1 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Blowing out of the backfields, 3 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, 5 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 6 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: You're looking live at Tostitos Champion will part a little 7 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: piece of Tostitos Championship plaus outside Fort Center. It's a 8 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: star in Frisco, Texas, where it is fifty nine degrees, 9 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: it feels like fifty six. The high today is seventy three. 10 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: The low tonight is forty nine. Good old Texas. Spring 11 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: weather doesn't know what it wants to do. And you're 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: looking at a weird angle. You're looking at the side 13 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: of Ford Center where they are taking down last year's 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: dark mode graphics and putting up this year's city Drop graphics. 15 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: So by the end of today should look like a 16 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: brand new building. So how you fellas doing good good 17 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 1: good good brother? Jess just fell in him, just walked 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: in him. What up? How was your Easter? Kirk By Nice? Yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't you know, had family and all 20 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: that kind of Yeah. Jesse comes in with his phone 21 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: playing and disrupting the whole podcast. Nate, how you doing great? Man? 22 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: As Hey? I enjoyed Where were you last week? Where 23 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: all did you go last week? I went to Florida twice? Twice? Yeah, 24 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: one time I did twenty eight hundred miles because I 25 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: went to Orlando and all around Orlando we had this 26 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: title pride thing. He didn't I love, came back home, 27 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: kissed my wife and then left again, you know, and uh, 28 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, and went back to Tallahassa, Florida, which I 29 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: did like seventeen. Why didn't you just stay in Florida stay? 30 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, man? Why why waste times? Just one spot? 31 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I like the gas prices? Yeah, I did check him. 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: That's why this is the first time I've traveled. But 33 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this ain't bad. I don't mean 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the gasses. You know. How long were you backed me 35 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: a trick cap or something? No, that's the hardest car. 36 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: That's by the one I had last Remember last week, 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't get that one open. How long were you 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: back in Dallas? I spend da was about two days 39 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: and then I left and left drove to Florida, drove 40 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: back to Dallas, which is what about a fifteen hours 41 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: fanteen all, you know, stay for two days, and drove 42 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: back there. But then I came back this time and 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I stopped late at night, chilling in the van, slept 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: in the back seat, and got got up. Man, you 45 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: know about a couple of Man, it's good, man. I mean, 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: God makes the world is so beautiful. You see it 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: the same, you know, you you know, go down the 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: same highways saying roll with the trees and the animals 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: and the people, and you know, and I'm talking to folks. 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: I get out and I walk around, you know, I 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: do the John Madden thing in holla foot what's up? 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: Are you doing? Great to see you. People recognize you 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: have something to the voice. They don't know what's up? 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: What's up? Oh? I know you you the fact guy 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: that hangs out with Uh. Well good, They're good to 56 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: have you back. I'm glad. I'm glad to get your 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: crew back together for the first time in a while. 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: I was in Florida last week. Where are you Yeah? Well, 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, big big day for you. What you do? 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Interviewed Jimmy Johnson. Oh, you're doing a documentary, Serve, tell 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: us a little bit about it. Yeah, we went down 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: there too. We're doing a documentary on the nineteen ninety 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: one season, which Nave. You've helped us out with that, 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: and yeah, so Jimmy agreed to an interview and we 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: rushed down there and got a little time with him. 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: It's nice on the boat. Now we're at his restaurant. Okay, 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: all right, he's in Boca. Yeah, that's well, that's where 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: his restaurant is. I'm not exactly sure. Where did you 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: eat at the restaurant? Now we we Uh had bothered 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: them enough, I guess. So we was opportunity for free food. 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Now I went no free food and bone, that's for sure. 72 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: He was great. Good Jesse, how was your Easter? It 73 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: was good? Yea. My best friend came up. Hadn't seen 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: him in like over two years due to all the 75 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: pandemic stuff. So we got a chance to hang out 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: and UH went to the fight and Uh again I 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: realized that I'm old. I made you realize that I 78 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: just can't hang and run like I used to. You know, 79 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: I could understand that when you were drinking, but you're 80 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: not even drinking but when you look at the clock 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: and it's two o'clock, it's two thirty, and then you 82 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: got to get up and try to be a person 83 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: the next day. Oh man, I was like. And then 84 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: for the people who do drink, I don't know how 85 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: they I don't know how they drink and then do 86 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: it again the next day, and like make this a 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: like a habitual thing every weekend. I knew I live 88 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: that life. You just keep doing it, sweet, so you 89 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: don't remember how bad it is. Sweet I you know, 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: with the church on Sunday, that was a struggle. Hung 91 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: out too late Saturday night after the fight, but I 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: got up and won't third a long. Sometimes you feel 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: worse if you don't drink because you're tired and you're lethargic. 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: If you if you, if you do it right, you 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: just you know, it's still with the next day. What 96 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: throws me off is I'm I'm very system right, very routine. 97 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: So like if I start like late, like my my 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: my nights in later on a consistent basis, or what 99 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm eating, is it kind of in the same wheelhouse 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: like that stuff rex me. It throws me like if 101 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't have enough water in me, if I'm not 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: sleeping enough, if I'm not eating, like like I'm not 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: the most I'm I'm not sitting there saying like I'm 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: the most healthiest either either ever. But like if it's 105 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: fast food for breakfast, fast food for lunch, you know, 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: if it's everything is like always out to eat for 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a multiple days in a row, not enough water, not 108 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: working out, not getting the proper sleep, I'm finished. Really, 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, We'll talk about the fighting a little bit. 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: You went, right, yes, anybody all right? I know there's 111 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: something that you want to get into. Tragic story over 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the weekend where a young man camera ray lost his 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: life on March eighteenth, and then kind of implicated our 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: player was under what was an under investigation? Well the 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: group question, Yeah, the good question him. He was the 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: one who kind of stood out on the security camera. Yeah, 117 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: so you got called in. So what's the latest development 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: they've made a couple of rest over the weekend? Right? Yeah, 119 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Well I was Calvin Joseph. Sorry, Yeah, he was with 120 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: a group a month or so ago, and not him, 121 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: but the guys he was with got into a fight 122 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: with another group and then that didn't last long. But 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: then as they were pulling away. Some of the people 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that he was with in the vehicle shot at the 125 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: rival group and one of the Raymond I think he 126 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was Cameron. Cameron he was killed and so um, yeah, 127 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: they were able to identify Kelvin Joseph on the videotape 128 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: and so they questioned him and I think two arrests 129 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: were made yesterday Friday, right, yeah, but they quickly after 130 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: they question him. So so yeah, it's an interesting tragic 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: situation and it's going to be interesting, I guess to 132 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: see where he lands. Is there are laws in place 133 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: that just being in the vehicle could land him in 134 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: serious trouble. So it does. It does. Side of that, 135 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: it's what did the Cowboys do? What did the NFL do? 136 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. So, you know, the the tragic 137 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: thing is is that lives were lost and ruined in 138 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: this moment, and that we'll start there. Thoughts and prayers 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: go out to the ray family because a lot of 140 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: times in these situation is that the when you're dealing 141 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: with a high profile that gets lost, that get lost 142 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: like someone lost a son, a brother, like a friend. 