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Speaker 1: Episode three eight Band Name Origins. It's a really cool

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast all about how your favorite bands chose the name.

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Speaker 1: On this episode, we've taken stories from episodes over the

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Speaker 1: years and years of various band members here talking about

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Speaker 1: the origin of their name and how they settle on

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Speaker 1: our name. And this is all from us, right, We're

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Speaker 1: not pulling stuff off YouTube that were like, this is

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Speaker 1: all stories we've been given over the years from the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. That's pretty cool. We have like a library

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Speaker 1: that so many episodes. You know, deciding on a name

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Speaker 1: for your band is a pretty big deal. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like naming your kid or pet. You get one

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Speaker 1: shot really, unless you break up, that's it. So you're

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Speaker 1: you're out there and there are some terrible band names.

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Speaker 1: There's some good band names, but then their names who knows,

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Speaker 1: because they were famous, they're just normal, so we don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's a good name or not. That's just

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Speaker 1: who we know him as. Some of the bands had

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Speaker 1: controversy with their names and they had crazy names and

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Speaker 1: had to change their name after they got famous, which

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Speaker 1: but we talked about that in the Lady A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about that one mh so a lot of

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Speaker 1: that has happened. You'll hear stories from Rascal Flats, Little

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Speaker 1: Big Town Dan and Shade Low Cash, Old Dominion, Lady

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Speaker 1: A in SNT creed like we had all them on

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Speaker 1: how they got their names? What about Bobby Bones and

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Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots? How did that come about? When I

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Speaker 1: was in high school, it was the name of our

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Speaker 1: little group because we were the Concubine Kings. First, we

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Speaker 1: but then I realized concubines were like prostitutes. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: were the Concubine Kings. And then we because we were

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Speaker 1: playing churches and so you can't name yourself the Concubine Kings.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's kind of idiotic. And

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Speaker 1: I just wanted a word that was funny, and ragings

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Speaker 1: sounded funny. I don't know, but I called us the

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Speaker 1: Raging Idiots. And we played churches and we did parodies

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Speaker 1: the Donna, No No. So we would play churches and

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Speaker 1: and then I started to do it in my solo

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Speaker 1: com I would be like, oh yeah on the Raging Idiot,

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Speaker 1: everybody disappointed. So I started to learn how to play

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Speaker 1: Rum Tied. There were arch Nemesis and we got into

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Speaker 1: a huge fight. We killed each other, only to the

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Speaker 1: then we were like, well, let's just him and I.

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Speaker 1: Let's just be the Raging Idiots. So we were just

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Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots. I never wanted it to be Bobby

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Speaker 1: Bones and raging idiots. That was never the plan. Well,

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Speaker 1: before the Raging Idiots, and the thing would say Bobby

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Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots. No, no no, it's me and the Raging Idiots.

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Speaker 1: And he said, I'll tell you what the first record,

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Speaker 1: And so Eddie's hilarious. All he's not worth of the

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Speaker 1: It's like Hoodie and the Blowfish. Um, so that's how

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Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots came about. That's it. And that story

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Speaker 1: and we were terrible, all right. So it's a good episode.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for being here. Let's go all right.

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Speaker 1: Kicking off with Dan and Shay. Dan talked about how

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Speaker 1: It's it right about the time you guys went on

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Speaker 1: just friends still looking for a band name. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: We were honestly under SoundCloud. I don't know. I hope

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Speaker 1: We were on SoundCloud as ragtop Red. That was our name.

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Speaker 1: We were like big Tim McGraw fans and we're like,

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Speaker 1: well we has red rag Toop. What if we like

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Speaker 1: We did south By Southwest and uh, we were down there.

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Speaker 1: The second time Justin Bieber came out on stage with us.

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Speaker 1: It was the whole thing. Yeah, that was crazy. The

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Speaker 1: There was only we played a showcase and like Shay's

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Speaker 1: lawyer at the time, this guy Jim's I'm Walt the man,

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Speaker 1: He's the man, Jim's I'mwalt, and Paul d. Giovanni, the

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Speaker 1: But so we go to p F Changs after that

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Speaker 1: Schools Out. Yeah, so like if we ever get a

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how it happened, but we are managers.

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Speaker 1: We we work with Scooter braun Um you know which.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's funny because I was a Scooter

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Speaker 1: He's the king of FaceTime. While I'm sitting with Scooter

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Speaker 1: was like, you guys are like recognizable by your names.

