WEBVTT - Rebroadcast Ep15 Brian Scotto 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.320 All right, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.040 With Soun King and Amelia Hartford, and. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.000 Today we get to talk to an old friend of ours, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.239 Brian Scotto, one of the founders of Hunigan, and just 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.880 had an illustrious journey in his life from wanting to 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.800 be an engineer to being a journalist and eventually founding 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.680 one of the most influential car content. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.480 Media houses today. You know, I've known Brian for quite 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.760 some time and he's always been such a huge supporter, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.159 but I don't know that I got to hear his 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.200 story to the level that we heard it in this conversation. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.520 Yeah, and we got to talk about inspiration, inspiration one 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.599 leaves on this earth before we. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.200 Go away, Yeah, and also the different eras or chapters 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.720 that he feels he's had in his life, and also 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:53.440 what's to come. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.240 All right, Well, so enjoy this conversation with our old buddy, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:04.240 Brian Scotto. So, Brian, speaking to driving, Let's start with 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.360 the seed that got you into. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.280 Cars, Like, where did that start? Getting my background? 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.280 I grew up in New York City and as you know, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.440 it's like the capital of driving cars. Right, No, absolutely 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.000 not like a lot I still have friends who are 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.640 in their forties that never got their driver's license because 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.920 like the subway is great and like ride bikes, like 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.280 you don't really need you don't really need cars. But 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.120 my grandfather he was like a rags to riches story. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.320 And when he did make money later on in his 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.880 life and like his like sort of like mid fifties, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.559 he just spent it all on cars. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.800 So he actually passed away when I was eight. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.640 But when he passed away he had I think like 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.640 eighteen or nineteen cars. So for me, like having this 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.320 like huge horde of cars is like kind of just normal. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:49.800 That was sort of like what I grew up around. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.160 And he had like a really weird mix of stuff. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.560 He had everything from like Auburn's and like a bunch 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.680 of other like you know, and then pre war cars. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.880 But then he also had he had two core of 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.880 bets are actually I guess he had three corvettes. He had 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.520 a Dolorean, which like you have to understand, like as 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:06.400 a kid, like. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.440 You don't remember this time because you're you're a youngster. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.120 Don't no, no, I know you know what it is, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.480 but you don't remember when Back to the Future was 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.160 in theaters. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.240 Okay. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.880 As a kid, like that was just the coolest thing, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.760 and that car felt like it was the future. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.080 It felt like it was the coolest thing. Ever. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:24.720 He only had it for a short period of time 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.640 because he bought it and was like, this thing's junk. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.680 And that also kind of crushed me because my Grandfa's 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.440 like this car is trash, Like I don't want it. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.520 But but I got to like be around all that. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.160 And I think I was like six and I was 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.600 in the passenger seat of his fifty seven that we 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.040 were like on this two lane road out in the 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.640 Hampton's and uh, we were his buddy like went to 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.600 go past him because he was like kind of driving 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.120 slow with me, and my grandfather like just dropped second 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.520 gear and like broke the tires free and like the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.320 car was like all over the place. And he turned 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.440 to me and he just said, don't I tell your 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.920 mom about that. And it was just this moment that 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.440 like after that, I was like I want to do 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.440 that like that like that seems like so much fun. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.360 So yeah, that kind of just stuck with me. And 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:07.400 then from there. When I was young, I was really pragmatic, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.519 so like everybody else that was into cars I knew 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.440 were like reading hot Rod magazine all that when they 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.600 were like thirteen fourteen, and I was like, I can't 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.040 afford a car now, so you know, I can't even 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.800 drive on the ability to get a license. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.760 So I got really into like RC cars. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.639 I was like heavily into that, Like I started my 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.160 own RC car club and like I started like making 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.839 my own like parts and stuff like that. And then 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.639 and then as I got older, I was I was 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:35.960 also really into snowboarding, skateboarding, riding BMX, and cars became 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.760 this important thing to like get to the skate park 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.640 or get to the mountain to go ride or do 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.840 something like that. And at that time in the mid nineties, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.680 like Volkswagens kind of were like sort of at the 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.840 forefront of that. I felt like like every they were 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.000 doing commercials with K two and Trek and there was 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.920 this huge community of people in the snowboard world who 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.440 all had like Volkswagens and Audi's. So I ended up 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.720 getting into that and then like super fell into it, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.600 started my own car club, and you know, it was 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.880 always it was always that like hobby side, so but 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.760 like that was it was a weird one for me 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.240 because none of my childhood friends were into cars. It's 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.520 like all like it just wasn't a thing. Like for 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.760 the longest time. Cars was sort of this like secret 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.760 hobby for me, right, Like I was writing graffiti and 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.760 like doing all this other stuff like riding bikes and 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.560 all this stuff with my friends. I like that's what 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.200 like a normal New York City life was. But I 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.880 also like really really enjoyed car culture, and it was 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.000 just it felt hidden for me, Like, you know, going 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.680 to the New York Auto Show was like the only 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.080 thing that felt like I was like a part of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.080 car culturehen I was a teenager, you know, Otherwise it 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.960 didn't really exist, Like I lived in a neighborhood where 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.640 people didn't have fancy cars, Like cars were just were 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:38.400 just transportation. