,
Speaker 1: like you said, that was that was before any of
Speaker 1: the hits or anything. Fried Eagle Days. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: Fried Eagle Days. Wet might have been the night we've
Speaker 1: announced ourselves as Frida Eagle. Gary Levox of Rascal Flats
Speaker 1: talks about the various names they used before paying someone
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks to be able to use the name
Speaker 1: Rascal Flats. You and Jay obviously are related with with
Speaker 1: Joe Don. Did Jay find Joe Don? Who's Who's what
Speaker 1: was that? So Jay was the bandleader for Shelley right,
Speaker 1: and then he hired uh Joe Don to play guitar
Speaker 1: for Shelley and so that he had Jabe been telling
Speaker 1: me about Jodan how you know high ten and our
Speaker 1: Grady sings and plays. So he came down at the
Speaker 1: Feeling Steel Guitar Bar one night and it our guitar
Speaker 1: player didn't show up, so he invited jode on in
Speaker 1: and we did. Uh. Church on the Cumberland Road was
Speaker 1: the first song we ever did. The rest was history.
Speaker 1: We were like, wow, I don't know what that was,
Speaker 1: but that was I mean, it was just it was incredible.
Speaker 1: So we asked him and how was that? How quickly?
Speaker 1: And tell you had a name? Though it took a
Speaker 1: while because we were because I think Jabord and I
Speaker 1: were going by deuces Wild and then there was three
Speaker 1: of us in there, so deuces Wild didn't make any sense,
Speaker 1: and then you know it was hard to come up
Speaker 1: with a name. And uh, but we we sat there
Speaker 1: and we were thinking, so we're Oaklahio because Joe don't
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma is just terrible. And then it was awful.
Speaker 1: And so this piano player name Jelly Roll was in
Speaker 1: town or was playing with us, and he was like, man,
Speaker 1: back in the sixties, I used to have a band
Speaker 1: called Rascal Flats and um, We're like, what does it means?
Speaker 1: Jelly He was like, hell, I don't know, no idea.
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, So we literally wrote on a
Speaker 1: napkin um and we paid him five bucks for the name.
Speaker 1: So if it did work, get sued later. So that's
Speaker 1: the story. Preston of Low Cash shares the story of
Speaker 1: how they used to say that's low cash money, and
Speaker 1: that was a figure of speech that they used with
Speaker 1: each other, and that inspired the name. They told their
Speaker 1: management about the name. The management said it never will work,
Speaker 1: and it turns out management isn't always right. So you go,
Speaker 1: you go play, are you Christen? I'm so enamored when
Speaker 1: with him in the name, who came up with the
Speaker 1: name and when it came out? Okay, So back in
Speaker 1: the day in Kokomo, Indiana, where I'm from, it was
Speaker 1: me and my high school buddies. We have this thing
Speaker 1: called low Cash Money. Boys, and um, we call ourselves
Speaker 1: l c MB low Cash Money Boys, and you had
Speaker 1: to be like initiated. You had to get a nickname.
Speaker 1: And it was like a little fraternity, high school fraternity,
Speaker 1: and we low Cash was kind of a figure of
Speaker 1: speech if you could, because none of us had very
Speaker 1: much money. So if something really cool would happen, we'd
Speaker 1: be like that was so low Cash high five and
Speaker 1: be like that's awesome. And so that's how low Cash
Speaker 1: kind of came to be. So while we're out in
Speaker 1: my jeep Cherokee with the U haul, I tell Chris,
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know up in Cocoma, I want
Speaker 1: you to meet my buddies when when we play Cookemon
Speaker 1: and he says okay. So he meets everybody and he says, um, uh,
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty cool. This is pretty cool little
Speaker 1: crew of dudes. And I said, yeah, you should be
Speaker 1: in the low Cash family with us. We'll give you
Speaker 1: a nickname everything. So we give him a nickname and everything.
Speaker 1: Chris says, he gets the you know, the light bulb.