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Speaker 1: Like for the branding and instead of having some band

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Speaker 1: why not just go by your names? Then people will

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Speaker 1: but now a Little Big Towns is a name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first time. It is very selfish thing for me

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Speaker 1: time and you won't remember it, but that you ever

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Speaker 1: heard my stupid name Bobby Bones, Like who is that

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Speaker 1: a pirate? That a porn star? Like? So is Bobby

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Speaker 1: Bones your real name? No? No, no, I would like Bobby,

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Speaker 1: asked so, and so I was given that name when

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Speaker 1: it wasn't It's only on Wikipedia. Don't worry. No, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not my real name and I don't even hide it,

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Speaker 1: but it's Um, it was forced on me. I was

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Speaker 1: seventeen and so like you can be Bobby Bones, Bobby z.

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Speaker 1: I was a kid. I don't know. I was like,

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Speaker 1: well Bones at least sounds like an actual person. And

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Speaker 1: Old Dominion talks about how they were worried about being

424
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: sued because of the legality of their name, and then

425
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: how they got the approval to use the name Old Dominion.

426
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever go do Have you played at

427
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 1: school school Auld Dominion? Ah? Yeah, we played there. I

428
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: think last summer. Was that a thing or no? Um,

429
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 1: do they care? I don't, I can't remember. I don't

430
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: feel like they hyped it up too much as Old Dominion.

431
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 1: At Old Dominion, I think there was a little bit

432
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: of an element of that, but I don't know. Was

433
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: it weird to have the name? Was there any legal

434
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: thing like you can't call yourself Old Dominion? Yeah? Actually

435
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: we almost weren't called Old Dominion. Um, well, so early on,

436
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard to pick a band name

437
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the worst thing it can possibly

438
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 1: have to do, because yeah, you're always self conscious. You know,

439
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna rip on you and shoot down anything. Everything

440
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: definitely um. So, you know, we had to sit there

441
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, well we're not gonna be named Matt

442
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: Ramsey or whatever. Let's figure out a band name or

443
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: band and so we had tried so hard and we

444
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: finally settled on Old Dominion. Matt said that one day,

445
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: He's like, the only thing I could think of that's

446
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: related to Virginia that hasn't been taken as Old Dominion.

447
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,239
Speaker 1: We were like, well, what's wrong with that? So we

448
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 1: were Old Dominion for like maybe two years and started

449
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: to get some steam. You know, we had some things going.

450
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: We had already put out a couple of songs on iTunes,

451
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: and then we were talking to our attorney and he's like, man,

452
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm just really concerned about the legalities of this. You know,

453
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: you've got the peanut company, and you've got the trucking company,

454
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: and you've got the university and and the beer and

455
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: so man. We we actually got to the point where

456
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: we were sitting at a bar in Nashville trying to

457
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: come up with a new name and pretty much having

458
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: a band fight. And then I finally, I don't know,

459
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: I can be stubborn sometimes, but I was like, you

460
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: know what, this is stupid. I'm like, we can be

461
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: called the Dominion and they were like, well no, he

462
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: the attorney says we could get sued, and I said,

463
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, there

464
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: is there is a university, there is a peanut company.

465
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 1: They're they're not suing each other. There are already more

466
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: multiple dominions, and so I'm like, I'm not doing this.

467
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the attorney. And our attorney was like, man,

468
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, really, you're probably right, except

469
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: the university is the one I'm afraid of um because

470
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: they have a marching band, they have merchandise that they sell.

471
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna get ahold

472
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: on somebody. So I stay out there all day and

473
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: track down somebody at the university and just asked people

474
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: until I out to the right person and I said, hey,

475
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: we're this band, we've been operating under this name. We

476
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: already have songs out, you know, is this an issue?

477
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 1: And they said no, as long as you don't use

478
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 1: our logo, we're not worried about it. You're good. And

479
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: so I took it back to the guys and I'm like,

480
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: does this satisfy everybody? And they're like, okay, I guess

481
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: we're still old dominion. You got it in writing, Yeah,

482
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: that's the play getting in writing. Yeah. So it was

483
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: all out of like futility of being able to come

484
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: up with a new name. Remember any of the names

485
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: you guys talked about. I mean, I do know they

486
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: were all awful, um, but man, I can't remember. I

487
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: do remember playing the Wild Horse one time when we

488
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: were in limbo and we were like, let's just be

489
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: let's just tell her where Friday Agle. The girl would

490
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: announce us when we would play the wild Horse, and she,

491
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, she'd go, what do you guys call it?