143 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: He's gone. This was twenty years old or eighteen years old. 144 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: He was he was celebrating the birthday he was celebrating. 145 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Was here celebrating a birthday from Athens? Tell he was 146 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: up coming up from I guess up, but down or 147 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: whatever from Athens, Texas. That's it. He's done over what 148 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: a disagreement you step up my shoes or push I 149 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: don't know what what it was. But you know, a 150 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: life is now lost in a family's life is turned 151 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: upside down because of him. Now, when you come to 152 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the Kelvin Joseph situation, this is a guy who's kind 153 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: of come in with a little bit of a character 154 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: issues from his time and industry in college, and you 155 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: hate to see this happen because there are so many 156 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: different ways this thing could have been handled but for 157 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph to put himself And it's not just Kelvin himself. 158 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: We've seen athletes all across the board for years and 159 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: years and years and years not fully understand that at 160 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when all said and done, 161 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you're the one that's going to lose the most when 162 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: you put yourself in these situations. Did you know the 163 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: night of that someone died? Probably not, But the fact 164 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: of the matter is you were in a car, and 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: I believe the SUV was owned by you. Um, very 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: rarely do you get in the car, Like when I 167 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: go in to hang out with people. I know who 168 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with. I know he likes to drink, 169 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I know he carries guns, I know he got a 170 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: hot temper. I know who I'm hanging out with. So 171 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that Kelvin got into 172 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: that car and didn't know folks were strapped. Find it 173 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: hard to believe the off the gate. I also find 174 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: it hard to believe that there was a moment in 175 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: time from when the when the fight ended, there had 176 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: to be either a walk or run to the truck, 177 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: And in that moment there had to be something that 178 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: said because they had to turn around, someone had to 179 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: know that there was guns being loaded, guns being rounds 180 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: being put in the chamber, cocked, whatever you want to 181 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: call it, before that situation happened. I just I need 182 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: for I need for these guys to understand that these 183 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: like these situations can be avoided. This was at an 184 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: avoidable situation. This situation did not have to happen. And 185 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: there were multiple points in this thing where where and 186 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: I get it, it it ain't the cool thing to do, 187 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and it ain't the tough thing to do. Hey, hey, fellas, 188 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not getting in this car with y'all. Right, Damn 189 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: what you think about me, Damn what you say about me, 190 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm the one 191 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna lose the most. The incident happened, then you 192 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: don't say a word. Now, as someone Nate, you're also 193 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: someone who's been in this organization for a long time. 194 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: There's people to call. There's people to call. If not 195 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: that night, that next morning, not to come in and 196 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: say that you're a snitch or you're this, or you're that, 197 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: and and and and and and let me address Let 198 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: me address the snitching situation. It's my camera's all up. 199 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Let me address this snitching situation thing. Okay, because because 200 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: people get on Twitter and half of you have more 201 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: than half of you, ninety five percent of you, ain't 202 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna bust a graper in the fruit fight, ain't gonna 203 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: kill none, ain't gonna let nothing die. So don't sit 204 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: here and get on Twitter and all of a sudden, 205 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: now you're talking about some old he's snitching, he's nitch 206 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: and he's nitching snitching or ratting. Those type of rules 207 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: only apply to those who are in the street. Code 208 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: only applies to those who are in the street. Let 209 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: me be very clear about that. If you're not a 210 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: street dude, and only sixty five percent of them right, 211 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Because when the judge start giving out what we call 212 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: football numbers, when that judge started talking about twenty five years, 213 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: twenty years, thirty years, you sing because I ain't going 214 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: to jail for nobody. But the fact that Kelvin held 215 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: onto this for an entire month until he became a 216 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: person of interest identified him that to me, not to me, 217 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: he became the only suspect. He became he became the 218 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: only see. It went from trying to find these suspects too. 219 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: He became memory. Lewis, you became the only suspect, Nate knew. 220 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: You become the only subspect because of who you are 221 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: and what you're about into the snitching point. I told 222 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: my kids a long time ago. Let me tell y'all something. 223 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: That dude of that girl the first one to say, 224 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: hey man, let's keep this quiet. Let's don't say a word, 225 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: keep it to yourself, don't let the police walk to 226 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: him first. I've seen it. I've been a part of it. 227 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: It ain't no such thing. People that's in the federal 228 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: pen with any reduced time. If you see a person 229 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: that has no reduced time, that means he's met committed 230 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: a petty crime. Oh he's got semi five years or 231 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: more and it can't be reduced everybody else. It's a 232 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: very same That sounds good on the rap Brocker, go 233 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: ahead on ja. It does sound good for the rap record. 234 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: That sounds good for whatever you want to kind of 235 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: portray to be. But let's be honest, like to have 236 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: this whole like, it blows my mind when I see, 237 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: like you know, athletes are saying that they're in the 238 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: gang or they're in this and they're rap how they 239 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: are though, how like like you that ain't real. I'm 240 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell you a lot ain't real. A lot of 241 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: kids in certain areas, it's not every area. And then 242 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: we're talking very small are in gangs have been a 243 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: part of gangs. Are gangs have kicked them out because 244 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: they saw that. You know, a lot of times gangs 245 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: kick you out because they see you have a future. 