Speaker 1: He's like, we should be the country boys of Low Cash.
Speaker 1: And I was like, because meaning is just never forgetting
Speaker 1: where you're from. It's not about being poor. It's about
Speaker 1: cool stuff happening for next to nothing, best things in
Speaker 1: life for free kind of attitude. So Chris says we
Speaker 1: should be the country boys Low Cash, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I love that. So then we were like, let's just
Speaker 1: be a little cash cowboys. And we came back to
Speaker 1: Nashville and we told our management. We're like, we got
Speaker 1: a name, weren't called ourselves low Cash Cowboys And they
Speaker 1: were like that will never work. And we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: well then that's it. We're going with low Cash Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If you say it will never work, at least it's polarizing,
Speaker 1: it's making you feel something right now. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: go with it. And so we did. Chris Kirkpatrick been Sync.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how one of the biggest boy
Speaker 1: bands in America came together and how Justin Timberlake's mom
Speaker 1: was the one that came up with a name in Sync.
Speaker 1: So who was the first guy of of of the
Speaker 1: band the group that you were like, all right, come
Speaker 1: do it just and you met him was this Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse Club No Post. So so the story, the real
Speaker 1: story is I was I was making cold calls. I
Speaker 1: was just calling people. I'm like, you know, I need
Speaker 1: to find you know, parts, I need to find guys
Speaker 1: that saying I need to do whatever. So I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I think I went through the paper or something like
Speaker 1: that and I called. I think I called agents. I
Speaker 1: called like nineteen agents. I'm like, listen, I'm putting together
Speaker 1: this group. Okay, thank you so much. It's my number,
Speaker 1: this my address click, you know, I did nineteen agents.
Speaker 1: One person got back to me and I went over.
Speaker 1: I remember it like it was yesterday's Studio Plaza in
Speaker 1: Orlando and pulled up in my little Nissan Center or
Speaker 1: whatever I was driving, and he gave me this Manila
Speaker 1: envelope and I went out and you know, put it
Speaker 1: popped in this cassette tape into my player and heard
Speaker 1: this voice. I'm like, oh my god, like this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: This is better than anybody that's been in my band yet.
Speaker 1: And I pulled up the headshot and I'm like, justin Timberlake?
Speaker 1: Is he an Indian? Like I didn't you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't get I didn't know if that was a stick
Speaker 1: or what was going on. And UH called his mom.
Speaker 1: And that was a tough call because they were back
Speaker 1: in Memphis, and I was like, Hey, I'm this twenty
Speaker 1: four three year old guy, and I want to put
Speaker 1: your fourteen year old son in a band with me,
Speaker 1: and you know, and and they had this thing where
Speaker 1: it was like they went down for Mickey mouse Club
Speaker 1: and they said, well, if we got to go there
Speaker 1: for Mickey mouse Club and we don't get it, Juliska,
Speaker 1: we'll go to Disney. So you know, they kind of
Speaker 1: said it again. They also suggested, they said, well, he's
Speaker 1: been working with j C. So j C came down
Speaker 1: and I actually met j C first because Lou went
Speaker 1: and picked j C up at the airport and they
Speaker 1: came to my work and I met j C. And
Speaker 1: then Justin came and the three of us are out
Speaker 1: one night and we ran into Joey randomly, and I
Speaker 1: knew Joey. Joey is the only one of them that
Speaker 1: I knew prior because we worked at Universal Studios together,
Speaker 1: and uh, I knew Joey and we're like, dude, you know,
Speaker 1: we're looking for a band, you know, can you do it?
Speaker 1: And he's like, yep, I'm in because he was in
Speaker 1: this group in high school called the Big guys with
Speaker 1: the Luis Fonzi Oh yeah really yeah, which was in
Speaker 1: and they were like this. They were like this high
Speaker 1: school band. It's so weird to see Fonzie, you know,
Speaker 1: doing so much now. And his brother John is amazing
Speaker 1: too because his brother John was in my group. But
Speaker 1: that's I'll just make this story really long, but um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, So then Joey got in the band and
Speaker 1: he brought in this kid, Jason, And that's how we
Speaker 1: got the name because uh, Justin's mom was looking at
Speaker 1: all our names and Justin, Chris, Joey, Jason, and j C.