492
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'd just be Matt Ramsey or whatever. And one

493
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: time she was like, how do you want me to

494
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: announce you? And Matt was like, Friday Eagle. She's like,

495
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Friday Eagle. That's pretty funny. I thought

496
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: that video of you guys playing was it the Wild Horse?

497
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: And there's like one couple dancing. Oh yeah, that was

498
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe Matt still had that on his computer.

499
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: It was just and I mean that in the most

500
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: sincere way. It was here you here, you guys, are

501
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: you got all these hits? A band? You got all

502
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: these hits? His riders and you're playing to no One right,

503
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: And there's an old couple that are It looks like

504
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: they're two stepping to that summer and you want from

505
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: memory that summer, that summer and it was a hey, look,

506
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: even we like struggled our brains out and nobody would

507
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: come to our shows and look at us now. And

508
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't look at us now, like look at us now?

509
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: But I was like, freaking look at us now, like

510
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: we can do this, You guys can do this. Yeah,

511
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: I was inspired by the video. I thought that was

512
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty cool post it was really cool. I mean that,

513
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: like you said, that was that was before any of

514
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: the hits or anything. Fried Eagle Days. Maybe it was

515
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: Fried Eagle Days. Wet might have been the night we've

516
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: announced ourselves as Frida Eagle. Gary Levox of Rascal Flats

517
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: talks about the various names they used before paying someone

518
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks to be able to use the name

519
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Rascal Flats. You and Jay obviously are related with with

520
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Joe Don. Did Jay find Joe Don? Who's Who's what

521
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: was that? So Jay was the bandleader for Shelley right,

522
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: and then he hired uh Joe Don to play guitar

523
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: for Shelley and so that he had Jabe been telling

524
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: me about Jodan how you know high ten and our

525
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Grady sings and plays. So he came down at the

526
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: Feeling Steel Guitar Bar one night and it our guitar

527
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: player didn't show up, so he invited jode on in

528
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: and we did. Uh. Church on the Cumberland Road was

529
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: the first song we ever did. The rest was history.

530
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: We were like, wow, I don't know what that was,

531
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: but that was I mean, it was just it was incredible.

532
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: So we asked him and how was that? How quickly?

533
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: And tell you had a name? Though it took a

534
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: while because we were because I think Jabord and I

535
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: were going by deuces Wild and then there was three

536
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: of us in there, so deuces Wild didn't make any sense,

537
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: and then you know it was hard to come up

538
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: with a name. And uh, but we we sat there

539
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: and we were thinking, so we're Oaklahio because Joe don't

540
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma is just terrible. And then it was awful.

541
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: And so this piano player name Jelly Roll was in

542
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: town or was playing with us, and he was like, man,

543
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: back in the sixties, I used to have a band

544
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: called Rascal Flats and um, We're like, what does it means?

545
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Jelly He was like, hell, I don't know, no idea.

546
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, So we literally wrote on a

547
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: napkin um and we paid him five bucks for the name.

548
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: So if it did work, get sued later. So that's

549
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: the story. Preston of Low Cash shares the story of

550
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: how they used to say that's low cash money, and

551
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: that was a figure of speech that they used with

552
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: each other, and that inspired the name. They told their

553
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: management about the name. The management said it never will work,

554
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: and it turns out management isn't always right. So you go,

555
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: you go play, are you Christen? I'm so enamored when

556
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: with him in the name, who came up with the

557
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: name and when it came out? Okay, So back in

558
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: the day in Kokomo, Indiana, where I'm from, it was

559
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: me and my high school buddies. We have this thing

560
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: called low Cash Money. Boys, and um, we call ourselves

561
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: l c MB low Cash Money Boys, and you had

562
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: to be like initiated. You had to get a nickname.

563
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: And it was like a little fraternity, high school fraternity,

564
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: and we low Cash was kind of a figure of

565
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: speech if you could, because none of us had very

566
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: much money. So if something really cool would happen, we'd

567
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: be like that was so low Cash high five and

568
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: be like that's awesome. And so that's how low Cash

569
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: kind of came to be. So while we're out in

570
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: my jeep Cherokee with the U haul, I tell Chris,

571
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know up in Cocoma, I want

572
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: you to meet my buddies when when we play Cookemon

573
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: and he says okay. So he meets everybody and he says, um, uh,

574
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty cool. This is pretty cool little

575
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: crew of dudes. And I said, yeah, you should be

576
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: in the low Cash family with us. We'll give you

577
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: a nickname everything. So we give him a nickname and everything.