246 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: They won't hold you to the creed or the policies 247 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: and I get that, but but there ain't no way 248 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: that you could be a professional athlete and still be 249 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: gang backing. Don't don't even don't those two don't even 250 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: make it that. Yeah you can, Yeah you can, t 251 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah you can, Yeah you can. I'm sorry, Jess. I mean, 252 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: if you're gonna talk real, let's keep it real. I 253 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: just find it hard. I find it. I find it 254 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: hard for you to be a true gangster when when 255 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: when you have a seven am report time, I find 256 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: it real hard to be a true gangster when it's 257 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: search things. It's such thames called lieutenants, such things called soldiers, 258 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: And depending on who you are and where your money, 259 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: if you findancing, you will be held to the same rules. 260 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: If if I'm raking out to the brotherhood, it's gonna 261 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: be held to the same same standards. No I'm not, 262 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: do I have to tote up? No? I don't. You 263 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: told it? You know if I'm raking you down? What's 264 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: the deal it? Life is so funny because we we 265 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: think that the higher you go up as a human 266 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: being in the in this world, in this life, we 267 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: think things don't still stick to us. Yes it does. 268 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: That's what took a lot of It took a lot 269 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: of guys a lot of time to realize, Okay, I 270 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: don't have to be a part of this. You know. 271 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: It's it's an oath that I made and it was 272 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the wrong oath, you know. Uh, yeah, it's it's a 273 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: few guys that hold on to that because they think 274 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: once they get out of football, they're gonna save all 275 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: their friends. But you can't say that type of person. 276 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: That type of person have to save themselves. But at 277 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it never works out. And 278 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: we're looking at this, this Joseph situation where now your 279 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: career is on the brink, like your career is on 280 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: the brink, because we still don't just because you weren't 281 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: arrested today. Hey, now, now what's gonna come down to? 282 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: Because if he if he and we don't know when 283 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: they had the meeting his lawyers and the police. We 284 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: don't know what was said, but he wasn't arrested. Immediately 285 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: after talking to the police, they then go and make 286 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: arrest for two other these gentlemen. And I'm no lawyer, 287 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm not, but what I'm saying is it looks like 288 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: he gave information that led to this arrest. So now 289 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: when these guys get arrested, the detectives or whoever were 290 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: going to say, yeah, we have information that we got 291 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: from Now what's going to be our story versus his story? 292 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: And then it comes down to who got the better lawyers? Right, 293 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: who got who got the better lawyers? At the end 294 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: of the day, you you would think Joseph has the 295 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: most money, has the most backing because he has the 296 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: celebrity that he's probably gonna have the better representation when 297 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: it comes to court. No, you know, I laugh because 298 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: you you you you touching on some important parts. But 299 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: it's it's too much to go over. It's too much 300 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: really because if these guys, and I'm not a lawyer, 301 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: I've been in some bad situations that don't turned out 302 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: to be good and bad for Nate. So I'm giving 303 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: you part of the experiences that I've been around. And 304 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: this does not have nothing to do with Kevin jose 305 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: because I was not there. But he can be automatically released. 306 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: If these two guys that have been turned in and say, 307 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: hey man, this dude didn't know what I was gonna do. 308 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: He know I was going to that level? You know 309 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: that releases Kevin Joseph if you get what I'm saying, 310 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: and that is just the truth about it. If they say, hey, man, 311 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I was hot, I got mad. Yeah, it's make him 312 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: accessory that he's in my car. I know some people 313 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: that that went down. And then and then the people say, man, 314 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: this guy did not know this young lady did not 315 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: know that this was going down like this, that I 316 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: was gonna take this shot that can release him. But 317 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: we don't know. And I don't want to speculate, and 318 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't want people run around saying, well Newton said, 319 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying or something you know, But 320 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: when you when you're talking about a life the de 321 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: Ray family, you're talking about a mother and a father. 322 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: That is who I would be scared of. That's who 323 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: I would That's who I would be scared of. In 324 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: their lawyers because this goes so much for thinking for 325 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Joseph than he knows. So that's what I would 326 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: be scared of. Uh and uh, I just feel bad 327 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: and and and and I'm saying this on right here now. 328 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Y'all need to bring me over there and talk to 329 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: than players. See, because it's nowhere in the world you're 330 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna know this go down like this. I'm talking about life, 331 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: ain't te about cussing somebody out, just throw a few 332 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: hands and walked away. It's nowhere in the world that 333 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: you you ain't smiling to know that you need to 334 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: get the joneses out ahead of this. But see they 335 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I've had the luxury of talking to 336 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: the rookies for the last couple of years here and 337 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: sad to say that I've talked to Kelvin Joseph in 338 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: those rookie meetings, and we've seen some posiums upon some posiums, 339 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and we've seen people being brought in and being brought 340 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean we we've Josh Brett, who've been a part 341 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: of some stuff here, has spoke to guys I mean 342 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: they're they've But as you and I both know, you're 343 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: still going to have certain guys that are still going 344 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: to say even in that meeting, it's gonna go in 345 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: one ear and out the other, and they're still gonna 346 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: go and do what it is they want to do, 347 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: how they want to do it when they're now The 348 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: hope is that this changes. This is this is a 349 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: trajectory changing, a pivot moment for Kelvin Joseph that now 350 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: he realizes I really and truly got to get my 351 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: crap together because I don't know what the Cowboys are 352 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna do. Are they're gonna keep him on the roster, 353 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: That's my question. I mean, do you let him go 354 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: or do you try to that's gonna be That's gonna 355 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: be a tough situation. I mean, I don't know. And 356 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been one who have been very, very 357 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: very forgiving and merciful when it comes to certain situations 358 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: where they've given guys second and third and fourth and 359 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: fifth chances to kind of rectify situations. I don't know, 360 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: but we've also seen that the league is probably not 361 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: going to be I mean, we've had cases here where 362 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: people have not been charged by the law and still 363 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: had to face stiff punishment from the league on this 364 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: team and the round, you know. So, I mean there's 365 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna be some repercussions that come down. I don't know 366 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. Teams may want to shy 367 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: away from this stuff and say, listen, we don't need 368 