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.320 Yeah, it sounds like, well, anytime I speak to you, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.880 you know, like you would have been a great like 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:50.880 class president, great at like organizing people together. Yeah, where 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.800 does that come from? Is that from the grandfather or 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:53.279 your dad? 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.040 I think it's from my mom, my mom. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.120 Both my parents are scientists, and my mom has very 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.440 much like that leadership kind of administrative personality. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.839 That's just like how she is. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.040 Yeah, and actually my mom is the reason I started 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.520 a car club because I bought this Volkswagen. It was 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.440 a four door Mark three slammed like way too low 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.800 even back then, and I was like sitting at home 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.960 and it was like the summer, and I like I 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.240 just was complaining to my mom. I'm like, yeah, just 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.040 like a bummer, Like I don't really know anyone who's 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.279 into cars. And although a few people I've met, like 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.400 they're all Honda guys and like I just didn't like 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.400 have akin to them. It was like a different world 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.040 from the VW side. My mom said like, well, why 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.000 don't you just like start your own car club. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.800 It was like nineteen. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.800 I'm like, oh, like how would I do that. She's like, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.839 I don't know, go figure it out, Like just I'm 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.240 sure you can figure it out. And I did that 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.160 start my own car club, and within a year later, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.159 like we had like thirty members. But what was the 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.120 important part was like we started doing events. So we 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.360 started doing a monthly cruise. So we did this thing 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.200 called the car club was called auto Creek and which 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.720 like loosely translates in German too like automotive competition or 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.200 something like auto wars whatever. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.360 When I was nineteen. It sounded great, but we started it. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.599 It was like this small group of people who were 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.800 like basically lived in like New York City and a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.080 little bit of Long Island, and at least we started 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.680 and from there we started doing events, and we came 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.480 up with this idea which like I look back at 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.000 it now as an adult who has like things that 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.200 like people could take for me in a lawsuit. And 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.160 I realized, like how little wyability like we had on 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:25.719 any of this. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.159 But we'd started this cruise. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.560 We found a bunch of windy roads out Long Island, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.680 which realized, like growing up in New York, like it's 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 a grid, so like there was no fun roads to drive. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.800 So there was obviously a street race. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.560 Community that like operated a lot in Brooklyn and Queens, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.880 but I wasn't really into that. Like I went and 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.599 I enjoyed watching it and it was kind of like 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.160 fun to be a part of that until Fast and 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:46.520 Furious came out and ruined the entire city. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:47.839 We'll talk about that later, But. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.919 I was more into like the dynamic element, right like 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.560 corners and like driving. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.280 Canyon style roads. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.960 Well, not that we had that in New York, but 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.960 we did have some windy, like you know, forest roads 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.960 out Long Island, so I like I went, I found 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:03.760 them all and we started doing this event. We called 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.719 it Full Moon Full Throttle, and the idea was the 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.760 Friday closest to the full Moon. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.680 We would meet in a like a rest area. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.840 Off of the Long Island Expressway at midnight and then 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.920 we would go drive the roads for like two and 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.600 a half hours and then go home. And like, it 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.200 started with twenty cars and by the time we did 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.960 the last one, we had one hundred and seventy five 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:24.600 cars show up. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:24.960 Wow. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.920 And I was like twenty years old trying to organize 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.720 this with like walkie talkies and like, and like we 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.680 through all of it. We only had we only had 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.840 two accidents the whole time, and they were like minor, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.800 like you know, slide off, hit a rim or hit 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.120 a telephone pole. No one else ever got hurt, but like, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.000 it was amazing that we did them for I think 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.000 we did twenty three or twenty four of them. So 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.320 we ran it for two years as a monthly event. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.120 So I went from feeling like there was no community 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.680 around that to sort of creating something that became this 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.280 hub for all of it, and then we also did 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.920 a car show event because at the time, like car 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.320 shows were like really really stressful, Like back then it 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.840 was like you have to be here rollins at six am, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.320 like you've got to be and you can't leave till 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.360 four pm and blah blah blah blah, and and you 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.280 got to be standing by your car for these four 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.240 hours so when the judges come by, like you can 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.040 walk them through the car. And I was like, that 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.960 wasn't what I wanted. I just wanted this like cool 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.160 hangout experience, and we created it. We did this event 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.200 called Dub and Grub, and we made it like people's 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.200 choice so that way, like people didn't really get that 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.080 stressed about like judging, like just come and hang out 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.080 and like it's. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.200 Pot luck, like bring your own meals. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:27.480 And by the time we got to like the third 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.040 or fourth one, like people were like cooking pigs and 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:31.880 like bringing full pigs to the event. Like it was 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.240 this like amazing experience because you also think of like 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.880 how culturally diverse Queens is, which is where we had 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.360 the event, So it's like the amount of different types 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.480 of food we had there was like awesome. So it 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.800 just became this like rad like feast for all these 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.599 people in the car community, especially in the volks like 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.360 nowity it started to grow bigger than that later on 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.120 to do and I think that's when I realized, like, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.280 as much as I enjoyed cars myself, a big part 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.200 of it was like the community around cars and like 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.319 all of that, and and you know, you fast forward 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.000 from there and two of the guys who were in 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.320 my car club like fifteen years later stood next to 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.560 me at my wedding. So yeah, to me, the car 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.280 community part of it was always the big part of it, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.560 and like being able to tie that into like going 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.800 driving and doing all of that. So yeah, that was 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.480 I don't know, I kind of spot you asked me 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.720 one question when my grid got back here we are now, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.720 So yeah, that was like and that was at the time. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.440 It's crazy because so I was going to school and 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.120 I'm sitting here like bailing on class so I could 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.960 like plan these events. And it's funny because at the 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.920 time I was like I knew how just like irresponsible 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.160 that was, but like I just was, I was enjoying 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.040 it so much. But now looking at where I sit today, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.880 I'm like I should skip more classes and learn more 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.280 of it because I was learning more doing all that. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.000 And I was also like using things at school to 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.120 be able to like design flyers, like I'm going into 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.400 like the computer lab and like using the equipment to 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.440 like do stuff for my car club. And at no 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.440 point while I was doing that that I think that 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.200 this was going to be my career. Instead, I saw 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.760 it as like this major distraction from what I was 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.360 trying to do in school. And put all of that together. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.280 Why engineering, where'd you start there? 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.840 Calculus all of that stuff like was second nature to me, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.200 So I was like, oh, you know math really well, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.480 then you should go and do engineering. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.760 You know, you take your aptitude tests and you're like, oh, I. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.840 Should either be an underwater welder or I should be 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.760 an engineer. And it was like I hate swimming, so 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.120 I was like, I guess I'll be an engineer. And 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.200 I liked I wanted to design cars and build stuff, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.600 and that's where I thought my engineering degree would go. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.280 It's still like how my brain works and what I 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.839 really enjoy is like making things, and that's even how 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.880 I approach content and like creative is like the I 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.280 enjoyed the building of things right, Like, that's the thing 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.800 I really enjoy and and I think it was very 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.560 obvious to me early on in engineering program that like, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.240 I was never going to be one of the best, 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.640 I was going to be someone else's number monkey, which 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.560 meant I was never going to get to like lead 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.680 design and like and be that. Instead, I'd be the 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.200 one helping someone else do it. That made me lose 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.040 a bit of interest in it. I mean, this ends 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.120 up being an entire podcast about my college career. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.760 But did you get your degree? 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.480 I did not. I'm six credits short. I ended up trading. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.439 I ended up like third year, three and a half 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.120 years in, I take a journalism class, and like I 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.840 fell in love. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.160 I was. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.840 It was the first time where I wouldn't miss class. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.520 I loved it and it was one of my favorite things. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.720 And I also had a fantastic professor because she actually 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.640 because it was my elective, I didn't take it as 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.360 seriously as a lot of my other stuff, even though 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.319 I enjoyed it. But when it came down to finals, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.040 I was like more thrashing on all these other classes 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.240 that one I was barely showing up to and I. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.560 Needed to study for and this class. I thought, like, 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.959 I like, I'm doing well on it, it doesn't matter. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.760 And I handed in my final article late and she 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.040 gave me a D. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.680 And I was like, oh, this sucks. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.160 Like I wanted to do the minor, but like now 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.880 I got to go back and take this class again 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.000 for it to apply for my minor. I was like, oh, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.680 I guess I'm not going to do it. So I 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.240 ended up backing out of the program. And she called 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.480 me and said, hey, I saw that you. You know, I 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:05.839 saw that you backed out of the program. And she 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.760 basically gave me the story of like, look in journalism, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.079 if you're late, it doesn't print, so it didn't happen, right, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.280 but you're but she kind of gave me that pep 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.760 talk of like you have a really good knack for this. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.920 I don't want to see you drop the minor, like 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.679 I will retroactively fix this, but you need to go 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.480 and you know, maintain a grade of whatever in the 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.640 rest of the program and do all of this. So 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.480 uh's toughly kind it was, but it was in the end, 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.800 it didnematics when I ever got my diploma. But what 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.839 mattered was in a world of like I had only 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.920 ever been applauded for my scientific side of like thinking. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.520 She was the first person to ever say like, you're 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.240 good at storytelling. You understand this, Like this is something 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.720 that I think you really should chase after. So then 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.240 I started taking film classes and you know, and all 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.360 these different media classes and everything shift, and all of 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.160 a sudden, I was like really interested to go to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.480 school again, and I really enjoyed it. This has been 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.360 a bit of a decided I think this isn't car stories. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.520 It's not like college stories. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.240 But no, cars are the connective tissue of what brings 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:03.800 us all here. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:04.080 Yeah. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.920 Yeah, and you're a story Like your trajectory is so 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.640 clear to what you do and what you've built today, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:19.520 from organizing a car crew to entrepreneurship to engineering essentially 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.480 building with your hands to ye. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.800 In a weird way, it all like lined up like 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.319 when it was happening. I don't think I was like, yeah, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.280 I'm on this great trajectory, like well it's happening. You're like, oh, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.880 this just didn't this didn't work out, this failed out. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:33.240 You know. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.560 There was certainly a period of time where you know, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.520 I got that talk from my dad which was like, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.520 you know, maybe school is not for you, Like maybe 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.840 you should, you know, join the labor union, maybe should 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.440 go do that, you know something something, And and you know, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.480 my dad came from from like a blue collar family, 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.400 so he was like, maybe that's maybe like what you 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.720 need to go do, because like you're not enjoying school 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.200 and I wasn't. And then it all just sort of 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.280 turned around and I realized that like the things that 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.240 made me happy. And my dad used to always refer 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.520 to it as like pink collar, which was like I 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.680 enjoy the white collar work of creative, but I need 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.679 to touch it and be a part of it. And 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.640 like even when we're on set filming, like I always 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.240 talk to the grips because like I enjoy building erector 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.840 sets to mount cameras to think. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.559 I love that pink color. I'm gonna borrow that. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.320 Pink Essentially, what you do today is storytelling from I 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.720 mean literally storytelling with content creation, but also building cars. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:24.800 Every car is a story, Oh. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.160 Yeah for sure, Yeah sure, And that's like such a 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.640 big part for me is the story of cars. Like 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.520 we we always talk about this internally attunigans, like cars 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.840 need to name because once you name them, then like 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.680 they stand out and they have a personality alive. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.200 Do you have a name for Sienna? 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.760 No, I've been you know, after you talked to it. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.480 That's probably. Well, I have two cars that I don't. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.320 Have names because you're really good with naming your vehicles. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.720 Yeah, well you know cause I but I can't name 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.880 them until they have to. I have to have my 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.600 hands on it and I have to spend time with it. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.040 But at the same time, you don't want to build 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.160 the Siena up because you and I have talked about this, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:14:59.440 like why don't you have wheels on it? 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.520 Because then it's I don't you like the practicalness of it? 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:02.920 Right now? 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.920 That's what it's low key, like I'm invisible. Yeah I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.040 can if it's all pimped out. I can't park in 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.960 front of like your house, just sleepy. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:17.960 Like what is with those big little different? How different 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.760 his thought process is on cars than mine and yours? 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.240 Set Like we're sitting there being like, all right, how 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.120 much power can the tank before I put a window 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.920 through the block? Right, He's sitting there going can I 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.240 sleep in the back in Beverly Hills? 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.960 Well, wake me up exactly? 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.360 But the windows dark enough that they won't see me, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.920 but the cops won't pull me over. Like, what's that threshold? 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.120 This is where this is where his brain's at. This 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.760 is my favorite side of you. You're like, oh yeah, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.080 Sun Kang, Like, oh yeah, that's my buddy. He like 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.520 sleeps in his van, like outside of the people's houses. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.440 You know him from Fast and Furious. Yeah, No, I 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.080 know him as the guy who sleeps in a van. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.440 He's that guy. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.320 I'd love to see the neighbor just walk out and 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:01.720 knock to be like, who's sleeping around here? 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.600 And it's you that crawls out of the of the seattle. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.160 Well, I'm sure that he. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.800 There's been photos of him on next door where people 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:13.320 are like suspicious, man, he drives around a mini doesn't 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:26.280 meany kids, There's something wrong with this guy. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.120 It's funny. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.400 Is that either people really love the fact that I 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.000 drive a minivan, right and they're like, you d have 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.160 a minivan? That's so awesome, or it's complete disappointment. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.560 Right, it's not the yeah, the fact thought it was 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.520 going to be. Yeah, they don't. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.920 They don't. They don't want that. Yeah, show up to 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.480 Valet and they're like, I come out and they're like, 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.200 oh my god, and they're like, what are you driving 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.520 minivan for? And I try to explain to him. I'm like, hey, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.560 man has eighteen couples thirty six miles a gaunt. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:16:59.520