578
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: Chris says, he gets the you know, the light bulb.

579
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: He's like, we should be the country boys of Low Cash.

580
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, because meaning is just never forgetting

581
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: where you're from. It's not about being poor. It's about

582
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: cool stuff happening for next to nothing, best things in

583
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: life for free kind of attitude. So Chris says we

584
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: should be the country boys Low Cash, and I was like,

585
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I love that. So then we were like, let's just

586
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: be a little cash cowboys. And we came back to

587
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: Nashville and we told our management. We're like, we got

588
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: a name, weren't called ourselves low Cash Cowboys And they

589
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: were like that will never work. And we're like, okay,

590
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: well then that's it. We're going with low Cash Cowboys.

591
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: If you say it will never work, at least it's polarizing,

592
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: it's making you feel something right now. So we're gonna

593
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: go with it. And so we did. Chris Kirkpatrick been Sync.

594
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how one of the biggest boy

595
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: bands in America came together and how Justin Timberlake's mom

596
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: was the one that came up with a name in Sync.

597
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: So who was the first guy of of of the

598
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: band the group that you were like, all right, come

599
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: do it just and you met him was this Mickey

600
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Mouse Club No Post. So so the story, the real

601
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: story is I was I was making cold calls. I

602
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: was just calling people. I'm like, you know, I need

603
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: to find you know, parts, I need to find guys

604
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: that saying I need to do whatever. So I don't remember.

605
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: I think I went through the paper or something like

606
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: that and I called. I think I called agents. I

607
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: called like nineteen agents. I'm like, listen, I'm putting together

608
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: this group. Okay, thank you so much. It's my number,

609
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: this my address click, you know, I did nineteen agents.

610
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: One person got back to me and I went over.

611
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: I remember it like it was yesterday's Studio Plaza in

612
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: Orlando and pulled up in my little Nissan Center or

613
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: whatever I was driving, and he gave me this Manila

614
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: envelope and I went out and you know, put it

615
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: popped in this cassette tape into my player and heard

616
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: this voice. I'm like, oh my god, like this is unbelievable.

617
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: This is better than anybody that's been in my band yet.

618
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: And I pulled up the headshot and I'm like, justin Timberlake?

619
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Is he an Indian? Like I didn't you know, I

620
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't get I didn't know if that was a stick

621
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: or what was going on. And UH called his mom.

622
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: And that was a tough call because they were back

623
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: in Memphis, and I was like, Hey, I'm this twenty

624
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: four three year old guy, and I want to put

625
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: your fourteen year old son in a band with me,

626
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: and you know, and and they had this thing where

627
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: it was like they went down for Mickey mouse Club

628
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: and they said, well, if we got to go there

629
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: for Mickey mouse Club and we don't get it, Juliska,

630
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: we'll go to Disney. So you know, they kind of

631
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: said it again. They also suggested, they said, well, he's

632
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: been working with j C. So j C came down

633
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: and I actually met j C first because Lou went

634
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: and picked j C up at the airport and they

635
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: came to my work and I met j C. And

636
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: then Justin came and the three of us are out

637
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: one night and we ran into Joey randomly, and I

638
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: knew Joey. Joey is the only one of them that

639
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: I knew prior because we worked at Universal Studios together,

640
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and uh, I knew Joey and we're like, dude, you know,

641
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: we're looking for a band, you know, can you do it?

642
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, yep, I'm in because he was in

643
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: this group in high school called the Big guys with

644
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: the Luis Fonzi Oh yeah really yeah, which was in

645
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: and they were like this. They were like this high

646
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: school band. It's so weird to see Fonzie, you know,

647
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: doing so much now. And his brother John is amazing

648
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: too because his brother John was in my group. But

649
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: that's I'll just make this story really long, but um,

650
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, So then Joey got in the band and

651
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: he brought in this kid, Jason, And that's how we

652
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: got the name because uh, Justin's mom was looking at

653
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: all our names and Justin, Chris, Joey, Jason, and j C.

654
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: The last letter all spells in sync, and that's how

655
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: we got our name. And then um, the night we

656
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: were signing the deal, Jason quit left and it took

657
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: us a year to find Lance and night you were signing, yeah,

658
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: we ended up signing the next day, just the four

659
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: of us. But we needed a base, like we knew

660
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: we needed a base. The guys from Seafourth, Mitch and

661
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Tom share the earliest memories they have of meeting in

662
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: kindergarten and growing up in Australia and how that inspired

663
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: their name. What stage of your childhood life did you

664
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: guys meet were three years old. Oh, before school, we

665
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: went to a preschool you call it. He was eating crayons.