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: any more black publicity or that kind of person in 369 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the locker room or so on the sofa. But to 370 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: your point. They absolutely when I say make those phone 371 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: calls in these moments. This is one of the things 372 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: about the Jones family. In this organization, there isn't much 373 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: over the years, and this dates back all the way 374 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: to the early nineties when you were here. There ain't 375 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: much that ain't been that ain't happened here. The cowboys 376 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: they this is if there's one place that is damaged 377 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: control ready, it's this organization. Unfortunately, unfortunately, fortunately unfortunately, but 378 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: when they get when you when they get woken up 379 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: to a call for a situation this big, and they're 380 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: surprised by it. What's the lease that that that that 381 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: that'll set some folks off? The lease, the lease, the 382 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: lease team, the highest team, all these teams are ready 383 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: see this. It's just one of the few things that 384 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: got out Jesse, you know. And this is why that 385 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: phone call should have been made night off, because if 386 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: the phone call was made night of and they could 387 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: have got in front of this, this doesn't blow up 388 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: and they would have had Joseph over there. This doesn't 389 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: blow up the way it has blown up now to 390 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: to to where it's at that Again, there's enough people 391 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: in this organization that know enough people, and enough pds 392 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: around here in DA's and judges and all that kind 393 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: of stuff. This could have got if you're if Joseph, 394 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: whatever he said that day could have been said a 395 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: month ago and they could have been on top of 396 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: this and they couldn't. And if the system loves those 397 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: that come forward versus those that are forced to come forward, 398 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: if they would have say, Okay, this kid caress on 399 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: his mind. He's got a heart, he's got a mind. 400 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: But now society saying, wow, this dude waited a mind 401 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: because they yeah, you know, if you're right, Jess, how 402 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: can you how can we get a young man a 403 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: young lady to be proactive? You know? It happens in 404 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: our homes, you know, like, man, why are you telling 405 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: me this HEREI was happening what you know? You? And 406 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: that is what gag. Gang related things for those of 407 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: y'all that don't know the game related things are bigger 408 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: than I'm talking to a gang member, Bigger than God, 409 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: bigger than bigger than dad, Mom, bigger than brothers sister. 410 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: So when you gain related and everybody decides that they're 411 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: gonna close their mouth, it takes what happened for somebody 412 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: to open them all. Now. I know for a fact 413 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: that when they contacted Joseph hey Bro his own film, 414 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: we got enough to deduct. Don't come to us playing. 415 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: Do not come to us playing, So missus Joseph couldn't 416 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: come plain, I'm being honest. They they told him, don't 417 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: don't come playing. If you come playing, if we're gonna 418 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: play with you and see, you gonna lose, because it's 419 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: a life involved. And like you just beat up somebody, 420 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: you walk away and get him some money because a light. 421 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: And that's why I say, I wouldn't be so my 422 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: word about my friends, as I would be worried about 423 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: these parents. That civil suits, that civil and in the lawyers. 424 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: That's why I would be worried about that civil suit. 425 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: On the way. All right, let's take our first break 426 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: when we come back. Voluntary workouts start today. And if 427 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: i'm missus Joseph, I am out there running more than 428 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: anybody I'm I'm you'll see the face how broad it's 429 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: makeup time and you can't you can't do enough? Does 430 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: he show up? Will be I would make them send 431 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: me home. I'll make them send me home, and and 432 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and my whole life would change. You have to. I'm 433 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: telling and people like way he doing it called yes 434 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I am that's why. Yes, that's why I'm doing it. 435 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and we'll talk about what does 436 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: voluntary mean when we come back on hanging with the boys. 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Voluntary workouts started today. 486 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: What exactly our valid terry workouts? Because there they say voluntary, 487 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: but are they really voluntary? And how much pressure is 488 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: on you as a player to be at voluntary workouts? 489 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: The greater the athlete who comes in shape, The greater 490 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: the athlete who comes in shape. It don't mean a thing. 491 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: The Nate News of the world. It's the id for 492 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: the coach to see being that trying. No, there are 493 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: tiers tears who this this matters for the Jesse Hollies 494 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: of the world. Everything right, it ain't voluntary. It's mandatory 495 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: that you get there. For those middle tier guys, it's 496 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: mandatory that you you get there. It's hopeful for your seas. Yeah, 497 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: your dacks, your tanks, those players of the worlds. I mean, 498 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen guys who had these workout bonuses 499 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: in the places they're supposed to be and all this 500 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You gotta do some many percent of 501 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: the workout bonuses and be here for the all season workouts. 502 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: And it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars four hundred 503 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: thousan dollars. And they were like, we're out, I'm out. 504 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm training in Florida, I'm training in California. Now 505 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: y'all can exactly. But for those guys, it's it's truly voluntary. Um. 506 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: But you would like to see as full of participants 507 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: as possible because this is the part where the team 508 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: building and bonding starts to come together. So you would 509 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: like to see your Dak Prescott's of the worlds in 510 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: the building working out, showing that true leadership, you know, 511 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: bonding guys together, getting some extra working in the facility 512 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: while you know you can be here doing different things 513 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: like that. So for those guys, it's always a hope. 514 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: It's hope. It's really truly voluntary for guys like Dak 515 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: and those those caliber of players on your roster, but honestly, 516 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: for and that's only really for about maybe six to 517 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: ten guys. Really for everyone else, it's I'm either trying 518 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: to keep a job or we're working to get a 519 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: promotion in that job. So I want to make sure 520 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm here doing what I got to do in the offseason. 521 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: We know that the team coaches and all they want 522 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the guys here. They don't you know, voluntary or whatever. 523 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: How did the players feel but guy doesn't show up 524 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: and they're kind of like, well, it's just choice for 525 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: is it more like you need to be here? You're 526 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: looking down on them a little. I've been on both 527 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: sides of that. Well, I wasn't here, and guys will 528 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: be strange because we were in a winning mode or 529 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: we were building for a winning mode. So guys, you 530 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: know and CEI strength coach, coach warsick, and he was 531 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: really in control of everything, and a lot of players 532 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: will follow his league, you know, you know, like where 533 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: you been man, which you know they cracking Joel that man, 534 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: what you need to do not to be even a dozen? 