Speaker 1: The last letter all spells in sync, and that's how
Speaker 1: we got our name. And then um, the night we
Speaker 1: were signing the deal, Jason quit left and it took
Speaker 1: us a year to find Lance and night you were signing, yeah,
Speaker 1: we ended up signing the next day, just the four
Speaker 1: of us. But we needed a base, like we knew
Speaker 1: we needed a base. The guys from Seafourth, Mitch and
Speaker 1: Tom share the earliest memories they have of meeting in
Speaker 1: kindergarten and growing up in Australia and how that inspired
Speaker 1: their name. What stage of your childhood life did you
Speaker 1: guys meet were three years old. Oh, before school, we
Speaker 1: went to a preschool you call it. He was eating crayons.
Speaker 1: I think infused that meeting already. I have no memories
Speaker 1: before five. I remember. We'll actually have videos that helped
Speaker 1: me remember, so that's probably what it is. But Tom
Speaker 1: was really begin to eating sand back in the day,
Speaker 1: like sand pit star, just like something, yeah, something with
Speaker 1: the texture. But we went to c Fourth Kindergarten, which
Speaker 1: was the town which are suburb within Sydney where we met,
Speaker 1: and the kindergarten was called essentially if we were from Nashville,
Speaker 1: we would be called Green Hills. You know. So you
Speaker 1: meet then, but do you become friends or do you
Speaker 1: just know each other? We know each other, we had
Speaker 1: like play dates like our parents. Like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how that gets talking. Did your parents know each other? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: through through the kindergarten. And I feel like it's like
Speaker 1: a thing. Did the parents assown that the kids get along,
Speaker 1: so let's go, let's let's make them hang out kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And that's kind of like the age that
Speaker 1: we would hang out. I guess, like I have a
Speaker 1: vivid memory of stealing one of Tom's Pokemon cards that's
Speaker 1: like one of the earliest memories I have, Tom and
Speaker 1: I's going out of the postmon collection and taking a
Speaker 1: card out of sn't remember exactly what the card was,
Speaker 1: but that was serious. That's caused a lot of tension.
Speaker 1: This might this might break the duo right now you
Speaker 1: find out. I think it's the one that Jake had
Speaker 1: on his knack or was that when Mike was the
Speaker 1: chars you're all nerds, great, that's all like, I know
Speaker 1: you guys. Um, So when did you actually become friends
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, you're my guy, We're going to
Speaker 1: be friends. We've been friends since we were young, and
Speaker 1: we've kind of always like got along and laughed and
Speaker 1: like we made music together. We played music together through
Speaker 1: high school like a different events and stuff. But then
Speaker 1: after high school I moved to l A for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. Mitch was in Sydney doing his thing
Speaker 1: with a band, and then we started writing together around then,
Speaker 1: like twenty one ish in l A. When you were
Speaker 1: writing were you writing online? Yeah? We wrote like we
Speaker 1: were sending songs back and forth via Skype, and then
Speaker 1: we kind of wrote once. But then I went back
Speaker 1: to Australia, to visit my family and stuff. One time
Speaker 1: when I was about one, and we wrote together and
Speaker 1: we're like, this feels like something really cool, and then
Speaker 1: we kind of just were like, let's just do this, like,
Speaker 1: let's focus on this. Did you moved to later to
Speaker 1: music time? You did? Yeah, And so ended up getting
Speaker 1: a job at In and Out Burger and that was
Speaker 1: kind of the peak, so that the l A trip
Speaker 1: wasn't good for you, No, I know it was. Man,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job at in and Out, but
Speaker 1: I did have a job at Big Wangs. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a place at a job at a sports
Speaker 1: park called Big Wangs. And I only realized years later
Speaker 1: what it was kind of implaying. You didn't know then
Speaker 1: You're working at a sports part that was named after
Speaker 1: a large penis. Well then it was like wings though
Speaker 1: as well, because it was known for its wings, And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Wang Wangs. Yeah, So now I
Speaker 1: figured it out, And there's just a lot of revelation
Speaker 1: coming into my atmosphere today about the Pokemon card and
Speaker 1: Big Wings. It's just it's a lot to take in.