666
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: I think infused that meeting already. I have no memories

667
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: before five. I remember. We'll actually have videos that helped

668
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: me remember, so that's probably what it is. But Tom

669
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: was really begin to eating sand back in the day,

670
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: like sand pit star, just like something, yeah, something with

671
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: the texture. But we went to c Fourth Kindergarten, which

672
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: was the town which are suburb within Sydney where we met,

673
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and the kindergarten was called essentially if we were from Nashville,

674
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: we would be called Green Hills. You know. So you

675
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: meet then, but do you become friends or do you

676
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: just know each other? We know each other, we had

677
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: like play dates like our parents. Like, I don't even

678
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: know how that gets talking. Did your parents know each other? Yeah? Yeah,

679
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: through through the kindergarten. And I feel like it's like

680
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: a thing. Did the parents assown that the kids get along,

681
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: so let's go, let's let's make them hang out kind

682
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: of thing. And that's kind of like the age that

683
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: we would hang out. I guess, like I have a

684
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: vivid memory of stealing one of Tom's Pokemon cards that's

685
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: like one of the earliest memories I have, Tom and

686
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I's going out of the postmon collection and taking a

687
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: card out of sn't remember exactly what the card was,

688
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: but that was serious. That's caused a lot of tension.

689
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: This might this might break the duo right now you

690
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: find out. I think it's the one that Jake had

691
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: on his knack or was that when Mike was the

692
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: chars you're all nerds, great, that's all like, I know

693
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: you guys. Um, So when did you actually become friends

694
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, you're my guy, We're going to

695
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: be friends. We've been friends since we were young, and

696
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: we've kind of always like got along and laughed and

697
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: like we made music together. We played music together through

698
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: high school like a different events and stuff. But then

699
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: after high school I moved to l A for a

700
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: couple of years. Mitch was in Sydney doing his thing

701
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: with a band, and then we started writing together around then,

702
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: like twenty one ish in l A. When you were

703
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: writing were you writing online? Yeah? We wrote like we

704
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: were sending songs back and forth via Skype, and then

705
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: we kind of wrote once. But then I went back

706
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: to Australia, to visit my family and stuff. One time

707
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: when I was about one, and we wrote together and

708
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: we're like, this feels like something really cool, and then

709
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: we kind of just were like, let's just do this, like,

710
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: let's focus on this. Did you moved to later to

711
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: music time? You did? Yeah, And so ended up getting

712
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: a job at In and Out Burger and that was

713
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of the peak, so that the l A trip

714
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: wasn't good for you, No, I know it was. Man,

715
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job at in and Out, but

716
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I did have a job at Big Wangs. But yeah,

717
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: I had a place at a job at a sports

718
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: park called Big Wangs. And I only realized years later

719
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: what it was kind of implaying. You didn't know then

720
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: You're working at a sports part that was named after

721
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: a large penis. Well then it was like wings though

722
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: as well, because it was known for its wings, And

723
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Wang Wangs. Yeah, So now I

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: figured it out, And there's just a lot of revelation

725
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: coming into my atmosphere today about the Pokemon card and

726
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Big Wings. It's just it's a lot to take in.

727
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: You moved to l A to pursue a like a

728
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: solo solo Yeah, Yeah, we both did individual things and

729
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: it was great. Man. I learned a lot there and

730
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: made some connections with people I'm still friends with and stuff.

731
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: And then Yeah, but then this just felt like the

732
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: right thing, and so I was like we Nashville was

733
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: the end goal, and so I was like, I'm going

734
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: to move back to Australia. Focused on this for a

735
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: couple of years with the end goal of moving to Nashville.

736
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Scott's staff of Creed talks with me about the crazy

737
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: names they almost went with before going with Creed, and

738
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: one in particular that scared a lot of people off.

739
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: You get to Florida State, you want to do music,

740
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: but how the heck do you start, you quote, doing music?

741
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: When do you meet Mark? Literally I went around and

742
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: handmade little flyers I want to you know, looking for

743
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: a band, looking for a guitar player, called this number,

744
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, and was putting them up on campus. UM.