535 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Don't us to day two days? You know, they be 536 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: on you, man, and they be giving that in troy Ae, 537 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: we just be we give you that. Look, man, you'd 538 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: be like, wow, I should have been hire man. I'm 539 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: a month later, you know. And then but what I 540 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: started doing was I would go to Florida and work out, 541 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: so they knew you know that wait na wait, Nate, 542 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, oh he had the fat farm. I call 543 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: it personal everybody does have a personal training, but I 544 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: had the fat farm. So when you were there when 545 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: other guys didn't show up, did you kind of like 546 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: did you give that? Like? Because it was always the 547 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: guys that missed were guys that so dedicated to the game. 548 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: Wherever they was, they was working out, you know, you know, yeah, 549 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna be there. Man. Yeah, my guys, I'm 550 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: telling you. Jimmy was Jimmy. Jimmy had you fearful, bro, 551 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: he had you feel for you know, so you worked 552 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: out or you didn't make the team. And all the 553 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: guys he believed that if he drafted the right guys 554 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: with the right attitude, who loved the game, which he 555 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: tried to do most of the time, they were gonna 556 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: be here. You know. You may if you're a great player, 557 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: you may get to go back and finished and getting 558 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: you a degree. But Jimmy old home you had for 559 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: is some of y'all have five to get your degree. 560 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: You can wait you there to pay for it. You 561 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: know where you leave here? How are the how are 562 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: the guys if if somebody's not showing up? Do they 563 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: call the other fellows? Are they just like, nah, let 564 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: him do it. That's the coaches thing in the relationship 565 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: you have with your coach or coach about the players. 566 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: Are they calling the other position guys saying where you 567 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: at here? Yeah? Like you hit the guy up, but 568 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, like you you know, yeah, you know who 569 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: will be here? You know, like if your position groups, 570 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: You're like, I was like, Roy's not showing up. You 571 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like I look around the room, 572 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: like Dez may slide in here one day this week, 573 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: maybe he may run a couple of routes he ain't coming. 574 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, you just knew, you just knew, you knew that, 575 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: And honestly, it's it's it's it's a lot of I 576 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: gotta take care of my own. Yeah, it's a lot 577 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: of I gotta take him because because at the end 578 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: of the day, when you get when you get to 579 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: the live football, once you are in this league and 580 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: you you understand the business side of the league and 581 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: the performance side of the league, you kind of stay 582 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: out of that and some guys are missing for business purposes. 583 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: Some guys are saying, well, I'm not showing up because 584 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: I want to contract, you know. So, so you have 585 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. So now do I say it's bigger, No, bro, 586 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: you ain't showing up to that. You can black, bro, 587 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: don't black get your own like I'm working on getting 588 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: my life changing money. Hopefully you hope that you get this. 589 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of Man, if you understand the 590 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: business now, the point where you kind of get a 591 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: little bit like, hey my guy, let let's come, let's 592 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: try to come on, that is when you get the 593 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: training camp. Ya training camp is when it's like, you know, 594 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I Nate like just getting shaped, like you know, hey, 595 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: hey put that, put that, put that chicken back, bro, 596 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: put it back. You don't need it. Come on, let's go. 597 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 1: Because now that's a fact. Then everybody bottom dollar because 598 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 1: if I don't have my my starting guard, he ain't 599 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: ready to go. Well then as a running back, if 600 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, fat boy, I can't get right because 601 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: you ain't right. Yeah, and Troy, it's like hey, bro, 602 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: because if you go down with injury because you wait, now, 603 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: I gotta put that guy in. Yeah, let's go. Let's 604 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: let you know. So training camps when you kind of 605 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: get those calls, like you know, but you have to 606 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: understand when it comes down to that business part of it. Though, 607 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, man, you used to be so 608 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: I laugh and I know I joke about everything, but 609 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: you know you're getting dogged out because the back then, 610 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: the media were more than allowed and sometime encouraged to 611 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: blast you if you didn't show up to these workouts. 612 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: Hey they were the media they do is nowhere to 613 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: be found. But then you come back in town the 614 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: day before the first mini camp, right, and they started 615 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: union and you run around a round and I'll be 616 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: looking around like, wow, why am I started? 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Welcome back to the s WBC Mortgage Podcast 665 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: studio for the last segment of the show. Drafts coming 666 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: up in two weeks. What is it like right now 667 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: for draft prospects? Are they working out? Are they just 668 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: what are they doing right now? Is they? Are they 669 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: through Linx's question first jets. Are they threw with individual 670 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: workouts just close to the draft or some guys still 671 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: working out now they're still visits going on, not visits 672 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: workouts workouts. Yeah, but when you visit, they work you out. Okay, okay, okay. 673 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: When you when you're going to visit, it's not just 674 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: to sit down talk. They'll still get you out there. 675 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: To do some do some stuff. Now you may say 676 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm not running the forty up, but they might get 677 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: you on the field to do some positions like type stuff. 678 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: But they're working out getting ready for like rookie mini 679 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: camps and stuff. No, you don't know where you're going. 680 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: This is this is your Some guys are still probably 681 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: staying in staying in shape, uh, because you don't want 682 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: to show the rookie money camp out of shape. But 683 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who said, I'm done with 684 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: all of this nonsense. Yeah, I'm gonna sit on I'm 685 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: gonna set the fat part of my butt and chill 686 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: and get ready for draft draft days. You know what shape. 687 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: It happens every year. It happens every year, every single year. 688 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: And you see guys, it will happen here. You see 689 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: guys coming in from a community camp and they'll be 690 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: thrown up on the field and they'll be out of 691 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: shape and they'll be having to do extra running aft 692 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: the practice and coaches say, well, what happened, And they'll say, well, 693 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: for the last once, I got through the combine in 694 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: pro days and I shut it down. And you know, 695 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: you'll be amazed with two weeks can do. My agent 696 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: gave me a couple of dollars. I went to Corbo. 697 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I went to you know, Easter weekend. I got you 698 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: know what, man, you know what? You know what's so 699 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: funny man in the state of Texas. If you ever 700 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: want to make a place seem bad, thanks to Tony 701 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: Romo the word Carbo you know see always yeah I was. 702 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: I went to my agent through a couple of dollars, 703 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: I went to Carboy. It ain't nothing good after almost 704 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: a great place. Bobby Carpenter, you know him getting mentioned. 