Speaker 1: You moved to l A to pursue a like a
Speaker 1: solo solo Yeah, Yeah, we both did individual things and
Speaker 1: it was great. Man. I learned a lot there and
Speaker 1: made some connections with people I'm still friends with and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then Yeah, but then this just felt like the
Speaker 1: right thing, and so I was like we Nashville was
Speaker 1: the end goal, and so I was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to move back to Australia. Focused on this for a
Speaker 1: couple of years with the end goal of moving to Nashville.
Speaker 1: Scott's staff of Creed talks with me about the crazy
Speaker 1: names they almost went with before going with Creed, and
Speaker 1: one in particular that scared a lot of people off.
Speaker 1: You get to Florida State, you want to do music,
Speaker 1: but how the heck do you start, you quote, doing music?
Speaker 1: When do you meet Mark? Literally I went around and
Speaker 1: handmade little flyers I want to you know, looking for
Speaker 1: a band, looking for a guitar player, called this number,
Speaker 1: you know, and was putting them up on campus. UM.
Speaker 1: And then a friend of mine who I went to
Speaker 1: high school with, she went to school at Florida State, uh,
Speaker 1: and I was connecting with a couple of people that
Speaker 1: I knew um in in high school, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, Mark's here, Mark Tremonti's here and he plays guitar. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I remember that. I
Speaker 1: remember going to like one of the only two parties
Speaker 1: that I snuck out of my house and went to
Speaker 1: because I wasn't allowed to do that. I remember coming
Speaker 1: out of the kitchen and walking by a sliding glass
Speaker 1: door to outside and seeing some dude sitting outside alone
Speaker 1: playing acoustic guitar. Uh. And I remember opening the opening
Speaker 1: the door and looking outside and going, hey, you're Mark.
Speaker 1: You're Mark drawnni right and he goes yeah, And I go,
Speaker 1: you play guitar? And he was yeah, And I got
Speaker 1: I sing and he goes cool man. And that was
Speaker 1: it because he was a junior and I was a senior,
Speaker 1: and that was that was the only because we weren't
Speaker 1: like buddies in high school, but we knew of each
Speaker 1: other and that was our only interaction in high school
Speaker 1: was that moment. And then you know, fast forward, uh
Speaker 1: years later he had gone to Clemson University and then transferred,
Speaker 1: uh you know over to Florida State uh. And then
Speaker 1: we get introduced again, uh through a mutual friend uh.
Speaker 1: And I think because we went to the same high
Speaker 1: school and had some mutual friends that we felt comfortable
Speaker 1: around each other. And I was so excited man to
Speaker 1: to find someone to jam with. And he's I remember
Speaker 1: sitting down with him and and he's just shredding all
Speaker 1: these metal licks and and playing all the stuff that
Speaker 1: I really didn't know a lot about at the time,
Speaker 1: but I didn't care. I was like, it's awesome, it's awesome,
Speaker 1: let's write songs. And we sat down and shared all
Speaker 1: these ideas, and I think we probably came up with
Speaker 1: like twenty ideas in the first like three hours we
Speaker 1: had set down with each other. Uh and uh. And
Speaker 1: then it just started from there and and we decided, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's do this. Let's start a band. So
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because you're gonna start a band,
Speaker 1: do you do you go out and do you play
Speaker 1: for anybody? Just YouTube? Like, do you go to coffee shop?