745
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: And then a friend of mine who I went to

746
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: high school with, she went to school at Florida State, uh,

747
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: and I was connecting with a couple of people that

748
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: I knew um in in high school, and she said,

749
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, Mark's here, Mark Tremonti's here and he plays guitar. Uh,

750
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I remember that. I

751
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: remember going to like one of the only two parties

752
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that I snuck out of my house and went to

753
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: because I wasn't allowed to do that. I remember coming

754
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: out of the kitchen and walking by a sliding glass

755
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: door to outside and seeing some dude sitting outside alone

756
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: playing acoustic guitar. Uh. And I remember opening the opening

757
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: the door and looking outside and going, hey, you're Mark.

758
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: You're Mark drawnni right and he goes yeah, And I go,

759
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: you play guitar? And he was yeah, And I got

760
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: I sing and he goes cool man. And that was

761
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: it because he was a junior and I was a senior,

762
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: and that was that was the only because we weren't

763
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: like buddies in high school, but we knew of each

764
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: other and that was our only interaction in high school

765
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: was that moment. And then you know, fast forward, uh

766
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: years later he had gone to Clemson University and then transferred,

767
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: uh you know over to Florida State uh. And then

768
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: we get introduced again, uh through a mutual friend uh.

769
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: And I think because we went to the same high

770
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: school and had some mutual friends that we felt comfortable

771
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: around each other. And I was so excited man to

772
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: to find someone to jam with. And he's I remember

773
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: sitting down with him and and he's just shredding all

774
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: these metal licks and and playing all the stuff that

775
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I really didn't know a lot about at the time,

776
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't care. I was like, it's awesome, it's awesome,

777
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: let's write songs. And we sat down and shared all

778
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: these ideas, and I think we probably came up with

779
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: like twenty ideas in the first like three hours we

780
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: had set down with each other. Uh and uh. And

781
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: then it just started from there and and we decided, Hey,

782
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: let's let's let's do this. Let's start a band. So

783
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because you're gonna start a band,

784
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: do you do you go out and do you play

785
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: for anybody? Just YouTube? Like, do you go to coffee shop?

786
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Do you well? What? We we kept getting together and

787
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: just jamming. Uh? Did he think you were good? I

788
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I I hope so. Um you know, uh,

789
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, I I think we had a mutual admiration

790
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: for each other. And I know he saw because he

791
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: commented before, you know, he saw my passion. Um, you know,

792
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: he saw how committed I was, how much I lyrics

793
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: I was writing and poetry that I was writing, and

794
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: how passionate I was about getting together to rehearse and

795
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: right and and so yeah, you know, I definitely think

796
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: so I think we inspired each other. I saw his

797
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: passion um and his his playing moved me, uh and

798
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: and brought it was like it was amuse, it brought

799
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: things out of me. And I think that energy began

800
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: to share with you know, was shared with each other.

801
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I would inspire him and and and it just became

802
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: this this mutual admiration for each other. Eventually, um. And

803
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: then you know, we had to find a bass player

804
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: and a drummer um. And so we eventually did. We

805
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: found Brian Uh and Scott Phillips. Brian was actually playing

806
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: in a cover band, pretty successful college cover band that

807
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: was like playing gigs every weekend, making making money, you know,

808
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we kind of stole him from

809
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: that gig, and that was a big thing. We were

810
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: like trying to recruit him, and he was like, man,

811
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, I got this good thing going and I'm

812
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: making money, you know, and you guys aren't even playing

813
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: out like you're just you know, jam In and Scott

814
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: singing through Marks amp, same amp that he's playing playing

815
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: guitar from. And finally we got him. We had this

816
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: one bass player. This is hilarious. Uh, I can't remember

817
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: his name. My mind wants to tell me. His name

818
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: was Kern's okay. Uh so anyone out there listening, um,

819
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: if you remember, uh, you know, shoot me a text

820
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: or call in or whatever. But he didn't play. He

821
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't he actually did. He just stood there and pretended

822
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: to play. We couldn't tell because he didn't have he

823
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: didn't have an AMP or he had an amp, but

824
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: it was it's just the way we were rehearsing. It

825
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: was like maybe he did play a note here or there, uh,

826
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: during rehearsals. But we eventually realized when we would have

827
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: our friends come over and you know, and we were

828
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: playing original song that coming up with ideas that me

829
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: and Mark were writing. He wasn't even playing bass. He

830
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: was just standing there trying to look cool. Uh. And

831
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: so we eventually we it's a funny spinal tap kind

832
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: of story, like you know, this this stand in bass