705 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: Bobby was with there too, just hit about what was there? Yeah, 706 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 1: but he didn't never get he ever got any flat food. 707 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: It was always Tony. Yeah, Tony's fault. So um. The 708 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: Athletics said Cowboys have gotten worse and that it was 709 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: a bad offseason and they need a home run again 710 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: in the draft. What do you guys think? Who Malik someone? 711 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: We lost Milik some here the other day. Right, your 712 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: guy was my guy, and this is what I want 713 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: to ask you. Kurt right quickly said whistles my guy 714 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: and Jesse guy and that was this guy. He sold 715 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: me on your guy. Who have we lost, Kurt? And 716 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: who have we gained because our losses has not been 717 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: covered in my in my estimation, you know, that may 718 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: make us worse. And and well, the losses haven't been 719 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: truly covered. And that's what makes going into the draft, 720 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: because you don't want to go into the draft having 721 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: all of these glaring kneeds, like, yeah, it's already a 722 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: fifty fifty crap shoot for the guys in the draft. 723 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: And the more guys that you kind of need in 724 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: the draft to hit, the less like, the less likely 725 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: that they're going to have a successful year because, yeah, 726 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: your first round pick is supposed to hit, right, that's 727 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be a no brainer. And you know we 728 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: saw last year with Michael Parsons that was a no brainer. 729 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: It hit. Then you start looking to you know, two 730 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: second round pick and and and second through fourth, fifth 731 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: really rounds out your rocks, like like that is your 732 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: that is the meat and potatoes of your rocks. That's 733 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: where the money, like, that's where your your core is 734 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: is at. And so yes, first round picks are that 735 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: for that reason, they're supposed to be able to come 736 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: in Day one started us impactful players, people who's going 737 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: to change the franchise in a way that other guys 738 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: can't the rest of those guys. That's what you need 739 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: to truly hit. And if you're saying that, man, we 740 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: need this, this, this, this, this, this and this, it's 741 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: one thing about right, We're gonna focus on this. You 742 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: don't need, but one thing what you don't need, but 743 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: one out of the first round off whatever you get. No, no, no, no, no, 744 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying we need. You know what, I'm not 745 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: going there. What do we not now? I'm not going 746 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: up because hey, Chris, you weren't here. You weren't here 747 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: last week. But Nate called in and he talked for 748 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: what ten minutes? Not even that, and what what? How 749 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: do you get off the phone? We need we need 750 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: to office a line. No, don't even get me going 751 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: there by we don't. You know. I read something where 752 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: Dave Hellman said, you know, after he apologize, you know, 753 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: if he said his sorrows to the family of the 754 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: Rays family, he said, we don't, we don't need, we don't. 755 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: We got three good corners, we got three decent corners, 756 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: and we can we can fill it in there. We 757 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: we have that places we needed and I know, y'all, man, 758 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: we need some Why we need a WI We need 759 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I'm serious, we need a wide receiver. 760 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: We need a legit, healthy wide receiver to come in 761 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: and compliment until we know what to kill. Who who's 762 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: your third guy? Now? C D Gallup, which doesn't sound 763 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: like you's not gonna be ready? And who have you got? 764 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: Who's after that? So let me actually, but let me 765 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: ask you this question. You said you need you said 766 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: you need you need a number one receiver, because if 767 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: you need a number one receiver, that means you miss 768 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: evaluated with a Mark Cooper. I mean, what what what? 769 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: What what CD Lamb was? If you're telling me that 770 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: we need to get another receiver in here, this is 771 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Jesse as a number one we miss evaluate. 772 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: Who's CD Lamb? If Cede Lamb come in? How many? 773 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: It's like nine routes within the route tree? How many? 774 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? I know it's it's probably more announced 775 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: since this new new world, new age, but yeah, it's 776 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: about nine routes on the route tree. If he can 777 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: run seven of them, the Dow guy, no CD. If 778 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: he can run seven of those routes to perfection, then 779 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm then I'm good. We can we can. We can 780 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: go get just almost a guy, but if he can 781 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: run with three or four of them on this route tree, yeah, 782 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: we better go out and get go out and get 783 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: a bullet all that can help him speed up his process. Yes, sir, see, 784 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: because I'm all about what's what's good for Dak, and 785 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody say, and I don't care 786 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: who running tail that Dak is not a natural not 787 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: yet a natural drop back read it on the run quarterback. 788 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: And so until he come that, you need receivers that 789 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: can run things to perfection. So if that means go 790 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: out and get a number one receiver that can help 791 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: him help CD competition wise perfect his game, yes, sir, Yes, sir, 792 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: surprise you that the business of the NFL is like 793 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: basically nobody's gonna sign any more free agents after the draft, 794 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: right where all these teams like Cowboys still have a 795 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: lot of holes to feel. Like you said, why they 796 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: don't feel that way, Kurt, They don't feel that way. 797 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: They're bargain shoppers. Yeah, they don't feel that way. They 798 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: just assume they'll get that guy after they get him 799 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: now or later. And why wait, you get them as 800 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: closer you get to the draft. As closer you get 801 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 1: the training camp, guy's price go now, because now guys 802 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: want to get on teams and they'll take that one 803 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: year deal. I'll take that one year deal. I'll take 804 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: it for a league minimum. I'll take it for you know, 805 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: a smaller base with a lot of incentives and all 806 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you want to kind of 807 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: keep your market as high as you possibly can earlier 808 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: in this process. But then as it dundles down, it 809 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: gets closer and closer and closer to the season. And 810 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: the thing about veterans. The thing about veterans, the difference 811 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: is then certain players, once you get to a certain 812 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: level of years in the league, if you're on that 813 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: roster week one, no matter what happens after that, you 814 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: get that money. So if you if you're on if 815 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: you're a four year, if you're on your fourth year, 816 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 1: you're a four year guy once you sign, if you're 817 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: on that team active roster week one, that's why you'll 818 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: see a lot of guys get cut and get signed 819 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: week two, because if you're in that active roster week one, 820 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: whatever that base salary is for you that year is guaranteed. 