Speaker 1: Do you well? What? We we kept getting together and
Speaker 1: just jamming. Uh? Did he think you were good? I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I I hope so. Um you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I I think we had a mutual admiration
Speaker 1: for each other. And I know he saw because he
Speaker 1: commented before, you know, he saw my passion. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he saw how committed I was, how much I lyrics
Speaker 1: I was writing and poetry that I was writing, and
Speaker 1: how passionate I was about getting together to rehearse and
Speaker 1: right and and so yeah, you know, I definitely think
Speaker 1: so I think we inspired each other. I saw his
Speaker 1: passion um and his his playing moved me, uh and
Speaker 1: and brought it was like it was amuse, it brought
Speaker 1: things out of me. And I think that energy began
Speaker 1: to share with you know, was shared with each other.
Speaker 1: I would inspire him and and and it just became
Speaker 1: this this mutual admiration for each other. Eventually, um. And
Speaker 1: then you know, we had to find a bass player
Speaker 1: and a drummer um. And so we eventually did. We
Speaker 1: found Brian Uh and Scott Phillips. Brian was actually playing
Speaker 1: in a cover band, pretty successful college cover band that
Speaker 1: was like playing gigs every weekend, making making money, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we kind of stole him from
Speaker 1: that gig, and that was a big thing. We were
Speaker 1: like trying to recruit him, and he was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I got this good thing going and I'm
Speaker 1: making money, you know, and you guys aren't even playing
Speaker 1: out like you're just you know, jam In and Scott
Speaker 1: singing through Marks amp, same amp that he's playing playing
Speaker 1: guitar from. And finally we got him. We had this
Speaker 1: one bass player. This is hilarious. Uh, I can't remember
Speaker 1: his name. My mind wants to tell me. His name
Speaker 1: was Kern's okay. Uh so anyone out there listening, um,
Speaker 1: if you remember, uh, you know, shoot me a text
Speaker 1: or call in or whatever. But he didn't play. He
Speaker 1: didn't he actually did. He just stood there and pretended
Speaker 1: to play. We couldn't tell because he didn't have he
Speaker 1: didn't have an AMP or he had an amp, but
Speaker 1: it was it's just the way we were rehearsing. It
Speaker 1: was like maybe he did play a note here or there, uh,
Speaker 1: during rehearsals. But we eventually realized when we would have
Speaker 1: our friends come over and you know, and we were
Speaker 1: playing original song that coming up with ideas that me
Speaker 1: and Mark were writing. He wasn't even playing bass. He
Speaker 1: was just standing there trying to look cool. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so we eventually we it's a funny spinal tap kind
Speaker 1: of story, like you know, this this stand in bass
Speaker 1: player that just you know, and he would rock and
Speaker 1: move and you know, look like he was playing but
Speaker 1: like nothing. Uh, and maybe we realized that at our
Speaker 1: first gig. I think Mark came to be made a gig,
Speaker 1: though he actually got to a gig, got to a
Speaker 1: gig like he he fooled us just long enough to
Speaker 1: get to to like one gig, I believe, if my
Speaker 1: memory serves me. And then Mark came to me afterwards
Speaker 1: and he goes, dude, Karns didn't play the entire night,
Speaker 1: and I was like what and uh, you know, so
Speaker 1: we let him go and and uh, you know, eventually
Speaker 1: got Brian and and and Scott and and man. Really
Speaker 1: we were just kind of a you know, jam. Scott
Speaker 1: Phillips had this cool little rental house uh that he
Speaker 1: rented while he was going to school and and working,
Speaker 1: and had had this outdoor concrete like garage but I
Speaker 1: don't I don't even almost like a basement, but it
Speaker 1: was like outdoors and separate from the house, just a
Speaker 1: solid concrete room. Uh. And we would go out there
Speaker 1: and and uh and just jam and righte and rehearse
Speaker 1: and rehearse, but we never played out. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: finally we began to play out. Where did you get
Speaker 1: your first gig? I believe it was a place called Yanny's.