833
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: player that just you know, and he would rock and

834
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: move and you know, look like he was playing but

835
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: like nothing. Uh, and maybe we realized that at our

836
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: first gig. I think Mark came to be made a gig,

837
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: though he actually got to a gig, got to a

838
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: gig like he he fooled us just long enough to

839
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: get to to like one gig, I believe, if my

840
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: memory serves me. And then Mark came to me afterwards

841
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: and he goes, dude, Karns didn't play the entire night,

842
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: and I was like what and uh, you know, so

843
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: we let him go and and uh, you know, eventually

844
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: got Brian and and and Scott and and man. Really

845
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: we were just kind of a you know, jam. Scott

846
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Phillips had this cool little rental house uh that he

847
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: rented while he was going to school and and working,

848
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: and had had this outdoor concrete like garage but I

849
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't even almost like a basement, but it

850
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: was like outdoors and separate from the house, just a

851
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: solid concrete room. Uh. And we would go out there

852
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: and and uh and just jam and righte and rehearse

853
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: and rehearse, but we never played out. Uh. And so

854
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: finally we began to play out. Where did you get

855
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: your first gig? I believe it was a place called Yanny's.

856
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: And what if I if I remember correct not it

857
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: was either Yawnny's or or or oh man, no, it

858
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 1: wasn't your trying to remember did you have a name.

859
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: Then we we went through a couple We went through

860
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: a few names. I mean we we didn't really have

861
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: a definitive name. I mean we we had some stupid ideas.

862
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Um I mean backbone, I mean, you know, how cool

863
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: is that? Right? But I would have been the name

864
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: have been a hit, would have been like that normal.

865
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: And then we had this crazy name that that you know.

866
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Mark had this idea and he goes, I've always had

867
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: this idea for a band name. And he pulls out

868
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: this newspaper article from his wallet and it said Naked Toddler.

869
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: And he had always and he thought Naked Toddler would

870
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: be a killer band name. And and literally, man, he

871
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: carried the article in his wallet and he pulls it out.

872
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: So we're like, all right, let's be Naked Toddler. And

873
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: so we went and played a gig and they had

874
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Naked Toddler on the on the billboard. Uh and uh,

875
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: I didn't go over too well. A lot of people

876
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't show up. I think the name kind of I

877
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: think I was gonna show up. I may have not

878
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of kind of scared them, but but you know,

879
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: no one was really showing up to see us anyway.

880
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: We were really just like playing it at bars, you know,

881
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: playing covers, uh, throwing in you know, an original here.

882
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: They're just trying to figure out our sound and our style. Um.

883
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: And so eventually Brian Marshall, our bass player, Uh, he

884
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: came and he said, you know, I used to be

885
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: in a band called Maddox Creed and UM. When he

886
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: said that, I instantly gravitated to the word creed. Uh,

887
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, being the lyricist and and you know, writing

888
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: the songs that it just fit with how I was

889
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: writing and the songs that that Mark and I were creating,

890
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: in the lyrics that I was coming up with. Uh.

891
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: And I go, let's keep the Creed part. Man. I

892
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: love that, And so we all agreed, and Creed became

893
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: the name. Brandon Lancaster of Lanco talks about the early

894
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: years of the band and why they chose to go

895
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: with Lanco. So, Uh, Lanco is a combination of a

896
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: couple of words, right, isn't it? Like, Yeah, it's a

897
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Lancastering Company. Yeah. From what I remember, somebody worked there

898
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: and that's where you guys like practice they got together. Yeah, well,

899
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: why so the band name comes from My name is

900
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Lancaster. So I uh so, you know that's not

901
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: whouse is a warehouse in the story, but it's not

902
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: not Lancaster. Um, my name is Brandon Lancaster. So you know,

903
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: early days in Nashville, and uh well, I'm trying to

904
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: think how far to go back. I met Tripp, who's

905
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the drummer in Lanko and he worked at a carpet warehouse,

906
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and uh I met him in Chattanoga, Tennessee. I was

907
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: going to school out there, and we both played a

908
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: music festival out there in different bands. And I'm from

909
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Nashville originally, I grew up outside of Nashville. That you

910
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: know how rare that is? Oh? I know, which is fun.

911
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was rare until because when you

912
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: grow up here, everyone's from here. I grew up in

913
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: Smyrna South in Nashville, and uh yeah, when you grew

914
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: up here, everyone's from here. And then I went to

915
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: school and when I came back, you know, started making

916
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: new friends and meeting people, and everyone would ask where

917
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: I was from. And that question was so strange to

918
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: me because I was like, I'm yeah, where are you from?