821 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: The positive then obviously is the money saved, but isn't 822 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: the negative? Then you're going into the draft with more 823 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: questions normally. Have you know what I mean? Yes? Yes, 824 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: what do you think the Cowboys need? See? We know 825 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: we need they need a offensive linement. We know they 826 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: need a wide receiver. I don't need a because A 827 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: means one. They need to h to what offensive linement? 828 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: At least they need a offensive linement and they need 829 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: defensive to sign defensive free agent officive alignment. That's so 830 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: no you hey, you're talking about draft a right, Okay, okay? 831 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: So you need a wide receiver? A repeat, we need 832 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: a wide receiver because as much as I love Ceedee 833 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: Lambing and the explosive things that he can do, is 834 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: he gonna be that complete route runner that can get 835 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: you seven or those routes perfect? So that so that 836 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: when when when our quarterback need that guy, is he 837 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: that guy? Because I don't care what about Gallup is 838 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be Gallop for for for for a minute, 839 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: not coming off the injury that he's coming off of. 840 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: Who is the third wide receiver? I think that I 841 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: think that's what the count that there was James Washington 842 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: that guy. But he's never been that guy. He's never 843 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: been that guy in the system stopped him. He was 844 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh, right, Pittsburgh used to be it still is 845 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You they developed, guys. What has stopped him 846 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: from being that guy in Pittsburgh? Talent? You just don't 847 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: have the talent to be the game even tell you 848 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: opportunity maybe, But man, I'm gonna tell you something. We 849 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: I know the coach, we know the organization. Now you 850 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: get every come on, man, that's one that's one team. 851 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: If they draft you, they're gonna give you every opportunity. 852 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: Did they draft him they get Yeah, you mean no 853 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: opportunity in the sixty he's been in five years, four years, 854 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: five years. I'm just saying what he We don't need. 855 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't need volume, guys. And that's the problem with 856 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now. They've run volume plays, but their percentages 857 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: of success is not high in those volume They run 858 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: seventy six, seventy sixty, sixty eight, seventy three plays, twenty 859 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: five of them is weak. So gotta get better, all right, 860 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: we gotta get better. We gotta get off. Well, did 861 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: you want to know who we've Yes, sir, who have 862 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: we gained? And who have we lost game? James Washington, 863 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler, Well you heard what Jesse's you said? Ryan 864 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: nas Like, who is that? He's a fullback. It's a fullback. Gun. 865 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 1: We've played that game every year and then the fullback 866 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: never make it to the season. Friends, we've lost. Um. 867 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory not good. Keana Neil not good. Lea Turner 868 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: not good. Connor Williams, No, it's okay. Cedric Wilson not good? 869 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: What's wrong? Well? You saw just no. The reason let 870 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: me say this right here, let me sit No. The 871 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: reason I say not good, not good for Connor because 872 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: we did not help this kid be as good as 873 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: he could be. We did not help this kid, you know. 874 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: We we let him just get bulldozed by running eight 875 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: hundred passing plays. Nah, not good, Connor. Glad you got 876 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: out of here. M Yeah, all right. We need UH 877 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: two and UH to wide receivers. So that's Nate Wish 878 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: saying again to offensive and H to wide Receivers's not 879 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: even counting defensive line. No, no, no, no, I'm not 880 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: muss with the defensive mind until we get the training count. 881 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: But the offense and wide receiver we need a wide receiver. 882 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: Y'all y'all laughing at me, Okay, and then then okay, 883 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen with Kelvin. You're gonna keep him. You 884 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna cut them in the corner. We'll find the corner. 885 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: We'll find the corner. We can't cover every basis. This 886 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: is why you gotta be able to keep some guys 887 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: around so you don't have to be able to have 888 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: to go into the drive and free agency needing a 889 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: plutthor positions field. If you had to pick Kurt, where 890 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: would you go for? Offensive line? Offensive lineman? Round two 891 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: through six? Still two through five? I don't want the 892 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Waste of time down two through five. Yeah, 893 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: we got four peaks in four. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, 894 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: who are you going for at this date? I know 895 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: you can change and that's u A h h h 896 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: hey for real, Not in the first round, not me? 897 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: Offensive lineman? Brother, second round? Nope, how about you going 898 00:51:53,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: for you? Uh help anybody? Literally, league, I mean, only 899 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: only place I probably wouldn't spend the first round pick. 900 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Look at this right here, maybe linebacker, pop it up? 901 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: Pop it up? This as much y'all need to go 902 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: to Yeah, plug the magazine real quick. Yeah, I get 903 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys Star magazine. Guys, Yeah, scouting reports. Need 904 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: to down Dallas Cowboys dot com slash star for info. 905 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: There you go. Chris sent me a tweet. Don't get 906 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: a book a book. Get a book a book, but 907 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: two copies book. Get to hook fightings, baby, I need 908 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: to get down. Chris sent me a tweet. Oscar Dale 909 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: Lajoya tweeted out, imagine if Al Hammond lets Errol Spence 910 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: Junior fight Virgil Ortiz and I staged at Dallas Cowboys 911 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: Stadium or Vegas at Allegiant Stadium and Errol Spence quote 912 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: tweeted said, imagine if I said no, I only have 913 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: interest in one and he's not with you. So Jesse, 914 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: you went to the fight, you big fight guy. You 915 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: know Jeff good seat. Okay, So let me say this. 916 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that if he does get a 917 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: fight with with Golden Boy production, I got to hook 918 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: up at Golden Wall, I would have like ring side seats, 919 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: so I would be sitting up there with you know, 920 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: with the big dogs. You want ringside Saturday night. No, 921 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Like ringside is not really good seats. 922 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 1: Like when you think about like people want, people would 923 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: like to say that ringside because of the festivities in 924 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: the publicity, and it's fun. It's fun because you sell. 925 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: That's those aren't great seats. It's like front row at 926 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: a football game. It's not the best vantage point. It's 927 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: not really And so being that I know up five 928 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: rolls up, what's the best in the box? You got? 929 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be above the ring. So knowing so knowing 930 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: that I knew where to like knowing this stadium, I 931 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: know where to sit. So you sit at the one 932 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: hundred level center center field, center field and look right 933 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: like you like you literally look into the into that. 934 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: So that's why I was sitting in section like one, one, nine, 935 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: one eleven something like that. So it's like fifty yard 936 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: line looking at the ring at a level where I'm 937 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: not having to fight with people like looking up at 938 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: the ring, you know, or like I'm right up on 939 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: you really can't see, yeah, but got people passing by you. Yeah, yeah, 940 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: you're a little further away because it's the way the 941 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: stadium is set up. They have those floor seats there. 