Speaker 1: And what if I if I remember correct not it
Speaker 1: was either Yawnny's or or or oh man, no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't your trying to remember did you have a name.
Speaker 1: Then we we went through a couple We went through
Speaker 1: a few names. I mean we we didn't really have
Speaker 1: a definitive name. I mean we we had some stupid ideas.
Speaker 1: Um I mean backbone, I mean, you know, how cool
Speaker 1: is that? Right? But I would have been the name
Speaker 1: have been a hit, would have been like that normal.
Speaker 1: And then we had this crazy name that that you know.
Speaker 1: Mark had this idea and he goes, I've always had
Speaker 1: this idea for a band name. And he pulls out
Speaker 1: this newspaper article from his wallet and it said Naked Toddler.
Speaker 1: And he had always and he thought Naked Toddler would
Speaker 1: be a killer band name. And and literally, man, he
Speaker 1: carried the article in his wallet and he pulls it out.
Speaker 1: So we're like, all right, let's be Naked Toddler. And
Speaker 1: so we went and played a gig and they had
Speaker 1: Naked Toddler on the on the billboard. Uh and uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't go over too well. A lot of people
Speaker 1: didn't show up. I think the name kind of I
Speaker 1: think I was gonna show up. I may have not
Speaker 1: kind of kind of scared them, but but you know,
Speaker 1: no one was really showing up to see us anyway.
Speaker 1: We were really just like playing it at bars, you know,
Speaker 1: playing covers, uh, throwing in you know, an original here.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to figure out our sound and our style. Um.
Speaker 1: And so eventually Brian Marshall, our bass player, Uh, he
Speaker 1: came and he said, you know, I used to be
Speaker 1: in a band called Maddox Creed and UM. When he
Speaker 1: said that, I instantly gravitated to the word creed. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, being the lyricist and and you know, writing
Speaker 1: the songs that it just fit with how I was
Speaker 1: writing and the songs that that Mark and I were creating,
Speaker 1: in the lyrics that I was coming up with. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I go, let's keep the Creed part. Man. I
Speaker 1: love that, And so we all agreed, and Creed became
Speaker 1: the name. Brandon Lancaster of Lanco talks about the early
Speaker 1: years of the band and why they chose to go
Speaker 1: with Lanco. So, Uh, Lanco is a combination of a
Speaker 1: couple of words, right, isn't it? Like, Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: Lancastering Company. Yeah. From what I remember, somebody worked there
Speaker 1: and that's where you guys like practice they got together. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: why so the band name comes from My name is
Speaker 1: Brandon Lancaster. So I uh so, you know that's not
Speaker 1: whouse is a warehouse in the story, but it's not
Speaker 1: not Lancaster. Um, my name is Brandon Lancaster. So you know,
Speaker 1: early days in Nashville, and uh well, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think how far to go back. I met Tripp, who's
Speaker 1: the drummer in Lanko and he worked at a carpet warehouse,
Speaker 1: and uh I met him in Chattanoga, Tennessee. I was
Speaker 1: going to school out there, and we both played a
Speaker 1: music festival out there in different bands. And I'm from
Speaker 1: Nashville originally, I grew up outside of Nashville. That you
Speaker 1: know how rare that is? Oh? I know, which is fun.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was rare until because when you
Speaker 1: grow up here, everyone's from here. I grew up in
Speaker 1: Smyrna South in Nashville, and uh yeah, when you grew
Speaker 1: up here, everyone's from here. And then I went to
Speaker 1: school and when I came back, you know, started making
Speaker 1: new friends and meeting people, and everyone would ask where
Speaker 1: I was from. And that question was so strange to
Speaker 1: me because I was like, I'm yeah, where are you from?