919
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: And they always a grew from here. I'm like, yeah,

920
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: where are you from? What are you doing? More people

921
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: aren't from here? Oh, especially in the business that we're in.

922
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely yea, more like people aren't from here from I know,

923
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: I've met very few people that are from here. Um.

924
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: But yeah. But I went to school in Chattanooga. So

925
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: when I moved back, Tripp was moving to Nashville the

926
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: same week. I was. So, you know, I've been writing songs,

927
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean virtually my whole life and uh and and

928
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: so I told me I have the slew of songs

929
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: and I want to put a band together, and kind

930
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: of gave the idea and and so we put it

931
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: to get you know, my name is Brena Lancaster. So

932
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: it started as you know, Lancaster and and something, and

933
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: we thought we'd build a band arount around. Let me

934
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: ask you about that. Let me stop you for a second,

935
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: because I always thought, you know, all the guys in

936
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews band, Yeah, h Dave Matthews band, like Dave

937
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Matthews is band bon Jovi, John bon Jovi, nobody else's

938
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: name Van Halen. Yeah, I got a couple of Van

939
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: Hammon bro You know what, how come is it? Because

940
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: you're the one that came up with the idea and

941
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: he was just cool with it because his last name

942
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: is not company, is it? Yeah? Uh it actually no,

943
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: it's not. Um Yeah, we were duos Lancasko. No, it

944
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: was I think the way it started, you know, at first,

945
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: like he was in a different band and I had

946
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: written a bunch of songs. It was a thing where

947
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: I I could have done a solo project if I

948
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: wanted to, I could have just you know, made it

949
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: mine and and hired guys out, and you know, I

950
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: kind of had a revolving door, which is what happened

951
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Nashville lot and early on that's kind of what I

952
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: thought might happen, you know, because I had these songs,

953
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: and you just don't know how long you're gonna keep

954
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: a guitar player or a bass player because everyone's working

955
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: and has to you know, kind of go where the

956
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: money is sometimes. But early on it was, you know

957
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: this thing where I I wrote these songs, but I

958
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: want to build a band around it. I did look

959
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and I did look

960
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: at at Dave Matthews band, where there is a primary

961
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: songwriter and there's this guy that came with the songs,

962
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: but there's a band around it that makes it unique

963
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: and has its own sound. And when you keep those

964
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: same guys together, like even like a Zach Brown band,

965
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: you know it has a unique sound because they've had time.

966
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: The same guys have had time to craft that sound

967
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: and and and build what they're doing and also go

968
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: through hard time together, go through great times together, um

969
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: and and so early on, I didn't know what it

970
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: would look like, you know, I didn't know if it

971
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: would be a band band or if it would be

972
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: this Zach Brown band or Dave Matthews band, and guys

973
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: might come in and come out, and you keep hiring

974
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: and you keep adding people. I didn't know at all

975
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: what it would look like. I just knew we had

976
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Landcaster and then if Tripp wanted to be in this band,

977
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: we could have a company and start building it. And

978
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: that was also where the name change kind of came though,

979
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: was when we shortened it. It was because it was

980
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: the same guys for for a long time, and you know,

981
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: we had gone a year and then we had just

982
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: all become friends. We're like, all right, this is a band,

983
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: so but people know it's is Lancastering Company, but let's

984
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: shorten it to more of a band name, kind of

985
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: sound selfless thing, because Landco does not sound like random

986
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: like guys, it doesn't so selfless thing to make that

987
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: move to go Lanco becauys. If it were me, I'd

988
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: have been like, we're gonna call ourselves brand caster. Thank

989
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: you for listening to this episode of the Bobby Cast.

990
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Choosing a band name that's a good one, that's interesting,

991
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: it's cool we get to pull from all of our

992
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: own archives. Was Abby part of this Abbey got all

993
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: the clips? Yeah, Abby's grabbing archive stuff and it's a

994
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: big part of this Bobby Cast at time. So big

995
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: shout out to Abby Lee Anderson. She's touring all over America,

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Speaker 1: So go see her if she's out there, because who

997
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: knows when people can set in five years she could

998
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Speaker 1: be a star then. So a big shout out to Abby,

999
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: also to Mike d and a big shout out mostly

1000
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Speaker 1: to me. Yeah because it's named after me. Thank you

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