942 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: But it's it's a great seats. You sit right there. 943 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: The ring is here, and then the video boards there 944 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: if you ever need which it's hard to not watch 945 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: that video board. No, but it was. It was great 946 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: and I got a lesson. I got a lesson in 947 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: Dallas culture at the game. I had no clue. So 948 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 1: as Aero Spence is coming out hometown kid. Uh, most 949 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: time people come out, they have, you know, music coming out. Well, 950 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: he had a He had a rapper bring him out 951 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: named Big Tuck and the song was called south Side 952 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: south Side the Realists. I didn't know who this guy was, 953 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,720 Speaker 1: never heard this song before, but when this music started, 954 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: I thought the roof was really you come off this place. 955 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: Everybody that was from Dallas, the DFW area. I mean 956 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: they did, man, Chris, you got it. How did it 957 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: go play? I don't right, yeah, I don't thay that. 958 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't even kind of the word. It just starts 959 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: out with like saying like the south side of the Realist. 960 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: Like then the next the next line of the song 961 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: drug dealer killers. Okay, we can keep that gangster. So 962 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: I tweeted, I was like I was last night, years 963 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: old when I found out who Big Tuck was and 964 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: boarded my mention and I said, full disposure. I'm not 965 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: from Texas going to range in New Jersey, like, but 966 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: I said, even it was the lady that was sitting 967 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: like kind of caddy corner in front of me. She 968 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: was older than me, and she got up and was 969 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: like south side of the rill. I was like, and everybody, 970 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: let me know, like that is a staple that that 971 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: whole crew, big Tuck and he had a record label. 972 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: It was like the first kind of he was like 973 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: really one of the first Dallas rappers organizations that kind 974 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: of really put Dallas on the map back in the 975 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: early late nineties early two thousands. But boys, did I 976 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: get a I get a lesson in culture and music 977 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: from the Dallas Dallas sights over that. But the fight 978 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: was amazing. A little one of the forty thousand people, 979 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 1: Aaron went to work, He went to work and he 980 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean he outside of the one slip up that 981 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: he had. And so as he was fighting, his mouthpiece 982 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: came out and he said he thought he heard the 983 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: ref say stop let his guard. Dad. He let his 984 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: guard down, and he broke the cardinal rules you here 985 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: at every single fight, protect yourself at all times. He 986 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,280 Speaker 1: thought he heard the ref say stop, he stopped dropped 987 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: his guard. Ugas didn't stop popping twice boo boop. But 988 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 1: that was kind of the death blow for Hugs because 989 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: I think that pissed him off. I think that pissed 990 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: him off. And then for the next he was already 991 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: beating him up at that point. That really pissed him off. 992 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: And like for like the next two or three rounds, 993 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: he just he just beat up on him to where 994 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: his eye they had stopped the fight. Later on he 995 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: found out that he broke his orbit the boat, So like, 996 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm assume that's the eye socket part he broke that 997 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: his eye was closed and the rest of him after that, Yeah, 998 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: it was It was ahead of these dudes man to 999 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: do that. They really wanted him to fight. Is doing 1000 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. Sharon's Crawford. Yeah, he should arrest of 1001 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: the guys they're beating up on the mane. That'll be 1002 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: a huge fight. But that's the biggest part about We're 1003 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: not a boxing show. But that's the biggest part about 1004 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: boxing is that they're under these managements Bob Aaron oscar 1005 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: Deal La Joya, Big Weather Promotions. That's why everybody got 1006 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: pissed off and stopped watching boxing, right, it doesn't unified. 1007 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: And this is how, this is how your boy, the 1008 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: Paul Brothers have come in and been able to steal 1009 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm meaning millions of dollars because while they're not giving 1010 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: you the fight that you want, they're giving at entertainment. 1011 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: So people been wanting this Aerospins to a Buck Crawford 1012 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: fight for for years, but because of the management that 1013 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: they're under, it'll never happen. They keep fighting these cans, 1014 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, and they're making money and they're winning and 1015 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But like the boxing worlds, 1016 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: like you know what, say, y'all don't want to fight, 1017 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: We'll go watch something else. We'll go watch UFC has 1018 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: helped the USC rise. We'll go watch other sports, and 1019 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: we'll go watch the Paul brothers, not Nate, Nate Robinson 1020 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: out and stuff like that. I even heard that the 1021 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: Paul brothers offered they got told no, but then offered 1022 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: again Mike Tyson thirty million dollars to fight. That tells 1023 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: you the kind of money that they're bringing in. If 1024 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: you can pay Mike Tyson thirty million dollars to come 1025 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: in and fight an exhibition. Yeah, the days of the 1026 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: super Fighter gone gone sad. You know when you was 1027 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: coming up, guy, you know you had you had, you 1028 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: had haggling and Hearns and all that. It was you 1029 00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: know home and now Jerry Cooney and and uh Robert Man. 1030 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: Now you gotta just you gotta watch the superstars beat 1031 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: up on guys like chumps, chumps that could whoop anybody 1032 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: nine the general. So like I was having this combination 1033 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: and know we gotta go. But like when you talk 1034 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: about the level of greatness, you talk about a guy 1035 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: like Floyd Mayweather, right, and you watch a Floyd Mayweather 1036 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: fight and how he takes someone who is a professional, 1037 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: This is what this person has done his entire life, 1038 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: and it's the best at it and make him look pedestrians. 1039 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: You know how, you know how great that you have 1040 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: to be to do that, to take another professional and 1041 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: make him look like something that you would not. You 1042 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm just at Floyd, is this dude, is 1043 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean bringing the heat and Floyd just let him 1044 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: just how you be so quick that put your head 1045 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: up later right here it is, yeah, I'm like, and 1046 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: he made it look so simple. I stopped watching. I'm like, 1047 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: you know what made it looked too easy. Yeah all right, Kurt, 1048 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: good seeing you man. Good at the band back together, Jesse, 1049 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: good seeing you man. What did I say A offensive 1050 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: lineman too? I said a uh say hey, uh uh? 1051 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Let you you let your west Us out? Yeah. I 1052 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: wasn't that deep. I wasn't that country. Thanks for bringing it, Nate, 1053 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: it's good having you back. Thanks for keeping live streams up. 1054 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back next Monday. We'll bring back next morning 1055 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: Draft week or lawyer talking Draft Week, next week, the 1056 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: next week show. It'll be help. Jones has helped you 1057 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: all players. I'll hang with the boys. Bye bye. This 1058 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1059 01:00:50,680 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. H