Speaker 1: And they always a grew from here. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: where are you from? What are you doing? More people
Speaker 1: aren't from here? Oh, especially in the business that we're in.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yea, more like people aren't from here from I know,
Speaker 1: I've met very few people that are from here. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah. But I went to school in Chattanooga. So
Speaker 1: when I moved back, Tripp was moving to Nashville the
Speaker 1: same week. I was. So, you know, I've been writing songs,
Speaker 1: I mean virtually my whole life and uh and and
Speaker 1: so I told me I have the slew of songs
Speaker 1: and I want to put a band together, and kind
Speaker 1: of gave the idea and and so we put it
Speaker 1: to get you know, my name is Brena Lancaster. So
Speaker 1: it started as you know, Lancaster and and something, and
Speaker 1: we thought we'd build a band arount around. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you about that. Let me stop you for a second,
Speaker 1: because I always thought, you know, all the guys in
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews band, Yeah, h Dave Matthews band, like Dave
Speaker 1: Matthews is band bon Jovi, John bon Jovi, nobody else's
Speaker 1: name Van Halen. Yeah, I got a couple of Van
Speaker 1: Hammon bro You know what, how come is it? Because
Speaker 1: you're the one that came up with the idea and
Speaker 1: he was just cool with it because his last name
Speaker 1: is not company, is it? Yeah? Uh it actually no,
Speaker 1: it's not. Um Yeah, we were duos Lancasko. No, it
Speaker 1: was I think the way it started, you know, at first,
Speaker 1: like he was in a different band and I had
Speaker 1: written a bunch of songs. It was a thing where
Speaker 1: I I could have done a solo project if I
Speaker 1: wanted to, I could have just you know, made it
Speaker 1: mine and and hired guys out, and you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of had a revolving door, which is what happened
Speaker 1: Nashville lot and early on that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: thought might happen, you know, because I had these songs,
Speaker 1: and you just don't know how long you're gonna keep
Speaker 1: a guitar player or a bass player because everyone's working
Speaker 1: and has to you know, kind of go where the
Speaker 1: money is sometimes. But early on it was, you know
Speaker 1: this thing where I I wrote these songs, but I
Speaker 1: want to build a band around it. I did look
Speaker 1: at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and I did look
Speaker 1: at at Dave Matthews band, where there is a primary
Speaker 1: songwriter and there's this guy that came with the songs,
Speaker 1: but there's a band around it that makes it unique
Speaker 1: and has its own sound. And when you keep those
Speaker 1: same guys together, like even like a Zach Brown band,
Speaker 1: you know it has a unique sound because they've had time.
Speaker 1: The same guys have had time to craft that sound
Speaker 1: and and and build what they're doing and also go
Speaker 1: through hard time together, go through great times together, um
Speaker 1: and and so early on, I didn't know what it
Speaker 1: would look like, you know, I didn't know if it
Speaker 1: would be a band band or if it would be
Speaker 1: this Zach Brown band or Dave Matthews band, and guys
Speaker 1: might come in and come out, and you keep hiring
Speaker 1: and you keep adding people. I didn't know at all
Speaker 1: what it would look like. I just knew we had
Speaker 1: Landcaster and then if Tripp wanted to be in this band,
Speaker 1: we could have a company and start building it. And
Speaker 1: that was also where the name change kind of came though,
Speaker 1: was when we shortened it. It was because it was
Speaker 1: the same guys for for a long time, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had gone a year and then we had just
Speaker 1: all become friends. We're like, all right, this is a band,
Speaker 1: so but people know it's is Lancastering Company, but let's
Speaker 1: shorten it to more of a band name, kind of
Speaker 1: sound selfless thing, because Landco does not sound like random
Speaker 1: like guys, it doesn't so selfless thing to make that
Speaker 1: move to go Lanco becauys. If it were me, I'd
Speaker 1: have been like, we're gonna call ourselves brand caster. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening to this episode of the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: Choosing a band name that's a good one, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: it's cool we get to pull from all of our
Speaker 1: own archives. Was Abby part of this Abbey got all
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